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1173578663 J * infowolfe ~infowolfe@c-67-164-195-129.hsd1.ut.comcast.net
1173578715 J * Johnnie ~jdlewis@jdlewis.org
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1173580618 J * |gargoyl| ~kvirc@h-72-245-237-223.cmbrmaor.covad.net
1173580637 M * Bertl welcome |gargoyl|!
1173580689 P * |gargoyl| 
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1173588433 J * Loki|muh loki@satanix.de
1173590063 M * Bertl okay, off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
1173590090 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
1173590201 J * DoberMann_ ~james@AToulouse-156-1-110-14.w90-30.abo.wanadoo.fr
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1173594577 J * Redimido ~gorv@189.169.94.162
1173594602 M * Redimido Hi
1173594688 M * Redimido I'm having a problem with vserver on Slackware + Kernel 2.8.18.5-vs2.0.3-rc1
1173594707 M * Redimido I want to run slackware guests inside this slackware machine
1173594729 M * Redimido but when I try to put an image I had for old style (1.x) vserver
1173594752 M * Redimido using the new style of /etc/vserver/myvserver
1173594755 M * Redimido it fails
1173594864 M * Redimido with an error on line 133 saying 
1173594893 M * Redimido /lib/util-vserver/vserver.start: line 133: /usr/bin/nice: No such file or directory
1173594927 M * Redimido I'm sure it's only some silly error from my side, but looking at that line
1173594934 M * Redimido I cannot find anything
1173594955 M * Redimido the same vserver works if I create a file with legacy configuration
1173594957 M * Redimido :S
1173595043 M * Redimido I have surfed the web and found only semi-automated installs on debian :-) but that's not what I need since this server already has slackware working
1173595050 M * Redimido pls give me a hand
1173595771 M * Redimido anyone?
1173596369 M * Redimido well, thanks...
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1173599018 J * Redimido ~gorv@189.169.94.162
1173599147 M * jkl Bertl_zZ: when you get a chance check out http://pastebin.com/896956.
1173600876 M * Redimido just for the record
1173600890 M * Redimido vserver on slackware host, trying to start a slackware guest
1173600944 M * Redimido a) modify /usr/bin/nice symbolic link to be static, going to /bin/nice
1173600995 M * Redimido b) context should have a number of 4 digits. less or more and I was unable to start it
1173601094 M * Redimido okay. vserver starts lighting fast now
1173601106 M * Redimido now, why I cannot ssh into it from the host
1173601111 M * Redimido ?
1173601114 M * Redimido anyone?
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1173605214 J * bonbons ~bonbons@83.222.38.146
1173607372 M * daniel_hozac jkl: what kernel?
1173611004 J * rob-84x^ ~rob@submarine.ath.cx
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1173620570 Q * fs Read error: Connection reset by peer
1173620588 J * fs fs@213.178.77.98
1173620662 J * shedi ~siggi@ftth-237-144.hive.is
1173622042 J * dreamind ~dreamind@C2107.campino.wh.tu-darmstadt.de
1173622658 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1173622661 M * Bertl morning folks!
1173623103 M * sid3windr moo Bertl 
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1173624545 M * Bertl jkl: any details regarding kernel?
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1173627415 J * SNy 8d069ad3d6@bmx-chemnitz.de
1173627688 M * matti Bertl: ;)
1173627895 J * cryptronic ~oli@p549CF36F.dip.t-dialin.net
1173627898 M * cryptronic hi all
1173627980 M * cryptronic nothing in /proc - not mounted? - what can i do against that?
1173628326 M * arachnist cat /etc/vservers/hive/fstab
1173628326 M * arachnist none    /proc           proc    defaults                0 0
1173628439 M * cryptronic oh so easy? :( thx :)
1173629661 J * AndrewLee ~andrew@flat.iis.sinica.edu.tw
1173629695 J * er ~sapan@pool-71-168-215-87.cmdnnj.fios.verizon.net
1173629776 J * shedi ~siggi@ftth-237-144.hive.is
1173630125 M * Bertl welcome er! AndrewLee!
1173630140 M * er hi Bertl
1173630207 M * Bertl how's the network testing going?
1173630370 M * er things are fine except for 2 issues
1173630395 M * Bertl let's hear ...
1173630406 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: the vlogin issue is still unresolved?
1173630447 M * er (i) /proc/net doesn't show up in guests when I do setattr -x --~hide /proc/net 
1173630450 J * pusling pusling@195.215.29.124
1173630476 M * er this doesn't seem to be an integration issue, AFAICS
1173630656 M * Bertl hmm, you can easily verify that by turning off the proc security
1173630679 M * Bertl (i.e. if linux vserver code causes this, it should become visible then)
1173630766 M * er Bertl: ok, i'll try that.
1173630775 M * Bertl (kernel config)
1173630789 M * er (ok)
1173630794 M * Bertl and the second one?
1173630828 M * er The other issue - CAP_NET_.* still doesn't let me run the corresponding programs inside the guest
1173630838 M * er corresponding functions
1173630846 M * Bertl like?
1173630862 M * Bertl btw, I'd suggest to do the following:
1173630869 M * er so I have CAP_NET_ADMIN in etc/vservers/<guest>/bcapabilities
1173630877 M * Bertl (you are using util-vserver, right?)
1173630880 M * er and i do an 'ip link down'
1173630883 M * er yes
1173630909 M * Bertl okay, probably the simplest way is to disable the entire chbind stuff
1173630942 J * FireEgl Proteus@2001:5c0:84dc:1:211:9ff:feca:b042
1173630957 M * Bertl you might either remove it from the scripts or replace the chbind and ncontext binaries with a dummy wrapper which knows how to do the chaining but ignores the network context setup completely
1173630992 M * Bertl i.e. when you are using the L2 stuff, you want to disable the network context
1173631029 M * Bertl of course, you will need the CAP_NET_* stuff, and maybe for some misguided calls CAP_SYS_ADMIN
1173631069 M * Bertl (those would be subject to correction, if they really exist)
1173631290 M * er hm, ok - i'll pulling vserver's ncontext/chbind stuff and tying it up with eric's L2 changes is on my TODO list. but if i remember right, i had trouble with this even on a vanilla VSERVER kernel.
1173631320 M * Bertl well, there are three different 'checks' involved
1173631335 M * Bertl 1) the normal vanilla kernel checks (caps)
1173631361 M * Bertl 2) the Linux-VServer capability mask/ccaps/flags (per xid)
1173631381 M * Bertl 3) the Linux-VServer network checks (IP in network context)
1173631407 M * Bertl basically all of them can disallow a network specific manipulation
1173631469 M * er Ok, and how does (3) apply to devices?
1173631542 M * er that is, if I run ip link .* , is there a check for the device/its IP being in network context?
1173631601 M * Bertl yes
1173631611 M * Bertl the check is basiccally this:
1173631643 M * Bertl does the device carry an IP assigned to the network context? if so, then it is considered visible, otherwise it is unaccessable
1173631675 M * er Bertl: ok, so then I need to look into chbind etc.:)
1173631736 M * er thanks for the info, though
1173633235 M * Bertl you're welcome!
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1173633300 J * ZLinux ~ZLinux@88.213.58.16
1173633759 J * michal` ~michal@www.rsbac.org
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1173634524 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p54B4EC1D.dip.t-dialin.net
1173634849 M * Bertl off for now ... back later ...
1173634853 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
1173636239 J * deeeee ~sdgsdg@p57B2D271.dip.t-dialin.net
1173636614 Q * deeeee 
1173636836 M * sannes Trying to start a vserver with ipv6 I get the error: Broadcast can be set only for IPv4 addresses
1173636881 M * sannes but I only have a dev and ip in the interfaces/1/ directory ..
1173637471 J * tuxmania ~bonbons@83.222.39.9
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1173639094 N * DoberMann[PullA] DoberMann
1173640167 J * ema ~ema@lart.galliera.it
1173640834 M * daniel_hozac Bertl_oO: yes.
1173640861 M * daniel_hozac sannes: http://people.linux-vserver.org/~dhozac/p/uv/experimental/delta-ipv6-fix01.diff
1173641090 J * rob-84x^ ~rob@submarine.ath.cx
1173641606 M * derjohn daniel_hozac, delta-ipv6-fix01.diff ? A needed fix, or just a test? 
1173641628 M * derjohn (I didnt follow ... back from holiday since 1h ... )
1173641978 M * daniel_hozac needed.
1173641988 M * daniel_hozac (i think, i haven't received any feedback yet)
1173642794 M * derjohn daniel_hozac, does it patch the kernel or the utils ?
1173642807 M * daniel_hozac utils, thus the p/uv in the URL ;)
1173642808 M * derjohn it patches vserver.functions ...
1173642818 M * derjohn ah, lart me, yes.
1173642835 M * derjohn so, maybe a hint for micah or ola ....
1173642877 M * daniel_hozac it'll be in 0.30.213.
1173642882 M * daniel_hozac (if it fixes the problem)
1173643004 M * derjohn daniel_hozac, isnt it time in increment the vsersion counter to 0.31 ? 1/1000 is kinda 'ridiculous counter' or ? I would also question why the util set is called "alpha". corerct would be "utils 2.x", as nothing else with run with vserver 2.x  , nor ?
1173643039 M * daniel_hozac legacy utils should still work with the correct settings in the kernel.
1173643075 M * daniel_hozac 0.x is IMHO reserved for the legacy utils.
1173643094 M * daniel_hozac and i don't see them getting updated any time soon.
1173643101 M * daniel_hozac (i.e. at all, ever again :))
1173643121 M * daniel_hozac the reason it's called alpha is because in some ways it still is.
1173643147 M * daniel_hozac the ABI/API is broken with basically every release. sometimes the configuration format is changed (e.g. schedule file).
1173643238 M * derjohn but, we have non-rc, non-alpha, non-beta releases of the vserver patch (called stable) and cant still provide a stable mgmt tool ?
1173643328 M * daniel_hozac but i don't think we advise people to use the stable kernel patch :)
1173643351 T * daniel_hozac http://linux-vserver.org/ | latest stable 2.0.2.1, 2.0.3-rc1, 2.2.0-rc16, devel 2.3.0.11, stable+grsec 2.0.2.1, 2.2.0-rc15 | util-vserver-0.30.212 | libvserver-1.0.2 & vserver-utils-1.0.3 | He who asks a question is a fool for a minute; he who doesn't ask is a fool for a lifetime -- share the gained knowledge on the Wiki, and we'll forget about the minute ;)
1173643370 M * daniel_hozac note that "stable" depends on the definition here.
1173643428 M * derjohn rc16 ???
1173643432 M * daniel_hozac yes.
1173643432 M * derjohn argl !
1173643439 M * daniel_hozac was released yesterday.
1173643440 M * derjohn just began to compile ... 
1173643444 M * derjohn restarting
1173643446 M * derjohn kk
1173643459 M * derjohn hm
1173643465 M * derjohn daniel_hozac, recheck topic 
1173643487 M * derjohn latest stable ...  2.2.0-rc16 ....  stable+grsec ... 2.0.2.1, 2.2.0-rc15 ?
1173643496 M * derjohn ah
1173643508 M * derjohn understood ... sorry .... !
1173643525 M * derjohn harry, time to update grsec branch !
1173644875 J * FireEgl ~FireEgl@2001:5c0:84dc:1:211:9ff:feca:b042
1173645389 M * sannes daniel_hozac: it solved my problem, hurray! :)
1173645417 M * daniel_hozac sannes: okay, thanks.
1173645433 M * sannes (and thanks of course)
1173645574 M * harry yes dear
1173645624 A * harry checks for diff
1173645878 M * harry not so easy
1173645880 M * harry no time right now
1173645884 M * harry will do it later
1173645944 M * daniel_hozac not so easy? interdiff really isn't hard to use...
1173645982 M * harry i know
1173645988 M * harry but there are some rejects
1173645990 M * harry and...
1173645996 M * harry Hunk #1 succeeded at 402 (offset 137 lines).
1173645998 M * harry things like that...
1173646003 M * harry now normally, that's no problem
1173646009 M * harry but 137 lines is a lot...
1173646019 M * harry i just hope it's the correct "fix"
1173646028 M * harry so i have to check them all
1173646059 M * daniel_hozac rejects?
1173646080 N * DoberMann DoberMann[ZZZzzz]
1173646152 M * harry yes
1173646158 M * harry a few... (2)
1173646166 M * harry 1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file include/asm-i386/elf.h.rej
1173646172 M * harry which... i know
1173646182 M * harry grsec's segmexec task_size stuff
1173646187 M * harry 1 out of 3 hunks FAILED -- saving rejects to file kernel/signal.c.rej
1173646219 M * harry that one , i know it too... have to look into that... i know the problem there too (grsec changed / simplified the check)
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1173647740 M * arachnist is there a way to swap places between a running vserver and host? (no, pivot_root is not an option)
1173647771 J * _dmax ~semaj@bl9-230-70.dsl.telepac.pt
1173647798 M * daniel_hozac to make a guest the host?
1173647814 M * arachnist yup, and make the host a guest
1173647856 M * daniel_hozac none that i know of.
1173647871 M * daniel_hozac doesn't really make much sense as a host needs hardware related scripts and such.
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1173647930 M * arachnist hrm, right
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