1173658280 J * FireEgl ~FireEgl@adsl-61-136-122.bhm.bellsouth.net
1173659523 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1173659526 M * Bertl back now ...
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1173662944 J * shuri ~shuri@hq01.electronicbox.net
1173662954 N * shuri Shuri
1173662978 M * Shuri Hi!
1173663407 J * Aiken ~james@ppp217-223.lns2.bne1.internode.on.net
1173664090 M * Bertl hey Shuri! hey Aiken!
1173664104 M * Shuri hello Bertl 
1173664123 M * Aiken hi
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1173665886 J * calamari ~calamari@ip72-200-73-175.tc.ph.cox.net
1173665900 M * calamari hi
1173665960 M * calamari I'm trying to set up a Multiseat Linux configuration.  Can I use vserver for this?
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1173666247 J * softi42 ~softi@p549D6332.dip.t-dialin.net
1173666680 M * Bertl calamari: yes, a good friend is doing so with MoreUbuntu
1173666697 M * calamari I looked at moreubuntu but I could not find any documentation on how to do it
1173666797 M * Bertl well, basically you put several X servers into different contexts (guests), and provide each context with the necessary devices (keyboard/mouse/etc)
1173666875 M * calamari ahh.. I wonder if my card will work then.  It is a dual-head nVidia.. problem is it appears as only one PCI device
1173666889 M * Bertl depends on _how_ you use it
1173666898 M * calamari oh?
1173666901 M * Bertl if you use it as framebuffer device, it should work
1173666911 M * Bertl but of course, you will not have 3D stuff and such
1173666916 M * calamari I have only /dev/fb0
1173666948 M * Bertl with two heads, you should have fb0 and fb1 if the card is running in framebuffer mode (and configured properly)
1173667003 M * calamari there is another method mentioned using Xgl but I have no idea how that one works.  It is supposed to be similar to another called Xephyr that uses two extra xservers under the main xinerama server 
1173667039 M * Bertl yes, that might work too, but is definitely untested, i.e. you have to experiment
1173667081 M * calamari would that maintain the 3D ?
1173667164 M * calamari sorry if I'm going very offtopic 
1173667186 M * calamari there doesn't seem to be much out there on this topic and you seem to have a little knowledge in the area :)
1173667199 M * Bertl if you are using Xgl, you have all the 3D stuff
1173667300 M * Bertl AAMOF I still do not understand why X11 wasn't ported/switched to GL 5 years ago :)
1173667528 M * Bertl but I have no idea how you an separate the GL contexts for two displays (so that they can be used by different X servers)
1173667629 M * calamari perhaps I'm misunderstanding.. by no 3d, are you meaning the desktop.. or can I still run 3d apps?
1173667665 M * Bertl you can basically do whatever the fb interface supports
1173667692 M * Bertl which IMHO is limited to 'normal' access without any glx and specific video ports
1173667722 M * Bertl i.e. you get blitting and scaling to some extend, but no glx or xvideo apps
1173667734 M * calamari thanks
1173667761 M * Bertl if you figure a way to split up the Xgl stuff, then you get the fulls GL power
1173669737 Q * FireEgl Quit: ...
1173670638 M * Bertl okay, I'm off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
1173670643 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
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1173672358 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p54B4D25D.dip.t-dialin.net
1173674080 J * yaboo ~jsirucka@220-245-131-131.static.tpgi.com.au
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1173675108 J * duckx ~Duck@tox.dyndns.org
1173675390 M * yaboo hello
1173675393 M * daniel_hozac hi
1173675652 M * yaboo anyone able to help me compile a vserver kernel for linux
1173675656 M * yaboo using debian
1173675703 M * daniel_hozac http://linux-vserver.org/Installation_on_Linux_2.6
1173675715 M * Shuri yaboo, yo can use debian package on SID
1173675715 M * daniel_hozac other than that, it's the same as compiling a vanilla kernel.
1173675736 M * daniel_hozac etch has packages too.
1173675749 M * Shuri linux-headers-2.6.18-4-vserver-686
1173675776 M * arachnist remember to avoid using .18-3 ;>
1173675843 M * yaboo daniel_hozac, ok wanted to go more newer 2.6.19.7
1173675852 M * daniel_hozac then do so.
1173675856 M * yaboo ok
1173675863 M * daniel_hozac same steps apply, just exchange the version numbers.
1173675867 M * yaboo just trying to find the right kernel vserver settings
1173675893 M * daniel_hozac that page should list all of the settings.
1173675897 M * daniel_hozac (along with a description)
1173675902 M * yaboo ok
1173675922 M * daniel_hozac (the help available in config should work too)
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1173676773 M * bored2sleep Bertl_zZ: regarding split Xgl... I recall that there was a (somewhat successful) Xen based project that got GL working somehow on a domU and a dom0 at the same time.  I've been meaning to read up on how it worked, but I haven't gotten around to it yet.  I would think it should be easier for vserver, though it would definitely take some custom driver.
1173676958 M * arachnist uhmm... i'm not sure why it should be impossible to use gl in vserver
1173677326 M * daniel_hozac the problem isn't with GL, but with getting GL to work on a dual-head card in two separate X instances.
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1173684434 J * cast ~cast@ppp45-132.lns4.adl2.internode.on.net
1173684463 M * cast hey guys, is it possible to use vserver with a uml instance?
1173686632 M * ray6 vserver in UML should be possible. UML in vserver might be, too, I guess
1173686683 M * Wonka uml in vserver in xen in vbox in qemu!!!11!
1173686687 M * Wonka *duck*
1173686713 M * ray6 uml in vserver makes sense. vserver in xen, too :) 
1173686783 M * cast well i have a vps, running uml. i'd like to use vserver in my instance as i like it over chrooting daemons
1173686810 M * ray6 can you get your own kernel there?
1173686834 M * ray6 You need a vserver capable UML kernel. If the kernel is provided by your VPS hoster you're lost
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1173687439 J * cehteh ~ct@pipapo.org
1173687726 M * cast not entirely lost, as hoster will likely compile one if requested
1173688126 N * DoberMann DoberMann[PullA]
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1173693272 M * matti :)
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1173694490 N * ZLinux zLinux
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1173697292 J * lilalinux ~plasma@80.69.41.3
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1173699615 J * dna ~naucki@p54BCD39C.dip.t-dialin.net
1173701596 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1173701599 M * Bertl morning folks!
1173701620 M * daniel_hozac morning Bertl!
1173701753 M * cast hey Bertl :)
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1173702475 M * Bertl cast: ah, you have an interesting setup?
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1173702807 J * _dmax ~semaj@bl9-224-162.dsl.telepac.pt
1173702953 J * weasel weasel@asteria.debian.or.at
1173702960 M * cast wanting to run vserver on my vps, don't think its going to happen any time soon though :(, maybe if they fully migrate to xen
1173702986 A * cast is fighting people about xinetd atm :\
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1173703198 J * Loki|muh loki@satanix.de
1173703338 M * Bertl cast: what's the problem?
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1173703996 M * matti Hi Bertl :)
1173704137 J * softi42 ~softi@p549D6332.dip.t-dialin.net
1173705024 Q * ex synthon.oftc.net charon.oftc.net
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1173705079 J * Guy- DHSVGMWjSQ@chardonnay.math.bme.hu
1173705079 J * bXi bluepunk@irssi.co.uk
1173705079 J * neuralis ~krstic@solarsail.hcs.harvard.edu
1173705079 J * mountie ~mountie@trb229.travel-net.com
1173705079 J * transacid ~transacid@transacid.de
1173705079 J * ruskie ruskie@ruskie.user.oftc.net
1173705079 J * ntrs ntrs@68-188-55-120.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com
1173705079 J * vasko ~vasko@unreal.rainside.sk
1173705079 J * duckx ~Duck@tox.dyndns.org
1173705079 J * dlezcano ~dlezcano@blueice3n1.uk.ibm.com
1173705079 J * eyck eyck@kuszelas.com
1173705079 J * nou Chaton@causse.larzac.fr.eu.org
1173705079 J * ard ~ard@goatse.kwaak.net
1173705079 J * spion ~bombadil@bofh.lx.se
1173705079 J * fosco fosco@konoha.devnullteam.org
1173705079 J * nox ~nox@nox.user.oftc.net
1173705079 J * mnemoc ~amery@kilo105.server4you.de
1173705079 J * s0undt3ch ~s0undt3ch@80.69.34.154
1173705079 J * kaner kaner@strace.org
1173705079 J * badari ~badari@bi01p1.co.us.ibm.com
1173705079 J * ag- ~ag@zealot.plz.fr
1173705079 J * micah ~micah@micah.riseup.net
1173705079 J * Bertl herbert@IRC.13thfloor.at
1173705079 J * Hollow ~hollow@85.10.237.60
1173705079 J * Hunger Hunger.hu@Hunger.hu
1173705079 J * doener_ ~doener@host.magicwars.de
1173705079 J * rob-84x^ ~rob@submarine.ath.cx
1173705079 J * DoberMann ~james@AToulouse-156-1-78-133.w86-196.abo.wanadoo.fr
1173705079 J * cast ~cast@ppp45-132.lns4.adl2.internode.on.net
1173705079 J * meandtheshell ~markus@85-124-207-193.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at
1173705079 J * dmax ~semaj@bl9-224-162.dsl.telepac.pt
1173705079 J * bronson ~bronson@adsl-75-36-145-145.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net
1173705079 J * DreamerC ~dreamerc@125-225-102-154.dynamic.hinet.net
1173705079 J * click click@ti511110a080-0949.bb.online.no
1173705079 J * Adrinael adrinael@st12-127.tky.hut.fi
1173705079 J * renihs ~penguin@83-65-34-34.arsenal.xdsl-line.inode.at
1173705079 J * Vudumen 5fe2d48232@217.20.138.14
1173705079 J * sladen paul@starsky.19inch.net
1173705079 J * phedny ~mark@ip56538143.direct-adsl.nl
1173705079 J * TrueBrain truelight@openttd.org
1173705079 J * pusling pusling@195.215.29.124
1173705079 J * michal` ~michal@www.rsbac.org
1173705079 J * _cob ~cob@pc-csa01.science.uva.nl
1173705079 J * lilalinux ~plasma@80.69.41.3
1173705079 J * fs fs@213.178.77.98
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1173705079 J * cohan_ ~cohan@koniczek.de
1173705079 J * jkl 3VCgv8fEI1@c-67-173-253-237.hsd1.co.comcast.net
1173705079 J * brcc_ bruce@i.am.someasshole.com
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1173706089 M * Bertl matti: hey!
1173706112 M * matti :)
1173706129 J * cdrx ~legoater@blueice1n1.uk.ibm.com
1173706149 M * Bertl wb cdrx!
1173706172 M * renihs narf
1173706174 M * cdrx he, hi Bertl 
1173706235 M * matti renihs: LOL
1173706241 M * matti renihs: Too much cartoones ;]
1173706254 M * renihs matti, nono, narf is a common expression for me 
1173706267 M * renihs i use it for everything i have no fitting word for
1173706293 M * matti Oh.
1173706296 M * matti Clever ;p
1173706300 M * matti ;pppp
1173706313 M * Bertl narf :)
1173706317 M * matti Bertl: Hehehe.
1173706660 M * renihs narf is an very good concept you know? :)
1173706689 M * renihs time for food, bbl :)
1173706850 J * yaboo ~jsirucka@220-245-131-131.static.tpgi.com.au
1173706879 M * Bertl welcome yaboo!
1173707924 M * Bertl okay, off for now ... back later ...
1173707931 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
1173708190 J * cairon ~pablodurc@119.Red-80-32-67.staticIP.rima-tde.net
1173708207 P * cairon 
1173710028 J * hillie ~alex@198.200.181.206
1173710131 M * hillie Is it possible if eth0 has IP 10.9.2.1 and eth0:1 has 10.9.4.1 that you can set up a vserver with 10.9.4.2 ? will this work?
1173710154 M * hillie i'm trying to set up a dmz inside of the vserver as to avoid having to use multiple machines
1173710486 M * daniel_hozac sure.
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1173711652 J * michal` ~michal@www.rsbac.org
1173713178 M * hillie I just emerged baselayout-1.13.0.alpha_12 .. but when I create a vserver it said it found baselayout-1.6 ?!! and can't make changes to it.. i verified it with equery. 1.13.0_alpha12 .. before it said 1.12-r2 (before i updated)
1173713232 J * FloodServ services@services.oftc.net
1173713301 M * daniel_hozac did you emerge it into the guest?
1173713427 M * hillie no
1173713475 M * daniel_hozac so, why do you expect it to make a difference?
1173713539 M * hillie because it complains about it not being there when i first create the vps
1173713557 M * hillie so i figured it was talking about the main system. I can't emerge anything onto the vps
1173713559 M * daniel_hozac yes, because you're not using a stage3 that has it.
1173713659 M * hillie hm. i grabbed the latest one from the gatech mirror. did i dl the wrong one? or should i make my own? (altho since i can't emerge stuff atm i have to figure that out first)
1173713701 M * daniel_hozac there are experimental alpha stage3s with baselayout 1.13 IIRC.
1173713801 M * hillie would the lack of 1.13 be causing my inability to emerge stuff on the vservers?
1173713838 M * daniel_hozac have you run emerge sync already?
1173713846 M * daniel_hozac what errors are you getting?
1173713904 M * hillie emerge sync on the vps?
1173713956 M * daniel_hozac yes.
1173713966 M * hillie with vesync or actually typing 'emerge --sync' inside the vps
1173713997 M * hillie i am under the impression that the latter is not supposed to work, since it shares the portage tree with the host. is that wrong?
1173714013 M * daniel_hozac have you configured sharing?
1173714026 M * daniel_hozac i.e. does your /etc/vservers/<guest>/fstab have those entries uncommented?
1173714061 M * hillie i didn't look, but they show up in df
1173714164 M * hillie yes they are uncommented
1173714215 M * daniel_hozac so what errors are you getting?
1173714296 M * hillie i will check when vesync is complete
1173714407 M * hillie we use vserver at work, but i didn't set it up. it works fine, but doesn't have the /usr/portage mounted .. but the guy who set it up says it is sharing the portage tree of the host
1173714417 M * hillie i'm confused by that.
1173714428 M * hillie if it's not mounted doesn't that mean it has to have its own tree?
1173714445 M * daniel_hozac how are you determining that it's not mounted?
1173714510 M * hillie with df
1173714520 M * hillie here's the error i get: !!! No package digest file found: /usr/portage/dev-util/ctags/files/digest-ctags-5.5.4-r2
1173714521 M * hillie !!! Type "ebuild foo.ebuild digest" to generate it.
1173714550 J * vds ~vds@83.137.121.153
1173714550 M * hillie i don't have access to his host
1173714557 M * vds hi all
1173714582 M * hillie hi
1173714591 M * daniel_hozac df, like mount, lies.
1173714638 M * vds I'm pretty new to vserver, I've just created a new vserver on my ubuntu edgy, it gets access to the netwrok but seems not to have any network adapter configuration... how can I access it from my main machine ? tnx!
1173714658 M * daniel_hozac execute ip a on the host.
1173714671 M * daniel_hozac you did assign it an address when you built the guest, right?
1173714685 M * vds daniel_hozac: no
1173714710 M * vds I'd like it to use dhcp
1173714714 M * daniel_hozac well, you should've.
1173714746 M * daniel_hozac DHCP isn't supported, as it doesn't really make much sense for servers (nonetheless, it will be implemented at some point, and it's possible to use it now with some hacking).
1173714828 M * vds daniel_hozac: so now I have to create a new one ?
1173714849 M * daniel_hozac a new what?
1173714857 M * vds a new vserver ?
1173714889 M * daniel_hozac no, you can change the configuration in /etc/vservers/<guest>/interfaces.
1173714912 M * hillie daniel, so why is my colleague's vps df lying while mine tells the truth? and why can't i emerge stuff?
1173714913 M * daniel_hozac just add a directory named e.g. 0 and put a file named ip with the IP address and one named dev with the interface it should be assigned to.
1173714935 J * yangx yang@static-ip-62-75-255-125.inaddr.intergenia.de
1173714959 M * daniel_hozac hillie: probably because you have it in the guest's fstab, and he doesn't.
1173714967 M * vds daniel_hozac: ok thanks :)
1173714987 M * hillie daniel, so it still shares it even if you don't have it in the guests fstab?
1173714998 M * daniel_hozac not by default, but you can mount it manually.
1173715022 M * hillie so that's a trivial difference then.
1173715144 J * stefani ~stefani@tsipoor.banerian.org
1173715227 M * hillie i can't find any stage3's with baselayout 1.13
1173715275 M * hillie latest seems to be 20060317.. 
1173715322 M * vds daniel_hozac: /etc/vservers/<guest>/interfaces seems to be a dir instead of a file..
1173715369 M * daniel_hozac vds: as i said...
1173715378 J * the_hydra ~mulyadi@125.164.98.12
1173715857 M * hillie daniel, did you see the error i posted?
1173716485 Q * vds Quit: Bye bye
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1173716748 J * pmenier ~pme@LNeuilly-152-22-72-5.w193-251.abo.wanadoo.fr
1173716777 M * pmenier hello all
1173716859 M * pmenier i post yesterday on the ml about a problem with patch-vs2.2.0-rc16 and kernel 2.6.20.2
1173717379 Q * hillie Quit: ircII EPIC5-0.3.2 -- Are we there yet?
1173717995 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1173718008 M * Bertl pmenier: please elaborate ...
1173718025 Q * Johnnie Remote host closed the connection
1173718118 J * Johnnie ~jdlewis@jdlewis.org
1173718533 M * pmenier sorry i'm at work..
1173718551 M * pmenier Bertl: did you see my post ?
1173718778 M * Bertl maybe, no email atm ...
1173718799 M * Bertl care to give me a short overview?
1173718846 M * pmenier yes : i compil the last kernel yesterday with patch vs220-rc16
1173718885 M * pmenier all seems to work fine during 2 hours then suddenly the kernel hangs
1173718904 M * Bertl no kernel message? panic or so?
1173718913 M * pmenier i couldn't use keyboard nor remote access
1173718950 M * pmenier yes : the kernel message is in my post on the ml. I can put it on a site because it's very long
1173718966 M * Bertl please put it on paste.linux-vserver.org
1173718967 M * the_hydra pmenier: rafb.net/paste?
1173718975 M * pmenier ok
1173719057 M * pmenier the post is done
1173719176 M * Bertl interesting ...
1173719179 J * bonbons ~bonbons@83.222.39.9
1173719250 M * pmenier yes very interesting .... but for you... I don't understand all :-)
1173719453 M * pmenier the last kernel i use and which runs fine is : 2.6.20-vs2.3.0.9
1173719487 M * Bertl I do not have the resources here to check the kernel code, but I'll do when I return home
1173719498 M * pmenier ok, no problem
1173719512 M * Bertl something in tty_devnum must have gone wrong ...
1173719977 J * cdrx ~legoater@cap31-3-82-227-199-249.fbx.proxad.net
1173720306 Q * dlezcano Read error: Connection reset by peer
1173720860 M * Bertl pmenier: had a short look at it, seems like a mainline issue/race .. will investigate later in more detail
1173720983 M * pmenier ok 
1173721118 M * pmenier if you need more info do not hesitate
1173721327 M * Bertl okay .. you have the kernel build tree at hand?
1173721557 M * pmenier yes
1173721652 M * Bertl okay, keep it, we will need it for checking ...
1173721682 M * pmenier okay but i will leave irc in a few minutes... I go home
1173721924 M * Bertl np, we'll chat later ...
1173721963 M * Bertl off for now .. back later ...
1173721969 M * pmenier ok i'll be back tomorrow. Thanks.
1173721972 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
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1173722403 J * Term_ ~user1@189.131.131.155
1173722516 P * Term_ 
1173722519 N * DoberMann DoberMann[PullA]
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1173724193 J * hillie ~alex@198.200.181.206
1173724236 N * DoberMann[PullA] DoberMann
1173724321 M * hillie hi, I just emerged baselayout-1.13.0_alpha12 onto a vserver that came with alpha5.. everything worked fine before with alpha5 but when I upgraded now when starting sshd it complains that it can't start lo.  I made a test vserver it seems that lo won't start up even with the alpha5 (although sshd does start up)
1173724378 M * hillie seems like a non-working lo would break a lot of stuff
1173724539 M * daniel_hozac hmm.
1173724546 M * daniel_hozac the net script should be getting replaced in a guest.
1173724572 M * daniel_hozac (could be that's for non-baselayout >= 1.13 though, i'm not really familiar with the recent Gentoo developments)
1173724691 M * hillie conf.d/net ? it's still the same as it is on a created guest
1173724716 M * hillie but the required etc-update for baselayout clobbered like 50 configs
1173724744 M * hillie should i just try to get baselayout-vserver working somehow on the guest?
1173724762 M * hillie i dunno if i wanna stick with alpha5
1173725090 M * daniel_hozac baselayout-vserver should work fine.
1173725174 M * hillie i dunno how to set it up tho, if i use the latest stage3 from the mirrors it doesn't give you a working vps.  at least for me
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1173725219 M * daniel_hozac works fine here, although i don't use a shared portage (as i only have the one Gentoo guest...)
1173725283 M * hillie are you using the file stage3-i686-20060317.tar.bz2 as the template?
1173725305 M * daniel_hozac s/i686/x86/, yes.
1173725316 M * hillie maybe i'll try that.
1173725351 M * daniel_hozac what happens if you run the suggested command?
1173725361 J * cryptronic ice@p54A3868E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
1173725499 M * hillie the vserver myguest build .... line from the howto?
1173725643 M * daniel_hozac no, the 16:48 < hillie> !!! Type "ebuild foo.ebuild digest" to generate it.
1173725760 M * hillie i didn't type it
1173725803 M * hillie i never had a problem building it on host and it shares the portage tree
1173726022 M * hillie if I run that command in the host it works for that particular ebuild
1173726059 M * hillie but it says the same thing for all packages
1173726087 M * daniel_hozac you can't run it in the guest?
1173726105 M * hillie it mounts /usr/portage as read only
1173726127 M * daniel_hozac ah.
1173726187 M * hillie maybe if it's not read only emerge generates the digest for it
1173726272 M * hillie but yea it doesn't work using the x86 tarball either. it works when I use the one that contains baselayout 1.13.0_alpha5 (it's one from one of the maintainer's blogs) but that one is alpha and it's not even the latest alpha
1173726314 M * daniel_hozac i guess you'll just have to wait for phreak`` or Hollow...
1173726330 M * Hollow pong?
1173726370 M * Hollow hillie: you need to prvide a dummy net dependency
1173726393 M * hillie hollow, how?
1173726403 M * Hollow see http://svn.linux-vserver.org/projects/util-vserver/browser/trunk/distrib/gentoo/net.vserver
1173726419 M * Hollow also look at http://svn.linux-vserver.org/projects/util-vserver/browser/trunk/distrib/gentoo/initpost
1173726423 M * hillie i actually found that online
1173726442 M * daniel_hozac (which should run automatically if you use -d gentoo)
1173726446 M * hillie in the irc logs.. i thought it was for old versions though
1173726496 M * hillie well it worked fine but then when i emerged baselayout 1.13.0_alpha10 it stopped working. must have changed something:\
1173726507 M * Hollow yeah, a lot has changed 
1173726564 M * hillie hollow, basically I have this problem: If I use the latest stage3 from the gentoo mirrors.. i can't emerge anything because it can't find the digest files.. if I emerge using the stage3 20071103 that was on one of the gentoo's maintainers blogs that has baselayout 1.13.0_alpha5 everything works
1173726597 M * Hollow hillie: yeah, they have been removed since the whole tree now uses Manifest2
1173726606 M * hillie if i can't get the latest version then i'd feel better with the 'stable' one, which seems to be baselayout-vserver
1173726616 M * Hollow you probably need to unpack a portage binary package manually
1173726631 M * hillie also, i'm sharing the portage tree with the host
1173726644 M * hillie and it mounts it read-only apparantly
1173726651 J * EvilDin ~Snake@BSN-77-83-28.dsl.siol.net
1173726656 M * Hollow yes, this is intended
1173726663 M * hillie yea it makes sense ;)
1173726708 M * hillie but it can't create digest files it seems. if i create them on the host then i can emerge it but it seems like something is broken on my setup
1173726718 M * hillie it = any package
1173726827 M * EvilDin i have kernel 2.6.19.3-vs2.2.0-rc13, what should i be aware when compiling the newest kernel from site?, i try once 2.6.20.1, but debian main server sshd didn't start, and i don't know why, guests on dediacted server all started just ok! Is there anything in kernel that i should change? please help!
1173726891 M * daniel_hozac nothing should've changed.
1173726927 M * EvilDin hm then how should i explain myself about why sshd on main server didn't start
1173726960 M * daniel_hozac well, why didn't it start?
1173727152 M * EvilDin there was some errors in auth.log: Feb 27 19:07:12 root45 getty[4062]: /dev/tty4: No such file or directory
1173727160 M * EvilDin and many erros like this
1173727183 M * EvilDin and seem that this was only problem
1173727187 M * EvilDin but i don't know wgy
1173727189 M * EvilDin why
1173727200 M * hillie daniel, do you know if he meant to unpack the portage binaries into the host or in the guest?
1173727240 M * hillie maybe its a udev issue?
1173727351 M * daniel_hozac Hollow would know better, as he's a Gentoo person :)
1173727527 M * hillie well he's gone now :)
1173727554 M * hillie evildin, maybe you messed up something with udev support when you recompiled the kernel
1173727568 M * daniel_hozac EvilDin: that has nothing to do with sshd...
1173727774 M * hillie this is a diff issue but i def need to solve this too..  I am running the vserver on a machine with two nics.. eth1 connected to cable, eth0 connected to my LAN. and sshd running on there.
1173727809 M * hillie I saw in the faq that you have sshd listen on the specific IP address to seperate it from the vserver ip, but I have to listen on the external IP, which changes with dhcp
1173727834 M * hillie obviously if the ip chagnes then the sshd_config would be invalid
1173727971 M * daniel_hozac could use a local IP address and NAT it.
1173728006 M * daniel_hozac (or sed it in your dhclient script)
1173728223 M * mjt or run it on a different port...
1173728276 M * hillie yea i'm using shorewall
1173728306 M * hillie mjt, what do you mean? i plan to run it on a different port anyway so this might work
1173728463 M * hillie i just did emerge -C baselayout, and then emerge baselayout-vserver .. such a nice feeling to know after it breaks i can just do vserver delete/build :)
1173728497 M * harry hahaaaaaaaa
1173728505 A * harry completely forgot to update the patch today!
1173728510 M * harry lets hope i find time tomorrow
1173728517 M * harry but i'm on a vmware course...
1173728535 M * hillie holy * it works! :)
1173728550 M * hillie well for now anyway 
1173728593 M * hillie the only prob with the ssh thing is I gotta fix it from home, coz i'm not at the actual machine right now and i'm pretty sure i'll end up locking myself out of the box
1173728628 M * harry lol
1173728945 J * ema ~ema@lart.galliera.it
1173729455 M * hillie well i just did that on my real vps and it worked, but not sure what problems will await in the future
1173729472 M * hillie thanks for the help guys
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1173730236 M * Hollow hillie: you have to unpack it in the guest, i guess the portage version in the stage3 is too old and does not understand the Manifest2 .. i should definitely release some new stages soon
1173730289 M * hillie hollow, i got it fixed
1173730319 M * hillie i just installed with the 20061103 stage3 and then unemerged baselayout and emerged baselayout-vserver and all works great now
1173730356 M * hillie i thought for sure it was gonna break it but it works.
1173730684 Q * hillie Quit: ircII EPIC5-0.3.2 -- Are we there yet?
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1173730791 M * EvilDin daniel_hozac: so what else could be the problem?
1173730828 M * daniel_hozac well, without knowing what the problem is, i can't really guess about causes...
1173730845 M * EvilDin hm i will do now again oldconfig
1173730850 M * EvilDin make oldconfig
1173730864 M * EvilDin i will ask if sth should be enabled or diabled
1173731169 J * dlezcano ~dlezcano@AToulouse-252-1-76-244.w81-49.abo.wanadoo.fr
1173731195 J * lilalinux ~plasma@dslb-084-058-209-090.pools.arcor-ip.net
1173731586 M * EvilDin am do i enable: Create deprecated sysfs files (SYSFS_DEPRECATED)
1173731650 M * EvilDin daniel_hozac: are you maybe here
1173731670 M * daniel_hozac whether or not you need that depends on your userspace.
1173731686 M * EvilDin i have enough space
1173731694 M * EvilDin so Yes
1173731766 M * EvilDin am where do i see Timer frequency
1173731825 M * daniel_hozac what?
1173731846 M * EvilDin i have ability to choose:
1173731846 M * EvilDin Timer frequency
1173731846 M * EvilDin 1. 100 HZ (HZ_100)
1173731846 M * EvilDin 2. 250 HZ (HZ_250)
1173731846 M * EvilDin 3. 300 HZ (HZ_300) (NEW)
1173731848 M * EvilDin > 4. 1000 HZ (HZ_1000)
1173731857 M * EvilDin do i choose 1000 Mhz
1173731872 M * daniel_hozac that's what your old config had.
1173731880 M * EvilDin aha ok
1173731914 M * EvilDin am: Alignment value to which kernel should be aligned (PHYSICAL_ALIGN) [0x100000], what do i choose here ?
1173731937 M * daniel_hozac did you read the help?
1173731944 M * daniel_hozac do you know what it is?
1173731958 M * EvilDin nope, i am just making: make oldconfig
1173731968 M * daniel_hozac to which question?
1173731992 M * EvilDin i am at line: Alignment value to which kernel should be aligned (PHYSICAL_ALIGN) [0x100000] (NEW)
1173732001 M * EvilDin but don't know what to do
1173732006 M * EvilDin do i just hit enter
1173732021 M * daniel_hozac if you don't know what it is, i don't see why not.
1173732068 M * EvilDin um do i need: Netfilter connection tracking support (NF_CONNTRACK_ENABLED) [N/m/y/?] (NEW)
1173732074 M * daniel_hozac do you?
1173732084 M * daniel_hozac i have no idea what you need.
1173732088 M * daniel_hozac you need to decide that.
1173732092 M * EvilDin just simple vserver
1173732102 M * EvilDin no special needs :D
1173732108 M * daniel_hozac none of these options are vserver related in any way.
1173732130 M * daniel_hozac just read the help text and decide if you need it.
1173732136 M * EvilDin but for good woking kernel, is this nessesery
1173732148 M * EvilDin um how do i access to help
1173732175 M * daniel_hozac you press ?.
1173732183 M * daniel_hozac like the message says.
1173732195 M * EvilDin can be used even in make oldconfig
1173732209 M * EvilDin cool
1173732210 M * EvilDin :d
1173732314 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1173732320 M * Bertl evening folks!
1173732336 M * EvilDin um i have enabled scsi support in what case i need support for: SCSI target support (SCSI_TGT)
1173732383 M * Bertl what does the kernel config help tell you?
1173732395 M * EvilDin if i need target drivers
1173732405 M * EvilDin i dunno if i need them, probably not
1173732508 J * gerrit ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1173732509 M * EvilDin ok i came to vservers config
1173732513 M * EvilDin do i enable: VServer Warnings ?
1173732551 M * daniel_hozac do you have any reason to disable it?
1173732559 M * EvilDin nope :)
1173734279 Q * yaboo Quit: Leaving
1173735318 M * EvilDin daniel_hozac: he he, thank you, now i compile and it works :)
1173735338 M * Bertl EvilDin: excellent!
1173735359 M * EvilDin but still dunno what was wrong last time
1173735368 M * EvilDin it only matters that now works :d
1173735389 M * Bertl well, you could compare the .configs ...
1173735420 M * EvilDin :)
1173735441 M * EvilDin i was so dhem afraid that again won't work
1173735452 M * EvilDin but i am very happy now
1173735471 M * EvilDin so thank you for all support here, guys here are great
1173735474 M * EvilDin now i go slepp
1173735494 M * EvilDin i hope we don't see soon her with new problems, i hope on seeing just for fun
1173735496 M * EvilDin bye
1173736157 J * DreamerC_ ~dreamerc@125-225-103-226.dynamic.hinet.net
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1173736378 Q * EvilDin Quit: AnacønÐa · "If you can't learn to do it well, you should learn to enjoy doing it badly"
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1173736568 M * hardwire b;eh
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1173738186 P * stefani I'm Parting (the water)
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1173738836 J * arachnist arachnist@088156185052.who.vectranet.pl
1173739303 M * Bertl wb arachnist!
1173739977 J * er ~yakker@aegis.CS.Princeton.EDU
1173740009 M * er hi all
1173740129 M * arachnist hi
1173740161 M * er does arachnist mean spiderman?
1173740182 M * arachnist nope
1173740192 M * er brave try
1173740634 M * Bertl but a google image search is interesting :)
1173740666 M * Bertl er: how's going?
1173740713 M * er Bertl, resolved those 2 problems
1173740735 M * er have 2 systems with vs + ns, someone is supposedly using them right now
1173740784 M * er i replaced every occurence of nx_check with nx_check(...) || is_it_the_same_namespace
1173740813 M * er and did something similar for dev_in_nx, af_in_nx etc.
1173740848 M * er Bertl, i see. it's an anagram, stupid me.
1173740937 M * er but someone who farms spiders would probably be caleld that too
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1173741093 J * DreamerC ~dreamerc@125-225-103-226.dynamic.hinet.net
1173741131 M * Bertl er: sounds cool (the netspace stuff), do you have a patch against a Linux-VServer kernel to look at?
1173741145 M * er no, but i can make one
1173741153 M * er there aren't a lot many changes
1173741159 M * er - the nx_check stuff
1173741198 M * er - some changes in namespaces that use PID_TYPEPID_REAL so that they can move devices into vserver processes
1173741242 M * er - some other minor things that I have written down somewhere
1173741284 M * er Do you have plans to sacrifice nids for namespaces some day?
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1173741583 J * TrueBrain truelight@openttd.org
1173741589 M * sid3windr openttd \o/
1173741627 Q * er Quit: Leaving
1173741887 J * calamari ~calamari@ip72-200-73-175.tc.ph.cox.net
1173741890 M * calamari hi
1173741925 A * calamari now has 2 video cards and is ready to try this again :)
1173742093 M * Bertl hehe :)
1173742111 J * prae ~benjamin@foxhound.sherpadown.net
1173742120 M * Bertl you will need the some caps (if you are not using fb devices)
1173742382 M * calamari "the some caps" ?
1173742389 M * calamari not sure what that is :)
1173742440 M * calamari afk, rebooting
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1173743597 P * cast 
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1173743809 J * shedi ~siggi@ftth-237-144.hive.is
1173743859 Q * gerrit Read error: Operation timed out