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1172189732 M * mjt what's so secure in secure-mount?
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1172189916 M * Bertl mjt: hehe, well, it is probably a misnomer, as the main focus is not on the security
1172189947 M * mjt it adds a `nodev' option. but other than that.. hmm..
1172189957 J * Aiken ~james@ppp126-23.lns2.bne4.internode.on.net
1172189976 M * Bertl mjt: it is a mount able to mount within a guest namespace, from outside the chroot/rbind, and as you said, it adds the nodev which makes the mount securer ...
1172189979 M * mjt and it tries to be in the right 'context', too
1172190528 M * mjt so the only real value of secure-mount seems to be to translate paths for mountpoints, and write mtab... and do quite.. some additional 'sanity checks'.. right?  Also, with --chroot, it operates "inside" the to-be-guest namespace.
1172190559 M * mjt (for the last feature real mount (but inside the guest this time) can be used)
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1172190581 M * Bertl yep
1172190602 M * Bertl it is basically used to realize the fstab stuff
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1172191002 M * mjt exec-cd is another.. interesting utility.  Trying to chdir to a directory inside vserver context, but executing something from host.
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1172191626 M * mjt in vnamespace.c: pid = sys_clone(CLONE_NEWNS|SIGCHLD, 0);
1172191639 M * mjt what does that SIGCHLD mean?
1172191652 Q * Aiken 
1172191664 M * mjt looks like a typo.. no?
1172191705 M * Bertl man clone
1172191726 M * Bertl The low byte of flags contains the number of the signal sent  to  the  parent  when  the child dies.
1172191728 M * mjt ahh.. got it. 
1172191742 M * mjt hmm. i've read that manpage many times, but haven't noticied this part ;)
1172191775 M * mjt now i know why my tiny `newnamespace' util behaves.. strange ;)
1172191803 M * mjt by the way, since 2.6.16 there's unshare(CLONE_NEWNS) which can be used pretty like chroot()+exec()
1172191826 M * mjt (there's no need to wait the process, that is)
1172191841 M * Bertl yup
1172191865 M * Bertl but we actually want to wait for the process :)
1172191890 M * Bertl (at least in certain cases ...)
1172191930 J * Aiken ~james@ppp126-23.lns2.bne4.internode.on.net
1172191958 M * mjt i mean, there's no need to havre TWO processes anymore
1172192063 M * Bertl make a patch, test it, submit it, I guess it might be included at some point (at least as config option)
1172192176 M * mjt i don't think it's worth the effort - esp. with all the "optional", "some point" etc ;)
1172192344 M * Bertl the thing is, the tools have to work on ancient 2.4 patches too
1172192371 M * mjt yeah, that's why
1172192371 M * Bertl so the "optional" and  "some point" make sense :)
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1172201830 M * Bertl okay, off to bed now .. have a good one everyone! cya!
1172201836 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
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1172225002 J * borgfish ~bla@141.12.67.168
1172225004 M * borgfish moin
1172225112 M * borgfish does anyone know if there is any solution for file encryption /encrypted volume within a vserver ? Kernel is not compiled with loop and devicemapper and stuff ..
1172225127 M * borgfish maybe someone knows a program in pure userspace doing that
1172225149 J * michal` ~michal@www.rsbac.org
1172225161 M * borgfish hi michal
1172225700 M * PowerKe You could use something like gpg to encrypt/decrypt files, but I guess you want to use the encryption transparantly
1172225734 M * PowerKe Most transparant encryption works by making an encrypted block device so you'd need loop mounting or devicemapper
1172225753 M * PowerKe I guess the only way to have transparent encryption without it would be to use a filesystem that is encrypting
1172225763 M * PowerKe Google turns up http://arg0.net/encfs for that
1172225819 J * Piet hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org
1172225921 M * borgfish thanks for the hint ill have a look
1172225956 M * borgfish well it uses FUSE thats a kernel mod. :(  
1172225982 M * borgfish maybe there is a FS driver pulling the files data from a mysql which can be crypted ? let me google
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1172226523 M * PowerKe And why would you be able to load that FS driver, but not FUSE?
1172226594 J * meandtheshell ~markus@85-124-38-165.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at
1172226689 M * borgfish well i have no access to the host i only have my vserver. so im searching for a solution
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1172237131 J * Vanzetti ~nahuel@nahuel.ahtna.org
1172237133 M * Vanzetti Hi
1172237192 M * Vanzetti i was asking myself how to install another distro than where is installed vserver... but don't find solution, does it exist a method ?
1172237763 J * marcfiu ~mef@aegis.CS.Princeton.EDU
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1172238388 J * orzel ~orzel@freehackers.org
1172238452 M * orzel hello. I'm using the kernel "2.6.18-3-vserver-686" from debian etch, which has lot of problem. I'm told that i should switch to the one from debian sid, but i dont know how to do that. Do you have any hint ?
1172238690 M * Wonka use apt-config to add sid to your sources.list
1172238731 M * Wonka and read about apt.conf and apt_preferences if you do not want to upgrade everything from etch to sid.
1172238848 M * orzel k
1172239446 J * Piet_ hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org
1172239519 M * Vanzetti Wonka, have you an idea for my quesion ?
1172239615 M * Wonka not if you don't have access to the host system
1172239621 M * Wonka and then it should be trivial
1172239674 M * Vanzetti Wonka, i have
1172239675 M * Vanzetti ;)
1172239684 M * Vanzetti it's my personnal computer
1172239692 M * Wonka with debian, you could use debootstrap
1172239703 M * Wonka other distros: no idea.
1172239713 M * Vanzetti Wonka, but if I want to install redhat on a debian host ?
1172239715 M * Wonka unless you use one of the many tarballs flying around
1172239717 M * Vanzetti or centos
1172239731 M * Vanzetti where can i find those tarballs ?
1172239806 M * daniel_hozac apt-get install yum; vserver ... build -m yum ... -- -d centos4
1172239851 M * Vanzetti daniel_hozac, oh ok ! thanks
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1172240089 M * Wonka daniel_hozac: could be worth adding that to http://linux-vserver.org/Building_Guest_Systems...
1172240181 M * Vanzetti mount: mount point /etc/rpm does not exist
1172240182 M * Vanzetti :s
1172240259 M * orzel what is the recommanded debian package for vserver ? I'm about to install this one, for production : l
1172240260 M * orzel http://ftp.de.debian.org sid/main linux-image-2.6.18-4-vserver-686 2.6.18.dfsg.1-11
1172240264 M * orzel is that ok?
1172240282 M * orzel i need a really stable one.
1172240304 M * Vanzetti orzel, i think the best is to patch a kernel
1172240345 M * Vanzetti and compile yourself
1172240438 M * daniel_hozac Wonka: it's on my TODO-list.
1172240446 M * orzel why is that ? i dont know anything about vserver, i dont follow latest patch, tests, and so on. This is typically the job of a distribution, no ? i guess most people would do that better than me.
1172240486 M * borgfish well its not an ordinary packet to be maintained i guess
1172240494 M * Vanzetti orzel, oh scuze i don't see that debian provide packages
1172240500 M * daniel_hozac Vanzetti: mkdir /etc/rpm, the Debian rpm package is broken.
1172240506 M * Vanzetti daniel_hozac, ok thanks
1172240507 M * borgfish see latest stable 2.0.21 vserver kernelpatch is for 2.6.17.13 not 2.6.18
1172240514 M * daniel_hozac (well, _weird_ at least)
1172240520 M * borgfish and that maintainer even didnt write which vserver version is in there
1172240528 M * daniel_hozac borgfish: changelog has it.
1172240562 M * borgfish sure. well anyways i like own kernels more hehe
1172240630 M * orzel i do use own kernel on everything i own (several servers and computers). But this server is critical for a client, i dont want to play, i would prefer a kind of 'official', well-tested kernel
1172240643 M * orzel are you trying to tell me that debian vserver packages are not to be trusted ?
1172240656 M * orzel i was also confused by the fact they don't specify vserver version...
1172240721 M * borgfish no i dont know the packages
1172240739 M * borgfish i tried gentoo packages once but they were not useful on sparc arch
1172240856 M * daniel_hozac orzel: you have to decide if they're trustworthy.
1172240874 M * daniel_hozac personally i'd be somewhat discouraged by the fact that a known broken kernel is still in their to-be-stable release..
1172240899 M * borgfish i guess they all switched to unstable hehe
1172240948 M * orzel daniel_hozac:  i dont know anything about debian/vserver, that's why i would prefer some people in the know, (or in the trust) to tell me
1172240978 M * orzel i'm using gentoo official packages on other computers, i'm perfectly ok with those. Those one i can recommand : i've been using them for >1year
1172240994 M * orzel i though debian was supposed to be more serious/stable thangentoo :(
1172241005 M * borgfish well since i cannot say anything about the packages: the self compiled kernels always used to work for me! since years
1172241042 M * borgfish 3 woody systems and 5 sarge systems over the time none broke
1172241065 M * borgfish i always take the latest stable vserver patch and the corresponding kernel
1172241099 M * borgfish only thing incompatible with debian stable programs i encountered was the FUSE mod 
1172241118 M * borgfish backports from debian unstable helped
1172241377 M * orzel ok.
1172241429 M * orzel do anybody here knows what the problem is with linux-vserver in etch ? they use a old, broken vserver patch ? they did something wrong with integration ?
1172241434 M * orzel (does)
1172241453 M * daniel_hozac it's using a broken patch, yes.
1172241519 M * orzel ok, thx
1172241588 M * orzel do you have any idea how to know the vserver patch version used ? it doesn't appear nor in package name, nor in /proc/version
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1172241689 M * daniel_hozac the changelog.
1172241694 M * daniel_hozac only way, AFAIK.
1172241708 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1172241719 M * Bertl morning folks!
1172241727 M * daniel_hozac morning Bertl!
1172241744 M * borgfish hey bertl
1172241789 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: could you give rc14 a spin/test
1172241807 M * Bertl I installed it in princeton too, if you prefer :)
1172241819 M * orzel ok, so etch is using 2.0.2.2-rc8. You say it's broken.. ok.
1172241846 J * lilalinux ~plasma@dslb-084-058-203-171.pools.arcor-ip.net
1172242024 M * orzel and sid uses 2.0.2.2-rc9.
1172242036 M * orzel according to topic,those are too much recent.
1172242058 M * orzel mm, and i'm using 2.2.0-rc11 on my gentoo server. ( this one works well!)
1172242058 M * Vanzetti daniel_hozac, which distro can i install ?
1172242131 M * borgfish i always take the stable ones this would be 2.021
1172242166 M * Bertl I'd go for the upcoming stable 2.2.0-rc14 ...
1172242215 M * Bertl but yes, the older stable releases should be fine 
1172242226 M * matti Bertl: :))
1172242234 M * Bertl okay, off for now .. back a little later ...
1172242241 M * Bertl hey matti!
1172242245 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
1172242255 J * derjohn ~derjohn@80.69.41.2
1172242271 M * orzel any known problem with 2.0.2.2-rc9 ?
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1172242831 J * voyager ~chatzilla@chello084115138242.1.graz.surfer.at
1172242967 M * voyager does someone have installed vserver on ubuntu feisty ? (7.04),  i´m looking for a kernel patch for 2.6.20-8-generic
1172243058 J * michal` ~michal@www.rsbac.org
1172243146 J * m`m`h ~simba@deb30.mgts.by
1172243157 M * Bertl_oO voyager: try the patches here http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/
1172243172 M * voyager dank dir bertl
1172243176 J * kotfare ~maha@main-gate-03.albaniaonline.net
1172243183 M * Bertl_oO voyager: and keep in mind that the ubuntu gcc toolchain is broken, so use gcc 33 for the tools
1172243202 M * voyager ok
1172243247 M * derjohn Bertl_oO, hello :) did you consider adding the include to jffs2/ioctl.c and replace the pre4 patch in-place? or is a pre5 in sight?
1172243291 M * kotfare can someone advise me how to limit the internet speed for some pc ?
1172243320 M * voyager patch-2.6.20-vs2.3.0.10.1.diff    is this the right one,  or need i other patches too ?
1172243323 M * Bertl_oO derjohn: was already added, pre5 to come soon
1172243343 M * Bertl_oO kotfare: tc (see traffic shaping howto)
1172243363 M * Bertl_oO voyager: you have to try a few of them if you are going to use the ubuntu source
1172243376 M * Bertl_oO voyager: I went with a recent mainline kernel on feisty
1172243384 M * Bertl_oO okay, really off now ...
1172243389 M * derjohn uh? i wgetted yesterday, there it wasnt. hm, when will pre5 come ? I just reachted the point where by .deb-based kernel packerl is being compiled ....
1172243394 M * derjohn Bertl_oO, bye
1172243403 M * voyager bye
1172243602 M * kotfare can u give me some examples
1172243614 M * kotfare im just a wanna-be-a-beginner
1172243658 M * kotfare some examles how to traffic shapping ?
1172243735 Q * voyager Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.77 [Firefox 2.0.0.1/2006120418]
1172243877 M * derjohn kotfare, for learing tc you are on the wrong channel here. this channel is vserver specific. maybe you should check out the lart  webiste.
1172243903 J * gerrit ~gerrit@bi01p1.co.us.ibm.com
1172243979 M * derjohn kotfare, http://lartc.org/ might be a goog starting point.
1172244084 J * NickNick ~11@ctv-213-164-111-114.vinita.lt
1172244202 M * derjohn *good
1172244412 P * NickNick 
1172244540 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1172244546 M * Bertl back now .. for a little
1172244579 M * Bertl derjohn: was already added to my tree :)
1172244642 M * derjohn Bertl, what was added? ah, the pre5? /me pours a little water on Bertl's tree.
1172244658 M * Bertl no, the jffs2 fix (and other fixes :)
1172244776 M * derjohn currently drbd 0.7.23 doesn want to compile. drivers/block/drbd/drbd_fs.c:31:26: error: linux/config.h: No such file or directory ... mut I think VServer is not the cause for that fail. or do we add something to block-device drivers ?
1172244904 M * Bertl yes, we do add some checks, but this looks like an older patch
1172244917 M * Bertl i.e. linux/config.h should be gone by now
1172245007 M * Bertl can some debian/ubuntu guy give me a hint how I would find the package which contains zlib.h?
1172245426 Q * derjohn Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1172245792 M * mjt Bertl: zlib1g-dev
1172245809 M * mjt don't ask me why it's named this way ;)
1172245925 M * Bertl yeah, I figured that via google
1172245942 M * Bertl but I think, google is _not_ the ubuntu package management tool :)
1172245978 M * Bertl so what I actually asked is _how_ would I figure that, if I knew I was looking for zlib.h?
1172246167 J * derjohn ~derjohn@80.69.41.2
1172246290 M * Loki|muh http://packages.ubuntu.com/
1172246294 M * Loki|muh there the last form
1172246306 M * Loki|muh is for searching files in packages
1172246325 M * Loki|muh s/ubuntu.com/debian.org/ for debian packages ;)
1172246333 M * Loki|muh as they differ from times to times
1172246356 M * Bertl hmm, and there is no way to do that 'offline' with apt?
1172246366 M * Loki|muh sure, there is
1172246386 M * Loki|muh for every package there is tool named apt-file, if I'm not mistaken
1172246471 M * Loki|muh and for installed packages, you can use dpkg --search filename-search-pattern
1172246502 M * Bertl obviously the package is not installed, otherwise I would not be looking for it :)
1172246528 M * Bertl and apt-file doesn't exist here, maybe you mean apt-cache?
1172246546 M * Loki|muh you must install apt-file before, its an extra package
1172246552 M * Loki|muh sorry for not mentioning it
1172246568 M * Bertl ah, okay, let's check that then ...
1172246571 M * Loki|muh it must be initialised with: apt-file update before searching is possible afair
1172246634 M * Bertl apt-file search zlib.h
1172246640 M * Bertl gives me no results
1172246693 M * Loki|muh yes, as I said, you must run apt-file update before
1172246717 M * Loki|muh ;)
1172246799 M * Loki|muh which downloads for me a 8MB file containing the necessary information
1172246816 M * Bertl I did, it didn't doo that
1172246825 M * Bertl (i.e. download stuff :)
1172246835 M * Loki|muh oh
1172246848 M * Bertl it returns immediately
1172246857 M * Loki|muh hmmmmmm
1172246873 M * Bertl okay, let's not bother with that anylonger, I'll use google for that :)
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1172248250 J * ema ~ema@lart.galliera.it
1172248750 M * kotfare i need some help with apt-get 
1172248767 M * kotfare anyone looking for regards from me ?
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1172248859 M * Bertl kotfare: well, I already made the mistake to confuse this channel with #debian or #ubuntu .. please don't make the same one :)
1172248907 M * kotfare isnt apt-get used on debian ?
1172248948 M * Bertl yes, but this here is the Linux-VServer channel :)
1172248978 M * Bertl so if you have issues with vapt-get or something Linux-VServer related, you are prefectly right here ...
1172249016 M * kotfare ops
1172249041 Q * Vudu Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1172249043 M * kotfare just a sec before i saw the 'v'
1172249130 P * kotfare 
1172249390 J * Vudumen 100d139b96@217.20.138.14
1172249606 J * stefani ~stefani@flute.radonc.washington.edu
1172250050 M * yang hello Bertl, any progress with mips?
1172250213 M * Bertl not yet, did ralf get it too boot? did he try?
1172250308 M * matti :]
1172250569 M * Bertl yang: also, did you maybe get around trying the debian 2.6.18.4 kernel?
1172250590 M * yang Bertl: I think Ralf hasn't done it yet
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1172250646 M * Bertl I'm going to give the new QEMU a try with the mips arch, just to see if that works or doesn't work out as expected ...
1172250808 J * bonbons ~bonbons@83.222.38.57
1172250818 M * Bertl evening bonbons!
1172250837 M * bonbons evening Bertl!
1172250880 M * yang Bertl: Ralf is being quite busy, if we wait for him, it can take long
1172250967 M * Bertl well, if it is a kernel regression, I'm not really interested in hunting it down .. i.e. we will wait until it is fixed ... if it is just a config issue, we should definitely be able to figure a working config
1172250980 M * Bertl maybe next time we try with the debian config
1172251112 M * yang Bertl: you can take a look at 2.6.17 config (debian) if it can help you?
1172251141 M * Bertl let's try with debian 2.6.18 first, as suggested by ralf
1172251513 M * yang linux-image-2.6.18-4-r4k-ip22
1172251586 M * Bertl yep, can we try that one?
1172251647 M * yang ok
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1172252381 J * bj ~bj@insanefactory.com
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1172252904 J * lilalinux ~plasma@80.69.41.2
1172253373 M * yang Bertl: Linux io 2.6.18-4-r4k-ip22 #1 Wed Feb 21 15:32:46 UTC 2007 mips64 GNU/Linux
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1172254284 J * Bertl herbert@IRC.13thfloor.at
1172254384 J * infowolfe ~infowolfe@c-67-164-195-129.hsd1.ut.comcast.net
1172254424 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: i'm just now looking at rc14, why the move of REALPID to pid_task?
1172255759 N * phedny phedny_
1172255868 J * gerrit ~gerrit@bi01p1.co.us.ibm.com
1172255906 J * shedi ~siggi@ftth-237-144.hive.is
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1172256058 J * phedny ~mark@ip56538143.direct-adsl.nl
1172257242 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: it is basically a try to simplify the lookup, without affecting the other stuff, not sure it will work out as expected though
1172257444 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: if you think that is a bad idea .. please let me know :)
1172257581 M * daniel_hozac well, i think all of the PIDTYPE_REALPID/PIDTYPE_PID conversions ought to be in one place.
1172257613 J * ema ~ema@lart.galliera.it
1172258522 M * Bertl one place being? IIRC, I moved it 5 lines up or so :)
1172258561 M * daniel_hozac yeah, but it's in two functions now.
1172258579 M * daniel_hozac so pid_task supports using REALPID, but it's no different from using PID.
1172258580 M * Bertl yes, the advantage is that I do not have to special case it that way
1172258631 M * daniel_hozac ah, right, the check in find_task_by_pid_type would require an extra variable...
1172258643 M * Bertl but if it has some kind of bad side-effect, we can change that easily, it wouldn't change the result ... 
1172258659 M * Bertl but, IIRC I checked the callers, and it looked fine to me
1172258682 M * daniel_hozac i don't think it'd have any side-effects at all.
1172259326 M * daniel_hozac rc14 fixes renice at least.
1172259379 M * Bertl okay, so I'm going to suggest to test that then (on the ML)
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1172259623 J * phedny ~mark@ip56538143.direct-adsl.nl
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1172261626 J * vaq ~ZagrebA@0605ds1-taa.0.fullrate.dk
1172261638 Q * FaUl_ Read error: Operation timed out
1172261642 J * FaUl immo@shell.chaostreff-dortmund.de
1172261681 M * vaq Hello, i have a issue with vserver, when i try to ssh to the server i gave the virtual machine i get logged in to the real server instead (same root pw) if i user a different root pw i get acces denied = there is a routning problem or what? If i vserver test enter i get into the virtual machine. Any ideas on how to fix this?
1172261841 J * Roey ~katz@h-69-3-4-130.mclnva23.covad.net
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1172262071 M * mjt vaq: you have to tell your host sshd to bind to a particular address instead of a wildcard (all addresses)
1172262127 M * vaq aha
1172262223 J * grzegorz ~grzegorz@83.2.110.155
1172262321 J * WorkRoey ~katz@h-69-3-4-130.mclnva23.covad.net
1172262364 Q * Roey Read error: Connection reset by peer
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1172262777 J * sladen paul@starsky.19inch.net
1172262811 M * Bertl welcome grzegorz!
1172263116 M * grzegorz hi, I have one questipn about vserver with lvm and quota
1172263144 M * grzegorz how automaticaly starts/stop vserver to proper configure vroot device and mount lvm volume for vserver
1172263176 M * grzegorz I put commands to configure vroot device and mount lvm volume to 'initialize' script and that works well
1172263225 M * grzegorz but commands to umount lvm volume and deconfigure vroot device in postpost-stop not work as I want
1172263267 M * grzegorz vserver lvm device is busy
1172263270 M * Bertl hmm, I guess you can avoid 90% of the shutdown stuff
1172263285 M * Bertl the thing is, you actually want to put the lvm mount in the fstab
1172263302 P * stefani I'm Parting (the water)
1172263303 M * Bertl this way, it will be mounted inside the proper context in the first place
1172263315 M * Bertl and thus it will be automatically disposed on guest shutdown
1172263335 M * Bertl the vroot device, OTOH, should not be a problem to setup in the pre and post scripts
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1172263791 J * Johnnie ~jdlewis@jdlewis.org
1172263792 M * grzegorz thanks, thats works 
1172263820 M * grzegorz i use that howto before http://www.13thfloor.at/old/VServer/HowTo_LVMQ.shtml
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1172263923 M * grzegorz is vserver has any solution for quota on shared partition on linux 2.6?
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1172264600 J * Hunger Hunger.hu@Hunger.hu
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1172265096 J * SNy 45f70c1409@bmx-chemnitz.de
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1172265218 J * grzegorz ~grzegorz@83.2.110.155
1172265245 Q * grzegorz 
1172266132 J * yarihm ~yarihm@84-75-123-221.dclient.hispeed.ch
1172266209 J * deEvilCat ~archangel@85.105.124.233
1172266296 M * deEvilCat hi all
1172266374 M * deEvilCat does any body know if i can add/replace/remove ip address to/from a running guest vserver
1172266655 J * Aiken ~james@ppp126-23.lns2.bne4.internode.on.net
1172266802 M * deEvilCat nobody?
1172266846 M * SNy No offence, but are you familiar with the concept of patience?
1172267564 M * deEvilCat none taken, i know the concept, i just have difficulties with it, sorry :)
1172267789 M * SNy Heh.
1172267807 M * SNy Normally, Bertl should be here.
1172267817 M * SNy But apparently, he ain't.
1172267828 M * SNy I can't help you. Just idling.
1172268021 M * deEvilCat maybe he'll be the one who teaches me waiting a bit.
1172268161 J * me ~me@p548AA415.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
1172268166 M * me Hi.
1172268181 M * me I've got here a very serious problem with one vserver of our customers
1172268210 M * me I've written a traffic daemon logger which access all datas about the cacct interface in proc
1172268265 M * me http://nopaste.linux-dev.org/?1211
1172268296 M * bonbons deEvilCat: it's supported, but you should use .212 or more recent utils
1172268311 M * me If this would be real, this customer has made more than one million terrabyte traffic in 20 minutes with one ventrilo server
1172268320 M * me it's a debian etch 64 bit system
1172268345 M * me I think it's a bug, that the cacct interface shows so high values, or?
1172268371 M * bonbons the command to do that is naddress
1172268459 M * deEvilCat bonbons: thank you, i can find my way from here
1172268516 M * me what's there wrong?
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1172269366 M * me http://nopaste.linux-dev.org/?1212 Here's the problem detailed explained. Is this a known bug?
1172269395 J * Aiken ~james@ppp126-23.lns2.bne4.internode.on.net
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1172269449 J * Aiken ~james@ppp126-23.lns2.bne4.internode.on.net
1172270033 J * gerrit ~gerrit@bi01p1.co.us.ibm.com
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1172271141 M * Bertl me: what kernel/patch version?
1172271188 M * me Bertl, hmm how can I see that detailed? I'm using the debian packages, version 2.6.18-4-vserver-amd64
1172271225 M * me and there's an error in my report, it seems at this point of failure was at ~ 4 gb
1172271226 M * Bertl ah, I guess I know what it is ...
1172271246 M * Bertl the counters in the debian version overflow at 32bit
1172271267 M * Bertl i.e. you get a turnaround on 2^31 to negative values
1172271267 M * me but this is a 64 bit kernel
1172271280 M * Bertl yes, and it is fixed in all recent mainline patches
1172271290 M * Bertl debian has to catch up on that though ...
1172271302 M * Bertl let me dig out the patch which fixes this
1172271308 M * me could you give me that patches please? then I can add these to the report
1172271387 M * Bertl http://people.linux-vserver.org/~dhozac/p/k/delta-longatomic-fix01.diff
1172271416 M * Bertl you can work around that issue from userspace too, but just clipping the counters to 32bit
1172271452 M * me and this patch is compatible with the one version in debian?
1172271475 M * Bertl I guess it should be fairly compatible with a bunch of kernels
1172271515 M * Bertl but if it doesn't apply without issues, it should be easy to adjust, it's not really complicated
1172271533 J * waldi ~waldi@bblank.thinkmo.de
1172271535 M * waldi hi
1172271546 M * Bertl of course, you might want to contact the debian folks to fix this ...
1172271557 M * Bertl evening waldi!
1172271570 M * waldi Bertl: is the cacct overflow fixed in 2.2/2.3?
1172271576 M * Bertl yep
1172271585 M * Bertl was fixed around rc9
1172271591 M * me Bertl, submitted :)
1172271614 M * me what a foul, that the maintainer team didn't apply such a patch
1172271616 N * DoberMann DoberMann[ZZZzzz]
1172271625 M * Bertl waldi: you might also be strongly interested in rc14 changes
1172271641 M * waldi hmm?
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1172272568 J * gerrit ~gerrit@bi01p1.co.us.ibm.com
1172272640 M * Bertl me, but if zou are going to compile a kernel, it might be advised to go for 2.2.0-rc14 anyway
1172272651 M * Bertl *you
1172272678 M * me Bertl, the problem is, this is a productiv system, I can't play with it
1172272694 M * me the customers will kill us or leave us
1172272772 M * me normaly I'm always interested in new upstream versions with ther innovations :)
1172272781 M * me s/ther/their
1172273013 M * Bertl well, fact is, the upstream version has a bunch of bugs fixed still there in debian .. but as usual, the call is yours :)
1172273108 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: ping?
1172273302 M * Bertl Hollow: ping?
1172273305 Q * Hollow Read error: Connection reset by peer
1172273331 J * Hollow ~hollow@styx.xnull.de
1172273662 M * Bertl Hollow: people.linux-vserver.org has issues ...
1172273679 J * FCOJ ~mordur@dsl-201-4.hive.is
1172273703 M * Bertl welcome FCOJ!
1172273964 J * n01101111x ~nox@static.88-198-17-175.clients.your-server.de
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1172274635 M * Hollow Bertl: yeah, there are some routing problems.. (again)
1172274997 M * Bertl okay, just wanted you to know ...
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