1164326524 J * brc_ ~bruce@20151211153.user.veloxzone.com.br
1164326587 Q * fs Server closed connection
1164326600 J * fs fs@213.178.77.98
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1164326903 J * m4z m4z@bastard-operator.from-hell.net
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1164328584 M * adrien It's strange, the guest server always get the same hostname as the host server
1164328665 M * DavidS adrien: you can set uts/nodename
1164328825 M * adrien thank you
1164328848 M * adrien do you know where I can find a documentation regarding all the util-vservers configuration files
1164328917 J * vagrantc ~vagrant@71-210-211-27.albq.qwest.net
1164329097 M * DavidS adrien: serach for the "great flower page"
1164329102 M * DavidS *search even
1164329174 M * adrien found it
1164329178 M * adrien thanks
1164329220 Q * oo Server closed connection
1164329240 J * oo oo@ormset.no
1164329568 M * ntrs daniel_hozac, what is broken?
1164330128 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1164330135 M * Bertl back now ...
1164330143 M * Bertl ntrs: hmm?
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1164330370 J * cohan ~cohan@koniczek.de
1164330870 A * micah eyes vagrantc 
1164330910 A * vagrantc returns the gaze
1164330919 M * micah daniel_hozac: you are right, thanks
1164331278 Q * Piet Remote host closed the connection
1164331302 M * micah daniel_hozac: it maybe shouldn't say "Please read the FAQ" if its not actually the FAQ
1164331425 J * Piet hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org
1164331515 M * ntrs Bertl, daniel_hozac said that 2.1.1.1 is broken but did not say what exactly was broken and what was the impact.
1164331632 M * derjohn ntrs, I had problems when starting contexts ..
1164331642 M * derjohn it had to do with the hash..bla...fix
1164331674 M * derjohn (i think it was about the order the contexts where hashed)
1164331674 M * Bertl ntrs: yes, we did a basically harmless change in 2.1.1.1, but it backfired
1164331694 M * Bertl well, actually it triggered a bug which existed for a long time
1164331700 M * ntrs Bertl, so 2.1.1 and 2.1.1.2 are fine?
1164331705 M * derjohn 2.1.1.2 ?
1164331715 M * derjohn oh ... I gonna have to compile ;)
1164331718 M * Bertl - 2.1.1 is buggy, but the bug is hard to trigger
1164331725 M * Bertl - 2.1.1.2 is fine
1164331745 M * Bertl derjohn: did you try the one you are building since yesterday?
1164331757 M * derjohn Bertl, no pro, derjohn will probably one of the poor thralls what triggerd it ;)
1164331761 M * derjohn not yes 
1164331764 M * derjohn *yet
1164331764 M * Bertl derjohn: because _that_ would really help verifying 2.1.1.2 :)
1164331787 M * derjohn you wont believe it ... i think the boxens hardware is broken...
1164331794 M * ntrs Bertl, what is the scope of the bug?
1164331819 M * Bertl it's completely harmless, except for the fact that it crashes the kernel
1164331829 M * Bertl what happens is this: 
1164331860 M * derjohn maybe you remember i had booting problems whem testing rc45 or 46 ... that wasnt a kernel bug. the tyan machine is broken, I wont boot from the sata disks any ... blinking cursor, keyboard light freezed
1164331868 M * Bertl - when a context creation fails, for whatever reason, the resulting context structure is passed to 'unhash()' without ever being hashed
1164331899 M * Bertl - as we have a bunch of checks in the code (BUG_ON()) to catch such cases, the one in unhash() triggers
1164331915 M * ntrs Bertl, ok, so it happens only if context creation fails. good to know that
1164331926 M * Bertl this didn't show up before, as that is _very_ seldom
1164331950 M * Bertl but, the 2.1.1.1 caused a different function (migrate) to always return an error
1164331970 M * Bertl so the create() started failing, causing the BUG_ON()
1164331993 M * Bertl s/causing/triggering/
1164332270 Q * trash Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1164332275 J * trash ~trash@databerlin.org
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1164333097 J * doener ~doener@host.magicwars.de
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1164333610 J * ntrs ~ntrs@68-188-55-120.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com
1164334137 J * Aiken_ ~james@tooax7-026.dialup.optusnet.com.au
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1164335083 J * harry ~harry@d54C2508C.access.telenet.be
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1164335558 J * matti matti@linux.gentoo.pl
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1164335813 M * derjohn daniel_hozac, i use a cifs mount (not smbfs) in fstab.remote which fails, becuase its umountable. I cant even do so handish. do i have to change context first? But the context is alreaqdy stopped.
1164336538 M * Bertl derjohn: hmm?
1164336662 M * derjohn well, umount.cifs fails and claims the mount is not cifs.
1164336702 M * derjohn umount -v says: optind 2 unmount dir /var/lib/vservers/ctx..../mymount
1164336709 M * Bertl what was the context stopped part?
1164336737 M * derjohn not so funny: /var/lib/vservers/ctx is a lvm mount that goes in read-only mode after verver stop.
1164336788 M * derjohn I cannot mount it again, as /var/lib/vservers/ctx..../mymount "occupies" the mount "/var/lib/vservers/ctx BUSY".
1164336821 M * derjohn no, that was when I tried to umount it after the context was stopped.
1164336835 M * derjohn the context wasnt able to unmount the cifs stuff
1164336851 M * Bertl hmm, maybe missing permissions or so?
1164336866 M * Bertl cifs is not really supported as Linux-VServer filesystem
1164336912 M * Bertl would working around it with the start/stop scripts help?
1164336929 M * derjohn hm, good idea yes.
1164336940 M * Bertl (now that we have the initialize call :)
1164336982 M * derjohn with smbfs it works fine
1164336995 M * derjohn but as I need symlinks, i need cifs
1164337003 M * Bertl i.c.
1164337032 M * derjohn and I told you that NFS doesnt work at all in my setup ... so there is not much choice
1164337120 M * adrien I found somethin very unsecure
1164337126 M * adrien *something
1164337126 M * Bertl we should investigate your nfs issues ...
1164337138 M * matti Bertl: You mean scripts?
1164337141 M * derjohn where do I put the  start/stop scripts ?
1164337152 M * Bertl derjohn: check the flowerpage
1164337161 M * Bertl adrien: let's hear
1164337162 M * derjohn ah ... k. 
1164337165 M * adrien if someone start a guest with sshd 
1164337180 M * Bertl sshd inside the guest?
1164337183 M * adrien and doesn't setup the listen into ssdconfig
1164337190 M * adrien it will listen to the host ip too
1164337203 M * Bertl I don't think so ...
1164337216 M * adrien maybe my setup is wrong 
1164337224 M * adrien but when I ssh to my host, the guest reply
1164337228 M * Bertl maybe, let's take a look at it ...
1164337230 M * adrien on the same ip
1164337257 M * adrien so someone on a guest
1164337258 M * Bertl try: cat /proc/virtnet/<nid>/status
1164337272 M * Bertl (upload the output to paste.linux-vserver.org)
1164337317 M * adrien done
1164337331 M * adrien so if a guest listen to the host ip
1164337337 M * adrien a spy can be installed in the guest
1164337343 M * adrien to snap the password
1164337362 M * adrien of the host
1164337373 M * Bertl well, when the guest is 'configured' to use the host ip, then yes
1164337389 M * adrien oo
1164337397 M * Bertl (aside from the fact that the passwd is not transmitted in cleartext)
1164337414 M * adrien yes but a hacked version of ssh
1164337418 J * bronson ~bronson@c-24-16-67-28.hsd1.wa.comcast.net
1164337419 M * adrien can read the password
1164337428 M * Bertl nope
1164337459 M * Bertl I'd also need the /proc/virtnet/<nid>/info entry
1164337490 M * Bertl but I assume we already identified your issue, which seems to be the 'sharing' of the host ip
1164337511 M * adrien ok I see
1164337522 M * adrien oh could I remove that ?
1164337540 M * Bertl sure, to make that secure, you simply assign a separate ip to the guest
1164337557 M * adrien that's what I did
1164337568 M * adrien both and guest have two differents ips
1164337578 M * adrien *host
1164337585 M * Bertl okay, then let's see the 'info' file :)
1164337607 M * Bertl that's the guest ip shown there?
1164337620 M * adrien yes
1164337636 M * Bertl and you sshd to a different one?
1164337640 M * Bertl *ssh
1164337643 M * adrien yes
1164337650 M * Bertl and still you end up in the guest?
1164337653 M * adrien yes
1164337661 M * Bertl that's a bug, if true ...
1164337676 M * adrien so what I did to fix this
1164337676 M * Bertl what kernel/patch version do you use?
1164337688 M * adrien 2.6.18.1-vs2.0.2.2-rc4
1164337709 M * adrien I edited the listen in the guest to only listen to the 242 ip
1164337734 M * Bertl yeah, but that is not a fix, a potential attacker would be able to change that too
1164337739 M * adrien yep
1164337756 M * Bertl let's see if I can recreate it here ... give me a moment
1164337997 M * Bertl nope, works here as expected (with 2.0.2.2-rc8)
1164338013 M * Bertl my test setup is like this:
1164338013 Q * besonen Server closed connection
1164338043 J * besonen ~besonen@dsl-db.pacinfo.com
1164338071 M * Bertl http://paste.linux-vserver.org/694
1164338088 M * matti Ehn...
1164338124 M * Bertl ah, here that might be important too:
1164338125 M * Bertl Server listening on 0.0.0.0 port 22.
1164338135 M * adrien the host ?
1164338153 M * Bertl that's the message from the sshd, binding to ADDR_ANY
1164338178 M * adrien I don't understand why is the bind done on the guest ?
1164338179 M * matti Night.
1164338180 M * matti ;]
1164338183 M * adrien *chbind
1164338210 M * Bertl ah, sorry for the confusion
1164338225 M * Bertl GUEST actually means QEMU virtual machine
1164338239 M * Bertl so that is the HOST for your setup :)
1164338248 M * Bertl while HOST is a remote machine ...
1164338253 M * adrien ok
1164338257 M * adrien I understand
1164338275 M * adrien does the command vserver * build does the chbind automatically
1164338282 M * Bertl but please, double check with rc8, it might be that we missed something in rc2
1164338285 M * Bertl *rc4
1164338294 M * adrien because I've created this host with by copying it
1164338300 M * adrien ok
1164338303 M * Bertl yes, when you get the virtnet entry, you have a chbind
1164338330 M * Bertl in your case, it is the 64.15.151.242 ip
1164338353 M * Bertl so an sshd inside that chbind, will be limited to that specific ip
1164338360 M * Bertl (even when it binds to *)
1164338371 M * adrien ok I see
1164338420 M * adrien thank you for your help
1164338436 M * derjohn n8 Bertl 
1164338445 Q * SNy Server closed connection
1164338470 J * SNy e5eb818559@bmx-chemnitz.de
1164338552 M * Bertl adrien: please let me know if it changes for you with rc8
1164338588 M * Bertl in which case we have an issue in rc4 which was fixed, but I don't remember anything in this area, so I'd ask you to double check your setup and config
1164338595 M * Bertl things like the following:
1164338611 M * Bertl - is the sshd really in the guest? (vps/vtop)
1164338628 M * Bertl - is the beforementioned nid entry the right one?
1164338636 M * adrien yes
1164338647 M * Bertl - maybe some S/DNAT maps the host ip to the guest one?
1164338647 M * adrien yes
1164338662 M * Bertl also, switch to static contexts, as it is easier to debug
1164338673 M * adrien ok
1164338687 M * adrien what I did is this
1164338690 Q * bronson Quit: Ex-Chat
1164338698 M * adrien created an host with vserver build
1164338707 M * Bertl s/host/guest/
1164338711 M * adrien assigned ip X to this host
1164338715 M * Bertl s/host/guest/
1164338719 M * adrien yes
1164338722 M * adrien tired
1164338724 M * Bertl np
1164338731 M * adrien then I copied
1164338744 M * adrien the whole /vserver/guest1 to /veserver/guest2
1164338758 M * adrien and the same for /etc/vserver/guest1 to /etc/vserver/guest2
1164338771 M * adrien then edited the ip and hostname in /etc/vserver/guest2
1164338773 M * Bertl okay, that will cause some difficile issues
1164338775 M * adrien and started the servver
1164338788 M * adrien I can't do that
1164338789 M * adrien ?
1164338796 M * Bertl the /etc/vservers/* contain symlinks, you might want to 'adjust' them
1164338801 M * adrien I did
1164338803 M * Bertl okay
1164338819 M * adrien but I didn't run chbind on the guest2 ip
1164338869 M * adrien If my understanding is right, it chbind is run by vserver * build ?
1164338915 M * Bertl yes, if you adjusted the interfaces config too
1164338927 M * Bertl then the guest will be 'configured' with the proper ip
1164338957 M * adrien yes I ajusted the interfaces /0
1164338976 M * adrien so I'll try the same setup with rc8
1164338987 M * adrien and we'll see if it makes a difference
1164338991 M * Bertl okay
1164342549 Q * mnemoc Server closed connection
1164342580 J * mnemoc ~amery@85.25.10.130
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1164344149 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p54B4D223.dip.t-dialin.net
1164346712 M * daniel_hozac micah: does it have to be _the_ FAQ? can't it be a FAQ that just happens to have its own page?
1164346719 M * daniel_hozac :)
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1164347851 J * tokkee tokkee@casella.verplant.org
1164347880 J * meandtheshell ~markus@85-124-36-116.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at
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1164350262 J * Johnnie ~jdlewis@jdlewis.org
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1164352047 J * mugwump_ ~samv@watts.utsl.gen.nz
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1164352279 J * Wonka produziert@chaos.in-kiel.de
1164353317 J * fluor_ ~fluor@89.129.137.222
1164353540 J * DavidS ~david@chello062178045213.16.11.tuwien.teleweb.at
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1164356806 J * Torsti76 ~irc@gate.iwm-kmrc.de
1164356901 J * dna_ ~naucki@19-211-dsl.kielnet.net
1164357156 Q * Torsti76 Quit: Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/
1164357170 J * Torsti76 ~irc@gate.iwm-kmrc.de
1164357197 Q * Torsti76 
1164357209 J * Torsti76 tkurbad@gate.iwm-kmrc.de
1164360414 M * Bertl okay, off to bed now ... have a good one everyone! cya!
1164360420 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
1164361591 J * TheSeer ~theseer@border.office.salesemotion.net
1164361605 M * TheSeer morning :)
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1164361989 J * prae ~Benjamin@host.187.57.23.62.rev.coltfrance.com
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1164363687 J * Piet hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org
1164363950 J * Aiken ~james@tooax6-240.dialup.optusnet.com.au
1164364165 J * sannes ace@har.sagt.no
1164365009 J * Piet_ hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org
1164365340 M * sannes hm, I'm trying start  a vserver, and everything seems to work, except that it repeatidly kills all the processes and starts the vserver again .. (it is only one vserver doing this, so I there is something wrong with the guest) .. my question is, back in the days I seem to recall that I got output from the bootup process of a guest when starting it.. but I don't seem to get this anymore, any ideas how I can get this back? (if it is possible at all)
1164365430 Q * Piet Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1164367271 M * brcc how doy ou know the proccess are being killed? any particularmessage ?
1164367942 M * sannes brcc : well, if I enter the server within I can see that it is starting all the processes (as it should) and then when it seems to finish it is shut down again.. I just wish I could see what was going on ..
1164369087 J * lilalinux ~plasma@dslb-084-058-216-177.pools.arcor-ip.net
1164370284 J * Vudu 816a3cd90d@perverz.hu
1164370285 Q * Vudumen Read error: Connection reset by peer
1164370930 M * trippeh sannes: Wrong default runlevel?
1164371945 M * sannes trippeh: could be, altough it would be strange if it started all the services and then killed them afterwards .. my guess is that init exits .. but, anyways, I want the output, but I'm not getting it .. is it still possible ..
1164371956 J * sebastian ~info@pD957CFFC.dip.t-dialin.net
1164372419 M * brcc back
1164372429 M * brcc which linux distirbutions are you trying ? (guest)
1164372442 M * brcc if you type vserver vserver_name start what do you get ?
1164372584 Q * Piet_ Remote host closed the connection
1164372674 J * Night-Fire ~davidb@112.103.dsl.syd.iprimus.net.au
1164372714 M * Night-Fire hi all, i just installed a vserver on my debian system and it was missing alot of packages including one for the hostname
1164372720 J * Piet_ hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org
1164372731 M * Night-Fire i cant seem to edit the hostname
1164372737 M * Night-Fire do i need bind for it?
1164373054 J * mire ~mire@218-167-222-85.adsl.verat.net
1164373456 Q * sebastian 
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1164373470 J * sebastian ~info@pD957CFFC.dip.t-dialin.net
1164373648 M * sannes brcc: ah, its an old gentoo install, did an upgrade of the utils to something.211 and it seems it doesn't have the gentoo style init anymore .. now this is the only guest I used that for so no biggie, .. but what I really want to know is how to get at the output from the init scripts ..
1164374230 M * brcc I am at work right now but i have at home what needs to be changed on gentoo to make it work
1164374671 Q * sebastian 
1164374690 Q * Night-Fire Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1164374792 J * Night-Fire ~davidb@211.26.187.178
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1164375111 J * s0undt3ch ~s0undt3ch@bl4-59-87.dsl.telepac.pt
1164375604 Q * s0undt3ch Read error: Connection reset by peer
1164375864 J * s0undt3ch ~s0undt3ch@bl4-59-122.dsl.telepac.pt
1164376666 M * daniel_hozac sannes: with util-vserver from trunk, i think the gentoo initstyle should work again.
1164377184 Q * s0undt3ch Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1164377267 M * daniel_hozac (i'm not sure though, that could be for baselayout 1.13-alpha* only)
1164377479 M * daniel_hozac Night-Fire: why don't you install that package? but it should also be changable in /etc/vservers/<guest>/uts/nodename.
1164377887 P * Torsti76 
1164378058 J * Torsti76 tkurbad@gate.iwm-kmrc.de
1164378217 J * sebastian ~info@pD957CFFC.dip.t-dialin.net
1164378960 M * daniel_hozac (hmm, with the amount of "util-vserver from trunk" comments i've been giving lately, i probably should release a new version...)
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1164379195 J * Piet_ hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org
1164379236 J * djrise ~djrise2b@194.3.30.212
1164379254 M * djrise hello everyone
1164379733 J * s0undt3ch ~s0undt3ch@bl4-62-236.dsl.telepac.pt
1164379981 J * DavidS ~david@diode.black.co.at
1164380029 M * daniel_hozac hi djrise.
1164380941 Q * djrise Remote host closed the connection
1164381192 M * lilalinux can somebody recommend a good notebook? max 2500,- Euro
1164381211 M * lilalinux linux compatibility would be nice, too ;)
1164381281 M * trash IBM/Lenovo T60
1164381470 Q * Carpenter Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1164381481 M * lilalinux forgot to mention, that 15.4" resp. 1600x1050 is a must
1164381547 M * trash sure
1164381563 M * trash I guess you can live with 15".
1164381567 M * trash and SXGA.
1164381585 M * lilalinux widescreen would be nice
1164381590 M * trash hmm
1164381613 M * trash then perhaps some HP notebooks...
1164381705 M * daniel_hozac i just committed a vserver ... build -m rsync, if anyone's interested.
1164382505 M * oo hm, I am interested. 
1164382529 M * doener lilalinux: ThinkPad Z series are widescreen
1164382650 M * doener lilalinux: models with 1600x1050 start at around EUR 1400 
1164382838 M * TheSeer oh.. 
1164382844 A * TheSeer read rsync
1164382845 M * TheSeer ;)
1164382861 M * TheSeer can i use that to copy a vserver from one physical box to another? ;)
1164383098 M * daniel_hozac sure.
1164383296 M * daniel_hozac something like vserver ... build -m rsync ... -- --source <host>:/vservers/... -o -Hazx -o --numeric-ids -o -e -o ssh should do it, i think.
1164383358 M * TheSeer okaaay.. gonna try that later tonite then ;)
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1164384509 J * fluor ~fluor@89.129.137.222
1164384533 J * doener ~doener@host.magicwars.de
1164384551 P * Torsti76 
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1164386937 M * nox ln -0s <- does this need a patched ln?
1164387810 Q * prae Quit: Quitte
1164388208 M * daniel_hozac it should say ln -s, i'm quite sure.
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1164389115 J * nox ~nox@static.88-198-17-175.clients.your-server.de
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1164395532 J * Carpenter ~gt-blacks@p5086F950.dip.t-dialin.net
1164396446 M * nox daniel_hozac: derjohn wrote "ln -0s" uses a Vserver extention to create a unified link. in http://linux-vserver.org/Frequently_Asked_Questions#What_is_vhashify.3F
1164396459 M * nox so i was confused
1164396502 M * harry the power of hitting 2 buttons close to eachother ;)
1164396630 M * nox well at least not on german or english keyboards don?t know how it is on dvorak
1164396661 M * nox and without 0 the sentence makes no sense
1164396684 M * harry yes it does
1164396689 M * harry ln -s is: symbolic link
1164396711 M * harry ln -0s makes no sens
1164396711 M * harry e
1164396744 M * nox and what about the "uses a Vserver extention to create a unified link"?
1164396783 M * harry noooooo idea... /me gotta go now btw
1164396786 M * harry cya l8r
1164396794 M * nox hf
1164396836 M * harry tnx
1164397007 Q * transacid Quit: Lost terminal
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1164397365 M * daniel_hozac since when does unification make sense for symlinks?
1164397383 J * Night-Fire ~davidb@251.034.dsl.brs.iprimus.net.au
1164397399 M * daniel_hozac and even so, that's about setting up the unification, not to actually unify files.
1164397473 M * nox ok so far my daily fool for a minute (;
1164397487 M * daniel_hozac well, no, the wiki does say that and has said it for a while.
1164397496 J * transacid ~transacid@transacid.de
1164397833 Q * lilalinux Remote host closed the connection
1164398424 M * micah daniel_hozac: i'm fixing various things in the util-vserver package to do another upload, are there things that you think I should include (this one might also make it into the release)
1164398536 M * daniel_hozac i'd like to get 0.30.212 released soon, but i want to test it some more... how much time do we have?
1164398590 M * daniel_hozac 0.30.212 has some rather handy things, like network flags/caps, naddress, vserver 2.1 support, new scheduler configuration (for the 2.1 scheduler)...
1164398622 M * daniel_hozac will also be required to work on 2.6.19.
1164398700 M * daniel_hozac of course, i'd really appreciate other people testing trunk as well so it doesn't just work for me :)
1164398881 M * daniel_hozac and i guess vserver ... build -m rsync is something people have been wanting for a while.
1164401397 Q * micah Remote host closed the connection
1164401470 J * micah ~micah@208.99.202.72
1164401813 Q * adrien 
1164402798 J * FireEgl FireEgl@Sebastian.Atlantica.US
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1164404574 Q * meandtheshell Quit: Leaving.
1164405227 J * Aiken ~james@tooax7-202.dialup.optusnet.com.au
1164406246 M * nox which digest does vhashify use?
1164406549 M * daniel_hozac sha1, IIRC.
1164406882 M * nox couldn?t find file with md5 sh1 sha224 sha256 assuming the dirs are the beginning of the hash
1164406890 M * nox sha1
1164407138 J * Night-Fire ~davidb@251.034.dsl.brs.iprimus.net.au
1164407166 M * doener nox: probably because they take only content into consideration
1164407189 M * doener nox: I expect vhashify to also consider permissions and owners
1164407196 M * daniel_hozac indeed.
1164407369 M * nox and all with link count = 1 will be removed automatically?
1164407374 Q * Night-Fire 
1164407553 M * daniel_hozac no.
1164407561 M * daniel_hozac you'll need a pruning cron job.
1164407672 M * nox but different vserver would share the same libs then and they will be loaded to ram only once?
1164407714 M * daniel_hozac once you've restarted them and loaded from the new files, yes.
1164407803 M * doener prior to restarting you will probably see increased disk usage and with certain usage patterns even increased memory usage is possible (some programs still running with the old lib, some already using the new one)
1164407889 M * nox oic thx!
1164407922 M * nox well yes permission and owner change result in not beeing unified like expected
1164407974 M * daniel_hozac so a devel kernel then :)
1164408024 M * nox is there an easier way for the "removescript" then doing a stat on every file?
1164408061 M * nox yes 2.6.18.3-vs2.1.1.2
1164408081 M * daniel_hozac find /vservers/.hash -links 1 -print0 | xargs -0 rm -f is what i'm using.
1164408135 M * nox ah didn?t find find in my mind (;
1164408171 M * daniel_hozac http://people.linux-vserver.org/~dhozac/p/uv/experimental/util-vserver-0.30.212-rc1.tar.bz2
1164408217 M * Hollow awesome :)
1164408312 M * nox weren?t there problems with link counting in former (2.0 kernels)? 
1164408314 M * daniel_hozac http://people.linux-vserver.org/~dhozac/p/uv/experimental/delta-0.30.211-0.30.212-rc1.diff for those who want to find the bugs i introduced ;)
1164408332 M * daniel_hozac nox: hmm?
1164408388 M * nox well will soon c if they would still exist (;
1164408515 M * Hollow daniel_hozac: is the sync stuff needed for ncontext?
1164408551 M * daniel_hozac not that i know of, but i figured it might as well stick around in case it is.
1164408561 M * daniel_hozac (at some point)
1164408569 M * Hollow ok
1164409359 M * nox funny linkspread even with only 3 hashifed servern right know
1164409578 M * nox omg now 
1164409619 M * nox time 4 bed thx for help and elaboration
1164409644 M * daniel_hozac np, and good night!
1164410108 M * daniel_hozac Hollow: i'd really appreciate it if you could put 0.30.212-rc1 in the overlay, hopefully it'd get some testing then :)
1164410137 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1164410142 M * Bertl morning folks!
1164410146 M * daniel_hozac morning Bertl!
1164410151 M * Hollow daniel_hozac: yep, already on my todo :)
1164410159 M * daniel_hozac thanks.
1164410168 Q * sebastian 
1164410294 M * Bertl I think I have something to test for the rss/anon stuff
1164410314 M * Bertl will prepare a patch and upload shortly
1164410388 M * Bertl we didn't hear anything from the folks interested in per context quota recently, did we?
1164410744 M * micah daniel_hozac: its hard to say how much time we have... i'll try to get a ballpark idea
1164410781 M * micah vserver .. build -m rsync? what is the purpose of that?
1164410942 M * daniel_hozac build a guest by rsyncing from somewhere.
1164410954 M * daniel_hozac can be used for cloning.
1164410998 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: i got the impression crypt is working on some extensions to testfs?
1164411014 M * Bertl ah, that would be a good sign ...
1164411182 M * Hollow Bertl: apropos... i plan to include a test suite with libvserver to replace (at least) testme.sh ..
1164411236 M * Bertl sounds good
1164411288 M * Hollow any news regarding the hard sched?
1164411302 M * Bertl works perfectly fine here ...
1164411378 M * Hollow strange .. will test again with vanilla + vserver, just to make sure the gentoo patchset does not introduce any bugs
1164411388 M * Bertl that'd be nice
1164411401 M * Bertl this way we can easily rule out userspace issues
1164411553 J * DavidS ~david@chello062178045213.16.11.tuwien.teleweb.at
1164411733 M * Bertl wb DavidS!
1164411869 Q * FireEgl Quit: Bye...
1164412132 M * daniel_hozac i can reproduce it here.
1164412132 Q * Johnnie Read error: Connection reset by peer
1164412174 M * DavidS Bertl!
1164412280 J * Johnnie ~jdlewis@jdlewis.org
1164412303 J * dmax ~semaj@81.193.62.236
1164412313 M * Bertl welcome dmax!