1165104018 Q * daniel_hozac Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1165104569 J * daniel_hozac ~daniel@c-2c1472d5.010-230-73746f22.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se
1165104649 J * mrrm ~urkel@allium.gnupg.org
1165104767 J * Vanzetti ~nahuel@lan31-3-82-226-101-235.fbx.proxad.net
1165104770 M * Vanzetti hi
1165104773 M * Vanzetti website is down ?
1165104817 M * daniel_hozac what the...
1165104823 M * Vanzetti ...?
1165104898 M * daniel_hozac i guess the domain transfer "worked".
1165104901 M * daniel_hozac ntrs: ping?
1165104915 M * Vanzetti worked ?
1165104916 M * ntrs yes?
1165104938 M * daniel_hozac ntrs: could you fix the DNS entries?
1165104945 M * ntrs sec...
1165104970 M * Vanzetti thanks
1165105034 M * daniel_hozac in the mean time, linux-vserver.at should be identical to the .org zone.
1165105051 Q * mrrm_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1165105054 M * Vanzetti thanks ! :)
1165105139 M * ntrs daniel_hozac, ok, what DNS servers should I set for the domain?
1165105143 M * Vanzetti what about http://ftp.linux-vserver.at/pub/utils/util-vserver/util-vserver-0.30.211.tar.bz2 ?
1165105157 M * daniel_hozac Vanzetti: what about it?
1165105170 M * Vanzetti i need util-vserver...
1165105179 M * daniel_hozac Vanzetti: and that link doesn't work?
1165105187 M * Vanzetti http://linux-vserver.at/Downloads#util-vserver
1165105187 M * ntrs daniel_hozac, let's fix the DNS first please?
1165105205 M * daniel_hozac ntrs: yes, i'm trying to find it in the logs.
1165105214 M * ntrs Ok, got it, waiting.
1165105249 M * daniel_hozac ns1.13thfloor.at ns1.linux-vserver.at
1165105269 M * daniel_hozac i guess Bertl_oO can provide the complete list he wants at a later time.
1165105331 M * daniel_hozac Vanzetti: ftp://helios.dev.croup.de/ should work fine.
1165105351 M * daniel_hozac (i think ftp://ftp.linux-vserver.at should work as well)
1165105395 M * daniel_hozac Vanzetti: and you might want to consider using 0.30.212-rc2, at least if you have any plans to upgrade to 2.6.19.
1165105449 M * Vanzetti daniel_hozac, ok thanks
1165105561 M * ntrs daniel_hozac, the DNS servers have been updated to the two you provided.
1165105571 M * ntrs the domain is now registered until 2016
1165105571 M * daniel_hozac ntrs: great, thanks!
1165107363 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving
1165109286 Q * DavidS Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1165109596 M * hardwire` woot
1165109603 M * hardwire` I can host a transparent squid proxy inside of a vserver
1165109604 M * hardwire` thats handy
1165111186 N * hardwire` hardwire
1165111339 Q * comfrey Quit: Lost terminal
1165111349 J * comfrey ~comfrey@201.243.176.219
1165113603 J * RichyF ~RIchy@82-32-120-219.cable.ubr04.hawk.blueyonder.co.uk
1165113613 M * RichyF hi guys :)
1165114176 M * hardwire hi
1165114178 M * hardwire hows life
1165114183 M * hardwire beena  while since we talked last
1165114443 M * jpachec cool
1165114457 M * jpachec linus gave the vserver project its own system call?
1165114556 M * hardwire what does that mean for the vserver project?
1165114682 M * daniel_hozac that was, what, two, three years ago?
1165114765 M * hardwire heh
1165114776 M * hardwire yay
1165114784 M * hardwire robot chicken season 1 is on netflix
1165114786 M * hardwire this makes me happy
1165115438 Q * dna___ Quit: Verlassend
1165115917 Q * FireEgl Quit: Leaving..
1165118847 J * FireEgl ~FireEgl@adsl-17-159-214.bhm.bellsouth.net
1165119081 Q * FireEgl 
1165120174 Q * Borg- Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1165120709 J * Johnnie ~jdlewis@jdlewis.org
1165121362 Q * Johnnie Read error: Connection reset by peer
1165121696 Q * RichyF Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.72 :: www.XLhost.de )
1165123262 J * Johnnie ~jdlewis@jdlewis.org
1165124048 Q * Aiken Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1165124462 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1165124503 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: pid namespaces are not implemented yet, and they will give a completely new can'o'worms :)
1165124560 M * Bertl daniel_hozac, ntrs: thanks for the domain fixup, we will adjust the nameservers (and add more) in the next week
1165124592 M * Bertl I'm off to bed now ... had a long day .. cya tomorrow!
1165124599 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
1165125742 J * Aiken ~james@tooax6-244.dialup.optusnet.com.au
1165127195 J * FireEgl ~FireEgl@adsl-17-159-214.bhm.bellsouth.net
1165127378 J * Borg- borg@cube.benet.uu3.net
1165131187 Q * Hollow Remote host closed the connection
1165131249 J * Hollow ~hollow@styx.xnull.de
1165137336 J * DavidS ~david@chello062178045213.16.11.tuwien.teleweb.at
1165138906 J * bonbons ~bonbons@83.222.39.117
1165140245 J * dna ~naucki@77-251-dsl.kielnet.net
1165144158 Q * Aiken Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1165145779 J * elenora hkjhg@port-83-236-50-41.dynamic.qsc.de
1165146496 J * RichyF ~RIchy@82-32-120-219.cable.ubr04.hawk.blueyonder.co.uk
1165146542 M * RichyF hi guys
1165146821 M * daniel_hozac hello
1165146952 A * h01ger is still building the patched kernel. as i'm rebuilding the complete debian package, this takes hours and 1.3gb hd-space is not enough... so i'm rebuilding atm... :) :/
1165147115 M * daniel_hozac hehe.
1165147137 M * daniel_hozac i rebuild the Fedora kernels, so i know exactly what you're talking about ;)
1165147150 M * h01ger :)
1165147178 M * Wonka sometimes, i'd like an easy way to rebuild debian packages...
1165147184 M * Wonka with small changes
1165147239 Q * ensc Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by ensc_))
1165147250 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p54B4D9C6.dip.t-dialin.net
1165147277 M * Wonka why are there no misdn modules for linux-modules-2.6.18-3-vserver-686?
1165147288 M * Wonka or even linux-modules-2.6.18-3-xen-vserver-686?
1165147313 M * Wonka erm
1165147318 M * Wonka s/modules/image/
1165147381 Q * dna lithium.oftc.net cation.oftc.net
1165147381 Q * bonbons lithium.oftc.net cation.oftc.net
1165147381 Q * Rich_Estill lithium.oftc.net cation.oftc.net
1165147381 Q * TheSeer lithium.oftc.net cation.oftc.net
1165147381 Q * kevinp lithium.oftc.net cation.oftc.net
1165147400 J * dna ~naucki@77-251-dsl.kielnet.net
1165147400 J * bonbons ~bonbons@83.222.39.117
1165147400 J * Rich_Estill ~restill@c-24-11-195-139.hsd1.mi.comcast.net
1165147400 J * TheSeer ~theseer@border.office.salesemotion.net
1165147400 J * kevinp ~kevinp@ny.webpipe.net
1165147401 Q * dna Read error: Connection reset by peer
1165147468 J * dna ~naucki@77-251-dsl.kielnet.net
1165148044 J * Serge ~Serge@proxy.dsu.dp.ua
1165148055 M * Serge hi!
1165148074 M * daniel_hozac hello
1165148075 M * Serge What it can a problem?
1165148093 M * Serge Linux r02 2.6.18.3-vs2.0.2.2-rc8 #1 SMP Sat Dec 2 15:39:56 GMT+3 2006                    ott i386 GNU/Linux
1165148116 M * Serge root@r02:~# vserver www start
1165148116 M * Serge Starting the virtual server www
1165148116 M * Serge Error: /proc must be mounted
1165148116 M * Serge   To mount /proc at boot you need an /etc/fstab line like:
1165148116 M * Serge       /proc   /proc   proc    defaults
1165148117 M * Serge   In the meantime, run "mount /proc /proc -t proc"
1165148133 M * Serge What do I do incorrectly?
1165148136 M * Serge ;)?
1165148151 M * Serge slackware linux 11.0
1165148169 M * daniel_hozac what utils are you using?
1165148175 M * Serge 0.30
1165148212 M * daniel_hozac well, umm, why are you using ancient utils with a recent kernel?
1165148221 M * Serge  util-vserver-0.30
1165148234 M * Wonka 0.30.what?
1165148283 M * daniel_hozac try it with 0.30.211 or 0.30.212-rc2 instead.
1165148297 M * Serge url, pls;)
1165148304 M * Serge And what utilities should be used?;)
1165148326 M * Wonka could it be enough to add the mentioned line to the guests /etc/fstab?
1165148360 M * daniel_hozac http://ftp.linux-vserver.org/pub/utils/util-vserver/util-vserver-0.30.211.tar.bz2 or http://people.linux-vserver.org/~dhozac/p/uv/experimental/util-vserver-0.30.212-rc2.tar.bz2
1165148368 M * Serge guest fstab:/dev/hdv1 / ext2 defaults 1 1
1165148368 M * Serge proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
1165148371 M * daniel_hozac Wonka: i don't think the legacy utils have vprocunhide.
1165148388 M * Serge спасибо!;)
1165148390 M * daniel_hozac Wonka: since 2.4 has everything unhidden by default.
1165148392 M * Serge surry
1165148397 M * Wonka 'k...
1165148412 M * daniel_hozac but, what do i know, i've never used them :)
1165148416 M * Serge Thanks!
1165148423 M * Wonka daniel_hozac: i didn't, too
1165149562 J * sebastian ~info@p54A97964.dip.t-dialin.net
1165150912 M * Serge one more problem:
1165150925 M * Serge  vserver www start
1165150925 M * Serge /proc/uptime can not be accessed. Usually, this is caused by
1165150925 M * Serge procfs-security. Please read the FAQ for more details
1165150925 M * Serge http://www.linux-vserver.org/index.php?page=Linux-Vserver+FAQ
1165150938 M * Serge !cat
1165150938 M * Serge cat /proc/uptime
1165150938 M * Serge 920.41 913.15
1165151051 M * Serge What problems with procfs can be?
1165151094 M * Serge Access on reading is
1165151202 M * Serge Under the reference there is no information how to resolve a problem with procfs
1165151519 M * matti daniel_hozac: :)
1165151758 M * Serge help me;)
1165152206 J * wieselTM ~weasel@argos.campus-sbg.at
1165152264 Q * elenora autokilled: on-join spamming.  Mail support@oftc.net if you feel this ban is in error. (2006/12/3 13.24)
1165152299 Q * wieselTM 
1165152395 J * _dmax ~semaj@81.193.60.1
1165152491 Q * dmax Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1165152499 N * _dmax dmax
1165152563 Q * s0undt3ch Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1165153703 M * daniel_hozac Serge: /etc/init.d/vprocunhide start
1165153717 M * Serge ok!
1165153724 M * daniel_hozac Serge: or /usr/local/etc/init.d/vprocunhide start, depending on your ./configure arguments.
1165154070 Q * meandtheshell Quit: Leaving.
1165154222 M * Serge Thanks!
1165154328 M * Serge chbind: kernel does not provide network virtualization
1165154335 M * Serge With what this problem is connected?
1165154628 Q * Medivh Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1165154781 J * Medivh ck@paradise.by.the.dashboardlight.de
1165155086 Q * comfrey Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1165155501 Q * Wonka Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1165155669 J * Wonka produziert@chaos.in-kiel.de
1165155778 M * daniel_hozac Serge: you enabled the legacy version option in the kernel and disabled the legacy API in the utils.
1165156214 M * Serge Thanks!!!! I thought that tomorrow webmaster will simply eat me for a breakfast!;)))
1165157386 J * id23 ~id@p50812E1D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
1165157392 M * id23 hi :)
1165157659 M * daniel_hozac hello
1165160427 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1165160434 M * Bertl morning folks!
1165160537 M * waldi good morning Bertl 
1165160565 M * daniel_hozac morning Bertl!
1165160595 M * waldi Bertl: what do you mean with "because mainline changed in regard of virtualization in back then 'unexpected' ways"?
1165160626 Q * virtuoso Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1165160703 M * daniel_hozac 2.6.19's clone flags are rather different from what we had previously.
1165160777 M * waldi ups
1165160825 M * daniel_hozac the uts and IPC namespaces were implied by a context, rather than something that had to be done separately.
1165160957 M * Hollow daniel_hozac: btw, you got sysop in the wiki
1165160981 M * daniel_hozac oh, cool, thanks.
1165160983 J * virtuoso ~s0t0na@shisha.spb.ru
1165160998 M * Hollow do you want to get a mail on every change?
1165161013 M * daniel_hozac well, there's an RSS-feed somewhere, right?
1165161028 M * Hollow yep, we use rss2email now, to send one mail per edit
1165161046 M * daniel_hozac i could just use the RSS-feed directly, what's the URL?
1165161065 M * Hollow http://linux-vserver.org/index.php?title=Special:Recentchanges&feed=rss
1165161071 M * daniel_hozac ok, thanks.
1165161194 M * Bertl waldi: we will try to 'mimic' existing behaviour to some extend, but it will take a little to stabilize
1165161235 M * Bertl *extent
1165161341 J * _Medivh ck@paradise.by.the.dashboardlight.de
1165161341 Q * Medivh Read error: Connection reset by peer
1165161413 M * Bertl Hollow: what I'm missing in the wiki mails, is the login name (I think you need to be logged in to change something now, no?)
1165161462 M * Hollow no
1165161545 M * Hollow but yeah, i'm missing that too
1165161553 M * Hollow maybe we can add that to the rss file
1165161577 M * Bertl would be great! a nice thing would be to have a diff on delete too
1165161617 M * Bertl so that you do not have to go hunting for previous 'related' changes
1165161683 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: so did you try a fix to the proc issues yet?
1165162670 Q * kevinp Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1165162974 M * daniel_hozac well, i haven't quite figured out what the issues are.
1165163031 M * daniel_hozac the "no processes shows up unless fakeinit is used" is quite obvious, as proc_pid_readdir tries to look up real pid 1. but as to why /proc/1 still isn't accessible, i have no idea.
1165163551 Q * _Medivh Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1165163757 M * id23 hi Bertl  :)
1165163849 M * Bertl hey id23! LTNS!
1165163933 M * id23 no time - too many concurrent projects ongoing
1165163953 M * id23 and i will leave germany on 8th december for 1 month -> indonesia
1165163970 J * kevinp ~kevinp@ny.webpipe.net
1165163971 M * id23 www.thinkenergy.de
1165164124 J * Medivh ck@paradise.by.the.dashboardlight.de
1165164193 M * Bertl wb kevinp! Medivh!
1165164210 M * Medivh hi Bertl ;)
1165165282 M * Bertl okay, leaving now .. will be back later ...
1165165286 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
1165165366 Q * id23 Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1165165667 J * Mediv507 ck@paradise.by.the.dashboardlight.de
1165165893 J * id23 ~id@p508110BD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
1165165907 Q * Medivh Read error: Connection reset by peer
1165168165 M * ensc Bertl_oO: just got http://paste.linux-vserver.org/726 with vs2.0.2.2-rc8
1165168767 M * daniel_hozac were you doing anything out of the ordinary?
1165168799 M * daniel_hozac what does addr2line give for the first 3 entries in the call trace?
1165168908 M * ensc I stopped a vserver; I am not sure whether related but I got timeouts while shutdown and processes were killed with vkill
1165168928 M * ensc I do not have a debuggable kernel
1165169625 J * Piet hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org
1165170510 J * ricola ~ricola@89.129.172.204
1165170621 M * ricola hi
1165170623 M * ricola i would like my vservers to share the swap space of the host machine
1165170651 M * ricola so i added something like /dev/mapper/hda1_crypt none swap sw 0 0
1165170656 M * ricola to their fstab
1165170664 M * ricola but it doesn't seem to work
1165170764 M * ricola do i have something special to do for them to share their swap
1165170769 M * ricola if so what ?
1165171243 M * daniel_hozac well, they share swap by default.
1165171258 M * daniel_hozac just like they share RAM, and every other hardware resource.
1165171279 M * jpachec heeey
1165171282 M * jpachec crypted fs?
1165171292 M * ricola ok ok
1165171295 M * ricola sorry sorry
1165171341 M * ricola my swap was actually not activated in the host machine
1165171386 M * ricola i was messed up by the encryption bla bla
1165171402 M * ricola everything is fine now
1165171403 M * ricola thanks
1165171429 M * jpachec how did you encrypt the fs?
1165171443 M * jpachec or that partition i sould say
1165171459 M * jpachec should*
1165172649 J * s0undt3ch ~s0undt3ch@81.193.60.1
1165172683 Q * s0undt3ch 
1165172686 J * s0undt3ch ~s0undt3ch@81.193.60.1
1165173119 Q * matti Quit: 8-X
1165173159 Q * Vanzetti Remote host closed the connection
1165174036 Q * FireEgl Quit: Leaving..
1165174168 Q * sebastian 
1165175566 Q * id23 Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1165175915 J * comfrey ~comfrey@201.243.176.219
1165176144 M * hardwire jpachec: still there?
1165178392 M * jpachec hola
1165178411 M * hardwire there are tons of ways to encrypt filesystems
1165178423 M * hardwire none of them relate to vserver.. nor does vserver relate to them.
1165178451 M * hardwire however you can set up ancrypted LVM partitions/cryptoloop block devices and even use fuses encfs
1165178454 M * jpachec i know, it was just a question of curiosity
1165178460 M * hardwire anc/enc
1165178466 M * hardwire anyways.. encfs is quick and dirty.. 
1165178489 M * hardwire it will encrypt all files individually and store them on the filesystem 
1165178515 M * jpachec what is the best method?
1165178518 M * hardwire this means you can encrypt /var/lib/vservers/(instance) the directory.  however you may not want to concidering you need to enter a password to mount it
1165178522 M * hardwire there is no best method
1165178529 M * hardwire there is only a method that works best for you
1165178557 M * hardwire but I would use either lvm + encryption/cryptoloop/fuse+encfs
1165178576 M * hardwire encfs is available via debian and works without having to modify how your system is partitions
1165178578 M * hardwire partitioned
1165178625 M * hardwire each method to be secure needs an authentified user to mount it
1165178636 M * hardwire otherwise somebody could just leave with the machine and boot it up.. and its like its not encrypted
1165178844 M * hardwire even the filenames are encrypted using encfs
1165178867 M * hardwire crypt/a
1165178867 M * hardwire .crypt/.encfs5
1165178867 M * hardwire .crypt/UpcHcGkfHUzvd0cC37doGHIY
1165178876 M * hardwire I mounted encrypted directory .crypt on directory crypt
1165178879 M * hardwire and made a file called a
1165178889 M * hardwire it showed up in .crypt totally encrypted
1165178928 M * jpachec sweet
1165178959 M * hardwire so you can back it up just like any other directory.. which is nice as well.
1165178963 J * Aiken ~james@tooax6-119.dialup.optusnet.com.au
1165178972 M * hardwire however you can sorta fudge yourself over since its not at all a standard encrypted block device
1165178979 M * hardwire which will always have a bit more support in the world
1165178984 M * hardwire but this is a you thing
1165178988 M * hardwire thats sorta how encryption works
1165179023 M * hardwire it may fail for vserver however
1165179051 M * hardwire since it can only store files owned by the person who mounted it
1165179087 M * hardwire cryptoloop is fun as well.. 
1165179096 M * daniel_hozac dm-crypt <3
1165179102 M * hardwire go here.  http://deb.riseup.net/storage/encryption/
1165179110 M * hardwire dm-crypt and loop-aes are fun
1165179122 M * hardwire both can work on loopback devices
1165179177 M * hardwire if you use dm-crypt you inherently gain the ability to use an encryption accelerator
1165179179 M * hardwire which is neat
1165179193 M * hardwire esp on via padlock systems
1165179213 M * hardwire http://deb.riseup.net/storage/encryption/dmcrypt/#encrypted_loopback
1165179234 M * hardwire i love this site btw
1165179281 M * hardwire bbl.. xmas shopping
1165179420 Q * comfrey Quit: Lost terminal
1165179728 J * comfrey ~comfrey@201.243.176.219
1165180208 Q * Smutje Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1165180528 J * Smutje ~Smutje@xdsl-87-78-98-134.netcologne.de
1165181470 Q * dna Quit: Verlassend
1165182356 Q * comfrey Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1165182430 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving
1165183386 J * yarihm ~yarihm@84-75-123-221.dclient.hispeed.ch
1165183396 Q * Smutje Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1165183570 M * ntrs Anyone here?
1165183607 M * daniel_hozac sure.
1165183667 J * Smutje ~Smutje@xdsl-87-78-98-134.netcologne.de
1165183764 M * ntrs daniel_hozac, netstat -anlp inside a guest shows all connections on all IPs on the hosts, even ones not belonging to that context.
1165183778 M * ntrs this is with 2.6.18.3 with 2.1.1.3
1165184051 Q * daniel_hozac Read error: Operation timed out
1165184654 J * daniel_hozac ~daniel@c-2c1472d5.010-230-73746f22.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se
1165184937 M * daniel_hozac ntrs: 2.1.1.3? i must've missed that release?
1165185009 M * ntrs daniel_hozac, no you did not miss it. It is not released yet.
1165185017 M * daniel_hozac hehe, ok.
1165185033 M * daniel_hozac so is there an interdiff somewhere? :)
1165185131 M * ntrs I have no idea.
1165185141 M * ntrs You'd have to ask Bertl_oO about that
1165185195 Q * Piet Read error: Connection reset by peer
1165185258 J * Piet hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org
1165185862 M * daniel_hozac ntrs: established connections, right?
1165185870 M * ntrs yes
1165185875 M * daniel_hozac yeah, i see that too.
1165185884 M * daniel_hozac (on 2.6.18.3-vs2.1.1.2.3.ipv6
1165185885 M * ntrs that should not be happening, right?
1165185892 M * daniel_hozac indeed.
1165185904 M * ntrs Ok, Bertl_oO deffinitely needs to know about this
1165185957 M * daniel_hozac you wouldn't happen to know which /proc/net file is used for this? :)
1165186065 M * doener ntrs: does it work with ss as well?
1165186073 M * ntrs ss?
1165186080 M * ntrs what is ss>
1165186081 M * ntrs ?
1165186084 M * doener iproute's replacement for netstat
1165186139 M * ntrs doener, yes it shows with ss too.
1165186192 M * doener seems like a more general bug then, ss uses iproute while netstat uses foo (no idea ;)
1165186212 M * daniel_hozac netlink and /proc-parsing, no?
1165186230 M * doener ehrm, yeah netlink not iproute... d'oh
1165186247 M * Aiken whether it was coincidence or but after trying 2.6.19-vs2.1.x-t1 the partition where my guests live is totaled :(
1165186256 M * doener and yup, it's parsing /proc/neT/tcp
1165188483 M * Bertl_oO back after a shower ...