1173399131 Q * duckx Remote host closed the connection 1173399327 Q * ex charon.oftc.net unununium.oftc.net 1173399328 Q * cohan_ charon.oftc.net unununium.oftc.net 1173399328 Q * jkl charon.oftc.net unununium.oftc.net 1173399328 Q * brcc_ charon.oftc.net unununium.oftc.net 1173399378 J * brcc_ bruce@i.am.someasshole.com 1173399378 J * jkl 3VCgv8fEI1@c-67-173-253-237.hsd1.co.comcast.net 1173399378 J * cohan_ ~cohan@koniczek.de 1173399378 J * ex ex@81.219.196.129 1173401211 Q * dna Quit: Verlassend 1173401871 N * Bertl_oO Bertl 1173403377 Q * hallyn Quit: leaving 1173406371 Q * softi42 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1173407070 J * softi42 ~softi@p549D65F5.dip.t-dialin.net 1173408014 Q * ZLinux Remote host closed the connection 1173409145 J * micah_ ~micah@micah.riseup.net 1173409145 Q * micah Read error: Connection reset by peer 1173409871 Q * Piet Quit: Piet 1173410494 M * Bertl okay, off to bed now .. have a good one everyone! 1173410499 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1173411075 Q * weasel Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1173412149 N * micah_ micah 1173413293 Q * ensc Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1173413482 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p54B4FAD3.dip.t-dialin.net 1173415115 N * _mcp mcp 1173417399 J * DoberMann_ ~james@AToulouse-156-1-18-97.w86-196.abo.wanadoo.fr 1173417505 Q * DoberMann[ZZZzzz] Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1173419673 Q * pflanze Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1173424808 Q * sladen Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1173425287 N * DoberMann_ DoberMann 1173426643 J * meandtheshel1 ~markus@85-124-38-49.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at 1173426701 J * DavidS ~david@chello062178045213.16.11.tuwien.teleweb.at 1173427238 J * dna ~naucki@p54BCE419.dip.t-dialin.net 1173428836 J * FireEgl Atl-NA@adsl-61-136-122.bhm.bellsouth.net 1173429326 N * DoberMann DoberMann[PullA] 1173430169 J * cdrx ~legoater@blueice2n1.uk.ibm.com 1173430773 Q * _are_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1173430896 J * weasel weasel@asteria.debian.or.at 1173431207 Q * DavidS Quit: Leaving. 1173431882 J * id23 ~id@203.177.252.98 1173431888 N * DoberMann[PullA] DoberMann 1173431905 M * id23 greetings from Manila :) 1173431947 J * dlezcano ~dlezcano@blueice4n2.uk.ibm.com 1173432559 M * matti id23: :) 1173433260 Q * FireEgl Quit: ... 1173433836 J * FireEgl Proteus@2001:5c0:84dc:1:211:9ff:feca:b042 1173433838 J * yang ~yang@yang.sponsor.oftc.net 1173435071 M * dev-zero is vserver+selinux still a non-working combination? 1173435335 J * boci^ ~boci@195.228.70.5 1173435338 M * boci^ hi 1173435355 M * dev-zero and where do I find infos about the changes/big differences between version 2.3 and 2.2 ? 1173435358 M * dev-zero hi boci^ 1173435440 Q * FireEgl Quit: ... 1173435442 M * dev-zero btw, the news on the homepage are a bit out-dated 1173436316 M * daniel_hozac how so? 1173437269 J * sladen paul@starsky.19inch.net 1173437565 J * lilalinux ~plasma@80.69.41.3 1173438110 Q * cdrx Read error: Connection reset by peer 1173438128 Q * id23 Quit: Leaving 1173439324 M * dev-zero daniel_hozac: or not? latest development is announced as 2.1, but there's 2.3? 1173441216 J * Admin ~y@84.123.60.108.dyn.user.ono.com 1173441219 P * Admin 1173441951 J * cdrx ~legoater@cap31-3-82-227-199-249.fbx.proxad.net 1173442747 Q * shedi Quit: Leaving 1173444650 M * bXi help! 1173444655 M * bXi they removed the vserver-new command :( 1173444682 M * daniel_hozac dev-zero: there hasn't been a release of 2.3 yet. 1173444701 M * daniel_hozac bXi: vserver ... build. 1173444710 M * dev-zero daniel_hozac: ah, ok 1173444728 M * dev-zero daniel_hozac: is there a document about the difference between 2.2 and 2.3 ? 1173444741 M * daniel_hozac as 2.3 is highly experimental at this point, no. 1173444801 M * dev-zero daniel_hozac: and selinux+vserver doesn't work, right? 1173444818 M * daniel_hozac "doesn't work" meaning what, exactly? 1173444846 M * bXi how should i translate this command into the new way 1173444848 M * bXi vserver-new open-exchange --context 1705 --hostname open-exchange stage3 stage3-i686-20060317.tar.bz2 x86 1173444849 M * daniel_hozac i'm rather certain that we don't break SELinux, so using it should just be a matter of creating the correct policy. 1173444887 M * daniel_hozac bXi: something like vserver ... build -m template ... -- -t stage3-... -d gentoo should do the trick. 1173444963 M * dev-zero daniel_hozac: ok. I'm just asking because in some howtos (fedora, centos), it is recommended to turn off selinux 1173444969 M * dev-zero bXi: open-xchange??? 1173444974 M * bXi ya 1173444975 M * dev-zero bXi: on gentoo? 1173444977 M * bXi ya 1173444982 M * dev-zero bXi: the ebuild in the tree? 1173444985 M * bXi no 1173444993 M * dev-zero bXi: CVS version? 1173444996 M * bXi dunno yet 1173445006 Q * yang Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1173445006 M * dev-zero bXi: well, the ebuild in the tree is broken 1173445011 M * bXi i know :p 1173445024 M * dev-zero bXi: good, you can use the one in my overlay, if you want 1173445031 M * dev-zero bXi: besides the webmail-stuff, it should work 1173445045 M * dev-zero bXi: but it needs baselayout-1.13, which is still p.masked 1173445055 M * bXi hmmmm 1173445060 M * dev-zero bXi: unless it's only for testing, then you can start the servers manually, without the init.d-script 1173445062 M * bXi the webmail stuff is kind of important for what i need 1173445070 M * dev-zero hmpf 1173445092 M * dev-zero bXi: if you can wait until the end of next week, I could test it 1173445093 M * bXi i could look into your overlay to see why it doesnt work tho 1173445098 M * bXi sure 1173445101 M * dev-zero bXi: that would be great :) 1173445105 M * bXi i need to fix tomcat and all that stuff 1173445107 M * dev-zero because I don't use it 1173445112 M * dev-zero bXi: fix? 1173445117 M * bXi s/fix/install/ 1173445121 M * dev-zero ah 1173445274 M * daniel_hozac dev-zero: yes, because nobody has bothered to figure out what the correct policy is. 1173445426 J * yarihm ~yarihm@whitehead2.nine.ch 1173445828 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1173445832 M * Bertl morning folks! 1173445981 M * dev-zero hi Bertl 1173445988 M * dev-zero daniel_hozac: ok, thanks :) 1173447699 J * ZLinux ~ZLinux@88.213.57.11 1173447817 M * Bertl wb yarihm! ZLinux! 1173447841 M * ZLinux Bertl, hello thanks :) 1173447925 M * ZLinux bbl 1173447951 M * Bertl k 1173448689 J * ema ~ema@lart.galliera.it 1173449001 Q * marl Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1173449168 M * Bertl wb ema! 1173449419 M * matti Hello B! 1173449419 M * matti ;] 1173449533 M * Bertl hey m! 1173449892 Q * gab Quit: Leaving 1173451578 M * matti :) 1173452574 J * hallyn ~xa@adsl-75-2-83-129.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net 1173452942 Q * Bertl Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1173453074 J * Bertl herbert@IRC.13thfloor.at 1173454473 Q * michal` Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1173454871 J * michal` ~michal@www.rsbac.org 1173455821 J * marl ~matt@84.92.193.226 1173455942 M * Bertl welcome marl! 1173457547 J * yang ~yang@yang.sponsor.oftc.net 1173458173 J * stefani ~stefani@tsipoor.banerian.org 1173458638 M * Bertl wb yang! stefani! 1173458649 M * yang hi Bertl 1173458664 M * stefani hola 1173459644 J * Johnsie ~jdlewis@jdlewis.org 1173459727 Q * Johnnie Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1173459810 Q * ema Quit: leaving 1173460728 M * Bertl nap attack ... back later 1173460730 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1173460853 N * ZLinux zLinux 1173461566 N * DoberMann DoberMann[PullA] 1173461816 J * phedny_ ~mark@ip56538143.direct-adsl.nl 1173462112 J * phedny__ ~mark@ip56538143.direct-adsl.nl 1173462167 Q * phedny Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1173462256 J * FireEgl Proteus@2001:5c0:84dc:1:211:9ff:feca:b042 1173462312 Q * phedny_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1173462608 Q * yarihm Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1173463327 N * DoberMann[PullA] DoberMann 1173463596 M * Guy- if I have a 32bit vserver on a 64bit host, should I use linux32 when entering it? 1173463604 M * Guy- (or when starting something in it?) 1173463655 M * daniel_hozac no. 1173463667 M * daniel_hozac you should've set that in the configuration. 1173463715 M * daniel_hozac (but that shouldn't be required) 1173464211 J * duckx ~Duck@tox.dyndns.org 1173464789 Q * lilalinux Remote host closed the connection 1173465140 Q * dlezcano Read error: Connection reset by peer 1173465933 M * Guy- what are the arguments for and against setting it? I imagine dpkg might be confused, and compilers and such... 1173466000 M * daniel_hozac i have no idea. i've never had any problems not setting it. 1173471046 J * the-me ~me@p548ABBA8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1173471108 M * the-me hi. how can I set the time of my vservers correctly? At the hostserver ntpdate actualize the time. on a vserver: Fr 9. Mär 20:11:17 UTC 2007 at the hostserver: Fr 9. Mär 21:11:36 CET 2007. the hostserver one ist correct 1173471150 M * daniel_hozac the time looks correct to me, assuming you ran those commands with 19 seconds between. 1173471168 M * the-me its the wrong hour :) 1173471170 M * daniel_hozac you just haven't set the timezone correctly. 1173471191 M * the-me and I have to set them in /etc/timezone, correct? 1173471201 M * daniel_hozac yep. 1173471209 M * daniel_hozac no i mean, /etc/localtime. 1173471216 M * the-me there stands the same (Europe/Berlin) 1173471227 M * the-me localtime seems to be binary 1173471229 M * daniel_hozac yes. 1173471245 M * daniel_hozac it's a copy/symlink of the correct file in /usr/share/zoneinfo. 1173471252 J * shedi ~siggi@ftth-237-144.hive.is 1173471254 M * daniel_hozac in your case, /usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe/Berlin. 1173471390 M * the-me it's not a symlink, so I've to copy the usr/share/zoneinfo one only to etc? 1173471449 M * daniel_hozac using a symlink should be fine for guests. 1173471533 M * the-me ahhh, thanks :) 1173471581 M * the-me and for what is then the etc/timezone? I thought it would choose then the right one out of this file 1173471595 M * daniel_hozac no idea. 1173471732 M * the-me looks good? ;) 1173471751 M * daniel_hozac i suppose so. 1173473234 J * infowolfe ~infowolfe@c-67-164-195-129.hsd1.ut.comcast.net 1173473234 Q * _jthm_ Read error: Connection reset by peer 1173473614 J * Alteisen ~daniel@gtso-4db52060.pool.einsundeins.de 1173473634 M * Alteisen hi @all 1173473657 M * daniel_hozac hello 1173473718 M * Alteisen i need some inspiration for vservers on a dual nic server 1173473737 M * daniel_hozac what? 1173473739 M * Alteisen how to separate those vservers from each other 1173473761 M * daniel_hozac separate them how? 1173473780 M * Alteisen my intension is some kind of firewall 1173473824 M * Alteisen my server has to network cards 1173473827 M * daniel_hozac so you want to firewall the guests from eachother? 1173473836 M * Alteisen one is connected to my dsl router 1173473858 M * Alteisen the other card should connect to an access point 1173473893 M * Alteisen i use 192.168.1.0/24 for my private network with the dsl router 1173473909 M * Alteisen and 192.168.2.0/24 for the access point network 1173473943 M * Alteisen i would like to have internal, private vservers and a public vserver in 192.168.2.0/24 1173473987 M * Alteisen the public vserver should be the only host of that network, that might access the internet via the dsl-router 1173474028 M * Alteisen but if i disable routing on the host, the public vserver still reaches the router i.e. with ping. 1173474082 M * Alteisen daniel_hozac: yes, i would like to keep my vservers apart from each other, espacially those from diffrent networks 1173474119 M * daniel_hozac iptables should work fine for that. 1173474192 M * Alteisen where do packets from my guests show up first? 1173474207 M * daniel_hozac hmm? 1173474221 M * Alteisen input, forward, or output? 1173474253 M * daniel_hozac depends on what kind of packet it is. outbound packets obviously go through OUTPUT first. 1173474257 M * daniel_hozac same as with Linux. 1173474463 M * Alteisen my problem is, that i have a basic understanding of packet filtering, and also basic understanding of vserver. my thougt was, that if i have vserver-guest 192.168.2.11 and routing is switched of on the host with one leg in 192.168.1.0/24 and the other in 192.168.2.0/24, the vserver-guest will not be able to reach 192.168.1.1... but it allways does. 1173474549 M * daniel_hozac what does "routing switch off" mean? 1173474618 M * Alteisen echo 0 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward 1173474669 M * daniel_hozac guests do not use forwarding at all. 1173474689 N * DoberMann DoberMann[ZZZzzz] 1173474695 M * daniel_hozac just like a regular Linux box doesn't use forwarding for locally generated packets. 1173474847 M * Alteisen so by switching off routing on the host, i will just cut off all other clients of 192.168.2.0/24 from 192.168.1.0/24, but they can still reach the vserver 192.168.2.11? 1173474886 M * daniel_hozac s/routing/forwarding/, yep. 1173474990 M * Alteisen that sounds easier as expected, and i might think about the sense of additional firewall rules in my configuration 1173475104 Q * hallyn Quit: leaving 1173475165 J * bonbons ~bonbons@83.222.38.146 1173475365 M * Alteisen btw, after playing around a bit with linux-vserver, i am beginning to love it. linux-vserver even makes sense, when there is only one system running on the host. 1 system runs production, a testing systems runs when needed, and a backup system is at hands at worst case :) 1173475404 M * Alteisen and the patch to the kernel is no big deal, at all. 1173475800 M * Alteisen daniel_hozac: thanks for your help, i guess that i can proceed now with my plans 1173475819 M * daniel_hozac you're welcome! 1173475868 M * Alteisen i'll be back - with further questions probably, on my next visit here ;) 1173475905 M * Alteisen bye 1173475921 Q * Alteisen Quit: ( sleep mode ) 1173477312 Q * shedi Quit: Leaving 1173478140 M * Guy- what's a good way to make plug and play usb storage work in a vserver (actually a 'vdesktop')? 1173478156 J * nayco ~nayco@lns-bzn-29-82-248-249-161.adsl.proxad.net 1173478163 P * nayco 1173478167 J * nayco ~nayco@lns-bzn-29-82-248-249-161.adsl.proxad.net 1173478196 P * nayco 1173478469 Q * the-me Remote host closed the connection 1173478967 J * derjohn2 ~aj@adsl-dynamic-242-6.deep.ch 1173479311 M * daniel_hozac Guy-: mount it from the host? 1173479455 M * Guy- daniel_hozac: like vnamespace ... mount? 1173480530 Q * derjohn2 Quit: Verlassend 1173481612 Q * dna Quit: Verlassend 1173482013 P * stefani I'm Parting (the water) 1173484211 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving