1172966403 M * daniel_hozac you know you have to rerun lilo every time you change the config, right? 1172966415 M * Svan i reboot it 1172966417 M * Svan :D 1172966424 M * Svan added and reboot 1172966428 M * daniel_hozac yes, but before anything will change, you have to run lilo. 1172966435 M * Svan Fatal: open /initrd.img: No such file or directory 1172966436 M * Svan nice 1172966461 M * Svan but it is on /initrd.img 1172966542 Q * DreamerC Quit: leaving 1172966544 M * Svan Fatal: open /dev/md1/initrd.img: Not a directory 1172966545 M * Svan lol 1172966560 J * DreamerC ~dreamerc@125-225-101-249.dynamic.hinet.net 1172966622 M * Svan anyone have any ideea 1172966626 M * Svan how to make lilo to work? 1172966678 M * daniel_hozac if you don't know, why do you use it? 1172966690 M * Svan because i whant to learn how to know it 1172966717 M * daniel_hozac but why? AFAIK lilo isn't the default boot loader in any distribution anymore. 1172966720 M * baldy parted look crazy 1172966953 M * baldy strange 1172966956 M * baldy Minor Start End Filesystem Flags 1172966956 M * baldy 1 0.000 150593.655 ext3 1172966976 M * baldy calculated in nodes/bits/byts? 1172967014 M * baldy resize 1 0.000 10GB who many (what ever) are 10GB? ;) 1172967046 M * daniel_hozac huh? 1172967066 M * baldy parted ;) 1172967077 M * baldy thats what parted want to know 1172967157 M * daniel_hozac i'm not understanding what you're trying to say. 1172967179 M * baldy i dont understand what start/end exactly is 1172967196 M * daniel_hozac so, read the manual? 1172967232 M * baldy ahhhh 1172967242 M * baldy mb i hope 1172967243 M * baldy hehe 1172967657 M * baldy mh parted can resize only ext2 filesystems? 1172967944 M * daniel_hozac sounds plausible. probably have to be unmounted as well. 1172967952 M * baldy it is 1172968010 M * baldy (parted) resize 1 0.031 20480.00 1172968010 M * baldy No Implementation: This ext2 filesystem has a rather strange layout! Parted can't resize this (yet). 1172968048 M * baldy ahhh 1172968057 M * baldy sarge has a old parted version 1172968163 Q * xp_prg Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1172968245 M * baldy sid is experimental? 1172968519 M * daniel_hozac sid is unstable, as always. 1172968531 M * daniel_hozac (assuming i got the Debian-lingo down) 1172968618 M * Wonka correct 1172972478 Q * softi42 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1172973079 J * softi42 ~softi@p549D6A45.dip.t-dialin.net 1172973388 Q * tzafrir_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1172976222 J * yarihm ~yarihm@84-75-102-37.dclient.hispeed.ch 1172977333 Q * cehteh Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1172977389 J * PowerKe ~tom@d54C13E4B.access.telenet.be 1172977462 Q * yarihm Quit: Leaving 1172977466 J * grobie_ ~chatzilla@site.lycos.de 1172977613 Q * grobie Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1172977614 N * grobie_ grobie 1172978958 J * shedi ~siggi@ftth-237-144.hive.is 1172981139 Q * ensc Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by ensc_)) 1172981149 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p54B4D683.dip.t-dialin.net 1172982692 Q * Svan 1172983007 J * tzafrir_laptop ~tzafrir@62.90.10.53 1172983151 Q * Aiken Remote host closed the connection 1172983336 J * Aiken ~james@ppp216-125.lns2.bne1.internode.on.net 1172983395 M * lylix daniel_hozac, Bertl: got an interesting issue, maybe you guys can assist... 1172984258 J * _dmax ~semaj@81.193.57.66 1172984600 Q * dmax Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1172984603 N * _dmax dmax 1172986123 J * mire ~mire@155-167-222-85.adsl.verat.net 1172988102 N * DoberMann[ZZZzzz] DoberMann[PullA] 1172988307 J * cehteh ~ct@pipapo.org 1172989581 Q * m`m`h Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1172990629 Q * tzafrir_laptop Remote host closed the connection 1172991699 J * m`m`h ~simba@deb30.mgts.by 1172993281 J * DoberMann_ ~james@AToulouse-156-1-28-122.w81-49.abo.wanadoo.fr 1172993377 Q * DoberMann[PullA] Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1172994483 J * ZLinux ~ZLinux@88.213.57.11 1172997253 Q * michal` Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1172997422 J * dna ~naucki@p54BCFC76.dip.t-dialin.net 1172997459 J * phreak`` ~phreak``@deimos.barfoo.org 1172997585 J * michal` ~michal@www.rsbac.org 1172998538 J * bonbons ~bonbons@83.222.38.146 1173000513 Q * cdrx Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1173002071 J * meandtheshel1 ~markus@85-125-230-73.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at 1173002165 M * daniel_hozac lylix: oh? 1173003193 Q * mire Quit: Leaving 1173003360 Q * Aiken Quit: Leaving 1173003470 J * mire ~mire@155-167-222-85.adsl.verat.net 1173004204 Q * infowolfe Read error: Connection reset by peer 1173005370 J * me ~me@p548A8B75.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1173005433 N * me the-me 1173005451 M * the-me good morning. I've got a serious problem here with the network interfaces 1173005476 A * dna slaps the-me 1173005479 M * the-me after a hostserver restart, the interfaces are wrong, here's the output: http://nopaste.linux-dev.org/?1255 1173005485 M * the-me oh, hi dna ;) 1173005523 M * the-me eth0:5 was normaly on this virtualserver eth0 1173005588 M * daniel_hozac if you restart the guest, you'll see that. 1173005617 M * daniel_hozac i assume you have configured this IP address whereever your distribution thinks it's appropriate to do so, in addition to in the guest configuration, right? 1173005999 M * the-me daniel_hozac, curious, I restarted the vserver and the problem is solved, without errors 1173006029 M * the-me is maybe a sleep of 15 seconds between each vserver start on starting the hostsystem not enough? 1173006071 M * daniel_hozac what? 1173006132 M * the-me the interface now: http://nopaste.linux-dev.org/?1256 1173006147 M * daniel_hozac right, as i said. 1173006171 M * the-me if the hostserver restarts, my vserver daemon starts all vserver with a delay of 15 seconds, could be there the error? 1173006193 M * daniel_hozac no. the default initscript will start guests in parallell even. 1173006204 M * daniel_hozac 11:53 < daniel_hozac> i assume you have configured this IP address whereever your distribution thinks it's appropriate to do so, in addition to in the guest configuration, right? 1173006208 M * daniel_hozac would be the problem. 1173006218 M * the-me no. the default initscript will start guests in parallell even. <--- doesn't work 1173006248 M * daniel_hozac yes, it does. 1173006276 M * the-me not there (etch server), hmm, I will go eat now first ;) 1173006315 M * daniel_hozac well, Debian has their own initscript. 1173006378 M * daniel_hozac and if it doesn't work, i assume you've already filed a bug? 1173007213 J * infowolfe ~infowolfe@c-67-164-195-129.hsd1.ut.comcast.net 1173007293 M * the-me daniel_hozac, you mean, that I've configured the interface on the hostserver, right? 1173007309 M * the-me I don't understand your sentence :( 1173007322 M * daniel_hozac yes. 1173007399 M * the-me daniel_hozac, hmm in tutorial stands, that I've to configure the ip on the hostsystem and then I've only to edit the /etc/vservers/xxx/interfaces/ 1173007407 M * the-me maybe deprecated? 1173007425 M * daniel_hozac i have no idea what tutorial you're referring to. 1173007456 M * daniel_hozac but if you create a dev file in /etc/vservers//interfaces/X, the utils will handle the assignment. 1173007558 J * JAavi J_@61.171.33.223 1173007568 M * JAavi ★★★★★*****六年历史，不用注册看全部内容，网络第一免费成人论坛 <<3==65论坛>> 更换新域名，赶快进入：http://615685.bbs365.info 1173007663 M * lylix daniel_hozac: g/m 1173007770 M * daniel_hozac morning. 1173007780 M * nebuchadnezzar hello 1173007849 M * JAavi i still need two click to activate my account, someone can save me for a good day? 1173007868 M * JAavi i am doing linux, gentoo 1173007886 M * lylix so... problem i mentioned deals w/ pam breaking w/ a centos/fedora guest on vcd system 1173007918 M * lylix same template works on util-vserver systems w/ same kernel fine, and also on the same box via simple chroot 1173007953 J * rob-84x^ ~rob@submarine.ath.cx 1173007967 M * daniel_hozac lylix: breaking how? 1173007972 M * lylix i have straces of both the working and broken systems, and the only diff that seems to stand out at this point is a few lines 1173008008 M * lylix ie. returns "System Error" for passwd command 1173008016 M * lylix and cannot SSH into the guest remotely 1173008057 M * lylix ok to just upload the strace to pastebin? 1173008064 M * daniel_hozac sure, or maybe even the diff. 1173008075 M * lylix k, 1 sec 1173008221 M * JAavi someone pls 1173008242 M * JAavi click me http://615685.bbs365.info i just want to activate account? 1173008297 M * daniel_hozac JAavi: please stop spamming. 1173008748 M * lylix http://paste.linux-vserver.org/1235 (1st part), http://paste.linux-vserver.org/1236 (2nd part) 1173008848 M * lylix a line that stands out at first look is 171 on the second paste, ie. umask(077) = 0 1173008864 M * JAavi i am not spamming i just want 2 more clicks to help activate it 1173008883 M * JAavi it's not virus, i am not cracker or professional spammer 1173008892 M * lylix on the working system, same call is at line 102, umask(077) = 022 1173008895 M * daniel_hozac JAavi: you're still spamming. 1173008945 M * lylix btw < is working sysem, > is broken 1173008953 P * JAavi 1173008974 M * daniel_hozac what is it that it's writing to the logs? 1173009022 M * lylix passwd(pam_unix)[3282]: password changed for root 1173009132 M * lylix pid is different from the example, but stands for all attempts 1173009146 M * daniel_hozac could you upload the entire traces too? 1173009154 M * lylix sure 1173009305 M * lylix also, whats totally bizzarre is this from /var/log/secure: 1173009401 M * lylix Mar 4 14:53:44 hostname sshd[27141]: Failed password for root from remote_IP port 43857 ssh2 1173009402 M * lylix Mar 4 11:53:44 hostname sshd[27142]: Failed password for root from remote_IP port 43857 ssh2 1173009402 M * lylix Mar 4 14:53:46 hostname sshd[27141]: Failed password for root from remote_IP port 43857 ssh2 1173009402 M * lylix Mar 4 11:53:46 hostname sshd[27142]: Failed password for root from remote_IP port 43857 ssh2 1173009402 M * lylix Mar 4 14:53:48 hostname sshd[27141]: Failed password for root from remote_IP port 43857 ssh2 1173009402 M * lylix Mar 4 11:53:48 hostname sshd[27142]: Failed password for root from remote_IP port 43857 ssh2 1173009402 M * lylix Mar 4 11:53:48 hostname sshd[27142]: Connection closed by remote_IP 1173009434 M * daniel_hozac is that when you're trying to log in? 1173009440 M * lylix the times reflect repsonses from both the host (11:5X) and the guest (14:5X) 1173009446 M * lylix yes, from a remote system 1173009468 M * daniel_hozac what timezone is the host/guest? 1173009486 M * lylix host = GMT 1173009491 M * lylix guest = MSK 1173009539 M * lylix brb, will upload the full straces separately 1173009548 M * daniel_hozac what capabilities do the guests have? 1173009685 M * lylix CHOWN 1173009686 M * lylix DAC_OVERRIDE 1173009686 M * lylix DAC_READ_SEARCH 1173009686 M * lylix FOWNER 1173009686 M * lylix FSETID 1173009686 M * lylix KILL 1173009686 M * lylix LEASE 1173009688 M * lylix NET_BIND_SERVICE 1173009688 M * lylix SETGID 1173009690 M * lylix SETUID 1173009690 M * lylix SYS_BOOT 1173009692 M * lylix SYS_CHROOT 1173009692 M * lylix SYS_PTRACE 1173009694 M * lylix SYS_TTY_CONFIG 1173009706 M * lylix ccaps: RAW_ICMP, SET_UTSNAME 1173009728 M * daniel_hozac so same for both of them? 1173009757 M * daniel_hozac and you're using the same guest root directory for both util-vserver and vcd? 1173009828 M * lylix well, testing on two systems, but yes, both centos installs are vdir = /vservers/centos 1173009927 M * lylix working guest bcaps: 1173009956 J * yarihm ~yarihm@84-75-102-37.dclient.hispeed.ch 1173009986 M * lylix differs inj that it has SETPCAP set 1173010039 M * lylix ccaps same 1173010063 M * daniel_hozac the different timestamps suggests there's a problem with the permissions on either the root directory or the /etc directory of the guest. 1173010183 M * daniel_hozac what does ls -ld / /etc /etc/localtime show on the problematic guest? 1173010274 M * lylix sh-3.00# ls -ld / /etc /etc/localtime 1173010274 M * lylix drwxr-xr-x 21 root root 608 Mar 4 15:10 / 1173010274 M * lylix drwxr-xr-x 30 root root 2656 Mar 4 15:10 /etc 1173010274 M * lylix -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 815 Mar 2 23:10 /etc/localtime 1173010295 M * daniel_hozac any ACLs or similar in place? 1173010326 M * lylix nope 1173010368 M * daniel_hozac so does su - nobody -s /bin/bash -c "cat /etc/localtime > /dev/null" work as expected? 1173010452 M * lylix su: incorrect password 1173010461 M * lylix its like pam is totally hosed 1173010526 M * lylix also worth mentioning, i did install a basic PAM setup from source in the problematic guest and at least got 'passwd' not to burp 1173010546 M * lylix this was a few days ago, wiped since then 1173010662 M * daniel_hozac how about using Bertl_oO's http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/TOOLS/setugid.c to execute stuff as nobody then? 1173010715 M * daniel_hozac or does vcd have something similar to util-vserver's vserver ... suexec? 1173010780 M * lylix just an exec to the best of my knowledge 1173010895 M * lylix sh-3.00# ./setugid -u 99 -g 99 whoami 1173010895 M * lylix nobody 1173011134 J * cdrx ~legoater@cap31-3-82-227-199-249.fbx.proxad.net 1173016310 J * jmcaricand ~kvirc@d83-179-191-45.cust.tele2.fr 1173017462 Q * jmcaricand Quit: KVIrc 3.2.4 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/ 1173018030 M * matti :-) 1173018795 J * sc0tt ~scott@209.51.169.84 1173020150 Q * Hunger Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1173022420 Q * ntrs__ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1173023380 J * kaner kaner@strace.org 1173024895 Q * FireEgl Remote host closed the connection 1173026222 Q * 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osmotic.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1173026222 Q * doener osmotic.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1173026222 Q * Bertl_oO osmotic.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1173026222 Q * tamitall osmotic.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1173026222 Q * eyck osmotic.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1173026222 Q * tokkee osmotic.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1173026222 Q * nou osmotic.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1173026262 J * ||Cobra|| ~cob@pc-csa01.science.uva.nl 1173026262 J * ex ex@81.219.196.129 1173026262 J * cohan_ ~cohan@koniczek.de 1173026262 J * jkl 3VCgv8fEI1@c-67-173-253-237.hsd1.co.comcast.net 1173026262 J * brcc_ bruce@i.am.someasshole.com 1173026262 J * Hollow ~hollow@styx.xnull.de 1173026262 J * shedi ~siggi@ftth-237-144.hive.is 1173026262 J * phreak`` ~phreak``@deimos.barfoo.org 1173026262 J * mire ~mire@155-167-222-85.adsl.verat.net 1173026262 J * infowolfe ~infowolfe@c-67-164-195-129.hsd1.ut.comcast.net 1173026262 J * Hunger Hunger.hu@Hunger.hu 1173026362 J * dmax ~semaj@81.193.57.66 1173026362 J * s0undt3ch ~s0undt3ch@80.69.34.154 1173026362 J * micah ~micah@micah.riseup.net 1173026362 J * mnemoc ~amery@kilo105.server4you.de 1173026362 J * nox ~nox@nox.user.oftc.net 1173026362 J * bj ~bj@insanefactory.com 1173026362 J * fosco_ fosco@konoha.devnullteam.org 1173026362 J * Adrinael adrinael@st12-127.tky.hut.fi 1173026362 J * matti matti@acrux.romke.net 1173026362 J * sladen paul@starsky.19inch.net 1173026362 J * sid3windr luser@bastard-operator.from-hell.be 1173026469 J * fs fs@213.178.77.98 1173026472 J * DoberMann_ ~james@AToulouse-156-1-28-122.w81-49.abo.wanadoo.fr 1173026472 J * grobie ~chatzilla@site.lycos.de 1173026472 J * DreamerC ~dreamerc@125-225-101-249.dynamic.hinet.net 1173026472 J * Johnnie ~jdlewis@jdlewis.org 1173026472 J * baldy ~baldy@pptp.dial.ipv6-network.de 1173026472 J * mountie ~mountie@trb229.travel-net.com 1173026472 J * Roey ~katz@h-69-3-4-130.mclnva23.covad.net 1173026472 J * neuralis ~krstic@solarsail.hcs.harvard.edu 1173026472 J * bXi bluepunk@irssi.co.uk 1173026472 J * Guy- DHSVGMWjSQ@chardonnay.math.bme.hu 1173026472 J * transacid ~transacid@transacid.de 1173026472 J * phedny ~mark@ip56538143.direct-adsl.nl 1173026472 J * virtuoso ~s0t0na@80.253.205.251 1173026472 J * TrueBrain truelight@openttd.org 1173026472 J * AndrewLee ~andrew@flat.iis.sinica.edu.tw 1173026472 J * doener ~doener@host.magicwars.de 1173026472 J * Bertl_oO herbert@IRC.13thfloor.at 1173026472 J * tamitall ~tam@gw.nettam.com 1173026472 J * eyck eyck@kuszelas.com 1173026472 J * tokkee tokkee@casella.verplant.org 1173026487 J * nou Chaton@causse.larzac.fr.eu.org 1173026489 J * spion ~bombadil@bofh.lx.se 1173026489 J * ard ~ard@goatse.kwaak.net 1173026544 J * FloodServ services@services.oftc.net 1173026793 J * kaner kaner@strace.org 1173026793 J * cdrx ~legoater@cap31-3-82-227-199-249.fbx.proxad.net 1173026793 J * yarihm ~yarihm@84-75-102-37.dclient.hispeed.ch 1173026793 J * rob-84x^ ~rob@submarine.ath.cx 1173026793 J * meandtheshel1 ~markus@85-125-230-73.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at 1173026793 J * bonbons ~bonbons@83.222.38.146 1173026793 J * michal` ~michal@www.rsbac.org 1173026793 J * dna ~naucki@p54BCFC76.dip.t-dialin.net 1173026793 J * ZLinux ~ZLinux@88.213.57.11 1173026793 J * cehteh ~ct@pipapo.org 1173026793 J * kir ~kir@swsoft-mipt-nat.sw.ru 1173026793 J * nadim ~nadim@10.252.186.81.lund.res.sta.perspektivbredband.net 1173026793 J * dev-zero ~TizianoMu@gw.ptr-80-238-132-170.customer.ch.netstream.com 1173026793 J * CHTEKK ~chtekk@62.48.110.172 1173026793 J * badari ~badari@bi01p1.co.us.ibm.com 1173027926 J * duckx ~Duck@tox.dyndns.org 1173028101 J * ntrs ~ntrs@68-188-55-120.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com 1173028921 M * daniel_hozac micah: ping 1173031328 M * micah daniel_hozac: hey 1173031370 M * daniel_hozac so why is it that the Debian package has its own initscript? /etc/default only? 1173031548 M * micah util-vserver provides an initscript that other OS' use? 1173031570 M * daniel_hozac hmm? 1173031605 M * micah i'm confused by your question :) 1173031627 M * daniel_hozac basically, why doesn't the Debian package use the vanilla initscripts 1173031643 M * micah the vanilla initscripts that are provided by util-vserver 1173031650 M * daniel_hozac exactly. 1173031695 M * micah i'm not sure, likely Ola created it before they existed? and perhaps there is some policy things that aren't included, letsee 1173031703 M * micah where are the vanilla ones? 1173031708 M * daniel_hozac really? i thought you wrote that? 1173031717 M * micah no, I just fixed a lot of things in it :) 1173031718 M * daniel_hozac sysv/ 1173031742 M * daniel_hozac well, prepare for more fixing with 0.30.213, as that adds an entire initscript :) 1173031764 M * micah i'd be happy to get rid of it and use util-vserver's 1173031783 M * micah i dont see an initscript in sysv 1173031793 M * daniel_hozac +util-vserver (0.30.210-1) unstable; urgency=low 1173031798 M * daniel_hozac + * Replaced upstream init scripts with a single init script that 1173031803 M * daniel_hozac + -- Micah Anderson Thu, 2 Feb 2006 09:45:30 -0500 1173031819 M * micah that was a year ago 1173031828 M * micah let me restore brain backups 1173031834 M * daniel_hozac hehe, np. 1173031872 M * daniel_hozac sysv/{util-vserver,vservers-default,vservers-legacy,rebootmgr} should be equivalent in functionality. 1173031875 M * micah i think at that time the package installed all the various initscripts in sysv/ plus one that ola wrote 1173031898 M * micah yeah, so now I remember 1173031942 M * micah I think it was dumping four initscripts, plus the one ola had, was the motiviation to consolidating it all into one 1173032020 M * micah and none of them conformed to standard debian initscript naming, or used /etc/default 1173032104 M * daniel_hozac can't really do anything about the first, but i'd like to fix the latter. 1173032135 M * micah why are all those functions split into individual initscripts, rather than just being logic in one? 1173032165 M * daniel_hozac because they serve different purposes. 1173032189 M * daniel_hozac the util-vserver/vprocunhide scripts are only meant to be run once on boot, and as one of the last things on stop. 1173032218 M * daniel_hozac vservers-legacy/rebootmgr are legacy cruft, so they're split for that reason. 1173032256 M * daniel_hozac vservers-default is the one actually starting guests, and you might want to restart that while the host is up. 1173032293 M * daniel_hozac i suppose vprocunhide could be merged into util-vserver now though. 1173032317 M * micah so vprocunhide can be run on boot and touch a file so it isn't run on every 'start' action, and then run on a 'stop' when the server is shutdown 1173032370 M * micah meaning you can put the necessary logic into vservers-default easily 1173032388 M * micah or merged as you say 1173032407 M * daniel_hozac and what if you mess up the proc tagging and what to reset it? 1173032413 M * daniel_hozac s/what/want/2 1173032462 M * daniel_hozac vservers-default is meant to be cloned if you have more than one group of guests that needs starting. 1173032517 M * daniel_hozac but setting things up and starting guests are two distinct tasks, so should be in separate initscripts. 1173032539 M * micah so if vprocunhide is only supposed to be run on boot and shutdown, but if you mess up proc tagging and want to reset it, then you should just be running it manually 1173032566 M * daniel_hozac well, vprocunhide is a noop on shutdown. 1173032582 M * micah to me, having 5 initscripts is confusing to the user, nobody knew what any of them were (especially with the legacy cruft cluttering things up) 1173032617 M * daniel_hozac different tasks should be separated. 1173032628 M * micah you can have multiple tasks in one initscript to set things up and then start the guests... a lot of initscripts prepare things before starting daemons 1173032666 M * daniel_hozac yes, but then it gets overly complicated when considering multiple groups of guests as well as restarting those groups. 1173032711 M * daniel_hozac it's part of the UNIX philosophy, do one thing and do it well. 1173032845 M * micah yeah, debian policy says you should have an initscript /etc/init.d/, although I'm not sure if there are packages that have multiple initscripts how they handle that 1173032918 M * micah i think this all would be different if all the legacy stuff was gone (gets rid of two of the initscripts) and the vprocunhide was rolled into util-vserver 1173032947 M * micah then there would only be two, util-vserver and vservers-default 1173032971 M * micah btw. sysv/util-vserver doesn't exist for me? 1173033041 M * daniel_hozac well, it has been added for 0.30.213. 1173033081 M * daniel_hozac and about legacy stuff... well, that's up to you. the RPMs have been splitting the legacy stuff to a separate package for a long time. 1173033117 M * micah well legacy kernels wont be shipped next time around anyways 1173033175 M * micah i kind of understand the reason behind that policy, if a user installs the package util-vserver, they expect to find the initscript in /etc/init.d/util-vserver, and would have no idea what "rebootmgr" is even for 1173033239 M * daniel_hozac that is what docs are for, no? 1173033290 M * daniel_hozac do your users now what rebootmgr is for now? 1173033313 M * daniel_hozac also, head usually gives you at least a summary. 1173033327 M * micah no, people dont know what rebootmgr is for :) 1173033491 M * micah i dont see anything that says it is prohibited to have multiple initscripts, so i could take 0.30.213's util-vserver, and vservers-default... maybe renaming vservers-default. Probably get rid of the legacy stuff unless someone says they want it (and then put it in a separate package) 1173033673 Q * rob-84x^ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1173033884 M * phedny does multicast work from inside a vserver? 1173034122 M * daniel_hozac phedny: you tell us. i don't remember what the results were from the tests. 1173034426 M * phedny then I'll try it out soon and let you know about my results 1173034895 J * rob-84x^ ~rob@submarine.ath.cx 1173037187 Q * eyck Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1173038143 N * DoberMann_ DoberMann 1173038422 J * derjohn ~derjohn@80.69.41.2 1173038511 J * eyck eyck@kuszelas.com 1173038668 Q * yarihm Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1173038988 J * FireEgl ~FireEgl@adsl-147-90-140.bhm.bellsouth.net 1173039907 J * yarihm ~yarihm@84-75-102-37.dclient.hispeed.ch 1173042187 Q * transacid Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1173042819 J * Aiken ~james@ppp216-125.lns2.bne1.internode.on.net 1173043212 J * transacid ~transacid@transacid.de 1173043256 Q * Aiken Quit: Leaving 1173043529 N * DoberMann DoberMann[ZZZzzz] 1173043758 M * nadim hi. I'm going to install vserver to check it out. I'm running gentoo 2.6.20. anything I should know before doing the stuff in the howto? 1173044179 M * nadim specially as it says extracting /usr/src/linux-2.6.17-vserver-2.0.2.1/ 1173044194 M * PowerKe I'm not sure if it's already stable on 2.6.20, best tested version is 2.2.0-rc15 on 2.6.19 right now 1173044230 M * PowerKe unmask -2.2 with x86 keyword 1173044531 M * PowerKe also, the vserver build command to extract the stage file and create the new guest might fail if you don't downgrade sys-apps/file to 4.17 (4.18 and 4.19 have a bug) 1173044616 M * nadim thanks 1173044713 M * nadim There's a 2.3.0.9. Shall I go for that one? 1173044740 M * PowerKe That's a development version, I think it would be best to stick with 2.2.0 1173044756 M * Wonka and if, there should also be 2.3.0.11 1173044768 M * PowerKe Wonka: not yet in portage 1173044772 M * nadim nope 1173044793 M * PowerKe Just noticed that for 2.2.0 only up to rc12 is in portage 1173044798 M * Wonka mh. i'd go for self-made anyway. 1173045066 Q * meandtheshel1 Quit: Leaving. 1173045704 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1173046911 Q * FireEgl Quit: ... 1173048206 Q * yarihm Quit: Leaving 1173050039 J * dreamind apwdsl@p548AC425.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1173050044 Q * duckx Remote host closed the connection 1173050058 Q * infowolfe Read error: Connection reset by peer 1173050067 M * dreamind Hi folks :) 1173050082 J * infowolfe ~infowolfe@c-67-164-195-129.hsd1.ut.comcast.net 1173050309 M * nadim hi 1173050527 J * m]VpfiZ\w ~hollow@styx.xnull.de 1173050527 Q * Hollow Read error: Connection reset by peer 1173050560 Q * dmax Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1173050584 N * m]VpfiZ\w Hollow 1173050711 Q * spion cation.oftc.net venus.oftc.net 1173050711 Q * ard cation.oftc.net venus.oftc.net 1173050809 J * spion ~bombadil@bofh.lx.se 1173050809 J * ard ~ard@goatse.kwaak.net 1173050813 Q * tokkee Read error: Connection reset by peer 1173051032 J * tokkee tokkee@casella.verplant.org 1173051689 J * dreamind_ apwdsl@p548AC425.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1173051690 Q * dreamind Read error: Connection reset by peer 1173052299 Q * dreamind_ Quit: dreamind_ 1173052544 Q * dna Quit: Verlassend 1173052625 J * FireEgl Proteus@2001:5c0:84dc:1:211:9ff:feca:b042