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1167703130 J * Aiken_ ~james@tooax8-060.dialup.optusnet.com.au
1167703139 J * grant mep@85.195.118.202
1167703194 M * Bertl morning Aiken_!
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1167704569 J * DreamerC ~dreamerc@125-225-99-147.dynamic.hinet.net
1167704763 J * marcfiu ~mef@c-68-39-177-97.hsd1.nj.comcast.net
1167704940 M * Bertl hey marcfiu!
1167704976 Q * FireEgl Remote host closed the connection
1167705134 M * marcfiu Bertl: hello there.
1167705156 M * marcfiu Bertlex == Bertl?
1167705171 M * Bertl hmm?
1167705185 M * marcfiu maybe just my gaim client being confused.
1167705195 M * Bertl probably
1167712162 J * FireEgl Proteus@2001:5c0:84dc:1:211:9ff:feca:b042
1167719311 J * duckx ~Duck@tox.dyndns.org
1167720945 J * depeo depeo@89.233.240.247
1167721017 M * depeo neither of my vservers can mount proc, it says permission denied, on gentoo, why is that? :)
1167721343 M * Bertl proc is mounted from outside (by the tools) and I assume you are using an older layout for the guests
1167721402 M * Bertl i.e. /proc, /tmp and / are already mounted when the guest is started (from the host side)
1167721455 M * depeo so the guest doesnt need mount proc at all?
1167721485 M * Bertl nope, and it shouldn't do so ...
1167721492 J * Aiken__ ~james@tooax6-070.dialup.optusnet.com.au
1167721635 M * depeo i use vetsion: 0.30.211 of util-vserver. is this correct?
1167721653 M * Bertl was superceded by 0.30.212 recently
1167721671 M * Bertl (which should be in gentoo too, but the tools should be fine)
1167721698 M * Bertl (but better ask daniel_hozac or Hollow)
1167721703 M * depeo oh
1167721771 M * depeo ah another question, when i try to start sshd on a guest it says i have no lo? why? 
1167721818 Q * Aiken_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1167721821 M * Bertl probably same problem, i.e. too old gentoo version _inside_ the guest
1167721847 M * depeo ah i suspected that
1167721900 M * Bertl but you might try upgrading the tools (to 0.30.212) and use the gentoo init style for the guest (not sure that will fix it though :)
1167721913 M * depeo i'll try that right now!
1167722348 J * sapiterbang ~sdfsdfsd@209.8.41.213
1167722368 M * Bertl welcome sapiterbang!
1167722459 M * Hollow depeo: please _don't_ use gentoo init style!
1167722478 M * Hollow (unless you really know what you're doing)
1167722491 Q * duckx Remote host closed the connection
1167722569 M * Bertl Hollow: okay, any suggestions for the 'specific' issue? and good morning btw :)
1167722615 M * Hollow not sure i got all issues.. just have a few lines of backlog here ... is it only the proc issue?
1167722674 M * depeo i dont know at all what im doing
1167722741 M * depeo http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/vps/vserver-howto.xml i've been using this guide
1167722741 M * Hollow then use plain init style for now... the new (as in: reimplemented in 0.30.212) gentoo init style is only for alpha baselayout ..
1167722771 M * depeo so i 0.30.211 is the correct one
1167722787 M * Hollow actually there is no gentoo inti style in 0.30.211
1167722796 M * Bertl Hollow: issues are, proc cannot be mounted, and sshd fails because of 'missing lo'
1167722819 M * Hollow did you use a vserver stage3? i.e. does it have baselayout-vserver or baselayout installed inside?
1167722833 M * depeo i used stage3
1167722854 M * Hollow from the experimental/x86/vserver tree?
1167722864 M * Hollow (or amd64)
1167722867 M * depeo x86
1167722893 M * depeo stable
1167722897 M * Hollow can you paste emerge --info
1167722899 M * Hollow from inside
1167722920 M * Hollow to http://paste.linux-vserver.org
1167723358 J * lylix ~eric@dynamic-acs-24-154-34-43.zoominternet.net
1167723386 M * lylix Bertl available?
1167723647 Q * sapiterbang Read error: Connection reset by peer
1167723765 M * Bertl lylix: almost off to bed, but yeah, what's up?
1167723796 M * lylix does vs patchset 2.3.0.3 require util-vserver 0.30.212?
1167723859 M * Bertl I'm not sure it _requires_ it, but for sure it is advised (and the only one we tested so far)
1167723872 M * lylix getting some interesting kernel oops from 2.3.0.3 using 0.30.211 and guests/configs migrated from a 2.1.1 / 0.30.211 system
1167723943 M * lylix also this: vserver monitor enter
1167723943 M * lylix vnamespace: vc_enter_namespace(): Invalid argument
1167723946 M * Bertl that is not okay, but 2.3.0.3 is quite old too
1167723975 M * Bertl (well, for en experimental release :) 2.3.0.6 is up to date)
1167723991 M * lylix k, for production, im guessing 2.1.1 is still recommemded?
1167724016 M * Bertl actually 2.2.0-rc* is recommended there
1167724025 M * Bertl (the upcoming stable branch)
1167724067 M * lylix ahh, ok.  ill see what results from that... shall i paste kernel oops to pastebin?
1167724183 M * Bertl please do so ...
1167724205 M * nox http://linux-vserver.org/index.php?title=ChangeLog-2.2&action=edit  (;
1167724209 M * nox morning all
1167724276 M * lylix http://paste.linux-vserver.org/845
1167724287 M * lylix actually happens w/ vserver-stat command
1167724484 M * depeo Hollow: http://paste.linux-vserver.org/846 
1167724577 M * Hollow depeo: seems like you don't have a portage tree mounted inside? did you uncomment the /usr/portage entries in /etc/vservers/<name>/fstab?
1167724687 M * depeo there aren't any entries there besides tmp, pts and proc 
1167724713 M * Bertl lylix: hmm, it seems you have disabled all debug information completely
1167724713 M * Hollow hm, which util-vserver version are you using?
1167724742 M * depeo 0.30.211
1167724767 M * Bertl lylix: I'm not even able to see where the oops happens .. you would need to convert the [<c016d775>] like addresses to line numbers first ...
1167724775 M * lylix ill see what i can do to enable debugging
1167724794 M * Bertl you can try with ksymoops and addr2line with the existing results
1167724813 M * Bertl (you'll have to extract the actual oops first, i.e. remove the Message from part)
1167724856 M * Hollow depeo: these are the required entries: http://paste.linux-vserver.org/847
1167724863 M * Bertl lylix: is that oops fatal, or do you still have a shell after that?
1167724866 M * lylix not fatal
1167724876 M * Bertl lylix: if so, using dmesg should give you a 'better' output
1167724888 M * lylix and it doe not happen w/ every invocation of vserver-stat... 
1167724891 M * lylix very erratic
1167724915 M * Hollow depeo: you should probably update to 0.30.212 and carefully read http://shurl.org/QoHmj regarding vserver-new being replaced by vserver ... build -m template -- -d gentoo
1167724918 M * Bertl I assume (but I do not know for sure) it is the bug we fixed around 2.3.0.5 or so ...
1167724936 M * lylix here is something relevant from dmesg output:
1167724938 M * lylix <1>BUG: unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address 00000000
1167724972 M * Hollow depeo: the documentation will be updated soon
1167725140 Q * mire Remote host closed the connection
1167725477 M * Hollow depeo: regarding the lo issue, make sure you have RC_NET_STRICT_CHECKING=none in /etc/conf.d/rc inside
1167725565 M * depeo thanks hollow :) 
1167725587 M * depeo i will try to install the correct version. and then try again.
1167726584 M * matti Morning!
1167726586 M * matti :-)
1167726609 Q * _are_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1167727007 M * depeo i have a static ip to the guest and another for the host and when i try to ssh to the guest i get to the host's ssh, internet is working on guest how is that possible?
1167727040 M * depeo i.e ssh localhost on guest takes me to sshd on host
1167727129 M * lylix bind your hosts's sshd to the host IP
1167727158 M * lylix > /etc/ssh/sshd_config on host:
1167727170 M * lylix ListenAddress HOST_IP_ADDRESS
1167727195 M * depeo oh thanks
1167727196 Q * Sebastian|aw Remote host closed the connection
1167727205 M * depeo so i have to bind the address on all services on the host?
1167727228 M * lylix if you have apache, mysql, et. al on the host, yes, you must bind them specifically to the host IP
1167727327 M * Bertl okay, off to bed now .. have a good one everyone!
1167727332 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
1167727448 J * renihs ~penguin@83-65-34-34.arsenal.xdsl-line.inode.at
1167727478 M * depeo is it possible for every guest to have their own loopback?
1167727496 M * Hollow currently not
1167727502 M * depeo ah
1167727504 M * Hollow but you won't need it either
1167727814 M * depeo how do you solve qoutas on the guest?
1167727821 A * phreak`` pokes Hollow 
1167727842 M * depeo i want to hide the hosts total space, is images the only way of solving that?
1167727852 M * Hollow phreak``: !!!
1167727861 M * phreak`` Hollow: y0 :)
1167728381 J * meandtheshell ~markus@85-125-230-155.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at
1167728684 J * _are_ ~are@1und1.lihas.de
1167729468 A * matti waves to Hollow and phreak`` 
1167731517 J * dna ~naucki@p54BCE0BF.dip.t-dialin.net
1167731742 M * doener depeo: per user quotas or just limiting the amount of space available to the guest?
1167731798 Q * _are_ Remote host closed the connection
1167731849 M * doener depeo: the latter is achievable through disk limits. see http://oldwiki.linux-vserver.org/Disk+Limits
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1167731954 J * shedi ~siggi@inferno.lhi.is
1167732453 N * Aiken__ Aiken
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1167732940 J * dreamind apwdsl@p548AB227.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
1167736039 J * yang yang@yang.sponsor.oftc.net
1167737506 Q * depeo 
1167737927 J * w0w ~w0w@200-158-228-165.dsl.telesp.net.br
1167738175 Q * w0w 
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1167738792 J * rob-84x^ ~rob@submarine.ath.cx
1167739089 P * marcfiu 
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1167739381 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p54B4FFF4.dip.t-dialin.net
1167739454 J * Sebastian|aw ~sebastian@office.star-hosting.de
1167739463 N * Sebastian|aw Sebastian
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1167742261 J * lilalinux ~plasma@dslb-084-058-193-048.pools.arcor-ip.net
1167742287 Q * TrueLight Quit: reboot
1167742550 J * dna ~naucki@p54BCE0BF.dip.t-dialin.net
1167742590 J * TrueBrain ~truebrain@145.118.72.134
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1167745005 J * duckx ~Duck@tox.dyndns.org
1167746208 J * SpizAU ~a@c211-28-220-44.sunsh5.vic.optusnet.com.au
1167746209 M * SpizAU hi all
1167746262 M * SpizAU im having trouble with using cfdisk and mke2fs.. I've created two partitions using cfdisk and they are designated as follows /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2 and when I use mke2fs it tries to find /dev/hda1 which doesnt exist
1167746693 M * renihs mkfs.ext3 /dev/sda1
1167747087 M * SpizAU hmm
1167747090 M * SpizAU still doesnt work :(
1167747094 M * SpizAU its still referencing hdac
1167747095 M * SpizAU hdc
1167747753 J * eyck_ ~eyck@nat.nowanet.pl
1167747856 M * meandtheshell renihs: lookup all your partitions again "fdisk -l" maybe you just have a naming issue
1167747971 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p54B4FFF4.dip.t-dialin.net
1167747974 M * renihs meandtheshell, :) i am bnot having the issue
1167748046 M * meandtheshell :) my fault 
1167748052 Q * SpizAU 
1167748072 M * meandtheshell now he's gone ...
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1167749813 M * renihs :p
1167751611 J * k-man ~jason@ppp6-130.lns1.syd7.internode.on.net
1167752601 P * k-man im outa here
1167752807 J * ag- ~ag@caladan.roxor.cx
1167753331 J * Piet hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org
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1167754482 J * lilalinux ~plasma@dslb-084-058-193-048.pools.arcor-ip.net
1167754873 J * stefani ~stefani@tsipoor.banerian.org
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1167757057 J * Piet_ hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org
1167757322 M * [PUPPETS]Gonzo spizau: reboot
1167757328 M * [PUPPETS]Gonzo ah... gone
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1167757574 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl_oO
1167757912 J * bonbons ~bonbons@83.222.37.103
1167758567 J * yarihm ~yarihm@84-75-123-221.dclient.hispeed.ch
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1167761621 J * shedi ~siggi@inferno.lhi.is
1167761878 J * marcfiu ~mef@aegis.CS.Princeton.EDU
1167762018 M * marcfiu Hello, I need to cross compile the Linux Vserver kernel for x86_64 from a x86_32 (i.e., i386) platform.  Any handy suggestions on how to do this? Should I just grab gcc and binutils and build them from source for x86_64?
1167762036 M * marcfiu Or are there some handy RPMs available?
1167762565 M * daniel_hozac i guess you'd need to build them from source.
1167762576 M * eyck_ hmm, I think you need cross-toolkit, try crosstool
1167762615 M * daniel_hozac any reason you don't just build it on a x86_64 host, or are you lacking those?
1167763069 J * morfoh ~morfoh@kilo105.server4you.de
1167763133 J * mnemoc ~amery@kilo105.server4you.de
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1167763680 J * sid3windr luser@195.160.166.163
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1167764583 J * yang yang@sisyphus.ipv6.euroshells.org
1167765238 J * Piet hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org
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1167766721 M * marcfiu daniel_hozac: our nightly build server is a non-x86_64 box.
1167766729 M * marcfiu I've already validated that it builds and works.
1167766738 M * marcfiu Just need to integrate it onto our build server.
1167766859 M * marcfiu eyck_: thanks
1167767082 M * micah i've got a vserver with an interface configured for 204.13.22.166, which is bound to eth0 on the host. The host also has visibility to the network 208.99.202.x, on the same interface, but the vserver cannot communicate with that network, what am I missing here?
1167767128 M * bonbons micah: source-based route?
1167767163 M * micah bonbons: mmm I do not understand
1167767171 M * bonbons or problem with auto-choosing of source address? (this you may test using netcat with an explicit source address)
1167767213 M * bonbons source-base routes are routes that apply only for traffic where both source and destination addresses match
1167767281 M * micah bonbons: well i cannot ping 208.99.202.1 from inside the vserver
1167767284 M * micah bonbons: and I can from the host
1167767292 M * micah bonbons: I need to be able to communicate to that network
1167767349 M * bonbons micah: if you have some service running on host  208.99.202.1, try connecting to it using netcat: netcat -v -s 204.13.22.166 208.99.202.1 <port>
1167767352 M * micah bonbons: without adding an interface to that vserver
1167767386 M * bonbons that without changing your configuration, aim is to first identify where it does not work
1167767417 M * bonbons you may even do the same check (netcat) from the host, just to check that the routes are correct
1167767456 M * bonbons normal connections from the host happen with a source address in the destination subnet, so checking with the other address is useful!
1167767602 M * micah bonbons: so if I do that netcat from the vserver nothing happens
1167767618 M * micah bonbons: from the host, I get the port response
1167767631 M * micah sorry, scratch that
1167767641 M * micah i get the port response from both
1167767651 M * bonbons it should work the same in both cases
1167767664 M * micah it does, I just misread
1167767705 M * bonbons so you can connect but the kernel does not find a matching source address for your guest...
1167767749 M * micah bonbons: ok, so how do I solve this? :)
1167767792 M * bonbons some adjusting to kernel handling would possibly be one solution (the clean on), adding a source-based route might work as well
1167767864 M * bonbons that would be a route like "208.99.202.0/24 src 204.13.22.166 dev eth0" (not sure it will work, but worth a try)
1167767869 M * micah bonbons: a source based route on the host
1167767906 M * bonbons yes, all networking is still on the host
1167767910 M * micah bonbons: if i try to add that, I get RTNETLINK answers: File exists
1167768040 Q * Piet Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1167768059 M * bonbons that looks like bad luck... what kernel are you using?
1167768090 M * micah i need to update the kernel, its only 2.6.14
1167768169 M * bonbons that's old, then you really might have better luck with a newer kernel + vserver patch
1167768336 M * micah yeah, I plan on doing that in a few days
1167768356 M * stefani micah:  i've seen things like that on a few of my boxes
1167768370 M * stefani but i cannot recall what i did to solve.
1167768415 M * bonbons stefani: maybe add an address in the other subnet to the guest or get a fix with a kernel upgrade?
1167768426 M * stefani i did not need a kernel upgrade.
1167768521 M * bonbons then it's possibly playing with routes as source address choosing is done with help of routing information (unless the client app specifically indicates the source address as in my netcat check)
1167768718 J * Piet hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org
1167768951 M * daniel_hozac micah: is it just ping that's not working?
1167769364 M * micah daniel_hozac: no, mail is not getting through also
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1167769653 J * eyck ~eyck@nat.nowanet.pl
1167769780 M * eyck em, is it normal that util-vserver 0.30.211 no longer starts my new-style vservers?
1167769811 M * eyck : invalid option 'secure'
1167770045 M * daniel_hozac hmm? what outputs that?
1167770152 J * Aiken ~james@tooax6-002.dialup.optusnet.com.au
1167770299 M * eyck vserver srv start
1167770314 M * eyck 0.30.211-6
1167770381 M * eyck micah: it seems that util-vserver should build-depend on g++ 
1167770496 M * eyck  chbind-compat doesn't accept '-secure' option, whatever that means...
1167770771 M * daniel_hozac --secure shouldn't be passed on to chbind-compat.
1167770936 M * daniel_hozac i assume you have enabled the legacy version in the kernel?
1167770943 M * eyck 0.30.212, same thing.
1167770948 M * eyck hmm, I'm on 2.4
1167770955 M * daniel_hozac ah.
1167770967 M * daniel_hozac yeah, that'd use chbind-compat as well.
1167771004 M * daniel_hozac oh, i'm a retard.
1167771007 M * daniel_hozac sorry.
1167771035 M * daniel_hozac change CHBIND_COMPAT to CHBIND in /usr/lib*/util-vserver/vserver.start
1167771103 M * eyck yeah, it's better
1167771196 M * eyck now the only problem is that I get some strange 'failed to mount fstab-entry', when the only thing I've got in fstab is /proc /tmp and /dev/pts
1167771220 M * daniel_hozac just failed to mount fstab-entry? no error message?
1167771245 M * eyck secure-mount: mount(): Device or resource busy
1167771281 M * daniel_hozac so probably there was already a mount there.
1167771291 M * eyck oh my, now everything is falling apart
1167771310 M * eyck brb.
1167771398 M * eyck there's some very funky stuff about mounted partitions going on, it looks like it dismounted/hidden stuff I had mounted inside vserver
1167771482 Q * eyck Remote host closed the connection
1167772056 J * eyck ~eyck@nat.nowanet.pl
1167772082 M * eyck much better now, thank you
1167772526 M * eyck now it's only not ignoring 'default' mark for new-style vservers
1167772689 M * daniel_hozac not ignoring? should it ignore it?
1167772704 M * eyck and BACKGROUND=on
1167772712 M * eyck sorry, two sentences merged, 
1167772726 M * eyck it's ignoring 'default' mark for new-style vserver, and it's not starting them
1167772738 M * eyck only old-style vserver were started
1167772752 M * daniel_hozac Debian initscript, i guess?
1167772765 M * eyck yes
1167772778 M * eyck I can see that it's using 'on' in some places, and 'yes' in some other places
1167772781 M * daniel_hozac i guess micah would have to fix that.
1167772889 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving
1167772914 M * eyck huh, and string 'true' in some other places
1167772925 M * eyck something for everyone :) 
1167773683 M * daniel_hozac with vanilla util-vserver, yes is the value that matters.
1167773768 M * micah eyck: can you summarize in a bug report and I will fix it? I am unable to maintain an irc connection here
1167773799 M * daniel_hozac IMHO the initscript should just be rewritten from scratch... it's got a whole lot of problems.
1167773827 M * eyck micah: OK, i'll send the bugreport
1167773899 M * daniel_hozac (or you know, use the vanilla ones. why is it that Debian doesn't use them?)
1167774781 Q * mire Read error: Operation timed out
1167776991 P * marcfiu 
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1167778197 J * johnny ~johnny@ip70-160-117-211.hr.hr.cox.net
1167778292 M * johnny daniel_hozac, you about?
1167778532 M * daniel_hozac yes.
1167778716 J * bronson ~bronson@adsl-75-36-145-166.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net
1167779028 P * stefani I'm Parting (the water)
1167779079 Q * dna Read error: Connection reset by peer
1167779098 J * dna ~naucki@p54BCE0BF.dip.t-dialin.net
1167779357 M * daniel_hozac johnny: why?
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1167780394 J * micah ~micah@micah.riseup.net
1167780514 M * johnny oh.. just wanted to let you know that everything seems so far soo good with 2.2rc5
1167780532 M * johnny and the baselayout 1.13
1167780539 M * johnny altho it's still unreleased
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