1168992014 J * bronson ~bronson@adsl-75-36-145-166.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net
1168992877 J * Aiken_ ~james@tooax6-058.dialup.optusnet.com.au
1168993185 M * Bertl morning Aiken_1
1168993200 Q * Aiken Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1168994777 M * Aiken_ morning
1168995881 J * adrien-modulis ~adrien@hvmoduli.enter-net.com
1168995897 M * adrien-modulis Hi
1168995927 M * adrien-modulis does anyone know how the loopback device work with the new vserver version (2.2) ?
1168996526 Q * mire Remote host closed the connection
1168997755 M * Bertl weclome adrien-modulis!
1168997760 M * Bertl which loopback device?
1168998003 M * adrien-modulis Hi Bertl
1168998032 M * adrien-modulis with the 2.2 there is a kernel option remap source IP 127.0.0.1
1168998051 M * adrien-modulis I enabled it, but it makes no difference
1168998157 M * adrien-modulis One of your post (http://www.mail-archive.com/vserver@list.linux-vserver.org/msg09966.html) said it will be removed in the next version
1168998186 Q * michal` Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1168998298 M * Bertl well, it will remap the source address
1168998323 M * adrien-modulis I'vebuild a new vserver
1168998342 M * adrien-modulis and ping 127.0.0.1 doesn't reply
1168998346 M * Bertl let's try to clarify what you 'thing' it to do
1168998351 M * Bertl *think
1168998363 M * Bertl ping is icmp (not ip)
1168998404 M * Bertl and the packets are generated by the ping binary itself
1168998414 M * adrien-modulis ok
1168998471 M * adrien-modulis maybe If I explain what I'm trying to do it will be easier
1168998487 M * Bertl okay
1168998487 M * adrien-modulis I have a program (asterisk) running in a vserver
1168998499 M * adrien-modulis it's bind to 0.0.0.0
1168998512 J * michal` ~michal@www.rsbac.org
1168998518 M * adrien-modulis the same program is running on the host but bind to a real ip
1168998527 M * Bertl okay
1168998527 M * adrien-modulis the virtual asterisk is not able to start
1168998539 M * Bertl why?
1168998588 M * adrien-modulis it says unable to bind to 0.0.0.0 already used
1168998616 M * Bertl in this case, your host astrerisk does not bind to a specific ip
1168998700 M * adrien-modulis so it means that asterisk is still listening to the 0.0.0.0
1168998712 M * adrien-modulis even If I told him to listen to a specific IP
1168998743 M * Bertl probably
1168998751 M * Bertl you can simply work around that though
1168998776 M * Bertl just wrap the host asterisk into some chbind --nid xxx --ip <host ip> -- ...
1168998796 M * adrien-modulis yep
1168998803 M * Bertl that will take care of restricting the ip without changing the config
1168998811 M * adrien-modulis that's a very good idea
1168998868 M * adrien-modulis other question, can I add lo(127.0.0.1) interface to multiple guests ?
1168998896 M * adrien-modulis or they will all be connected to the same virtual interface ?
1168999118 M * Bertl you _can_ add it, but it will reduce security
1168999138 M * Bertl i.e. without the 2.3.x functionality, you will end up with a 'shared' 127.0.0.1
1168999147 M * adrien-modulis ok I understand
1168999166 M * adrien-modulis so it's better yet to modify the applications not to use 127.0.0.1
1168999617 M * Bertl typically applications use 'localhost'
1168999630 M * Bertl only very broken ones insist on using 127.0.0.1
1168999641 M * adrien-modulis ok
1168999645 M * Bertl and the localhost can be reassigned in /etc/hosts
1168999663 M * Bertl so setting that to the first guest ip will work 
1168999710 M * adrien-modulis yes that works
1168999785 M * adrien-modulis thank you very much for your time Bertl, I'm sure chbinding the host apps will fix most of the issues
1168999795 M * Bertl you're welcome!
1168999884 P * adrien-modulis 
1169001273 M * Bertl okay, off for now ... back later (probably)
1169001278 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
1169005556 Q * Piet_ Quit: Piet_
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1169008284 M * daniel_hozac Bertl_oO: the COPY_FRI change means setting VXSM_MSEC in the mask when calling vc_get_sched, the intervals will be in msecs.
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1169009411 J * mnemoc ~amery@kilo105.server4you.de
1169010072 J * softi42 ~softi@p549D7F7C.dip.t-dialin.net
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1169013521 J * agryppa1 ~kb2qzv@cab-dr-cvx1-15.dial.airstreamcomm.net
1169013563 Q * Aiken_ Quit: Leaving
1169015321 J * Aiken ~james@tooax6-058.dialup.optusnet.com.au
1169016557 M * agryppa1 HI, my gentoo guest asks for no credentials. How to change that? I set passwords for root and one user "vserver guest enter" doesn't present any login screen.
1169016580 M * daniel_hozac it's not supposed to.
1169016589 Q * m`m`h Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1169016594 M * daniel_hozac vserver <guest> enter just gets you a shell inside
1169016607 M * agryppa1 that calms me donw a little
1169016634 M * agryppa1 how about network logins?
1169016660 M * daniel_hozac what about them?
1169016679 M * agryppa1 what to do to make them work for external users?
1169016702 M * daniel_hozac make what work?
1169016711 M * daniel_hozac and what's an "external" user?
1169016771 M * agryppa1 I want to create a user account on a guest. then allow that user to login from the outside into an X session
1169016801 M * daniel_hozac and the problem is...?
1169016834 M * agryppa1 I am stuck because I don't know what packages to merge for that to work :-)
1169016871 M * daniel_hozac would you be running the X server on the guest or the host?
1169016950 M * agryppa1 The X server with Graphical console would be on the host. The guest would provide an X session for the user
1169016977 M * daniel_hozac so the clients would all be running on the guest?
1169017007 M * agryppa1 vice versa
1169017054 M * daniel_hozac what?
1169017092 M * agryppa1 X on the guest would have to be in the daemon mode whereas the X server on the host would drive the graphics card
1169017178 M * daniel_hozac so you'd just set DISPLAY to <host>:0.0.
1169017184 M * daniel_hozac i.e. no X on the guest.
1169017209 M * agryppa1 I got confused with your question about the clients.
1169017228 M * daniel_hozac clients are the applications.
1169017256 M * daniel_hozac i.e. the window manager, the panels, and of course, the things you actually want to run.
1169017347 M * agryppa1 I wanted to test a graphical login into a guest, that is all. For now I would have to try it from the host. but it should also work from other machine.
1169017380 M * agryppa1 So what programs to install onto guest?
1169017455 M * daniel_hozac depends on how you intend to do it, i guess.
1169017508 M * daniel_hozac will you be using XDMCP?
1169017535 M * agryppa1 I have already installed: xdm and xorg-x11 without an X server onto guest. but when I try to start xdm it shows this:
1169017536 M * daniel_hozac or just do the whole vserver ... suexec thing from the session scripts?
1169017548 M * agryppa1 XDMCP
1169017616 M * agryppa1 /etc/init.d/xdm start
1169017616 M * agryppa1 /etc/init.d/xdm: line 88: /proc/cmdline: No such file or directory
1169017616 M * agryppa1  * Setting up xdm ...
1169017663 M * agryppa1 xdm is responsible for providing graphical logins to clients. this I know.
1169017800 M * daniel_hozac and you've configured xdm for XDMCP?
1169017883 M * agryppa1 Xaccess has this: * #any host can get a login window
1169017952 M * agryppa1 Now from the host I cat fire up a chooser, part of GDM, but my guest doesn't broadcast its readiness to serve a login window. It dowsn't show at all in the chooser
1169018017 M * agryppa1 no servers could be found
1169018110 M * agryppa1 I am worried about that error (line 88: /proc/cmdline:) Do you think it affects the issue?
1169018992 M * agryppa1 Also, when I stop the service I get this: /etc/init.d/xdm stop
1169018992 M * agryppa1 /etc/init.d/xdm: line 141: fgconsole: command not found
1169019088 M * agryppa1 Ok. I managed to get to the point where the guest's XDMCP broadcast is visible from the host's XDMCP shooser! That's i a little success. The above errors though persist.
1169019332 J * bronson ~bronson@adsl-75-36-145-166.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net
1169020576 Q * agryppa1 Quit: Leaving
1169021003 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1169021015 M * Bertl short visit, on my way to bed :)
1169021047 M * Bertl anything important?
1169021112 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: yeah, what I meant is, you basically have two changes there
1169021140 M * Bertl 1) COPY_FRI -> COPY_FR + COPY_INT
1169021147 M * Bertl 2) the MSEC stuff
1169021166 M * Bertl my question is: what do we need the splitup (1) for?
1169021173 M * daniel_hozac well, how would you do the MSEC stuff without the split?
1169021195 M * daniel_hozac make COPY_FRI have two parameters, one for how to copy the fill rates, and one for the intervals?
1169021352 M * Bertl IMHO it should suffice if we simply 'convert' them afterwards, no?
1169021380 M * daniel_hozac ok, that's true.
1169021384 M * Bertl basically two lines like this:
1169021394 M * Bertl if (vc_data.mask & VXSM_MSEC) {
1169021423 M * Bertl    ... interval[0] = tick2msec(*)
1169021441 M * Bertl right before the copy_to_user
1169021452 M * daniel_hozac indeed.
1169021492 M * Bertl okay, I'll prepare something when I get up (unless you have a patch ready by then :)
1169021517 M * Bertl anyway, thanks a bunch for testing the interfaces
1169021559 M * Bertl off to bed now .. have fun!
1169021573 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
1169021574 M * daniel_hozac good night!
1169021620 M * daniel_hozac http://people.linux-vserver.org/~dhozac/p/k/delta-getsched-feat02.diff
1169022112 J * cdrx ~legoater@blueice3n1.uk.ibm.com
1169023562 Q * Sebastian|aw Remote host closed the connection
1169024024 J * dlezcano ~dlezcano@AToulouse-252-1-106-207.w86-217.abo.wanadoo.fr
1169025213 J * dna ~naucki@16-203-dsl.kielnet.net
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1169028153 M * Radiance morning :)
1169028392 J * softi42 ~softi@p549D6FA8.dip.t-dialin.net
1169028553 Q * cdrx Read error: Connection reset by peer
1169029870 Q * Aiken Ping timeout: 480 seconds
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1169031846 J * cnwjd ~cwbjs@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net
1169033196 J * lilalinux ~plasma@dslb-084-058-203-234.pools.arcor-ip.net
1169033462 Q * cnwjd Remote host closed the connection
1169033749 M * harry how do i dynamically add an ip to a virtual host?
1169033755 M * cehteh mhm is the vserver list somehow stage setup? 
1169033786 M * cehteh harry: thats not really simple/safe .. you have to restart it
1169033815 M * cehteh alternatively you can leave out the chbind (no ip binding)
1169033822 M * harry ?
1169033829 M * harry i really need it
1169033843 M * cehteh and then carefully configure all stuff so that the host can alias a new ip
1169033844 M * harry i don't want to restart my entire vps every time i add a new ip based virtual host
1169033848 M * cehteh why do you need it?
1169033856 M * harry i add a new ip based virtual host
1169033867 M * cehteh a new guest?
1169033879 M * harry no, new ip based virtual host in a web environment
1169033893 M * harry (don't you dare suggesting i should set up new servers for each one! ;))
1169033909 M * cehteh eh 
1169033931 M * daniel_hozac if your guest already has 2 or more IP addresses, and you have util-vserver 0.30.212+, naddress --nid <guest> --add --ip <IP address>/<prefix> should do it.
1169033932 M * cehteh this is linux-vserver not linuxvserver :)
1169033956 M * harry daniel_hozac: tnx
1169033959 M * cehteh ah
1169033966 M * cehteh didnt know that one
1169034110 J * cdrx ~legoater@cap31-3-82-227-199-249.fbx.proxad.net
1169034234 M * harry daniel_hozac: what's nid?
1169034240 M * harry that's not ctx?
1169034244 M * daniel_hozac the network context id.
1169034252 J * sannes ace@har.sagt.no
1169034308 M * daniel_hozac unless you're doing strange things, it's the same as the xid.
1169034330 M * harry tnx
1169035172 J * FireEgl Proteus@2001:5c0:84dc:1:211:9ff:feca:b042
1169035430 Q * ensc Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by ensc_))
1169035440 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p54B4E97A.dip.t-dialin.net
1169036121 J * m`m`h ~simba@deb30.mgts.by
1169038320 J * duckx ~Duck@tox.dyndns.org
1169038865 J * barros ~barros@zaphod.inexo.com.br
1169038976 M * barros Hi.. is it possible to mount a pendrive (or something like) inside a vserver, but not using fstab and mounting it at boot time, I wanna mount it anytime, just plug and get it mounted????
1169039008 M * daniel_hozac sure.
1169039038 M * daniel_hozac just run vnamespace -e <guest> mount <device> /vservers/<guest>/<path>.
1169039089 M * barros hmmm... sounds good!!
1169039109 M * barros thanks! let me check it.. just a sec!
1169039239 M * Hollow daniel_hozac: why do you need at least two IPs configured? isn't NXF_SINGLE_IP for special casing of 1 IP?
1169039248 M * daniel_hozac yep.
1169039255 M * daniel_hozac but NXF_SINGLE_IP is 2.3+ only.
1169039260 M * Hollow ah.. right ..
1169039262 M * daniel_hozac before that it's implied.
1169039448 M * barros daniel_hozac, works like a charm!! thanks!!
1169039639 M * brcc 1
1169040698 Q * barros Quit: Leaving
1169041928 M * matti http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=8410
1169041961 M * matti Hollow, daniel_hozac :)
1169041974 M * matti Hi harry :)
1169041976 M * Roey Bertl_zZ:  heya! :)
1169041982 M * Hollow morning matti
1169041999 M * Roey Hey Hollow, matti, brcc & daniel_hozac 
1169042004 M * matti Hi Roey :)
1169042017 M * Roey So Bertl_zZ said last night that net-ng is there?
1169042028 M * matti Hollow: Morning?
1169042031 M * Roey (does this mean I can run OpenVPN in a VServer guest?)
1169042032 M * daniel_hozac parts of it at least.
1169042036 M * matti Hollow: When did you switch to BUT? :)
1169042043 M * daniel_hozac no.
1169042048 M * Roey oh, ok.
1169042066 M * daniel_hozac or well, obviously you can as OpenVPN works just fine already, with the proper config.
1169042079 M * matti Yep.
1169042089 M * daniel_hozac but there's no virtualized network stack or anything like that planned.
1169042096 M * daniel_hozac we're leaving that to mainline.
1169042111 M * Hollow matti: morning is the universal greeting ;)
1169042124 M * matti Hollow: Oh ;-p
1169043012 M * brcc Good morning
1169043031 M * brcc Daniel, will openvpn works insige the guest on the stable version ?
1169043046 M * daniel_hozac with the correct config, sure.
1169043146 M * brcc Changing caps ?
1169043186 M * brcc I mean, to make it possible for a guest to run openvpn, do i need to change the allowed capabilities of his guest ?
1169043210 M * daniel_hozac no.
1169043245 M * matti Hm.
1169043261 M * daniel_hozac http://linux-vserver.org/Frequently_Asked_Questions#Can_I_run_an_OpenVPN_Server_in_a_guest.3F
1169043270 A * matti is playing Quake 2 with himself.
1169043274 M * matti ;D
1169043300 M * matti This wirtualization solution from Apple is funny ;]
1169043305 M * matti Whops.
1169043320 M * matti s/wirtualization/virtualization/
1169043352 M * brcc 10x daniel
1169043363 M * brcc btw, sitllw aiting for people to try iptables inside vserver guests :)
1169043371 M * brcc i am working on other projects right now
1169043380 M * brcc as soon as i finish i am goign to do all tests myself and start using it on production
1169044352 M * matti Hm.
1169044355 M * matti Heh.
1169045370 Q * m`m`h Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1169045405 M * sannes Is iptables working withing guests now? or did I misread brcc now?
1169046363 M * daniel_hozac it's a userspace wrapper.
1169046378 J * Piet hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org
1169046579 J * m`m`h ~simba@deb30.mgts.by
1169047239 M * bXi anyone had any luck with freenx in a vserver?
1169047463 J * oo ~oo@89.191.9.147
1169047468 M * oo Hello.
1169047554 M * oo I just copied a Gentoo Linux machine into a vserver. When I try to start it it says that no command given, and that init-script most likely failed. How can I find out what is wrong?
1169047575 M * oo chroot to the vserver dir works like a charm
1169047603 M * daniel_hozac it means you're using the sysv initstyle, which doesn't work with Gentoo guests.
1169047625 M * bXi he needs to emerge sys-apps/baselayout-vserver right?
1169047629 M * daniel_hozac that too.
1169047632 M * oo ahh
1169047673 M * oo daniel_hozac: what other things do I need to do? 
1169047683 M * oo bXi: great tip, thanks.
1169047721 M * oo If someone could point me to a howto I would be very grateful.
1169047723 M * daniel_hozac other than switch to plain initstyle and change the baselayout? i think that might be it, but Hollow and phreak`` would know for sure.
1169047749 M * bXi oo there is a special vserver stage3
1169047762 M * Hollow oo: look at the blue box on top of http://oldwiki.linux-vserver.org/GentooGuestHowto
1169047768 M * oo Stupid question number three.. How do I switch to a plain initstyle?
1169047790 M * oo bXi: this is an old installation that I want to move..
1169047794 M * bXi ah
1169047795 M * oo Hollow: thanks!
1169047834 A * bXi tries to fix nxserver
1169047918 M * oo The $arch in ln -s ../usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/${arch}/vserver make.profile - Is this the arch of the hostos, or the arch of the previous physical machine the guest was running on?
1169047976 M * Hollow arch of the host
1169047981 M * oo ok
1169047989 M * Hollow actually, it should be the same ;)
1169048010 M * daniel_hozac not necessarily, with x86_64 running x86 guests...
1169048015 M * Hollow the only exception is where you move a x86 guest to x64
1169048025 M * oo Hollow: which is what I am doing
1169048033 M * Hollow then use x86
1169048036 M * oo great
1169048166 M * oo Hollow: The blue box did not do it for me.
1169048187 M * Hollow errors?
1169048209 M * oo Any good pastebins anywhere?
1169048232 M * Hollow paste.linux-vserver.org
1169048283 M * oo http://paste.linux-vserver.org/885
1169048301 M * Hollow did you change init style?
1169048322 M * Hollow echo plain > /etc/vservers/gp2/apps/init/tyle
1169048323 M * oo I did what was in the blue box, yes
1169048326 M * oo oh
1169048334 M * Hollow the blue box is just for converting the guest to baselayout-vserver
1169048340 M * Hollow and it should be run inside
1169048342 M * oo Sorry!
1169048346 M * Hollow i hope you did not run it on the host ;)
1169048350 M * oo Yes, I chrooted, of course
1169048352 M * oo ;)
1169048354 M * Hollow good :)
1169048387 M * oo hmm...
1169048388 M * oo root@hostos-1:~# echo plain > /etc/vservers/gp2/apps/init/style
1169048389 M * oo root@hostos-1:~# vserver gp2 start
1169048389 M * oo root@hostos-1:~# vserver gp2 enter
1169048389 M * oo "Did you check the list?"
1169048389 M * oo YES. TWICE. ARE YOU SURE THAT'S ENOUGH?
1169048390 M * oo         -- He's gonna find out...
1169048390 M * oo            (Terry Pratchett, Hogfather)
1169048392 M * oo borg / # logout
1169048392 M * oo root@hostos-1:~# 
1169048395 M * oo Kind of worked
1169048408 M * Hollow kind of?
1169048430 M * oo I expected more output :)
1169048450 M * Hollow there is no way to get init output
1169048468 M * Hollow it will try to open /dev/console which you don't have inside, and then fall back to /dev/null
1169048501 M * oo Ok. My ubuntu guests spams a lot when I start them
1169048519 M * Hollow oo: there will be a gentoo init style again in the future which will show rc's output, but it will still take some time, see http://shurl.org/QoHmj
1169048532 M * Hollow probably because you use sysv style with ubuntu
1169048538 M * Hollow sysv does not run init
1169048544 M * Hollow it starts scripts directly
1169048552 M * Hollow same with gentoo init style
1169048593 M * oo Hollow: ah. You are a very knowledgeable person. Want to come work for us in Norway? :)
1169048608 M * Hollow i happen to be maintainer for vserver in gentoo ;)
1169048635 M * Hollow narf. my connections is too slow today
1169048636 M * oo Heh, that pretty much explains it ;)
1169048650 M * Borg- who summons me?!
1169048659 M * Hollow oo: i can work for you, but i cannot come to norway :P
1169048668 M * Borg- ah.. just oo.. hostname or sth..
1169048673 M * oo Borg-:  sorry. My guest is named borg (after the race in star trek ;)
1169048678 M * Hollow hehe
1169048680 A * Borg- switch to idle mode again
1169048688 M * oo Hollow: where do you live?
1169048697 M * Hollow Berlin, DE
1169048714 M * oo Hollow: Ah. I would not move from Berlin to Oslo, Norway either :)
1169048732 M * Hollow i wouldn't move anywhere from berlin :P
1169048744 M * Hollow in fact, i just moved to berlin ;)
1169048919 M * oo I went there for Love Parade in.. 2002
1169048933 M * oo Love Parade was crap, but Berlin was great
1169048937 M * Hollow i wanted to last years .. but well
1169048966 M * matti Heh.
1169048968 M * matti Hi Borg- :)
1169048975 M * oo I guess love parade is not all it is cranked up to be if you are not on drugs..
1169048988 M * matti Borg-: How's life going in The Collective?
1169049001 M * Hollow oo: well, yeah.. kind of boring without :P
1169049254 Q * brcc Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1169049453 M * oo Hollow: thanks a _lot_ for your help!
1169049469 M * Hollow oo: your welcome!
1169049495 A * oo goes to kill off yet another old server..
1169049516 M * Hollow heh, i'm doing that for two days now ;)
1169049528 M * Hollow but i kill off old vservers
1169049532 M * oo I think it is that time of the year :)
1169049541 M * Hollow indeed
1169049552 M * oo I create new ones..
1169049565 M * oo Hollow: Do you have any experience with drbd ?
1169049585 M * Hollow no, unfortunately not .. more or less a hardware problem ;)
1169049621 M * oo Yeah, I only use it because I cannot afford a proper SAN or something :)
1169049819 J * oo_ ~oo@89.191.9.147
1169049927 M * Borg- matti: hi; Excellent. 
1169049955 Q * FireEgl Quit: ...
1169050018 J * nsit ~chatzilla@LPuteaux-151-41-39-45.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr
1169050024 N * nsit shoumy
1169050076 M * shoumy hi
1169050102 M * shoumy i'm french so i'm sorry for my english
1169050125 M * shoumy i search a web page where is referenced all the vserver commands
1169050207 M * Hollow shoumy: i don't know any .. are you looking for something special?
1169050225 Q * oo Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1169050248 M * shoumy in fact i search how to list all the vserver on the host
1169050278 M * shoumy and to know the memory and cpu utilisation of the vserver
1169050309 M * Hollow host installations depends on the distro you're using (at least if you don't want to build the source manually)
1169050328 M * shoumy i'm using a debian
1169050348 M * Hollow http://linux-vserver.org/Installation_on_Debian
1169050353 M * Hollow http://howtoforge.com/linux_vserver_debian_etch
1169050362 M * shoumy the vserver are already installed
1169050368 M * Hollow ah, ok
1169050407 M * shoumy i just want to know how many memory and cpu time they use
1169050417 M * Hollow vserver-stat
1169050423 M * Hollow is the command you're looking for
1169050431 M * shoumy i try
1169050570 M * shoumy it's not exactly the command i was looking for but it's very usefull
1169050806 J * lilalinux_ ~plasma@80.69.41.2
1169051118 Q * lilalinux Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1169051260 Q * cdrx Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1169051284 M * shoumy thanks Hollow goodbye everybody
1169051291 Q * shoumy Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.77 [Firefox 2.0.0.1/2006120418]
1169051344 J * jtrsh ~vnods@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net
1169051530 Q * jtrsh Quit: Leaving
1169051804 J * jtrsh ~vnods@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net
1169051835 M * oo_ uhm. /sbin/init disappeared
1169051871 J * cdrx ~legoater@cap31-3-82-227-199-249.fbx.proxad.net
1169051890 M * oo_ Anyone remembers what I need to emerge to get /sbin/init
1169051893 M * oo_ in Gentoo?
1169051919 M * Hollow sys-apps/sysvinit
1169051960 M * oo_ ahyes. I forgot emerge that one.
1169052099 M * oo_ named: capset failed: Operation not permitted - doesnt named run inside vservers?
1169052255 M * Hollow oo_: which use flags do you have set for bind?
1169052292 M * oo_ Oh my Gentoo is rusty...   etcat uses bind ?
1169052314 M * Hollow etcat?
1169052337 M * oo_ How do I get the use flags.. :)
1169052348 A * oo_ feels like a bloody n00b.
1169052359 M * Hollow emerge bind -vp
1169052429 M * oo_ USE="berkdb%* ipv6 ssl -dlz% -doc -idn% -ldap% -mysql% -odbc% -postgres% (-selinux) -threads%"
1169052442 M * oo_ the ipv6, maybe?
1169052519 M * oo_ Q: I get the error message "named: capset failed: Operation not permitted"
1169052520 M * oo_ when starting named.
1169052520 M * Hollow hm.. with -threads it should pass --disable-lionux-caps to ./configure
1169052520 M * oo_ A: The capability module, part of "Linux Security Modules/LSM", has not been
1169052520 M * oo_ loaded into the kernel. See insmod(8).
1169052537 M * Hollow well, you're nt allowed to set capabilities inside
1169052578 M * oo_ So how do I get bind to not try?
1169052608 M * Hollow pass --disable-linux-caps to ./configure ;)
1169052618 M * Hollow but the ebuild should do that if threads is not in USE
1169052633 M * oo_ I am re-emerging now
1169052647 M * oo_ The new server is actually fun to emerge stuff in.. ;)
1169052727 M * oo_ Hm, how does dhcp behave inside a vserver?
1169052759 M * Hollow bad :)
1169052775 M * Hollow actually you need NET_RAW capabilty for it AFAIK, and this is very insecure
1169052780 M * oo_ Heh, no surprise..
1169052787 M * Hollow this would basically allow the vserver to sniff all traffic
1169052790 M * oo_ Not a problem
1169052805 M * oo_ Is NET_RAW possible for just one vserver?
1169052809 M * Hollow yep
1169052816 M * oo_ nice.
1169052818 M * oo_ I want it
1169052823 M * oo_ Where do I set it? :)
1169052824 M * Hollow echo net_raw >> /etc/vserver/<name>/bcapabilities
1169053010 M * oo_ Do I need to restart it?
1169053030 M * ard Hmmmm
1169053043 M * Hollow you can also set it manually, but a restart will do fine as well
1169053045 M * ard you also need another identifier for the dhcp server
1169053052 M * ard (i guess)
1169053078 M * oo_ ard: what identifier do you mean?
1169053096 M * oo_ Hollow: how do I set it manually? (my god I am a n00b)
1169053104 J * fcbarcelona ~fcbarcelo@82.198.125.154
1169053106 M * ard If you have more than one client requesting a dhcp lease with the same mac...
1169053129 M * Hollow oo_: vattribute --help :)
1169053134 M * oo_ Hollow:  ;)
1169053135 Q * fcbarcelona 
1169053151 M * ard If you have only one, then that is not a problem
1169053173 M * ard Hmmmm
1169053189 M * ard I'm now convinced I didn't read your question right
1169053198 M * ard You are talking about a dhcp server
1169053203 M * oo_ Yes
1169053208 A * ard puts something in his mouth
1169053220 M * ard so never mind what I said
1169053226 M * oo_ vattribute --set --bcap net_raw gp2  - no go..
1169053228 M * ard I was thinking client, not server
1169053623 Q * jtrsh Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1169053775 M * oo_ Todays most stupid question. Where did 127.0.0.1 go?
1169053871 M * Hollow oo_: no lo inside guests, you won't need it anyway
1169053892 M * oo_ yeah.. I set localhost to the Other IP [tm]
1169053907 M * oo_ That helped a lot :)
1169054124 M * oo_ I need two interfaces on this box, on two different physical interfaces.. but there is only one dev file. Anyone has a good howto for that?
1169054260 J * oo ~oo@89.191.9.147
1169054431 J * jtrsh ~vnods@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net
1169054620 Q * oo_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1169055140 Q * dlezcano Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1169055688 J * bonbons ~bonbons@83.222.37.103
1169055813 M * oo I have two interfaces, eth0 and eth2. I want to have two interfaces in my host as well.. Google does not want to tell me how I get this done :( Any ideas?
1169055850 M * Borg- huh? 2 different networks?
1169055885 M * oo Borg-: yes. One for the external IP and one for the internal.
1169055885 M * Borg- just add --interface eth0:1.2.3.4/24 --interface eth2:5.6.7.8/24 to vserver-build
1169055893 J * fcbarcelona ~fcbarcelo@82.198.125.154
1169055897 M * oo Borg-: a bit late - it is already built
1169055906 M * Borg- stop it
1169055912 M * Borg- edit /etc/vserver/name/dev
1169055915 M * Borg- mkdir 1
1169055916 M * oo Borg-: But thanks - I'll remember that one
1169055918 M * Borg- dev=eth2
1169055927 M * Hollow  /etc/vservers/<name>/interfaces/ that is
1169055934 M * Borg- ahh riught ;) interfaces ;]
1169055957 M * Borg- rest is the same.. mkdir another dir.. and make files dev ip prefix
1169055959 M * Borg- vioala
1169055967 M * oo so  /etc/vservers/gp2/interfaces/dev contains eth0 AND eth2 ?
1169055974 Q * fcbarcelona 
1169055988 M * oo aha
1169055990 M * Borg- hmmm.. what vserver? LATEST?
1169055998 M * Borg- seems sth changed
1169055999 M * bonbons oo: /etc/vserver/gp2/interfaces/{1,2}/dev
1169056003 M * oo dev in interfaces/0 AND interfaces/1
1169056005 M * oo yes
1169056006 M * oo got it
1169056007 M * bonbons once eth0, once eth1
1169056007 M * oo finally
1169056017 M * Borg- ;)
1169056025 M * Hollow oo: did you see my query?
1169056027 M * oo I got really confused by /etc/vservers/<name>/interfaces/dev
1169056038 M * oo Hollow: no
1169056043 M * oo Hollow: I fell off a bit
1169056046 M * oo :)
1169056135 J * brcc bruce@i.am.someasshole.com
1169056716 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1169056720 M * Bertl morning folks!
1169057076 M * Borg- evern Bertl 
1169057083 M * Borg- evening even
1169057205 M * Bertl hey Borg-! how's going?
1169057250 M * Borg- quite fine :) everything works as it should :> thx :)
1169057263 M * Borg- also learned new cool script lang.. Ruby.. very nice.
1169057266 M * Borg- and you?
1169057284 M * Bertl just woke up, but I'm fine so far ... :)
1169057306 Q * oo Read error: No route to host
1169057376 M * Borg- bah.. and im going to sleep soon ;)
1169060303 M * bXi http://oinkzwurgl.org/stuff/yoda/yoda.jpg :D
1169060375 Q * lilalinux_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1169060376 Q * derjohn Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1169060719 M * Hollow Bertl: is there a way to get rid of this patch? http://dev.croup.de/proj/gentoo-vps/browser/vserver-sources/2.3.0.6/4411_vs2.0.2-vesafb-cvirt-fix.patch
1169060819 J * Piet_ hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org
1169060940 M * Bertl Hollow: hum, why is that required? or where does that come from?
1169060996 M * Hollow Bertl: the gentoo patchset adds the vesafb-tng driver.. and we need to include this header for vs_rpid or sth like that i don't remember exactly
1169061015 M * Bertl and the driver uses that?
1169061080 M * Bertl I would expect a vesafb driver to have nothing to do with pid mapping :)
1169061085 M * Hollow seems so.. i have no idea about the driver, but (at least for 2.0.2) it failed to compile without
1169061101 M * Hollow but i want to get rid of that patch
1169061111 M * Bertl okay, check again with 2.2.x (i.e. try to remove the include)
1169061117 M * Hollow ok, will do
1169061133 M * Bertl let me know if there is a warning/error, I will look into that code then
1169061143 M * Hollow ok, thanks
1169061147 M * Bertl np
1169061158 J * derjohn ~derjohn@80.69.41.2
1169061170 J * lilalinux ~plasma@dslb-084-058-221-104.pools.arcor-ip.net
1169061180 Q * Piet Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1169061191 Q * blizz Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1169061349 J * lilalinux_ ~plasma@dslb-084-058-203-074.pools.arcor-ip.net
1169061754 Q * lilalinux Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1169061765 Q * brcc Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1169061980 M * Hollow Bertl: works without the path using 2.2.0_rc6 :)
1169062012 M * Hollow now we only need to get rid of the EXTRAVERSION hunk ;)
1169062083 J * Smutje ~Smutje@xdsl-87-78-98-134.netcologne.de
1169062559 Q * Radiance Remote host closed the connection
1169062598 J * oo ~oo@89.191.9.147
1169062607 M * Bertl welcome oo!
1169062632 M * oo rsync -a  without --numerical-id  is really not the right thing to do when rsyncing before creating a vserver..
1169062642 M * Bertl nope
1169062645 M * oo Bertl: whee! Thank you :)
1169062657 A * oo just learned the hard, hard way
1169062658 M * Bertl better is -axH --numerical-id
1169062667 M * oo Bertl: NOW you tell me.. ;)
1169062669 M * Bertl (also preserves the links :)
1169062683 M * Bertl you didn't _ask me_ before :)
1169062699 M * oo I bet you say that to all the boys
1169062747 A * oo runds find a lot
1169062986 A * FaUl transposes oo and get an 8 ;-)
1169062990 M * FaUl gets
1169062995 M * oo Hehe
1169063228 Q * jtrsh Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1169063269 J * jtrsh ~vnods@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net
1169063287 M * Bertl wb jtrsh!
1169063425 M * oo Hollow: The one thing that was REALLY annoying was when I fucked up an iptables rule and had to use the console of hostos...  The Gentoo vserver had pwnd the console so I had to do the three-finger salute :)
1169063451 M * Hollow oo: remove /dev/console from inside
1169063492 M * Hollow you should probably even do: cd /dev; rm -rf *; MAKEDEV generic-vserver (from inside)
1169063500 M * oo Hollow: yeah :) But I had no access to the machine anymore..
1169063506 M * oo clever
1169063508 M * Hollow yeah..
1169063522 M * oo Hollow: great, I'll do that :)
1169063531 M * Hollow you could have prevented the reboot by logging in via ssh to the host, but with iptables fcked up.. kind-of hard :P
1169063594 M * Hollow Bertl: can we use localversion in vserver patches instead of patching EXTRAVERSION? would make maintainers life easier :)
1169063627 M * Bertl you are not going to tell me that this 'tiny' patch causes you maintainance issues?
1169063683 M * Bertl just make yourself a script which uses filterdiff to cut it out, grep/sed to analyze the version and probably gawk to replace the version in the config :)
1169063722 M * Hollow but why do all this fuzz when we have localversion?
1169063736 M * Bertl because I would have to change all my scripts otherwise :)
1169063743 M * Hollow git!
1169063746 M * Hollow *scnr*
1169063746 M * Hollow :)
1169063975 M * oo Hollow: that really did screw up things..
1169064017 M * oo Hollow: I had to copy /dev/ from hostos to get things back.
1169064028 M * Hollow break what?
1169064047 M * Bertl oo: Linux-VServer guests need only a few (8 IIRC) dev entries
1169064055 M * oo Hollow:  MAKEDEV generic-vserver did not create /dev/null. ..
1169064074 M * Bertl oo: all other entires are compromising security ... 
1169064084 M * oo Bertl: Do you have a list somewhere?
1169064182 M * Bertl console   random    null   urandom
1169064182 M * Bertl pts	  tty	    ptmx   zero
1169064197 M * Bertl where console here is a symlink to null
1169064202 M * Hollow oo: how does /dev look like after MAKEDEV generic-vserver?
1169064519 J * Radiance ~Radiance@halt.1984world.eu
1169064698 J * avena ~avena@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net
1169064957 M * Bertl welcome avena!
1169064999 Q * FaUl Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1169065107 M * avena thanks
1169065121 M * matti Hi Bertl.
1169065129 M * Bertl hey matti!
1169065261 J * FaUl immo@shell.chaostreff-dortmund.de
1169065394 N * Piet_ Piet
1169066989 Q * oo Quit: brb.
1169068091 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving
1169068832 J * blizz ~blizz@evilhackerdu.de
1169068839 M * Bertl welcome blizz!
1169068967 J * brcc bruce@i.am.someasshole.com
1169070462 J * Piet_ hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org
1169070616 Q * Piet Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by Piet_))
1169070783 N * Piet_ Piet
1169071285 Q * Johnnie Read error: Connection reset by peer
1169071314 J * Johnnie ~jdlewis@jdlewis.org
1169071952 J * Aiken ~james@tooax6-037.dialup.optusnet.com.au
1169073218 M * Bertl morning Aiken!
1169073341 M * Aiken hi
1169074379 J * kugg ~kugg@90-227-91-196-no120.tbcn.telia.com
1169074403 M * kugg hi
1169074644 M * Bertl welcome kugg!
1169074644 M * kugg im using vs2.1.1 and vtop with procps version 3.2.1. Im not sure this is a bug but when i run vtop i get bogus/wrong usernames in the process list.
1169074644 M * kugg thanks Bertl 
1169074644 M * Bertl that is okay
1169074644 M * kugg heh ok
1169074644 M * Bertl vtop basically is chcontext --xid 1 -- top
1169074647 M * kugg i see
1169074652 M * Bertl and top uses the /etc/passwd from the host
1169074660 M * kugg and therefore it takes the usernames from its local /etc/passwd
1169074665 M * kugg ah
1169074667 M * Bertl yep, precisely
1169074689 M * Bertl if you run the top inside the guest, it will use the proper names
1169074706 M * Bertl e.g. with vserver <name> exec top
1169074708 M * kugg yea, thats trye
1169074727 M * kugg the reason im asking is because i have memory management problems
1169074747 M * Bertl what kind of issues?
1169074748 M * kugg im running vlimit -c webb --memlock <somthing low>
1169074763 M * Bertl okay
1169074767 M * kugg mysql and apache1 is eating all ram even though i have limited thenm
1169074771 M * kugg them*
1169074776 M * kugg or their vserver
1169074788 M * Bertl memlock is pages _locked_ into memory
1169074791 M * kugg and i have used /etc/security/limits.conf aswell
1169074803 M * kugg okay
1169074808 M * Bertl check /proc/virtual/<xid>/limits for an overview
1169074818 M * kugg so rss should be thanswer then
1169074820 M * Bertl you'll find the currently used values there as well as the limits
1169074848 M * Bertl with 2.2.x the rss is the proper choice for what most folks consider 'ram' + swap
1169074899 M * kugg ok, btw I tried to set a softlimit and then run vserver webb exec free -m, but still I got the hosts systems output
1169074908 M * kugg sorry for being so messy ;)
1169074923 M * Bertl hmm, maybe your tools do not set the VIRT_MEM flag?
1169074958 M * kugg yea ill check up with some versions
1169074963 M * Bertl http://linux-vserver.org/Capabilities_and_Flags
1169074991 M * Bertl you can get the current settings via proc ... status
1169075049 M * kugg im using utils-vserver-0.30 i think
1169075060 M * Bertl that's pretty outdated :)
1169075073 M * kugg could be a reason for failure
1169075080 M * Bertl 0.30.212 should be a good choice, atm
1169075117 M * kugg ok
1169075183 J * oo ~oo@gprs-ggsn5-nat.mobil.telenor.no
1169075200 M * Bertl wb oo!
1169075221 M * oo Thanks!!
1169075439 M * kugg Thanks for your help Bertl its really appriciated!
1169075557 M * Bertl you're welcome!
1169076152 J * dmax ~semaj@81.193.62.53
1169076222 J * dlezcano ~dlezcano@AToulouse-252-1-34-30.w83-193.abo.wanadoo.fr
1169076406 M * Bertl welcome dmax! dlezcano!
1169076574 J * bronson_ ~bronson@adsl-75-36-145-166.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net
1169076696 Q * m`m`h Quit: υΘΟΦΥ Ρ ΟΤ ΧΑΣ
1169076717 J * m`m`h ~simba@deb30.mgts.by
1169076748 M * kugg Im using debian, and Im building from source, is these valid/correct config options? ./configure --with-vrootdir=/var/lib/vsvers/ --with-initdir=/etc/init.d/ --prefix=/usr/bin/
1169076784 M * kugg I want to keep th install as maintainers guideline'ish as possible
1169076841 M * doener hm, /usr/bin prefix looks strange, shouldn't that be /usr instead?
1169076852 M * kugg ok, thougt so
1169076888 M * doener you could look up the exact configure parameters in the debian source package
1169076905 M * kugg yes thats true, thanks for that tip
1169076993 M * doener Bertl: you're going to the U.S.? Princeton again?
1169077095 M * Bertl probably, yes
1169077134 M * Bertl well, it's vaccation, but I'll visit there too, I think
1169077140 M * doener heh
1169077325 Q * m`m`h Quit: υΘΟΦΥ Ρ ΟΤ ΧΑΣ
1169077347 J * m`m`h ~simba@deb30.mgts.by
1169077650 J * s0undt3ch ~s0undt3ch@81.193.62.53
1169077690 Q * oo Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1169078111 Q * m`m`h Quit: υΘΟΦΥ Ρ ΟΤ ΧΑΣ
1169078203 J * m`m`h ~simba@deb30.mgts.by
1169078257 M * kugg vlimit -c 49158 -a
1169078258 M * kugg vc_get_rlimit_mask(): Invalid argument
1169078292 M * Bertl dynamic contexts?
1169078332 M * kugg uh, I was supposed to ask a question but cant recall what that was, anyways ill shut up now :P