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1174882008 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p54b4e1ed.dip.t-dialin.net
1174885371 J * _mcp ~hightower@wolk-project.de
1174885658 J * fosco ~fosco@konoha.devnullteam.org
1174885661 J * click_ click@ti511110a080-4806.bb.online.no
1174885690 J * eyck_ ~eyck@nat.nowanet.pl
1174885700 Q * ||Cobra|| charon.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1174885700 Q * meebey charon.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1174885700 Q * duckx charon.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1174885700 Q * glutoman charon.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1174885700 Q * Hunger charon.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1174885700 Q * fosco_ charon.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1174885700 Q * eyck charon.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1174885700 Q * mcp charon.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1174885700 Q * click charon.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1174885700 Q * nox charon.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1174885703 J * nox ~nox@static.88-198-17-175.clients.your-server.de
1174885769 J * Hunger Hunger.hu@213.163.11.138
1174886207 J * glut glut@no.suid.pl
1174886219 Q * bronson Read error: Operation timed out
1174886331 J * ||Cobra|| ~cob@pc-csa01.science.uva.nl
1174886358 J * duckx ~Duck@tox.dyndns.org
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1174887745 Q * cdrx 
1174889407 N * DoberMann_ DoberMann
1174890848 J * sharkjaw ~gab@158.36.45.236
1174892562 N * _mcp mcp
1174892658 N * DoberMann DoberMann[PullA]
1174893345 J * cdrx ~legoater@blueice4n2.uk.ibm.com
1174895176 N * DoberMann[PullA] DoberMann
1174897857 J * chand ~chand@212.99.51.254
1174898163 J * FireEgl ~FireEgl@2001:5c0:84dc:1:211:9ff:feca:b042
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1174900466 J * meandtheshel1 ~markus@85-124-232-180.work.xdsl-line.inode.at
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1174901319 M * derjohn Bertl_zZ, you pinged /me !?
1174901554 J * dna ~naucki@p54bce0ef.dip.t-dialin.net
1174901588 M * daniel_hozac derjohn: about the NB_IPV4ROOT patch.
1174901628 M * derjohn daniel_hozac, hm? do you know more? I dont get it ...
1174901685 M * derjohn The last kernel i used with that is a 2.1.1.3 ... But /me is nor sure, if the particulat guest still has > 16 IP ...
1174901697 M * derjohn *particular
1174901711 M * derjohn but I can look up, what I have
1174903026 J * pagano ~pagano@131.154.5.37
1174903030 M * pagano hi all
1174903595 J * ema ~ema@rtfm.galliera.it
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1174903977 J * arachnist arachnist@088156185052.who.vectranet.pl
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1174905499 Q * cdrx 
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1174905542 J * lyli1 ~eric@dynamic-acs-24-154-33-9.zoominternet.net
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1174905888 M * daniel_hozac derjohn: i think he was just looking for a URL.
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1174910234 J * matti matti@acrux.romke.net
1174910257 N * matti Guest67
1174910334 N * Guest67 matti
1174910429 J * wenchien ~wenchien@59-105-176-11.adsl.static.seed.net.tw
1174910560 J * click click@ti511110a080-4806.bb.online.no
1174910634 J * Loki|muh loki@satanix.de
1174910758 J * waldi ~waldi@bblank.thinkmo.de
1174910799 J * softi42 ~softi@p549d6d66.dip.t-dialin.net
1174910940 J * ray6 ~ray@vh5.gcsc2.ray.net
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1174911119 J * yarihm ~yarihm@whitehead2.nine.ch
1174911238 J * m`m`h ~simba@deb30.mgts.by
1174911446 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1174911452 M * Bertl morning folks!
1174911477 M * pagano hi bert :)
1174911516 M * harry aloha!
1174911708 M * daniel_hozac morning Bertl!
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1174912887 J * DavidS ~david@vpn.uni-ak.ac.at
1174913159 J * David1 ~david@vpn.uni-ak.ac.at
1174913162 Q * David1 
1174913166 Q * DavidS 
1174913909 J * DavidS ~david@vpn.uni-ak.ac.at
1174914052 J * DreamerC ~dreamerc@125-225-115-111.dynamic.hinet.net
1174914069 M * pagano Bertl, the question of the day: how to install X inside a vserver? I tryed just installing kde-base, but it seems not enough
1174914087 M * sid3windr not really a vserver issue ;)
1174914095 M * sid3windr you need x base as well
1174914109 M * pagano sure, I have it
1174914116 M * sid3windr ah
1174914122 M * sid3windr xbase-clients - X Window System client utility transitional package
1174914124 M * sid3windr this one on debian
1174914131 M * sid3windr and xserver of course
1174914148 M * sid3windr for the rest I'm not sure, this suffices to start x apps remotely; for an actual X I've never done it
1174914200 Q * yarihm Quit: Leaving
1174914204 M * pagano I'm already able to startx x apps and see them with X11 forward
1174914215 M * Bertl pagano: what part of X do you intend to run inside a guest?
1174914268 M * pagano a full X istance, kde or gnome
1174914299 M * Bertl client or server? what is the purpose?
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1174914305 J * phedny_ ~mark@phedny.vps.van-cuijk.nl
1174914431 J * yarihm ~yarihm@whitehead2.nine.ch
1174914508 M * pagano a server, to have the X environment... not for a specific purpose
1174914540 M * pagano if it's complicated I will search a purpose before :)
1174914750 M * Bertl no, for me the question is more: what parts you really want/need
1174914766 M * Bertl how do you use the 'X environment'?
1174914796 M * Bertl do you have a separate machine with an X server running and conenct to that guest somehow?
1174914819 M * Bertl or do you run Linux-VServer on your desktop machine and the X server is running inside?
1174914846 M * Bertl or do you plan/want to use the 'X environment' from a non X machine?
1174915422 J * DreamerC_ ~dreamerc@125-225-113-207.dynamic.hinet.net
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1174915570 J * Guy- qzIQ0x2eWw@chardonnay.math.bme.hu
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1174916249 J * marcfiu ~mef@aegis.CS.Princeton.EDU
1174916260 M * marcfiu hello vsWorld.
1174916264 M * Bertl hey marcfiu!
1174916264 M * marcfiu Hi Bertl
1174916285 M * marcfiu I can't believe its April this coming weekend... time flies.
1174916302 M * Bertl yep, indeed
1174916538 J * DreamerC ~dreamerc@125-225-113-207.dynamic.hinet.net
1174916928 M * matti Morning B.
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1174917644 M * Bertl morning matti!
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1174918919 J * AndrewLee ~andrew@flat.iis.sinica.edu.tw
1174919630 M * matti :)
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1174922362 P * marcfiu 
1174923569 J * pmenier ~pme@LNeuilly-152-22-72-5.w193-251.abo.wanadoo.fr
1174923601 J * cryptronic ice@p54a3b81b.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
1174923604 M * cryptronic hi all
1174923632 M * cryptronic are there any bugs known concerning kernel 2.6.20.3 vserver 2.2 rc19 and a amd64 arch?
1174923653 M * pmenier hello all
1174924010 N * yangx yangvnc
1174924230 M * pmenier bertl : always up for pmenier... seems to be good.. but as it waits several days before crashing with previous patch..wait and see 
1174924272 M * Bertl pmenier: okay, tx!
1174924389 J * stefani ~stefani@flute.radonc.washington.edu
1174924453 M * cryptronic Bertl: are there any bugs known concerning kernel 2.6.20.3 vserver 2.2 rc19 and a amd64 arch?
1174924475 M * Bertl yes, that is why we have 2.6.20.4 and rc20 :)
1174924494 M * cryptronic ok i upgraded to it after last kernel crash ;)
1174924725 M * Bertl cryptronic: the devinfo issue?
1174924744 M * cryptronic i don't know but server was suddenly gone
1174924769 M * Bertl no oops, no trace?
1174924769 M * cryptronic with 2.6.20.1 rc17 i got a segfault 0000 once
1174924780 M * Bertl do you have that one somewhere?
1174924793 M * cryptronic i only get one line to ssh
1174924845 M * Bertl well, we consider it fixed with rc20, but we have no proof yet
1174924885 M * cryptronic today i got one trace but this is in firm i can send it to you tomorrow morning
1174924895 M * cryptronic i got a segfault calling vtop
1174924902 M * Bertl with rc20?
1174924906 M * cryptronic no with rc19
1174924921 M * Bertl okay, do you remember how it looked like?
1174924936 M * Bertl maybe like one of those: http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/BUGHUNT/bertl-0002/
1174924984 M * cryptronic looked like oops.txt
1174924994 M * cryptronic but i will send it to you tomorrow morning!
1174924999 M * Bertl okay
1174925101 M * cryptronic i thought about sending it to you but after that i saw rc20 and I upgraded.
1174925111 M * cryptronic but i have the trace
1174925223 M * cryptronic for all who are interested in the new version of openvcp: http://demo.cryptronic.de/openvcp/auth
1174925337 M * Bertl ah, so openvcp is still alive, great!
1174925435 M * Bertl cryptronic: one nitpick, if linux vservers refers to Linux-VServer I would prefer the proper capitalization (and maybe a link to the project?)
1174925535 M * cryptronic ok i'll change that also tomorrow morning any I think we can give you the link ;)
1174925562 M * Bertl trying to start vserver0 gives me 'failed'
1174925571 M * Bertl link is http://linux-vserver.org
1174925621 M * Bertl for vserver1 it works fine
1174925648 M * Bertl a 'back' link would be nice, to return from any option to the overview
1174925727 M * cryptronic i have the overview link in the left nav bar, but your right a back button woudn't hurt
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1174925811 M * Bertl cryptronic: rest looks quite nice ...
1174925867 M * cryptronic thanks :)
1174926004 M * cryptronic is there a possibilty to kill modprobe?
1174926027 Q * AndrewLee Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1174926181 M * cryptronic because modprobe is eating 100% cpu
1174926398 J * AndrewLee ~andrew@flat.iis.sinica.edu.tw
1174926517 J * bonbons ~bonbons@83.222.39.201
1174926524 M * Bertl cryptronic: hmm, a broken module dependancy
1174926533 M * Bertl it might be possible to kill -9 it
1174926553 M * cryptronic no :(
1174926751 M * cryptronic i'll downgrade to 2.6.18 this kernel run's stable ;) 2.6.20 is to hot for me
1174926771 M * daniel_hozac no 2.2 there though...
1174926771 M * Bertl check dmesg for an oops
1174926785 M * cryptronic dmesg doens't show anything
1174926796 M * cryptronic anything special
1174926830 M * Bertl interesting ...
1174926849 M * daniel_hozac what module did you try to probe?
1174926880 M * cryptronic the silly thing i doesn't try loading a moduöe
1174926884 M * cryptronic *module
1174926895 M * daniel_hozac something is.
1174926946 M * Bertl yes, module loading can be triggered from many at first unrelated places
1174927002 M * Bertl okay, off for now ... back in a few hours ...
1174927007 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
1174927008 M * cryptronic ok
1174927011 M * cryptronic thanks for help
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1174928925 J * DavidS ~david@217.19.46.18
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1174929456 J * neuralis ~krstic@solarsail.hcs.harvard.edu
1174929818 M * bXi are there known problems with iptablees  on vserver 2.0.2.1 ?
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1174930113 J * nou Chaton@causse.larzac.fr.eu.org
1174930406 J * lilalinux ~plasma@dslb-084-058-217-145.pools.arcor-ip.net
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1174930563 M * Guy- bXi: it should work fine on the host
1174930573 M * Guy- bXi: but you can't use it inside guests
1174930935 J * s0undt3ch ~s0undt3ch@80.69.34.154
1174930957 J * marcfiu ~mef@aegis.CS.Princeton.EDU
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1174931210 M * er hi all
1174931222 M * daniel_hozac hello
1174931333 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1174931338 M * Bertl back now ...
1174931349 M * er wb Bertl 
1174931396 M * Bertl tx!
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1174933105 J * transacid ~transacid@transacid.de
1174933185 J * blizz ~blizz@evilhackerdu.de
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1174934396 J * michal` ~michal@www.rsbac.org
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1174935652 J * boci^ ~boci@pool-1650.adsl.interware.hu
1174936724 J * ard ~ard@goatse.kwaak.net
1174939552 M * sannes hm, got an oops now, something with tty .. is that fixed ?
1174939557 M * sannes in rc20 ?
1174939561 Q * Johnnie Remote host closed the connection
1174939567 M * Bertl it is supposed to be fixed in rc20
1174939585 M * Bertl but as we could not recreate the issue, we do not know
1174939587 J * Johnnie ~jdlewis@216.98.130.76
1174939637 M * sannes ah, then'll recompile with rc20, do you have a delta that I can apply?
1174939647 M * Bertl from?
1174939665 M * sannes rc19
1174939684 M * Bertl 2.6.20 or 2.6.19?
1174939689 M * sannes want the oops or? 2.6.20
1174939770 M * Bertl yep, please
1174939790 M * Bertl no, there is no delta as the kernel had an upgrade from 2.6.20.3 to 2.6.20.4 too
1174939798 M * Bertl and you actually want rc21
1174939814 T * Bertl http://linux-vserver.org/ | latest stable 2.0.2.1, 2.0.3-rc2, 2.2.0-rc21, devel 2.3.0.11, stable+grsec 2.0.2.1, 2.2.0-rc20 | util-vserver-0.30.212 | libvserver-1.0.2 & vserver-utils-1.0.3 | He who asks a question is a fool for a minute; he who doesn't ask is a fool for a lifetime -- share the gained knowledge on the Wiki, and we'll forget about the minute ;)
1174939894 M * sannes ah, ok, just going to reboot .. heh
1174940111 M * sannes http://paste.linux-vserver.org/1361 oops
1174940133 M * Bertl ah, yes, matches ...
1174940146 M * Bertl please let us know if rc21 solves that
1174940159 Q * Wonka Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1174940188 M * sannes where can I download rc21 ?
1174940210 M * Bertl http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/patch-2.6.20.4-vs2.2.0-rc21.diff
1174940344 J * slack101 ~root@cpe-71-65-58-25.insight.res.rr.com
1174940362 M * Bertl welcome slack101!
1174940380 M * slack101 grrrrrrrrr
1174940387 M * slack101 *bad* news
1174940411 M * slack101 debian aint doing the trick
1174940450 M * slack101 spent 4 days making it how i want too
1174940463 M * slack101 but its givig me problems left and right
1174940480 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving
1174940523 M * slack101 think i might have to install gentoo hmmmmm
1174940546 M * Hollow damn it.. i added rc20 a few hours ago
1174940553 M * Hollow :)
1174940573 M * sannes :)
1174940603 M * slack101 i got like 3 more days to get this thing fullly functional too
1174940608 M * sannes Bertl: well, I won't know until it doesn't crash .. heh
1174940641 M * Bertl sannes: so keep watching it closely :)
1174940667 M * Bertl has anybody worked with php-rrdtool here?
1174940692 Q * infowolfe Read error: Connection reset by peer
1174940755 M * sannes Bertl: well, had been running it for a couple of days, but there was alot of i/o going on whet I vserver-stat which well ended in the oops heh .. 
1174940779 M * Bertl I have a problem, it doesn't give me an error, but it doesn't create a graph either
1174940801 M * Bertl any ideas how to debug it?
1174941040 J * Infernal ~Infernal@60-144.dial.nortenet.pt
1174941049 M * Bertl welcome Infernal!
1174941052 M * Infernal hi
1174941058 M * Infernal tnks
1174941092 Q * Infernal 
1174941126 M * sannes Bertl : yip .. is that a cyclic graph? 
1174941142 M * slack101 anyone know where i can get the most uptodate gentoo stage 4 tarballl from ?
1174941149 M * bXi stage 4 O-o
1174941161 M * Bertl sannes: hmm, probably ...
1174941167 M * slack101 bXi: huh ?
1174941181 M * bXi since when is there a stage 4
1174941267 M * slack101 just reading documentation
1174941294 M * slack101  -t /path/to/stage4-<arch>-<version>.tar.bz2
1174941313 M * Hollow slack101: just updated :)
1174941322 M * slack101 huh?
1174941352 M * Hollow i updated the documentation, uploaded new stages and created a howto for custom stage4
1174941362 M * slack101 oh?
1174941364 M * slack101 link?
1174941369 M * slack101 http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/vps/vserver-howto.xml
1174941370 M * slack101 ?
1174941376 M * Hollow http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/vps/
1174941401 M * Hollow yeah.. the vserver howto was updated
1174941420 M * Hollow to reflect recent changes regarding the switch to baselayout-1.13
1174941433 M * slack101 o?
1174941440 M * Hollow the new stages already contain baselayout-1.13.0_alpha12
1174941448 M * slack101 well where do i get these stage 4 tarballs from ? 
1174941453 M * slack101 or do i gotta make it ?
1174941460 M * Hollow http://people.linux-vserver.org/~hollow/stages/
1174941468 M * Hollow you _can_ make your own stage4
1174941499 M * Hollow but i uploaded a basic stage4 with syslog-ng and vixie-cron
1174941519 M * Hollow (which is good for the old new gentoo init style)
1174941593 M * slack101 any reasons to make it ?
1174941612 M * Hollow yeah, i even mentioned them in the updated howto :)
1174941632 M * slack101 should i just use a premade?
1174941638 M * slack101 any real reasons to make ?
1174941648 M * Hollow ah, you mean to build custom stage4
1174941659 M * slack101 any reason to do that ?
1174941695 M * Hollow well, if things worked for you until now, you can still use stage3 or the basic stage4.. but if you setup many vservers, creating your own stages maybe better
1174941729 M * slack101 im not to familiar with gentoo .......is stage 3 already compiled ?
1174941734 M * doener Bertl: any news on the tty stuff?
1174941760 M * Hollow yeah, stage3 is a complete system, but i has no services installed
1174941777 M * Hollow therefore the gentoo init style will not work out of the box with a stage3
1174941808 M * Hollow so the basic stage4 contains syslog-ng and vixie-cron already in the default runlevel
1174941894 M * slack101 gentoo init style ?
1174941909 M * Hollow yeah, it was reimplemented in 0.30.212
1174941914 M * slack101 i seee
1174941915 M * Hollow it is the same as sysv for gentoo
1174941923 M * slack101 ok so what do you suggest me to do :D
1174941942 M * Hollow use a stage4 with gentoo init style
1174941954 M * Hollow probably best to follow the howto :)
1174941961 M * slack101 yea .....will do :P
1174941968 M * slack101 i have been reading so much my eyes hurt
1174941975 M * slack101 i really dont like debian
1174941991 M * Hollow there may still be some cosmetic bugs durong start/stop, they will be fixed really soon however
1174942226 M * cryptronic Bertl, is the php rrdtool still interesting for you?
1174942439 Q * cryptronic Remote host closed the connection
1174942439 M * Bertl cryptronic: thanks to the help on the rrdtool channel, I figured my error
1174942452 M * Bertl too late :/
1174942865 J * infowolfe ~infowolfe@c-67-164-195-129.hsd1.ut.comcast.net
1174943818 M * slack101 Hollow: i still cant find where to download the premade stage 4 lol .....i keep reading but i dont see it ........maybe im jus overlooking something
1174943841 M * Hollow slack101: which arch?
1174943851 M * slack101 i686
1174943858 M * Hollow http://people.linux-vserver.org/~hollow/stages/stage4-i686-20070321.tar.bz2
1174944207 M * slack101 man its hot out
1174944218 M * Hollow indeed
1174944294 M * slack101 Hollow: where you located?
1174944306 M * Hollow berlin
1174944319 M * slack101 germany ey
1174944323 Q * dna_ Read error: Connection reset by peer
1174944339 M * slack101 never been there
1174944339 J * ema ~ema@rtfm.galliera.it
1174944348 M * Bertl wb ema!
1174944360 M * slack101 dont leave miami to much anymore
1174944388 M * ema hi :)
1174944401 M * Hollow slack101: home sweet home, eh? ;)
1174944440 M * slack101 Hollow: well......i useed to travel alot ......and i still do i was just in brazil i have an apartment down there, but i got a girl friend 
1174944456 M * Hollow ah, here we go
1174944457 M * Hollow :P
1174944479 M * slack101 and she deosnt want to go anywhere but miami and cuba 
1174944578 M * slack101 and im not exactly a fan of cuba either 
1174944588 M * Hollow heh
1174944615 M * slack101 Hollow: you like it ? :)
1174944625 M * Hollow never been there
1174944638 M * slack101 not much to see
1174944652 M * Hollow is mari johanna legal in cuba? ;)
1174944664 M * slack101 mari johanna ?
1174944706 M * slack101 and not much is legal there ......no taking pictures, saying religion , none of that
1174944723 M * Hollow then i probably wouldnÄt like it ;)
1174944738 M * slack101 its still communist
1174944746 M * Hollow yeah, i know
1174944753 M * slack101 she goes there for family
1174944785 M * slack101 which btw the people are lovely and love america and europe
1174944799 M * slack101 governments are good at creating problems for themselves
1174944901 M * slack101 Hollow: but if you are ever in the far west be sure to check out miami :P
1174945092 P * stefani I'm Parting (the water)
1174945432 Q * meandtheshel1 Quit: Leaving.
1174945648 J * Aiken ~james@ppp250-73.lns2.bne4.internode.on.net
1174945671 Q * DavidS Quit: Leaving.
1174945791 M * slack101 You have to install a service (e.g. syslog-ng) and add it to the
1174945791 M * slack101 !!! default runlevel before you start the guest the first time!
1174945791 M * slack101 !!! Otherwise the guest will die as soon as it has finished booting.
1174945794 M * slack101 oops
1174945795 M * slack101 sorry
1174945810 M * slack101 Hollow: do i have to do that or the one i downloaded ..........does it come with it ?
1174945923 Q * Johnnie Remote host closed the connection
1174945949 J * Johnnie ~jdlewis@noc-noc.org
1174946224 Q * infowolfe Read error: No route to host
1174946347 M * slack101 are things not allowed to be read from the /proc
1174946400 M * Hollow slack101: everything is ok if you use stage4
1174946432 M * Hollow did you run vprocunhide?
1174946599 M * slack101 i used the thing you sent me 
1174946602 M * slack101 and i got 
1174946604 M * slack101 Error opening file /proc/kmsg for reading (Operation not permitted)
1174946605 M * slack101 Error initializing configuration, exiting.
1174946652 M * slack101 prolly should edit the config
1174946657 M * Hollow the /proc/kmsg errir is ok, just ignore it
1174946666 M * Hollow never saw the latter
1174946688 M * slack101 * Failed to start syslog-ng                                                       [ !! ]
1174946688 M * slack101  * ERROR:  syslog-ng failed to start
1174946723 M * Hollow ah
1174946725 M * Hollow i know
1174946740 M * slack101 i kinda need this started :)
1174946752 M * Hollow but good point
1174946773 M * slack101 everything else is fine
1174946777 M * Hollow the required changes are in util-vserver-0.30.213-rc5
1174946793 M * Hollow daniel_hozac: ping?
1174946807 M * slack101 Hollow: what does that mean for me :P
1174946835 M * slack101 Hollow: someone told me to just comment the lines out in the config
1174946883 M * Hollow no, get initpre and initpost from http://svn.linux-vserver.org/projects/util-vserver/browser/trunk/distrib/gentoo and copy them into /usr/lib/util-vserver/distributions/gentoo/
1174947004 Q * ema Quit: leaving
1174947009 M * slack101 Hollow: of which gues ot host ?
1174947012 M * slack101 i assume guest
1174947098 M * slack101 and btw i dont have util-vserver directory
1174947236 J * infowolfe ~infowolfe@c-67-164-195-129.hsd1.ut.comcast.net
1174947500 M * Hollow slack101: on the host
1174947904 Q * Johnnie Remote host closed the connection
1174948087 M * slack101 Hollow: i replaced the other ones that were there .............problem is still there
1174948109 M * slack101 failed to start syslog
1174948155 J * Johnnie ~jdlewis@noc-noc.org
1174948177 M * slack101 Hollow: maybe do that the guys in the gentoo channel and just comment it out ?
1174948242 M * slack101 Hollow: also whats all up on here ........i noticed postfix and lighttpd is installed also
1174949174 N * DoberMann DoberMann[ZZZzzz]
1174949614 M * slack101 Hollow: i keep reading stuff, cant seem to figure out why its saying this, but its a problem :D
1174950162 M * jkl slack101: you need to change your /etc/syslog-ng/syslog-ng.conf file in your vserver
1174950183 M * slack101 jkl: what exactly do i need to change ?
1174950189 M * jkl slack101: and remove /proc/kmsg from the local source
1174950202 M * slack101 and guest or host ?
1174950209 M * jkl slack101: is syslog-ng still not starting correctly, and stating that it cannot read /proc/kmsg?
1174950219 M * slack101 yes
1174950221 M * slack101 wont start
1174950222 M * jkl slack101: on your guest
1174950227 M * Bertl you can work around that
1174950228 M * slack101 and cant read proc/kmsg
1174950244 M * Bertl http://linux-vserver.org/Capabilities_and_Flags
1174950291 M * Bertl hmm, interesting .. not listed there ...
1174950293 M * jkl Bertl: ccaps SYSLOG?
1174950313 M * Bertl ah, right
1174950330 M * jkl i guess that kind of indirectly infers access to /proc/kmsg then?
1174950345 M * slack101 so should i just comment it out ?
1174950353 M * Bertl yes, but it is better to just not start klogd
1174950374 M * jkl Bertl: if he's running syslog-ng he probably isnt running klogd
1174950374 M * Bertl because the syslog virtualization will never log anything
1174950390 M * slack101 how do i stop klogd from running ?
1174950392 M * Bertl well, removing/commenting out that like is fine
1174950408 M * Bertl (for syslog-ng)
1174950418 M * jkl source local  { pipe("/proc/kmsg"); unix-stream("/dev/log"); internal(); };
1174950421 M * jkl should become
1174950437 M * jkl source local  { unix-stream("/dev/log"); internal(); };
1174950439 M * jkl i believe
1174950451 M * Bertl yep, looks good ...
1174950529 M * jkl slack101: so don't comment out the whole line (if it's on one line) because you will cause even more problems!
1174950531 M * slack101 ooop
1174950532 M * slack101 s
1174950537 M * slack101 i just changed it on the host 
1174950539 M * slack101 by accident 
1174950540 M * jkl heh
1174950542 M * slack101 and didnt make back up
1174950554 M * slack101 this be a problem ?
1174950557 M * jkl it's ok.
1174950563 M * Bertl copy it from the guest then :)
1174950570 M * jkl hehe, true bertl
1174950582 M * Bertl nah, just look for a backup file and/or undo the change
1174950596 M * slack101 hmmmmm
1174950600 M * Bertl if all else fails, uninstall and reinstall
1174950609 M * Bertl (the syslog package that is)
1174950671 M * jkl Bertl: what's quota support look like in a vserver?
1174950728 M * slack101 unresolved reference: src
1174950728 M * slack101 Error initializing configuration, exiting.
1174950733 M * slack101 grrrrrrrrr
1174950744 M * jkl yep, you blew away the source line you needed
1174950759 M * jkl and now syslog-ng has no idea what to listen for/where
1174950772 M * Bertl jkl: quota like in user/group quota or in disk limits?
1174950787 M * jkl Bertl: user/group quotas
1174950791 M * slack101 hmmmmmm
1174950810 M * Bertl jkl: works when the guest is on a separate partition
1174950814 M * jkl slack101: if you paste your syslog-ng.conf file to paste.linux-vserver.org i will look at it
1174950830 M * Bertl jkl: we had support for shared quota too, but the demand was so low that we dropped it
1174950865 M * jkl Bertl: I have an LVM partition / reiserfs that is bind mounted to two vservers (mounted directly on the host)
1174950874 M * jkl Bertl: is there any chance to have quotas working in that scenario?
1174950931 M * jkl Bertl: it's a /home partition
1174951115 M * Bertl yes, but the user/groups will be shared between the two guests
1174951117 J * Wonka produziert@chaos.in-kiel.de
1174951141 M * Bertl i.e. uid=100 will be accounted regardless of the guest using it
1174951180 M * Bertl so as long as you make sure that the uids differ, you can probably use it in both guests
1174951278 M * jkl do you mean that the uid's are the same actually? 
1174951285 M * jkl and would the quota be managed on the host?
1174951298 M * Bertl well, you can have it both ways
1174951312 M * Bertl you can manage them completely on the host
1174951336 M * jkl in that scenario, every user would have to have accounts on the host though
1174951339 M * Bertl or you can let the guests manage the quota
1174951369 M * Bertl but, in any case, uid=100 will be uid=100 regardless of the guest 
1174951407 M * jkl ok
1174951737 M * slack101 ahhh forget it 
1174951756 M * slack101 maybe i should pay someone that knows what they are doing
1174951803 M * jkl slack101: but then you'll never learn any cool linux-vserver stuff!
1174951833 M * doener someone who knows?
1174951837 A * doener points at Bertl 
1174952262 M * slack101 jkl: money is more important atm ;)
1174952307 M * slack101 this computer is killing me .........i am wasting to much time on it 
1174952384 M * slack101 and when it coms to computers ............my focus level  is little to none grrrrrr
1174952550 M * jkl slack101: sounds like my problem with school work.
1174952919 Q * Johnnie Quit: G'bye!
1174952951 J * Johnnie ~jdlewis@c-67-163-247-109.hsd1.pa.comcast.net