1163981294 Q * Wonka Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1163982023 J * soatola ~soatola42@82.153.18.114
1163982091 J * Wonka produziert@chaos.in-kiel.de
1163982380 M * Wonka i really want to know what's wrong here...
1163982412 M * daniel_hozac ?
1163982432 M * Wonka does anyone know any reason why a vserver host would completely lock up at several seconds (varying from about 5 to about 75) after 00:00 UTC?
1163982444 M * Wonka without any message on the serial console?
1163982472 M * daniel_hozac nothing running at all?
1163982484 M * Wonka several clients
1163982488 M * Wonka er
1163982492 M * Wonka several vserver guests
1163982527 M * daniel_hozac well, i mean at the time of the lockup.
1163982529 M * Wonka also a cron job, but that's an hourly one (0 * * * *)
1163982559 M * daniel_hozac there has to be something that triggers it, have you tried running all of your cronjobs manually?
1163982561 M * Wonka i see nothing special about the time point, but being shortly after 00:00 UTC
1163982590 M * Wonka vmlinuz-2.6.17.8-vs2.0.2-rc29 didn't do it.
1163982611 M * daniel_hozac and now you're running... 2.6.18*?
1163982618 M * Wonka vmlinuz-2.6.18.2-vs2.1.1, vmlinuz-2.6.18.2-vs2.0.2.2-rc6, vmlinuz-2.6.17.14-vs2.0.2.1 do
1163982670 M * daniel_hozac hmm, even 2.0.2.1?
1163982678 M * daniel_hozac you sure you didn't change anything else between those?
1163982698 M * Wonka no, copied the .config and made "make oldconfig"
1163982718 M * daniel_hozac i meant in the userspace area, i.e. add a new guest or so.
1163982752 M * Wonka some new guests, yes, but up to 2006-11-04 or so it all worked fine
1163982810 M * Wonka then vmlinuz-2.6.17.8-vs2.0.2-rc29 had some ext3 filesystem corruption, i did an fsck, and booted a new kernel while i was at it
1163982845 M * Wonka now i'm running vmlinuz-2.6.18.2-vs2.1.1 with some more debug stuff activated
1163982879 M * Wonka CONFIG_VSERVER_DEBUG=y, much CONFIG_DEBUG_*=Y
1163982892 M * Wonka and i'm logging the serial console
1163982899 M * daniel_hozac can you use magic sysrq when it's locked up?
1163982913 M * Wonka don't know, am not there
1163982933 M * Wonka i reset it via a remote switch
1163983024 M * daniel_hozac in what way does it lock up? it stops responding to...?
1163983030 M * daniel_hozac does it ever come back?
1163983046 M * Wonka it stops responding to everything
1163983067 M * Wonka not even the serial console
1163983078 M * Wonka no echo there
1163983103 M * Wonka first time it hung, it hung for several hours
1163983144 M * Wonka maybe the locking debugging stuff will say something the next time...
1163983193 M * daniel_hozac but it did come back, or did you reset it?
1163983200 M * Wonka i did reset it.
1163983204 M * daniel_hozac ok.
1163983227 M * Wonka it didn't react to alt-sysrq-{u,s,b} then
1163983237 M * Wonka so i powercycled it
1163983246 M * Wonka the reset button is wired to the remote switch
1163983262 M * daniel_hozac right.
1163983406 M * Wonka and now, i gotta go to sleep... cya
1163983501 M * daniel_hozac good night!
1163983991 M * Bertl could be a very unfortunate script messing with proc entries
1163984009 M * Bertl like actually triggering a magic-sysrq there, for example
1163985263 J * s0undt3ch ~s0undt3ch@81.193.56.124
1163987327 J * Aiken ~james@tooax6-063.dialup.optusnet.com.au
1163992437 J * s0undt3ch_ ~s0undt3ch@bl4-56-40.dsl.telepac.pt
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1163992921 J * DreamerC ~dreamerc@61-224-135-21.dynamic.hinet.net
1163993122 M * samueltc .
1163994582 M * Bertl !
1163995871 J * DntooHUsR ~hollow@styx.xnull.de
1163995933 J * s0undt3ch_ ~s0undt3ch@bl4-56-90.dsl.telepac.pt
1163996014 J * _Radiance 315a8e68b7@halt.1984world.eu
1163996028 Q * Radiance charon.oftc.net neutron.oftc.net
1163996028 Q * yang charon.oftc.net neutron.oftc.net
1163996028 Q * besonen charon.oftc.net neutron.oftc.net
1163996028 Q * trash charon.oftc.net neutron.oftc.net
1163996028 Q * Hunger charon.oftc.net neutron.oftc.net
1163996028 Q * _mountie charon.oftc.net neutron.oftc.net
1163996028 Q * Hollow charon.oftc.net neutron.oftc.net
1163996028 Q * click charon.oftc.net neutron.oftc.net
1163996028 Q * blizz charon.oftc.net neutron.oftc.net
1163996028 Q * bj charon.oftc.net neutron.oftc.net
1163996028 Q * goblin charon.oftc.net neutron.oftc.net
1163996028 Q * fosco charon.oftc.net neutron.oftc.net
1163996028 Q * SNy charon.oftc.net neutron.oftc.net
1163996028 Q * bogus charon.oftc.net neutron.oftc.net
1163996028 Q * kaner charon.oftc.net neutron.oftc.net
1163996050 N * DntooHUsR Hollow
1163996081 J * goblin ~jaaa@sr-fw1.router.uk.clara.net
1163996087 J * Hunger Hunger.hu@Hunger.hu
1163996087 J * bogus ~bogusano@fengor.net
1163996094 J * SNy 2da4f8aa69@bmx-chemnitz.de
1163996099 J * click click@ti511110a080-0541.bb.online.no
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1163996362 N * s0undt3ch_ s0undt3ch
1163996363 J * bj ~bj@insanefactory.com
1163996366 J * blizz ~blizz@evilhackerdu.de
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1163996465 J * besonen ~besonen@dsl-db.pacinfo.com
1163996662 J * kaner kaner@strace.org
1163996895 J * weasel weasel@asteria.debian.or.at
1163997531 J * fosco fosco@konoha.devnullteam.org
1163997531 J * trash ~trash@databerlin.org
1163997531 J * _mountie ~mountie@trb229.travel-net.com
1163997531 J * yang yang@2a01:b0:1114::19:2
1164000442 Q * Skram Remote host closed the connection
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1164000766 J * Skram ~mark@HERCULES.sentiensystems.net
1164004177 J * shedi ~siggi@ip-66-80-73-139.iad.megapath.net
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1164005720 J * Aiken_ ~james@tooax8-181.dialup.optusnet.com.au
1164006006 Q * duckx Remote host closed the connection
1164006015 J * duckx ~Duck@tox.dyndns.org
1164006047 Q * Aiken Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1164007197 Q * renihs Read error: Connection reset by peer
1164007249 J * renihs ~penguin@83-65-34-34.arsenal.xdsl-line.inode.at
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1164008809 J * shedi ~siggi@ip-66-80-73-139.iad.megapath.net
1164009268 J * dna_ ~naucki@49-244-dsl.kielnet.net
1164009563 J * DavidS ~david@chello062178045213.16.11.tuwien.teleweb.at
1164009739 J * s3r1y ~root@195.16.59.130
1164009746 M * s3r1y hi pidar`s
1164009883 Q * s3r1y 
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1164010185 J * shedi ~siggi@ip-66-80-73-139.iad.megapath.net
1164010979 Q * renihs Read error: Connection reset by peer
1164011081 J * Skram ~mark@HERCULES.sentiensystems.net
1164011180 J * Torsti76 ~irc@gate.iwm-kmrc.de
1164011203 P * Torsti76 
1164011263 Q * dna_ Quit: Verlassend
1164011391 J * borgfish ~bla@141.12.9.118
1164011392 M * borgfish moin
1164011401 J * renihs ~penguin@83-65-34-34.arsenal.xdsl-line.inode.at
1164011775 M * Bertl okay, off to be now ... have a good one everyone! cya!
1164011782 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
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1164012478 J * shedi ~siggi@ip-66-80-73-139.iad.megapath.net
1164012853 J * prae ~Benjamin@host.187.57.23.62.rev.coltfrance.com
1164013319 Q * renihs Read error: Connection reset by peer
1164013518 J * ocavid ~ocavid@58.71.32.69
1164013565 M * ocavid has anyone have an ISO with vserver installed?
1164013839 Q * shedi Ping timeout: 480 seconds
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1164016602 J * lilalinux ~plasma@dslb-084-058-205-191.pools.arcor-ip.net
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1164019706 J * ||Cobra|| ~cob@pc-csa01.science.uva.nl
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1164020660 J * Aiken ~james@tooax8-181.dialup.optusnet.com.au
1164020675 Q * Aiken 
1164020689 J * Aiken ~james@tooax8-181.dialup.optusnet.com.au
1164021578 J * s0undt3ch ~s0undt3ch@bl4-58-208.dsl.telepac.pt
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1164022031 J * dna_ ~naucki@215-231-dsl.kielnet.net
1164022291 J * renihs ~penguin@83-65-34-34.arsenal.xdsl-line.inode.at
1164022768 J * Shahri| ~DjDOLLS@60.51.50.165
1164022804 M * Shahri| alop
1164023093 Q * Shahri| Read error: Connection reset by peer
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1164024036 J * mire ~mire@189-167-222-85.adsl.verat.net
1164024215 J * Heinzwurst ~i@dsl46-193.pool.bitel.net
1164024227 M * Heinzwurst Hi!
1164024234 J * renihs ~penguin@83-65-34-34.arsenal.xdsl-line.inode.at
1164024272 M * Heinzwurst how can I join a vserver when I don't get ist started .... like earlier: vserver test enter?
1164024417 M * m4z it works but i think its discouraged
1164024428 M * m4z whats "ist"?
1164024450 M * Heinzwurst oh .. sorry ... ist = is
1164024468 M * Heinzwurst or ... uhhh .... here I meant "it"
1164024470 M * daniel_hozac you can't start it, but you want to enter it anyway?
1164024514 M * Heinzwurst jep .... with vserver1 you simply count enter a vserver and start any process and the vserver exists ... (because one process runs under its ctx)
1164024560 M * daniel_hozac and why can't you just start it?
1164024560 M * Heinzwurst now i have a vserver2 where no process starts up, because the system crashes and the guest-system thinks that all processes are already running
1164024602 M * Heinzwurst so no process gets started in the guest-ctx ... and the vserver doesen't come up ...
1164024632 M * Heinzwurst I solved it now with chrooting into the vserver and zapping (gentoo) some services .... now I could start it up
1164024653 M * daniel_hozac hmm, Gentoo should require a plain initstyle.
1164024657 M * Heinzwurst but Berltl once told me, that there is a way to "enter" a unstarted vserver
1164024700 M * Heinzwurst yep, i have plain style ... but the processes have an existing run-file that says that the service is already running, so they don't start up
1164024710 M * daniel_hozac but init should keep running.
1164024716 M * Borg- Heinzwurst: yes.. you can do chroot /path/to/vserver
1164024984 M * Heinzwurst "init" didn't keep running .....
1164025007 M * Heinzwurst because there is no child-process of init, it stops itself
1164025617 M * daniel_hozac that sounds strange.
1164025812 M * Heinzwurst ok, but with chroot I have a workaround I can live with ..... but the vserver x enter without started vserver was very helpful and easier ...
1164026194 M * daniel_hozac in theory, vserver x start --rescue /bin/bash should work, but it seems that's not true...
1164026338 M * daniel_hozac you'd have to remove /etc/vservers/x/apps/init/style temporarily to get it to work.
1164026346 M * daniel_hozac (i'll be fixing that for 0.30.212)
1164026810 M * daniel_hozac http://svn.linux-vserver.org/projects/util-vserver/changeset/2386 if you want to test it yourself.
1164027357 J * transacid ~transacid@transacid.de
1164027820 Q * transacid Quit: noma restart
1164028242 J * transacid ~transacid@transacid.de
1164028615 J * chand ~chand@c80-216-65-76.bredband.comhem.se
1164028715 Q * chand 
1164028730 J * chand ~chand@c80-216-65-76.bredband.comhem.se
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1164029405 J * oling ~n@sasu1.gestaltung.uni-weimar.de
1164029572 Q * Frosty Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1164029592 J * Frosty ~frosty@p54BD68A9.dip.t-dialin.net
1164029618 M * oling hello! is there a way to give a vserver exclusive access to a pci card (like pciback in xen)?
1164029698 M * oling i would like to run cups inside a vserver
1164029740 M * daniel_hozac no, but copying the device nodes into the guest should work.
1164029927 M * oling ah okay
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1164035955 J * ||Cobra|| ~cob@pc-csa01.science.uva.nl
1164037045 Q * shedi Quit: Leaving
1164037458 M * derjohn hi, vserver start fails suddenly. vlogin: tcsetattr(): I/O error and  wait4(6984, chroot-shopen("/etc/mtab"): I/O error ...
1164037471 M * derjohn any idea what could be the cause ??
1164037502 M * derjohn a different context on the same machine runs (i currently dont dare to restart)
1164037516 M * daniel_hozac well, you're using old utils for a start :)
1164037537 M * derjohn possbile ... it 's utils bug ?
1164037554 M * daniel_hozac nah, i don't think so. anything in dmesg?
1164037574 M * derjohn [8098858.369479] Filesystem "dm-1": Corruption of in-memory data detected.  Shutting down filesystem: dm-1 and [8099087.315929] vxW: xid=1 did hit the barrier
1164037581 M * derjohn hm *whine*
1164037582 M * daniel_hozac ;)
1164037852 M * [PUPPETS]Gonzo uah
1164037876 J * sebastian ~info@p54A9783E.dip.t-dialin.net
1164038312 J * jabra ~jabra@70.90.101.105
1164038356 M * jabra has anyone setup a vserver on ubuntu dapper ?
1164038377 M * [PUPPETS]Gonzo dabber as host?
1164038420 M * jabra trying to setup vserver on ubuntu dapper and i haven't found any good documentation 
1164038443 M * jabra wondering if anyone has had any luck or problems with setting up vserver
1164038766 J * matti_ matti@linux.gentoo.pl
1164038768 N * Bertl_zZ Bert
1164038773 M * Bert morning folks!
1164038794 M * Bert jabra: IIRC, there should be packages for that
1164038816 M * jabra um 
1164038817 M * Bert jabra: i.e. they were 'ported' from debian
1164038834 M * jabra i only see edgy and debian
1164038842 M * Bert jabra: but even manually, it's quite simple
1164038852 M * Bert jabra: basically three steps:
1164038872 M * Bert - get a vanilla kernel running on your system (with .config)
1164038892 M * Bert - apply the vserver patch, recompile and install (like vanilla)
1164038910 M * Bert - build and install util-vserver (with dietlibc)
1164038937 Q * matti Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1164038937 N * matti_ matti
1164038938 M * Bert that's it, after that you can already start with creating a guest or just playing around
1164038952 M * jabra ok
1164038964 Q * kaner Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1164038973 M * jabra so there is no package for dapper ?
1164038995 M * jabra well other than util-vserver
1164039028 M * Bert jabra: I thought there is, but if you say there isn't ..  you're probably right, I'm no ubuntu guy
1164039035 M * jabra i'm guess i would need to patch the kernel with every time there is a kernel update
1164039046 M * jabra i don't see a kernel in dapper 
1164039117 M * jabra wondering if the patch would work with 2.6.15
1164039121 M * Bert Linux-VServer is in sarge (although an older version IIRC), so I wonder why the ubuntu folks are behind ...
1164039145 M * jabra well probably occured after edgy was released so it is probably in edgy
1164039145 M * daniel_hozac Bert: no l today?
1164039146 M * Bert anyway, recompiling a new kernel on a kernel/Linux-VServer update is not much work
1164039165 M * jabra i perfer to use dapper as it has long term support
1164039191 M * jabra guess i will give it a shot and see how it goes
1164039195 M * jabra thanks Bert 
1164039206 N * Bert Bertl
1164039218 A * Bertl gets some coffee :)
1164039258 M * Bertl jabra: np
1164039270 M * jabra i'll let u know how it goes
1164039282 M * Bertl okay, feel free to hang around though
1164039310 M * jabra i will probably be here for a while
1164039728 M * derjohn jabra, i have an rc29 kernel for dapper. But thats pretty old.
1164039733 M * derjohn (linux-vserver.derjohn.de
1164039734 M * derjohn )
1164039788 M * daniel_hozac derjohn: are you using the 64 IP addresses patches?
1164039861 M * derjohn no, the 256 ip patch usually ;)
1164039879 M * daniel_hozac ah.
1164039892 M * daniel_hozac could you try util-vserver from trunk and see if you still need to patch anything?
1164039941 M * derjohn daniel_hozac, do I need to patch it? or does ist recognize the 256 stuff automagically ?
1164039953 M * daniel_hozac it doesn't have a limit.
1164039958 M * daniel_hozac or well, shouldn't.
1164039973 M * daniel_hozac so unless the kernel tells it otherwise, it'll be happy to add 256 IP addresses.
1164039992 M * jabra hmm patching 2.6.15 didn't work 
1164040037 M * daniel_hozac jabra: what did you patch it with?
1164040061 M * jabra following the docs from http://deb.riseup.net/vserver/preparing/#get_the_kernel_source
1164040069 M * jabra make-kpkg --rootcmd fakeroot --revision custom01 --added-patches vserver --append-to-version +vserver --initrd binary-arch
1164040093 M * derjohn daniel_hozac, well, I still wonder why the util had that limit ;)
1164040125 M * daniel_hozac derjohn: because that's what the vc_set_ipv4root API looks like.
1164040182 M * daniel_hozac jabra: try http://wiki.linux-vserver.org/Installation_on_Linux_2.6 instead.
1164040220 M * jabra willdo
1164040317 Q * sebastian Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1164040435 M * jabra packgages.ubuntu.com is down. anyone know if the vserver package is offically accepted in edgy
1164040467 M * jabra i perfer to use package management rather than compiling everything from scratch if possible
1164040480 M * daniel_hozac might want to consider another distribution then ;)
1164040491 M * jabra that is why  i'm asking about edgy
1164040500 M * jabra since it is newer than dapper
1164040501 M * daniel_hozac i meant more along the lines of Debian.
1164040516 M * jabra right
1164040526 J * stefani ~stefani@tsipoor.banerian.org
1164040576 J * sebastian ~info@p54A974D4.dip.t-dialin.net
1164040581 M * jabra so there is a offical debian kernel with vserver ?
1164040590 M * daniel_hozac yes.
1164040609 M * daniel_hozac in etch and sid, at least.
1164040622 M * derjohn ack. they are good in shape!
1164041037 M * Bertl welcome stefani! hey sebastian!
1164041055 M * stefani hola
1164042055 M * jabra ok so going to try edgy later today
1164042747 J * hmeyer ~hmeyer@p54BDB221.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
1164042760 M * hmeyer Hello..
1164042845 J * bonbons ~bonbons@83.222.39.117
1164043220 J * nox ~nox@static.88-198-17-175.clients.your-server.de
1164043667 M * hmeyer Hi...when starting my vservers they always complain about /dev/console...whats wrong there?
1164043912 M * vasko hi, i am giving a try to 2.1.1 release, i've just copied a guest from 2.0.2-rc28 where it works ok. it starts up without error, but just after issuing enter command vserver returns permission denied error: vnamespace: vc_enter_namespace(): Permission denied
1164043928 M * vasko you have any idea?
1164043929 J * renihs|wr ~penguin@83.65.34.34
1164043945 M * bonbons vasko: that's the 'new' privacy of guests, there is some cflag for it
1164043995 Q * renihs Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1164043998 M * vasko i've suspected this, so i am just recompiling without it, but i had a feeling from the info it should not case this
1164044047 M * Bertl well, there should be no need to recompile, actually
1164044062 M * bonbons no need to recompile, just se the right flags in the guest's config, should be lock or private in /etc/vservers/$myvps/flags
1164044067 M * vasko rereading it and i see now that ptys are also mentioned :)
1164044094 M * Bertl which 2.1.1 release do you test? what tools do you use?
1164044129 M * Bertl hmeyer: what kind of complains do you get? what does 'ls -la /dev/console' say inside a guest?
1164044140 M * vasko patch-2.6.18.2-vs2.1.1.diff.bz2, util-vserver: 0.30.210; Jun 22 2006
1164044151 J * chand ~chand@c80-217-67-241.bredband.comhem.se
1164044164 M * Bertl vasko: okay, would not hurt to update to 0.30.211 too
1164044170 M * Bertl welcome chand!
1164044216 M * chand hey bertl :)
1164044217 M * chand thx
1164044222 M * chand how's it going ?
1164044234 M * Bertl fine tx, and you?
1164044257 M * harry wiiiiii... the openpty problem is not grsec related, /me is freeeeeeeeeeee ;)
1164044280 A * harry pets self
1164044298 M * vasko bonbons: i've cleared lock from flags and it works as expected, thanks
1164044376 M * vasko Bertl: i'll try.
1164044522 M * chand i'm fine
1164044527 M * chand on vacation in stockholm
1164044544 M * chand well not really vacation, i came to fix some business i had here
1164044565 Q * renihs|wr Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1164044573 M * oo chand: woman-trouble? :)
1164044926 M * chand heh :)
1164044937 M * chand ah well yeah there was that but it was a long time ago
1164044937 Q * prae Quit: Quitte
1164044950 M * chand they're so hot here, there's bound to be trouble :)
1164045230 M * hmeyer Bertl: ls: /dev/console: No such file or directory
1164045235 M * hmeyer Bertl: /etc/rc3.d/S10sysklogd: 84: cannot open /dev/console: No such file
1164045411 J * renihs|wr ~penguin@83-65-34-34.arsenal.xdsl-line.inode.at
1164045625 J * bronson ~bronson@66.160.177.209
1164045647 Q * Heinzwurst Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1164045850 J * kaner kaner@strace.org
1164045932 M * waldi Bertl: is /dev/console special cased for vserver?
1164045936 M * daniel_hozac no.
1164045951 M * daniel_hozac which is why it's not in the default set of devices.
1164046037 J * lilalinux ~plasma@dslb-084-058-205-191.pools.arcor-ip.net
1164046540 J * samueltc ~samuel@udp115186uds.hawaiiantel.net
1164046696 J * Osgiliath ~osgiliath@kurzweil.no-ip.org
1164046942 J * crypt ice@p54A3BE8A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
1164046944 M * crypt Hi all
1164047001 M * samueltc hi crypt 
1164047015 M * crypt hi samueltc 
1164047130 M * crypt Bertl, today i searched the irc logs for quota on shared partitions but the onliest things i found, was about kernel 2.4 and that it doesn't work with 2.6 :D, and i didn't found any things getting me closer to an install instruction
1164047242 M * Bertl hmeyer: so I'd suggest to add /dev/console as a copy of /dev/tty
1164047267 M * Bertl waldi: nope, typically you use /dev/tty or /dev/null to make runlevel scripts happy
1164047286 M * Bertl crypt: hmm, and you're sure you searched thoroghly
1164047384 M * crypt i think so, because after searching for quota per context  doesn' give me much results and after searching for quota there were ~130 results, saying not much
1164047397 M * Bertl okay, let me double check that .. sec
1164047451 M * hmeyer Bertl: how do I copy /dev/tty - seems that cp /dev/tty /dev/console doesn't work....just symlinking?
1164047459 M * crypt i found out how to test the quota :D but at the current state this doesn't help me ;)
1164047474 M * crypt hmeyer, would be better
1164047528 M * hmeyer ok...this works
1164047935 M * daniel_hozac crypt: IIRC brc was the one who got furthest with the testing.
1164047939 M * Bertl crypt: http://irc.13thfloor.at/LOG/2006-08/LOG_2006-08-09.txt
1164047955 M * Bertl time index 1155155073
1164048034 M * crypt ok thanks
1164048057 M * Bertl http://irc.13thfloor.at/LOG/2005-07/LOG_2005-07-14.txt
1164048071 M * Bertl time index 1121344767
1164048092 M * hmeyer hmm..still unclear...when I do "vserver myserver start" via a script in rc2.d, I find the /dev/console errors in /var/log/boot, but when I do the same later, then there are no errors
1164048098 M * hmeyer whats wrong there?
1164048123 M * TheSeer ERROR: Can not find configuration for the distribution 'fdr6';
1164048127 M * TheSeer wtf?
1164048135 M * TheSeer it used to work yesterday :/
1164048138 M * Bertl hmeyer: what 'symlink' did you make?
1164048139 M * TheSeer what did i break? ;)
1164048169 J * DavidS ~david@217.19.46.10
1164048191 M * hmeyer ln -s /dev/tty /dev/console
1164048228 M * Bertl and /dev/tty exists?
1164048287 M * hmeyer Bertl: sorry...inside the host I did ln -s /dev/tty /etc/vservers/.default/vdirbase/myserver/dev/console
1164048287 M * Bertl btw, cp -va /dev/tty /dev/console would work as expected
1164048308 M * hmeyer ok.. what does -va do? ... man cp
1164048376 M * hmeyer root@subversion:/dev# cp -va /dev/tty /dev/console
1164048377 M * hmeyer `/dev/tty' -> `/dev/console'
1164048377 M * hmeyer cp: cannot create special file `/dev/console': Operation not permitted
1164048393 M * Bertl crypt: as said on irc before (see logs) only the last step is missing (in devel) i.e. extending the quota hashes to several per context hashes
1164048404 M * Bertl hmeyer: you need to do that on the host
1164048429 M * Bertl and you probably want to remove the symlink first
1164048459 M * Bertl hmeyer: but what scripts/commands do access console in the guest?
1164048475 M * Bertl hmeyer: IMHO it can only be some keytable or sysfont stuff
1164048486 M * Bertl (which would better be removed completely)
1164048568 M * hmeyer Bertl: /etc/rc3.d/S10sysklogd: 84: cannot open /dev/console: No such device or address
1164048580 M * hmeyer Bertl: /etc/rc3.d/S20ssh: 75: cannot open /dev/console: No such device or address
1164048593 M * hmeyer Bertl: /etc/rc3.d/S99rc.local: 29: cannot open /dev/console: No such device or address
1164048622 M * Bertl and that after you copied /dev/tty there?
1164048681 M * Bertl hmeyer: could you elaborate on your host distro, kernel patch and tool version?
1164048722 M * hmeyer Bertl: what do you mean by elaborate?
1164048759 M * Bertl crypt: so, what is required, is a script or tool verifying all the possible quota changes and special cases (checks) for 'normal' quota
1164048783 M * hmeyer Bertl: I'm running a self-patched edgy Kernel and latest utils-vserver from edgy...
1164048784 M * Bertl hmeyer: well, do we know anything about it yet? maybe I missed that info ...
1164048806 M * hmeyer Bertl: no I did not tell yet...see above
1164048848 M * crypt Bertl, i'll first read the irc logs ;)
1164048855 M * Bertl hmeyer: hmm, so you are not even sure the kernel works as expected ...
1164048882 M * Bertl hmeyer: anyway, guests seem to start fine when you do it by hand (where /dev/tty points to your current vt)
1164048902 M * Bertl hmeyer: but it fails on system startup, where /dev/tty points to (where?)
1164048945 M * Bertl hmeyer: any 'security' measures like se-linux or grsec activated?
1164048947 M * hmeyer Bertl: I did your copy command: hmeyer@clostridium:~$ sudo cp -va /etc/vservers/.defaults/vdirbase/subversion/dev/tty /etc/vservers/.defaults/vdirbase/subversion/dev/console
1164048947 M * hmeyer `/etc/vservers/.defaults/vdirbase/subversion/dev/tty' -> `/etc/vservers/.defaults/vdirbase/subversion/dev/console'
1164048979 M * hmeyer Bertl: no...at least not that I know of...I did not change the default edgy settings
1164049020 M * Bertl ahem, try the following:
1164049031 M * Bertl rm -f /etc/vservers/.defaults/vdirbase/subversion/dev/console
1164049036 M * Bertl rm -f /etc/vservers/.defaults/vdirbase/subversion/dev/tty
1164049048 M * Bertl cp -va /dev/tty /etc/vservers/.defaults/vdirbase/subversion/dev/console
1164049055 M * Bertl cp -va /dev/tty /etc/vservers/.defaults/vdirbase/subversion/dev/tty
1164049121 M * Bertl alternatively, try to replace /dev/tty with something like /dev/tty8 (or so) jusst for a test, stuff should show up on the physical vc 8 then
1164049195 M * hmeyer Bertl: how do I test my new conf now?
1164049214 M * hmeyer Bertl: do I always have to reboot?
1164049228 M * Bertl first, you didn't change anything in the config
1164049245 M * Bertl second, no, if you figure how your system startup is calling the start script
1164049256 M * Bertl third, first try with a 'simple' guest restart
1164049288 M * hmeyer Bertl: by config I meant the /dev stuff
1164049351 M * hmeyer Bertl: hey great - my vserver started up correctly!
1164049354 M * hmeyer thanks!
1164049363 M * Bertl you're welcome!
1164049413 M * hmeyer Bertl: do you know a good source to read and understand the concept of terminals, virtual terminals and so on? 
1164049443 M * Bertl yeah, the kernel source :)
1164049471 M * crypt Bertl, is there a quota patch for this kernel: 2.6.18.1
1164049492 M * crypt because the patches from: http://www.13thfloor.at/patches/ are for older kernels
1164049579 M * Bertl http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/OLD-DELTA/delta-cq0.01.diff was the last one for 2.6
1164049608 M * Bertl but note: the first bunch of tests have to be done without context quota
1164049640 M * daniel_hozac TheSeer: forget to specify -d fc6?
1164049715 M * TheSeer nope... i did that..
1164049743 M * TheSeer but i must have made some other quirk somewhere that broke the argv parsing
1164049753 M * TheSeer since it fell back to auto-detection
1164049763 M * hmeyer Bertl: no other recommendation?
1164049771 M * TheSeer and the auto-detect code uses  fdr  for fedora, instead of fc as the config is
1164049804 M * daniel_hozac yep.
1164049820 M * Bertl hmeyer: I'm sure there are documents describing that, but I haven't found one which would be understandable and correct (yet) ... please let me know when you do
1164049927 M * crypt Bertl, are these thougts correct? http://paste.linux-vserver.org/680
1164050025 M * Bertl hmm, well that's all nice, but:
1164050050 M * Bertl - we will not need vroot at the beginning, it is a proxy for security and we do not care about security atm
1164050061 M * crypt ok
1164050083 M * Bertl - quota consists of user and group quota, with soft (grace) and hard limits
1164050105 M * Bertl - the following cases need some 'reproduceable' testing
1164050140 M * Bertl   + single inode/block for user/group
1164050142 M * hmeyer Bertl: I found this: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Text-Terminal-HOWTO-6.html seems to be quite nice
1164050182 M * Bertl   + several inodes/blocks for user/group add/remove
1164050198 M * Bertl   + over soft (grace) limit for user/group
1164050212 M * Bertl   + hitting hard limit for user/group
1164050231 M * Bertl hmeyer: yep, not that bad
1164050264 M * Bertl - as quota is also inode/block based, setting and overriding quota as root has to be tested too
1164050363 M * crypt do you now, whether there is a document out in the world, where such functions are described of quota?
1164050389 J * shedi ~siggi@217.41.232.137
1164050405 M * Bertl http://souptonuts.sourceforge.net/quota_tutorial.html
1164050444 M * crypt thanks a lot
1164050452 M * crypt i copied all the things you mentioned
1164050456 M * Bertl there is also an API document, looking for that right now
1164050617 M * Bertl can't find it ATM, you'll have to search
1164050643 M * TheSeer rpm-fake.so: vc_create_context(): Invalid argument
1164050643 M * TheSeer rpm-fake.so: failed to initialize communication with resolver
1164050656 M * TheSeer what does that try to tell me on a "vserver build" request?
1164050672 M * hmeyer Bertl: is my vserver now bound to /dev/tty8 ?
1164050673 M * Bertl what context number/id do you use?
1164050688 M * Bertl hmeyer: if you used /dev/tty8, then yes
1164050692 Q * chand Quit: chand
1164050704 M * TheSeer none?
1164050712 M * hmeyer Bertl: can I bind multiple vservers to /dev/tty8 ?
1164050714 M * TheSeer doesn't it take one automagically anymore?
1164050737 M * Bertl TheSeer: dynamic contexts are deprecated, please choose a static one and use it
1164050744 M * Bertl hmeyer: sure
1164050744 M * TheSeer aahh.. okay ;)
1164050766 M * hmeyer Bertl: which one is then shown on actual screen?
1164050806 M * Bertl actual screen?
1164050875 M * hmeyer Bertl: I can see /dev/tty8 by pressing ALT+F8 - what will I see, if multiple vservers are bound to it?
1164050904 M * Bertl a mixture of the output/operations of all guests
1164050941 M * hmeyer ok...and where will my input go?
1164050975 M * Bertl nothing should be bound there, unless you enabled tty8 for something else
1164051047 M * hmeyer Bertl: I get the feeling, that the best would be to remove my /dev/tty and /dev/console and try to clean my startup scripts...
1164051061 M * daniel_hozac /dev/tty should stay.
1164051068 M * daniel_hozac it just refers to the controlling tty.
1164051076 M * Bertl well, yes, that definitely would be the best (remove console and fix scripts)
1164051081 J * chand ~chand@c80-217-67-241.bredband.comhem.se
1164051100 M * Bertl maybe we should add a 'dummy' console at some point
1164051126 M * hmeyer Bertl: so I have to modify my default ksyslogd and sshd startup scripts
1164051146 M * Bertl I really don't think that they use that
1164051168 M * Bertl I would more expect that some logging functions  do this
1164051189 M * Bertl i.e. something sourced to pretty print stuff on a real terminal
1164051204 M * Bertl for some reason those functions fail when there is no console
1164051277 M * hmeyer why do they just fail when called by init, but not when called from a terminal?
1164051305 M * Bertl I'd assume that your init, for whatever reason, does not have a proper terminal (console)
1164051321 M * Bertl and the runlevel script does not redirect it properly either
1164051333 M * hmeyer how can I change this?
1164051359 M * Bertl for that, you would have to figure what exactly goes wrong
1164051407 M * Bertl i.e. debug the scripts with '-x' or so, and see what is assigned and where it fails
1164051442 Q * DavidS Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1164051539 M * hmeyer ok...S10ksyslogd: create_xconsole
1164051573 M * Bertl hmm, what's that?
1164051620 M * hmeyer looked suspicious...it's doing mknod -m 640 /dev/xconsole
1164051638 M * Bertl well, that will fail for sure
1164051651 M * hmeyer why is it doing this?
1164051666 M * Bertl I have no idea, it's your distro in the guest :)
1164051754 M * hmeyer it seems to have something to do with those colourful outputs
1164051778 M * Bertl could be, although I'd suspect 'xconsole' to be related to x11
1164051809 M * hmeyer is this ok?
1164051811 M * hmeyer     if [ -z "${1:-}" ]; then
1164051811 M * hmeyer         return 1
1164051811 M * hmeyer     fi
1164051811 M * hmeyer     echo -n "$@"
1164051838 M * Bertl for what?
1164051891 M * hmeyer it all from /lib/lsb/init-functions - and it sources inside S10ksyslogd - it seems to handle fancy color output
1164051940 M * Bertl you have to find references to /dev/console
1164051949 M * Bertl that's what it is complaining about, no?
1164051982 M * Bertl colorful guest startup/shutdown works quite fine here with a mandriva/mandrake guest, for example, so that is not a problem per se
1164052014 Q * sladen Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1164052246 Q * Frosty Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1164052253 J * sladen paul@starsky.19inch.net
1164052459 M * hmeyer ok...I found it... it's /etc/lsb-base-logging.sh  log_to_console
1164052466 M * jabra Bertl: hey
1164052477 M * hmeyer it says: loop=y $func "$@" </dev/console >/dev/console 2>&1
1164052500 M * hmeyer Bertl: what would be better to use instead of /dev/console?
1164052504 M * Bertl hmeyer: great! simply remove the redirections
1164052520 M * Bertl i.e. make it 'loop=y $func "$@"
1164052565 M * hmeyer ok...I'll give it a try...just a sec..rebooting
1164052614 P * Roey Leaving
1164052870 Q * sebastian 
1164052954 M * crypt Bertl, http://www.cryptronic.de/wiki/Vserver_en:playing_around_with_quota
1164053021 Q * brcc Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1164053030 M * Bertl from the 'todo' better make it like this:
1164053068 M * Bertl - 100M partition, use the existing testfs.sh framework to create reproduceable filesystems and setups
1164053083 M * Bertl - forget quota patches and xid tagging for now
1164053116 M * Bertl - create a test framework similar to testfs.sh which checks the beforementioned cases
1164053132 M * Bertl for this, one of my test tools might come handy, sec ...
1164053175 M * Bertl http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/TOOLS/setugid.c
1164053201 M * jabra Bertl: i can't seem to find that edgy repo to add to my source.list
1164053216 M * jabra i saw it earlier
1164053260 M * Bertl hmm, what do the ubuntu folks say about that?
1164053271 M * Bertl (i.e. what fails?)
1164053292 M * jabra i'm not there yet
1164053302 M * jabra i want to use the repo you guys have
1164053326 M * Bertl ah, well, I do not use edgy, so no repo, but maybe somebody using it knows?
1164053346 M * hmeyer jabra: what fails?
1164053356 M * jabra haven't try it instal lit yet
1164053372 M * Bertl guess he'd like to know the source.list entries :)
1164053377 M * jabra ya
1164053387 M * jabra the point is i want to use package management
1164053390 M * hmeyer Bertl: whaaa...I changed  /etc/lsb-base-logging.sh on the host - not on the guest ..whaaaa
1164053405 M * Bertl hmeyer: lol
1164053413 M * jabra i mean i can compile from source but then it sorta is useless 
1164053471 M * Bertl IIRC, ubuntu uses dpkg (as debian does), so that should work fine, maybe somebody will paste the source.list entries to paste.linux-vserver.org
1164053471 M * hmeyer jabra: I use ubuntu and just say: vserver build -m debootstrap -- -d edgy -m UBUNTU-MIRROR -- --resolve-deps
1164053493 M * hmeyer jabra: this builds a nice ubuntu guest with minimal sources.list
1164053513 M * hmeyer jabra: you mean the kernel itself?
1164053513 M * Bertl btw, this will also work when your host system is not dpkg based (i.e. not ubuntu/debian/whatever)
1164053552 M * jabra i haven't patches the kernel yet
1164053568 M * jabra s/patches/patched
1164053575 M * Bertl building a guest should work to some degree without a patched kernel
1164053597 M * hmeyer jabra: I did patch the edgy kernel myself - but it cost me about a month to find out how...
1164053600 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: btw, does building a guest require a patched kernel at some point? and if, why/what for?
1164053615 M * hmeyer jabra: but I can send you my ready build kernel.deb
1164053625 M * jabra um i would perfer docs
1164053653 M * jabra using someone else's deb doesn't give me a feeling of being safe
1164053695 M * hmeyer jabra: understand..that was my reason to do it myself :-)
1164053700 M * Bertl fair enough ... I wouldn't use that either ... (hmeyer: no offence meant)
1164053719 M * jabra hmeyer: do u have docs
1164053732 M * hmeyer jabra: first: follow this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile?highlight=%28kernel%29
1164053737 M * jabra k
1164053784 M * hmeyer jabra: once it is working with the latest edgy kernel sources (2.6.17) get the patch from linux-vserver.org
1164053786 M * jabra Bertl: is there an offical kernel-patch for debian unstable ?
1164053807 M * jabra if so crack some skulls and get that into edgy. fyi i will help
1164053808 M * hmeyer jabra: there is a patch in unstable which is broken
1164053822 M * jabra k
1164053840 M * jabra hmeyer: the patch via source ?
1164053849 M * hmeyer jabra: ?
1164053851 M * Bertl jabra: there is an up-to-date 2.6.18-something kernel with Xen and Linux-VServer in debian 
1164053867 M * jabra Bertl: ok
1164053870 M * jabra hmeyer:  get the patch from linux-vserver.org
1164053882 M * jabra you mean the .diff.gz source ?
1164053885 M * hmeyer jabra: http://ftp.linux-vserver.org/pub/kernel/vs2.0/patch-2.6.17.13-vs2.0.2.1.diff.bz2
1164053889 M * jabra right
1164053897 M * jabra cool 
1164053898 M * hmeyer jabra: patch your sourcetree
1164053949 M * jabra brb in like 20 mins then
1164054084 M * hmeyer jabra: find all *.rej files and resolve those manually
1164054092 N * trash Trash
1164054100 N * Trash trash
1164054101 N * trash Trash
1164054103 N * Trash trash
1164054109 M * hmeyer jabra: should be 8:
1164054114 M * Bertl trash: hmm?
1164054129 M * hmeyer ./drivers/block/Makefile.rej
1164054129 M * hmeyer ./fs/nfs/inode.c.rej
1164054129 M * hmeyer ./fs/nfs/nfs3xdr.c.rej
1164054129 M * hmeyer ./fs/super.c.rej
1164054129 M * hmeyer ./include/linux/mount.h.rej
1164054130 M * hmeyer ./init/version.c.rej
1164054131 M * trash oh, sorry, I almost forgot being in other channels. ;)
1164054132 M * hmeyer ./kernel/sysctl.c.rej
1164054134 M * hmeyer ./Makefile.rej
1164054340 M * jabra hmeyer: um ok
1164054362 M * hmeyer jabra: did you resolve all .rej ?
1164054391 M * jabra working on geting the stuff setup
1164054410 M * jabra doing  sudo apt-get source linux-source-2.6.17
1164054472 M * hmeyer I did just: sudo aptitude install linux-source
1164054553 M * jabra ok
1164054583 M * hmeyer then create a working dir: mkdir kernel-build;cd kernel-build
1164054612 M * hmeyer jabra: tar xjf /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.17.tbz
1164054641 M * hmeyer jabra: wget http://ftp.linux-vserver.org/pub/kernel/vs2.0/patch-2.6.17.13-vs2.0.2.1.diff.bz2
1164054651 M * jabra ya
1164054652 M * hmeyer jabra: cd linux-source-2.6.17
1164054653 M * jabra i know
1164054661 M * jabra i'm not a noob
1164054679 M * hmeyer k
1164054690 M * jabra trust me
1164054791 J * DavidS ~david@217.19.46.18
1164054815 M * jabra fyi the docs at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile?highlight=%28kernel%29 don't work
1164054844 Q * ruskie Quit: killed
1164054858 M * hmeyer jabra: sorry I used http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Kernel - but they are german
1164054885 M * jabra ok that patch applied correctly
1164054910 J * ruskie ~ruskie@ruskie.user.oftc.net
1164054929 M * hmeyer jabra: I don't think so...: find . -name "*.rej"
1164054930 M * jabra um actually it didn't 
1164054936 M * hmeyer yes
1164054952 M * hmeyer jabra: you have to resolve those 8 rejections manually
1164054955 M * jabra k
1164054960 M * jabra should be fun
1164054966 Q * samueltc Quit: BitchX-1.1-final -- just do it.
1164054985 M * hmeyer jabra: most are trivial, but those fs stuff is quite confusing, because some functions changed files...
1164054997 M * jabra heh sounds like a good time
1164055010 M * jabra probably just crack open my k&r book
1164055041 M * hmeyer jabra: not to hard though
1164055057 M * jabra so i will need to fix these patches each time ?
1164055078 M * hmeyer jabra: what do you mean by each time?
1164055085 M * jabra each time i update the kernel
1164055092 M * hmeyer jabra: yep
1164055101 M * jabra fun
1164055179 M * jabra ok
1164055198 M * jabra i'll fix them after i grab some starbucks
1164055339 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: it depends on the build method. e.g. fai, rpm, yum, and apt enter the context (more or less) at some point.
1164055354 M * jabra i hate thomas lang and fai
1164055397 M * hmeyer daniel_hozac: why does apt?
1164055409 J * Aiken ~james@tooax6-169.dialup.optusnet.com.au
1164055417 M * daniel_hozac because it, like rpm and yum, use rpm-fake.
1164055454 M * hmeyer daniel_hozac: is this internal to debootstrap?
1164055464 M * daniel_hozac debootstrap is not apt.
1164055478 M * daniel_hozac apt is for apt-rpm.
1164055480 M * jabra hmeyer: i might just remove the dir of a few of them as i don't need arm26
1164055480 M * hmeyer daniel_hozac: ups...ok..sorry
1164055488 M * jabra heh
1164055505 Q * Aiken 
1164055522 M * hmeyer jabra: I wouldn't remove anything...maybe you can, but I think you shouldn't
1164055532 J * Aiken ~james@tooax6-169.dialup.optusnet.com.au
1164055540 M * daniel_hozac any particular reason you don't just use a vanilla kernel?
1164055540 M * jabra meh i don't have the arm26 hardware
1164055553 M * hmeyer jabra: I had not .rej at the arm26 stuff
1164055569 M * jabra daniel_hozac: it is as vanilla as they get
1164055571 M * daniel_hozac i.e. what features does the Ubuntu kernel have that you need?
1164055581 M * daniel_hozac jabra: if it was vanilla, you wouldn't have rejects.
1164055589 M * hmeyer jabra: if you don't configure to use arm26, you should not care about
1164055600 M * jabra hmeyer: true
1164055604 M * hmeyer daniel_hozac: but its ubuntu
1164055606 M * jabra daniel_hozac: i want the security updates
1164055630 M * daniel_hozac jabra: ... you won't get any security updates just because you patch the ubuntu kernel.
1164055638 M * daniel_hozac you'll still need to handle it manually.
1164055644 M * daniel_hozac only now it's far more work.
1164055670 M * jabra ya your probably right
1164055709 M * jabra time for starbuck bbl in a bit
1164055760 Q * shedi Read error: No route to host
1164055783 J * shedi ~siggi@217.41.232.137
1164056232 Q * gerrit Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1164056953 M * hmeyer can I have services on both the host and a (or multiply) guest listing to the same port? eg. multiple webservers on port 80?
1164056990 M * daniel_hozac only if you limit the host's service manually.
1164057026 M * hmeyer daniel_hozac: you mean the address range?
1164057041 M * daniel_hozac i mean the addresses it's listening to.
1164057059 M * hmeyer daniel_hozac: I'trying to tell apache2 to do it, but maybe I'm to stupid
1164057072 M * daniel_hozac Listen <address>:80 should do it, IIRC.
1164057163 M * hmeyer wow...that worked like charm
1164057534 Q * DavidS Read error: No route to host
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1164057771 M * jabra aight vanilla kernel time
1164059103 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: hmm, i.c. (reg guest enter) wouldn't a chroot suffice for that? (just thinking)
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1164059128 M * daniel_hozac well, you can't be sure what the scripts run.
1164059142 M * daniel_hozac (guest enter on build, right?)
1164059149 M * Bertl yep
1164059198 M * Bertl but I think, when the tools are designed to install to a directory (and some of them are, right?) they should better make sure that the scripts are not executed
1164059238 M * Bertl and don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that the tools should not change into the guest context, when the kernel is patched :)
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1164059278 M * daniel_hozac why would you be building guests on a non-patched kernel? :)
1164059333 M * Bertl well, yeah, good question, but there are several cases where that might come handy
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1164059356 M * Bertl - you are building templates for a different guest or arch?
1164059371 M * Bertl - you are building the guests on a fileserver
1164059401 M * daniel_hozac well, at least rpm-based build methods will likely require the scripts to be run.
1164059634 M * Bertl okay, fair enough ...
1164060223 J * brcc bruce@i.am.someasshole.com
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1164065614 M * Bertl waldi: the unaligned access in filldir64, was that resolved?
1164065626 M * Bertl (http://irc.13thfloor.at/LOG/2006-10/LOG_2006-10-12.txt)
1164066109 P * stefani I'm Parting (the water)
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