1174005103 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1174005124 M * Bertl back now .. but almost off to bed ... anything urgent?
1174005233 J * Roey ~katz@dsl093-083-226.wdc1.dsl.speakeasy.net
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1174006408 M * Bertl okay, off to bed then ... have a good one!
1174006413 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
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1174007625 J * hallyn ~xa@adsl-75-2-80-15.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net
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1174007749 J * Roey ~katz@dsl093-083-226.wdc1.dsl.speakeasy.net
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1174012882 J * softi42 ~softi@p549D7C26.dip.t-dialin.net
1174014937 M * micah when using the rsync build method should it be pulling the source from the host, or from the guest being copied?
1174015300 M * micah i think thehost
1174015547 J * marcfiu ~mef@c-68-39-177-97.hsd1.nj.comcast.net
1174015795 P * marcfiu 
1174017301 J * dan ~dan@adsl-pool-222.123.52-199.tttmaxnet.com
1174017333 Q * dan 
1174017948 Q * ensc Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by ensc_))
1174017958 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p54B4E813.dip.t-dialin.net
1174019998 M * daniel_hozac micah: yes, it does.
1174020124 M * micah hmm, it seems as if any files change on the source during build, the build fails
1174020139 M * micah and what it transferred is removed
1174020148 M * micah for example:
1174020148 M * micah file has vanished: "/vservers/mx1/var/spool/postfix/incoming/D4FDB57204E"
1174020154 M * micah rsync warning: some files vanished before they could be transferred (code 24) at main.c(1385) [generator=2.6.9]
1174020169 M * daniel_hozac seems likely.
1174020177 M * micah yeah, since they are spool file
1174020190 M * daniel_hozac might be a good idea to exclude things like that...
1174020194 M * micah but I wasn't expecting it to clean up what it had transferred already
1174020212 M * daniel_hozac well, whenever the build fails, it'll clean up-.
1174020237 M * micah -- --exclude=/vservers/mx1/var/spool/postfix should do it
1174020295 M * micah i can't seem to place the verbose argument to rsync in the right place so i can see whats going on
1174020330 M * daniel_hozac vserver ... build -m rsync ... -- --source ... -o -v -o --exclude=/vservers/mx1/var/spool/postfix
1174020362 M * daniel_hozac (yes, i don't like the syntax either. i have no idea why i did that)
1174020400 M * micah oh I need -o
1174020415 M * daniel_hozac note that if you use -o, you'll need to specify all of the arguments.
1174020429 M * daniel_hozac i.e. -o -Hazx -o --numeric-ids as well.
1174020480 M * micah ah
1174020486 M * micah thanks
1174022289 J * DoberMann_ ~james@AToulouse-156-1-121-145.w90-30.abo.wanadoo.fr
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1174030718 J * bored2sleep ~bored2sle@66.111.53.150
1174031542 J * dna ~naucki@p54BCDB3B.dip.t-dialin.net
1174032137 M * harry is there a need for rc17 + grsec?
1174032148 M * harry i can put it online if people want that....
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1174032767 T * harry http://linux-vserver.org/ | latest stable 2.0.2.1, 2.0.3-rc1, 2.2.0-rc17, devel 2.3.0.11, stable+grsec 2.0.2.1, 2.2.0-rc17 | util-vserver-0.30.212 | libvserver-1.0.2 & vserver-utils-1.0.3 | He who asks a question is a fool for a minute; he who doesn't ask is a fool for a lifetime -- share the gained knowledge on the Wiki, and we'll forget about the minute ;) 
1174032825 N * DoberMann_ DoberMann
1174033820 J * DavidS ~david@chello062178045213.16.11.tuwien.teleweb.at
1174034504 N * DoberMann DoberMann[PullA]
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1174035158 J * ema ~ema@rtfm.galliera.it
1174035503 J * lilalinux ~plasma@dslb-084-058-206-203.pools.arcor-ip.net
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1174036611 N * DoberMann[PullA] DoberMann
1174037715 J * prae ~benjamin@foxhound.sherpadown.net
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1174038483 J * Piet hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org
1174039927 J * Aiken ~james@ppp250-73.lns2.bne4.internode.on.net
1174040130 Q * Aiken 
1174040170 J * Aiken ~james@ppp250-73.lns2.bne4.internode.on.net
1174042238 M * kir Bertl_zZ, bonbons, yes OpenVZ has /proc/cmdline inside VE, it is hardcoded to give 'quiet' :)
1174042270 M * kir Bertl_zZ, bonbons, was added because some piece of software (don't remember what it was) complained about absence of /proc/cmdline
1174042546 J * DavidS ~david@www.heureka.co.at
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1174043285 J * DavidS ~david@www.heureka.co.at
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1174043377 M * matti harry: :)
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1174043976 J * daniel_hozac|irssi ~daniel@c-091472d5.010-230-73746f22.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se
1174044016 J * matti_ matti@acrux.romke.net
1174044017 Q * lilalinux osmotic.oftc.net nobelium.oftc.net
1174044017 Q * FireEgl osmotic.oftc.net nobelium.oftc.net
1174044017 Q * SNy osmotic.oftc.net nobelium.oftc.net
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1174044017 Q * daniel_hozac osmotic.oftc.net nobelium.oftc.net
1174044017 Q * matti osmotic.oftc.net nobelium.oftc.net
1174044017 Q * baldy osmotic.oftc.net nobelium.oftc.net
1174044017 Q * tokkee osmotic.oftc.net nobelium.oftc.net
1174044017 Q * [PUPPETS]Gonzo osmotic.oftc.net nobelium.oftc.net
1174044020 J * tokkee tokkee@casella.verplant.org
1174044024 J * SNy df91b168cf@bmx-chemnitz.de
1174044031 J * baldy ~baldy@pptp.dial.ipv6-network.de
1174044039 J * [PUPPETS]Gonzo gonzo@langweiligneutral.deswahnsinns.de
1174044082 J * hardwire ~bip@12.6.43.10
1174044695 J * lilalinux ~plasma@dslb-084-058-206-203.pools.arcor-ip.net
1174044760 J * renihs ~penguin@83-65-34-34.arsenal.xdsl-line.inode.at
1174044779 J * FireEgl Proteus@adsl-61-136-122.bhm.bellsouth.net
1174044897 J * derjohn ~derjohn@80.69.41.3
1174045031 J * Kaamos ~Administr@dslb-084-061-162-043.pools.arcor-ip.net
1174045248 M * Kaamos hello, i finished my vserver host installation recently but when i'm trying to start a vserver i get the message: "vserver: line 685: /usr/bin/find: No such file or directory". i found a topic in the mailing list, but the findutils are installed and working correctly. any clue where to start searching für the error?  kernel is 2.6.18.5-vs2.0.3-rc1 and util-vserver is version 0.30.212
1174045411 M * daniel_hozac|irssi is /usr a separate filesystem and you installed the utils with --prefix=/?
1174045445 N * daniel_hozac|irssi daniel_hozac
1174045483 M * Kaamos prefix=/opt/util-vserver. /opt is a seperate partition
1174045526 M * daniel_hozac but is /usr a separate filesystem?
1174045594 M * Kaamos yes
1174045608 M * daniel_hozac well, that's why then.
1174045670 M * Kaamos is this a new issue? with an older vserver configuration it was working pretty good.
1174045822 M * daniel_hozac you should be able to do echo /usr >> /etc/vservers/.defaults/namespace-cleanup-skip
1174046268 M * Kaamos ok the vserver is starting
1174046313 M * Kaamos does this have any side-effects?
1174046353 M * daniel_hozac well, /usr will still be mounted in the guest's namespace.
1174046366 M * daniel_hozac but as that's required for certain things, e.g. find, that's not something i'd consider bad.
1174046657 J * baldy_ ~baldy@pptp.dial.ipv6-network.de
1174046683 Q * baldy Read error: Connection reset by peer
1174046705 M * Kaamos i had an other error when i tried to login "vlogin: openpty(): No such file or directory" but found the solution in the mailing list. would you say this release is reliable enough for productive usage?
1174046790 M * daniel_hozac the vlogin error basically means your guest is incomplete.
1174047060 M * Kaamos ok, thanks for your help
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1174048373 J * GrETg`AEv ~hollow@styx.xnull.de
1174048480 Q * Hollow Remote host closed the connection
1174048493 N * GrETg`AEv Hollow
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1174048685 J * virtuoso ~s0t0na@80.253.205.251
1174049324 J * hallyn ~xa@adsl-75-2-80-15.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net
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1174052302 J * ema ~ema@rtfm.galliera.it
1174053900 J * gol ~goloo@87.17.4.130
1174055107 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1174055111 M * Bertl morning folks!
1174055117 M * Bertl welcome gol!
1174055129 M * daniel_hozac morning Bertl!
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1174055537 M * transacid ah Bertl i see that the sighup problem is fixed, thx
1174055700 M * Bertl transacid: good ...
1174055723 M * Bertl btw, does anybody already have details about the 2.6.20.2->3 issue?
1174055752 M * transacid i just wanted to ask when we can expect a 2.6.20.3 release
1174055765 M * transacid i want to wait, couse of the DoS fix
1174055813 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: hmm?
1174055843 M * Bertl yeah, the ping of death thingy ...
1174055849 M * transacid yap
1174055851 M * transacid hehe
1174055886 M * Bertl what I would like to know is what ekrnels are actually affected, and is it really ipv6 only, as I heard?
1174055988 M * transacid a german news-site (heise.de) reports only ipv6 is affected
1174056006 M * daniel_hozac is the issue fixed in 2.6.20.3?
1174056007 M * transacid it's in the netfilter module
1174056012 M * transacid daniel_hozac: yes
1174056050 M * daniel_hozac in conntrack?
1174056068 M * transacid yes
1174056076 M * transacid in net/ipv6/netfilter/nf_conntrack_l3proto_ipv6.c
1174056188 M * daniel_hozac only IPv6 netfilter change in the changelog seems to be a way to circumvent iptables rules.
1174056483 Q * Piet Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1174057221 J * Piet hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org
1174058062 M * Bertl do we have a patch for 2.6.16.43?
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1174058627 J * sladen paul@starsky.19inch.net
1174058868 M * Bertl hey sladen! still alive?
1174059219 M * matti_ Bertl: :))))))))
1174059221 M * sladen Bertl: don't you love the screen+irssi interactions
1174059229 M * sladen Bertl: linuxtag'ing again?
1174059386 M * Bertl sladen: doesn't look like this year ...
1174059386 J * meandtheshel1 ~markus@85-125-230-215.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at
1174059392 M * Bertl hey matti_!
1174059410 M * Bertl sladen: screen+irssi works fine here .. no issues so far
1174059412 M * matti_ Bertl: How are you?
1174059424 M * Bertl matti_: fine, and you?
1174059446 M * matti_ So so.
1174059449 M * matti_ Thanks :)
1174059530 M * sid3windr anyone have more details on that dos?
1174059543 M * sid3windr transacid: do you have a url for the heise article?
1174059563 M * sid3windr ah, got it
1174059580 M * transacid sid3windr: http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/86787
1174059749 J * stefani ~stefani@flute.radonc.washington.edu
1174059782 J * besonen_mobile_ ~besonen_m@71-220-225-182.eugn.qwest.net
1174059785 M * Bertl morning stefani!
1174059797 M * stefani morgen...
1174059822 M * matti_ Is there english version?
1174059844 M * Bertl AFAIK no, but google translations should work for that
1174059856 M * matti_ :)
1174060061 M * sid3windr "it's b0rk"
1174060062 M * sid3windr ;)
1174060069 M * sid3windr malformed packet -> kernel panic in netfilter module
1174060083 M * sid3windr -> disable v6 or upgrade/patch kernel
1174060086 M * sid3windr </shortversion>
1174060108 M * Bertl doener_, daniel_hozac, matti_: would you help with a cross compiling environment (for automated kernel cross compiling and result reporting) ala Patch Lifecycle Manager (PLM)?
1174060153 Q * besonen_mobile Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1174060171 M * Bertl thing is, PLM will probably soon seize to exist (info)
1174060186 M * sid3windr (cease)
1174060217 M * Bertl right :)
1174060228 A * Bertl has to get more caffeine :)
1174060242 M * transacid same here ;)
1174060585 M * matti_ Did I heard the magic word?
1174060592 A * matti_ hands Bertl a cup of coffee.
1174060597 M * matti_ ;]
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1174062332 M * doener_ Bertl: what exactly would that require?
1174062354 N * doener_ doener
1174062391 M * Bertl doener: good question, probably writing some kind of php gui, doing a bunch of bash/perl/python? scripts for the comparisons and such, and a little hand holding here and there :)
1174062441 M * Bertl doener: I definitely will provide the cross compiling toolchains, and we will use Linux-VServer (of course) to separate entities ...
1174062502 M * Bertl doener: what I'm trying to figure here is, does it make sense to suggest something like that to a company to sponsor it or should we better keep test compiling on our home machines :)
1174062658 J * phedny ~mark@ip56538143.direct-adsl.nl
1174062758 M * doener so it's going to be a (partial?) copy of STP?
1174062849 M * Bertl yes, but as I said, PLM will go away soon, according to the folks maintaining it :)
1174062911 M * Bertl sidenote: PLM is already unuseable to some extend, as it uses different compiler chains, so you cannot compare/diff them anymore
1174062918 Q * tokkee Read error: Connection reset by peer
1174062928 M * doener PLM as in plm.testing.osdl.org or the whole software?
1174062948 M * Bertl as in the service provided, not the software, which has its own issues
1174062981 M * doener ok, I was aiming into the direction of "Can't we simply use/modify STP and run it ourselves?"
1174063010 M * Bertl well, probably yes, but I'd prefer to make it a lot nicer, faster and easier to handle
1174063014 Q * renihs Read error: Operation timed out
1174063048 M * Bertl doener: let me put it this way, I have a plan for that for a long time now (most details are already worked out)
1174063348 M * doener I'd definitely try to help, even if only to see some PHP code that looks better than the stuff that I currently have to deal with ;) But I can't make any promises... (The usual lack of time) :/
1174063374 M * Bertl okay, fair enough, I'm not expecting any commitments here :)
1174063538 M * Bertl matti_: what's your opinion?
1174063939 J * Piet_ hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org
1174064024 J * renihs ~penguin@83-65-34-34.arsenal.xdsl-line.inode.at
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1174064718 N * DoberMann DoberMann[PullA]
1174064911 M * Bertl okay, off for now ... back later
1174064915 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
1174067050 N * DoberMann[PullA] DoberMann
1174068060 N * DoberMann DoberMann[PullA]
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1174069305 J * fosco ~fosco@konoha.devnullteam.org
1174069623 J * glut glut@no.suid.pl
1174069733 J * FaUl immo@shell.chaostreff-dortmund.de
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1174070602 J * yarihm ~yarihm@84-75-132-210.dclient.hispeed.ch
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1174071343 M * daniel_hozac Bertl_oO: yeah, it's in the git tree i have here. (re: 2.6.16.43)
1174071368 M * matti_ My?
1174071383 N * DoberMann[PullA] DoberMann
1174071384 M * daniel_hozac Bertl_oO: also has a few backports of e.g. long atomics.
1174071444 M * daniel_hozac Bertl_oO: re: cross compiling environment, i'd love to, but my experience with that is rather limited.
1174071467 M * matti_ Bertl_oO: I will help of course. Any financial help needed?
1174071522 J * sladen paul@starsky.19inch.net
1174071523 M * matti_ Bertl_oO: ;)
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1174072612 J * michal` ~michal@www.rsbac.org
1174073269 J * dev-zero ~TizianoMu@gw.ptr-80-238-132-170.customer.ch.netstream.com
1174073290 M * dev-zero hi everyone
1174073303 M * dev-zero have a small problem with a vserver+grsec kernel
1174073318 M * dev-zero --> stack smashed in main (value 0x00000000000kpp00)
1174073520 M * dev-zero ideas?
1174073711 J * tokkee tokkee@ssh.faui2k3.org
1174073769 M * daniel_hozac with what program? sounds like it's smashing the stack.
1174073968 N * DoberMann DoberMann[PullA]
1174074312 M * dev-zero vserver foo start
1174074382 M * dev-zero daniel_hozac: that's why I'm here, it's the vserver command
1174074406 M * daniel_hozac which one?
1174074428 M * daniel_hozac i assume there is a filename listed somewhere, no?
1174074491 M * dev-zero  /usr/lib64/util-vserver/secure-mount
1174074714 M * daniel_hozac does it give you an address of where it's occuring?
1174074749 M * dev-zero not that I can see
1174074784 M * daniel_hozac could you paste the entire thing on paste.linux-vserver.org?
1174074874 M * Bertl_oO daniel_hozac: ah, could you upload the .43 patch somewhere?
1174074888 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1174074931 M * dev-zero daniel_hozac: the "entire" thing?
1174074945 M * daniel_hozac yes, the complete message.
1174074959 M * dev-zero daniel_hozac: I'm sorry, but there's nothing else
1174075027 M * Bertl dev-zero: what distro, how was it compiled, what does vserver-info - SYSINFO state?
1174075053 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: hmm, crap, seems it's been updated to 2.6.16.44-rc2. think that would work?
1174075081 M * Bertl probably, I doubt there will be many changes
1174075163 M * daniel_hozac http://people.linux-vserver.org/~dhozac/p/k/patch-2.6.16.44-rc2-vs2.0.3-rc1.2.diff
1174075204 M * dev-zero daniel_hozac: http://paste.linux-vserver.org/1292
1174075305 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: tx
1174075416 M * Bertl gentoo hardened 3.4.6 (sounds dangerous :)
1174075432 M * dev-zero well, it should work in general
1174075460 M * dev-zero the problem is that I'm a bit stuck with debugging
1174075466 M * dev-zero gdb doesn't seem to work
1174075472 M * Bertl yes, I'd assume so too, but reality shows that especially dietlibc stuff is not really tested on most distros
1174075483 M * daniel_hozac indeed.
1174075489 M * daniel_hozac try a simple diet program.
1174075502 M * Bertl dev-zero: for example, ubuntu breaks it completely with their broken gcc
1174075566 M * daniel_hozac (also "hardened")
1174076128 M * mjt ubuntu breaks dietlibc? Dietlibc hasn't been tested on most distros?  I wonder....
1174076148 M * mjt dietlibc works with kernel directly
1174076214 M * mjt so the only distro-specific stuff which can stay in a way are local kernel customisations. but that isn't being done on standard syscalls level (new features/drivers - yes, but not the standard syscalls A[BP]I)
1174076232 M * Bertl mjt: gcc is the magic word
1174076243 M * mjt (but yes, broken compiler will break it too)
1174076253 M * Bertl mjt: and that's what happens
1174076311 M * mjt and if the compiler is broken, it needs to be fixed... IMHO :)
1174076323 M * Bertl go ahead, fix it! :)
1174076330 M * mjt mine isn't broken
1174076351 M * Bertl so you are not using ubuntu then :)
1174076360 M * mjt at least all the stuff i compiled with it (including dietlibc) works
1174076641 M * sid3windr perhaps for varying values of works? :)
1174076707 M * dev-zero ok, recompiling dietlibc and util-vserver without pie and ssp helps :)
1174076779 M * dev-zero well, obviously, since ssp isn't enabled :)
1174076890 M * dev-zero hmm, and dietlibc is always compiled with "-fno-stack-protector -fno-stack-protector-all" on Gentoo
1174077685 J * CHTEKK ~chtekk@84.55.211.45
1174077702 M * Bertl wb CHTEKK!
1174077714 M * CHTEKK lo all! :) lately was a bit out of touch, and just saw rc17... daniel_hozac or Bertl, did the utime fix make it into rc17?
1174077723 M * CHTEKK hi Bertl! tnx
1174077944 M * Bertl AFAIK, all known issues should have been fixed 
1174078040 M * CHTEKK hmmm no idea if that ever was even aknowledged as pressing issue, but as daniel_hozac made the patch he might know if it made it into rc17 or not, I hope :)
1174078203 M * Bertl that was the link breaking with utime changes, right?
1174078217 M * CHTEKK yup
1174078279 M * Bertl http://people.linux-vserver.org/~dhozac/p/k/delta-utime-fix01.diff
1174078344 M * CHTEKK Bertl, yes exactly that one
1174078359 M * Bertl hmm, that is not in 2.2.x (yet)
1174078398 M * CHTEKK ok thanks for the info!
1174078404 M * Bertl np
1174078487 M * CHTEKK hopefully it'll be in rc18, that's the last problem I was experiencing for gentoo host/guests, 2.2.X and vcd (which is what I run and what I'm interested in)
1174078534 M * mjt i wonder if it'd be difficult to ditch all the /etc/vservers/ stuff and set up guests manually...
1174078535 M * Bertl care to explain to me once again (in a simple way) what the issue is?
1174078554 M * Bertl mjt: no, not that complicated
1174078610 M * mjt sid3windr: never had an issue with debian gcc - from -stable or from late -testing.
1174078680 M * CHTEKK Bertl, you were asking me or mjt to explain the issue better?
1174078702 M * Bertl CHTEKK: yes, you :)
1174078705 J * Aiken ~james@ppp250-73.lns2.bne4.internode.on.net
1174078711 M * Bertl morning Aiken!
1174078795 M * CHTEKK Bertl, basically some software was making calls to utime() during installation with Portage (some it seems using pythons utime function... lyix was the one that researched exactly from where the failures came), and on linked-guests that somehow then failed, cause it didn't break the links.
1174078799 M * Aiken hi Bertl
1174078868 M * Bertl CHTEKK: okay, hmm, do you know _what_ kind of software is affected?
1174078893 M * CHTEKK in lyix's tests "emerge openssh" for example failed
1174078924 J * bonbons ~bonbons@83.222.39.9
1174079494 M * Bertl CHTEKK: hmm, I wonder why neither Hollow nor phreak`` did encounter those issues yet ...
1174079513 M * Bertl (at least I'd assume they would have complained :)
1174079526 A * phreak`` goes reading what CHTEKK asked Bertl :P
1174079643 M * CHTEKK Bertl, I just tried and can't trigger the same failure as well... it might depend on some particular circumstances or Portage version, I'll have to ask lyix when I see him next
1174079653 M * CHTEKK he was seeing those failures and that patch fixed them for him
1174079676 M * phreak`` I've never experienced anything like this :) but I have to admit, I haven't kept up-to-date with the latest shiny release (I'm still stuck with 2.6.17 for the time being)
1174079789 N * DoberMann[PullA] DoberMann
1174079818 M * Bertl CHTEKK: okay, keep bringing it up every now and then, so that it doesn't get forgotten :)
1174079849 M * CHTEKK ok sure, and I'll see if I can reliably reproduce it in the meantime :)
1174079891 M * phedny Bertl: do you know some place to get more info about DVB when things don't work?
1174079965 M * Bertl depends on _what_ actually doesn't work
1174080016 M * Bertl CHTEKK: I see no big problem to add the change or similar to 2.3, given that somebody can test it, but I'd rather avoid it for 2.2.x as it would mean a lot of testing which would have to be redone
1174080044 M * phedny I can only get a lock on 308 MHz and 404 MHz, on all other frequencies the scan tool gives a "tuning failed" warning
1174080059 M * CHTEKK Bertl, ok sure
1174080097 M * Bertl phedny: but you expect a little more, yes?
1174080121 M * phedny well, I should be able to find 51 FTA channels
1174080145 M * Bertl so dvb-s is what we are talking about, yes?
1174080152 M * Bertl (or dvb-c)
1174080158 M * phedny dvb-c
1174080179 M * Bertl okay, try to bother the linux tv folks
1174080201 M * Bertl they should know how to handle that (irc channel on freenode, IIRC)
1174080353 M * phedny yeah, found it
1174080355 M * phedny thanks
1174080443 M * Bertl np
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1174082814 M * Bertl okay, kind of tired ... so off to bed now ...
1174082821 M * Bertl have a good one everyone, cya!
1174082826 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
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