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1168908414 J * mire ~mire@207-166-222-85.adsl.verat.net
1168908421 M * Bertl wb mire!
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1168916666 M * Bertl welcome schnckl!
1168916702 J * Aiken ~james@tooax6-202.dialup.optusnet.com.au
1168916749 J * schnuck ~root@chello084112069049.1.11.vie.surfer.at
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1168916946 M * Bertl wb schnuck!
1168916953 J * schnckl ~schnckl@chello084112069049.1.11.vie.surfer.at
1168917023 P * schnuck 
1168917155 J * Aiken_ ~james@tooax7-200.dialup.optusnet.com.au
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1168928963 Q * tokkee osmosis.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net
1168928963 Q * micah osmosis.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net
1168928963 Q * neuralis osmosis.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net
1168928981 J * neuralis ~krstic@solarsail.hcs.harvard.edu
1168928998 J * micah ~micah@micah.riseup.net
1168929005 J * tokkee tokkee@casella.verplant.org
1168929022 J * Wonka produziert@chaos.in-kiel.de
1168929023 J * morfoh ~morfoh@kilo105.server4you.de
1168931078 M * Bertl okay, off to bed now ... have a good one everyone! cya!
1168931085 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
1168931292 M * cehteh ehm .. morning :)
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1168936131 J * wart ~wart@spray.anyhost.ru
1168936161 M * wart Hello. A quick question: why may chmod return with EPERM inside a vserver?
1168936174 M * daniel_hozac is the file immutable?
1168936216 M * daniel_hozac (lsattr <file>)
1168936224 M * wart Yes, just checked.
1168936227 M * wart Yes :)
1168936248 M * daniel_hozac so, that's why then.
1168936378 M * wart Great. But now the question is why the hell it is immutable..
1168936390 M * daniel_hozac hashification/unification will do that.
1168936411 M * wart Looks like this, yes. Thanks.
1168936674 M * cehteh mhm will chmod break the link when COW is enabled or will only writes do that?
1168936689 M * daniel_hozac with recent kernels, chmod/chown will break the link.
1168936699 M * cehteh nice
1168937737 J * dreamind ~dreamind@C2107.campino.wh.tu-darmstadt.de
1168937766 M * dreamind Hi!
1168937773 M * daniel_hozac hello
1168937792 M * dreamind hi daniel_hozac :)
1168938421 M * matti Hi daniel_hozac.
1168938423 M * matti cehteh: :)
1168938436 M * daniel_hozac morning matti
1168938948 J * dlezcano ~dlezcano@blueice2n1.uk.ibm.com
1168939066 J * shedii ~siggi@inferno.lhi.is
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1168945293 J * lilalinux ~plasma@dslb-084-058-214-001.pools.arcor-ip.net
1168945472 N * SNy_ SNy
1168945677 J * dna ~naucki@250-244-dsl.kielnet.net
1168947570 M * Radiance for some reason after installing portmap (-i 192.168.1.2) and having squirrelmail working, i see in the firewall logs of the host that 127.0.0.1 is trying to reach 192.168.1.2 (DPT=111) ... i don't want 127.0.0.1 on the host to be able to reach the the other localhost ip of the guest. 
1168947602 M * Radiance is there a way i can allow portmap to work, IF it is caused by portmap ?
1168947644 J * Piet hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org
1168947663 M * Radiance it should have been 192.168.1.2 SPT=xxxx to 192.168.1.2 DPT=111 which is acceptable by the firewall of the host
1168947689 M * Radiance but not 127.0.0.1 since that would cause local users on the host to be able to reach the guest like that
1168947727 M * daniel_hozac they are already.
1168947740 M * daniel_hozac one of the many reasons you're not supposed to run services in the host.
1168947785 M * daniel_hozac and 127.0.0.1 would be rewritten to 192.168.1.2 if you enabled CONFIG_VSERVER_REMAP_SADDR.
1168947927 M * Radiance hmm
1168947953 M * Radiance well currently the firewall is configured not to allow 127.0.0.1 go to 192.168.1.2
1168947980 M * Radiance but with this setting the portmap stuff won't work in the guest
1168948004 M * Radiance that remap setting i saw indeed
1168948043 M * Radiance (with a newer vserver patch version, not with the current one i use)
1168948077 M * daniel_hozac connections to 127.0.0.1 inside a guest with that option off will look like src 127.0.0.1 dst <first IP of guest>
1168948098 M * Radiance ok, so i should read it like 192... is trying to reach 127
1168948146 M * Radiance i believe that the way portmap is programmed it cannot be changed by some setting
1168948161 M * Radiance (despite that i have portmap -i 192.168.1.2)
1168948209 M * Radiance perhaps better said, portmap might contain a hardcode 127.0.0.1 ip
1168948232 M * Radiance i think i'll move the few services away from host to their own vserver or a different server, more secure anyway hehe
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1168955262 J * goblin ~trrr@leviathan.uukgoblin.net
1168955264 M * goblin hiya
1168955270 M * daniel_hozac hello
1168955289 M * goblin any idea why when I run startx inside a vserver I get "no devices found"?
1168955301 M * goblin I added sys_rawio to bcapabilities
1168955319 M * daniel_hozac in what context?
1168955328 M * daniel_hozac did you add the required device nodes as well?
1168955328 M * goblin in vserver's context
1168955342 M * goblin well, I have the ttys and /dev/input/mice
1168955342 M * daniel_hozac i meant in what context do you get that error message.
1168955354 M * daniel_hozac i.e. what devices is it referring to?
1168955392 M * goblin my guess it's screen..
1168955427 M * goblin the line above it says (II) ATI: Candidate "Device" section "Card0"
1168955495 M * goblin oh, sorry, it looks like it's a config problem indeed... it used to work in a simple chroot, now it even doesn't
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1168956192 J * cdrx ~legoater@blueice2n1.uk.ibm.com
1168956420 M * goblin yeah
1168956426 M * goblin got it back again
1168956439 M * goblin so, it works fine under normal chroot (but only after I mount /proc)
1168956453 M * goblin and it says "No devices detected" under a vserver
1168956500 M * goblin that's 2.6.19.2-vs2.2.0-rc7, mind you
1168956501 M * daniel_hozac have you tried giving it CAP_SYS_ADMIN too?
1168956526 M * goblin trying it now...
1168956555 M * daniel_hozac http://oldwiki.linux-vserver.org/MoreUbuntu might have some hints, AFAIK that's the only documented X-in-guest setup.
1168956557 M * goblin nope, the same
1168956574 J * SiD3WiNDR luser@bastard-operator.from-hell.be
1168956730 J * dna_ ~naucki@81-243-dsl.kielnet.net
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1168957205 M * goblin yeah
1168957209 M * goblin vprocunhide helped
1168957212 M * goblin thanks a lot :-)
1168957420 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p54B4F378.dip.t-dialin.net
1168959283 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1168959288 M * Bertl morning folks!
1168959293 M * daniel_hozac morning!
1168959714 Q * Piet Remote host closed the connection
1168959764 J * Piet hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org
1168960530 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: btw, any issues with the newer sched interfaces, or are they 'perfect'?
1168960633 M * Bertl (btw, just for fun, for those who haven't read it yet: http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.txt)
1168960704 M * daniel_hozac none that i have noticed.
1168960730 M * daniel_hozac i still haven't used vc_get_sched or MSEC though.
1168960806 M * daniel_hozac so really, vc_sched_info seems fine. :)
1168960845 M * Bertl okay, is that going to be exercised in the near future?
1168960865 M * Bertl otherwise I simply remove it from 2.2.x and put it into 2.3.x ...
1168961011 M * daniel_hozac which one? i don't see an immediate need for vc_get_sched, as /proc shows things just fine, but i think it's really good to have for completeness sake.
1168961049 M * Bertl yes, I'm perfectly fine with having them, but do we really want untested interfaces in the second stable release?
1168961072 M * Bertl possibly killing the kernel when excercised the first time :)
1168961117 M * daniel_hozac well, i wouldn't mind making sure they work ;)
1168961148 M * Bertl okay, that's fine for me too, thanks!
1168962447 M * Bertl btw, are we missing any interfaces for a 2.2 release? any 'open issues' for 2.6.19.x?
1168962472 M * daniel_hozac other than the NFS oops? none that i know of.
1168962492 M * Bertl okay, what do we have about that?
1168962569 M * daniel_hozac well, lockd_down using current strikes me as odd.
1168962579 M * Bertl btw, I incorporated the 'fix' from blino, for the ecryptfs (using NULL for the nameidata part of the vfs calls)
1168962593 M * daniel_hozac oh, ecryptfs is mainline?
1168962606 M * Bertl it seems so :) I found it in my kernel tree :)
1168962607 M * blino yes
1168962608 M * daniel_hozac i just assumed that was a mandriva patch.
1168962618 M * daniel_hozac blino: btw, any progress on urpmi?
1168962618 M * blino (hey, why 'fix'? :p)
1168962635 M * daniel_hozac for a fix you'd need to use the correct nameidata ;)
1168962649 M * Bertl yeah, but that is not available at that layer
1168962664 M * Bertl I tried to find a good way, but ecryptfs basically does vfs abuse :)
1168962672 M * daniel_hozac hehe, okay.
1168962682 M * Bertl so the 'fix' means, as I already said, 'as good as it gets'
1168962701 M * Bertl blino: so nothing personal, your patch is the 'best known solution atm' :)
1168962720 M * blino I know, just kidding :)
1168962748 M * Bertl and as I said (on the other channel) please keep feeding back such patches to us ...
1168962751 M * blino daniel_hozac: about urpmi, I'm sorry, I've been really busy on other things, I can't concentrate much on it right now, still on my todo
1168962768 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: i'm somewhat at a loss about the NFS issue. i'm having trouble understanding how it happens.
1168962787 M * Bertl could you provide me with the relevant urls please?
1168962789 M * daniel_hozac blino: how far did you get? could you post what you have?
1168962933 M * blino daniel_hozac: basically, I rediffed and adapted for latest util-vserver
1168962958 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: http://paste.linux-vserver.org/879 are the first two oopses, and some debugging printk's i added.
1168962970 M * Bertl ok, tx
1168963026 M * daniel_hozac the first two lines are the result from adding printk("%p: %s.sighand = %p, .nsproxy.mnt_ns = %p\n", tsk, tsk->comm, tsk->sighand, tsk->nsproxy ? tsk->nsproxy->mnt_ns : NULL); right before exit_task_namespaces in kernel/exit.c:do_exit.
1168963054 M * Bertl okay
1168963062 M * blino daniel_hozac: you can already take this one: http://svn.mandriva.com/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/packages/cooker/util-vserver/current/SOURCES/util-vserver-0.30.212-mandriva.patch?revision=105419&view=markup , it handles the Mandrake -> Mandriva name change (and makes sure mandriva style is used instead of redhat, because we also have /etc/redhat-release), should apply cleanly
1168963066 M * daniel_hozac the third is from adding printk("lockd_down: %p: %s.sighand = %p, mnt_ns = %p\n", current, current ? current->comm : NULL, current ? current->sighand : NULL, current && current->nsproxy ? current->nsproxy->mnt_ns : NULL); right before the spin_lock_irq in fs/lockd/svc.c:lockd_down
1168963126 M * Bertl and what exactly triggered the issue in the first place? an nfs mount inside a guest?
1168963138 M * daniel_hozac it's triggerable on vanilla.
1168963142 M * blino daniel_hozac: the vserver-build urpmi support patch is here: http://svn.mandriva.com/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/packages/cooker/util-vserver/current/SOURCES/vserver-urpmi-mandriva.patch?view=markup
1168963153 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: ah, you already verified that? good!
1168963161 M * daniel_hozac unshare(CLONE_NEWNS); system("mount -t nfs server:/pub /mnt");
1168963173 M * daniel_hozac yeah, i've been working against vanilla for this one.
1168963187 M * daniel_hozac 2.6.19 doesn't have the recursive oopsing though.
1168963190 M * Bertl the namespace goes away, and the nfs thread explodes, is that what happens?
1168963210 M * daniel_hozac that's what i thought.
1168963215 M * Bertl but?
1168963217 M * daniel_hozac but i don't understand my debugging output.
1168963238 M * Bertl have you tried getting a reference in the nfs thread?
1168963250 M * daniel_hozac how would mount.nfs->sighand go from d7602a80 to NULL between those printks?
1168963278 M * Bertl if it is a refcounting issue, that could be 'unused' memory
1168963292 M * Bertl which could just get 'reused' by any allocation
1168963317 M * daniel_hozac getting a reference to what?
1168963328 M * daniel_hozac IMHO the usage of current in lockd_down seems somewhat strange.
1168963373 M * Bertl okay, I'll have a look at it right now and probably a deeper one later tonight ... it still happens with 2.6.20-rc5?
1168963420 M * daniel_hozac i haven't tried that yet.
1168963437 M * Bertl it has at least one page reclaim fix for nfs
1168963553 J * Ramjar ~ramjar@195.159.98.150
1168963693 M * Ramjar Hi all. I use 2.6.18-vs2.1.1-gentoo-r1. when i try to reload/graceful apache more then once apache goes down. no error in apache log or dmsg. i got the same problem on "master" as i got on the "vserver-client"
1168963754 M * Ramjar someone that know why?
1168963788 M * daniel_hozac so the first reload works, but the second one kills apache?
1168963800 M * Ramjar yes
1168963842 J * SolarGloom ~q@host-87-103-183-147.pppoe.omsknet.ru
1168963849 M * SolarGloom hi!
1168963857 M * Bertl welcome Ramjar! SolarGloom!
1168963860 M * Ramjar well. the first reload take apache processes down to 2 from 5. and the second one brings down the whole service
1168963883 M * Ramjar Bertl thnx :) are you a bot or are you always so kind ? :)
1168963885 M * Bertl any messages in the syslog?
1168963899 M * Bertl Ramjar: is that an exclusive or?
1168963929 M * Ramjar no notice in messages or syslog
1168963932 P * SolarGloom 
1168963944 M * Ramjar hehe, i love it :)
1168963980 M * Bertl okay, anything in the apache logs?
1168964000 M * Ramjar nothing that all
1168964031 M * Ramjar third reload gives me (98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address 0.0.0.0:80
1168964044 M * Ramjar no listening sockets available, shutting down, Unable to open logs
1168964057 M * Bertl hmm, that might be a hint
1168964075 M * Bertl I assume you are dealing with several issues here
1168964088 M * Ramjar ohh dont say so :(
1168964095 M * Ramjar like?
1168964095 M * Bertl 1) somehow apache is not able to access its log files
1168964129 M * Bertl 2) something is hammering on the apache (don't know why) and keeps your ports in a close_wait state
1168964147 M * Bertl the first one, prohibits that you get sensitive information
1168964166 M * Bertl the second one keeps the sockets long enough around, so that the apache cannot bind to those ports
1168964196 M * Bertl I would first investigate the logging issue
1168964204 M * Ramjar hmm.. but how can i solve this? i mean. apache writes stuff into error_log
1168964215 M * Bertl probably you need to give certain user permissions to those dirs/files
1168964230 M * Bertl info/warn/error log
1168964234 M * Ramjar the second one: apache is not restarting (so the port should be his) or do i have wrong here?
1168964237 M * Ramjar debug
1168964324 M * Ramjar hmm for some reason, when i run the first reload. apache will run as root..
1168964333 M * Ramjar is't that strange?
1168964341 M * Ramjar should be run as user apache.
1168964434 M * Bertl did you copy the apache installation from somewhere?
1168964434 Q * mountie Quit: LUNCK!
1168964441 M * Bertl maybe by using rsync or tar?
1168964449 M * Ramjar i try the same on "master", and i got the same error as when i run apache on vserver
1168964454 M * Ramjar i try with emerge
1168964461 M * Ramjar and source
1168964473 M * Bertl okay
1168964487 M * Ramjar 3 different version. apache 2.058 - 59 and 2.2
1168964495 M * Ramjar desperate :)
1168964539 J * mountie ~mountie@CPE0080c6fe323f-CM000a739acaa4.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com
1168964539 M * Bertl focus on one of them and reinstall it
1168964543 M * Bertl wb mountie!
1168964573 M * Ramjar will do, should i use any special prefix in ./configure?
1168964607 M * Bertl IMHO the defaults should be fine .. but you might ask a gentoo person
1168964608 M * Ramjar any version of apache you rekomend?
1168964623 M * Bertl I'm with 2.2 for some while now
1168964624 M * Ramjar i see
1168964757 M * Ramjar have you try openvz?
1168964782 M * Bertl I have a look at the code every now and then
1168964792 M * Bertl (always takes a while to recover :)
1168964797 M * Ramjar :)
1168964807 M * Ramjar what do you with about that project?
1168964823 M * Ramjar does openvz work as well like vserver or is it any diffrence?
1168964836 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: MSEC is only for interval, right?
1168964851 M * Bertl Ramjar: it is a very similar approach (OS-Level virtualization)
1168964859 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: yes, not for the tokens
1168964871 M * daniel_hozac right.
1168964876 M * Bertl Ramjar: but there are some quite subtle differences
1168964911 M * Ramjar i see.
1168964919 M * Ramjar how about the stability?
1168964923 M * Bertl one of them is probably the very light-weight character of Linux-VServer vs. the heavy but more VMware like virtualization in OpenVZ
1168964938 M * Ramjar aha
1168964993 M * Ramjar oh daniel_hozac from sweden? :)
1168965003 M * daniel_hozac yes.
1168965005 M * Bertl regarding stability, well, that is something I cannot really judge, the OVZ folks claim that their stable release is 'almost perfect' ... nevertheless the forum sees kernel panics every now and then
1168965050 M * Ramjar hehe i see
1168965056 M * Bertl we know that software is buggy, and always will be, but we spend a lot of time on making our code understandable and thus simple enough to tell it's correct
1168965058 M * Ramjar daniel_hozac jaså där ser man ;) 
1168965079 M * Ramjar Bertl i think thats better :)
1168965167 M * Bertl OVZ focuses more on publicity and advertizements while we focus on coding and support for not-so-typical architectures
1168965197 M * Bertl recently OVZ had a big announcement of their port to Niagara (sparc)
1168965225 M * Bertl we did our port more than a year ago (including the necessary kernel fixes to get Niagara booting :)
1168965269 M * FaUl Bertl: if you have some spare test-box for niagara i'd like to... :-)
1168965321 M * Bertl hehe, unfortunately no, it was on a virtualization event in germany, where one visitor had a remote machine ... so we had to port it within a few hours :)
1168965342 M * Bertl s/visitor/participant/
1168965359 J * depeo ~depeo@89.233.240.56
1168965360 M * waldi FaUl: debian have one for development ...
1168965366 M * Bertl welcome depeo!
1168965383 M * depeo thanks :)
1168965572 Q * DavidS Remote host closed the connection
1168965792 M * tamitall Bertl- One of my not-so-technical friends just installed OpenVZ.  Thanks for the chat about the differences.
1168965850 M * Bertl np
1168965987 M * Bertl you might be able to compare his experience with OVZ with yours with Linux-VServer .. we are always interested in improvements
1168966231 J * UukGoblin ~jaaa@sr-fw1.router.uk.clara.net
1168966261 M * tamitall Well, I'm a system administrator for a living, he's a developer with very little sysadmin experience.
1168966272 M * tamitall I don't think it's a fair comparison sadly.
1168966296 M * tamitall I'm extremely happy with vserver, and suggested it to him.  He couldn't figure it out, and went with OVZ instead.
1168966370 M * Bertl welcome UukGoblin!
1168966384 M * UukGoblin hi Bertl 
1168966385 M * Bertl tamitall: well, would be interesting 'what' he couldn't figure out :)
1168966408 A * UukGoblin has just moved to a new workstation, keeping the old stuff in a separate vserver :-)
1168966419 M * Bertl congrats!
1168966527 M * Bertl okay, I have to leave now ... will be back later ...
1168966535 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
1168966629 M * tamitall Bertl- compiling a kernel. :)
1168966669 M * daniel_hozac so he just chose the wrong distribution, then? :)
1168966855 M * ard Heh...
1168966876 M * ard actually I think vserver is at least much easier than uml and xen
1168966877 M * tamitall He's shockingly inept with *nix.
1168966898 M * ard Since I already used chrooted environments to compile stuff
1168966930 M * ard And vserver is actually a very nice and secure way to chroot :-)
1168966955 A * ard always hated systems that need virtual disks
1168966960 M * ard or virtual anything
1168967370 J * bonbons ~bonbons@83.222.37.103
1168967480 J * sylvio ~XsrX@imk32.mb.uni-magdeburg.de
1168968649 P * depeo Leaving
1168970271 Q * dlezcano Read error: Connection reset by peer
1168970333 Q * cdrx Read error: Connection reset by peer
1168970979 J * duckx ~Duck@tox.dyndns.org
1168971590 Q * SiD3WiNDR Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1168972028 J * SiD3WiNDR luser@bastard-operator.from-hell.be
1168972162 M * daniel_hozac Bertl_oO: http://people.linux-vserver.org/~dhozac/p/k/delta-getsched-feat01.diff
1168972216 M * daniel_hozac Bertl_oO: with that, vc_get_sched seems to work very well, and expose all the information i'd consider relevant.
1168972754 M * daniel_hozac (as well as the msec stuff)
1168974275 M * Radiance is it ok to remove o-rwx on /etc/vservers/vps ?
1168974462 Q * duckx Quit: Client exiting
1168974475 M * Radiance also, i assume i can use /dev/hdv1 within a second vps on the same server as long as i use a different vroot device ?
1168974513 J * Aiken ~james@tooax8-057.dialup.optusnet.com.au
1168974517 J * duckx ~Duck@tox.dyndns.org
1168974527 M * daniel_hozac sure.
1168974771 M * Radiance ok thanks mate
1168975893 Q * sylvio 
1168978298 J * Greek0 ~greek0@85.255.145.201
1168978712 M * Roey hey guys
1168978719 M * Roey how is net-ng coming?
1168978909 J * shedi ~siggi@inferno.lhi.is
1168980377 J * _dmax ~semaj@bl9-224-42.dsl.telepac.pt
1168980456 Q * dmax Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1168980460 N * _dmax dmax
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1168980612 J * s0undt3ch ~s0undt3ch@bl9-224-42.dsl.telepac.pt
1168981809 J * yarihm ~yarihm@84-75-123-221.dclient.hispeed.ch
1168982180 J * dna___ ~naucki@81-243-dsl.kielnet.net
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1168983835 M * matti ;)
1168984052 J * Piet_ hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org
1168984415 Q * Piet Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1168984775 Q * lilalinux Quit: Leaving
1168984825 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1168984828 M * Bertl evening folks!
1168984910 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving
1168984920 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: hmm, what does the COPY_FRI change buy us? I'm fine with the idle time change
1168985454 Q * duckx Remote host closed the connection
1168985766 M * Bertl Roey: net-ng is already there ... :)
1168986544 J * Kokosolo proxy@200.0.25.51
1168986652 J * mire ~mire@181-167-222-85.adsl.verat.net
1168986738 M * Hollow Bertl: i may be repeating myself... but 2.2 is really fast compared to 2.0.x .. i especially notice that while compiling inside .. :)
1168986902 M * Bertl excellent! :)
1168987002 M * hardwire grr.. vservers shouldn't be this hard to explain to somebody that deploys zones
1168987137 P * Kokosolo I'm E powered
1168988760 Q * mire Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1168989417 J * mire ~mire@109-166-222-85.adsl.verat.net
1168990794 M * Hollow Bertl: regarding your ML post .. i'm using xfs ever since .. so, if you need tests, just shoot ;)
1168990820 M * Hollow in fact i have no other filesystem in use on any of my boxes, so actually i can only test xfs ;)
1168990825 M * Bertl okay, sounds good, will start with the DL implementation shortly then ...
1168990868 J * bronson ~bronson@c-24-5-71-119.hsd1.ca.comcast.net
1168991124 Q * dna___ Quit: Verlassend
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1168991453 J * tso ~tso@238-048.adsl.pool.ew.hu
1168991458 M * tso hi
1168991472 M * Bertl welcome tso!
1168991512 M * tso hi Bertl ;)