1173917105 M * Bertl WARN_ON(cpu_is_offline(cpu));
1173917178 M * gcj thanks bertl
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1173919292 N * DoberMann[PullA] DoberMann[ZZZzzz]
1173919718 M * Bertl okay, off to bed now ... have a good one everyone! cya!
1173919723 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
1173924924 P * m4rl8n 
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1173942622 J * dreamind ~dreamind@C2107.campino.wh.tu-darmstadt.de
1173942662 M * dreamind Hi folks :)
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1173946035 N * DoberMann DoberMann[PullA]
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1173950541 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1173950545 M * Bertl morning folks!
1173950550 M * daniel_hozac morning Bertl!
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1173952769 M * matti Bertl: Morning!
1173953551 M * renihs hey matti 
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1173955771 J * Piet hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org
1173956265 J * lilalinux ~plasma@dslb-084-058-206-126.pools.arcor-ip.net
1173958482 M * matti Hi renihs :)
1173958486 M * matti renihs: How are you?
1173958497 M * renihs fighting with rtg & rtgplot :)
1173958845 M * matti Oh.
1173958853 M * matti That sounds fun.
1173958854 M * matti :)
1173959260 M * renihs i wish i could concurr
1173959672 M * matti http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LLTsSnGWMI
1173959673 M * matti ROTFL
1173960587 M * sannes hehe
1173961068 J * DavidS ~david@chello062178045213.16.11.tuwien.teleweb.at
1173961128 Q * DavidS 
1173962770 J * hallyn ~xa@adsl-75-2-80-15.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net
1173964606 J * Ben81 ~Ben81@tipi0e.lri.fr
1173964646 M * dev-zero hi everyone
1173964700 Q * SNy Remote host closed the connection
1173964739 M * dev-zero I'm starting to implement a function which makes it possible to mount volumes to directories in /vserver/foo before actually building the vserver
1173964759 M * dev-zero and that the build-script records those mounts in the generated fstab
1173965088 M * Bertl hey, hmm?
1173965112 M * Bertl what's the purpose?
1173965152 M * dev-zero I mounted /dev/evms/foo_home to /vserver/foo/home and /dev/evsm/foo_var to /vserver/foo/var
1173965183 M * dev-zero when I try to build a vserver in /vserver/foo it fails with a message that /vserver/foo already exists
1173965244 M * Bertl ah, so you are _extending_ the util-vserver build system to be 'mount' aware and integrate that into the to-be-built guest config (fstab) yes?
1173965279 M * dev-zero what I would like to have here is that the build-script a) ignores it and b) that it records the mountpoints and puts them in the fstab
1173965281 M * dev-zero yes :)
1173965316 M * Bertl makes sense, you should coordinate with daniel_hozac, might be interesting for him too
1173965323 M * dev-zero daniel_hozac: ping?
1173965337 M * dev-zero this is why I announced it here before actually starting :)
1173965356 M * Bertl yep, good move ...
1173966514 M * matti ;]
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1173967480 J * infowolfe ~infowolfe@c-67-164-195-129.hsd1.ut.comcast.net
1173969058 J * kernel ~root@195.245.52.253
1173969410 J * ema ~ema@lart.galliera.it
1173970390 P * kernel 
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1173973939 J * stefani ~stefani@tsipoor.banerian.org
1173975237 J * bwesarg ~chatzilla@p54A730C3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
1173975245 N * bwesarg janq
1173975259 M * janq Hello
1173975285 M * matti Hi janq
1173975329 M * janq well, I have a problem with linuxvserver
1173975331 M * janq it's about semaphores
1173975386 M * janq I have one server with about 20 vservers running
1173975391 M * matti Just ask :)
1173975402 M * janq and now the vservers have problems, when I will start apache2
1173975412 M * janq the error log says
1173975414 M * janq No space left on device
1173975416 M * Bertl what kernel version? patch version?
1173975425 M * janq wait a second
1173975456 M * janq Linux debian31m 2.6.18.1-vs2.0.2.2-rc3 #1 PREEMPT Sun Oct 29 17:37:18 CET 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
1173975473 P * stefani I'm Parting (the water)
1173975480 M * janq this is the kernel
1173975566 M * matti Hm...
1173975593 M * janq I think the patch is
1173975594 M * janq 	 vs2.1.1
1173975634 M * janq sorry, that's wrong
1173975648 M * janq wait a second
1173975723 M * matti No worries mate.
1173975728 M * matti Take your time :)
1173975744 M * janq is there any possibility to see which version is used?
1173975989 M * janq so, the patch is 2.0.2
1173976092 M * Bertl kernel version?
1173976117 M * janq 2.6.18.1
1173976544 Q * janq Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.77 [Firefox 2.0.0.2/2007021917]
1173977600 J * Loki|muh loki@satanix.de
1173977643 Q * phedny Quit: kernel upgrade
1173977659 J * Piet_ hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org
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1173978011 M * dev-zero daniel_hozac,Bertl: http://rafb.net/p/e0i3he68.html ... the part which scans for mountpoints :)
1173978283 J * bonbons ~bonbons@83.222.39.9
1173978691 M * Bertl dev-zero: okay, tx!
1173979141 M * dev-zero some corrections: http://rafb.net/p/lrfME149.html
1173979161 M * dev-zero well, I guess I'll wait on daniel_hozac's pong before I continue :)
1173979232 J * DavidS ~david@chello062178045213.16.11.tuwien.teleweb.at
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1173979774 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
1173979825 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1173979855 Q * pmenier Quit: leaving
1173980151 M * yang hey Bertl, I got one problem, the server with vserver installation boots, but it doesnt come up to the kernel-selecting screen...it gives up before, what could I do?
1173980368 J * infowolfe ~infowolfe@c-67-164-195-129.hsd1.ut.comcast.net
1173980447 J * phedny ~mark@ip56538143.direct-adsl.nl
1173981038 M * phedny Linux vlc 2.6.20.2-vs2.2.0-rc17 #2 Thu Mar 15 18:19:29 CET 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
1173981049 M * phedny and still the "Operation not permitted" error
1173981431 M * daniel_hozac phedny: hmm?
1173981440 M * daniel_hozac ah, the dvb thing?
1173981449 M * daniel_hozac still on open?
1173981465 M * Bertl yang: what is the kernel selecting screent?
1173981523 M * Bertl phedny: this time with debugging enabled?
1173981535 M * phedny yes
1173981544 M * phedny to both questions
1173981547 M * yang Bertl: I can't tell more, the server is in the ISP
1173981555 M * yang in the datacenter
1173981577 M * phedny vxW: xid=120 tried to spawn a kernel thread.
1173981577 M * phedny dvb_frontend_start: failed to start kernel_thread (-1)
1173981582 M * phedny I never saw this before :|
1173981590 M * daniel_hozac there you go.
1173981599 M * yang Bertl: I mean the linux kernel selection, where you select the kernel to boot
1173981614 M * yang Bertl: before that it works, then it doesnt come to this screen
1173981618 M * daniel_hozac yang: you mean the boot loader?
1173981625 M * yang yes, the boot loader
1173981637 M * daniel_hozac and which one are you using?
1173981663 M * yang I was using 2.6.17-3 and it worked for a month or two untill it collapsed, and now they cant boot into it anymore
1173981766 M * Bertl yang: you realize, that the bootloader has absolutely nothing to do with the distro/installation?
1173981812 M * Bertl yang: i.e. what probably happened is that something did overwrite your bootblock or it got corrupted or the disk layout/bios config changed
1173981838 M * yang Bertl: can that be fixed somehow, or does it need to be reainstalled completelly?
1173981840 M * Bertl as this is before any kernel is even considered ...
1173981861 M * Bertl yes, I would suggest booting from a rescue CD or USB stick
1173981878 M * Bertl phedny: okay, do you get any messages in dmesg?
1173981889 M * Bertl phedny: (when you try to access the device)
1173981898 M * daniel_hozac 18:59 < phedny> vxW: xid=120 tried to spawn a kernel thread.
1173981898 M * daniel_hozac 18:59 < phedny> dvb_frontend_start: failed to start kernel_thread (-1)
1173981898 M * phedny yes, these two:
1173981902 M * phedny indeed
1173981925 M * Bertl ah, interesting
1173981941 M * Bertl well, I guess that explains it somewhat
1173981958 M * phedny for me it makes sense as -EPERM == -1 :)
1173981972 M * Bertl but 2.6.20.2 should be fixed in this regard, at least I submitted a patch to use the kernel thread api
1173981986 M * Bertl (about two months ago or so :)
1173982011 M * phedny hmm, fun
1173982066 M * Bertl well, basically you have two options here
1173982089 M * Bertl a) find the patch/apply it if missing/fix it if insufficient :)
1173982106 M * phedny http://lkml.org/lkml/2006/12/13/132 <-- the one on this page is fine?
1173982123 M * Bertl b) as you seem to do unusual stuff, you might as well remove the kernel thread check
1173982148 M * Bertl phedny: yes, indeed
1173982150 Q * ema Quit: leaving
1173982163 M * phedny then I'll try option a)
1173982180 M * phedny but DVB is unusual?
1173982298 M * Bertl inside a Linux-VServer, yes :)
1173982324 M * phedny :)
1173982330 M * Bertl I do quite a lot with dvb, and even have it running on Linux-VServer kernels
1173982348 M * Bertl but I never thought of putting it into a guest/context
1173982364 M * Bertl (which will work fine, once the kthread issue is resolved)
1173982527 J * besonen_mobile ~besonen_m@71-220-225-182.eugn.qwest.net
1173982542 M * phedny Bertl: in a moment I might be able to confirm this :)
1173982560 M * Bertl welcome besonen_mobile!
1173982702 M * besonen_mobile thanks Bertl.
1173982716 Q * phedny Quit: reboot
1173982834 J * phedny ~mark@ip56538143.direct-adsl.nl
1173982856 M * Bertl it booted? 
1173982912 M * phedny wow!
1173982914 M * phedny >>> tune to: 308000000:INVERSION_AUTO:6900000:FEC_NONE:QAM_64
1173982914 M * phedny WARNING: >>> tuning failed!!!
1173982953 M * Bertl see what good work I do :)
1173982959 M * phedny thanks !!
1173982967 M * Bertl you're welcome!
1173982977 M * phedny I think it's time to move the server and connect the coax cable :)
1173982996 M * Bertl kernel 2.6.35 will probably include the patch
1173983013 M * phedny then I should build a personal patch library
1173983018 M * daniel_hozac when someone else submits it. ;)
1173983051 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: no, after someone else has submitted it four times and a 'kernel core developer' has rewritten it from scratch :)
1173983059 M * daniel_hozac hehe
1173983084 M * Bertl no, actually it should be in mm
1173983110 M * Bertl and probably the dvb tree too ...
1173983126 M * phedny that might be true, as the post was about 2.6.19-mm1
1173983213 M * Bertl btw, good to know that it still applies ...
1173983248 M * phedny I only used the dvb_frontend.c part
1173983292 M * Bertl well, good that it partially applied then :)
1173983377 M * phedny but I'm afk .. putting cables in place
1173983469 M * Bertl we won't use it against you :)
1173983556 M * Bertl hmm, madriva 2007, recompiling an rpm, what is wrong with this picture:
1173983562 M * Bertl *** [Gentoo] sanity check failed! ***
1173984259 M * dev-zero daniel_hozac: hey :)
1173984301 M * dev-zero Bertl: well, that's Gentoo's world dominance feature ;-)
1173984347 N * DoberMann[PullA] DoberMann
1173984432 M * Bertl dev-zero: thought so ...
1173984508 Q * phedny Quit: server move
1173984684 J * SNy aa3fe52c5a@bmx-chemnitz.de
1173984694 M * Bertl wb SNy!
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1173985531 J * duckx ~Duck@tox.dyndns.org
1173986226 J * FireEgl Proteus@2001:5c0:84dc:1:211:9ff:feca:b042
1173986448 J * phedny ~mark@ip56538143.direct-adsl.nl
1173986467 M * daniel_hozac dev-zero: you really should use /proc/mounts.
1173986523 M * daniel_hozac dev-zero: though i suppose that wouldn't work for bind mounts or similar.
1173986535 M * dev-zero daniel_hozac: well, the user_xattr stuff isn't recorded there
1173986536 M * phedny Bertl: thanks! the scan tool now detects a lot a channels :)
1173986572 M * phedny although I get a lot of "Tuning failed" errors, but that's not vserver-related :)
1173986578 M * dev-zero daniel_hozac: how do "we" proceed?
1173986586 M * Bertl phedny: hehe, I hope so :)
1173986595 M * daniel_hozac well, a patch against util-vserver is always a good starting point...
1173986596 M * dev-zero daniel_hozac: should I write a complete patch or are you doing it anyway?
1173986820 M * daniel_hozac i really think it's overcomplicated the way it is now though.
1173986825 M * daniel_hozac seems a simple grep ought to do the trick,
1173986980 M * dev-zero seems to simplify it only slightly
1173986993 M * daniel_hozac how so?
1173987012 M * dev-zero well, it's only the isMountpoint-thingy
1173987062 M * dev-zero and you have to make sure that grep "/vserver/foo/var" doesn't match "/vserver/foo/var/tmp" as well
1173987393 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: could you check something out for me in princeton?
1173987406 M * daniel_hozac sure.
1173987424 M * Bertl ah, I guess I already figured it ...
1173987431 M * daniel_hozac hehe.
1173987445 M * daniel_hozac always happens 10 seconds after you ask someone ;)
1173987452 M * Bertl yeah ... as usual
1173987480 M * Bertl but might be interesting for you anyway
1173987495 M * Bertl try vserver mdv001 start
1173987524 J * dreamind ~dreamind@p54A7A9CD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
1173987530 M * Bertl wb dreamind!
1173987535 M * dreamind Hi Bertl 
1173987546 M * daniel_hozac okay, what am i looking for?
1173987563 M * daniel_hozac (looks like the guest was extract into a subdirectory of the guest, rather than the root)
1173987564 M * Bertl well, the reason is that my 'template' tar was not correct :)
1173987566 M * dreamind Bertl: nice to meet you ;) - maybe you can help me... do you know wether its possible to assign more than 10 ips to a vserver?
1173987576 M * daniel_hozac dreamind: 16 should be fine.
1173987584 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: but the error message is kind of strange :)
1173987585 M * dreamind hm, I used 0 till 9
1173987585 M * daniel_hozac dreamind: more than that will require a patch of the kernel.
1173987589 M * dreamind and 10 doesn't work
1173987598 M * dreamind or do I have to use A ?
1173987600 M * dreamind (hex)
1173987609 M * daniel_hozac you mean the names of the interfaces directories?
1173987614 M * dreamind daniel_hozac: yep
1173987618 M * daniel_hozac those are arbitrary.
1173987620 M * Bertl they should not matter at all
1173987638 M * daniel_hozac you can name those qwerty, aoeu, or whatever random combination you feel like.
1173987650 M * dreamind ah ok... hm...
1173987684 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: but, what if someone runs a minimal guest that only has one static binary or such?
1173987715 M * dreamind sorry, it works, I just did oversee the assigned ip...
1173987718 M * dreamind sorry ;)
1173987738 M * dreamind well have to go, somebody is working on the ethernet patchpanel... so bye ;)
1173987747 Q * dreamind 
1173987754 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: I'm fine with all that, I would more expect the template build to bail out (or warn about stuff like this)
1173987792 M * daniel_hozac on the lack of /tmp and /var?
1173987815 M * Bertl for example, as they are used/written to the fstab
1173987876 M * daniel_hozac i suppose /tmp would make sense.
1173987949 M * Bertl and what is it trying to tell me now?
1173987978 M * daniel_hozac there's no /etc/rc.d/rc or /etc/init.d/rc script in the guest, so the sysv style can't start.
1173987991 M * daniel_hozac +it
1173988026 M * Bertl hmm, strange, where was that lost ...
1173988071 J * kILna ~mva@13-216-124-91.pool.ukrtel.net
1173988095 M * Bertl welcome kILna!
1173988123 M * kILna Привет
1173988217 M * Bertl no klingon here :)
1173988305 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: maybe I'm too stupid, but how do I create a proper tar for the template method when I have a directory containing the files
1173988348 M * daniel_hozac tar -czf tarball -C <directory> .?
1173988384 P * kILna Ухожу
1173988433 M * Bertl tx
1173988441 M * daniel_hozac how were you creating it?
1173988465 M * Bertl tar --numeric-owner -cjCf mdv.2007.min mdv.2007.min.v1.tar.bz2 .
1173988506 M * Bertl cjCf actually works, but only without the dash
1173988537 M * daniel_hozac hmm, ok, that sounds really strange.
1173988550 M * Bertl pdp11, you know :)
1173988580 M * daniel_hozac not really, seems to be before my time ;)
1173988630 Q * besonen_mobile Read error: Connection reset by peer
1173988630 M * Bertl !11 PDP a ni deppart m'I  !pleH
1173988656 M * daniel_hozac lol, got it.
1173988752 M * Bertl *tsts* we have to add the cmdline virtualization
1173988768 M * daniel_hozac oh? why's that?
1173988773 M * daniel_hozac (i think that'll break Gentoo)
1173988790 M * Bertl # vserver mdv001 start
1173988790 M * Bertl grep: /proc/cmdline: No such file or directory
1173988805 M * daniel_hozac hehe.
1173988815 M * Bertl how would it break gentoo?
1173988873 M * daniel_hozac IIRC it checks for /proc/cmdline to determine if it's running inside a guest.
1173988876 M * daniel_hozac (someone please correct me)
1173988924 M * bonbons the new baselayout? don't know... the baselayout-vserver has no need for such a check
1173989005 M * daniel_hozac right, new baselayout.
1173989047 M * Bertl hmm, I thought it would check for the context info?
1173989063 M * Bertl at least that was, what Hollow talked about IIRC
1173989075 M * bonbons hmm, someone knows if openvz has /proc/cmdline? if so it shouldn't hurt to virtualize it!
1173989089 M * Bertl no idea .. kir?
1173989515 Q * lilalinux Remote host closed the connection
1173989525 M * daniel_hozac okay, i was wrong.
1173989553 M * daniel_hozac (according to http://anonsvn.gentoo.org/repositories/baselayout/trunk/sbin/functions.sh:is_vps_sys, at least)
1173990329 J * besonen_mobile ~besonen_m@71-220-225-182.eugn.qwest.net
1173992410 M * Bertl okay, off for now ... back later ...
1173992414 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
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