1160874823 M * Zaki hi Bertl 1160874838 M * Zaki Bertl, why not /vserver be /vs instead which is shorter? 1160874850 M * Zaki and push for it to be standard in linux :) 1160875086 M * Bertl well, neither /vserver nor /vs would be LSB conform 1160875107 M * Bertl but you can easily change the default path for your config/setup 1160875191 Q * _node 1160875728 Q * Johnnie Remote host closed the connection 1160875745 J * mire__ ~mire@127-166-222-85.adsl.verat.net 1160876000 Q * mire Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1160876171 J * Johnnie ~jdlewis@jdlewis.org 1160876783 M * Zaki Bertl, openvz are pushing for making /vz included in linux standards 1160876828 M * Bertl well, once that happens /vs or /vservers should be no problem :) 1160876845 M * Zaki Bertl, oh sorry i thought they mean by "partitioning" as the layout of file systems 1160876897 M * Zaki Bertl, but they mean in the articles that i've seen by partitioning: dividing the sytem into vps'es 1160876981 M * Zaki that was because i was searching for info about partitioning disk for openvz: 1160876981 M * Zaki http://www.google.com/search?hs=mPF&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=+openvz+partitioning&btnG=Search 1160877036 M * Zaki "The companies' move to make OpenVZ partitioning standard in Linux is timely, said (...)" 1160877052 M * Bertl well, another payed advertizement :) 1160877061 M * Zaki :) 1160877131 M * Bertl and it even gets worse, looking at the details: 1160877138 M * Bertl And OpenVZ isn't even the first major virtual private server software project for Linux. That position goes to Vserver, an open-source package that's used in Positive Software's FreeVPS product. 1160877171 M * Bertl and they think OVZ is 'more mature' .. funny world :) 1160877187 M * Zaki i'm an old H-Sphere user 1160877189 M * Zaki so i know :D 1160877215 M * Bertl well, back to something useful ... 1160877221 M * neuralis Bertl: i was curious; how does e.g. usb hotplug play along with vserver? 1160877241 M * Bertl neuralis: depnds on what, where and how 1160877255 M * Bertl typically usb requires a hotplug agent 1160877265 M * Bertl (which creates the device nodes) 1160877293 M * Bertl if you configure (tune/setup) that properly, it can as well create devices for a guest 1160877295 M * neuralis Bertl: right. i imagine you can't go loading lkms from the guests, so you'd have to run udev and such in the host, and then somehow propagate the device nodes into guests where they'r eneeded? 1160877304 M * neuralis yep. :) 1160877308 M * Bertl precisely 1160877356 M * neuralis cool, that's pretty much ideal. 1160877413 M * Bertl one idea on my list of interesting enhancements is a pci mapping 1160877433 M * Bertl to allow to have 'certain' pci devices assigned to guests 1160877480 M * Bertl something interesting for another project based on Linux-VServer, called More Ubuntu 1160877499 M * Bertl (allowing to share a single machine among several users) 1160878178 M * neuralis yeah, it'd be interesting to see if we can get vserver into ubuntu. 1160878195 M * neuralis security updates are the classic problem with anything non-mainline, though, which is why we didn't have xen for a long time. 1160878216 M * Bertl kernels should be there, at least debian has it (with Xen too) 1160878252 M * Bertl I would be surprised if ubuntu hadn't picked that up 1160878299 M * neuralis nope, no vserver kernels in ubuntu. just the patch and util-vserver. 1160878375 M * neuralis it's conceivable that it could be done as a universe package, but i don't know if we've allowed any kernels in universe so far. 1160878434 M * neuralis actually, looks like there's a bunch of old kernels in universe. so it shouldn't be a rules issue. 1160878459 M * neuralis i'll bring it up at the dev summit and talk it over with the rest of the server team. 1160878463 M * Bertl https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VServer 1160878484 M * Bertl just found that via google (I'm not an ubuntu guy :) 1160878515 M * neuralis Bertl: sure, but that's a non-standard repository. it's a random person's packages. 1160878540 M * Bertl yeah, got that, you might also talk to waldi, who does the debian kernels 1160878629 M * neuralis yeah, and let me run it past chuck. it's possible he could be convinced to maintain an ubuntu-vserver kernel officially. 1160878806 Q * mire__ Quit: Leaving 1160879371 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: ping? 1160882113 J * WaSiLaKi ~mIRCTR@85.107.45.121 1160882121 M * Bertl welcome WaSiLaKi! 1160882127 M * WaSiLaKi thnk 1160882133 M * WaSiLaKi speak turk 1160882133 M * WaSiLaKi ? 1160882140 M * WaSiLaKi pls 1160882141 M * Bertl nope, sorry, english here 1160882144 M * WaSiLaKi ok 1160882147 M * WaSiLaKi thnks 1160882162 M * WaSiLaKi nıce a ser ver 1160882182 M * Bertl means? 1160882187 M * WaSiLaKi Bertl what is your name? 1160882197 M * Bertl Bertl, obviously :) 1160882200 M * WaSiLaKi :) 1160882202 M * WaSiLaKi kadir 1160882204 M * WaSiLaKi :) 1160882207 M * WaSiLaKi turkey 1160882209 M * WaSiLaKi istanbul 1160882220 M * Bertl nice to meet you! 1160882230 M * WaSiLaKi ırc 1160882232 M * WaSiLaKi nıce 1160882238 M * Bertl means? 1160882238 M * WaSiLaKi :) 1160882246 M * WaSiLaKi 1 sn 1160882295 M * WaSiLaKi yes 1160882297 M * WaSiLaKi oke 1160882308 M * WaSiLaKi i m sorry 1160882311 M * WaSiLaKi no speak 1160882313 M * WaSiLaKi eng 1160882325 M * WaSiLaKi oke 1160882326 M * WaSiLaKi ? 1160882337 M * Bertl hmm, a pity ... 1160882347 M * WaSiLaKi 1 sn 1160882349 M * WaSiLaKi :) 1160882372 M * WaSiLaKi yse 1160882373 M * WaSiLaKi :( 1160882376 M * WaSiLaKi yes 1160882383 M * Bertl guess you are using a translation service .. seems to work though 1160882397 M * WaSiLaKi :))) 1160882399 M * WaSiLaKi sende 1160882400 M * WaSiLaKi haklısın 1160882402 M * WaSiLaKi sanırım 1160882403 M * WaSiLaKi :))) 1160882411 M * Bertl means? 1160882439 M * WaSiLaKi i quit ok 1160882440 M * WaSiLaKi ? 1160882459 M * WaSiLaKi sorry 1160882463 M * WaSiLaKi no speak 1160882477 M * WaSiLaKi :))) 1160882482 M * WaSiLaKi goognice 1160882488 M * WaSiLaKi goodnice 1160882489 M * WaSiLaKi pls 1160882492 M * WaSiLaKi :))) 1160882497 M * Bertl well, you should learn it sooner or later 1160882515 M * WaSiLaKi ı don't no 1160882520 M * WaSiLaKi :( 1160882525 M * WaSiLaKi ßye 1160882530 M * Bertl cya 1160882549 P * WaSiLaKi 1160882579 T * Bertl http://linux-vserver.org/ <- new and shiny | latest stable 2.02.1, 1.2.10, 1.2.11-rc1, devel 2.1.0, exp 2.1.1-rc40, stable+grsec 2.0.2.1 | util-vserver-0.30.211 | libvserver-1.0.2 & vserver-utils-1.0.3 | He who asks a question is a 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~mire@127-166-222-85.adsl.verat.net 1160891899 Q * gluk Read error: Operation timed out 1160893324 J * meandtheshell ~markus@85-125-230-237.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at 1160893745 Q * meandtheshell Quit: exit (0); 1160893759 J * meandtheshell ~markus@85-125-230-237.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at 1160896102 J * dmax ~semaj@81.193.56.156 1160899115 Q * MrX Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1160899712 J * MrX ~urk@219.95.4.156 1160900949 J * bonbons ~bonbons@83.222.36.111 1160905366 J * matti matti@linux.gentoo.pl 1160907090 M * daniel_hozac Bertl_zZ: pong 1160908871 J * click_ click@ti511110a080-2121.bb.online.no 1160909045 Q * click Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1160909263 P * click_ [IRSSI] 1160909356 J * click click@ti511110a080-2121.bb.online.no 1160909581 J * phedny_ ~Mark@2001:838:3ca:0:add6:454f:c8c1:73d5 1160910163 Q * phedny_ Quit: I'm fine again 1160910327 J * Piet hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org 1160913135 Q * gdm Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1160913518 J * gdm ~gdm@www.iteration.org 1160914983 Q * 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~dreamind@C2107.campino.wh.tu-darmstadt.de 1160918214 M * dreamind Hi folks 1160918218 M * Bertl hey 1160918224 Q * ntrs Quit: Leaving 1160918240 M * dreamind can anybody tell me if its possible to do a mount --bind for a file through /etc/vservers/*/fstab? 1160918257 M * Bertl sure, should be no problem 1160918258 M * dreamind because I would like to mount bind /etc/locale.gen from the host into the vservers 1160918284 M * dreamind well I get an error: secure-mount: chdir("/etc/locale.gen"): Not a directory 1160918306 M * daniel_hozac do bind mounts really work on files? 1160918307 M * dreamind doing it by hand works though... 1160918311 M * dreamind daniel_hozac: yup 1160918314 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: of course! 1160918331 M * daniel_hozac so how do you do it? mount --bind file /tmp doesn't work here. 1160918373 M * dreamind not to a directory 1160918381 M * dreamind touch file_a file_b 1160918386 M * dreamind mount --bind file_a file_b 1160918387 M * Bertl touch /tmp/x 1160918390 M * Bertl mount --bind /etc/rc /tmp/x 1160918390 M * dreamind echo blah >> file_a 1160918392 M * dreamind cat file_b 1160918408 M * daniel_hozac ah, ok. 1160918443 M * dreamind Bertl: so is there a way to do this through the fstab of the vserver? 1160918468 M * Bertl acording to the error message and daniel_hozac's response: not yet :) 1160918483 M * dreamind hm, bad :( 1160918501 M * Bertl well, you can put it into the pre/post scripts 1160918505 M * dreamind because daniel_hozac is responsible for secure_mount? or why? 1160918520 M * dreamind ah ok this would be a possible solution, any docs on this? 1160918523 M * Bertl he volunteered to maintain util-vserver 1160918526 M * dreamind ah :D 1160918549 M * dreamind nice to hear somebody volunteered for maintainership :) 1160918581 M * Bertl yeah, and we didn't even update the Hall'o'Fame yet, IIRC 1160918590 M * dreamind even though this feature is missing... util-vserver is nice to work with 1160918618 M * daniel_hozac mkdir -p /etc/vservers//scripts; echo mount --bind /etc/locale.gen /vservers//etc/locale.gen >> /etc/vservers//scripts/pre-start or so. 1160918632 M * dreamind daniel_hozac: thanks :) 1160918664 M * dreamind and for shutdown? will it get automatically unmounted? 1160918668 M * Bertl hmm, seems that got moved to the developers section now?! 1160918717 M * daniel_hozac dreamind: yes, the mount will vanish when the namespace dies. 1160918732 Q * sp Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1160918753 M * dreamind daniel_hozac: ah ok :) 1160918912 J * sp sp@ip-87-97.members.virt-ix.net 1160918913 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: hmm, do you know did Hollow roll back the wiki at some point? 1160919095 M * daniel_hozac hmm? 1160919106 M * Bertl ah, nevermind, I'm confused ... 1160920429 M * dreamind daniel_hozac: works like a charm, and a script makes it easier for me to check if the files exist :D 1160921494 Q * mire Quit: Leaving 1160923989 M * Bertl okay, off for now .. back later 1160923993 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1160926642 M * phedny vserver-copy only works with old-style .conf vservers? 1160926755 M * daniel_hozac yep, it's a legacy script. 1160926828 M * phedny okay 1160927030 M * phedny then what is the best way to transfer a vserver to another host? 1160927050 Q * s4edi Quit: Leaving 1160927062 M * phedny just scp all /etc/vservers/x/ files and the entire vdir? 1160927068 M * daniel_hozac rsync should work fine. 1160927169 M * phedny I have no experience with rsync and it's just a one-time transfer I need to do 1160927231 Q * MrX Quit: urk IRC v0.-1.4 - http://urk.sf.net/ 1160927271 J * MrX ~urk@219.95.4.156 1160927833 J * Blissex ~Blissex@82-69-39-138.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk 1160927906 J * dna_ ~naucki@1-201-dsl.kielnet.net 1160928291 J * shedi ~siggi@130.208.221.254 1160929086 J * mire ~mire@127-166-222-85.adsl.verat.net 1160931287 J * ntrs ~ntrs@68-188-51-87.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com 1160931711 J * Viper0482 ~Viper0482@p54976D11.dip.t-dialin.net 1160931736 Q * Viper0482 Remote host closed the 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J * michal` ~michal@www.rsbac.org 1160947613 Q * dna_ Quit: Verlassend 1160949498 M * daniel_hozac spTim: are you the author of the stylesheet for http://linux-vserver.org/VServer_Configuration? 1160949509 M * spTim yep 1160949521 M * daniel_hozac what command did you use to get the output? 1160949554 M * spTim I used xmlspy's internal xsl processor 1160949573 M * daniel_hozac so not xsltproc as the flower page. 1160949602 Q * h01ger Quit: h01ger 1160949602 J * h01ger ~holger@socket.layer-acht.org 1160949637 M * daniel_hozac any ideas on how i might regenerate it? 1160949643 M * daniel_hozac btw, did you see the changes i did in SVN? 1160949655 M * daniel_hozac IIRC i just moved the auto-generated warning to the top of the page. 1160949721 M * spTim daniel_hozac: i did'n see the changes, yet. but i take a look at it right now 1160949760 M * daniel_hozac it'd be nice if i could generate the page myself, do you have any idea on how to make it work with xsltproc? 1160949782 Q * dreamind Quit: dreamind 1160949808 M * daniel_hozac (or maybe xalan would work...) 1160949859 M * daniel_hozac i'm not really familiar with the whole XML thing :) 1160949865 M * daniel_hozac (if that's not obvious by now) 1160949999 M * spTim daniel_hozac: it looks like xsltproc doesn't like xsl version 2 1160950007 M * daniel_hozac indeed. 1160950467 M * daniel_hozac is the stylesheet using any version 2 constructs? is it possible to convert it to version 1? 1160950896 M * daniel_hozac in the meantime, do you think you could update the page with the 0.30.211 version? 1160950954 J * dreamind ~dreamind@C2107.campino.wh.tu-darmstadt.de 1160950995 Q * meandtheshell Quit: exit (0); 1160951490 M * spTim daniel_hozac: wiki updated.. 1160951503 M * daniel_hozac ok, thank you. 1160952100 M * spTim daniel_hozac: mmm.. i didn't find an xslt 2.0 engine for linux, yet 1160952566 J * FireEgl FireEgl@Sebastian.Atlantica.US 1160953650 M * derjohn2 daniel_hozac, what is the lastest v6 patch? do you have one for rc40 ? 1160956270 M * micah derjohn2: did you ever get an openvpn /client/ to work in a vserver? I've seen your info about a server 1160956366 N * Bertl_oO Bertl 1160956369 M * micah is there still no way to map the tun0 interface into a guest? 1160956370 M * Bertl back now .. 1160956377 M * micah welcome back Bertl! 1160956379 M * derjohn2 micah, I didnt try yet. I build the openvpn for roadwarroirs with notebooks (no vservers). But I dont see a reason why it shouldnt work. 1160956386 M * derjohn2 hello Bertl ! 1160956407 M * Bertl tun/tap with persistant mode works flawless here 1160956410 M * micah derjohn2: well, I'm about to find out I guess... I want to do the client in the vserver, I have a server elsewhere already setup :) 1160956420 M * derjohn2 micah, as long as the you prepare the tun interface and a non-dynmaic ip. 1160956435 M * micah shouldn't be a problem 1160956464 M * micah do I need to use a tap device, instead of a tun device? I do not know the difference between the two 1160956469 M * micah but my existing clients all use tun0 1160956485 M * Bertl tun should be fine, names are misleading anyway 1160956506 M * Bertl you want the ip layer device (not the ethernet one) 1160956585 M * micah Bertl: how do I specify that? 1160956608 M * Bertl tunctl here says: 1160956608 M * Bertl -e will result in a layer 2 device (ether tap) 1160956627 M * Bertl that's the one you do _not_ want to use :) 1160956653 M * micah I was planning on doing MAKEDEV tun in /vserver//dev/; then tunctl -t tun0 1160956671 M * micah huh, my tunctl man page doesn't have -e 1160956753 M * Bertl IIRC, it was added later on :)