1158105751 J * dreamind ~dreamind@C2107.campino.wh.tu-darmstadt.de
1158105754 M * dreamind hi folks
1158105758 M * Bertl welcome dreamind!
1158105771 M * dreamind can somebody tell me how I can mount a filesystem to a vserver when the vserver is running?
1158105795 M * dreamind i have an 50gb lv, and tried to mount it to the vserver path (in a subdir) but its not accessible from the vserver
1158105829 M * Bertl simple, just use vnamespace to enter the guest namespace, then do the mount :)
1158105850 M * dreamind well, I don't want to have the device in the vserver namespace :(
1158105862 M * Bertl then the guest will never see it :)
1158105898 M * dreamind wouldnt vserver .... exec mount ... then work too?
1158105914 M * Bertl if your guest would have the proper capabilities, yes
1158105933 M * dreamind ah ok. - but with vnamespace I can execute this without the caps?
1158105962 M * Bertl yes, as you stay 'on the host' but _enter_ the 'guest namespace'
1158106024 M * dreamind but the device needs to exist in /dev on the guest?
1158106192 M * dreamind I tried: vnamespace -e kon-do mount /dev/vg_master/temp_falko /srv/vserver/kon-do/home/falko/space
1158106224 M * dreamind but this does not work - I see the mount in the host, but the guest writes still to the underlaying filesystem, not to the new lv temp_falko.
1158106286 M * Bertl hmm, sure about that?
1158106315 M * dreamind kinda. at least if I do touch /home/falko/space/test in the guest, that file is not visible on the host.
1158106341 M * Bertl well, is there a mount on the host too?
1158106348 M * Bertl let me explain what I think that happened
1158106356 M * dreamind no. there is no mount on the host
1158106363 M * Bertl - you entered the namespace quite fine
1158106364 J * s0undt3ch_ ~s0undt3ch@bl7-245-72.dsl.telepac.pt
1158106369 M * dreamind ah ok, so I need to mount in *both*?
1158106391 M * Bertl - you did the expected mount in the guest space, but the mount command added the entry to the host's mtab
1158106423 M * Bertl basically moving that line (from /etc/mtab) to the guest's mtab should give you the following:
1158106434 M * Bertl - lvm mounted and visible inside guest
1158106441 Q * serving Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1158106441 M * Bertl - lvm not mounted on the host
1158106454 M * dreamind Bertl: thanks a lot, it seems to work :D
1158106455 M * Bertl and yes, you can mount it on the host too
1158106562 M * dreamind Bertl: thanks, works fine so far :D
1158106577 M * Bertl you're welcome!
1158106580 M * dreamind Bertl: and how would I automate such a mount, so it appears when a vserver is started?
1158106592 M * dreamind modify the fstab of the vserver?
1158106598 M * Bertl that's quite easy, you just add it to the fstab in the config
1158106605 M * dreamind ok :)
1158106613 M * dreamind nice nice :)
1158106635 M * dreamind even though it kinda frustrated me at first ;)
1158106659 M * Bertl yeah, folks usually come with an UML/Xen perspective
1158106674 M * Bertl needs some time to adjust to simple solutions :)
1158106806 Q * s0undt3ch Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1158106806 N * s0undt3ch_ s0undt3ch
1158107176 M * dreamind Bertl: hehe true true ;)
1158107196 M * dreamind Bertl: anyhow, its way too late, and I need to get up at (at least) 8:00 o'clock
1158107203 M * dreamind so, good night :)
1158107213 M * Bertl have a good one!
1158107224 M * dreamind thanks ;)
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1158110180 Q * fosco helium.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1158110180 Q * kaner helium.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1158110376 J * fosco fosco@konoha.devnullteam.org
1158110541 J * kaner kaner@strace.org
1158111267 M * essobi_ Hmmm.
1158111393 Q * ensc Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1158111400 M * Bertl welcome kaner! hey essobi_!
1158111412 M * essobi_ Mmmm.. Why'd ssh on my host bind up to my ifconfiged alias instead of my vserver's ssh?
1158111466 M * essobi_ Odd.. I sshed to my guest and got my host instead..
1158111466 M * Bertl ssh/sshd?
1158111483 M * Bertl well, that is not untypical for a first try :)
1158111497 M * Bertl thing is, by default, sshd binds to _all_ ips
1158111511 M * Bertl so, while the guests are limited to certain ips
1158111526 M * Bertl the host's sshd is _not_ limited, and an bind all of them
1158111534 M * Bertl the results are:
1158111551 M * Bertl - guest sshd fails to start (some scripts report success)
1158111554 M * essobi_ Ah.. How do you tell the host only to bind to the primary?  /etc/ssh/sshd_config...
1158111568 M * Bertl you use the Listen directive in the config
1158111581 M * essobi_ roger that..
1158111593 M * Bertl ListenAddress <primary-ip>
1158111617 M * Bertl in /etc/ssh/sshd_config (usually)
1158111632 M * essobi_ Already fixed it. ;)
1158111759 M * essobi_ Thanks thou. :)
1158111781 M * Bertl my pleasure!
1158112072 M * ray6 ah, have to leave, migrating the VM I'm ircing from :)
1158112452 M * essobi_ nice
1158112490 M * ray6  03:54:38  up 473 days,  9:18    hm, acceptable :)
1158112517 M * ray6 not as good as my UMLs with >1000... but for an irc VM. No vserver though :) BBL
1158113177 J * serving ~serving@86.108.78.107
1158114398 Q * ray6 Quit: so now...
1158114811 J * brc_ ~bruce@201.19.200.37
1158115181 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p54B4FF71.dip.t-dialin.net
1158115275 Q * Johnnie Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1158115788 M * Bertl okay folks, I'm off to bed now ... have a good one everyone! cya tomorrow!
1158115822 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
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1158119958 Q * s0undt3ch hydrogen.oftc.net neutron.oftc.net
1158119958 Q * Piet hydrogen.oftc.net neutron.oftc.net
1158119958 Q * mnemoc hydrogen.oftc.net neutron.oftc.net
1158119958 Q * id23 hydrogen.oftc.net neutron.oftc.net
1158119958 Q * Adrinael hydrogen.oftc.net neutron.oftc.net
1158119958 Q * mcp hydrogen.oftc.net neutron.oftc.net
1158119958 Q * mountie hydrogen.oftc.net neutron.oftc.net
1158119958 Q * virtuoso hydrogen.oftc.net neutron.oftc.net
1158119958 Q * glut hydrogen.oftc.net neutron.oftc.net
1158119958 Q * Roey hydrogen.oftc.net neutron.oftc.net
1158119958 Q * blizz hydrogen.oftc.net neutron.oftc.net
1158119958 Q * phedny hydrogen.oftc.net neutron.oftc.net
1158119958 Q * sid3windr hydrogen.oftc.net neutron.oftc.net
1158120060 J * somegeek hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org
1158120060 J * s0undt3ch ~s0undt3ch@bl7-245-72.dsl.telepac.pt
1158120060 J * Piet hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org
1158120060 J * mnemoc ~amery@kilo105.server4you.de
1158120060 J * id23 ~id@p50813961.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
1158120060 J * Adrinael adrinael@hoasb-ff0edd00-43.dhcp.inet.fi
1158120060 J * mcp ~hightower@wolk-project.de
1158120060 J * Roey ~katz@h-69-3-4-130.mclnva23.covad.net
1158120060 J * glut glut@no.suid.pl
1158120060 J * virtuoso ~s0t0na@shisha.spb.ru
1158120060 J * sid3windr luser@bastard-operator.from-hell.be
1158120060 J * mountie ~mountie@CPEdeaddeaddead-CM000a739acaa4.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com
1158120060 J * phedny ~mark@volcano.p-bierman.nl
1158120060 J * blizz ~blizz@evilhackerdu.de
1158120460 J * Johnnie ~jdlewis@jdlewis.org
1158120554 J * cehteh ~ct@cehteh.homeunix.org
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1158126126 J * kaner kaner@strace.org
1158127911 P * nyu 
1158127933 J * meandtheshell ~markus@85-124-36-101.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at
1158128220 N * ensc ensc_
1158128281 N * ensc_ Guest199
1158128353 N * Guest199 ensc__
1158128427 N * ensc__ ensc_
1158128455 N * ensc_ ensc
1158130474 J * dna_ ~naucki@p54BCDDD8.dip.t-dialin.net
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1158131753 J * ||Cobra|| ~cob@146.50.22.204
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1158134404 J * prae ~Benjamin@5-63.206-83.static-ip.oleane.fr
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1158138593 J * mugwump ~samv@watts.utsl.gen.nz
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1158140012 J * lilalinux ~plasma@dslb-084-058-247-229.pools.arcor-ip.net
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1158140897 J * cdrx ~legoater@cap31-3-82-227-199-249.fbx.proxad.net
1158140908 M * cdrx hello
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1158141577 J * nayco ~nayco@proxy2.laroche.univ-nantes.fr
1158141584 M * nayco hello, all :-) !
1158141607 M * daniel_hozac hi nayco
1158141758 J * Johnnie ~jdlewis@jdlewis.org
1158143285 Q * Johnnie Read error: Connection reset by peer
1158143309 J * Johnnie ~jdlewis@jdlewis.org
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1158145016 J * Zaki ~Zaki@212.118.110.224
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1158145735 M * nayco  
1158145775 M * daniel_hozac heh.
1158145792 M * daniel_hozac wget http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/hexamine/hexamine-0.2.1.tar.gz?use_mirror=surfnet
1158145884 M * daniel_hozac hmm.
1158145886 M * daniel_hozac wrong desktop.
1158146551 J * Nam ~nam@S0106001195551ff0.va.shawcable.net
1158148251 M * harry anyone here?
1158148284 M * daniel_hozac every once in a while.
1158148289 M * harry aha
1158148296 M * harry q: what netmask is best to set...
1158148304 M * harry imagine: i have 2 vps'es on a /24 network
1158148309 Q * cdrx Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1158148323 M * harry do i define 24 in prefix?
1158148328 M * harry or 32?
1158148335 M * harry or no prefix?
1158148343 M * daniel_hozac always specify a prefix.
1158148359 M * harry so: 24 or 32 ?
1158148372 M * daniel_hozac does the host have an address on that network?
1158148387 M * harry the host itself?
1158148388 M * harry no
1158148431 M * harry what's the difference... why should i go for the actual netmask and why for the host-only (32)?
1158148437 J * duckx ~Duck@tox.dyndns.org
1158148457 M * daniel_hozac if the host doesn't have an address in that network, the first address added in that network will become the primary (IIRC).
1158148473 M * daniel_hozac so then you'd want /32 i guess, or give the host an IP address in that range.
1158148517 M * daniel_hozac this has been discussed to death several times though, so i suppose searching the IRC logs should give you some good instructions.
1158148547 M * harry true... but docs would be a looooooooot easier ;)
1158148617 M * daniel_hozac feel free to write some.
1158148622 M * daniel_hozac and i'm sure there are some docs on the problem.
1158148695 M * harry if i understood what this was all about, and why what happens, then i wouldn't need docs... so i'm not the person to write docs about that
1158148751 M * daniel_hozac the idea is to write the docs once you understand ;)
1158149017 J * cirrus cirrus@duempel.org
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1158149158 J * derjohn2 ~aj@dslb-084-058-198-091.pools.arcor-ip.net
1158151574 J * cdrx ~legoater@242.32.96-84.rev.gaoland.net
1158153633 J * click_ click@ti511110a080-5865.bb.online.no
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1158154706 J * node ~dwindsor@stanford.columbia.tresys.com
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1158156327 J * Vudumen ~vudumen@perverz.hu
1158158392 J * michael autobahn@IP-213157009135.dialin.heagmedianet.de
1158158393 M * michael hi
1158158399 M * doener welcome michael 
1158158515 J * dna___ ~naucki@p54BCDAE1.dip.t-dialin.net
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1158161040 J * jbd ~jbd@ip-245.net-82-216-167.joinville2.rev.numericable.fr
1158161255 M * jbd hello everybody, i'm totally new to vserver and i've got one question. Is that possible to run the moreubuntu project on a nvidia dual-head card and having glx visuals on two xorg server ? I'd like to be able to run opengl application on each xorg server
1158161280 J * stefani ~stefani@tsipoor.banerian.org
1158161292 M * jbd Today, i use Xephyr to have my mutliseat system running, but i can't have glx visuals
1158161388 M * meebey I dont think the gfx card can be shared between vservers
1158161457 M * jbd ok
1158161463 M * meebey or do you mean run 2 xservers on a gfx card with dual-head? that would be a non-vserver question but I dont think that will work either
1158161514 M * doener sharing between two vservers probably isn't a problem, but X probably won't like that kind of setup
1158161558 M * meebey you could run one xserver and share that between vservers, that should work
1158161576 M * jbd Mmmm, ok
1158161662 M * jbd thank you for your answers
1158161743 Q * jbd Quit: Quitte
1158161824 N * nokoya _nokoya
1158161828 N * _nokoya nokoya
1158161906 Q * renihs Quit: Leaving
1158162540 M * michael bye
1158162542 Q * michael Quit: michael
1158163029 M * phreak`` Bertl_zZ: doener: thanks :-)
1158163117 J * morfoh ~morfoh@e178035170.adsl.alicedsl.de
1158163121 M * morfoh moin
1158163199 M * mnemoc hi morfoh :)
1158163213 M * morfoh mnemocito ... :)
1158163421 Q * shedi Quit: Leaving
1158163918 M * matti :-)
1158163932 M * matti Anyone want some coffee?
1158163945 A * mnemoc 
1158163960 A * matti hands a cup of coffee to morfoh, enjoy.
1158163997 M * mnemoc .oO( and for me? :'( )o
1158164024 M * phedny mnemoc: you can come eat with me :p
1158164035 M * mnemoc cool :)
1158164039 M * phedny if you can be in .nl in half an hour that-is
1158164046 M * matti mnemoc: Whops.
1158164059 M * matti ;]
1158164075 A * matti hands a cup of coffee to mnemoc, enjoy.
1158164084 M * mnemoc phedny: i'll try ,-)
1158164087 M * mnemoc matti: thanks :D
1158164089 Q * prae Quit: Quitte
1158164105 M * mnemoc phedny: where on .nl?
1158164143 M * matti mnemoc: Sorry... at the first try ;p I'll blame my evil tab completion ;pppp
1158164172 M * mnemoc matti: i was about to take the cup from morfoh's hands :p
1158164242 M * matti mnemoc: LOL
1158164294 Q * stefani Read error: Connection reset by peer
1158164309 A * mnemoc needs to buy more coffee and milk
1158164324 A * matti too.
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1158165487 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1158165493 M * Bertl morning folks!
1158165582 M * mnemoc morning Bertl 
1158165595 M * Hollow morning
1158165836 M * id23 hi bertl
1158166052 Q * MrX Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1158166145 J * MrX ~urk@219.95.2.216
1158166254 M * Bertl hey mnemoc! Hollow! id23! wb MrX!
1158166260 M * MrX Thx
1158166286 M * mnemoc :)
1158166297 M * Hollow Bertl: may i request a new sql dump for the old wiki again? ;)
1158166356 M * Bertl Hollow: sure :)
1158166384 M * Hollow :)
1158166463 M * Hollow Bertl: i'd also like to re-request the remaining syscalls to retrieve information in cvirt (nr_*, uptime, etc)
1158166489 M * Hollow we could reimplement vstatd with all new syscalls then
1158166579 M * morfoh matti: thanks for the coffee :)
1158166696 J * stefani ~stefani@tsipoor.banerian.org
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1158166877 M * morfoh phedny: be warned! this mnemoc can eat a lot ... so be prepared :)
1158166926 M * morfoh phedny: and the sad thing is he can#t even cook
1158166928 J * somegeek hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org
1158167227 M * Bertl welcome stefani! wb somegeek!
1158167412 M * matti morfoh: No problem :)
1158167414 M * matti Bertl: :)
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1158167430 M * morfoh matti: :)
1158167472 M * matti UK is really nice. I manage to order and pay for symetric DSL link, and I am not even there yet ;-p
1158167477 M * matti Hehehe, so kinky ;p
1158167485 A * morfoh is greeting Bertl, Hollow, id23, MrX and the rest around here :)
1158167505 A * Hollow waves
1158167534 J * somegeek hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org
1158167535 A * matti blinks... to Hollow.
1158167536 M * matti ;ppp
1158167546 M * morfoh :)
1158167549 A * Hollow waves again
1158167550 M * Hollow ;)
1158167561 A * morfoh waves too
1158167584 A * matti blinks again
1158167585 M * matti ;]
1158167588 M * matti ;-p
1158167588 M * matti Hehehe.
1158167651 M * Hollow too much smiling, greeting and waving in here
1158167653 M * Hollow ;)
1158167771 M * matti k. We can speak about some geeky things ;p
1158167788 M * matti For example: how is you brand new dual core opteron?
1158167788 M * matti ;p
1158167796 M * matti ;p
1158167854 M * Hollow matti: super-fast ;)
1158167889 M * matti Hollow: :)
1158167903 M * matti Hollow: You need to watch "IT Crowd" series ;]
1158167914 M * SNy Hehe. Indeed.
1158167922 M * Hollow heh, i have the first season right on /dev/vg/movies
1158167923 M * Hollow ;)
1158167929 M * SNy "Hello IT. Have you tried turning it off and on again?"
1158167958 M * matti SNy: "You do know how to buttons work, don't ya?"
1158167958 M * matti ;p
1158167970 A * Hollow giggles
1158168001 M * SNy "Subject: Fire" "Fire exclamation mark Fire exclamation mark Help Me exclamation mark"
1158168009 M * SNy d;
1158168015 M * matti SNy: Looking forward to hear from you - Morris Moss.
1158168015 M * SNy Totally awesome.
1158168016 M * matti ;p
1158168018 M * matti SNy: Indeed.
1158168018 M * matti ;]
1158168101 M * SNy Best one is "There is... shit... on your head." though.
1158168112 M * SNy I literally was rolling on the floor there.
1158168115 M * matti Hehehe.
1158168161 M * matti My favorite is, then Moss belives for a second, that the "Answering Machine" was broken, and they need back to work again ;p
1158168166 M * matti s/then/when/
1158168168 M * matti Heheheh.
1158168193 M * matti BTW: http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/The_IT_Crowd
1158168193 M * matti ;p
1158168358 J * dreamind ~dreamind@C2107.campino.wh.tu-darmstadt.de
1158168399 M * kaner Ow. Four! I mean, five! I mean, fire!
1158168410 M * matti ;)
1158168430 M * SNy Hehe.
1158168469 M * SNy "Let's see, it is off, so I... switch it on... and move away from it."
1158168498 M * matti :>
1158168556 M * gdm matti: you are moving to uk?
1158168581 M * matti Yes.
1158168598 M * gdm ahh, kool :)
1158168600 M * matti Why? :)
1158168623 M * gdm nice place ;-)
1158168653 A * kir is away: Gone home
1158168800 M * dreamind Hi folks :)
1158168872 M * dreamind can somebody tell me if its possible to mount -o rw --bind a directory from one vserver to another and use the unix domain sockets across 2 vservers?
1158168892 M * dreamind I'm thinking about this for being able to use unix domain sockets for mysql and postgresql across 2 vservers :)
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1158169146 M * doener hm, how would I get all but the first X lines of a file? head and tail can do all but that (or I'm too stupid to combine them the right way)
1158169311 M * doener hm, wc -l + using my brain to do math should do the trick
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1158170293 J * shedi ~siggi@inferno.lhi.is
1158170498 J * morfoh_ ~morfoh@e178060023.adsl.alicedsl.de
1158170548 M * Bertl doener: sed is your friend
1158170646 M * doener Bertl: I never used more than the s/foo/bar/ stuff of sed... tried to learn more a few times but got bored :/
1158170656 M * Hollow heh, indeed
1158170669 M * Hollow Bertl: did you read my second request?
1158170693 M * dreamind Bertl: hi :)
1158170722 M * ex doener: awk 'NR>1 {print}'
1158170729 M * dreamind hm, nobody an idea if what I intend is possible? (I've not yet tried to do so)
1158170740 M * Bertl seq 1 100 | sed -n '1,20 d;p'
1158170776 M * doener tx
1158170801 M * Hollow dinner time, bbl
1158170801 M * Bertl Hollow: yep, will address that soon
1158170804 M * Hollow ok, tahnks :)
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1158171056 J * comfrey ~comfrey@c-24-21-132-252.hsd1.mn.comcast.net
1158171075 J * somegeek hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org
1158171201 M * dreamind bye :)
1158171213 Q * dreamind Quit: dreamind
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1158171921 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p54B4FF71.dip.t-dialin.net
1158172712 J * bonbons ~bonbons@83.222.36.111
1158172827 M * Bertl welcome bonbons! wb ensc!
1158172828 M * matti daniel_hozac: Can you point me to patches for "onwner module" I lost link somewhere :<
1158172847 M * matti s/onwner/owner/
1158172849 M * matti Bertl: Hello ;]
1158173993 M * daniel_hozac matti: http://people.linux-vserver.org/~dhozac/p/k/delta-owner-xid-feat02.diff http://people.linux-vserver.org/~dhozac/p/m/iptables-1.3.5-owner-xid.patch
1158174002 M * matti Thanks.
1158174086 M * Bertl hey matti! :]
1158174097 M * matti :)
1158175794 J * morfoh ~morfoh@e178035189.adsl.alicedsl.de
1158175847 Q * morfoh 
1158175868 J * morfoh ~morfoh@e178035189.adsl.alicedsl.de
1158175890 M * Bertl wb morfoh!
1158175978 Q * morfoh 
1158175990 J * morfoh ~morfoh@e178035189.adsl.alicedsl.de
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1158177419 J * brc_ ~bruce@201.19.200.37
1158177567 J * morfoh ~morfoh@kilo105.server4you.de
1158177577 M * morfoh re hi :)
1158177588 M * mnemoc wb morfoh :)
1158177596 M * morfoh thx mnemocito :)
1158177618 A * morfoh slaps da f* alice
1158177639 M * mnemoc :)
1158177650 A * morfoh slaps mnemoc too :p
1158177656 M * morfoh :)
1158177676 M * morfoh mnemoc: think ... I still have da hammer on my desk
1158177760 M * mnemoc don't forget it's made of glass
1158177794 M * morfoh mnemoc: you know that I will never hammer on my desk ... :)
1158177815 M * mnemoc :)
1158179085 P * click_ [IRSSI]
1158179191 J * click click@ti511110a080-5865.bb.online.no
1158179721 M * Hollow morfoh: alice is really awful right?
1158179735 J * cdrx ~legoater@cap31-3-82-227-199-249.fbx.proxad.net
1158179764 M * morfoh Hollow: it depends
1158179780 M * morfoh Hollow: I think we have problems here because of a f* S*emens modem
1158179797 M * morfoh it seems to be a quite new  ADSL2+ 
1158179803 M * Hollow well, i'm moving to berlin soon, and need a new dsl line, and i a friend of mine also has alice, and lots of problems too
1158179806 M * morfoh and it gets too hot
1158179817 M * morfoh yeah
1158179826 M * morfoh and the service is *HORROR*
1158179838 M * morfoh on the day we switched I phoned 9h
1158179841 M * Hollow i think i will try versatel
1158179842 M * morfoh with the hotline
1158179849 M * Hollow bah :)
1158179856 M * morfoh that was brainwash
1158179863 M * morfoh 7sec jingle
1158179867 M * morfoh all the time
1158179875 M * morfoh with the fance alice voice
1158179879 M * mnemoc i still can 'hear' that voice
1158179883 M * Hollow hehe
1158179890 M * morfoh I really get agro
1158179900 M * morfoh if I think back on that day
1158179936 M * morfoh Hollow: they tried to force me all the time to call their "experts"
1158179945 M * Hollow well, all TDSL + resellers are no-go anyway, alice is aweful... i think arcor is not the best choice either.. so i'm actually left with freenet which is not available, or QSC which has no adsl2+
1158179945 M * morfoh which costs money 
1158179965 M * Hollow i.e. only versatel is left :)
1158179969 M * morfoh puhh ... indeed
1158179980 M * morfoh there are bad stories about them too
1158179995 A * morfoh thinks it's time for more free networks
1158180007 M * morfoh f* bastard providers
1158180011 M * morfoh sorry
1158180018 M * Hollow yeah, i guess too... but formerly versatel was berlikomm (at least in berlin) so i hope they have quite a good infrastrucure
1158180029 M * morfoh they have!
1158180032 M * morfoh that's for sure
1158180059 M * morfoh but I was connected through berlikomm with my old office
1158180063 M * morfoh and it was a pain
1158180092 M * morfoh we had two lines ... one ADSL from berlikomm and one SDSL from QSC
1158180112 M * Hollow eventually it is the decision for the lesser evil ;)
1158180121 M * morfoh yeah ... maybe
1158180126 M * morfoh try it :)
1158180135 M * morfoh Hollow: when you'll move finally ?
1158180143 M * Hollow i'll do... at least 20MBit adsl2+ sounds nice, so i'll go for that :)
1158180146 M * Hollow on monday
1158180154 M * morfoh you should order quick
1158180160 M * Hollow i know.. 4 weeks
1158180161 M * Hollow bah
1158180163 M * morfoh they need a _lot_ of time
1158180169 M * morfoh even more
1158180188 M * morfoh in the case of alice they said 4 weeks and I had to 2 month
1158180194 M * Hollow i hope one of my neighboors has wlan, and let's me in for a small fee ;)
1158180214 M * morfoh after 4 weeks + 2 days I asked and they said there is no order from me
1158180234 M * morfoh Hollow: yeah ... try the WLAN option
1158180250 M * morfoh *POWER* *TO* *THE* *PEOPLE* :)
1158180296 J * yarihm ~yarihm@84-75-123-221.dclient.hispeed.ch
1158180314 Q * meandtheshell Quit: bye bye ... 
1158180331 M * morfoh Hollow: you could also check if their is a freifunk hotspot nearby ?
1158180370 M * morfoh Hollow: what part of berlin you're living then ?
1158180385 M * Hollow wilmersdorf
1158180390 M * morfoh ouch :)
1158180391 M * Hollow are you located in berlin too?
1158180406 M * morfoh if I be honest mnemoc is 2m away :p
1158180413 M * morfoh so yes
1158180420 M * morfoh :)
1158180428 M * Hollow ok, didn't know mnemoc is from berlin too :)
1158180430 A * Hollow winks
1158180450 M * mnemoc *G*
1158180450 M * Hollow http://home.xnull.de/misc/wohnung-google-earth.jpg
1158180451 M * morfoh yeah ... he moved from chile to berlin in march
1158180452 M * Hollow ;)
1158180519 A * mnemoc will have to play with google-earth some day
1158180519 M * morfoh Hollow: so you're going to study at FU ... 
1158180524 M * Hollow yep
1158180538 M * morfoh ic :)
1158180560 M * morfoh hahah
1158180564 M * morfoh Am Volkspark :)
1158180579 M * Hollow got my immatrikulationsbescheinigung today :)
1158180593 A * morfoh lived in Badensche Str some years before :)
1158180616 M * Hollow so.. why did you say ouch for wilmersdorf? ;)
1158180631 M * mnemoc :)
1158180636 M * morfoh hmmm ... yeah ... Wilmerdorf is big :p
1158180645 M * morfoh but this corner is quite nice
1158180646 M * Wonka hrhr
1158180658 M * Wonka #freifunk has many guys from berlin, afaik
1158180663 M * morfoh yep
1158180666 M * SNy Suprise.
1158180668 M * Hollow yeah, i guess so too, better than neukölln or sth like that :P
1158180679 M * morfoh Hollow: why ? :p
1158180691 A * Hollow giggles
1158180695 M * morfoh :D
1158180745 M * morfoh Hollow: but perhaps you'll have no luck with your WLAN plan ... I doubt that all those granny's living there hav WLAN :)
1158180787 M * Hollow probably.. but well, i can still go to sony center once in a while :)
1158180801 M * morfoh good journey :p
1158180804 M * morfoh :D
1158180848 M * Hollow ha.. semesterticket is the best invention ever... nothing similar in munich
1158180857 M * Hollow and it's so f*cking cheap
1158180878 M * mnemoc compare to the single ticket, yeah... sure :)
1158180883 M * mnemoc compared*
1158180884 M * Hollow you'd pay approx 6 times as much in munich
1158180890 M * mnemoc o.o
1158180900 M * morfoh Hollow: where is that city you mentioned ? :p
1158180903 M * morfoh in germany ?
1158180908 A * morfoh hides
1158180964 A * morfoh liked the times when he had to 23 DM for a monthly ticket 
1158180969 M * morfoh pay
1158181130 M * Hollow sorry, phone call... well, let me look and i tell you what it would cost
1158181305 M * Hollow ok, i lied a bit, it would cost 4 times as much... 402EUR for 6 monthly cards to TU München
1158181318 M * Hollow but this does not include the whole net
1158181342 M * Hollow 6 monthly cards for the whole net would cost 708EUR
1158181357 M * Hollow compared to 120EUR for the ticket in berlin, this is just ridiculous
1158181383 M * morfoh yyup
1158181406 M * morfoh mnemoc: is a shell server suckin' ?
1158181410 M * morfoh da
1158181417 M * Hollow i guess it's cheaper to drive by car in munich :P
1158181420 M * doener Hollow: http://semesterticket-bielefeld.de/text.html#Geltungsbereich -- nice coverage area :)
1158181447 M * Hollow doener: yeah, i know in the ruhrpott it's even nicer..
1158181519 M * doener Hollow: hm, a friend of mine studies in Dortmund, he may only drive from his home to university and back
1158181548 M * Hollow really? i knew quite a bunch of people from that area who all had quite good tickets as well
1158181565 M * Hollow anyway, munich is the most expensive in everything
1158181568 M * Hollow just aweful
1158181592 M * Hollow your nick reminds that even doener is half the price in berlin :D
1158181609 M * doener yeah, I remember that radio that had this event where people had to live in kid's playhouses for some weeks to get an apartment in munich for free 
1158181641 M * doener I thought it was pretty insane how many people applied for that stuff...
1158181799 M * Hollow a friend of mine searched for 4 months to get an appartement
1158181865 M * doener ouch
1158181880 M * Hollow simply insane over here :)
1158182700 M * meebey Hollow: half the price? rotten meat makes it possible :)
1158182752 M * Hollow hehehehehe.
1158182790 M * Hollow my mom works in the regierung von oberbayern, in the same departement (although she is responsible for pharam and stuff) but lot of funny stories were already told at our dinners :D
1158182801 M * Hollow *pharma
1158182971 M * Hollow meebey: last week the head of department was shouted at by the president and got a coronary.. wtf :D
1158183000 M * meebey oh dear
1158183016 J * Aiken ~james@tooax8-101.dialup.optusnet.com.au
1158183264 M * Bertl welcome Aiken!
1158183373 M * Aiken good morning Bertl
1158183405 M * Aiken got the ultra 5, still waiting to see if I get a 10 as well
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1158190086 P * stefani I'm Parting (the water)