1157395695 M * Hollow ok, will do 1157395705 M * daniel_hozac bonbons: that hasn't been handled yet, i think. 1157395715 M * daniel_hozac bonbons: the idea is to readd STATE_ADMIN when the last process exits. 1157396306 M * Pazzo OK, now I'm really gonna go... have a good night! 1157396311 M * Skram peace 1157396343 M * bonbons daniel_hozac: ok, just need to take really care at context creation.. 1157396354 M * daniel_hozac indeed. 1157396366 Q * Pazzo Quit: ... 1157396395 J * ntrs__ ~ntrs@68-188-51-87.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com 1157396408 Q * ntrs_ Read error: Connection reset by peer 1157396708 M * bonbons especially with old tools that know nothing about STATE_ADMIN you end up with empty contexts you can't do anything with 1157396730 M * daniel_hozac only if you use vc_ctx_create v1 ;) 1157396741 M * daniel_hozac v0 uses teh default set, which includes STATE_ADMIN. 1157396976 M * Bertl Hollow: hum .. Internal Server Error 1157396988 M * Bertl Please contact the server administrator, root@localhost 1157397017 M * Bertl http://linux-vserver.org/ 1157397083 M * Hollow did you change dns records already? 1157397092 M * Bertl yup 1157397094 M * Hollow argh 1157397101 M * Hollow i never told you i'm ready 1157397115 M * Bertl hmm, then I got that one wrong ... 1157397130 M * Bertl 20:36 < Bertl> shall we put it online now? 1157397135 M * Hollow [20:41] Bertl: the map should be ready, but i don't have the rewrite rules 1157397137 M * Bertl 20:38 < Hollow> yep, we can leave it as-is, i'm ok with it (even if i still 1157397166 M * Bertl shall I reset it to the old values? 1157397172 M * Hollow please do so 1157397238 M * Bertl okay, you should definitely set up the apache to provide reasonable admin info 1157397366 M * Hollow done.. ;) 1157397683 M * Hollow can you upload an up to date sql dump of the current wiki to helios? 1157397708 M * Bertl should be able to ... sec 1157397747 J * ntrs_ ~ntrs@68-188-51-87.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com 1157397747 Q * ntrs__ Read error: Connection reset by peer 1157398127 M * matti lvs -n -ao RSS,VSZ 1157398127 Q * ntrs_ Read error: Connection reset by peer 1157398129 M * matti Ops. 1157398133 J * ntrs_ ~ntrs@68-188-51-87.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com 1157398257 M * Hollow ok, the redirection logic works, and a global notice was added to http://oldwiki.linux-vserver.org/ 1157398296 M * matti I've made some very little tools for me. I'll release them later ;] 1157398304 M * matti lvs - list vserver, and so on ;] 1157398339 M * matti Maybe they will be handle for somebody. 1157398435 M * Bertl Hollow: mysql dump has been uploaded 1157398536 M * matti Uh. 1157398702 Q * sladen Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1157399055 J * sladen paul@starsky.19inch.net 1157400449 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1157400867 M * Hollow Bertl: you can change the dns records now, everything should be in place... please also update the MX record 1157400960 J * ntrs__ ~ntrs@68-188-51-87.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com 1157400960 Q * ntrs_ Read error: Connection reset by peer 1157401111 M * Bertl okay, mx to which hip? 1157401114 M * Bertl *ip 1157401118 M * Hollow 85.10.237.61 1157401130 M * Hollow but not the list.* mx of course ;) 1157401159 M * Bertl hehe 1157401216 M * Hollow Bertl, daniel_hozac, doener, derjohn: just as a reminder, if you don't want to use pop3/imap on helios please configure ~/.forward 1157401297 M * derjohn Hollow, kk 1157401334 M * ruskie hmmm ok I'v just made my first test vserver now I'd like to get rid of it... what must I do... I'm guessing need to set/unset some stuff using the setattr app but no clue which ones before a rm -rf will work on it... 1157401355 M * doener Hollow: how to use imap there? does that support pubkey auth as well? 1157401363 A * doener has not that much of an idea about imap 1157401449 M * Hollow good question... 1157401536 Q * meandtheshell Quit: bye bye ... 1157401552 M * derjohn ruskie, vserver bla stop ; rm -rf /var&lib/vserver/bla ; rm -rf /erc/vservers/bla 1157401569 M * derjohn ruskie, (at least thoese are the pathes in debian. YMMV.) 1157401574 M * ruskie yeah figured it out :) seems I was mistyping the path :) 1157401598 M * ruskie well we allow a bit more freedom to our users(source mage) 1157401614 M * ruskie hmm are the various init styles documented anywhere? 1157401676 M * derjohn ruskie, there is old (plain) and new style (dirs) 1157401713 M * ruskie and to what style does that acctually conform? 1157401716 M * derjohn for all the options look for the "great flower page" 1157401721 M * ruskie hmm 1157401723 M * derjohn (-> google, vserver wiki) 1157401737 M * ruskie already there :) 1157401816 M * ruskie hmm so basicaly I need to define the init scripts outside the guest? 1157401829 M * Bertl ruskie: sysv and plain is supported right now, maybe gentoo and/or bsd will be added at some point 1157401856 M * ruskie we use none of the above :) 1157401858 M * Bertl ruskie: the 'plain' init style starts 'init' inside the guest as on a normal system 1157401865 M * ruskie ahh 1157401869 M * ruskie ok that's good enough for me 1157401885 M * Bertl ruskie: the 'sysv' init style 'jsut' executes the runlevel scripts _inside_ the guest 1157401891 M * Bertl (no init is started inside) 1157401903 M * ruskie how about the minit? 1157401921 A * mnemoc use runit without any trouble 1157401937 M * derjohn ruskie, LART me! I read "config style" , not "init style" 1157401943 M * ruskie derjohn, lol 1157401956 A * derjohn runs "monit" to keep processes "up" 1157401962 A * ruskie to 1157401963 M * ruskie :) 1157401972 M * ruskie though I'm thinking of switching to runit eventually 1157401981 M * derjohn monit worls well inside guests, too 1157401986 M * ruskie I disilke MOST of the current inits and arbitrary runlevels 1157402002 M * derjohn ruskie, pls write a howto on vserver wiki when you did it, tia ! 1157402006 M * Bertl well, then the sysv is your best choice, no init at all :) 1157402020 M * ruskie Bertl, I'm sticking with simpleinit-msb for now :) 1157402026 M * ruskie since we have init scripts for that :) 1157402043 M * ruskie we don't have any "common" init dir structure :) 1157402060 M * ruskie so plain it is 1157402071 A * ruskie builds a skeleton 1157402114 M * Loki|muh do you just change the homepage? www.linux-vserver.org does not look very well for me... 1157402136 M * ruskie looks ok here 1157402161 M * Loki|muh shows for me a "Index of /" 1157402216 M * Loki|muh linux-vserver.org redirects me to the wiki 1157402237 M * derjohn Loki|muh, which wiki? 1157402249 M * derjohn here everything is "in butter" 1157402254 M * Loki|muh http://wiki.linux-vserver.org/Announcements/20060903 1157402450 M * derjohn Loki|muh, what is the problem? 1157402454 M * ruskie I take it the only thing I need to get vserver working other than build it is populate it(from a chroot perhaps?) 1157402480 M * derjohn ruskie, chroot laks probably the device nodes 1157402493 M * ruskie it has them all :) 1157402494 M * derjohn ruskie, do a vserver bla build -m skeleton 1157402502 M * ruskie and yeas I did a -m skeleton :) 1157402505 M * derjohn then you can "copy in" a chroot 1157402509 M * derjohn ruskie, on debian? 1157402521 M * ruskie no 1157402523 M * ruskie source mage :) 1157402524 M * derjohn ruskie, if so: apt-get install debootstrap ; 1157402529 M * derjohn ruskie, gentoo? 1157402536 M * ruskie source mage :) 1157402538 M * derjohn ruskie, LVS ? 1157402549 M * derjohn ruskie: I give up :) 1157402562 M * ruskie www.sourcemage.org 1157402567 M * derjohn oh ;) 1157402570 M * ruskie lol 1157402575 M * doener website is broken for me as well :( 1157402587 M * derjohn doener, what is the "broken" part? 1157402607 M * ruskie and the devices in it ought to be udev managed anyway :) 1157402619 M * derjohn it = guest ? 1157402622 M * ruskie yup 1157402623 M * doener l-v.org redirects to wiki.l-v.org resulting in a "Not Found", wiki.l-v.org gets me a "Forbidden", www.l-v.org gets me an "Index of /" 1157402624 M * derjohn that wont work 1157402625 M * Loki|muh derjohn: http://malind.de/indexof.png - not really a problem because I know wiki.linux-vserver.org 1157402627 M * ruskie hmm 1157402644 M * ruskie any particular reason why? 1157402647 M * doener oh, now wiki.l-v.org also gets me an Index of 1157402660 M * ruskie <-- isn't a fan of udev anyway but need it for a little project atm 1157402681 M * Loki|muh ah now I get a message that migration is now done... 1157402694 M * Loki|muh maybe we shall just wait a couple of minutes ;) 1157402701 M * ruskie personaly I use static /dev :) 1157402704 M * derjohn well, not the stylesheet is gone and foo. 1157402738 M * derjohn ruskie, I a guest we usually forbid to create device nodes 1157402746 M * ruskie hmm 1157402750 M * ruskie can that be changed? 1157402790 M * derjohn ruskie, you can enable it by adding the capybility to the guest. but keep in mind addind "hda" will enable the guest to dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda 1157402803 M * derjohn ruskie, usually you dont need devices nodes, why would you ? 1157402821 M * ruskie derjohn, making a setup to generate a live-cd for a specific purpose 1157402838 M * derjohn ruskie, a live-cd with vserver on it? 1157402848 M * derjohn any why should be guest have dev nodes then=? 1157402851 M * ruskie I might do that 1157402869 M * ruskie but this is for a pure live-cd atm 1157402872 M * ruskie no vserver on it 1157402874 M * derjohn or do you just want to burn from within a guest? 1157402915 M * ruskie no I want to use the guest to prepare everything for the live-cd and generate the iso from the guest 1157402925 M * ruskie and to test stuff of course 1157403161 M * derjohn ruskie, uff. syslinux to boot? 1157403186 M * ruskie that will be at the end when I fix up everything else :) 1157403187 M * derjohn ruskie, that beyond the scope of my knowledge... el burrito foobar ... 1157403195 M * ruskie I first need to modify the init scripts etc :) 1157403222 M * derjohn ruskie, IMVVVHO you should go for qemu ... 1157403229 M * derjohn ruskie, there you cen test better 1157403238 M * ruskie the syslinux and the rest will be added by a script taht uses the active system to generate the iso :) 1157403248 M * ruskie I'll be testing the cd via a cd-rw :) 1157403290 M * ruskie and no I won't be testing the iso via vserver :) 1157403299 M * ruskie I just need it's capabilities :) 1157403329 M * derjohn create a file "bcapabilities" and write all capas in you need 1157403339 M * ruskie in the config dir? 1157403340 M * derjohn (within the guest config dir) 1157403346 M * derjohn and then restart the guest 1157403354 M * ruskie I haven't started it yet :) 1157403363 A * Belu is away (i�ll be back later...) 1157403364 N * Belu Belu_zZz 1157403575 J * yarihm ~yarihm@84-75-123-221.dclient.hispeed.ch 1157403683 Q * lilalinux Remote host closed the connection 1157403926 Q * cdrx Quit: Leaving 1157404686 J * Aiken ~james@tooax6-121.dialup.optusnet.com.au 1157404705 T * Hollow http://linux-vserver.org/ <- new and shiny | latest stable 2.02, 1.2.10, 1.2.11-rc1, devel 2.1.0, exp 2.1.1-rc31, stable+grsec 2.0.2 | util-vserver-0.30.210 | libvserver-1.0.2 & vserver-utils-1.0.3 | He who asks a question is a fool for a minute; he who doesn't ask is a fool for a lifetime -- share the gained knowledge on the wiki, and we'll forget about the minute ;) 1157404723 M * Loki|muh Hollow: http://www.linux-vserver.org/ <-- not working :( 1157404750 M * Loki|muh Hollow: but http://linux-vserver.org/ is nice :) 1157404753 M * Hollow Loki|muh: now it does :) 1157404765 M * Loki|muh great :) 1157404795 Q * ntrs__ Remote host closed the connection 1157405308 M * matti I am walkin' in sunshine... a-a-a... 1157405877 M * mnemoc Hollow: no 2.0.2 on the news? 1157405884 M * Hollow sure 1157405894 M * Hollow http://wiki.linux-vserver.org/Announcements/20060903 1157405954 M * mnemoc but not on the frontpage "lastests news" 1157405969 M * Hollow 03 Sep 2006 1157405969 M * Hollow Linux-VServer project Announces New Stable Release and New Website 1157406375 J * ebiederm ~eric@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com 1157406433 M * mnemoc Hollow: :p 1157406437 M * mnemoc Hollow: sorry 1157406448 M * Hollow :) 1157407122 Q * dna Quit: Verlassend 1157407256 M * mnemoc Hollow: OT: so you will go to Adlershof ? 1157407419 M * Hollow to what? 1157407443 M * ebiederm Bertl: Have you checked out the namespace patches that are sitting in -mm yet? 1157407470 M * mnemoc Hollow: study :p 1157407548 M * mnemoc just curious, but don't feel forced to answer :) 1157407562 M * Hollow hm, i'm still not sure what you are asking :) 1157407571 M * Hollow what is adlershof? 1157407596 M * mnemoc uhm... i got the idea frm the pictures you showed some days ago 1157407606 M * mnemoc it's a campus of Humbolt 1157407633 M * Hollow ah no... i study at Freie Universität 1157407646 M * mnemoc ah :) 1157407668 M * mnemoc FOO 1157407709 M * Hollow but it is really nice there... very green around, just like they'd build it in a park :D 1157407751 M * mnemoc :) 1157408017 M * Hollow but not enough... even our appartment is in/at a park ;) http://home.xnull.de/misc/wohnung-google-earth.jpg 1157408039 M * mnemoc *click* 1157408053 M * Hollow i'm very pleased with the whole situation :D 1157408170 M * mnemoc i was living 'close' to there.... at Friedenau some months ago 1157408198 M * Hollow ah, yep.. south-west of berlin is really nice 1157408250 Q * Loki|muh Remote host closed the connection 1157408252 M * mnemoc yep 1157408282 M * Hollow much green, relatively quiet, but still in the city 1157408298 J * Loki|muh loki@satanix.de 1157408317 M * Hollow and public transport is just awesome 1157408419 M * mnemoc it's incredibly... expensive :\ 1157408447 M * Hollow lol... did you ever use public transport in munich? 1157408454 M * Hollow _that's_ expensive 1157408458 M * mnemoc i have not ahd the pleasure :) 1157408468 M * Hollow and unreliable 1157408492 M * Hollow and does not bring you home during the nights 1157408495 M * Hollow bah bah bah 1157408499 A * cehteh once took a flight from hamburg to munich 1157408504 M * cehteh 50 min flight .... 1157408511 M * Hollow and one hour sbahn 1157408512 M * Hollow hahaha 1157408529 M * cehteh 50 min to get from the munic airport to munich center by train 1157408530 M * cehteh ;) 1157408573 M * Hollow well, they plan a transrapid from the airport to the center (since years thought, and no deicision yet) 1157408602 M * cehteh isnt transrapid invented by prussia? 1157408643 M * Hollow not sure, but i thought siemens was one of the main actors of the transrapid development 1157408701 M * Hollow and wikipedia confirms that :) 1157408756 M * cehteh but tested in emsland 1157408833 M * cehteh mhm i fucked up my network .. cant connect / dont get name resolution 1157409485 Q * yarihm Quit: Leaving 1157410693 Q * cehteh Quit: Terminated with extreme prejudice - dircproxy 1.0.5 1157411216 J * cehteh ~ct@cehteh.homeunix.org 1157411748 M * Bertl okay folks, I'm off to bed now .. have a good whatever everyone! cya tomorrow! 1157411767 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1157412895 J * _Hunger Hunger.hu@213.163.11.138 1157412991 Q * Hunger Ping timeout: 480 seconds