1172534434 M * doener jkl: are you sure that no locale variable are set? 1172534445 M * doener Usually it is perl that spits out all those messages 1172534461 M * doener IIRC 1172535197 J * ]kvtoUUQn ~hollow@styx.xnull.de 1172535197 Q * Hollow Read error: Connection reset by peer 1172535226 J * ZLinux ~ZLinux@88.213.57.11 1172535383 Q * shedi Read error: Operation timed out 1172535535 Q * ema Quit: leaving 1172535916 N * ]kvtoUUQn Hollow 1172536170 J * shedi ~siggi@ftth-237-144.hive.is 1172536604 J * meebey_ meebey@booster.qnetp.net 1172536612 Q * ZLinux osmotic.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1172536612 Q * jkl osmotic.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1172536612 Q * mEDI_S osmotic.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1172536612 Q * meebey osmotic.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1172536612 Q * cdrx osmotic.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1172536612 Q * Piet__ osmotic.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1172536612 Q * michal` osmotic.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1172536615 J * michal` ~michal@www.rsbac.org 1172536623 J * jkl TcWL2p9F2o@c-67-173-253-237.hsd1.co.comcast.net 1172536628 J * Aiken ~james@ppp216-125.lns2.bne1.internode.on.net 1172536631 J * cdrx ~legoater@cap31-3-82-227-199-249.fbx.proxad.net 1172536654 Q * Aiken 1172536746 J * Piet__ hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org 1172536748 J * ZLinux ~ZLinux@88.213.57.11 1172536750 J * mEDI_S ~medi@snipah.com 1172536774 J * Aiken ~james@ppp216-125.lns2.bne1.internode.on.net 1172539635 M * jkl doener: yep, it is perl that's actually spitting those messages. will installing locales fix that? 1172539748 M * Bertl guess so, configuring the locales properly will help too though 1172540434 M * Bertl jkl: when do you get those messages? 1172542312 M * mEDI_S jkl: or set LC_ALL, LANG, LANGUAGE to C or en in /etc/environment LANG=xx 1172542436 M * Bertl en is unfortunate, C or POSIX should be fine 1172542441 M * doener jkl: did you actually check that there's no locale set using "locale"? 1172542515 M * doener checking e.g. /etc/default/locale isn't enough. The environment variables might be set by ssh as well 1172544697 Q * Aiken Quit: Leaving 1172544884 J * Aiken ~james@ppp216-125.lns2.bne1.internode.on.net 1172546670 M * orzel my web server (hosted in vserver) is quite slow. 1172546682 M * orzel if i do 'top' inside the vserver, it's at 99%, which explains 1172546702 M * orzel although the host, is idling. Is that.. expected ? 1172546721 M * orzel i dont remember having configured some restricted CPU usage, but maybe there's some default? 1172546761 Q * Piet__ Quit: Piet__ 1172546833 M * Bertl orzel: there are defaults, if you just enabled hard cpu limits 1172546883 M * orzel i've looked into /etc/vserver/*/ but can't find. Where is that configured? 1172546918 M * Bertl the defaults are kernel side, roughly 25% IIRC 1172546946 M * Bertl check if you enabled the hard scheduler at all (for that context) because it is usually not enabled by default 1172547024 M * Bertl can you upload the /proc/virtual//* contents? 1172547044 M * orzel CONFIG_VSERVER_HARDCPU=y 1172547044 M * orzel this? 1172547082 M * orzel also, you say "for that context", but i dont know how to check if that particular context has anything configured wrt limit/cpu/whatever. 1172547084 M * Bertl yes, but that is only the kernel compile time part, you need a flag to actually enable it ... uploading the entries would simplify analysis ... 1172547110 M * Bertl /proc/virtual//* know the context settings :) 1172547126 M * orzel oh, i didn't know about this 1172547161 M * orzel verdi 1252 # cat limit 1172547161 M * orzel Limit current min/max soft/hard hits 1172547161 M * orzel PROC: 12 0/ 26 -1/ -1 0 1172547165 M * orzel so, this is it? 1172547185 M * Bertl no, that is only the number of processes in your guest :) 1172547198 M * Bertl please use paste.linux-vserver.org for the contents 1172547216 M * Bertl we are interested in the status, info and sched files 1172547262 M * orzel http://paste.linux-vserver.org/1213 1172547265 M * orzel this? :) 1172547279 M * Bertl yep, tx 1172547297 M * Bertl verdi after the musician? 1172547305 M * orzel i guess most of the cpu on this computer will be used by this particular vserver. i dont mind it takes 100% 1172547310 M * orzel yes, verdi the musician :) 1172547326 M * orzel all computers here have name of musicians, especially short named musicians :) 1172547343 M * Bertl bach :) 1172547345 M * orzel (Tchaikovsky is a no-way) 1172547375 Q * Aiken Quit: Leaving 1172547382 M * Bertl btw, here are the capabilities and flags: http://linux-vserver.org/Capabilities_and_Flags 1172547396 M * Bertl you see the Flags line in you paste? 1172547403 Q * virtuoso Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1172547436 M * orzel yes 1172547449 M * Bertl they do not contain any of the SCHED_* flags 1172547470 M * Bertl so the context CPU restrictions are off 1172547479 M * orzel oh ? strange then. 1172547487 M * orzel INFO_ULIMIT <- this is something else, right ? 1172547494 M * Bertl yep 1172547506 M * orzel it's not set anyway 1172547509 M * Bertl now, let's assume the guest takes 100% somehow 1172547514 M * orzel i have INFO_INIT 1172547517 A * orzel glad to know 1172547522 M * Bertl (at least that is what you see inside, yes?) 1172547534 M * orzel yes 1172547538 M * orzel definitely 1172547546 M * orzel and almost 0 on the host 1172547547 M * Bertl but on the host, you see the machine idle? 1172547551 M * orzel yes 1172547559 M * Bertl how do you check that? 1172547563 M * Bertl top? 1172547564 M * orzel with 'top' 1172547575 M * Bertl try vtop 1172547592 M * orzel oh. does that show all combined ? 1172547598 M * Bertl yep 1172547611 M * orzel second really interesting thing i learn today about vserver :) 1172547612 M * orzel thx :) 1172547629 M * Bertl I hope that clarifies what you are seeing ... 1172547646 M * orzel ok, i think i'm going to bed now. 1172547651 M * orzel i have the needed tools 1172547657 M * orzel (it's 4:42am here) 1172547658 M * Bertl have a good one then! and cya! 1172547668 M * orzel thanks a lot again! see ya :) 1172547678 M * Bertl you're welcome! 1172547918 M * ray6 "it's 4:42 here" - *lol* 1172548092 J * marcfiu ~mef@000-179-320.area3.spcsdns.net 1172548501 J * marcfi1 ~mef@h46053473.area3.spcsdns.net 1172548740 J * Aiken ~james@ppp216-125.lns2.bne1.internode.on.net 1172548743 Q * marcfiu Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1172549085 Q * ensc Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by ensc_)) 1172549095 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p54B4EB5C.dip.t-dialin.net 1172549669 Q * Aiken Quit: Leaving 1172549705 P * marcfi1 1172551041 J * Cos ~Cos@69-161-68-165.bflony.adelphia.net 1172552430 M * bored2sleep would it be strange to have vyum and/or vrpm have an option to vhashify the appropriate files as they're installed? I'm just thinking to simplify maintenance... 1172552482 M * Bertl well, try it out, submit a patch ... 1172552578 M * bored2sleep unfortunately, that is probably not something I have time for right now. if I do get a chance between doing work, I'll give it a shot. It would require that I first understand vhashify and vrpm (and maybe vyum), so this isn't a small undertaking :) 1172552650 M * bored2sleep I'm much better at breaking things than making them work ;) 1172552664 M * daniel_hozac how would you do that? 1172555268 M * Bertl okay, off to bed now ... have a good one everyone! cya! 1172555274 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1172556041 Q * Cos Quit: off like a prom dress 1172556393 J * virtuoso ~s0t0na@80.253.205.251 1172559729 N * DoberMann[ZZZzzz] DoberMann 1172560193 Q * cdrx Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1172561205 J * DoberMann_ ~james@AToulouse-156-1-146-106.w90-30.abo.wanadoo.fr 1172561303 Q * DoberMann Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1172561819 J * infowolfe_ ~infowolfe@c-67-164-195-129.hsd1.ut.comcast.net 1172562213 Q * infowolfe Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1172562476 N * DoberMann_ DoberMann[PullA] 1172563796 J * dna ~naucki@234-247-dsl.kielnet.net 1172564133 J * dna_ ~naucki@234-247-dsl.kielnet.net 1172564284 J * IAseBepaA ~hollow@styx.xnull.de 1172564318 J * _Radiance b108845d15@halt.1984world.eu 1172564380 J * glut glut@no.suid.pl 1172564392 J * kaner kaner@strace.org 1172564436 Q * ray6 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1172564437 Q * kaner_ Remote host closed the connection 1172564437 Q * ex Remote host closed the connection 1172564437 Q * glutoman Remote host closed the connection 1172564437 Q * blizz_ Remote host closed the connection 1172564437 Q * transacid Remote host closed the connection 1172564437 Q * michal` Remote host closed the connection 1172564437 Q * DreamerC Remote host closed the connection 1172564437 Q * phreak`` Remote host closed the connection 1172564437 Q * Radiance Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1172564437 J * transacid ~transacid@transacid.de 1172564437 J * DreamerC ~dreamerc@125-225-102-189.dynamic.hinet.net 1172564462 J * ex ex@valis.net.pl 1172564473 J * phreak`` ~phreak``@deimos.barfoo.org 1172564474 J * blizz ~blizz@evilhackerdu.de 1172564495 J * michal` ~michal@www.rsbac.org 1172564512 Q * Hollow Read error: Connection reset by peer 1172564524 N * IAseBepaA Hollow 1172564538 Q * dna Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1172564546 J * cdrx ~legoater@blueice1n1.uk.ibm.com 1172564785 N * Hollow Hollow_ 1172564845 N * Hollow_ Hollow 1172565749 N * DoberMann[PullA] DoberMann 1172566778 J * Administrator ~Administr@dslb-084-061-130-067.pools.arcor-ip.net 1172566785 Q * Administrator 1172567144 J * Kaamos ~Administr@dslb-084-061-130-067.pools.arcor-ip.net 1172567193 M * Kaamos morgen 1172567292 M * daniel_hozac good morning. 1172567457 M * Kaamos i think i have a problem with the vprocunhide script. host and client system worked until reboot. execution of the vprocunhide script worked but i have no process list inside the vserver (proc empty) 1172567482 M * Kaamos util-vserver-0.30.210 // kernel 2.6.16.20-vs2.1.1-rc22 1172567813 M * daniel_hozac well, you'd want to update to something more recent. 1172567900 M * daniel_hozac but the problem does not sound familiar. 1172567936 M * Kaamos the strange thing is that the apache inside the vserver is reachable 1172567973 M * daniel_hozac does vps faux show the processes? 1172567998 M * Kaamos yes 1172568025 M * daniel_hozac does the guest have proc in /etc/vservers//fstab? 1172568090 M * Kaamos yes 1172568119 M * daniel_hozac does ls -l /proc inside show anything? 1172568139 M * Kaamos no 1172568193 M * daniel_hozac what if you run vnamespace -e mount -t proc none /vservers//proc? 1172568255 M * Kaamos hmm worked..... 1172568291 M * Kaamos but why isn't proc mounted with fstab? 1172568298 M * harry it should 1172568308 M * harry vprocunhide? 1172568338 M * harry nvmnd... i wasn't following... 1172568378 M * Kaamos ok but that's something i can work with, thanks :) 1172569752 Q * Kaamos Quit: Verlassend 1172570606 N * _Radiance Radiance 1172571038 J * ray6 ~ray@vh5.gcsc2.ray.net 1172571917 J * meandtheshel1 ~markus@85-124-207-155.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at 1172572025 Q * shedi Quit: Leaving 1172573421 Q * TrueBrain Remote host closed the connection 1172573679 J * TrueBrain truelight@openttd.org 1172574418 Q * yang Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1172574746 J * yang ~yang@cpe-213-157-253-172.dynamic.amis.net 1172576635 M * Guest63 Hi harry 1172576639 M * Guest63 Oh God 1172576644 M * Guest63 I lost my nick again. 1172576663 N * Guest63 matti 1172576671 M * matti That's better. 1172577945 J * hardwire` ~hardwire@rdbck-6143.wasilla.mtaonline.net 1172578143 Q * hardwire Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1172580684 Q * DoberMann Remote host closed the connection 1172580698 J * DoberMann ~james@AToulouse-156-1-146-106.w90-30.abo.wanadoo.fr 1172581790 J * Piet hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org 1172583045 Q * mnemoc Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1172583372 J * _dmax ~semaj@bl9-225-218.dsl.telepac.pt 1172583434 J * mnemoc ~amery@kilo105.server4you.de 1172583529 J * mountie ~mountie@trb229.travel-net.com 1172583553 J * ema ~ema@lart.galliera.it 1172583730 Q * dmax Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1172583730 N * _dmax dmax 1172584049 M * harry anyone here? 1172584060 M * harry i wantt o know where my binary is loaded, without attaching to it... 1172584063 M * harry how do i do that? 1172584065 M * harry http://pastebin.ca/374291 1172584081 M * harry i want to konw where my lib is loaded into mem 1172584209 M * harry is that grsecurity stuff kicking in? 1172584226 M * harry (/me trying to make reliable exploits for a grsec enabled kernel in vserver) 1172584344 M * daniel_hozac reliable exploits? 1172584407 M * daniel_hozac and probably. 1172584501 M * harry will not work through maps/stats/... dammit! 1172584579 J * dKrAiNbOw ~Mecotek@host212-90-dynamic.57-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it 1172584767 M * dKrAiNbOw i have a problem while compiling openvcpd http://rafb.net/p/RY4IGk93.html any one can help me? 1172584984 J * T3nE ~tenebre@p54B13135.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1172585014 Q * Piet charon.oftc.net arion.oftc.net 1172585014 Q * meandtheshel1 charon.oftc.net arion.oftc.net 1172585014 Q * michal` charon.oftc.net arion.oftc.net 1172585014 Q * blizz charon.oftc.net arion.oftc.net 1172585014 Q * phreak`` charon.oftc.net arion.oftc.net 1172585014 Q * ex charon.oftc.net arion.oftc.net 1172585014 Q * DreamerC charon.oftc.net arion.oftc.net 1172585014 Q * transacid charon.oftc.net arion.oftc.net 1172585014 Q * ||Cobra|| charon.oftc.net arion.oftc.net 1172585014 Q * lilalinux charon.oftc.net arion.oftc.net 1172585014 Q * badari charon.oftc.net arion.oftc.net 1172585231 J * michal` ~michal@www.rsbac.org 1172585231 J * Piet_ hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org 1172585231 J * DreamerC ~dreamerc@125-225-102-189.dynamic.hinet.net 1172585231 J * lilalinux ~plasma@80.69.41.2 1172585231 J * badari ~badari@bi01p1.co.us.ibm.com 1172585245 J * meandtheshel1 ~markus@85-124-207-155.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at 1172585282 J * ||Cobra|| ~cob@pc-csa01.science.uva.nl 1172585305 M * daniel_hozac dKrAiNbOw: you should ask the openvcp people, unfortunately, i don't know/remember who they are.... 1172585334 M * sid3windr #openvcp will know :) 1172585346 M * dKrAiNbOw tnx 1172585366 M * brcc Does it represent a security risk to create a persitent tun interface and allow guests to run vpn servers (as explained on oldwiki). 1172585383 M * daniel_hozac brcc: if you configure them on the host, no. 1172585467 J * blizz ~blizz@evilhackerdu.de 1172585467 J * ex ex@81.219.196.129 1172585471 J * phreak`` ~phreak``@deimos.barfoo.org 1172585513 J * transacid ~transacid@transacid.de 1172585588 J * chand ~chand@m167.net81-64-156.noos.fr 1172585610 Q * chand 1172585624 J * chand ~chand@m167.net81-64-156.noos.fr 1172586213 N * Piet_ Piet 1172586412 M * brcc The guest will have access to the persistent tun interface and will use it to create the vpn 1172586968 Q * vasko Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1172587686 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1172587690 M * Bertl morning folks! 1172587739 M * ema hey Bertl! 1172587776 M * daniel_hozac morning Bertl! 1172588713 Q * cdrx Read error: Connection reset by peer 1172589077 J * DavidS ~david@vpn.uni-ak.ac.at 1172589848 M * brcc sup bertl! 1172589943 Q * dKrAiNbOw 1172589945 M * Bertl everything fine here ... 1172590066 Q * kir Remote host closed the connection 1172590331 Q * lilalinux Remote host closed the connection 1172590378 J * lilalinux ~plasma@80.69.41.2 1172590778 Q * lilalinux Remote host closed the connection 1172590829 J * cdrx ~legoater@cap31-3-82-227-199-249.fbx.proxad.net 1172592778 Q * DavidS Quit: Leaving. 1172592825 J * pstader ~phil@pD9504EB4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1172592831 M * pstader hi there. 1172592841 M * pstader is there a way to see overall load on a server? 1172592852 M * Bertl try vtop 1172592856 M * pstader it seems like top and uptime in the host ignore whats going in guests 1172592857 M * pstader doh 1172592862 M * pstader thats too easy 1172592867 M * Bertl :) 1172592886 M * pstader and exactly what i was looking for 1172592891 M * pstader when i am here already 1172592898 M * pstader did anyone try to get vmware running in a vserver? 1172592899 M * Bertl you might also check out vps :) 1172592916 M * pstader vps is management? i got one real server with four vservers 1172592916 M * Bertl vmware as userspace process runs fine inside a guest 1172592929 M * Bertl vps = ps + v 1172592939 M * pstader ah right 1172592940 M * Bertl like vtop = top + v 1172592958 M * pstader hrhr 1172592960 M * Bertl we call the guests 'guest' not vps :) 1172592968 M * pstader vps kill guests processes 1172592969 M * pstader funny 1172592995 M * Bertl the problem is, vmware without kernel support is quite slow 1172593012 M * pstader thats not the problem 1172593020 M * pstader i just don't want the vmware binaries etc. in my host 1172593028 M * Bertl I can understand that :) 1172593029 M * pstader and networking has to work 1172593033 M * pstader vmware is fun 1172593040 M * Bertl why not use QEMU instead? 1172593047 M * pstader mh never tried that 1172593049 M * pstader i am used to vmware 1172593057 M * pstader thats the only reason i guess 1172593065 M * pstader i need a windows on the server sometimes 1172593066 M * Bertl well, QEMU might not be _that_ fast, but it has several advantages 1172593071 M * pstader have todeal with gameservers 1172593083 M * pstader and some &/$%&$& people like to pack maps as .exe etc. 1172593099 M * Bertl hehe, yeah, happens ... 1172593166 A * hardwire` appreciates qemu's speed 1172593187 M * hardwire` its not lightning on the video side of things, but raw CPU processing and network processing its.. alright.. 1172593203 M * hardwire` esp with kqemu running in the kernel 1172593461 J * lilalinux ~plasma@80.69.41.2 1172594442 Q * Hunger Read error: Connection reset by peer 1172594640 M * pstader video doesn't matter much 1172594645 M * pstader vmware console is slow as hell too 1172594654 M * pstader connect to windows via rdp 1172594707 J * Hunger Hunger.hu@Hunger.hu 1172594732 Q * Hunger Remote host closed the connection 1172594830 M * Bertl pstader: well, QEMU has a vnc interface too 1172594846 M * Bertl which works quite nicely over network 1172594869 J * Hunger Hunger.hu@Hunger.hu 1172594880 M * Bertl okay, off for now .. back a little later ... 1172594886 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1172595149 J * the_hydra ~mulyadi@125.164.99.23 1172595242 J * tklein ~chatzilla@site.lycos.de 1172595262 M * tklein hi there 1172595268 M * the_hydra hi 1172595483 Q * tklein Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.77 [Firefox 2.0.0.2/2007021917] 1172595500 Q * ema Quit: leaving 1172595578 J * stefani ~stefani@tsipoor.banerian.org 1172596769 J * ntrs_ ntrs@68-188-55-120.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com 1172596836 J * _mcp ~hightower@wolk-project.de 1172596997 J * _[PUPPETS]Gonzo gonzo@langweiligneutral.deswahnsinns.de 1172597014 J * FaUl_ immo@shell.chaostreff-dortmund.de 1172597033 J * mjt_ ~mjt@81.13.94.2 1172597048 J * brcc_ bruce@i.am.someasshole.com 1172597051 J * cohan_ ~cohan@koniczek.de 1172597053 J * neuralis_ ~krstic@solarsail.hcs.harvard.edu 1172597054 J * menomc ~amery@kilo105.server4you.de 1172597054 J * _Medivh ck@paradise.by.the.dashboardlight.de 1172597066 J * [Guy] xl4iGjpUB1@chardonnay.math.bme.hu 1172597129 J * hardwire ~hardwire@rdbck-6143.wasilla.mtaonline.net 1172597247 Q * mountie osmotic.oftc.net xenon.oftc.net 1172597247 Q * mnemoc osmotic.oftc.net xenon.oftc.net 1172597247 Q * hardwire` osmotic.oftc.net xenon.oftc.net 1172597247 Q * yang osmotic.oftc.net xenon.oftc.net 1172597247 Q * mEDI_S osmotic.oftc.net xenon.oftc.net 1172597247 Q * mjt osmotic.oftc.net xenon.oftc.net 1172597247 Q * borgfish osmotic.oftc.net xenon.oftc.net 1172597247 Q * nebuchadnezzar osmotic.oftc.net xenon.oftc.net 1172597247 Q * [PUPPETS]Gonzo osmotic.oftc.net xenon.oftc.net 1172597247 Q * Guy- osmotic.oftc.net xenon.oftc.net 1172597247 Q * Medivh osmotic.oftc.net xenon.oftc.net 1172597247 Q * Johnnie osmotic.oftc.net xenon.oftc.net 1172597247 Q * FaUl osmotic.oftc.net xenon.oftc.net 1172597248 Q * derjohn osmotic.oftc.net xenon.oftc.net 1172597248 Q * waldi osmotic.oftc.net xenon.oftc.net 1172597248 Q * mire osmotic.oftc.net xenon.oftc.net 1172597248 Q * mcp osmotic.oftc.net xenon.oftc.net 1172597248 Q * cohan osmotic.oftc.net xenon.oftc.net 1172597248 Q * ntrs osmotic.oftc.net xenon.oftc.net 1172597248 Q * brcc osmotic.oftc.net xenon.oftc.net 1172597248 Q * neuralis osmotic.oftc.net xenon.oftc.net 1172597248 N * _mcp mcp 1172597248 N * menomc mnemoc 1172597252 N * _Medivh Medivh 1172597710 J * Johnnie ~jdlewis@jdlewis.org 1172597726 J * mountie ~mountie@trb229.travel-net.com 1172597754 J * waldi ~waldi@bblank.thinkmo.de 1172597775 J * derjohn ~derjohn@80.69.41.2 1172597796 J * mire ~mire@77-166-222-85.adsl.verat.net 1172597804 J * nebuchadnezzar ~nebu@zion.asgardr.info 1172597812 J * mEDI_S ~medi@snipah.com 1172597839 J * yang ~yang@cpe-213-157-253-172.dynamic.amis.net 1172597994 J * ard ~ard@goatse.kwaak.net 1172598151 N * Bertl_oO Bertl 1172598155 M * Bertl back now 1172598244 J * ntrs__ ntrs@68-188-55-120.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com 1172598266 M * yang hey Bertl 1172598298 M * Bertl hey yang! didn't get to compile anything yesterday ... 1172598389 M * yang OK, so if you want to compile it today, or we can do it another day 1172598415 Q * ntrs_ Read error: Connection reset by peer 1172598430 M * Bertl yang: I'll tell you in half an hour, okay? 1172598450 M * yang Bertl: ok, I ll be around untill 20h 1172598474 N * DoberMann DoberMann[PullA] 1172598839 J * EvilDin ~Snake@BSN-77-83-28.dsl.siol.net 1172598848 M * yang hello EvilDin 1172598891 M * EvilDin am anyone have any idea, i compile new kernel i rebooted, and ssh on main server Debian didn't start, all other vservers started just fine 1172598916 M * Bertl sounds strange 1172598922 M * EvilDin yeah 1172598936 M * Bertl can you restart it now? 1172598941 M * Bertl (the sshd that is) 1172598946 M * EvilDin yes with webinterface 1172598956 M * Bertl and that works quite fine? 1172598964 M * EvilDin was there any change in kernel 19 - 20 1172598986 M * Bertl yes, quite a lot changed, but all my sshds are still starting :) 1172599009 M * Bertl (but I do not use debian there ... so) 1172599028 M * EvilDin am it is strange, that debian vserver started sshd normal 1172599033 M * EvilDin but main server didn't :D 1172599056 M * Bertl logs might shed some light on that 1172599068 M * EvilDin if only i could access to them :P 1172599095 M * Bertl something most distros have been recently fighting with, is the delayed network initialization 1172599122 M * Bertl i.e. some distros added a 'network-up' script which just waits for the network to actually be up 1172599129 M * EvilDin so you are talking that server will come on ? 1172599148 M * Bertl no, the sshd won't be started now, I guess 1172599159 M * Bertl but if it tried to start before the network was up 1172599159 M * EvilDin i will try another reboot 1172599163 M * yang EvilDin: did you install sshd at the guest at all? 1172599166 M * Bertl it could have failed easily 1172599170 M * EvilDin of course 1172599179 M * EvilDin guest all have sshds working 1172599180 M * Bertl yang: it's the host, if I got that right 1172599198 M * EvilDin only main server doesn't 1172599215 M * EvilDin i will reboot with webinterfaces and wait if anything happen 1172599227 M * Bertl btw, no serial console? 1172599237 M * EvilDin nope :( 1172599339 M * EvilDin come on this is freaking wired 1172599572 M * Bertl yang: okay, let's do it tomorrow, I'm currently swamped with work 1172599594 J * tzafrir ~tzafrir@62.90.10.53 1172599600 M * Bertl welcome tzafrir! 1172599608 Q * the_hydra Quit: using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12 1172599633 M * tzafrir how can I loopmount a file on a vserver (or permit a vserver to loopmount one)? 1172599681 M * yang Bertl: sure:) 1172599797 M * Bertl tzafrir: you can loopmount it from the host with a command, or via the fstab of the guest (on startup) 1172599814 Q * dna_ Quit: Verlassend 1172599837 M * Bertl tzafrir: with recent versions, you can also give the LOOP capability to a guest, so that this quest can do loop mounts, but be aware that this reduces security 1172599845 M * tzafrir the problem is with /dev/loopN , I believe 1172599879 M * tzafrir I have a script in which a user loopmounts a certain ISO file temporarily in order to copy it 1172599899 M * tzafrir I don't really care about security here 1172599930 M * tzafrir I'm using vserver here because it allows me to easily share chroots 1172599949 M * Bertl okay, just copy the loop devices into the guest dev then 1172600004 M * Bertl and set the capabilities ... 1172600024 M * Bertl SECURE_MOUNT, SECURE_REMOUNT, BINARY_MOUNT and ADMIN_CLOOP 1172600032 M * Bertl http://linux-vserver.org/Capabilities_and_Flags 1172600064 M * Bertl (should give the guest full control over the loop devices) 1172600210 M * tzafrir doesn't work... permission denmied. I'll strace when I get home 1172600251 M * Bertl okay 1172600445 Q * Hunger Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1172600548 J * crypt ice@p54A3B15B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1172600636 N * DoberMann[PullA] DoberMann 1172600820 M * Bertl welcome crypt! 1172600840 M * crypt hi Bertl :) 1172600920 M * crypt Bertl, which vs version is this? VS-API: 0x00020002 2.0 or 2.2 ? 1172600934 M * Bertl 2.0.2 1172600979 M * crypt hmm bad ;) these stupid debian people :( 1172601086 M * crypt if derjohn could tell me how he is building is kernel's I would be pleased to build some new kernel's for vs 2.2 1172601203 M * daniel_hozac isn't it just make-kpkg or something like that? 1172601219 M * crypt i haven't build a debian kernel until now :( 1172601247 M * Bertl well, for most purposes the in kernel build stuff is fine 1172601249 M * crypt gentoo no problem ;) but for debian I didn't get a running kernel 1172601259 M * Bertl (check out 'make help') 1172601296 N * neuralis_ neuralis 1172601314 Q * mountie Read error: Connection reset by peer 1172601889 Q * ntrs__ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1172602190 J * ntrs__ ntrs@68-188-55-120.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com 1172602248 J * mountie ~mountie@trb229.travel-net.com 1172602272 J * Hunger Hunger.hu@Hunger.hu 1172602629 Q * lilalinux Remote host closed the connection 1172602694 Q * ntrs__ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1172603115 M * matti Bertl: :) 1172603134 M * Bertl hey matti! 1172603139 M * matti How are you? :) 1172603152 M * Bertl fine thanks, but quite busy ... 1172603188 M * matti Oh, I don't want to interrupt anythig. Sorry. 1172603193 M * Bertl np 1172603325 M * matti :) 1172603333 M * matti Uh. 1172603344 M * matti I have >500 unreaded mails. 1172603345 M * matti Damn. 1172603362 M * matti I need more time... 1172603363 M * matti :< 1172603377 M * daniel_hozac matti: i have 1800 :) 1172603397 M * daniel_hozac i think 36 hour days would be much better... 1172603450 M * matti 488! 1172603454 M * matti 48 1172603454 M * matti ;p 1172603460 M * matti be realistic... 1172603461 M * matti ;p 1172603488 M * daniel_hozac hehe. 1172603539 M * matti ;) 1172603560 Q * chand Quit: chand 1172603752 J * DavidS ~david@85.125.165.34 1172603814 J * yarihm ~yarihm@84-75-123-221.dclient.hispeed.ch 1172604019 J * ntrs__ ntrs@68-188-55-120.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com 1172604345 M * EvilDin is it possible to access to main server throw vserver 1172604359 M * daniel_hozac well, no, that wouldn't be very secure, would it. 1172604390 M * Bertl EvilDin: via ssh for example? 1172604395 M * EvilDin yeah 1172604400 M * EvilDin ssh doesn't work :) 1172604425 M * Bertl well, then no, I guess, unless you have a kernel with a known exploit :) 1172604434 M * EvilDin :) 1172604439 M * EvilDin not really :) 1172604593 Q * DavidS Quit: Leaving. 1172604739 N * mjt_ mjt 1172604791 M * Bertl EvilDin: why not boot with the older kernel, where sshd worked before (as you said)? 1172604920 Q * crypt Quit: Leaving 1172604967 J * tzafrir_laptop ~tzafrir@bzq-88-153-62-71.red.bezeqint.net 1172605030 J * chand ~chand@m167.net81-64-156.noos.fr 1172605123 Q * chand 1172605442 Q * ruskie Read error: Connection reset by peer 1172605728 M * EvilDin yeah i am waitng that provider would boot in old kernel 1172605892 M * matti EvilDin: But in contrary... if you have a not yet known exploit that works. 1172605902 M * matti EvilDin: Then don't hasistate to share with us ;p 1172605903 M * matti ;ppp 1172605923 M * EvilDin :) 1172605932 M * EvilDin i just compile the kernel 1172605936 M * EvilDin there is no explit 1172605937 M * EvilDin :d 1172605949 M * matti Oh ;p I am just being silly ;p 1172605982 M * matti Too much Monty Python in my childhood I presume ;p 1172606090 M * matti EvilDin: Remember! Nobody expects Spanish Inquisition ;p 1172606091 M * matti :) 1172606124 M * Bertl now something completely different ... a man with two noses ... 1172606136 M * matti Bertl: Hhaha! 1172606141 M * matti :))))) 1172606158 M * matti Bertl: You're great person :) Indeed ;] 1172606161 M * matti Bertl: Thanks :) 1172606164 M * matti Hahah. 1172606192 M * Bertl :) 1172606483 M * daniel_hozac EvilDin: well, you might've compiled 2.6.2 or something. who knows :) 1172606533 M * EvilDin why then i get uname -a on vservers: 2.6.20.1-vs2.2.0-rc15 1172606534 M * EvilDin :) 1172606549 M * Bertl guest virtualization, UTS namespaces :) 1172606599 J * DreamerC_ ~dreamerc@125-225-98-38.dynamic.hinet.net 1172606605 M * EvilDin eh i still think that there is no exploit :) 1172606616 M * Bertl we think so too ... 1172606722 J * ruskie ruskie@ruskie.user.oftc.net 1172606983 Q * DreamerC Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1172607731 M * harry wiiiiii... rc15 :) 1172607737 A * harry needs to update patches! :) 1172607754 M * harry maybe time to remove some "old" patches 1172607773 M * harry depending on diskspace and desires of the admins 1172609116 J * Aiken ~james@ppp216-125.lns2.bne1.internode.on.net 1172609574 M * Hollow harry: there is enough space left yet :) 1172609581 M * Bertl morning Aiken! 1172609724 M * Aiken good morning 1172609778 Q * Piet Remote host closed the connection 1172609865 J * Piet hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org 1172610254 M * pstader i could watch vtop all day long 1172610764 M * Bertl well, go ahead :) 1172611119 Q * T3nE 1172611753 J * FireEgl ~FireEgl@68.220.222.136 1172613049 M * Bertl okay, moving out now ... back shortly 1172613058 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1172614584 Q * Aiken Quit: Leaving 1172614811 Q * EvilDin Quit: Anac�n�a � "If it should exist, it doesn't" 1172615248 Q * Hollow Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1172615605 J * tzafrir_ ~tzafrir@bzq-88-153-3-121.red.bezeqint.net 1172615755 J * Hollow ~hollow@styx.xnull.de 1172615891 Q * tzafrir_laptop Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1172615987 N * Bertl_oO Bertl 1172615992 M * Bertl back now ... 1172616623 M * pstader power nap? 1172616674 M * Bertl nah, walk from offcie :) 1172616679 M * Bertl *office 1172616691 N * DoberMann DoberMann[ZZZzzz] 1172616733 J * Aiken ~james@ppp216-125.lns2.bne1.internode.on.net 1172617367 Q * FireEgl Quit: ... 1172618150 Q * yarihm Quit: Leaving 1172619968 P * stefani I'm Parting (the water) 1172620140 J * FireEgl Proteus@2001:5c0:84dc:1:211:9ff:feca:b042 1172620633 Q * Aiken Quit: Leaving