1159747371 M * GTX- Guys? 1159747540 J * samueltc ~samuel@d154-20-170-153.bchsia.telus.net 1159747583 J * Viper0482 ~Viper0482@p549777C7.dip.t-dialin.net 1159747761 Q * ligaya-ian 1159747818 M * Bertl GTX-: hmm, check the link in the config 1159747831 M * GTX- Could someone give me a brand new config to use or something 1159747832 M * Bertl what does: ls -la /etc/vservers/mysql4/vdir 1159747834 M * GTX- as mine must be crap 1159747840 M * GTX- Bertl, There is nothing in there 1159747852 M * Bertl hmm, how did you create that guest? 1159747858 M * GTX- mines in /etc/vservers/.defaults/vdirbase/mysql4/ 1159747890 M * Bertl that is via the default config, i.e. you skipped one link here 1159747900 M * Bertl means: ls -la /etc/vservers/.defaults/vdirbase 1159747914 M * Bertl that points to your 'default' dir for guests 1159747938 M * Bertl but when you create a new guest, the vdir for that guest gets set too 1159747951 M * Bertl so my question, how did you create it in the first place? 1159747973 M * GTX- not a clue, could you tell me how I erase it and do it the proper way 1159747994 M * Bertl no a clue sounds interesting :) 1159748011 M * GTX- I can't realy remember now did it like 4 houirs ago 1159748011 M * GTX- :p 1159748040 M * Bertl okay, but I'm not sure you want to start from scratch 1159748047 M * GTX- Ok, well how can I fix the problems 1159748080 M * Bertl for that it would be helpful to get an idea _what_ you did .. maybe just a few general things no details :) 1159748100 M * GTX- Erm, Just did a basic install of Debian 1159748112 M * GTX- copied vreboot and vshutdown to /usr/sbin/ on guest 1159748115 M * GTX- and thats about it 1159748128 M * GTX- but reboot doesnt work, and it doesnt display virtual uptime 1159748147 M * Bertl basic install means via debootstrap or so? 1159748152 M * GTX- yup 1159748172 M * Bertl aha, hmm, well, but you don't really care about the actual guest contents, yes? 1159748188 M * GTX- correct 1159748213 M * Bertl okay, have a short look here: http://oldwiki.linux-vserver.org/alpha+util-vserver 1159748223 M * Bertl scroll down to vserver creation 1159748239 M * GTX- k 1159748258 M * Bertl there is an example (the last one of the Examples section) 1159748276 M * Bertl which shows how you would use the tools to build a sarge guest via network 1159748293 M * GTX- yup 1159748309 M * Bertl bascially you want to adjust the hostname and maybe guest name and the ip 1159748319 M * GTX- where do I put the I{? 1159748320 M * GTX- IP* 1159748323 M * Bertl also you want to select an unique context id 1159748339 M * Bertl in the example: 1159748340 M * Bertl * vserver foo build -m debootstrap --hostname vs.foo.org --netdev eth0 --interface 192.168.3.1/21 --context 42 -- -d sarge -m ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian 1159748351 M * Bertl where do you think would the ip go? 1159748380 M * GTX- :P 1159748394 M * Bertl but you can also write it like this: 1159748404 M * Bertl --interface eth0:192.168.3.1/21 1159748422 M * Bertl or if you want an alias (so that ifconfig sees it too) 1159748435 M * Bertl --interface hans=eth0:192.168.3.1/21 1159748439 M * GTX- Indeed :p 1159748441 M * GTX- It's installing 1159748457 M * Bertl this command will create everything required for the guest config 1159748478 M * Bertl you can then adjust the settings in the config, but the basic stuff is already there 1159748484 M * GTX- kk 1159748488 M * GTX- Thank you Bertl :) 1159748496 M * Bertl only thing left to do after complete install is a little cleanup of your guest 1159748501 M * Bertl np, you're welcome! 1159748512 M * GTX- cleanup of the guest? What kind of things 1159748540 M * Bertl well, usually you disable all hardware related scripts 1159748558 M * GTX- I see, how come? 1159748559 M * Bertl they do not cause harm but give ugly error messages on startup and shutdown 1159748704 M * matled that is what I removed in etch: http://nopaste.php-q.net/243689 1159748708 Q * Viper0482 Remote host closed the connection 1159748730 M * Bertl GTX-: btw, no need for vshutdown or whatever (IMHO) 1159748814 M * GTX- k 1159748821 M * GTX- so when this default install is done 1159748825 M * GTX- I should be able to just type reboot 1159748827 M * GTX- and it'll reboot 1159748837 M * Bertl depends on the init style 1159748851 M * Bertl with sysv init (the default) you want to do 'reboot -f' 1159748866 M * Bertl with plain init style, you can simply use 'reboot' 1159748871 M * GTX- Whats the command to configure debian once its installed 1159748872 M * GTX- I forgot 1159748901 M * Bertl something with config or reconfig, don't ask me :) 1159748904 M * doener base-config? 1159748909 M * GTX- ta 1159749121 J * Piet hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org 1159749157 M * Bertl wb Piet! 1159749186 M * Piet hey 1159749269 M * Piet i'm surprised you're awake so late. most people who develop a good FOSS have a 9-5 (or 10-6) schedule. 1159749295 M * Piet but nevertheless i'm happy you _are_ awake still :) 1159749300 M * Bertl well, 9 is a little late in the evening for me :) 1159749311 M * doener well, make that 9pm-5am and you have a match ;) 1159749323 M * Bertl it's usually more like 4pm-5am :) 1159749351 M * Piet Bertl: that's when you work on your 'day job'? 1159749354 M * doener 4-9pm is usually filled with relocations and dinner though ;) 1159749376 M * Bertl Piet: that's when I'm usually up (and working on whatever is to do :) 1159749379 M * GTX- how do I delete a vserver 1159749381 M * GTX- tryin to delete old one 1159749402 M * doener stop it, then remove its config directory and its data directory 1159749405 M * Bertl just remove the directories (both data and config) 1159749421 M * GTX- I get errors 1159749427 M * Piet ah, funny times :) 1159749433 M * GTX- rm: cannot remove `mysql4/dev/pts/3': Operation not permitted 1159749433 M * GTX- etc 1159749443 M * GTX- and its 100% stopped 1159749482 M * Bertl well, it might be stopped, but it wasn't shut down properly then 1159749500 M * Bertl what does 'vserver-stat' say to the stopped part, btw? 1159749522 M * GTX- 0 54 230.2M 49.9M 3m09s71 0m57s21 2h35m48 root server 1159749523 M * GTX- 49162 9 42M 10.5M 0m00s37 0m00s17 1h06m17 1159749537 M * Bertl and 49162 is what? 1159749543 M * GTX- dont have a clue 1159749553 M * Bertl probably your guest you assume to be stopped :) 1159749565 M * GTX- and how do I 100% stop it? 1159749589 M * GTX- so I can delete it etc 1159749605 M * Bertl try 'vkill --xid 49162 -s 9 -- 0 1159749612 M * Bertl (does 0 work here, btw?) 1159749646 M * GTX- still get error when deleting 1159749660 M * GTX- doesn't show in server-stat anymore thoe 1159749698 M * Bertl well, propably the pts dir is still mounted, but that should have had happened inside a guest namespace 1159749715 M * Bertl might got broken when you started it without config though 1159749734 M * Bertl check /proc/mounts for evidence of devpts being mounted there 1159749792 M * GTX- Is there anyway to make the "reboot" command automaticlay execute reboot -f 1159749809 M * Bertl well, you have a bunch of options there 1159749821 M * Bertl - create an alias 'reboot' for the shell 1159749836 M * Bertl - create a small wrapper script and put it earlier in the path 1159749854 M * Bertl - recompile reboot to act like -f by default 1159749872 M * GTX- lol 1159749884 M * GTX- Just which ever one is best and has a guide 1159749884 M * GTX- :p 1159749889 M * Bertl - replace the reboot by a tiny C program calling sys_reboot() :) 1159749902 M * Bertl so many options there ... 1159749923 M * matled mv /sbin/reboot /sbin/reboot.real; echo -e '#!/bin/sh\nexec /sbin/reboot.real -f "$@"' > /sbin/reboot; chmod +x /sbin/rbeoot 1159750147 M * GTX- ta matled 1159750202 Q * FireEgl Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1159750428 Q * GTX- Quit: Leaving 1159750700 A * BeLu is away (bye bye) 1159750700 N * BeLu BeLu_zZZz 1159755248 Q * ensc Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by ensc_)) 1159755257 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p54B4D68E.dip.t-dialin.net 1159757810 M * Bertl okay, I'm off to bed now .. have a good one everyone! cya! 1159757817 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1159758645 Q * Johnnie Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1159758975 J * Johnnie ~jdlewis@jdlewis.org 1159760034 Q * coocoon Quit: KVIrc 3.2.0 'Realia' 1159760115 Q * Johnnie Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1159760202 J * Johnnie ~jdlewis@jdlewis.org 1159761569 Q * Piet Quit: :tiuQ 1159763439 Q * samueltc Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1159764848 Q * Johnnie Remote host closed the connection 1159765112 Q * node Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1159769238 J * Johnnie ~jdlewis@jdlewis.org 1159769925 J * meandtheshell ~markus@85-124-36-18.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at 1159771449 Q * Aiken Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1159771922 J * independence ~independe@blinkenshell.org 1159772243 J * dna_ ~naucki@p54BCD588.dip.t-dialin.net 1159773755 J * phreak``_ ~phreak``@styx.xnull.de 1159773858 M * nayco_work Hello, all ! 1159774247 J * Viper0482 ~Viper0482@p549777C7.dip.t-dialin.net 1159774252 M * Viper0482 hi 1159774295 M * Viper0482 whicht kernel options are missing with this errror in testme.sh "chbind: kernel does not provide network virtualization" 1159774355 J * prae ~Benjamin@5-63.206-83.static-ip.oleane.fr 1159774990 Q * derjohn2 Remote host closed the connection 1159775391 M * daniel_hozac Viper0482: you enabled the legacy version without compiling util-vserver with support for the legacy APIs. 1159775429 M * Viper0482 ah ok thanks 1159775463 M * daniel_hozac at least, that is the most likely explanation ;) 1159775933 M * nayco_work He, guys, I just stopped a guest. I want to unmount one of it's partitions, but I get a "mount: xx device is busy" error :-( ! How can I track the faulty process ? 1159776037 M * daniel_hozac hmm, when trying to umount it? 1159776055 M * daniel_hozac does lsof reveal anything? 1159776062 M * nayco_work wait... 1159776066 M * daniel_hozac is your shell in that directory? 1159776094 M * nayco_work chcontext --xid 1 lsof |grep -i GUESTNAME => nothing 1159776109 M * nayco_work chcontext --xid 49154 ps ax 1159776111 M * nayco_work vcontext: vc_ctx_migrate(): No such process 1159776130 M * nayco_work it seems really down, as expected, but I still cannot umount 1159776154 M * daniel_hozac so what's your shell's pwd? 1159776183 M * daniel_hozac umount really should succeed, it's the steps after that which might fail (as it's most likely still mounted in other namespaces). 1159776236 M * nayco_work Well, inside the guest before stopping, I can't remember. But now that i'm outside, it's /usr/src (I went there to check something, it's not related) 1159776274 M * nayco_work daniel_hozac: how do I check that it's still mounted in other namespaces ? It shouldn't, anyway... 1159776428 M * daniel_hozac vnamespace -e cat /proc/mounts 1159776455 M * daniel_hozac for all of your guests. 1159776459 M * nayco_work vnamespace -c 49154 1159776460 M * nayco_work vnamespace: vc_cleanup_namespace(): Function not implemented 1159776466 M * nayco_work oh, ok, I try 1159776466 M * daniel_hozac not -c. 1159776468 M * daniel_hozac -e 1159776509 M * nayco_work vnamespace -e 49154 cat /proc/mounts 1159776510 M * nayco_work vnamespace: vc_enter_namespace(): No such process 1159776560 M * daniel_hozac does xid 49154 exist? 1159776571 M * daniel_hozac and you really should stop using dynamic xids, 1159776577 M * daniel_hozac they are deprecated and will be going away RSN,. 1159776635 M * nayco_work daniel_hozac: Yes, I learned about dynamic xids... I gonna correct my vservers along the way... 1159776685 M * nayco_work daniel_hozac: my vserver is stopped, so how can I now for sure its xid ? Can I list running xids ? 1159776714 M * daniel_hozac ls -l /proc/virtual 1159776740 M * daniel_hozac if it's stopped, it won't be running :) 1159776760 M * daniel_hozac and with dynamic xids, if your guest isn't running, it doesn't have an xid. 1159776843 M * nayco_work daniel_hozac: Well, I thought that this lock was caused by a process that was still running in this context, as the vserver stopped with an error... 1159776866 M * daniel_hozac what error was that 1159776879 M * nayco_work moreover, it appears that the vserver actually is stopped, thaks to /proc/virtual and vserver-stats 1159776965 M * nayco_work daniel_hozac: http://paste.linux-vserver.org/427 1159777014 M * nayco_work Oh, sh*t, I though there wasn't any lesson in this dept, but they need it : I gonna restart it now :-D (bofh mode) : 1159777043 M * daniel_hozac haha. 1159777053 M * nayco_work Yes ? 1159777063 M * daniel_hozac yeah, sure. 1159777097 Q * mcp Read error: Connection reset by peer 1159777098 M * nayco_work I hadn't seen this message for many months and older utils-vservr versions. 1159777108 M * daniel_hozac what util-vserver version is it? 1159777117 M * nayco_work daniel_hozac: No, I mean : what do you mean by "haha" ? 1159777141 J * mcp ~hightower@wolk-project.de 1159777168 M * nayco_work 0.30.210 , rebuilt from Bertl mandriva RPMS 1159777251 Q * phreak`` Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by phreak``_)) 1159777252 N * phreak``_ phreak`` 1159777288 M * daniel_hozac nayco_work: your bofh comment ;) 1159777319 M * daniel_hozac i don't know what shutdown does exactly, IIRC it only contacts init so it seems strange that it didn't die. 1159777343 M * daniel_hozac and i assume the french text before the command is "Process killed" or something like it? 1159777353 M * nayco_work Anyway, I had to reboot it, they rellay need it. I guess I won't know what happened... 1159777402 M * daniel_hozac no problem, i guess i already know what happened. 1159777518 M * matti Hi daniel_hozac :) 1159777532 M * daniel_hozac hey matti. 1159777551 M * daniel_hozac nayco_work: if it is the problem i think it is, it's already fixed in trunk. 1159777604 M * daniel_hozac (or at least, it's supposed to be) 1159777607 Q * shedi Quit: Leaving 1159777759 M * nayco_work daniel_hozac: Ok, good :-) ! So you mean there was a problem (a deadlock, something like this ?) that kept the mount locked from umounting, but this due to a bug, right ? It's the utils, or the kernel patch ? 1159777828 M * daniel_hozac nayco_work: no, not related to the mount, but to the error message on shutdown. 1159777858 M * daniel_hozac nayco_work: hmm, do you have CONFIG_VSERVER_LEGACY enabled in your kernel? 1159779923 M * nayco_work # grep CONFIG_VSERVER_LEGACY /usr/src/linux-2.6.17.13/.config 1159779923 M * nayco_work CONFIG_VSERVER_LEGACY=y 1159779923 M * nayco_work # CONFIG_VSERVER_LEGACY_VERSION is not set 1159779923 M * nayco_work CONFIG_VSERVER_LEGACYNET=y 1159779941 M * nayco_work daniel_hozac: Yes, is it bas ? 1159779944 M * nayco_work bad ? 1159781015 Q * phreak`` Quit: leaving 1159781042 M * harry nayco_work: why should that be bad? 1159781150 M * harry nayco_work: what version is that? 1159781162 M * harry on my vserver kernel options, it says: 1159781173 M * harry # CONFIG_VSERVER_LEGACY is not set 1159781174 M * harry CONFIG_VSERVER_NGNET=y 1159781223 J * cdrx ~legoater@242.32.96-84.rev.gaoland.net 1159782612 Q * derjohn Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1159783569 J * derjohn ~derjohn@dslb-084-058-199-157.pools.arcor-ip.net 1159783629 J * Wido ~wido@kantoor-amersfoort.pcextreme.nl 1159783632 M * Wido hello 1159783730 Q * mire Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1159783975 M * nayco_work harry: Because daniel_hozac asked me which VS kernel options i had set, and I wonder why ;-) 1159785355 M * nayco_work Where is the best place in "/etc/vservers/*guest*/" to put code that must be executed each time a guest starts or stops ? I mean, it is certainly written in the great flower page, but I'm asking this because I want to know it for the special case of "vrsetup /dev/vroot0 /dev/volume1/xxxx" (for disk quotas) ! 1159785471 Q * derjohn Quit: by(t)e 1159785486 J * derjohn ~derjohn@dslb-084-058-199-157.pools.arcor-ip.net 1159785621 M * Wido hi 1159785646 M * Wido did they release a patch for the 2.6.18 kernel yet? 1159785711 M * mnemoc who is they? 1159785714 M * mnemoc are* 1159785756 M * Wido the developers of VServer 1159785776 M * Wido there are a lot of NFS fixes in 2.6.18 and i use a lot of NFS in combination with VServer 1159785820 M * mnemoc http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/patch-2.6.18-vs2.0.2.1-t8.diff 1159785871 M * Wido i couldn't find a link at http://www.linux-vserver.org/Downloads? 1159785929 M * mnemoc it's a test patch 1159785938 M * Wido aha, ok 1159785949 M * Wido i am happy to test it :) 1159786016 M * mnemoc good :) 1159786025 M * Wido building it right away 1159786312 J * mire ~mire@243-166-222-85.COOL.ADSL.VLine.verat.net 1159787332 M * meandtheshell harry: can I use the gradm at http://www.grsecurity.net/download.php with a vserver+grsec patched vanilla kernel? 1159787357 M * meandtheshell I'm talking about gradm-2.1.9-200608201448.tar.gz 1159787516 M * meandtheshell harry: by the way - does the fact running a vserver+grsec patched kernel imply any changes to gradm sources at all? 1159788324 Q * mire Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1159788754 J * Hollow_mobile ~bene@217.110.45.98 1159788763 M * Hollow_mobile hey all 1159788890 M * meandtheshell Hollow_mobile: hi there 1159789081 M * meandtheshell Hollow_mobile: good to have you here right now - looking at http://svn.linux-vserver.org/ I'm not sure what's necessary for me to gather - I guess just util-vserver and the kernel patch - no? what is this libserver, vcd, vstatd and vwrappers stuff? What I read until know is that that belongs somehow to this kind of new daemon you're creating - no? 1159789126 P * Viper0482 und weg 1159789145 M * Hollow_mobile meanndtheshell: exactly 1159789202 M * meandtheshell ok - just wanted to be sure ... thank you :) 1159789235 M * Hollow_mobile meandtheshell: http://svn.linux-vserver.org/svn/ for svn checkout 1159789265 M * meandtheshell yep - I know 1159789608 M * harry yes 1159789624 M * harry and: no :) 1159789648 M * harry i haven't used gradm all that much yet.. it works, thats about all i know ;) 1159789672 Q * derjohn Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1159789707 J * derjohn ~derjohn@80.69.37.19 1159790338 J * shedi ~siggi@dsl-149-109-85.hive.is 1159790372 J * mire ~mire@90-166-222-85.COOL.ADSL.VLine.verat.net 1159790718 Q * derjohn Read error: Connection reset by peer 1159790729 J * derjohn ~derjohn@80.69.37.19 1159791006 M * meandtheshell harry: I see - so you you you don't use RBAC at all? 1159791029 M * meandtheshell oops - to much of "you" today :) 1159791076 M * harry nope, no rbac for me... too much work imho :) 1159791085 M * meandtheshell I see 1159791089 M * harry i use all grsec and pax features tough :) 1159791101 M * harry (you can find my kernel config on my linux-vserver page 1159791132 M * meandtheshell that one http://people.linux-vserver.org/~harry/ ? 1159791175 M * harry yes 1159791178 M * meandtheshell ok 1159791183 M * meandtheshell what do I need the "grsecurity-iptables-1.3.5.patch" at http://www.grsecurity.net/download.php for? Is this optional to use with a grsec patched vanilla kernel from kernel.org or is it mandatory to use grsecurity-iptables-1.3.5.patch? 1159791243 M * harry that's just some stealth module 1159791249 M * meandtheshell oh my god - bad grammar, typos etc. /me should go to bed ... 1159791254 M * harry it's in the "big" patch too i think... 1159791256 M * meandtheshell so optional 1159791267 M * meandtheshell ah - ok 1159791268 M * harry doesn't do much... :) 1159791306 M * nayco_work Sorry to ask again ;-) : Where is the best place in "/etc/vservers/*guest*/" to put code that must be executed each time a guest 1159791309 M * nayco_work starts or stops ? I mean, it is certainly written in the great flower page, but I'm asking this because I 1159791310 M * meandtheshell I see - so your vanilla sources and your vserver+grsec patch should be it ... 1159791312 M * nayco_work want to know it for the special case of "vrsetup /dev/vroot0 /dev/volume1/xxxx" (for disk quotas) ! 1159791316 M * harry i don't use the stealth module anyways... (not many people do, afaik, since it was broken for allmost the entire 2.6 tree... and i sent a fix to spender a couple of weeks ago) 1159791330 M * harry so now, it works... :) 1159791331 M * meandtheshell harry: I see 1159791345 A * meandtheshell waves to harry :) 1159791363 J * mcdanilo ~bforce@p54B0DF1A.dip.t-dialin.net 1159791369 M * mcdanilo hallo 1159791394 M * mcdanilo jemand da, der mir ne kurze info geben kann? 1159791403 M * are|lunch betreffs? 1159791404 M * mcdanilo oder mag? 1159791412 N * are|lunch _are_ 1159791485 M * mcdanilo gibt es ein paper darüber,wie vserver funktioniert? also ich meine nicht installation sondern was der patch so alles anstellt... 1159791537 M * meandtheshell mcdanilo: http://www.linux-vserver.org/Paper 1159791559 M * meandtheshell mcdanilo: and please speak/write english - thank you 1159791615 M * mcdanilo oh ok, sorry for this...and thanks for the link! 1159791661 M * meandtheshell no problem - you are welcome 1159791769 M * meandtheshell mcdanilo: this http://linux-vserver.org/List_of_old_Documentation_pages might also help you, since we're right now in a stage of migrating from wiki_old to wiki_new. As of now there hasn't been anything migrated/merged into the new wiki 1159791813 M * meandtheshell s/anything/everything/ 1159791818 M * harry nayco_work: depending on when you want to run it... 1159791828 M * harry pre-start, pre-prestart, start, ... 1159791858 M * harry sry... prepre-start 1159792122 M * daniel_hozac nayco_work: hmm, that rules out the problem i was thinking about. 1159792135 M * daniel_hozac nayco_work: if you can reproduce the shutdown hanging issue, ping me. 1159792384 M * mcdanilo meandtheshell: ok, thanks for this...I will have a look at this, too... 1159792426 M * daniel_hozac nayco_work: see the scripts directory. 1159792845 M * harry ow btw. meandtheshell , that patch is only useful if you want to actually use stealth module... the patch is , off course, for the iptables userspace tools 1159793108 Q * mcdanilo 1159793224 A * Hollow_mobile is off again 1159793226 Q * Hollow_mobile Quit: Leaving 1159793269 J * x123 ~x123@217-162-61-228.dclient.hispeed.ch 1159793399 Q * h01ger Remote host closed the connection 1159793430 J * h01ger ~holger@socket.layer-acht.org 1159793511 M * meandtheshell harry: well, I need to read about that stealth stuff a bit anyway since I'm not 100% sure right now what it does ... /me assumes it must be something about droping packages ... (but on the other hand this is already possible with plain iptables ... hm ...) 1159793530 Q * x123 1159793554 M * meandtheshell *dropping 1159793699 M * harry meandtheshell: i don't see any real use for it 1159793709 A * harry perfectly happy with iptables way of working 1159793723 M * harry (well... af happy as one can be with iptables :)) (or xtables :)) 1159793742 M * harry bsd's pf would be nicer, but noone here knows that :) 1159793744 A * meandtheshell thinks so too buts wants to know about this stealth thing 1159793767 M * harry plus: i don't want to compile new iptables sources... just the packaged one has to suffice :) 1159793772 J * Dimmu cliff@dropkick.oisec.net 1159793788 M * meandtheshell *but 1159793791 M * meandtheshell harry: I see 1159793800 M * meandtheshell oh my god 1159793807 A * meandtheshell nap attack !! 1159793818 M * meandtheshell back later ... 1159793819 M * harry garfield!!! 1159793821 M * harry ;) 1159793826 M * meandtheshell hihi 1159793844 N * meandtheshell meandtheshell_oO 1159793845 M * harry btw. check the sourcecode of grsec :) ipt_stealth.c 1159793857 M * meandtheshell_oO harry: will do ... 1159793871 M * Dimmu I'm having some issues running vserver on a server that has been NFS bootstrapped. And especially concerning extended attributes/acls's. 1159793883 M * Dimmu Inside the virtual server strace shows me invalid arguments on getxattr syscall 1159793894 M * Dimmu outside virtual server (on physical box) I don't have these issues (even on same files) 1159793905 M * Dimmu sounds familiar to someone ? :) 1159793918 M * daniel_hozac hmm, slightly. 1159793949 M * Dimmu running kernel 2.6.18 with vs2.0.2.1-t8 patch that was pasted earlier here :) 1159794005 M * Dimmu another strange thing I noted is that it occurs reasonably random inside the virtual machine 1159794014 M * daniel_hozac oh? 1159794019 M * daniel_hozac so it works sometimes? 1159794046 M * Dimmu It does work sometime yeah 1159794049 M * sid3windr o_O 1159794097 M * Dimmu strace output: getxattr("mailserver", "system.posix_acl_access", 0xbfcbde70, 132) = -1 EINVAL (Invalid argument) 1159794142 M * daniel_hozac and when it's working? 1159794171 M * Dimmu other file in same vserver gives me 1159794172 M * Dimmu getxattr("mailserver", "system.posix_acl_access", 0xbfbb9d00, 132) = -1 ENODATA (No data available) 1159794181 M * h01ger micah, ping. i dont understand why you fix the "." in NodeNames for "vserver_rmemory config" but not for "vserver_rmemory" ?! 1159794185 M * Dimmu if I do the same on these files outside the virtual server 1159794227 M * Dimmu getxattr("mailserver", "system.posix_acl_access", 0xbffca8e0, 132) = -1 ENODATA (No data available 1159794231 M * Dimmu and 1159794253 M * Dimmu getxattr("mailserver", "system.posix_acl_access", 0xbfaa3420, 132) = -1 ENODATA (No data available) 1159794275 M * Dimmu but If i set some extended attribute or acl on these files in the physical server 1159794284 M * Dimmu like setfacl -m u:root:rwx mailserver 1159794330 M * Dimmu it sometimes works 1159794363 M * Dimmu however I also have an xfs partition on the physical server that is also reachable inside virtual 1159794367 M * Dimmu and there I have no problems 1159794482 M * daniel_hozac so basically, your problem is that ACLs kinda sort of sometimes work? :) 1159794499 M * Dimmu jup :) 1159794508 M * daniel_hozac but only over NFS? 1159794519 M * Dimmu I only experience the problems over NFS in the virtual server 1159794567 M * daniel_hozac very strange. 1159794587 M * Dimmu I was first blaming NFS (as usual :)) but no issues in physical 1159794814 M * daniel_hozac are you using NFS xid tagging? 1159794842 M * Dimmu no 1159794851 Q * cdrx Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1159795304 M * h01ger micah, same goes for vserver_vmemory.. 1159795412 M * h01ger micah, i'll add a gpl2-header to vsmem_, ok? :) 1159795529 M * h01ger same for vsmultcpu... 1159796075 J * chand ~chand@ATuileries-151-1-73-22.w86-212.abo.wanadoo.fr 1159796678 J * chand_ ~chand@ATuileries-151-1-73-22.w86-212.abo.wanadoo.fr 1159796678 Q * chand Read error: Connection reset by peer 1159797246 J * GTX- ~charlie@82.136.48.180 1159797254 M * GTX- I get a raw error when I use traceroute, using debian 1159797257 M * GTX- on guest ^ 1159797313 M * mnemoc if you really want to do that you need to give that ugly capability 1159797316 M * mnemoc to the guest 1159797334 M * GTX- ugly capability? 1159797357 M * GTX- How would I do that 1159797406 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1159797411 M * Bertl morning folks! 1159797421 M * doener morning Bertl 1159797434 M * Bertl GTX-: you basically want to use tracepath instead ... 1159797439 M * GTX- morning Bertl, Im back again! 1159797443 Q * derjohn Quit: by(t)e 1159797456 M * GTX- Bertl, I need standard traceroute to work 1159797507 M * Bertl GTX-: why? 1159797530 M * GTX- Because I need it to all be standard, what customer wants 1159797565 M * Bertl well, if you allow traceroute, then your customer can sniff and forge any packets on your network 1159797573 M * Bertl but you can enable that, of course 1159797589 M * GTX- Ok, so how do I enable it ;x 1159797612 M * Bertl simply add CAP_NET_RAW to the capabilities file in the config 1159797634 M * Bertl http://www.nongnu.org/util-vserver/doc/conf/configuration.html 1159797636 M * GTX- and where do I locate the config? 1159797646 M * mnemoc ehm 1159797687 M * mnemoc how did you setup those guests if you don't even know where the config is? 1159797704 M * GTX- I don't know which config, I know its in /etc/vservers/servername 1159797711 M * GTX- There is no standard configuration file 1159797712 M * GTX- Just folders 1159797748 M * doener the file for capabilities on 2.6 is bcapabilities (jsut as the flower page says) 1159797801 M * GTX- so I put that in /etc/vservers/servername/bcapabilities 1159797831 J * derjohn ~derjohn@80.69.37.19 1159797925 M * Bertl GTX-: correct, where is the name of your guest 1159797931 M * GTX- indeed 1159797966 M * Bertl after a restart, traceroute will work, as will sniffing and spoofing :) 1159797976 M * Bertl (guest restart that is) 1159798107 Q * micah Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1159798621 J * s0undt3ch_ ~s0undt3ch@bl8-1-96.dsl.telepac.pt 1159799064 Q * s0undt3ch Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1159799108 M * GTX- How do I change a vservers IP? 1159799126 M * mnemoc GTX-: http://www.nongnu.org/util-vserver/doc/conf/configuration.html 1159799264 Q * s0undt3ch_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1159799388 J * s0undt3ch ~s0undt3ch@bl8-1-96.dsl.telepac.pt 1159799828 J * coocoon ~coocoon@dslb-084-056-151-107.pools.arcor-ip.net 1159799868 M * coocoon hello 1159800326 M * nib-nico At the linuxtag 2006 in germany there was a guy who showed a setup with drbd and heartbeat. Does anybody know who the guy is an how to reach him? 1159800427 M * coocoon dunno who it is but where to find something is here http://oldwiki.linux-vserver.org/Vserver+DRBD 1159800507 M * coocoon and here http://wiki.linux-vserver.org/List_of_pages_not_migrated_yet 1159800554 M * Bertl nib-nico: you probably mean derjohn :) 1159800610 M * derjohn Bertl, nib-nico: That was _are_ / are 1159800617 M * derjohn _are_, ? 1159800680 M * nib-nico are? 1159800744 M * nib-nico I think he was from a linu 1159800759 M * nib-nico x systemhaus in munich/muenchen 1159800762 Q * chand_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1159800878 M * nib-nico ehm is are a nickname? 1159800892 J * chand ~chand@ATuileries-151-1-73-22.w86-212.abo.wanadoo.fr 1159800892 M * matti Hi Bertl ;) 1159800933 Q * coocoon Quit: KVIrc 3.2.0 'Realia' 1159800955 M * nib-nico ahhh it is I thought I had a grammatic mistake with is and are or something therefore i was confused 1159800980 M * h01ger ay, http://munin.projects.linpro.no/wiki/HowToWritePlugins says: "DERIVED vs. COUNTER": to be written. can you tell what the diff is and then i can put the info there? 1159801594 M * nib-nico i found it, it is are, thanks 1159801789 J * Thomsen ~thomsen@p54B9EEC8.dip.t-dialin.net 1159801800 M * Thomsen hi 1159802149 J * marcfiu ~mef@targe.CS.Princeton.EDU 1159802166 M * marcfiu are there any v2.0.2.x patches for 2.6.18? 1159802176 M * marcfiu oh.. btw... hello. 1159802193 Q * bogus Remote host closed the connection 1159802198 M * doener http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/patch-2.6.18-vs2.0.2.1-t8.diff 1159802211 J * bogus ~bogusano@fengor.net 1159802221 M * doener t8 ~= try8 (or so) 1159802298 J * micah ~micah@micah.riseup.net 1159802316 M * Thomsen is it possible to use 127.0.0.1 as loobback in guestsystems ?? 1159802371 M * marcfiu nice... thanks. 1159802744 Q * chand Quit: chand 1159802772 J * chand ~chand@ATuileries-151-1-73-22.w86-212.abo.wanadoo.fr 1159802971 J * Piet hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org 1159803038 Q * chand 1159803042 J * chand ~chand@ATuileries-151-1-73-22.w86-212.abo.wanadoo.fr 1159803626 M * nayco_work daniel_hozac , harry : Thanks, i'll study the great flower page. Is it still the reference for vservers configuration ? 1159803653 M * harry it is for me ;) 1159803660 M * harry check the scripts part 1159803660 M * marcfiu daniel_hozac: have you tried applying a vs2.0.2.1 to a more recent FC6 prelease? 1159803670 M * harry especially with the pre-start.d dir and so on :) 1159803681 M * nayco_work daniel_hozac: Well, I can't say if I will be to make more tests on it it is a highly used server ;-), but I it happens again, ok. 1159804049 M * daniel_hozac Thomsen: yes. 1159804069 M * daniel_hozac marcfiu: not yet, it's on my TODO. i don't think it would be too hard though. 1159804076 M * daniel_hozac nayco_work: yes. 1159804110 M * daniel_hozac marcfiu: i'm waiting for the final freeze before i start working on it ;) 1159804163 M * Thomsen ok, and where do i have to configure it ?? i have it in my network config , but it won't work 1159804182 M * daniel_hozac Thomsen: you don't have to configure it at all. 1159804185 M * daniel_hozac it works by default. 1159804197 M * daniel_hozac where it is rewritten to the guest's first IP address. 1159804231 M * doener daniel_hozac: probably we have a "loopback" vs. "host/vserver local" confusion here ;) 1159804256 M * Thomsen hmm, strage .. i only can use ist if i set "localhost" to the guest's ip in the guest 1159804265 M * daniel_hozac someone really needs to write a page about the default loopback behaviour... 1159804282 M * Thomsen :-) 1159804285 M * daniel_hozac (*hint* *hint* ;)) 1159804318 A * doener starts his random volunteer generator 1159804358 M * doener and the result is: daniel_hozac *LOL* I did just hold down TAB for some time, pure coincidence 1159804370 M * daniel_hozac damnit! 1159804370 M * daniel_hozac :P 1159804775 M * cehteh http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=385561 1159804802 Q * chand Quit: chand 1159804821 M * daniel_hozac lol 1159804972 M * daniel_hozac marcfiu: oh, the final freeze is today. i'll make sure to look in to it. 1159805015 J * chand ~chand@ATuileries-152-1-32-179.w82-123.abo.wanadoo.fr 1159805020 M * daniel_hozac (i need to rebase FC-5 on 2.6.18 anyway, and i don't think the trees are that different) 1159805407 P * Thomsen 1159805599 Q * chand Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1159805802 J * bonbons ~bonbons@83.222.36.111 1159806575 M * matti Hi harry 1159806815 M * matled can I also put interface configuration files in .defaults? 1159806842 M * matled e.g. interfaces/dev to use one network interface for all vservers which is easy to change 1159807070 Q * Johnnie Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1159807186 J * coocoon ~coocoon@dslb-084-056-189-206.pools.arcor-ip.net 1159807413 Q * matled Remote host closed the connection 1159807457 Q * prae Quit: Quitte 1159808464 J * hardwire ~sspencer@209.112.165.133 1159808472 M * hardwire yowsers 1159808486 M * Bertl yowsers? 1159808492 M * harry hey tough string of conductive metal 1159808494 M * hardwire do you know how outdated I am? 1159808498 M * hardwire I mean really. 1159808516 M * hardwire there are people with dual core xeons as their home mp3 servers nowadays 1159808522 M * harry hardwire: you mean you're older than death? ;) 1159808533 M * hardwire and I have via processors running amuck 1159808533 A * harry old too then... 1159808573 M * Bertl via C7 or C3? 1159808579 M * harry : 19:02 lucifer ~ ;cat /proc/cpuinfo |grep -e "model name" -e "cpu MHz"; free 1159808580 M * harry model name : Pentium 75 - 200 1159808580 M * harry cpu MHz : 199.434 total used free shared buffers cached 1159808583 M * harry Mem: 61540 58996 2544 0 8000 11196 1159808594 M * harry you... new powerfull machine people! :) 1159808678 M * hardwire C3 1159808697 M * hardwire I have 3 C3's two MII-12000 and one PD-10000 board 1159808707 M * hardwire right now my vserver@home config is on the PD-10000 1159808711 M * hardwire its a wee bit pokey 1159808717 M * hardwire even the usb and disk writes are just.. meh.. 1159808825 M * eyck hmm, a single machine with 3 C3 cpus? 1159809551 M * hardwire no 1159809558 M * hardwire 3 differrent mainboards 1159809566 M * hardwire I want a C7 1159809575 M * hardwire and some nanoitx gear :) 1159809716 M * daniel_hozac marcfiu: seems i underestimated it, heh. utrace really moves a lot of things around... 1159809828 Q * hardwire Quit: Ex-Chat 1159809877 J * hardwire ~sspencer@209.112.165.133 1159809999 J * bon ~bon@ustav.ba.stv.sk 1159810024 M * bon hello .) 1159810077 M * hardwire bonjour! 1159810149 J * stefani ~stefani@tsipoor.banerian.org 1159810343 M * hardwire I thought it was freaking hilarious 1159810545 Q * GTX- Quit: Leaving 1159811295 J * Blissex ~Blissex@82-69-39-138.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk 1159811380 J * samueltc ~samuel@d154-20-170-153.bchsia.telus.net 1159813062 J * dos000 ~dos000@wsp05974758wss.cr.net.cable.rogers.com 1159813067 M * dos000 heeeeeeeeelp ! 1159813079 M * Bertl hey dos000! what's up? 1159813086 M * dos000 hey Bertl 1159813111 M * dos000 i need to figure why i cant ping from the guest .. nor traceroute 1159813171 M * Borg- guys.. is there any way for ping 127.0.0.1 to work on guest? 1159813174 M * dos000 Bertl, 1) the packets are coming in 2) tethereal says i am replying to the packets 3) ping from the host works 4) ping from the guest does not work 1159813229 M * dos000 Bertl, funny thing is nothing was changed on this host ! 1159813250 M * dos000 Bertl, it just stopped working last night 1159813341 M * dos000 just @#@$@$# weird 1159813376 M * Borg- dos000: what's the uptime of guest? 1159813411 M * dos000 Bertl, 19min i just restarted it to see if it fixed . host was 19 days 1159813425 M * Bertl dos000: routing does not change over night 1159813437 M * Borg- hmm. 1159813441 M * cehteh hehe 1159813441 M * Borg- firewalling? 1159813444 M * Bertl dos000: I'd assume either your tables or the upstream router changed 1159813485 M * cehteh dos000: you cant ping from the guest with vservers default capabilities 1159813500 M * daniel_hozac cehteh: you're supposed to. 1159813512 M * Bertl Borg-: why would you ping 127.0.0.1 on your guest? 1159813523 M * Borg- Bertl: broken software.. again :/ 1159813533 M * Borg- but I starting to understand why it cannot work.. so easly at least 1159813538 M * Bertl software which is pinging 127.0.0.1? 1159813550 M * dos000 cehteh, ah ! 1159813565 J * soatola ~soatola42@82.153.18.114 1159813566 M * Borg- Bertl: yeah.. in some tests.. but I have to confirm that.. I'll ask some of our developers to show me sources.. 1159813593 M * Bertl Borg-: well, if it at least pings localhost, then it is not especially broken 1159813607 M * Bertl (and will work inside a guest too :) 1159813612 M * Borg- Bertl: yeah.. but they use 127.0.0.1 everywhere.. bastards 1159813856 M * dos000 cehteh, Bertl how can i tell if packets from guest can make it to the remote host ? 1159813871 M * Bertl simple, just use something like: 1159813885 M * Bertl ping -I 1159813887 M * Bertl on the host 1159813931 M * dos000 Bertl, i am getting nothing ! 1159813958 M * Borg- dos000: just run tcpdump on host on iface.. and see what's going on 1159813966 M * cehteh temporary starting the guest with CAP_NET_RAW would enable pinging from the guest .. but dont forget to remove that afterwards 1159813971 M * Bertl dos000: means your guest ip is not routed at all 1159813984 M * cehteh or better use a tool which does tcp or udp probes 1159813998 M * cehteh and yes .. like bertl saies 1159814000 M * Bertl dos000: chances are good that your upstream router accepts the packets, but does not return answers 1159814059 M * dos000 Bertl, i can see the packets going out when i do tethethereal on the host 1159814072 M * dos000 Bertl, but of course no reply 1159814092 M * Borg- dos000: then you know whats going on 1159814102 M * Borg- dos000: router may discards your packets.. 1159814108 M * dos000 Bertl, doing a ping from a different guest returns tho ! 1159814131 M * dos000 Bertl, the other guest is on the same host ! 1159814138 M * Bertl so, next step, contact whoever administrates the router/next hop 1159814182 M * Bertl (you can figure the one to blame with tracepath for the outside/host you ping to the guest ip) 1159814182 M * dos000 Bertl, something is f* up ! 1159814224 Q * shedi Quit: Leaving 1159814392 M * dos000 Bertl, in tracepath is there a way to say -I like ping to mimicj packets from the guest 1159814438 M * Bertl nope 1159814487 M * dos000 Bertl, ah .. i just ran it on the guest 1159814512 M * Bertl you want to run it on the destination, and target the guest :) 1159814683 M * dos000 Bertl, the packets from the destination are coming in fine .. its just on the return path 1159814752 M * Bertl are you 100% sure of that 1159814760 M * dos000 Bertl, by te way i have 2 guests one is nated the other has the public ip . if for some reason you run the same servers listening on the same ports .. could there be an issue 1159814775 M * dos000 Bertl, i can see in ethereal 1159814797 M * Bertl that is very unlogical 1159814830 M * Bertl i.e. you would claim that you see packets (replies) returning which did not leve the host/guest 1159814836 M * Bertl *leave 1159814851 M * Bertl let's make the labeling simpler here: 1159814858 M * Bertl H .. host IP 1159814863 M * Bertl G .. guest IP 1159814879 M * dos000 Bertl, the packets i think are leaving fine from the guest .. it just getting droped from somewhere in the midlle in return path 1159814880 M * Bertl D .. destination you fail to ping (outside host/guest network) 1159814908 M * Bertl the things you already checked with the ping -I G D (on the host) 1159814926 M * Bertl is that the packets are sent out (at least in the stack) but no reply arrives 1159814929 M * matti Hi Bertl. 1159814934 M * dos000 Bertl, 1) H can ping dest 2) G2 (guest 2) can ping destination 3) G cant ping 1159814943 M * Bertl the second check you should do is 1159814955 M * Bertl tracepath G (on D) 1159814962 M * matti Eh. 1159814965 A * hardwire is having odd fits with shorewall and vservers on the same machine 1159814981 M * dos000 Bertl, i did .. its getting no reply from few hhops 1159814985 M * hardwire its odd having to define a zone of IP's for virtualized servers that are basically bound to an interface as far as I knew 1159815075 J * kevinp ~kevinp@ny.webpipe.net 1159815114 M * Bertl dos000: so, which hop is it not replying? 1159815123 M * Bertl dos000: that one needs some adjustments 1159815142 M * Bertl (presumably upstream provider router) 1159815145 M * kevinp Are there any patches against the 2.6.18 kernel yet? 1159815156 M * Bertl kevinp: sure, lots of them 1159815178 M * Bertl http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/ 1159815210 M * kevinp sorry, I was looking at http://ftp.linux-vserver.org/pub/kernel/vs2.1/testing/ 1159815228 M * kevinp I thought that was the new place to look with the new website 1159815245 M * kevinp must be a manual mirror? 1159815248 M * Bertl well, it might be, but nobody copied them there ... 1159815329 M * kevinp I'm guessing the changlog link isn't up to date then either :) 1159815358 M * kevinp http://linux-vserver.org/ChangeLog-2.1 1159815368 M * dos000 Bertl, yes .. tx soooooooo much ! 1159815397 Q * mcp Remote host closed the connection 1159815461 M * Bertl kevinp: well, those patches are testing, so no real release yet 1159815477 J * mcp ~hightower@wolk-project.de 1159815529 M * kevinp I see, I'll let you know how they work :) 1159815624 J * tatiane ~tatiane@201009058078.user.veloxzone.com.br 1159815677 J * matled ~matled@85.131.246.184 1159816051 Q * tatiane Quit: Leaving 1159816577 Q * dos000 Quit: Leaving 1159816906 Q * Blissex Remote host closed the connection 1159816919 Q * samueltc Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1159817435 J * shedi ~siggi@inferno.lhi.is 1159818216 M * hardwire rawr? 1159818525 J * phreak`` ~phreak``@140.211.166.183 1159818629 M * meandtheshell_oO within http://wiki.linux-vserver.org/VServerConfiguration the part /etc/vservers/vserver-name/schedule [hash] points out "priority-bias" - but there's no explanation - so what is it? 1159818635 N * meandtheshell_oO meandtheshell 1159818700 Q * soatola Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1159818710 M * phreak`` daniel_hozac: hrm, _any_ idea how I would get util-vserver to show me the stuff being echo'ed by gentoo's init-process / init-scripts ? 1159818840 J * soatola ~soatola42@82.153.18.114 1159818924 Q * Wido 1159818976 M * daniel_hozac phreak``: haha, we were just discussing that yesterday. 1159819028 M * daniel_hozac phreak``: IIRC there were some success reports when you put an actual tty (like tty8 or whatever) inside the guest, and linked to it from /dev/console, and possibly set it as the tty in apps/init/tty. 1159819035 M * daniel_hozac but i don't remember the details. 1159819160 M * phreak`` just the tty number or the full path ? 1159819196 M * daniel_hozac i think it's a symlink. 1159819266 M * phreak`` nah, in the apps/init/tty file :) 1159819272 M * phreak`` only the tty number ;) 1159819312 M * phreak`` now someone needs to tell me how to use the SECURE_MOUNT stuff. Hollow tried it a while ago, but I have no clue how to use that :) 1159819334 M * phreak`` daniel_hozac: btw, thanks for the tip with the tty, that works :) 1159819349 M * daniel_hozac apps/init/tty is a symlink ;) 1159819372 M * daniel_hozac it does? which parts are required? 1159819465 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1159819483 M * phreak`` daniel_hozac: symlinking /dev/console to /dev/tty8, adding tty8 to apps/init/tty (at least that worked for me) 1159819500 M * daniel_hozac well, the latter step isn't required then as it's a symlink :) 1159819597 M * daniel_hozac or well, supposed to be. 1159819723 M * phreak`` hrm, was the context capability for SECURE_MOUNT just SECURE_MOUNT or VXC_SECURE_MOUNT ? 1159819743 M * daniel_hozac VXC_SECURE_MOUNT is the define in the kernel, secure_mount should suffice for ccapabilities. 1159819929 M * meandtheshell daniel_hozac: what's the difference between bccapabilities to cccapabilities? 1159819952 M * daniel_hozac bcapabilities are regular Linux capabiltiies. 1159819968 M * daniel_hozac ccapabilities are additional, vserver specific capabilities. 1159819988 M * doener and capabilities are 2.4 only 1159819991 M * doener :) 1159820021 M * meandtheshell ok - I see 1159820024 M * daniel_hozac well, they're bcapabilities for 2.4 :) 1159820055 M * doener no, bcapabilities are 2.6, capabilities are 2.4 1159820074 M * daniel_hozac right, but they're still regular Linux capabilities. 1159820084 M * daniel_hozac i.e. same concept, different name. 1159820095 M * doener I give up, you already destroyed my confusion plans :p 1159820107 M * daniel_hozac :P 1159820140 M * phreak`` darn, is there a need for self/status to be sooo cryptic ? I just wanted to check if I got the right vps :P 1159820186 M * daniel_hozac /proc/self/vinfo? ;) 1159820214 M * phreak`` daniel_hozac: still the same :P 1159820219 M * daniel_hozac hmm? 1159820251 M * phreak`` yeah, I don't like summing up the probable ccaps and see if that is whats listed there ;) 1159820265 M * daniel_hozac ah. 1159820281 J * DreamerC_ ~dreamerc@61-217-226-88.dynamic.hinet.net 1159820297 M * daniel_hozac didn't Hollow write some tools that outputted text? 1159820311 M * phreak`` *shrug* :) 1159820372 M * daniel_hozac i guess you could just assume that it's correct until you notice things failing that really ought to work ;) 1159820432 M * phreak`` daniel_hozac: problem is things already _are_ failing and I *need* to know if the context has the secure_mount ccap :) 1159820454 M * daniel_hozac ah, hehe. 1159820460 Q * soatola Quit: Leaving 1159820462 M * daniel_hozac that should be fairly simple though, no? 1159820482 M * daniel_hozac secure_mount is 0x10000 1159820496 M * daniel_hozac so... if that's set, it's set :) 1159820497 M * waldi hmm, how may I add ips to a running guest? vcmd? 1159820515 M * daniel_hozac waldi: that will only work if your guest previously had more than one guest anyway. 1159820519 M * daniel_hozac uh. 1159820523 M * daniel_hozac s/guest/IP/2 1159820525 M * waldi daniel_hozac: yep 1159820531 M * daniel_hozac vcmd should do it then. 1159820537 M * waldi all of my guests have at least 2 1159820546 M * phreak`` daniel_hozac: hrm "CCaps: 0000000000010101" differs a bit from 0x10000, no ? :) 1159820560 M * daniel_hozac phreak``: yep, but 0x10000 is set there. 1159820570 M * daniel_hozac waldi: you're all set then. 1159820573 M * doener ouch... http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/09/25/1427222 1159820574 M * phreak`` daniel_hozac: ok, so the context got the secure_mount stuff. 1159820587 M * daniel_hozac yep. 1159820603 M * doener phreak``: what exactly fail? 1159820632 M * waldi daniel_hozac: do ou have an example? 1159820635 M * daniel_hozac doener: hehehe. 1159820649 M * phreak`` doener: Gentoo's new baselayout :| 1159820657 M * phreak`` doener: http://rafb.net/paste/results/J6WNBk19.html 1159820670 M * phreak`` but thats something hollow has to look at :) 1159820689 Q * DreamerC Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1159820760 M * doener the former should by fixable by adjusting the vserver's fstab 1159820789 M * doener the latter is probably expected (ie. sysfs considerer harmful inside a vserver) 1159820817 Q * brc_ Quit: [BX] Life is like BitchX. Ya never know what yer gunna git. 1159820836 M * daniel_hozac waldi: ./vcmd -i 8002 -C net_add .type=1 .count=1 .ip[0]=192.168.100.88 .mask[0]=255.255.255.0 worked for me. 1159820966 M * waldi works 1159821051 J * brc_ ~bruce@201.19.213.26 1159821071 M * phreak`` doener: how so ? hrm, just removing the /proc entry ? *shrug* I've no clue, thats why I'm asking :) 1159821385 M * doener yep 1159821394 M * doener in /etc/vservers/foo/fstab 1159821644 M * meandtheshell where can I get more Information about the thing called "vshelper" - what it is and what it does? as far as I can tell its part of the kernel patch - no? 1159821718 J * BeLu B.Lukas@mail.openvcp.org 1159821802 M * Bertl meandtheshell: yep, do you know the hotplug helper? 1159821835 M * meandtheshell no - but I know what hotplug is 1159821875 M * Bertl okay, basically the kernel calls out to userspace to do something on behalf of the kernel 1159821954 M * Bertl same is the vshelper, it basically is invoked when something happens inside (or with) a context 1159821984 M * meandtheshell ok - but it resides in kernelspace - right? 1159822000 M * Bertl it is a program in userspace executed from the kernel 1159822014 M * meandtheshell ahh - ok - I see 1159822039 M * Bertl typical events are: reboot/halt, context start/stop 1159822127 M * meandtheshell and those events are carried out by vshelper but it is triggers by the kernel - no? 1159822136 M * meandtheshell *triggered 1159822161 M * Bertl well, yes and no 1159822165 M * meandtheshell :) 1159822176 M * Bertl the reboot/halt is obviously triggered from inside the guest 1159822184 M * meandtheshell ok 1159822190 M * Bertl (via sys_reboot()) but the kernel calls out to userspace on behalf 1159822414 M * meandtheshell but its no daemon - just a binary that is invoked by the kernel - right? 1159822431 M * Bertl precisley 1159822435 M * meandtheshell I see 1159822518 M * meandtheshell and it's only invoked by the kernel not by any other userspace program - right? 1159822565 M * meandtheshell any other userspace program as well 1159822570 M * Bertl typically yes, but of course you could start it from userspace as well 1159822577 M * meandtheshell :) 1159822591 M * Bertl i.e. it's a simple script in the current implementation 1159822604 M * meandtheshell I see 1159822660 M * meandtheshell ok - another question 1159822662 M * meandtheshell within http://wiki.linux-vserver.org/VServerConfiguration the part /etc/vservers/vserver-name/schedule [hash] points out "priority-bias" - but there's no explanation - so what is it? 1159822696 M * Bertl well, it's an offset to the default priority 1159822721 M * Bertl i.e. assumed it is 5, a process with prio 3 would score as prio 8 1159822737 M * meandtheshell I see 1159822749 A * meandtheshell puts that info into the wiki 1159823016 Q * BeLu Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1159823262 J * Piet_ hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org 1159823512 Q * tdjb Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1159823570 Q * Piet Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1159823608 J * Johnnie ~jdlewis@69.94.133.146 1159824012 J * tdjb ~tdjb@209.151.52.189 1159824045 M * Bertl wb Johnnie! tdjb! 1159824070 M * Johnnie Thanks. 1159825025 Q * mire Quit: Leaving 1159825186 Q * tdjb Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1159826170 J * tdjb ~tdjb@209.151.52.189 1159826549 J * samueltc ~samuel@d154-20-170-153.bchsia.telus.net 1159826555 M * samueltc . 1159826587 M * Bertl welcome samueltc! 1159826601 M * samueltc hi Bertl 1159826854 Q * meandtheshell Quit: exit (0); 1159827356 M * matled vserver [..] stop/restart will send a KILL to all processes that are still living inside the vserver after the init scripts stopped? 1159827509 M * daniel_hozac eventually, yes. 1159827514 M * daniel_hozac first it'll send a TERM, IIRC. 1159827835 J * BeLu B.Lukas@mail.openvcp.org 1159828110 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: btw, have you seen the ML posting on amd64? 1159828131 M * daniel_hozac hmm, i don't think so, which are you referring to? 1159828148 M * daniel_hozac the fritzcapi? 1159828171 M * Bertl no, chuck, the centos64 one 1159828173 A * derjohn listens about fritzcapi ... 1159828181 M * daniel_hozac ah, the "centos64 timing out on stop but no service errors"? 1159828205 M * Bertl yep, I wanted to know how it could happen that the timout strikes, but no processes are listed? 1159828216 M * daniel_hozac yeah, that seems very strange. 1159828238 M * Bertl wouldn't that point to the shutdown script itself hanging? 1159828255 M * daniel_hozac shouldn't it still list some process? 1159828279 M * Bertl I don't know how that 'debug feature' works, that's why I'm asking 1159828291 M * daniel_hozac i'm not very familiar with it either. 1159828314 M * Bertl ensc to the rescue? 1159828373 J * Aiken ~james@tooax8-106.dialup.optusnet.com.au 1159828405 Q * tdjb Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1159828419 M * Bertl hey Aiken! 1159828542 M * daniel_hozac hmm. i think it's possible it's a synchronization issue. 1159828570 M * daniel_hozac i.e. that the process list hasn't been populated yet by the time the error message is displayed. 1159828592 M * daniel_hozac AFAICT there's nothing guaranteeing that. 1159828596 M * daniel_hozac ensc? 1159828689 Q * coocoon Quit: KVIrc 3.2.0 'Realia' 1159828737 M * daniel_hozac oh, there it is. 1159828821 M * Aiken Hi Bertl, still just lurking 1159829015 M * matti Eh. 1159829020 M * matti Goodnight all/ 1159829026 M * Bertl night matti! 1159829031 M * matti Thanks. 1159829040 M * daniel_hozac good night matti 1159829335 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: btw, that close_files:cond_resched hang, did we ever get any details about that? 1159829380 Q * sladen Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1159829390 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: nope 1159829394 M * matled does vserver build do anything else but creating the two directories? 1159829401 M * daniel_hozac ok, that's what i thought. 1159829412 M * daniel_hozac matled: such as? what else is there to do? 1159829427 M * matled daniel_hozac: no idea, that's the question :) 1159829462 M * matled I just thought about creating a template for vservers and copying over the directory manually instead of using vserver build 1159829499 M * daniel_hozac vserver name build -m skeleton ... -- rsync -Hav /vservers/template/ /vservers/name/? 1159829572 M * matled this looks quite good, thanks 1159829610 J * sladen paul@starsky.19inch.net 1159829652 M * daniel_hozac will at least handle all of the symlinks in the configuration directory for you. 1159829733 J * Blissex ~Blissex@82-69-39-138.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk 1159829883 M * Bertl wb sladen! Blissex! 1159830960 Q * sladen Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1159831161 Q * BeLu Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1159831185 J * sladen paul@starsky.19inch.net 1159831194 M * matled is this barrier stuff needed with current vserver versisons? or is this what namespaces do? 1159831214 M * bon hello bertl 1159831216 M * bon :) 1159831240 M * Bertl matled: barrier is still needed 1159831376 M * matled ah, showattr/setattr are something different than chattr/lsattr.. 1159831385 M * sladen Bertl: rocking! 1159831392 M * matled is there a man page or something about those tools? 1159831399 M * bon ah 1159831414 M * bon is that paul sladen that helped me on how to get my atheros card working with ibm? :) 1159831419 M * bon thank you 1159831484 Q * dna_ Quit: Verlassend 1159831752 J * mire ~mire@90-166-222-85.COOL.ADSL.VLine.Verat.NET 1159832781 J * Hurga nobody@p508A8C44.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1159832788 M * Hurga Hi. 1159832791 M * matled after doing setattr --barrier /vserver/foo I get "vcontext: execvp("/etc/init.d/rc"): Permission denied" when trying to stop the vserver 1159832865 M * Bertl quite normal 1159832880 M * Bertl the barrier resides above the guest root dir 1159832881 M * matled how should I start/stop the vserver then? 1159832889 M * Bertl so in your case that would have been 1159832898 M * Bertl setattr --barrier /vserver/foo/.. 1159833325 J * Nei ~ailin@onetrix.net 1159833332 M * Nei hi 1159833364 M * Bertl welcome Nei! 1159833372 M * Nei I suppose I should just go to sleep, but would anyone have an idea why postgres 8.1 doesnt want to start in my vserver ? 1159833389 M * Bertl hmm, any messages? 1159833393 M * Nei debian etch 64, I dont even find log files 1159833404 M * Bertl does your host run postgres too? 1159833413 M * Nei no.. 1159833431 M * Bertl try to run it with debugging enabled 1159833454 M * Bertl or use strace -fF -o pg.trace ... 1159833472 M * Nei I just need to find out the command first :> 1159833494 M * Bertl well, the init script will provide some hints I guess 1159833527 M * Nei somehow I miss my/etc/postgresql dir.. I assume something has been reordered in debian 1159833550 M * Bertl maybe it's now in /var/lib >:)