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1169253746 J * tamitall ~tam@gw.nettam.com
1169254012 Q * Aiken Quit: Leaving
1169256772 J * agryppa1 ~kb2qzv@cab-dr-cvx1-146.dial.airstreamcomm.net
1169256931 M * agryppa1 gentoo init script shows [!!] when shutting down vservers, anybody knows why? /var/log/messages give no clues.
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1169258742 J * _jacky ~jacky@c173158.adsl.hansenet.de
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1169259415 M * agryppa1 Torvalds said in australia that veirtualization is over-hyped, what do guys you think about it?
1169259579 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1169259634 M * Bertl agryppa1: ah, of course we concur and immediately abort this useless project ... not :)
1169259662 M * agryppa1 I am serious, it bothers me that he said that...
1169259663 M * Bertl thing is, virtualization is indeed a hype thing
1169259674 M * Bertl just think about the Xen hype
1169259705 M * Bertl everybody and his dog has to do virtualization nowadays, whether needed or not
1169259752 M * agryppa1 kvm is to be in the 2.6.20 kernel, though. How does it relate to vserver?
1169259756 M * Bertl OTOH, putting 100 Linux-VServer guests on an average PC hardware is something you do not want to trade for adapting software ...
1169259779 M * Bertl not at all, kvm is for hardware supported virtualization
1169259790 M * Bertl you want that when you want to run different operating systems
1169259818 M * Bertl as we do virtualization at (or better below) the kernel level, there is no gain and no harm in that
1169259840 M * Bertl we are already faster than the RealThing(tm) :)
1169259858 M * agryppa1 :-)
1169259899 M * agryppa1 now tell me why my gentoo init script say [!!] instead of OK when shutting soen vservers?
1169259910 M * agryppa1 shutting down
1169259913 M * Bertl no idea, you have to wait/ask gentoo folks
1169259940 M * agryppa1 cat /var/log/messages say nothing about vservers. When dows it log?
1169259982 M * Bertl you get that message on the host when you shutdown the host or what?
1169260015 M * agryppa1 yes, on the host
1169260058 M * Bertl by default, there are two sysv runlevel scripts, one called vservers-default the other vservers-legacy IIRC
1169260076 M * agryppa1 /etc/init/vserver stop produces it instead of "OK"
1169260078 M * Bertl I know that gentoo doesn't use sysv init, so there is probably a different script doing that
1169260100 M * Bertl try to debug that with bash -x or so
1169260312 M * agryppa1 hm. Could that be the case that I am not using the latest sources? mine is 2.0.2.1
1169260322 M * Bertl yes, could easily be
1169260338 M * Bertl gentoo is very fast in changing stuff, as you probably know
1169260364 M * agryppa1 how do I debug it with bash -x? bash -x and then /etc/init/vserver stop?
1169260398 M * Bertl yes, something like that, or change the hashbang by adding the -x
1169260413 M * Bertl i.e. #/bin/bash -> #/bin/bash -x
1169260492 M * agryppa1 hm, it didn't show any additional info, it failed to shutdown servers in an elegant way.
1169260513 M * Bertl well, it should give you a dump of what actually is executed
1169260551 M * agryppa1 I'll try now with the hashbang because bash -x didn't help
1169260685 M * agryppa1 that hashbang thing is a no go. First the script "vservers" starts with #!/sbin/runscript, second the script /sbin/runscript is a some kind of a binary file.
1169260707 M * agryppa1 so I have no way of adding "-x"
1169260747 M * Bertl ah, okay, gentoo specific then ...
1169260766 M * agryppa1 fine, I'll later
1169260768 M * Bertl explains why you get no output ... as I said, you ahve to ask gentoo folks
1169260782 M * agryppa1 while you are still here...
1169260799 M * Bertl yup?
1169260805 M * agryppa1 what is thie libvserver package for? I do not have it on my host.
1169260898 M * agryppa1 is it a dependency for higher versions of vserver?
1169260921 M * Bertl there are several userspace approaches for the Linux-VServer kernel interface
1169260997 M * Bertl one was originally started by Jacques Gelinas and called 'vserver', this was reworked and cleaned up later by Enrico Scholz and renamed to util-vserver, which is nowadays co-maintained by Daniel Hokka Zakrisson ...
1169261046 M * Bertl parallel to that, Benedikt Boehm started a package called vserver-utils, based on a low level library, which is now evolved to vcd and friends 
1169261153 M * Bertl the libraries in both util-vserver and vserver-utils provide a simple way to build your own tools to do fancy stuff
1169261322 M * agryppa1 I infer it is needed by vserver-utils, right?
1169261369 M * Bertl I presume so, but it might be a stand alone package too
1169261439 M * agryppa1 Do you have any idea what userbase Linux-Vserver has so far?
1169261476 M * Bertl as there is no registration or so involved we can just do guestimations on that
1169261520 M * Bertl the hosting provider page (which is typically not known to the hosting providers when they come here :) contains quite a number of entries
1169261539 M * Bertl you can probably multiply that by 10 or more to get the real numbers for the providers
1169261564 M * Bertl aside from that, many individuals and non profit organizations use it for various stuff too
1169261616 M * agryppa1 OK, thanks.
1169261634 M * Bertl you're welcome!
1169261833 J * Aiken ~james@tooax6-143.dialup.optusnet.com.au
1169261877 M * Bertl welcome Aiken!
1169261882 M * Aiken hi
1169263247 M * agryppa1 Bertl, there was a thread on the mailing list about "vserver stop". It had something to do with time out settings
1169263285 M * Bertl that is only relevant if your guest 'refuses' to stop
1169263302 M * Bertl on a properly setup system the guest will stop without hitting the timeout
1169263332 M * agryppa1 hm, I wonder where to go from here...
1169263356 M * Bertl as I said, first, talk to some gentoo folks how to debug the init script
1169263362 M * agryppa1 I shouldn't fiddle with that time out, huh?
1169263373 M * Bertl there is probably some simple way to enable some kind of debugging there
1169263383 M * agryppa1 I'll do that.
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1169264485 Q * doener Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1169264944 J * MrX ~chaos@179.13.95.219.kmr01-home.tm.net.my
1169264952 M * Bertl welcome MrX!
1169265481 Q * Vudumen Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1169266001 J * doener ~doener@host.magicwars.de
1169266079 J * Vudumen ~vudumen@perverz.hu
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1169270346 M * agryppa1 Hi, I am getting this message from the vserver initscript when stopping it: /etc/init.d/vservers: line 53: vs_running_name: command not found
1169270365 M * agryppa1 how to fix it?
1169270390 M * Bertl what distro, what tool version, how did you install?
1169270551 M * agryppa1 gentoo, util-vserver-0.30.212, I installed the package via the portage system
1169270598 M * agryppa1 and this line comes first: /etc/init.d/vservers: line 16: source: filename argument required
1169270608 M * Bertl seems to be gentoo specific again, I have no vs_running_name in the tar package for 0.30.212
1169270650 M * Bertl but Hollow should be around in a few hours ...
1169270665 M * agryppa1 This time at last there is some debug info :-)
1169270696 M * Bertl yes, indeed, how did you enable it, btw?
1169270717 M * agryppa1 I only upgraded the package from *.211 to *.212
1169270733 M * Bertl interesting ...
1169270776 M * agryppa1 line 16 in the script says: source ${_LIB_GENTOO_FUNCTIONS}
1169270803 M * Bertl which might be related to the vs_running_name?
1169271154 J * kb2qzv_ ~kb2qzv@cab-dr-cvx1-24.dial.airstreamcomm.net
1169271168 M * Bertl welcome kb2qzv_!
1169271189 M * kb2qzv_ yeah, I got disconnected
1169271197 M * kb2qzv_ and My nick changed
1169271205 M * Bertl happens
1169271227 M * kb2qzv_ did you say anything in the meantime?
1169271274 M * Bertl probably not, you can check the realtime logs here: http://irc.13thfloor.at/LOG/
1169271299 M * kb2qzv_ tnx
1169271315 Q * agryppa1 Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1169271363 M * kb2qzv_ but you missed this:  for i in $(vs_running_name 1); do
1169271377 M * kb2qzv_ it is int he stop() function
1169271410 M * Bertl it's not in the tar I have here ...
1169271438 M * Bertl (so I assume it was added by gentoo)
1169271970 M * Bertl I'd suggest to grep for the vs_running_name and fix up the path for the ${_LIB_GENTOO_FUNCTIONS}
1169272274 M * kb2qzv_ Well, vs_running_name occurs twice in that script. where else should I grep for it?
1169272296 M * Bertl on your filesystem, you are looking for the missing _LIB_GENTOO_FUNCTIONS
1169272388 M * kb2qzv_ hoiw do I do that grep? grep -H vs_running_name /* Like this?
1169272432 M * Bertl probably grep vs_running_name -r /usr  should do the trick
1169272459 M * Bertl I'd expect it in usr/share or something like that
1169273021 M * kb2qzv_ grep found nothing so far, it looks like some kind of unending loop or what?
1169273041 M * Bertl hmm, no, actually it should walk your /usr filesystem
1169273066 M * Bertl unless you have strange links there pointing back to higher level dirs, it should be fine
1169273077 M * Bertl you might exclude links though
1169273112 M * doener grep recognizes loops
1169273165 M * Bertl morning doener!
1169273204 M * doener heh :) I've just been thinking about what to say, it's more like afternoon in my personal tz
1169273224 M * Bertl hehe, yeah, probably heading to bed soon here :)
1169273224 M * kb2qzv_ google search returns three links to vs_running_name, the third is the complete script
1169273356 M * Bertl the interesting part is to figure where it is on your host, and why it cannot be found, although it is referenced
1169273442 M * kb2qzv_ yeah. I'll probably turn in now 'cause it is midnight.
1169273484 M * Bertl okay
1169273571 M * kb2qzv_ good night everyone
1169273580 M * doener godd night kb2qzv_ 
1169273581 M * Bertl have a good one too!
1169273586 Q * kb2qzv_ Quit: Leaving
1169273611 M * doener and I'm off to make my harddrives suffer... tracking down some stupid sata_nv bug ;)
1169273630 M * Bertl hehe, sounds like (not so much) fun! :)
1169273826 M * doener decided that thrashing them in X is also fine
1169273846 M * Bertl lol
1169273848 M * doener bisection took about 8(?) hours, so that was not that bad
1169273865 M * doener although I marked a few kernels good too early
1169273906 M * Bertl btw, which kernels are you hacking on?
1169273913 M * doener and my testcase is just a parallel loop of ls -lR / > /dev/null and echo 255 > drop_caches
1169273970 M * doener 2.6.20-rc5 atm, I first noticed the bug with 2.6.20-rc2 (jumped there from .19-rcX), was probably introduced in rc1
1169274015 M * Bertl i.c. nice, good that I didn't upgrade the nv board yet :)
1169274057 M * doener Robert Hancock sent a debug patch today that might as well fix the problem (different mmio reg used for write posting)
1169274076 M * doener and according to some, disabling adma can also fix it (didn't test that yet)
1169274208 M * doener *yawn* 20 seconds to start mutt without any mailbox openend... I need a better testcase ;)
1169276033 M * Bertl hey _jacky! :)
1169276454 M * _jacky hihu
1169276469 M * _jacky dont u need to sleep?^^
1169276484 M * Bertl yes, I do, and I will head to bed quite soon ...
1169276493 M * _jacky na, deutscher?
1169276521 M * Bertl sorry, you must confuse me with somebody else, I'm from Austria :)
1169276564 M * _jacky ha, ok how greet the people eachother in Austria?
1169276566 M * _jacky ^^
1169276593 M * Bertl depends on the situation ...
1169276613 M * _jacky normal, like guten Tag or Hallo
1169276616 M * Bertl but 'servas' would be a good default
1169276636 M * _jacky hehe, we say moin
1169276648 M * Bertl isn't that a wiki name?
1169276655 M * _jacky why, moin?
1169276662 M * Bertl moinmoin :)
1169276670 M * _jacky heh right, and moinzen
1169276750 M * _jacky why not write somebody also a wiki name for servas?
1169276845 M * _jacky what do u work bertl?
1169276860 M * _jacky like IT or some simiular?
1169276871 M * Bertl you mean besides working on Linux-VServer?
1169276896 M * _jacky y, for money XD
1169276901 M * Bertl mostly Consulting for Unix/Linux
1169276931 M * _jacky aha, ok, u r the real expert here, the real GOD ^^
1169276940 M * _jacky like harry said
1169276955 M * Bertl hehe, well, I probably know the one or other thing ...
1169276994 M * _jacky thats super what we have u here, otherweise,...confuse
1169277017 N * _jacky jacky
1169277490 M * jacky hi Bertl, still there?
1169277520 M * jacky i get during apt-get install locales these
1169277539 M * jacky Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
1169277565 M * jacky and the same with LC_MESSAGES, LC_ALL
1169277572 M * jacky some idea?
1169277603 M * jacky stupid question, u sure have idea, u r the GOD^^
1169277701 M * daniel_hozac do you get it after installing the locales?
1169277708 M * jacky y
1169277725 M * jacky and when i run "locale", get the same 
1169277741 M * daniel_hozac did you tell it to generate whatever locale you have set?
1169277744 M * doener try to "dpkg-reconfigure locales"
1169277779 M * jacky have done with en_us.iso-8859
1169277790 M * jacky but it changes nothing, confuse
1169277795 M * daniel_hozac and that's what LANG is set to?
1169277808 M * jacky en_us.utf-8
1169277821 M * jacky should i set it also to locale?
1169277903 M * Bertl probably that specific local is not installed/available?
1169277905 M * jacky done with utf-8, but stil the same, cannt set lc_ctype, lc_messages,lc_all
1169277917 M * jacky y
1169277921 M * daniel_hozac and those aren't set to anything other than LANG=
1169277923 M * jacky no such file or directory
1169277923 M * daniel_hozac s/=/?/
1169277939 M * Bertl btw, it seems to be something like:
1169277947 M * daniel_hozac i.e. echo $LC_CTYPE $LC_MESSAGES $LC_ALL returns nothing?
1169277949 M * Bertl en_US.ISO-8859-1 (at least here)
1169277957 M * daniel_hozac indeed.
1169277981 M * Bertl but I'd suggest to set it to POSIX and C for a test
1169277994 M * jacky echo returns nothing
1169278015 M * Bertl try 'locale' and upload the output to paste.linux-vserver.org
1169278030 M * jacky k
1169278082 M * jacky done pasted
1169278109 M * jacky have also tried with iso-8859-1, just the same
1169278113 M * Bertl btw, 'locale -a' will show you all available locales
1169278167 M * jacky see the new paste
1169278175 M * jacky new post
1169278177 M * jacky ^^
1169278261 M * Bertl okay, funny, you probably have strange settings in /etc/sysconfig/i18n
1169278278 M * Bertl the only installed locales are the ones listed in the second post
1169278279 M * jacky and new post from dkpg-reconfigure locales
1169278356 M * jacky i/etc/sysconfig/i18n: No such file or directory ??
1169278532 M * daniel_hozac Debian probably keeps it elsewhere.
1169278559 M * jacky get /usr/share/i18n
1169278598 M * jacky i18n/locales?
1169278651 M * jacky there is en_us
1169278693 M * Bertl so change that to one you actually have
1169278702 M * Bertl i.e. en_US (instead of en_us)
1169278719 M * Bertl or #
1169278720 M * Bertl en_US.iso88591  
1169278726 M * Bertl if you prefer that one
1169278741 M * jacky k i try
1169278777 M * Bertl k, I'm off to bed now ... so have a good one everyone! and cya!
1169278782 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
1169278798 M * jacky thx for all, cya
1169279110 M * jacky funny
1169279161 M * jacky i installed de_iso, and now is everythin ok
1169280163 M * jacky why is vroot device relevant
1169280301 M * daniel_hozac it allows for secure quota usage inside guests.
1169280430 M * jacky k
1169280439 M * jacky also when i have suse host?
1169280500 M * daniel_hozac given that the host distribution has no bearing on that whatsoever, yes.
1169280529 M * jacky thx
1169283030 Q * jacky Remote host closed the connection
1169283384 M * daniel_hozac Bertl_zZ: if you could take a quick look at http://linux-vserver.org/ChangeLog-2.2 when you get up, i'd appreciate it.
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1169285302 J * dna ~naucki@p54BCEC41.dip.t-dialin.net
1169286595 J * jacky ~jacky@c173158.adsl.hansenet.de
1169286607 M * jacky hi
1169286766 M * jacky i made vroot with " mknod /dev/vroot1 b 4 1" and try now to couple it with the real partition with
1169286795 M * jacky vrsetup /dev/vroot1 /dev/mapper/home--web-vlamp1
1169286832 M * jacky it returns "open("/dev/vroot1"): No such device or address"
1169286834 M * jacky why?
1169287020 M * jacky is anybody out there?
1169287190 M * daniel_hozac did you enable vroot in your kernel when you built it?
1169287201 M * jacky i think so
1169287207 M * jacky w8 let me check it out
1169287271 M * jacky hmm, there is no option for vroot ..
1169287338 M * jacky i have the vs2.2.0
1169287352 M * jacky maybe its standard in this version?
1169287448 M * jacky grsec2.1.10-vs2.2.0-rc7
1169287487 M * daniel_hozac CONFIG_BLK_DEV_VROOT
1169287496 M * daniel_hozac depends on QUOTACTL
1169287682 M * jacky GET
1169287691 M * jacky the line is comment out
1169287722 M * jacky so i must recompile the kernel?
1169287788 J * Aiken_ ~james@tooax8-038.dialup.optusnet.com.au
1169287982 M * daniel_hozac yes.
1169288003 M * jacky k thx
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1169290190 J * Smutje ~Smutje@xdsl-87-78-98-134.netcologne.de
1169290313 J * bonbons ~bonbons@83.222.37.103
1169290751 J * Beuc ~yo@perso.beuc.net
1169290964 M * Beuc Hi. I was using 2.6.18.5/vs2.0.3rc1, and I switched to 2.6.19.2/vs-2.2.0rc8. I'm using the latest util-vserver (.212). I now get errors like "ncontext: vc_net_create(): Invalid argument; dynamic contexts disabled." on startup. Do you have an idea where that comes from?
1169291112 M * daniel_hozac you disabled dynamic contexts in your kernel.
1169291122 M * daniel_hozac so trying to use them will obviously fail.
1169291156 M * Beuc thanks, I'll have a look at that
1169291181 M * daniel_hozac you should switch to using static ids.
1169291207 M * daniel_hozac by running something like echo <unique number between 2 and 49151> > /etc/vservers/<guest>/context
1169291308 M * Beuc Is there some doc I should read about this?
1169291336 M * daniel_hozac about what?
1169291351 M * daniel_hozac that's really all there is to it...
1169291375 M * Beuc about static vs. dynamic ids. I don't remember playing with this parameter and I'm a bit confused :)
1169291391 M * daniel_hozac all of the legacy stuff is disabled by default in 2.2.
1169291400 M * daniel_hozac dynamic context ids is part of that.
1169291443 M * daniel_hozac (and using them on 2.2 will probably not work out very well, since the utils don't really cope with dynamic nids)
1169291473 M * Beuc Ok, so now when creating a vserver I should assign it a manual id.
1169291486 Q * kugg Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1169291520 M * daniel_hozac yes.
1169291546 M * daniel_hozac though that has been recommended since 1.9 or so, probably.
1169291569 M * Beuc I must have missed that. Were there issues with dynamic ids?
1169291592 M * daniel_hozac would you want a dynamic uid?
1169291614 M * daniel_hozac as soon as you enable tagxid, dynamic ids will break horribly.
1169291622 M * Beuc Just for saving the hassle of defining one ;)
1169291635 M * Beuc I only use basic features, that's prolly why
1169291658 M * Beuc (basically, chroot & process isolation only)
1169291674 M * daniel_hozac and on 2.1+, where the network checks are based on the nid, you can't ever use vserver ... enter or vserver ... exec or things will break.
1169291717 M * daniel_hozac granted, that's mostly a flaw in the utils, but still.
1169291840 M * Beuc Ok. Maybe I should follow the /topic directives and contribute some wiki page about it, unless there's already one (searching..)
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1169293076 J * kugg ~kugg@90-227-91-196-no120.tbcn.telia.com
1169293477 J * DavidS ~david@85.125.165.34
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1169295948 J * meandtheshel1 ~markus@85-124-175-9.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at
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1169297130 J * softi42 ~softi@p549D5043.dip.t-dialin.net
1169297236 J * jmcaricand ~kvirc@d90-144-93-172.cust.tele2.fr
1169297330 M * jmcaricand Hi. I've a very simple question. With the last patch, can I use 127.0.0.1 device in my guest ?
1169297903 Q * jmcaricand Quit: KVIrc 3.2.4 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/
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1169298667 J * jacky ~jacky@c173158.adsl.hansenet.de
1169298761 M * jacky hi there
1169298941 J * raw_ squid@wwwbox.uni-mb.si
1169298964 M * daniel_hozac hello
1169299036 M * jacky i'v been shopping during the kernel compiling ^^
1169299615 Q * kugg Read error: Connection reset by peer
1169299622 J * kugg ~kugg@90-227-91-196-no120.tbcn.telia.com
1169300598 Q * Beuc Quit: Leaving
1169301205 M * daniel_hozac does anyone have a 2.0.1 kernel running still?
1169301312 M * Loki|muh maybe ;)
1169301331 M * Loki|muh yeah
1169301338 M * daniel_hozac older utils, right?
1169301346 M * Loki|muh jep
1169301358 M * Loki|muh and the 2 servers will be shut down soon
1169301366 M * daniel_hozac would it be possible for you to test newer ones?
1169301384 M * daniel_hozac (0.30.212 is broken on 2.0.1)
1169301466 M * Loki|muh I can as soon as they are replaced (I think they will be the next few days)
1169301480 M * daniel_hozac ok.
1169301866 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p54B4EE7E.dip.t-dialin.net
1169302107 M * daniel_hozac http://people.linux-vserver.org/~dhozac/p/uv/experimental/util-vserver-0.30.213-pre3.tar.bz2 should fix it, IMHO.
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1169304601 M * daniel_hozac ugh, i need to learn how to use preview...
1169304693 J * orzel ~orzel@freehackers.org
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1169307244 J * Johnnie ~jdlewis@jdlewis.org
1169307292 Q * Johnnie 
1169307309 J * Johnnie ~jdlewis@jdlewis.org
1169307993 J * jacky ~jacky@c173158.adsl.hansenet.de
1169308006 M * jacky hi there have newbie question
1169308028 M * jacky how can i change the hostname from the guest
1169308317 Q * Johnnie Quit: G'bye!
1169308359 J * Johnnie ~jdlewis@jdlewis.org
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1169308608 J * DavidS ~david@mk090152185067.a1.net
1169308774 M * daniel_hozac jacky: hostname xyz?
1169308805 Q * DavidS 
1169309199 J * Johnnie ~jdlewis@jdlewis.org
1169309213 Q * michal` Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1169309801 J * michal` ~michal@www.rsbac.org
1169311648 M * Hollow daniel_hozac: ping
1169311648 Q * lylix Read error: Connection reset by peer
1169311854 J * kdean06 ~fader6818@216.127.159.46
1169312006 Q * m`m`h Remote host closed the connection
1169312299 M * daniel_hozac Hollow: pong
1169312306 M * daniel_hozac ish
1169312362 M * Hollow daniel_hozac: i think there is a bug in vsomething when pkg management is not enabled ... see http://paste.linux-vserver.org/908
1169312375 M * Hollow it always adds the vservers name as first argument to the command
1169312388 M * daniel_hozac i wouldn't really consider that a bug.
1169312405 M * daniel_hozac how else is the command supposed to know the guest to apply it to?
1169312432 M * daniel_hozac note: the command is not executed in the guest at all.
1169312455 M * Hollow shouldn't it enter the guest and execute the command there? i'm just trying to figure out how to use vsomething from the command line to execute arbitrary commands inside multiple vserver at the same time ..
1169312462 M * Hollow yeah, i just figured that ..
1169312473 M * daniel_hozac to do that, you'd need something like vsomething vserver -- guests... -- exec ...
1169312508 M * Hollow ah, i see
1169313685 Q * dna Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1169313974 M * Hollow daniel_hozac: small enhancement of initpost: http://paste.linux-vserver.org/909
1169314139 M * daniel_hozac looks fine to me.
1169314227 M * Hollow ok, just testing it, and will commit it then
1169314236 M * daniel_hozac okay.
1169314241 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1169314246 M * daniel_hozac morning Bertl!
1169314247 M * Bertl morning folks!
1169314260 J * glut glut@no.suid.pl
1169314269 M * Hollow works liek a charm :) finally no more hostnames to set :P
1169314276 M * daniel_hozac hehe
1169314322 M * Bertl Hollow: did you see the issues agryppa1 did fight with yesterday?
1169314330 M * Hollow no?
1169314345 M * Bertl you might want to read up on the irc logs then
1169314351 M * Bertl basically it was something like:
1169314367 J * the_hydra ~a_mulyadi@125.164.97.176
1169314371 M * the_hydra Bertl: hi
1169314372 M * Bertl - gentoo on host installed, on guest shutdown (init) he got [!!]
1169314385 M * matti Hi Bertl.
1169314387 M * daniel_hozac /etc/init.d/vservers referencing vs_running_name
1169314394 M * matti Hi Hollow.
1169314394 M * Bertl - update to 0.30.212 led to an error message
1169314430 M * Bertl - vs_running_name couldn't be found because ${_LIB_GENTOO_FUNCTIONS} didn't exist
1169314442 M * Hollow he didn't run etc-update then
1169314444 M * Bertl - search on the entire system couldn't find vs_running_name either
1169314459 M * Bertl what is that vs_running_name btw?
1169314475 M * Hollow it was some weird function to find running vservers
1169314480 M * Bertl was?
1169314484 M * phreak`` Bertl: cruft from the old init-script
1169314493 J * dna ~naucki@p54BCD95C.dip.t-dialin.net
1169314494 M * Hollow yeah, in 0.30.212 we use vsyswrapper
1169314497 M * Hollow or vwrapper
1169314502 M * Hollow i can't remember these names ;)
1169314507 M * Bertl aha, but he did emerge that, IIRC
1169314507 M * daniel_hozac s/vsyswrapper/vserver-wrapper/
1169314511 M * Hollow ah yeah
1169314534 M * Bertl so some post emerge script which wasn't executed?
1169314559 M * phreak`` Bertl: but apparently he didn't remove the old init-script. by default /etc is under config-protect, which means stuff in /etc isn't touched explicitly
1169314601 M * Hollow the old tools/functions.sh can be found at http://dev.croup.de/proj/gentoo-vps/browser/util-vserver/tools?rev=522
1169314629 M * Bertl phreak``: ah, okay, I understand, unfortunate update then
1169314643 M * Bertl hey matti!
1169314660 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: http://people.linux-vserver.org/~dhozac/p/k/delta-getsched-feat02.diff is missing from 2.2.0-rc8.
1169314664 M * Bertl hey the_hydra!
1169314666 M * Hollow Bertl: well, portage tells you after the update that X config files need to be updated and the user should run "etc-update"
1169314667 M * phreak`` Bertl: yeah, thats why I added a message to our postinst today :)
1169314684 M * Hollow ah yeah.. the names even changed
1169314686 M * phreak`` (which should tell him now to remove the init-script)
1169314694 M * phreak`` Hollow: morning :P
1169314697 M * Hollow morning
1169314697 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: ah, great, must have missed that indeed
1169314703 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: while merging with Fedora, i also found http://people.linux-vserver.org/~dhozac/p/k/delta-noforkns-fix01.diff
1169314713 M * daniel_hozac that's not supposed to be there, is it?
1169314774 M * Bertl hmm, probably not, we do the unshare in the legacy cruft now, IIRC
1169314781 M * daniel_hozac yes, indeed.
1169314796 M * Bertl good catch then, was probably my 'test' setup :)
1169314847 M * matti Bertl and Gentoo?
1169314859 M * matti Damn, I really did miss something :)
1169314862 M * daniel_hozac i also wrote http://linux-vserver.org/ChangeLog-2.2, could use some more eyes...
1169314905 M * daniel_hozac matti: he was merely the messenger ;)
1169314931 M * Bertl matti: not using gentoo yet, just relaying information 
1169314938 M * matti :-)
1169314947 M * matti daniel_hozac: I was almost about to hug him ;p
1169314948 M * matti :D
1169314954 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: nice work!
1169314989 M * Bertl we still have one open issue I want to investigate
1169315042 M * daniel_hozac which is?
1169315070 M * Bertl Message-ID: <64a616a10612210645g9dfd9efy4977ac71998406c@mail.gmail.com>
1169315091 M * daniel_hozac were the do_task_stat oopses ever completely fixed, btw? (i seemed to remember there being more recent reports of it, that's why the 2.2.0-rc5 text says attempt)
1169315119 M * Bertl that is exactly the issue I was referring to
1169315166 M * Bertl we have that one guy which still seems to see the oops, but we haven't had any report (or occurance) of this issue since we fixed the order
1169315192 M * Bertl he didn't get one of the bug messages either, as far as I understood, it bails out as before
1169315265 M * Hollow Bertl: you should try it ;)
1169315273 M * Hollow it's worth it ;)
1169315281 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: we have the logs and the kernel, as well as the config ...
1169315322 M * Bertl Hollow: I'm absolutely sure of that, and I probably will sooner or later, but for now, distro testing is not very hight up on my todo list :)
1169315462 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: do we have a reproducer?
1169315482 M * daniel_hozac i mean, something has to be accessing proc regularly for this to happen, right?
1169315508 M * daniel_hozac (or just at really unfortunate times)
1169315509 M * Bertl it seems to be pidof always triggering that
1169315531 M * Bertl so I thought about running a pidof in an endless loop
1169315557 M * Bertl it's simple dual cpu x86, so it shouldn't be hard to 'emulate' that
1169315605 M * Bertl my main problem is that his oops console log always looks fishy to me
1169315622 M * Bertl the first few traces did not mention the kernel version at all
1169315635 M * Bertl the last trace has no asm block attached ...
1169315669 M * Bertl ah, yes, it has, it's broken down on a one hex per line :)
1169315719 M * Bertl I guess I should reformat the oops first :)
1169315731 M * daniel_hozac hehe.
1169315910 Q * kdean06 Quit: Leaving
1169316102 M * Bertl http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/BUGHUNT/jarek-0001/oops.txt
1169316115 M * daniel_hozac i'm not getting anything with while true; do pidof pidof & :; done
1169316139 M * daniel_hozac granted, this is a UP-box.
1169316170 M * Bertl if it is related to tsk suddenly disappearing, it probably requires SMP
1169316252 M * daniel_hozac yeah.
1169316324 M * daniel_hozac is the vmlinux addr2line'able? i.e. do we know if it's still pointing its finger at get_task_state?
1169316346 M * the_hydra yes
1169316355 M * the_hydra it still contains symbol table IIRC
1169316380 M * the_hydra oh wait, you need DEBUG_INFO too
1169316393 M * daniel_hozac yep...
1169316406 M * Bertl we have the config too, but with the bytecode we should be able to pinpoint the exact code path
1169316423 M * daniel_hozac yeah, good idea.
1169316439 M * Bertl I just didn't see it last time :)
1169316445 M * daniel_hozac hehe.
1169317055 Q * dlezcano Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1169317107 M * Bertl interesting, seems like objdump cannot make heads or tail of the code right before that happens
1169317208 M * Bertl http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/BUGHUNT/jarek-0001/analysis.txt
1169317365 M * Guy- can I give a vserver an IP in the loopback subnet (say, 127.0.31.28/8) and still give it internet access via NAT?
1169317394 M * Bertl yes, but unless you are using 2.3.x, the loopback address is not advised ...
1169317406 M * Guy- OK, I'll forget it then
1169317423 M * Bertl a private network ip will serve the same purpose
1169317443 M * Guy- OK, but I still don't see how routing is going to work
1169317451 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: ah, here is the reason for the 'confused' objdump: CONFIG_CC_OPTIMIZE_FOR_SIZE=y
1169317456 M * Guy- I can't have a different default gw in the vserver than in the host, can I?
1169317476 M * Bertl you can, by utilizing the multiple routing table feature
1169317476 M * daniel_hozac i thought that just enabled -Os? does -Os generate unreadable asm?
1169317490 M * Guy- Bertl: like ip route add ... table x?
1169317497 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: well, it packs it in such way that you _need_ to know the start addresses
1169317505 M * Guy- Bertl: and how do I tell the vserver which routing table to use?
1169317519 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: slowing down execution because of alignment issues and such
1169317530 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: start addresses of...? the symbols?
1169317537 M * Bertl Guy-: with ip rule ...
1169317548 M * Guy- based on the source address?
1169317554 M * daniel_hozac right
1169317567 M * Guy- or iptables MARK?
1169317572 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: basically you have to walk all the jumps and start disassembling on the destination points
1169317587 M * Bertl Guy-: typically rule .. from <srcip> is enough
1169317592 M * daniel_hozac oh, ok.
1169317606 M * Guy- OK
1169317609 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: I will do that right now
1169317609 M * daniel_hozac my objdump looks a lot different from yours...
1169317611 M * Guy- thanks, will try
1169317632 M * daniel_hozac but i also don't have an instruction at EIP, so i'm just going to assume it's wrong.
1169317640 M * Bertl yes
1169317662 M * Bertl start your objdump at the address I listed
1169317674 M * Bertl and it will magically look like what I have right now :)
1169317735 M * daniel_hozac yeah, there we go :)
1169318109 J * FCOJ ~mordur@dsl-201-4.hive.is
1169318118 M * Bertl wb FCOJ!
1169318525 M * FCOJ Thanks
1169318585 Q * kir Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1169318656 M * daniel_hozac are there any mandriva tarballs around?
1169318703 M * Bertl you mean guest images?
1169318746 M * daniel_hozac yeah.
1169318768 M * Bertl guess the OVZ folks should have some, but I probably can provide older ones too
1169318831 M * phreak`` http://download.openvz.org/template/precreated/mandriva-2006-i386-minimal.tar.gz
1169318846 M * Bertl so older one too, but should work
1169318905 M * daniel_hozac thanks.
1169318983 M * Bertl you will have to cleanup the dev dir and the init scripts (chkconfig)
1169319015 M * daniel_hozac build -m template does the first already ;)
1169319025 M * Bertl excellent!
1169319075 Q * shedi Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1169319660 J * Linolo foobar@dslb-084-063-028-027.pools.arcor-ip.net
1169319729 P * Linolo Kopete 0.12.3 : http://kopete.kde.org
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1169319846 Q * raw_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1169319857 J * raw_ squid@wwwbox.uni-mb.si
1169320196 J * michal` ~michal@www.rsbac.org
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1169320715 J * guigah login.net@200.213.40.196
1169320726 P * guigah 
1169320952 M * Bertl hmm, guess I have to contact Jarek again, I get completely different code even with the same .config, so probably a 'special' compiler too
1169321771 Q * the_hydra 
1169322258 J * kir ~kir@swsoft-mipt-nat.sw.ru
1169322347 Q * phreak`` Quit: leaving
1169322360 J * phreak`` ~phreak``@deimos.barfoo.org
1169322678 M * Bertl wb kir!
1169324628 Q * doener Server closed connection
1169324634 J * doener ~doener@host.magicwars.de
1169327624 M * Hollow daniel_hozac: 0.30.212 will be stable in gentoo in a few minutes, and the doc at http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/vps/vserver-howto.xml has been updated, will update the wiki tomorrow if nobody else did
1169327642 M * daniel_hozac ok, cool.
1169327659 M * Hollow (actually the doc is not up to date ... takes some time until cvs syncs with web server ;)
1169327719 J * Aiken ~james@tooax8-043.dialup.optusnet.com.au
1169327933 M * Bertl morning Aiken!
1169327989 M * Aiken good morning Bertl, still only lurking
1169328448 Q * FireEgl Server closed connection
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1169329554 Q * cryptronic Server closed connection
1169329596 J * cryptronic crypt@mail.openvcp.org
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1169331170 J * cryptronic crypt@mail.openvcp.org
1169331170 J * m`m`h ~simba@deb30.mgts.by
1169331170 J * FireEgl Atl-NA@adsl-17-158-129.bhm.bellsouth.net
1169331170 J * phreak`` ~phreak``@deimos.barfoo.org
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1169331170 J * Ramjar ~ramjar@195.159.98.150
1169331170 J * bj ~bj@insanefactory.com
1169331170 J * ||Cobra|| ~cob@pc-csa01.science.uva.nl
1169331170 J * mugwump ~samv@watts.utsl.gen.nz
1169331170 J * ex ex@valis.net.pl
1169331170 J * nebuchadnezzar ~nebu@zion.asgardr.info
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1169331170 J * Adrinael adrinael@st12-127.tky.hut.fi
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1169331187 J * mountie ~mountie@CPE0080c6fe323f-CM000a739acaa4.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com
1169331187 J * blizz ~blizz@evilhackerdu.de
1169331187 J * SNy 304cf63b59@bmx-chemnitz.de
1169331187 J * Wonka produziert@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net
1169331187 J * ard ~ard@gw-cistron.kwaak.net
1169331187 J * hardwire ~hardwire@rdbck-2624.wasilla.mtaonline.net
1169331187 J * ag- ~ag@caladan.roxor.cx
1169331187 J * transacid ~transacid@transacid.de
1169331187 J * kaner kaner@strace.org
1169331188 J * Vudumen ~vudumen@perverz.hu
1169331188 J * MrX ~chaos@179.13.95.219.kmr01-home.tm.net.my
1169331188 J * tamitall ~tam@gw.nettam.com
1169331188 J * duckx ~Duck@tox.dyndns.org
1169331188 J * comfrey ~comfrey@70.91.185.84
1169331188 J * sannes ace@har.sagt.no
1169331188 J * goblin ~trrr@leviathan.uukgoblin.net
1169331188 J * tokkee tokkee@casella.verplant.org
1169331188 J * bXi bluepunk@irssi.co.uk
1169331188 J * nox ~nox@nox.user.oftc.net
1169331188 J * sc0tt ~scott@209.51.169.84
1169331188 J * Zaki ~Zaki@88.213.59.176
1169331188 J * sladen paul@starsky.19inch.net
1169331188 J * weasel weasel@weasel.noc.oftc.net
1169331230 J * michal` ~michal@www.rsbac.org
1169331230 J * kugg ~kugg@90-227-91-196-no120.tbcn.telia.com
1169331230 J * meandtheshel1 ~markus@85-124-175-9.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at
1169331230 J * ntrs_ ~ntrs@68-188-55-120.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com
1169331230 J * daniel_hozac ~daniel@c-2c1472d5.010-230-73746f22.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se
1169331230 J * mnemoc ~amery@kilo105.server4you.de
1169331230 J * FaUl immo@shell.chaostreff-dortmund.de
1169331257 J * kir ~kir@swsoft-mipt-nat.sw.ru
1169331257 J * dna ~naucki@p54BCD95C.dip.t-dialin.net
1169331257 J * glut glut@no.suid.pl
1169331257 J * jacky ~jacky@c173158.adsl.hansenet.de
1169331257 J * bonbons ~bonbons@83.222.37.103
1169331257 J * Hollow ~hollow@styx.xnull.de
1169331257 J * mael_sanger ~gn1@guest501.wtgc.org
1169331257 J * harry ~harry@d54C2508C.access.telenet.be
1169331257 J * renihs ~penguin@83-65-34-34.arsenal.xdsl-line.inode.at
1169331257 J * Radiance ~Radiance@halt.1984world.eu
1169331257 J * derjohn ~derjohn@80.69.41.2
1169331257 J * SiD3WiNDR luser@bastard-operator.from-hell.be
1169331275 J * morfoh ~morfoh@kilo105.server4you.de
1169331275 J * eyck ~eyck@nat.nowanet.pl
1169331275 J * cehteh ~ct@pipapo.org
1169331275 J * mcp ~hightower@wolk-project.de
1169331275 J * Roey ~katz@h-69-3-4-130.mclnva23.covad.net
1169331275 J * Borg- borg@aprogas.student.utwente.nl
1169331275 J * fs fs@213.178.77.98
1169331275 J * vasko ~vasko@unreal.rainside.sk
1169331275 J * virtuoso ~s0t0na@shisha.spb.ru
1169331275 J * trippeh atomt@x.vx.no
1169332665 J * shedi ~siggi@ftth-237-144.hive.is
1169333550 M * matti Did anyone tried to apply stable patch on 2.6.19.2? It seem, that few or more than few thing was changed in kernel. Hm.
1169333570 M * Bertl that's why 2.2.x is there :)
1169333592 M * Bertl 2.0.x will not be ported to 2.6.19 or later
1169333745 M * matti Is 2.2 stable enough?
1169333759 M * matti 2.0.x is rock solid.
1169333762 M * Bertl it's the upcoming stable release, so I hope it is ...
1169333819 M * matti In this case I have no doubts it is.
1169333825 M * matti Bertl: Thank you!
1169333827 M * matti Bertl++
1169333836 M * Bertl you're welcome!
1169333861 M * matti :)
1169333993 M * SiD3WiNDR hehe
1169334005 M * SiD3WiNDR I installed the latest rc yesterday on a server 300km away
1169334010 M * SiD3WiNDR so I must hope it is stable! ;)
1169334226 M * Hollow 2.2 runs very fine here in production :)
1169334247 M * Hollow linux-vserver.org runs on 2.2 ;)
1169334319 J * skvader ~skvader@pD951F75C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
1169334363 M * Bertl welcome skvader!
1169334376 M * skvader thx
1169334379 M * skvader hi all
1169334429 M * matti :)
1169334431 M * matti Hi skvader 
1169334444 M * skvader phreak``: darf man stören?
1169334457 M * matti Do I need some special changes in a way how guests are working?
1169334482 M * phreak`` skvader: sure
1169334497 M * phreak`` matti: regarding what ?
1169334507 M * Bertl matti: no, although it is advised to update to recent tools
1169334509 M * matti phreak``: Userspace tools for example.
1169334516 M * matti Bertl: I see.
1169334516 M * matti :)
1169334526 M * skvader phreak``: r u phreak@gentoo.org?
1169334535 M * matti skvader: Yes he is.
1169334578 M * Bertl skvader: channel language is english and we _hate_ UTF8 :)
1169334604 M * matti We hate?
1169334605 M * matti ;]
1169334608 M * phreak`` skvader: 00:09) [oftc] -!- phreak`` [~phreak``@deimos.barfoo.org]
1169334608 M * phreak`` (00:09) [oftc] -!-  ircname  : Christian Heim <phreak@gentoo.org>
1169334609 M * skvader phreak``: i wonderd why ipw has been masked and couldnt find any further informations why....
1169334628 M * phreak`` skvader: this is definitely the wrong channel for ipw :)
1169334630 M * matti skvader: This is wrong channel to ask about  :)
1169334657 M * phreak`` skvader: you probably want me to ask that in any other #gentoo- related channel but not here :)
1169334674 M * skvader but the only place i found you?!?
1169334698 M * skvader phreak``: tried #gentoo, where else r u?
1169334720 M * matti skvader: Wrong IRC network.
1169334730 M * matti skvader: Go to Freenode (irc.freenode.net).
1169334734 M * skvader i'm also on freenode
1169334738 M * matti Oh.
1169334739 M * matti :)
1169334841 M * phreak`` skvader: #gentoo-laptop fex or you could #gentoo now ..
1169335244 M * SiD3WiNDR fex!
1169335604 J * adrien-modulis ~adrien@hvmoduli.enter-net.com
1169335714 M * Bertl welcome adrien-modulis!
1169335810 M * adrien-modulis Hi Bertl
1169335861 J * _dmax ~semaj@81.193.60.195
1169336034 J * tso ~tso@238-048.adsl.pool.ew.hu
1169336106 M * Bertl welcome tso! wb _dmax!
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1169337198 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving