1170028836 M * EvilDI hi 1170028843 M * EvilDI i installed vserver 1170028848 Q * mnemoc Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1170028854 M * EvilDI i enter in but netowrking doesn't work 1170028860 M * EvilDI network 1170028866 M * daniel_hozac how do you mean? 1170028883 M * daniel_hozac have you made sure /etc/resolv.conf contains something, and that something is correct for your setup? 1170028920 M * EvilDI am /etc/network/interfaces doesn't contain anything 1170028946 M * daniel_hozac it shouldn't. 1170028950 M * EvilDI and ifconfig -a show no network 1170028955 M * daniel_hozac the networking is setup on the host. 1170028960 M * Bertl try with 'ip a l' 1170028970 M * EvilDI what 1170029000 M * EvilDI i have virtual interfaces on dedicated server 1170029009 M * EvilDI but when i started vserver 1170029018 M * EvilDI netowrk there is empty, nothing 1170029029 M * Bertl as I said, try 'ip a l' 1170029037 M * EvilDI what is this ? 1170029040 M * EvilDI where to 1170029055 M * Bertl inside the guest, it is a command like 'ls /' 1170029075 M * EvilDI i hget command not found 1170029087 M * Bertl then install iproute2 inside your guest 1170029118 M * Bertl ifconfig will see only a small fraction of linux networking 1170029144 M * Bertl it is very likely that your networking is setup properly, just ifconfig doesn't see it (yet) 1170029162 M * Bertl (btw, suggests that you have a very old kernel too) 1170029164 M * EvilDI how can i do that if i don't have access to network to install it 1170029176 M * Bertl did you verify that? 1170029177 M * EvilDI i have 2.6.19.2 1170029182 M * EvilDI yes 1170029187 M * EvilDI i try apt-get update 1170029194 M * EvilDI without any success 1170029197 M * Bertl hmm, then you indeed forgot to add an ip to your guest 1170029204 M * Bertl how was the guest created? 1170029231 M * EvilDI vserver braindead build -n braindead --force --hostname braindead-tracker.org --interface eth0:1:89.106.65.232/24 -m debootstrap -- -d sarge 1170029243 M * EvilDI is this even right 1170029247 J * mnemoc ~amery@kilo105.server4you.de 1170029251 M * Bertl you did add a :1: here 1170029261 M * Bertl --interface eth0:89.106.65.232/24 1170029262 M * Bertl or 1170029266 M * Bertl --interface 1=eth0:89.106.65.232/24 1170029270 M * EvilDI yes it is virtual interface on host 1170029283 M * Bertl if you already have that interface on the host 1170029290 M * EvilDI so second one 1170029298 M * Bertl (and in this case it is an alias, not a virtual interface) 1170029305 M * Bertl then you want the following: 1170029310 M * Bertl --interface 89.106.65.232/24 1170029322 M * EvilDI will this work 1170029325 M * Bertl but then you will have to bring eth0:1 up on the host 1170029330 M * EvilDI which one do i select 1170029338 M * EvilDI yes that's no problem 1170029340 M * EvilDI i want this 1170029341 M * Bertl so the more natural way would be the first one 1170029345 M * EvilDI i have to set traffic limit 1170029363 M * EvilDI so host will run checks with iptables 1170029379 M * EvilDI so do i use --interface 89.106.65.232/24 ? 1170029385 M * Bertl this could be done in the setup scripts too, but if you create it on the host, you would use this one 1170029405 M * Bertl btw, you can easily change that now in the config 1170029425 M * Bertl just stop the guest, enter the /etc/vservers/braindead/interfaces 1170029435 M * Bertl look out for a dir called '0' 1170029444 M * Bertl and remove all entries except for ip and prefix 1170029459 M * Bertl then touch a file called 'nodev' there 1170029474 M * Bertl (which means, that the device will not be created on startup) 1170029559 M * EvilDI am what do i do, i change ip to right one, and in dev delete all in it 1170029564 M * EvilDI what else shoudl i do 1170029596 M * Bertl in interfaces/0 you should have files 'ip' 'prefix' and 'nodev' 1170029601 M * EvilDI aha 1170029608 M * EvilDI shoud nodev be empty 1170029616 M * Bertl ip containsthe ip (89.106.65.232) and prefix contains 24 1170029631 M * Bertl the nodev just needs to exist 1170029634 M * EvilDI ok 1170029661 M * EvilDI THANKS 1170029661 M * EvilDI D: 1170029670 M * EvilDI networking is working 1170029670 M * Bertl you're welcome! 1170029670 M * EvilDI D: 1170029677 M * EvilDI am one question 1170029684 M * EvilDI if i later install new kernel 1170029693 M * EvilDI will vservers work then 1170029702 M * Bertl if it is a vserver kernel, yes :) 1170029718 M * crazy_penguin night to all 1170029725 M * Bertl night crazy_penguin! 1170029760 M * EvilDI ql then 1170029761 M * EvilDI :D 1170029762 Q * crazy_penguin Quit: Ex-Chat 1170029989 M * EvilDI hm i have problem 1170029997 M * EvilDI i install ssh 1170030004 M * EvilDI i try to login 1170030010 M * EvilDI but witout success 1170030017 M * EvilDI i set listenAdress to ip 1170030022 M * daniel_hozac on the host? 1170030022 M * Bertl because you probably end up on the host 1170030046 M * Bertl EvilDI: you have to restrict (the ListenAddess part) the host's sshd 1170030061 M * Bertl EvilDI: no need to change anything in the guest 1170030243 M * EvilDI pefect it works now 1170030243 M * EvilDI D: 1170030350 M * EvilDI tnx 1170030351 M * EvilDI again 1170030365 M * Bertl np 1170030424 M * EvilDI do you have maybe msn 1170030426 M * EvilDI :) 1170030602 J * dreamind ~dreamind@C2107.campino.wh.tu-darmstadt.de 1170030630 M * Bertl EvilDI: what's that? 1170030650 M * EvilDI msn, for chating 1170030667 M * EvilDI forget, if i will need help i know where to ask :) 1170030677 M * Bertl we have IRC, and we are chatting right now, no? 1170030686 M * daniel_hozac but MSN is so much more annoying! 1170030704 M * daniel_hozac :) 1170030757 M * EvilDI i know 1170030758 M * EvilDI ) 1170030759 M * EvilDI :) 1170030771 M * Bertl that's one of those proprietary tools which send you private data somewhere? 1170030813 M * dreamind Hi folks 1170030817 M * daniel_hozac hello 1170030818 M * Bertl welcome dreamind! 1170030821 M * dreamind hi Bertl :) 1170030823 M * dreamind hi daniel_hozac :) 1170030927 M * EvilDI am one question more, if vserver is started when main mashine restart 1170030939 M * EvilDI do vserver some back one after restart 1170030991 M * Bertl if you select them for automatic startup 1170031008 M * Bertl then the host restart will bring up those guests too 1170031024 M * Bertl if you do a restart inside the guest, it will be restarted on the host too 1170031070 M * EvilDI am where do i set automatic startup for guest 1170031105 M * daniel_hozac assuming you have enabled the vservers-default initscript, echo default > /etc/vservers//apps/init/mark 1170031143 M * EvilDI am i didn't do manually anything to enable it 1170031147 M * EvilDI how to enable it 1170031184 M * EvilDI am there is not file mark in init 1170031214 M * EvilDI ok i create it 1170031234 M * EvilDI how do i check if i have enabled the vservers-default initscript 1170031345 M * daniel_hozac depends on your distribution, but usually checking /etc/rc.d/ for symlink pointing to vservers-default would be a good idea. 1170031385 M * EvilDI yap i have enabled :) 1170031414 M * daniel_hozac so the symlink starts with an S? 1170031422 M * dreamind well have to get some sleep, nite folks :) 1170031426 M * EvilDI i check with tool rcconf 1170031428 Q * dreamind Quit: dreamind 1170031429 M * EvilDI and it is enabled 1170031430 M * EvilDI :) 1170031442 M * EvilDI am when guest want to reboot get this: 1170031443 M * EvilDI shutdown: /dev/initctl: No such file or directory 1170031443 M * EvilDI init: /dev/initctl: No such file or directory 1170031465 M * Bertl because you have no init inside the guest 1170031473 M * Bertl try reboot -f 1170031591 M * EvilDI it seem to work with -f 1170031601 M * EvilDI what can i do that -f won't be needed 1170031641 M * Bertl add another process (a separate init) to your guest 1170031651 M * Bertl but note, that has two drawbacks 1170031651 M * daniel_hozac or alias reboot='reboot -f' 1170031667 M * EvilDI so what do i do :P 1170031675 M * Bertl - first, you have one more process running inside your guest, which is not really needed as you can see 1170031697 M * EvilDI so only alias 1170031698 M * Bertl - second, you will not get those nice startup/shutdown messages when you start an init based guest 1170031710 M * EvilDI aha ok 1170031722 M * EvilDI can you make me command for aliasing command 1170031723 M * Bertl except for that, the separate init has the advantage that it will execute the inittab stuff properly 1170031738 M * Bertl alias reboot="reboot -f" 1170031753 M * Bertl as daniel already stated :) 1170031754 M * EvilDI hm how can i do that with one process more 1170031771 M * Bertl ah, you then have to change the init style from sysv to plain 1170031784 M * EvilDI ok i will it 1170031848 M * EvilDI yea, reboot on 2x 3Ghz is very fast :P 1170031899 M * Bertl especially for Linux-VServer guests :) 1170031952 M * EvilDI jap 1170031966 M * EvilDI it take sth like 3 s :D 1170031988 M * Bertl try to achieve that with a real system :) 1170032007 M * EvilDI btw how many VPS can i put on server like this, wtih 1 GB Ram 1170032024 M * Bertl veryy much depends on the guests 1170032033 M * EvilDI all just apache php mysql 1170032039 M * Bertl typically the CPU is not a limit at all 1170032053 M * EvilDI ram will probably be the problem 1170032059 M * Bertl first you hit memory limits, then you hit disk I/O limits 1170032081 M * EvilDI am how do i make for each vserver limit for memory 1170032085 M * EvilDI which file 1170032093 M * Bertl lycos tested real world setups with 150+ guests on a dual PIII with 3GB ram 1170032105 M * daniel_hozac http://linux-vserver.org/Memory_Limits 1170032117 M * Bertl they were still quite responsive 1170032138 Q * Aiken Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1170032164 M * Bertl I guess with a 2.2.x patch you can reach 200 and more on the same setup 1170032182 M * EvilDI am i don't have rlimit direcotry yer 1170032184 M * EvilDI yet 1170032189 M * EvilDI do i just create it 1170032191 M * Bertl just make it 1170032195 M * EvilDI k 1170032203 M * EvilDI so for 200 MB rama this mean 1170032208 M * EvilDI how big number 1170032232 M * Bertl your page size is probably 4k (x86) 1170032235 M * EvilDI 50 000 1170032255 M * EvilDI is 200 MB enough memory 1170032268 M * EvilDI i don't have feeling if it is enough 1170032273 M * Bertl check with /proc/virtual//limits how much it uses right now 1170032286 M * daniel_hozac (assuming it's already in production) 1170032287 M * Bertl then multiply that with some safety margin 1170032320 M * EvilDI am this number doesn't tell me anything 1170032321 M * EvilDI :D 1170032338 M * EvilDI which line do i look 1170032359 M * Bertl mainly those you want to set limits for :) 1170032373 M * Bertl check with the wiki page (for the limits) 1170032374 M * EvilDI am i don't know what each one of them mean 1170032398 M * EvilDI VM ? is this ram 1170032407 M * Bertl http://linux-vserver.org/Resource_Limits 1170032445 M * EvilDI am 1170032452 M * EvilDI can i paste here 1170032467 M * Bertl if you have more than a few lines use a pastebin 1170032474 M * Bertl (e.g. paste.linux-vserver.org) 1170032481 J * Aiken ~james@ppp108-217.lns2.bne4.internode.on.net 1170032487 M * Bertl morning Aiken! 1170032494 M * Aiken hi 1170032504 M * EvilDI http://paste.linux-vserver.org/973 1170032512 M * EvilDI how much does taking this vserver now ? 1170032516 J * FireEgl ~FireEgl@2001:5c0:84dc:1:211:9ff:feca:b042 1170032522 M * EvilDI how much ram ? 1170032602 M * Bertl 10645 pages currently with a max at 10969 1170032610 Q * meandtheshell Quit: Leaving. 1170032631 M * Bertl so roughly 44MB 1170032641 M * EvilDI aha so RSS mean ram :) 1170032642 M * EvilDI ok 1170032650 M * EvilDI so 200 MB is enough 1170032651 M * EvilDI :D 1170032655 M * Bertl RSS is the number of pages in ram, yes 1170032663 M * Bertl it has a hard and a soft limit 1170032672 M * EvilDI i read that 1170032674 M * Bertl the soft limit will be shown as 'RAM' inside the guest 1170032687 M * Bertl the hard limit will be 'RAM' + 'swap' 1170032691 M * EvilDI what happend if guest use all ram 1170032726 M * EvilDI does server start writing to disk 1170032762 M * EvilDI am 1170032788 M * EvilDI i make empty file /etc/vservers/braindead/rlimits/50000.hard 1170032790 M * EvilDI is this ok 1170032801 M * daniel_hozac no. 1170032815 M * Bertl but interesting idea :) 1170032829 M * EvilDI what then 1170032831 M * EvilDI :D 1170032832 M * EvilDI how 1170032863 M * Bertl RSS.hard with contents 50000 1170032882 M * Bertl which will give you 50000*4k RAM+swap 1170032919 M * EvilDI aha ok 1170032950 M * EvilDI where to set to limit processor usage to 20 % 1170032965 M * daniel_hozac rss.hard though, lowercase. 1170032977 M * daniel_hozac (i wonder if uppercase works...) 1170032984 M * EvilDI :) 1170032997 M * EvilDI probably not 1170033002 M * EvilDI what about CPU limit 1170033054 M * daniel_hozac http://linux-vserver.org/CPU_Scheduler and see the sched directory on the flower page. 1170033086 M * EvilDI where do i crate direcotry 1170033089 M * EvilDI and what files 1170033095 M * EvilDI and what do i enter in it 1170033121 M * daniel_hozac read the pages, and you shall find out. 1170033141 M * EvilDI could you please tell me :) 1170033237 M * EvilDI is this VXF_SCHED_HARD 1170033245 M * EvilDI but i don't know where to put it 1170033252 M * EvilDI doesn't write 1170033325 M * EvilDI enough for this night 1170033332 M * EvilDI i have to sleep 1170033338 M * EvilDI only 4 h to morning 1170033345 M * EvilDI so good night everbody here 1170033349 M * EvilDI see you tomorrow 1170033350 M * Bertl good night! 1170033356 Q * EvilDI Quit: AnacønÐa · "If it can be borrowed and it can be broken, you will borrow it and you will break it" 1170034645 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: hmm, 0.30.212 doesn't clone/set fs? 1170034665 M * daniel_hozac hmm? it certainly should. 1170034717 M * Bertl okay, maybe a bug on my side then .. let me double check that 1170034786 M * daniel_hozac vnamespace should clone(CLONE_NEWNS), and then set CLONE_FS|CLONE_NEWNS. 1170034896 M * Bertl I restructured the vx_*_space() stuff, now I get an oops on exit, which is very likely caused by wrong refcounting 1170034922 M * Bertl I've now added extensive debugging printk stuff to check the refcounting 1170034930 M * Bertl and the following caught my eye: 1170034936 M * Bertl [ 82.850559] ··a proxy=00000000[#0], proxy_cur=792fb9a0[#2], fs=00000000[#0], fs_cur=7bd5c460[#2] 1170034940 M * Bertl [ 82.852669] ··b proxy=00000000[#0], proxy_new=792fb9e0[#1], fs=00000000[#0], fs_new=00000000[#0] 1170034963 M * Bertl so now I have to figure why fs_new is obviously NULL :) 1170034988 M * daniel_hozac hehe. 1170035018 M * Bertl might be a stupid copy paste error as usual 1170035023 M * daniel_hozac is that the first or the second set? 1170035057 M * daniel_hozac because the second set should set CLONE_NEWUTS|CLONE_NEWIPC (via the compat branch in vc_ctx_create) 1170035079 M * Bertl http://paste.linux-vserver.org/974 1170035096 M * Bertl looks funny to me :) 1170035106 M * daniel_hozac oh, right, it's the other way around. 1170035138 M * daniel_hozac the second set would set CLONE_NEWNS|CLONE_FS, with the first happening during creation (duh). 1170035165 M * Bertl that was the guest start now 1170035170 M * daniel_hozac so i guess that should be correct. 1170035192 M * Bertl on enter I get more funny stuff :) 1170035208 M * Bertl http://paste.linux-vserver.org/975 1170035228 M * Bertl is that really all intentional? 1170035260 M * daniel_hozac humm, three times looks a bit excessive. 1170035262 M * Bertl afk, brb, getting something to eat 1170035329 M * daniel_hozac ah, thanks. that is a bug in the utils :) 1170035450 M * daniel_hozac hmm, were namespaces supported before migration? 1170035822 M * daniel_hozac yeah... ok. 1170038243 Q * Snow-Man Quit: leaving 1170038255 M * Bertl back now 1170038295 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: so everything fixed by now? :) 1170038328 J * Snow-Man ~sfrost@tamriel.snowman.net 1170038902 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: http://svn.linux-vserver.org/projects/util-vserver/changeset/2481 should fix it. 1170038915 M * Bertl excellent 1170038938 M * Bertl I guess I found and fixed the kernel side issue too ... 1170038945 M * daniel_hozac oh? 1170038946 M * Bertl testing in a few minutes 1170039124 M * Bertl btw, any idea what my micro test system is misssing here? 1170039128 M * Bertl lockfile: open(): No such file or directory 1170039247 M * daniel_hozac /var/lock? 1170039259 M * daniel_hozac or, $localstatedir/lock. 1170039285 M * Bertl hey great! that one was bugging me for some while now 1170039377 M * daniel_hozac hehe 1170039492 Q * Snow-Man Quit: leaving 1170039501 J * Snow-Man ~sfrost@tamriel.snowman.net 1170039545 M * daniel_hozac well, i'm gonna get some sleep now... good night! 1170039569 Q * Snow-Man 1170039646 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: have a good one! 1170040401 Q * ZLinux Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1170050189 J * lylix ~eric@dynamic-acs-24-154-34-43.zoominternet.net 1170052021 J * comfrey_ ~comfrey@70.91.185.84 1170054080 M * Bertl okay, off to bed now ... have a good one everyone! cya! 1170054085 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1170054978 J * crazy_penguin ~Unknown@86.105.69.248 1170055019 M * crazy_penguin good morning (hopefully) 1170055613 Q * dlezcano Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1170055982 J * duckx ~Duck@tox.dyndns.org 1170056162 J * dlezcano ~dlezcano@AToulouse-252-1-97-215.w86-201.abo.wanadoo.fr 1170056713 J * Admin_Hsilamot ~NICK@189.166.63.68 1170056718 M * Admin_Hsilamot Hello 1170056723 N * Admin_Hsilamot Hsilamot 1170056728 M * Hsilamot Hello 1170056732 M * Hsilamot is anybody here? 1170056766 M * Hsilamot i love irc, 107 persons and 107 away 1170056818 M * Hsilamot please i need some help 1170056928 M * Hsilamot ./sc_serv 1170056990 M * Hsilamot well, i thinki should join you, i'm going to bed 1170058112 J * renihs ~penguin@83-65-34-34.arsenal.xdsl-line.inode.at 1170058270 J * gab ~gab@158.36.45.236 1170058311 J * dna ~naucki@204-222-dsl.kielnet.net 1170059023 Q * dna Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1170059297 J * anonc ~anonc@staffnet.internode.com.au 1170059993 Q * dlezcano Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1170060043 Q * DavidS Quit: Leaving. 1170060431 Q * crazy_penguin Quit: Ex-Chat 1170060843 Q * shedi Quit: Leaving 1170061579 J * cdrx ~legoater@blueice3n1.uk.ibm.com 1170061896 Q * Aiken Quit: Leaving 1170062075 J * weasel weasel@asteria.debian.or.at 1170062262 J * dna ~naucki@9-234-dsl.kielnet.net 1170064036 Q * virtuoso Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1170064170 J * dlezcano ~dlezcano@AToulouse-252-1-66-235.w81-250.abo.wanadoo.fr 1170064171 J * virtuoso ~s0t0na@shisha.spb.ru 1170064212 Q * kir Quit: Leaving 1170064229 J * kir ~kir@swsoft-mipt-nat.sw.ru 1170066433 Q * m`m`h Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1170066504 J * Aiken ~james@ppp108-217.lns2.bne4.internode.on.net 1170066714 J * meandtheshell ~markus@85-124-38-40.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at 1170066750 J * m`m`h ~simba@deb30.mgts.by 1170067307 J * ZLinux ~ZLinux@88.213.15.157 1170068140 Q * Aiken Read error: Connection reset by peer 1170068263 J * Aiken ~james@ppp108-217.lns2.bne4.internode.on.net 1170068794 J * shedi ~siggi@v10-222-142.lhi.is 1170069547 M * bXi onvelvet_dev ~ # vserver joomla start 1170069547 M * bXi chbind: vc_net_create(): Invalid argument 1170069552 M * bXi what could be the problem here 1170069576 M * daniel_hozac you haven't set a static context id for your guest, and disabled dynamic ones in the kernel. 1170069616 M * bXi huh 1170069625 M * bXi i told it to use a static context 1170069635 M * daniel_hozac which one? 1170069638 M * bXi vserver-new joomla --context 56652 --hostname joomla stage3 stage3-i686-20060317.tar.bz2 x86 1170069645 M * bXi or is that too high 1170069656 M * daniel_hozac it is. 1170069663 M * daniel_hozac 2-49151 is the available range. 1170069666 M * bXi ah 1170069671 M * bXi i thought it was 2-65535 1170069705 M * daniel_hozac 49152-65535 are reserved for dynamic contexts. 1170069734 M * bXi thanks :) 1170069737 M * bXi its working now 1170070318 Q * dlezcano Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1170072408 Q * ensc Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1170074476 Q * shedi Quit: Leaving 1170074787 J * dlezcano ~dlezcano@blueice1n1.uk.ibm.com 1170074911 Q * pflanze Quit: [x]chat 1170074935 J * DavidS ~david@vpn.uni-ak.ac.at 1170074946 Q * m`m`h Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1170076497 J * dna_ ~naucki@9-234-dsl.kielnet.net 1170076809 J * yarihm ~yarihm@vpn-global-dhcp2-148.ethz.ch 1170076885 Q * dna Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1170077025 Q * tamitall Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1170077095 Q * Aiken Quit: Leaving 1170077133 N * dna_ dna 1170078931 J * _dmax ~semaj@bl9-225-151.dsl.telepac.pt 1170078951 Q * dmax Read error: Connection reset by peer 1170078958 N * _dmax dmax 1170079016 Q * id23 Remote host closed the connection 1170079801 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p54B4DA6A.dip.t-dialin.net 1170079927 Q * gab Remote host closed the connection 1170080956 Q * yarihm Quit: Leaving 1170081165 J * tamitall ~tam@gw.nettam.com 1170081997 J * shedi ~siggi@dsl-149-109-85.hive.is 1170082794 Q * shedi Quit: Leaving 1170083855 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1170083860 M * Bertl morning folks! 1170083879 M * phedny morning, Bertl! 1170084015 Q * DavidS Quit: Leaving. 1170084036 M * nox hi Bertl! 1170084053 M * Bertl hey phedny! nox! how's going? 1170084064 M * phedny going great :) 1170084065 M * nox todo bien gracias ^^ 1170084100 J * me ~me@p548A981D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1170084121 M * me hi 1170084154 M * Bertl welcome me! 1170084224 M * renihs welcom Bertl ! 1170084239 M * renihs heh :;) (not because of the me) 1170084244 M * renihs oh, there is a me 1170084260 M * me :D 1170084311 M * me I've got a question. I'm trying to write a logdaemon for the caused inet traffic for each vserver, is there any way to reset the bytes in /proc/virtual/2/cacct without restarting the vserver? 1170084349 M * me then I can create a crojob, which will set the traffic for each vserver to 0/0 1170084560 J * shedi ~siggi@ftth-237-144.hive.is 1170084640 M * Bertl me: hmm, not at the moment, but why not account differences? 1170084663 M * Bertl I mean, you should handle a counter wrap anyways 1170084669 M * me Bertl, sorry I didn't understand you, what did you mean with account differences? 1170084703 J * comfrey__ ~comfrey@70.91.185.84 1170084711 M * Bertl the counter there is limited in data size, i.e. at some point it will wrap over zero 1170084730 M * Bertl now, if you do the following in your daemon: 1170084734 J * comfrey_1 ~comfrey@70.91.185.84 1170084752 M * Bertl delta = now - last; last = now 1170084768 M * Bertl if (delta < 0) delta += wrap 1170084790 M * Bertl then you can do the following for your internal accounting 1170084798 M * Bertl value += delta 1170084810 M * Bertl and if you want to 'reset' them, just do value = 0 1170084811 Q * comfrey Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1170084840 Q * comfrey_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1170085254 M * matti Morning Bertl :) 1170085262 M * Bertl hey matti! 1170085274 M * matti How are you? 1170085318 M * Bertl modulo that I just got up, fine, thanks, and you? 1170085335 M * matti Not bad, not bad. 1170085361 M * matti :) 1170085365 M * matti Want some tea? 1170085508 M * Bertl thanks, but no thanks ... have to get some caffeine first :) 1170085760 M * matti ;] 1170085781 Q * cdrx Read error: Connection reset by peer 1170086050 M * me Bertl, if I understood it, I have to reset counters by settings a rule with that I set it to zero. continues the counter after resetting it normaly? 1170086094 M * Hollow daniel_hozac: vcd now unifies a template directory on create :) 1170086142 M * Bertl me: the idea is not to touch the guest counters at all, the magic happens in your daemon 1170086148 M * daniel_hozac i.e. sets IUNLINK|IMMUTABLE on the files? 1170086171 M * Hollow daniel_hozac: yep 1170086177 M * Bertl me: the only value you get from the kernel counters is 'now' 1170086183 M * me Bertl, yes, but there are some problems with the uptime 1170086183 M * daniel_hozac okay, cool. 1170086203 M * Bertl me: how is the uptime related to that? 1170086213 M * daniel_hozac does vstatd already do this? 1170086216 M * Hollow it feels like 3 times afaster than unpacking a tarball (not compressed) 1170086218 M * Hollow :) 1170086219 M * daniel_hozac i.e. track the cacct? 1170086244 M * daniel_hozac hehe, it should be. 1170086248 M * Bertl Hollow: that's why we prefer it to templates? 1170086269 M * Bertl (tar templates that is :) 1170086286 M * me hmp, very difficult to explain in english :) 1170086289 M * Hollow yeah.. it's much better now.. 1170086299 M * Bertl me: try :) 1170086301 M * Hollow unpacking tarballs in the daemon is Not Good 1170086377 M * me it would be very easy for me, if there's any way, that I can reset monthly the stats, hm hm 1170086397 M * Bertl you can! 1170086432 M * Bertl you do not even do anything with the kernel in the procedure I described 1170086490 M * me hm then I think, I missunderstood you 1170086500 M * Bertl okay, let me try once again then ... 1170086531 M * Bertl let's assume, you can read a value called 'now' from the kernel, which contains _a_ 'current' value 1170086535 M * lylix Hollow: is the latest vstatd svn utilizing syscalls now? im guessing this depends on the state of libvserver? 1170086571 M * Bertl me: let's further assume that value will increment over time, and at some point wrap down to zero (overflow) 1170086582 M * me Bertl, you mean with that the output of the /proc/*/cacct proc? 1170086594 M * Bertl (that is what you have now with the /proc/*/cacct values) 1170086611 M * Hollow lylix: not sure, i think it currently does not compile.. will fix that later today probably 1170086636 M * Bertl now, let's further assume that your daemon retrieves this value every now and then (periodically) 1170086647 M * Bertl me: okay so far? 1170086647 M * me like at iptables, which cant display more than 3.~2 gb on a 32bit system? 1170086661 M * Bertl yes, exactly, the same is true for those values 1170086722 M * me hmm then I have to go the hard way 1170086735 M * me I've got a plan for it, but it's much work 1170086736 M * Bertl now, let's further assume you have a variable in your daemon called 'value' which should contain the 'current' value regardless of the wraps and/or resets 1170086768 M * Bertl it's trivial what you do now in the daemon: 1170086782 M * Bertl - retrieve the 'now' value from the kernel 1170086794 M * Bertl - substract the 'last' value (initially 0) 1170086815 M * Bertl - if the result is negative (counter wrapped) add the max size of the counter 1170086831 M * Bertl - save the 'now' value as 'last' 1170086849 M * Hollow hm, i can't access any of the unified files in a context though .. 1170086856 M * Bertl - add the 'delta' (now-last+wrap) to 'value' 1170086867 M * Bertl that's it for the normal accounting 1170086883 M * me that was my idea too 1170086884 M * Bertl me: every time you want to reset the 'value' you just do value = 0 1170086894 M * me and there aren't any prewritten scripts for it? 1170086902 M * Bertl sure, tons of 1170086915 M * Bertl rrd for example does that out of the box 1170086924 M * Bertl besides creating nice graphs too 1170086942 M * Bertl rrdcollect is one of the polling tools 1170086960 M * matti You can use R also. 1170086960 M * matti :> 1170086961 M * me about cacct? I searched for such tools but I only found tools, which depends on iptables 1170087005 M * Bertl no, rrdcollect does not depend on specific input, you simply tell it where to get the data and it collects it into some rrd database 1170087036 M * matti And how often ;) 1170087073 M * daniel_hozac Hollow: hmm? tagxid? 1170087084 M * Hollow no tags at all 1170087096 J * crazy_penguin ~Unknown@86.105.69.248 1170087105 M * daniel_hozac so just to be clear, it's reading them that fails? 1170087113 M * daniel_hozac are the permissions ok? 1170087119 M * daniel_hozac (and barrier) 1170087135 M * crazy_penguin good afternoon 1170087136 M * Hollow http://paste.linux-vserver.org/978 1170087163 M * Bertl http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/delta-nsproxy-fix03.diff 1170087173 M * daniel_hozac Hollow: that looks right. 1170087174 M * Bertl (could benefit from some testing!!) 1170087326 M * Hollow dmesg says: vxW: xid=43 did hit the barrier. 1170087363 M * daniel_hozac Hollow: right 1170087392 M * daniel_hozac and it did. 1170087396 M * Hollow ok, ls /vservers was a bad example.. it happens on everything beneath /vservers too 1170087428 M * Bertl because you are crossing the barrier? 1170087448 M * daniel_hozac you need to be inside /vservers/ and do a relative ls. 1170087493 M * Bertl alternatively you probably could --bind mount it somewhere else 1170087520 M * Hollow ah, ok.. that works .. 1170088512 J * marcfiu ~mef@aegis.CS.Princeton.EDU 1170088923 J * stefani ~stefani@tsipoor.banerian.org 1170089059 J * bronson ~bronson@adsl-75-36-145-166.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net 1170089256 M * Bertl okay, off for now ... back later ... cya! 1170089261 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1170090324 J * cdrx ~legoater@cap31-3-82-227-199-249.fbx.proxad.net 1170090597 J * bonbons ~bonbons@83.222.37.103 1170090755 J * m`m`h ~simba@deb30.mgts.by 1170091643 Q * dlezcano Read error: Connection reset by peer 1170092836 Q * matti Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1170095708 M * me at the cacct file, there is this entry: INET: 15/4785 14/1683 0/0 1170095726 M * me whats the different between the first and second entry? 1170095737 M * me 15/4785 <-> 14/1683 1170095945 M * daniel_hozac input, output and errors. 1170095957 M * daniel_hozac it says so at the top ;) 1170096064 M * PowerKe daniel_hozac: thanks for adding the option to vhashify 1170096162 M * PowerKe Only drawback is that portage won't unmerge files if the mtime has changed. 1170096382 M * me daniel_hozac, also is in this example in = 4785 bits and out 1683 bits 1170096391 M * me but why the 15 and 14? 1170096398 M * daniel_hozac number of packets. 1170096418 M * daniel_hozac or well, number of recv/sends 1170096447 M * me oh.. logicaly :) thank you 1170097401 J * matti matti@acrux.romke.net 1170097722 Q * dna Quit: Verlassend 1170102483 Q * mnemoc Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1170102527 J * mnemoc ~amery@kilo105.server4you.de 1170103162 Q * tamitall Quit: leaving 1170103382 J * dreamind ~dreamind@C2107.campino.wh.tu-darmstadt.de 1170103390 Q * dreamind 1170103508 J * Aiken ~james@ppp108-217.lns2.bne4.internode.on.net 1170104048 J * DavidS ~david@217.19.46.18 1170104322 M * Hsilamot Hello 1170104325 M * Hsilamot anyboty here? 1170104331 M * cryptronic hi all 1170104342 M * Hsilamot hi cryp~1 1170104356 M * Hsilamot somebody can help me a little? 1170104374 M * me I think I should change my nick to the-me ;) 1170104385 M * Hsilamot good luck on it 1170104399 M * Hsilamot somebody can help me a little? i'm having problems updating the kernel in fedora 4 1170104410 M * daniel_hozac Fedora 4 is EOL. 1170104416 M * Hsilamot define EOL 1170104428 M * daniel_hozac it's not going to get any more updates. 1170104452 M * Hsilamot ok, but i need to install the kernel anyway, my problem is the yum says nothing to do 1170104474 M * Hsilamot it is possible to upgrade fedora core 4 to 5/6 without formatting? 1170104483 M * daniel_hozac sure, anaconda has an upgrade option. 1170104505 M * Hsilamot well, my server is remote, so i have only SSH and don't know how to use anaconda 1170104510 M * daniel_hozac it's possible to use yum as well, but it's not recommended and you need to be aware of the kinks. 1170104521 M * Hsilamot and i provide some hostings and i whould like to be sure the server is not going to get screwed 1170104530 M * daniel_hozac (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/YumUpgradeFaq) 1170104541 M * daniel_hozac you _really_ should upgrade from FC4 then. 1170104546 M * Hsilamot i prefer anaconda, sounds more reliable to me 1170104567 M * daniel_hozac anaconda requires you to boot from the CD, etc. 1170104570 M * Hsilamot have any tutorial or something to upgrade from SSH? 1170104576 M * Hsilamot damn 1170104619 M * Hsilamot i can install vserver without screwing the normal server ? 1170104624 M * daniel_hozac hmm? 1170104651 M * Hsilamot i refer, i'm running apache now in $SERVER 1170104674 M * Hsilamot if i install vserver in $SERVER i will have $VSERVER1 $VSERVER2 and $SERVER? or just $VSERVER1 $VSERVER2? 1170104750 M * daniel_hozac it's recommended to run services in guests, but you can run them in the host as well if you configure the properly. 1170104782 M * Hsilamot ok, my plan is to make a VSERVER and get there the current hostings and my webpage as well 1170104790 M * Hsilamot and then making more VSERVERS 1170104826 J * Piet hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org 1170104865 J * dlezcano ~dlezcano@AToulouse-252-1-27-60.w83-193.abo.wanadoo.fr 1170104897 M * notasnark I started with a plain server, and after I got vservers installed, have slowly moved services from the main server to the vserver guests as time permitted. 1170104916 M * Hsilamot ? 1170104982 M * cryptronic daniel_hozac, what was the relevant params for strace to get the best output 1170104997 M * daniel_hozac -fF are always good. 1170105022 M * cryptronic ah thanks that was im searching for 1170105023 M * daniel_hozac -o file will save the output to file instead. 1170105047 M * Hsilamot do you know why the yum just don't work installing the kernel? 1170105068 M * daniel_hozac Hsilamot: most likely because the latest vserver kernel i rolled for FC4 is older than the latest Fedora kernel. 1170105085 M * Hsilamot well, i'm trying to update the server with yum but does not work 1170105093 M * Hsilamot Excluding Packages in global exclude list 1170105093 M * Hsilamot Finished 1170105093 M * Hsilamot No Packages marked for Update/Obsoletion 1170105126 M * Hsilamot root@azx [/etc/yum.repos.d]# yum update yum 1170105141 M * daniel_hozac what does rpm -q kernel say? 1170105152 M * Hsilamot root@azx [/etc/yum.repos.d]# rpm -q kernel 1170105152 M * Hsilamot kernel-2.6.17-1.2147_FC4.vs2.0.2.2 1170105152 M * Hsilamot root@azx [/etc/yum.repos.d]# 1170105159 M * daniel_hozac so, you already have the most recent release. 1170105166 M * Hsilamot curious 1170105170 M * daniel_hozac that's the last kernel i built for FC4. 1170105179 M * Hsilamot the unamesays other thing 1170105180 M * Hsilamot root@azx [/etc/yum.repos.d]# uname -a 1170105180 M * Hsilamot Linux azx.tomalish.net 2.6.14-1.1653_FC4 #1 Tue Dec 13 21:32:13 EST 2005 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux 1170105180 M * Hsilamot root@azx [/etc/yum.repos.d]# 1170105194 M * daniel_hozac you probably haven't rebooted since installing it. 1170105202 M * Hsilamot ok, hope the server works 1170105220 M * Hsilamot root@azx [/etc/yum.repos.d]# shutdown -r now 1170105221 M * Hsilamot Broadcast message from root (pts/0) (Mon Jan 29 15:13:29 2007): 1170105221 M * Hsilamot The system is going down for reboot NOW! 1170105305 M * Hsilamot now i'm scared ^^ 1170105313 M * Hsilamot the server normally reboots in less than one minute 1170105348 M * daniel_hozac no serial console from a nearby server? 1170105370 M * Hsilamot sorry for my low intelectual level "what's a serial console?" 1170105385 M * Hsilamot Got Pings, that's good 1170105397 M * daniel_hozac console over a serial port. 1170105422 M * Hsilamot oh that's better root@azx [/]# uname -a 1170105422 M * Hsilamot Linux azx.tomalish.net 2.6.17-1.2147_FC4.vs2.0.2.2 #1 Thu Sep 14 22:30:50 EDT 2006 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux 1170105422 M * Hsilamot root@azx [/]# 1170105431 M * daniel_hozac there you go. 1170105438 M * Hsilamot no, that should be a good thing, i will invest a little about serial consoles 1170105450 M * Hsilamot i don't know what i made but i made well 1170105451 M * Hsilamot xD 1170105472 M * Hsilamot last night i rebooted several times and it doesn't worked 1170105505 Q * me Remote host closed the connection 1170105723 M * Hsilamot are you still there? 1170105730 M * daniel_hozac yes. 1170105777 M * Hsilamot yo're the one who made this thing? 1170105787 M * daniel_hozac the Fedora patched kernels? yeah. 1170105805 M * Hsilamot ha, just the patchs, not the Virtual servers 1170105812 M * Hsilamot well, the virtual server 1170105816 M * Hsilamot check out this: 1170105817 M * Hsilamot root@azx [/etc/yum.repos.d]# sudo yum install util-vserver 1170105821 M * Hsilamot Parsing package install arguments 1170105821 M * Hsilamot Nothing to do 1170105835 M * daniel_hozac so, rpm -q util-vserver doesn't show anything? 1170105849 M * Hsilamot yes, util-vserver-0.30.211-1.fc4 1170105854 M * Hsilamot i suppose it is already installed 1170105858 M * daniel_hozac yep. 1170105863 M * daniel_hozac an old version though. 1170105864 M * Hsilamot new thing learned today ^^ 1170105877 M * Hsilamot root@azx [/etc/yum.repos.d]# sudo yum install util-vserver-build 1170105900 M * Hsilamot i don't get it 1170105906 M * Hsilamot now it worked ¬¬ 1170105930 M * Hsilamot a second ago it sayed Error: Missing Dependency: util-vserver = 0.30.210-2.fc3 is needed by package util-vserver-build 1170105954 M * Hsilamot that's weird 1170105976 M * Hsilamot you see in the Yum file 1170105985 M * Hsilamot i have to force the fedora 4 1170106003 M * daniel_hozac that makes it sound like you actually have FC3... 1170106016 Q * FireEgl Quit: ... 1170106020 M * Hsilamot i have to force from /fedora/$releasever/ to /fedora/4/ 1170106039 M * Hsilamot well, since the datacenter i rent the server installed the OS the kernel always sayed FC4 1170106060 M * daniel_hozac what does rpm -q fedora-release say? 1170106074 M * Hsilamot root@azx [/etc/yum.repos.d]# rpm -q fedora-release 1170106074 M * Hsilamot fedora-release-3-8 1170106074 M * Hsilamot root@azx [/etc/yum.repos.d]# 1170106078 M * Hsilamot :( 1170106090 M * Hsilamot i don't like fedora 3, i liked 4 1170106096 M * Hsilamot what should i do? 1170106097 M * daniel_hozac so you have some weird mix of FC3 and 4. 1170106104 M * Hsilamot XDDDDDD 1170106108 M * daniel_hozac you really should upgrade to 5 or 6. 1170106109 M * Hsilamot i see 1170106161 M * Hsilamot should i use yum? 1170106188 M * daniel_hozac if you don't have access to the machine during boot, i don't see any other way. 1170106241 M * Hsilamot FC3 -> FC4 1170106249 M * Hsilamot i thing this first then to 5 and then to 6? 1170106279 M * daniel_hozac i guess that's the safest method. 1170106289 M * daniel_hozac (and the only one the FAQ deals with, AFAIK) 1170106400 M * Hsilamot got a conflict 1170106410 M * Hsilamot what's my system i386 or i686? 1170106421 M * Hsilamot i thing both work but don't know what to choose 1170106512 M * Hsilamot great 1170106517 M * Hsilamot root@azx [/opt]# rpm -Uvh --force fedora-release-4-2.noarch.rpm 1170106518 M * Hsilamot error: Failed dependencies: 1170106518 M * Hsilamot fedora-release = 3 is needed by (installed) legacy-yumconf-3-4.fc3.noarch 1170106518 M * Hsilamot root@azx [/opt]# 1170106653 M * Hollow Bertl_oO, daniel_hozac: http://paste.linux-vserver.org/986 1170106699 Q * DavidS Quit: Leaving. 1170106703 M * daniel_hozac Hsilamot: rpm -e legacy-yumconf; rpm -Uvh fedora-release-4-2.noarch.rpm 1170106715 Q * haxier Remote host closed the connection 1170106720 M * daniel_hozac Hollow: with nsproxy-fix03? 1170106724 M * Hsilamot let's see 1170106747 M * Hollow daniel_hozac: hm.. probably not .. 1170106751 M * Hollow will add it 1170106764 M * daniel_hozac what is on line 196 in your kernel? 1170106784 M * Hollow BUG_ON(atmoic_read(vx->vx_tasks)); 1170106792 M * Hollow *atomic 1170106799 M * daniel_hozac well, that's strange... 1170106805 M * Hsilamot why did you help people like us, do you like to develop? 1170106809 M * Hsilamot root@azx [/opt]# rpm -Uvh fedora-release-4-2.noarch.rpm 1170106810 M * Hsilamot Preparing... ########################################### [100%] 1170106810 M * Hsilamot 1:fedora-release warning: /etc/issue saved as /etc/issue.rpmsave 1170106810 M * Hsilamot warning: /etc/issue.net saved as /etc/issue.net.rpmsave 1170106810 M * Hsilamot ########################################### [100%] 1170106811 M * Hsilamot root@azx [/opt]# 1170106837 M * daniel_hozac Hollow: i guess your helper fails? 1170106849 M * daniel_hozac Hsilamot: now try yum upgrade. 1170106859 M * Hsilamot i'm 1170106865 M * Hsilamot upgrade or update? 1170106879 M * sid3windr does 2.3 already contain ipv6 or not yet? 1170106900 M * Hollow daniel_hozac: no, the helper returns with 0, but somehow init fails to start (another problem..) but because init fails, the context dies immediately, and this bug appears .. 1170106928 M * daniel_hozac Hsilamot: they should be the same, but you're on such an old distribution i'm not sure... in which case you want upgrade. 1170106934 M * daniel_hozac sid3windr: i don't think it's merged yet. 1170106941 M * daniel_hozac sid3windr: bonbons has a patch for 2.2 though. 1170106952 M * sid3windr yea, I installed that on one server but haven't got around to actually try it out 1170106954 M * Hsilamot i have runned "update" as the wiki sayd, it is doing several downloads, seems to be working 1170106975 M * daniel_hozac Hollow: well, init failing to start shouldn't cause vc_ctx_create to fail, shoul dit? 1170106996 M * Hsilamot do you have any IM daniel? or just this irc channel? 1170107005 M * daniel_hozac sid3windr: given the interest, i think it should be rather well tested by now.... 1170107014 M * Hollow ctx_create does not fail.. this happens on state change to "shutdown" 1170107017 M * daniel_hozac Hsilamot: IRC is all i need. 1170107022 M * Hsilamot LOL 1170107025 M * Hollow uhm 1170107026 J * yarihm ~yarihm@84-75-123-221.dclient.hispeed.ch 1170107028 M * daniel_hozac Hollow: hmm, so the call trace is wrong? 1170107029 M * Hollow you're right 1170107034 M * Hollow just saw it 1170107041 M * sid3windr I was very interested -- only, I'm still waiting for an ipv6 block from my transit; I found another one now but I need a new dual GE NIC for it :p 1170107065 M * Hsilamot all programs in linux are in the same language (source code-before compiling) 1170107089 M * daniel_hozac Hsilamot: most definitely not. 1170107101 M * Hsilamot that's the confusing part of linux for me 1170107121 M * Hsilamot i don't know how to modify Source Codes or make programs for linux, as i don't know the languaje 1170107127 M * Hsilamot is language or languaje? 1170107151 M * daniel_hozac there are numerous languages, with different levels of complexity... 1170107163 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1170107187 M * Hsilamot the kernel of fedora core in what languaje is? 1170107201 M * daniel_hozac the kernel is mostly C with assembly stubs. 1170107245 M * Hsilamot and when i "make" the source the final binary is in standard machine languaje or that varies also? 1170107249 Q * Piet Remote host closed the connection 1170107270 M * Hsilamot i'm a Mexican person so my english is not very good ^^ 1170107281 J * Piet hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org 1170107324 M * daniel_hozac binaries have to be in machine code for the architecture, yes... 1170107364 M * Hsilamot it's difficult to learn C or learn Making a program? 1170107405 M * Hsilamot i manage to PHP, Visual Basic a little Visual C, and other Script Languajes (such mirc, javascript) but the real programming is a unknown world for me 1170107540 M * daniel_hozac i guess you'd just have to try it. 1170107563 M * Hsilamot you learned on school, personally or web? 1170107568 M * daniel_hozac Hollow: btw, just FYI, i patched the pastebin yesterday to get rid of some of the spam. 1170107602 M * daniel_hozac looks like there's still quite a bit coming through though. 1170107605 M * Hollow we had spam on the pastebin? 1170107617 A * Hollow sighs 1170107619 M * daniel_hozac there's lots of spam on the pastebin. 1170107632 M * daniel_hozac just doesn't make links :) 1170107655 M * Hsilamot why did you not use Captcha in the pastebin? (What's for the pastebin?) 1170107668 M * daniel_hozac captchas are annoying. 1170107690 M * Hsilamot translating annoying.... 1170107701 M * Hsilamot oh i see 1170107714 M * Hsilamot don't think the Spam is more annoying? 1170107741 M * daniel_hozac not really. for the pastebin it doesn't really effect anything but the size of the database. 1170107747 M * Hsilamot or you can use the captcha that uses wikipedia 1170107756 M * Hsilamot i liked it 1170107819 M * Hsilamot you have to resolve a simple aritmetical problem to register or login 1170107842 M * daniel_hozac the pastebin is meant to be a simple shoot-and-forget thing though. 1170107902 M * Hsilamot what is a pastebin, i just see a lot of hexadecimal numbers and something that appears to be a Microsoft Error's report 1170108009 M * daniel_hozac it's a way to show longer things without flooding the channel. 1170108033 M * Hsilamot oh i see, so if i got a huge command line or thing to show i past it there? 1170108059 M * daniel_hozac that's the idea. 1170108069 M * Hsilamot i see why did you not care about spam 1170108081 M * Hsilamot so just have to flush the table time to time 1170108119 M * PowerKe Make an image set a cookie and check for the cookie on the submit form 1170108129 M * PowerKe Ugly hack, but keeps the spambots away 1170108157 M * daniel_hozac Hollow: can you think of any legit reason why someone would paste a URL? 1170108159 M * Hsilamot you can put various security methods 1170108168 M * daniel_hozac or could we block any paste with http:// in it? 1170108173 M * PowerKe GoogleRank 1170108179 M * Hsilamot like checking the referer, or setting other parameters 1170108181 M * PowerKe the more links you have to your site, the higher the rank 1170108182 M * Hollow daniel_hozac: i think we can do that 1170108197 M * daniel_hozac i guess people can complain if that blocks their pastes. 1170108200 M * Hsilamot because someones can paste things with http: like me ^ 1170108220 M * Hsilamot i can paste thing like root@azx [/opt]# rpm -Uhv http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/5/i386/os/Fedora/RPMS/fedora-release-5-5.noarch.rpm 1170108241 M * Hollow daniel_hozac: heh, yeah 1170108314 M * Hsilamot i thing that checking referer, setting a random cookie will do well on the form 1170108339 M * daniel_hozac looks like some of the spam is even lacking links... 1170108366 M * Hsilamot ^^ 1170108601 M * daniel_hozac i went with sighand will still be available when it wants to lock that. 1170114584 M * Bertl but what if the process is not the only one using this nsproxy? 1170114599 M * Bertl in this case the put will not happen at all 1170114602 Q * yarihm Quit: Leaving 1170114607 M * daniel_hozac right. 1170114616 M * Bertl that's okay? 1170114618 M * daniel_hozac but the mount is only disposed of when the mount namespace is 1170114629 M * daniel_hozac that's what's calling lockd_down. 1170114637 M * daniel_hozac (IIUC, anyway) 1170114645 M * Bertl okay, what if we have two processes 1170114652 M * Bertl A and B 1170114674 M * Bertl both are dying at the same time, both are the only users of the nsproxy/mnt 1170114700 M * Bertl the first one gets right to the beginning of exit_notify() 1170114734 M * Bertl while B runs till the second nsproxy drop 1170114784 M * Bertl let me rephrase that ... 1170114788 M * daniel_hozac that should be handled, no? 1170114802 M * Bertl no, I better draw that in ascii ... sec 1170115011 Q * meandtheshell Quit: Leaving. 1170115033 M * Bertl http://paste.linux-vserver.org/989 1170115117 M * Bertl and even more interesting: 1170115119 M * Bertl http://paste.linux-vserver.org/990