1171756810 M * notasnark I'm guessing that at some point I upgraded the vserver-utils to a version that didn't entirely support older kernels. Since I haven't rebooted the machine for ~250 days, the kernel never got upgraded. 1171757174 M * notasnark btw, I notice that a large proportion of the recent changes have been made by a dhozac. Many thanks. vservers is really useful. 1171757288 M * daniel_hozac my pleasure! 1171757443 J * derjohn ~derjohn@80.69.41.2 1171757713 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1171759588 Q * orzel Remote host closed the connection 1171761067 J * ntrs ~ntrs@68-188-55-120.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com 1171763665 J * muuhDBX ~foo@a213-22-7-80.cpe.netcabo.pt 1171764250 Q * mEDI_S Read error: Connection reset by peer 1171764356 J * meandtheshell ~markus@85.125.231.0 1171764597 J * mEDI_S ~medi@snipah.com 1171765594 M * ntrs Hi all. 1171765624 Q * pstader 1171768672 Q * ZLinux Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1171772996 P * muuhDBX 1171775721 Q * s0undt3ch Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1171775740 J * s0undt3ch ~s0undt3ch@80.69.34.154 1171776437 J * DoberMann_ ~james@AToulouse-156-1-32-64.w81-49.abo.wanadoo.fr 1171776544 Q * DoberMann[ZZZzzz] Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1171778173 Q * bronson Quit: Ex-Chat 1171778916 J * muuhDBX ~foo@a213-22-7-80.cpe.netcabo.pt 1171780744 J * Aiken ~james@ppp109-15.lns2.bne4.internode.on.net 1171784615 J * lyli1 ~eric@dynamic-acs-24-154-33-9.zoominternet.net 1171785001 Q * muuhDBX Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1171785991 J * ZLinux ~ZLinux@88.213.57.11 1171786485 J * dna ~naucki@98-209-dsl.kielnet.net 1171786493 Q * dna 1171791063 J * bonbons ~bonbons@83.222.38.57 1171791776 J * x-Dieu ~tm@p5085E4C0.dip.t-dialin.net 1171791865 P * x-Dieu 1171793420 N * DoberMann_ DoberMann 1171794580 J * Beuc ~yo@perso.beuc.net 1171794614 M * Beuc Hi. I have a weird behavior in vserver: if I type 'su nobody' within a vserver, it works. If I type 1171794637 M * Beuc 'nice su nobody' then I get: "su: Permission denied" 1171794662 M * Beuc This prevents the updatedb cron job from starting. Any clue where this comes from? :) 1171794683 M * daniel_hozac a guest cannot lower its nice value. 1171794712 M * Beuc However "nice ls" do work. 1171794729 M * daniel_hozac yes, as expected. 1171794750 M * daniel_hozac i'm guessing you're using pam_limits which sets a nice value of 0 or similar. 1171794788 M * daniel_hozac if you strace su, i'm sure you'll see a sys_nice/sys_setpriority which is trying to lower the nice value. 1171794894 M * Beuc setpriority(PRIO_PROCESS, 0, 0) indeed. Duh I wasn't expecting that ;) 1171794935 M * daniel_hozac so really, nice su ... is moot. 1171794944 M * daniel_hozac if anything, what you want is su nice ... 1171794996 J * dna ~naucki@210-194-dsl.kielnet.net 1171795067 M * notasnark Hi Daniel. I think I've found out why my server rebooted last night and caused those vserver statup issues. 1171795070 M * Beuc Well I was looking at disabling updatedb, and I saw it wasn't started - so actually it's better that way :) 1171795090 M * notasnark I woke up this morning to discover it was completely dead. I think I need a new PSU :-( 1171795260 Q * Johnnie cation.oftc.net kinetic.oftc.net 1171795616 J * Johnnie ~jdlewis@jdlewis.org 1171796352 J * sharkjaw ~gab@216-158-6.0503.adsl.tele2.no 1171802973 Q * Aiken Quit: Leaving 1171806769 Q * lyli1 Remote host closed the connection 1171806769 Q * mcp Read error: Connection reset by peer 1171806775 J * mcp ~hightower@wolk-project.de 1171807548 Q * Johnnie charon.oftc.net kinetic.oftc.net 1171808574 Q * shedi Quit: Leaving 1171809050 Q * rob-84x^ Quit: brb 1171809061 J * rob-84x^ ~rob@submarine.ath.cx 1171809224 J * jmcaricand ~jmcarican@d90-144-120-108.cust.tele2.fr 1171809481 N * DoberMann DoberMann[deblaye] 1171810259 J * Johnnie ~jdlewis@jdlewis.org 1171810419 Q * Johnnie Server closed connection 1171810439 J * Johnnie ~jdlewis@jdlewis.org 1171810480 Q * fb Quit: leaving 1171813927 Q * derjohn Read error: Connection reset by peer 1171813942 J * derjohn ~derjohn@80.69.41.2 1171814950 J * shedi ~siggi@dsl-149-109-85.hive.is 1171815716 Q * ensc Remote host closed the connection 1171815825 Q * jmcaricand Quit: KVIrc 3.2.4 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/ 1171816425 N * DoberMann[deblaye] DoberMann 1171816651 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p54B4E2A7.dip.t-dialin.net 1171818598 Q * DreamerC Quit: leaving 1171818615 J * DreamerC ~dreamerc@125-225-109-38.dynamic.hinet.net 1171818834 J * pstader ~pstader@pD95073CC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1171818843 M * pstader hi there 1171818846 M * daniel_hozac hello 1171818861 M * pstader vserver up and running ;-) 1171818874 M * daniel_hozac congratulations! 1171818878 M * pstader thanks 1171819149 M * pstader had plenty fun yesterday 1171819153 M * pstader server wouldn't boot 1171819167 M * pstader turned out that sata controller support isn't enough and scsi disk support is needed as well 1171819168 M * pstader doh 1171819851 Q * phreak`` Quit: leaving 1171819864 J * phreak`` ~phreak``@deimos.barfoo.org 1171819875 Q * shedi Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1171820221 Q * phreak`` Quit: leaving 1171820234 J * phreak`` ~phreak``@deimos.barfoo.org 1171820922 Q * phreak`` Quit: updating irssi 1171822652 J * shedi ~siggi@ftth-237-144.hive.is 1171823226 M * matti pstader: Congratulations! 1171823226 M * matti ;] 1171823382 M * pstader thanks. 1171823389 M * pstader now i am bouncing my head how to assign ip's hehe 1171825086 J * phreak`` ~phreak``@deimos.barfoo.org 1171825312 M * pstader what is that context good for? 1171825319 Q * phreak`` 1171825333 M * pstader vserver doesn't start until i create the context file as suggested in the faq 1171825355 J * phreak`` ~phreak``@deimos.barfoo.org 1171825495 Q * phreak`` 1171825506 J * phreak`` ~phreak``@deimos.barfoo.org 1171825555 M * daniel_hozac pstader: think of the xid as the uid of a guest. 1171825850 M * pstader ok 1171825859 M * pstader so it just needs to be unique for each vserver? 1171825859 J * ema ~ema@lart.galliera.it 1171825867 M * daniel_hozac yes, and between 2 and 49151. 1171825871 M * pstader ok 1171826600 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1171826613 Q * daniel_hozac cation.oftc.net arion.oftc.net 1171826613 Q * Vudu cation.oftc.net arion.oftc.net 1171826613 Q * UukGoblin cation.oftc.net arion.oftc.net 1171826613 Q * Roey cation.oftc.net arion.oftc.net 1171826613 Q * FaUl cation.oftc.net arion.oftc.net 1171826613 Q * neuralis cation.oftc.net arion.oftc.net 1171826613 Q * micah cation.oftc.net arion.oftc.net 1171826623 M * Bertl morning folks! 1171826657 J * neuralis ~krstic@solarsail.hcs.harvard.edu 1171826657 J * FaUl immo@shell.chaostreff-dortmund.de 1171826657 J * Roey ~katz@h-69-3-4-130.mclnva23.covad.net 1171826657 J * UukGoblin ~jaaa@sr-fw1.router.uk.clara.net 1171826657 J * micah ~micah@micah.riseup.net 1171826657 J * Vudu 35d83f8466@217.20.138.14 1171826657 J * daniel_hozac ~daniel@c-2c1472d5.010-230-73746f22.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se 1171826660 A * Bertl just arrived in Cambridge ... 1171826734 M * daniel_hozac how was the flight? 1171826949 M * Bertl actually it was quite nice ... via london 1171826953 J * lylix ~eric@dynamic-acs-24-154-33-9.zoominternet.net 1171826982 M * daniel_hozac that's good. 1171827035 M * daniel_hozac lylix: something i've been meaning to ask you for a while, was http://linux-vserver.org/index.php?title=Downloads&diff=2171&oldid=2083 intentional/were you aware of it? 1171827182 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: what are you doing there? business or pleasure? 1171827210 M * lylix daniel_hozac: yes, the repo is available to the public, and published at one time 1171827249 M * daniel_hozac so it should be on the page then, no? 1171827259 M * daniel_hozac (that diff removed it) 1171827267 M * lylix sure... prob gg to be updating the images on the page soon as well 1171827299 M * daniel_hozac ok, i'll readd it. 1171827330 M * yang hello Bertl 1171827401 M * lylix are there any bcaps or flags that when set, would blow up sched_hard? 1171827408 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: well, basically business, but it is a pleasure ... more details to come 1171827458 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: but you can probably figure it out on your own, if I tell you that neuralis invited me :) 1171827476 M * daniel_hozac ah :) 1171827508 M * lylix been testing vcd using a kernel that matches a util-vserver system, and sched_hard is not putting things on hold, tested using cpuhog in a guest on both systems 1171827565 M * daniel_hozac is vcd setting the flag/configuring the scheduler? 1171827569 M * lylix the tokens are moving correctly, just not actually scheduling processes 1171827584 M * lylix yes, here is the flags map in vcd based guest: 1171827590 M * lylix 00000034020f0110 1171827612 M * lylix the 3<<48 concerns me too 1171827622 M * lylix isnt that setting PROLIFIC? 1171827711 M * daniel_hozac there's no 3<<48 in that. 1171827717 M * lylix flags in util-vserver system: 00000004020f0110 1171827729 M * lylix hmm, what is the upper-most 3 setting? 1171827735 M * daniel_hozac REBOOT_KILL|SC_HELPER 1171827772 M * Wonka http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/85485 *hmf* 1171827884 M * lylix k, so flags are sane then; bcaps on vcd: ffffffffb44c05ff 1171827895 M * Hollow lylix: vlist -vx-flags 00000034020f0110 1171827904 M * lylix util-vserver: 00000000344c05ff 1171827934 M * lylix Hollow: tnx... cmd :) 1171827940 M * Hollow :) 1171827971 M * daniel_hozac b looks really bad. 1171827989 M * Hollow yeah, i have to fix the bcaps, i know 1171828008 M * Bertl lylix: but with util-vserver it works? 1171828012 M * daniel_hozac shouldn't change anything wrt. the scheduler. 1171828017 M * Hollow yeah .. 1171828024 M * lylix yes, scheduling set as 1/10 1/10 100 1000 1171828035 M * lylix actually, that is on the vcd system 1171828040 Q * yarihm Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1171828047 M * lylix and existing gust on a util-vserver system is 1/3 1171828061 M * lylix and cpuhog is maxing at 30-35% 1171828068 M * lylix on the vcd system, 100% 1171828079 M * Hollow same kernel? 1171828115 M * Bertl but the tokens are near zero? 1171828121 M * lylix vcd: 2.6.19-vs2.2.0-rc12 1171828135 M * lylix util-vserver: 2.6.19-vs2.2.0-rc5 1171828164 M * lylix yes, the tokens are being removed and added to what seems normal 1171828175 M * Hollow Bertl: the output of /proc/virtual/*/sched showed state = running, 35 tokens current, 100 min.. seems strange to me 1171828192 M * lylix vcd: cpu 0: 10898 618 0 6783703 26313250 RI 5 100 1000 1/10 1/10 0 0 1171828224 M * pstader did anyone already try to run vmware server "inside" a vserver? 1171828250 M * lylix 21541 root 25 0 1392 240 184 R 99.9 0.1 1:02.53 cpuhog 1171828340 M * Bertl lylix, Hollow: I assume the hard cpu scheduler flag is not set, or hard cpu scheduling is diabled 1171828362 M * Bertl the below min is fine in this case 1171828462 M * lylix Hard scheduling is enabled in the kernel, appears to be set in the flags (00000034020f0110) for the guest 1171828546 M * Bertl lylix: maybe try to recreate the issue with vcmd? 1171828561 M * Bertl okay, I need some rest now ... will be back later 1171828606 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1171828735 M * lylix k, we'll see what happens, tnx 1171829016 Q * sc0tt Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1171829056 Q * Johnnie Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1171829354 J * Johnnie ~jdlewis@jdlewis.org 1171830310 Q * sid3windr Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1171830317 J * sid3windr luser@bastard-operator.from-hell.be 1171832157 J * muuhDBX ~foo@a213-22-7-80.cpe.netcabo.pt 1171832620 J * Aiken ~james@ppp109-15.lns2.bne4.internode.on.net 1171832992 M * matti :) 1171833653 P * muuhDBX 1171834308 Q * sharkjaw Quit: Leaving 1171834870 P * Beuc Leaving 1171835241 J * dev-zero ~TizianoMu@gw.ptr-80-238-235-63.customer.ch.netstream.com 1171835249 M * dev-zero hi everyone 1171835327 M * dev-zero is it possible to start xterm in a vserver via SSH and X11-forward ? 1171836658 N * DoberMann DoberMann[ZZZzzz] 1171836730 M * bonbons dev-zero: I don't see why it wouldn't work if you SSH connection works 1171836914 M * dev-zero bonbons: well, I get the following: 1171836917 M * dev-zero X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication. 1171836917 M * dev-zero xterm Xt error: Can't open display: localhost:10.0 1171836934 M * dev-zero but if you say that it should work in general, I'll have to look for the error somewhere else 1171837010 M * bonbons I would say, check with a real host, if it works there, compare SSH configuration on the reals host and on the vserver 1171837063 M * bonbons if you can enable some more verbosity on the Xterm (or even some very basic X client) you may find where the error comes from 1171837108 M * bonbons dev-zero: what you may need to check and can cause trouble is the abscence of 127.0.0.1 inside of vserver guests! 1171837141 M * bonbons try changing you DISPLAY environment variable with :10.0 1171837178 M * bonbons unless SSH is offering the X11 tunnel via a unix socket in which case the IP level isolation has no influence 1171837547 M * dev-zero bonbons: well, your second last line was it 1171837572 M * bonbons what does localhost resolve to inside your vserver? 1171837585 M * dev-zero bonbons: changed the option X11UseLocalhost to no in sshd_config and added the guest's name to it's hosts file 1171837591 M * dev-zero 127.0.0.1 1171837597 M * bonbons maybe you should change /etc/hosts appropriately 1171837627 M * bonbons that possibly should correct the X11 over SSH as well (preventing similar issues with other applications at the same time) 1171837669 M * dev-zero well, it works now 1171837696 M * dev-zero bonbons: thanks! :) 1171837710 M * bonbons you're welcome! 1171838816 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1171839134 Q * dlezcano Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1171839230 Q * meandtheshell Quit: Leaving. 1171839280 Q * dna Quit: Verlassend 1171839652 M * pstader what happens when i reboot the host? do guests get shutdown gracously? like mysql for instance? 1171839710 Q * Aiken Quit: in anticipation of the power companies planned 6 hour blackout 1171841116 Q * ensc Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by ensc_)) 1171841126 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p54B4DF1D.dip.t-dialin.net 1171841153 J * olivierk_ ~olivier@olivierk.org 1171841261 Q * olivierk Ping timeout: 480 seconds