1157242688 M * Alissa daniel_hozac what is this error? => http://phpfi.com/148172 1157242850 Q * Alissa 1157244663 M * matti LOL 1157244693 M * matti I finally found photos from my work ;] 1157247430 J * mire ~mire@171-167-222-85.COOL.ADSL.VLine.verat.net 1157252853 Q * coocoon Quit: KVIrc 3.2.0 'Realia' 1157252902 Q * olilo Quit: bbiab 1157253456 J * FireEgl FireEgl@2001:5c0:84dc:1:4:: 1157254127 J * olilo hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org 1157257742 J * FEN_HIN ~JFOC@202.47.70.115 1157259182 A * FEN_HIN is back from away since 24mins 46secs ago 1157262048 Q * id23 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1157262652 J * id23 ~id@p50810DA3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1157264059 J * dna ~naucki@183-251-dsl.kielnet.net 1157270769 J * Viper0482 ~Viper0482@p54977DBA.dip.t-dialin.net 1157271178 J * FEN_HIN_ ~JFOC@202.47.70.115 1157271199 P * Viper0482 und weg 1157271419 Q * FEN_HIN Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1157271603 N * FEN_HIN_ FEN_HIN 1157271751 Q * dna Quit: Verlassend 1157275082 N * Belu_zZz Belu 1157279166 J * bonbons ~bonbons@83.222.36.236 1157283071 J * coocoon ~coocoon@p54A06605.dip.t-dialin.net 1157287791 J * lolilol hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org 1157287810 Q * olilo Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1157289679 M * matti :) 1157290622 M * FEN_HIN ?¿?¿?¿?¿?¿?¿?¿ 1157290767 Q * FireEgl Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1157291172 M * DreamerC ? 1157291207 Q * lolilol Remote host closed the connection 1157291288 M * FEN_HIN why so quite ? 1157291300 J * olilo hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org 1157291498 M * daniel_hozac probably because no one has anything to say :) 1157291556 M * FEN_HIN and let start to say hellow 1157291557 M * FEN_HIN :) 1157292238 M * matti Hello. 1157292250 M * matti daniel_hozac: Hi. 1157292270 M * daniel_hozac hi matti 1157292953 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1157292957 M * Bertl morning folks! 1157293040 J * FireEgl FireEgl@Sebastian.Atlantica.US 1157293088 M * FEN_HIN morning Bertl 1157293966 J * Alissa atnuzdmxqo@151.81.3.83 1157294083 M * Bertl wb Alissa! 1157294095 M * Alissa Bertl ! :D 1157294100 M * Alissa how are you? ^^ 1157294116 M * matti Hi Bertl. 1157294130 M * doener Alissa: are you by chance using v_ssh? 1157294162 M * Alissa doener no, sorry ^^" 1157294201 M * Alissa uhmmm 1157294221 M * doener hm, I just wondered about the -EPERM 1157294317 M * Alissa uffff, the net doesn't work... 1157294319 M * Alissa :/ 1157294387 M * Bertl do we have a testme.sh output somewhere? 1157294432 M * Alissa Bertl I not have... sorry 1157294490 M * Bertl http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/SCRIPT/testme.sh 1157294505 M * Bertl and upload the complete output to paste.linux-vserver.org please 1157294537 M * doener Bertl: any progress with demystifying the mysql issues? 1157294555 M * Bertl nah, didn't find time to look into it 1157294592 M * Bertl got DSL on the second location yesterday, had to 'rework' the 'modem' to become a 'router' :) 1157294646 M * doener heh 1157294826 M * Alissa Bertl http://paste.linux-vserver.org/329 :) 1157294932 M * Alissa any test was succefful... 1157295218 M * Alissa gentoo guest work only Fedora core server host? 1157295263 M * daniel_hozac no, the only relation between the host and the guests you can run is the amount of effort you need to install it. 1157295289 M * Alissa ? 1157295295 M * Alissa sorry, I not understand... 1157295313 M * Alissa explained better please :) 1157295367 M * daniel_hozac you can run pretty much any guest distribution on any host distribution, it will just be harder to install say an RPM-based guest on a Debian-based host. 1157295436 M * Alissa I have a fedora host, i can run correctly debian guest, suse guest, mandrake guest, etc. Gentoo guest not work the net :( 1157295447 M * Alissa I not understand thw why... 1157295449 M * Alissa :( 1157295481 Q * id23 Remote host closed the connection 1157295858 M * Bertl Alissa: that's on x86_64 with 64bit libs ... did you use dietlibc for the tools? 1157295862 J * lilalinux ~plasma@dslb-084-058-213-137.pools.arcor-ip.net 1157295986 M * Alissa Bertl I believe of him. How can I check? (I don't sincerely remember) 1157296058 M * daniel_hozac vserver-info 1157296059 M * Bertl k, let's add the output of 'vserver-info - SYSINFO' to the pastebin too 1157296097 M * daniel_hozac and my test box (FC5 i686) runs a Gentoo guest just fine. 1157296135 M * Alissa uhmm 1157296137 M * Alissa http://paste.linux-vserver.org/330 1157296155 M * daniel_hozac (you have been warned) 1157296161 M * Bertl okay, let's try with dietlibc :) 1157296177 M * Alissa uhmm 1157296182 M * Alissa exist a rpm of this? 1157296194 M * daniel_hozac yes, it's in Extras. 1157296208 J * dna ~naucki@149-215-dsl.kielnet.net 1157296215 M * Bertl wb dna! 1157296222 M * dna hi 1157296224 M * daniel_hozac FYI, there are RPMs of util-vserver in Extras too, as well as the ones i compile. 1157296314 M * Alissa daniel_hozac rpmfind.net not have this in extra's :( 1157296314 M * Alissa ==> TYPE I ... done. ==> CWD /linux/fedora/extras/5/x86_64 ... 1157296315 M * Alissa No such directory `linux/fedora/extras/5/x86_64'. 1157296332 M * Bertl try pbone.net 1157296358 M * Alissa Bertl you is a my personal GOD :D 1157296363 M * daniel_hozac or, you know, the original location. 1157296369 M * Alissa (cit. Matrix) 1157296387 M * matti Alissa: ;p 1157296395 M * matti Alissa: Live some part of Bertl to us. 1157296396 M * matti ;p 1157296400 M * daniel_hozac http://redhat.download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/extras/5/x86_64/ 1157296404 M * matti s/Live/Leave/ 1157296405 M * matti heheh. 1157296409 M * Alissa matti see the white rabbit ^^ 1157296548 M * Bertl knock, knock 1157296581 M * matti ;] 1157296608 M * matti Who required coffee right now? 1157296620 M * Bertl /me 1157296643 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: so when are you going to release 2.0.2? :) 1157296668 M * Bertl are we missing anything there? I think no 1157296672 A * matti hands cup of hot coffee to Bertl. 1157296675 M * daniel_hozac i don't think so. 1157296687 M * Bertl hollow should be back (tomorrow?) 1157296691 M * daniel_hozac he is back. 1157296705 M * daniel_hozac he got back yesterday at 22:00, just like he promised ;) 1157296707 M * Bertl ah, even better, so we also have a lsit of changes 1157296742 M * Bertl and we can do the release ... i.e. I can put it on 13thfloor today and update the freshmeat entries 1157296774 A * Hollow is back already 1157296787 M * Bertl wb Hollow! 1157296795 M * Hollow hey Bertl :) 1157296804 M * Bertl lost overview somehow with the dsl fight :) 1157296825 M * Bertl 2.6.17.11 is still latest, yes? 1157296837 M * daniel_hozac yep. 1157296924 M * Bertl okay, I kick on the split scripts, and upload the stuff in the next hours 1157296977 M * daniel_hozac ok, cool! 1157296994 M * matti So, 2.0.2 stable today? 1157297006 M * daniel_hozac stable got delta-init-fix01 and delta-remount-fix01 too, right? 1157297128 M * Bertl nope 1157297134 M * Hollow Bertl: do you think we can put the releases on people.linux-vserver.org already? i have plenty of time to install whatever you need for it.. 1157297161 M * Bertl but both are trivial, so I don't see a problem there 1157297163 M * daniel_hozac do releases really belong on people? 1157297173 M * Hollow daniel_hozac: well, rather to the ftp archives.. 1157297174 M * mnemoc *g* 1157297185 M * Bertl we'll discuss that _after_ dinner :) 1157297192 M * Bertl off for dinner now :) 1157297196 M * harry do i hear a release??? 1157297196 M * Hollow heh, ok.. cu 1157297197 M * daniel_hozac ok :) 1157297203 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1157297316 M * daniel_hozac Bertl_oO: oh, and maybe http://people.linux-vserver.org/~dhozac/p/k/delta-config-clean01.diff too. 1157297534 M * Alissa daniel_hozac have I compiled the utils again, after I have installed dietlibc but continuous vserver-info to say that I don't use her :( How I resolve the problem? 1157297564 M * Hollow daniel_hozac: btw, any response from enrico since i was away? 1157297565 M * Alissa configure have a specify tag to activate them? 1157297587 M * daniel_hozac Hollow: not that i'm aware of. 1157297595 M * Hollow Alissa: as long as the diet binary is in your $PATH util-vserver should auto detect it 1157297606 M * Hollow daniel_hozac: too bad :( 1157297630 M * daniel_hozac Alissa: you could try --enable-dietlibc 1157297706 M * Alissa daniel_hozac ;* 1157297795 M * daniel_hozac Alissa: what does configure say about dietlibc? 1157297827 M * Alissa configure is fine, make generate a error... 1157297874 M * Alissa daniel_hozac http://phpfi.com/148381 1157297951 M * daniel_hozac that would suggest you don't have dietlibc installed. 1157297956 M * Hollow as i said... diet should be in $PATH 1157297970 M * Hollow daniel_hozac: probably /opt/diet is not in path..? 1157297972 Q * mire Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1157297981 M * Hollow if he instaled manually 1157297993 M * daniel_hozac the FE package should install to /usr. 1157297995 M * Hollow or she? ;) 1157298050 M * Hollow arr... xfs_check: /dev/hde3 contains a mounted and writable filesystem 1157298053 M * Alissa I'm use a rpm to install diet... 1157298069 M * Hollow now how the f*** should i umount / 1157298088 M * daniel_hozac Hollow: mount -o remount,ro /? 1157298101 M * daniel_hozac Alissa: what RPM? dietlibc-0.30-1.fc5.x86_64.rpm? 1157298110 M * Alissa daniel_hozac yep 1157298112 M * Hollow hm, probably.. i thought he also complains that it is mounted (in whatever way) 1157298150 M * daniel_hozac Alissa: so how did you install it? what does rpm -qi dietlibc say? 1157298175 M * Hollow doesn't help... he still says it is writable.. dumb xfs_check.. 1157298201 M * Alissa daniel_hozac rpm -i diet* ;) 1157298202 M * Hollow well, at least i can check /usr and /var this way 1157298202 M * daniel_hozac ah, too bad... guess you'll need a live-CD then. 1157298236 M * Hollow yep.. 1157298498 M * Alissa /usr/lib64/dietlibc 1157298500 M * Alissa :) 1157298588 M * doener Hollow: hm, pivot_root to some vserver? 1157298621 J * rusty` ~rusty@a1979.adsl.pool.eol.hu 1157298623 M * rusty` hello guys 1157298635 M * rusty` is there a BME patch for linux kernel 2.6.17.8? 1157298676 M * Hollow doener: ehm? 1157298719 M * doener pivot_root can exchange the root fs, you can unmount the old one afterwards 1157298763 M * doener the vserver would just need the dev node and you should be able to repair from there... 1157298794 M * doener (of course any filesystem usable as rootfs would do) 1157298851 M * doener (and you need to stop most processes) 1157298912 M * Alissa how devil I tell configure where to take the dietlibs? I have spulciato in--help, but I find only to feature to activate the dietlibs but not the TAG to tell him whether to find her :/ 1157298933 M * mnemoc daniel_hozac: hi, question using secure-mount... what should i do to get devpts as /dev/pts and not dev/pts on mtab? :( 1157298978 M * rusty` is there a BME patch for linux kernel 2.6.17.8? 1157298979 M * daniel_hozac hmm? 1157298989 M * daniel_hozac rusty`: it's included in the vserver patches. 1157299042 M * daniel_hozac http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/split-2.6.17.7-vs2.0.2-rc28x/37_2.6.17.7_bme.diff has a split patch for 2.6.17.7 as well. 1157299058 M * daniel_hozac mnemoc: the mount point or the source? 1157299092 M * rusty` daniel: thanks :) 1157299126 M * daniel_hozac Alissa: ./configure ... DIET=/path/to/diet should do it. 1157299293 M * Alissa daniel_hozac http://phpfi.com/148384 don't work :/ 1157299303 J * Viper0482 ~Viper0482@p54977DBA.dip.t-dialin.net 1157299312 M * mnemoc daniel_hozac: mount point, at mtab is missing the heading / ... so du screams :p 1157299341 M * daniel_hozac mnemoc: hmm, what's the command you're using? 1157299404 M * daniel_hozac Alissa: that's a directory, not the wrapper. you'll have to find the wrapper script, which if you used the FE package should be at /usr/bin/diet. rpm -ql dietlibc | grep bin should tell you though. 1157299420 M * mnemoc i'm using dev/pts explicitly there... $_SECURE_MOUNT -t devpts -o gid=5,mode=620,dev --mtab $PWD/etc/mtab none dev/pts 1157299434 M * daniel_hozac that's probably why... 1157299442 M * mnemoc :) 1157299448 M * mnemoc but what should i use? 1157299448 M * daniel_hozac you could use --chroot and /dev/pts, i guess. 1157299464 M * mnemoc :o 1157299468 M * mnemoc ok :) 1157299472 A * mnemoc slaps himself 1157299711 M * Alissa daniel_hozac I not find a "diet" wrapper, on the system and on the package O.o" 1157299740 J * dna_ ~naucki@225-234-dsl.kielnet.net 1157299989 M * daniel_hozac Alissa: then you probably didn't install the right package. 1157300037 P * Viper0482 und weg 1157300042 M * mnemoc daniel_hozac: cool, with --chroot i don't need to set --mtab anymore :p thanks ,-) 1157300077 M * daniel_hozac hehe. 1157300140 Q * dna Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1157300230 N * dna_ dna 1157301094 N * Bertl_oO Bertl 1157301099 M * Bertl back now ... 1157301192 A * Belu is away (i´ll be back later...) 1157301194 N * Belu Belu_zZz 1157301298 M * Alissa ufff 1157301308 M * Alissa I not find the source of dietlibc :/ 1157301322 M * daniel_hozac http://www.fefe.de/dietlibc/ 1157301331 M * daniel_hozac first hit on google... 1157301422 M * Wonka hehe 1157301706 M * Bertl Alissa: what distro is that you are using? 1157301735 M * Alissa host is Fedora core, guest _all distro's_ :) 1157301911 M * Bertl FC should have a proper dietlibc package 1157301934 M * Bertl well, actually I'm pretty sure it has :) 1157301970 M * daniel_hozac indeed. 1157302050 M * Alissa Bertl FC5 have a lib, not a wrapper :/ 1157302059 M * daniel_hozac sure, if you install the wrong package. 1157302083 M * Alissa dietlibc-lib-0.30-1.fc5.x86_64.rpm 1157302087 M * Alissa O.o" not is? 1157302087 M * daniel_hozac exactly. 1157302099 M * daniel_hozac you want dietlibc-0.30-1.fc5.x86_64.rpm. 1157302144 M * daniel_hozac as i said right from the start. 1157302332 M * Alissa daniel_hozac build/host: x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu 1157302332 M * Alissa Use dietlibc: yes 1157302333 M * Alissa :D 1157302337 M * Alissa work! ^^ 1157302351 M * Bertl Alissa: dietlibc-lib seems to be the (dynamic) library, where dietlibc (without lib) is the executable :) 1157302351 M * matti lvs -n 1157302352 M * matti Ops. 1157302407 J * meandtheshell ~markus@85-124-38-178.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at 1157302409 M * Alissa Bertl do you want to get married me? ;P ^^ 1157302479 M * Bertl Hollow: I got the feeling that the deep structure with people* is not really nice and intuitive ... more important, for now I think I prefer 13thfloor for my patches and stuff, doesn't mean that we can/should not mirror it on people.* 1157302611 M * Alissa Bertl http://phpfi.com/148399 (the network on this Gentoo guest don't work :/) 1157302688 M * Bertl what does your config dir contain for that guest? 1157302702 M * Bertl i.e. /etc/vservers/sonic88/interfaces/ 1157302708 M * matti harry: New patches in ~spender. 1157302809 M * Alissa Bertl http://phpfi.com/148402 this is my config of the network 1157302845 M * Hollow Bertl: deep structure? 1157302886 M * Bertl what would be the url of (for example) testme.sh ? 1157302905 M * Hollow http://people.linux-vserver.org/~bertl/scripts/testme.sh 1157302946 M * Bertl hmm, last time that was a little longer, IIRC 1157302961 M * Hollow no, it was always like that :) 1157303022 M * Hollow anyway, you can use 13thfloor as well if you prefer, i just thought it would be nice to have all scripts, patches etc for us in one place 1157303041 M * Bertl could we make that http://linux-vserver.org/~bertl and have the wiki still at the same place? 1157303092 M * Hollow will need some mod_rewrite ugliness i guess 1157303103 M * Hollow in addition to the redirection map 1157303132 M * Bertl do we need rewriting for ~ dirs to work? 1157303140 M * Bertl shouldn't that be handled by apache? 1157303147 M * Hollow no, mod_userdir takes care of that usually 1157303160 M * Hollow but you can do it with mod_rewrite too afaik 1157303169 M * Bertl sure you can :) 1157303185 M * Hollow i'm not a fan of too much rewriting ;) 1157303210 M * Hollow is people. really too long? 1157303244 M * Bertl well, it somehow looks unnecessary and unintuitive to me 1157303255 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: what's your opinion? 1157303267 M * Hollow i proposed dev. in the first place.. 1157303437 M * daniel_hozac doesn't really matter to me... 1157303476 M * daniel_hozac i guess linux-vserver.org/~... would be nicer. 1157303492 M * Bertl Alissa: add a prefix as suggested by the tools 1157303497 J * Alissa` atnuzdmxqo@151.81.5.60 1157303504 M * Bertl (or netmask if you prefer) 1157303541 M * Alissa` ufff 1157303545 M * Alissa` ISP sux... 1157303549 M * Bertl Hollow: okay, the data for people is on the same guest as the wiki? or a different one? 1157303552 M * Bertl 19:11 < Bertl> Alissa: add a prefix as suggested by the tools 1157303574 M * Alissa` Bertl prefix? O.o not understand... 1157303583 M * Alissa` what is prefix? 1157303584 M * Hollow Bertl: on the same guest 1157303617 M * Bertl Alissa`: an entry how many bits of the address are valid (0-32) 1157303650 M * Bertl Hollow: okay, then let's see if apache can handle the linux-vserver.org/~* correctly and leave the people alias as is 1157303658 M * Alissa` Bertl you have a example on the doc's? 1157303677 M * Bertl what is your network config? 1157303692 M * Bertl 216.75.63.63/24 or 216.75.63.63/28 or ... 1157303698 M * Hollow Bertl: ok, we can try this... btw, should the redirection map do an external redirect or an internal one? 1157303716 M * Bertl for the old pages? 1157303719 M * Hollow for both 1157303738 M * Bertl well, we want to know _where_ we are, so that should be external IMHO 1157303749 M * Hollow ok, i'd prefer this as well 1157303750 M * Bertl same is true for google bot and friends 1157303778 M * Bertl which should get a redirect permanent 1157303887 Q * Alissa Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1157303937 M * Bertl Alissa`: what is your netmask for the 216.75.63.63 ip? 1157303997 M * Alissa` 255 x 4 1157303999 M * Alissa` :) 1157304012 M * Bertl hmm, no network that is on? 1157304030 M * Bertl well, works too, but usually folks use networks :) 1157304033 M * Alissa` I have a class C of there IP's 1157304040 M * Hollow Bertl: if we do it with mod_rewrite, we could skip ~ as well 1157304046 M * Bertl so that would be 255.255.255.0 i.e. /24 1157304046 M * Hollow ah no.. 1157304053 M * Hollow we have no distinction to the wiki pages then 1157304066 M * Bertl precisely, the ~ is fine 1157304114 M * Bertl Alissa`: so you simply do either echo 32 >prefix or 24 >prefix 1157304126 M * Bertl (inside the '0' dir) 1157304132 M * Hollow somehow i still don't like it... we have subdomains for all services, except devspace.. seems more unintuitive to me than without 1157304146 M * Hollow *with 1157304190 M * Bertl well, if we have both or maybe even people + dev + none, everybody can use whatever s/he prefers 1157304231 M * Hollow yeah, ok... that would be an option... 1157304310 M * Bertl patch breakdown is now running 1157304591 M * Hollow Bertl: what do you need for your devspace scripts? 1157304741 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: so 2.0.2 will be -rc31 + delta-remount-fix01 + delta-init-fix01( + delta-config-clean01)? 1157305123 M * Bertl I don't think we added the config-clean 1157305268 M * Bertl do we want that to be part of it too? 1157305396 A * Hollow nods 1157305483 M * Bertl who has tested it? 1157305576 M * Hollow i didn't but i could if noone (daniel_hozac?) did it 1157305602 M * daniel_hozac test it how? 1157305639 M * daniel_hozac IMHO it shouldn't change anything, other than the description. 1157305665 M * Bertl emphasis on should not :) 1157305708 M * Bertl I don't like untested patches on release day :) 1157305719 M * daniel_hozac nah, it's not an important patch anyway. 1157305719 M * matti Bertl: Well, looks harmless. 1157305721 M * Bertl what I'd expect is: 1157305736 M * Bertl a test compile without the patch and both options selected 1157305746 M * Bertl plus a test compile with the patch, for both options 1157305750 M * daniel_hozac i guess most users have already figured out how to interpret the existing options :) 1157305760 M * daniel_hozac what do you mean for both options? 1157305761 M * Bertl if they are binary identical, the patch is fine for me 1157305775 M * Bertl well, with and without NGNET/LEGACYNET 1157306000 Q * lilalinux Remote host closed the connection 1157306089 M * Alissa` Bertl exista a stable patch to add IPv6 to vserver? 1157306097 M * daniel_hozac IPv6 is experimental. 1157306134 M * Alissa` uhmmm 1157306182 M * daniel_hozac but there has been very little feedback on the patches once people get them running, so either it's completely flawless, or nobody has really tested it yet. 1157306392 M * daniel_hozac (at least as far as i know) 1157306947 Q * kaner Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1157306948 M * Bertl yeah, seems so, well, we will dig through it soon with bonbons' help 1157306968 J * kaner kaner@strace.org 1157306973 M * matti Hm... 1157306979 M * Bertl wb kaner! 1157307030 M * matti I seems, that Willy will add support for gcc4 in 2.4.x 1157307034 M * matti Good news. 1157307039 M * matti After all. 1157307058 M * Bertl hmm, well, not sure that makes sense :) 1157307078 M * Bertl after all, gcc 3.3.6 is the best version they had :) 1157307160 M * matti Bertl: There's a discussion on #grsecurity about this :) 1157307211 M * matti Bertl: http://lwn.net/Articles/195898/ 1157307229 M * Alissa` gcc 4.x it's very very BAD 1157307237 M * Alissa` don't compile everyone 1157307239 M * Alissa` >.< 1157307255 M * daniel_hozac yes, bad compiler requiring syntactically correct code! ;) 1157307268 M * matti Alissa`: Well, not really ;p 1157307280 M * Bertl Hollow, daniel_hozac: so I take it (some of) you are testing the config patch now for inclusion? 1157307375 M * daniel_hozac hmm, i just realized it's wrong, heh. 1157307391 M * daniel_hozac should be default y for VSERVER_NGNET, or it won't ever be set. 1157307402 M * daniel_hozac not that it's actually used anywhere, other than in vci_config. 1157307480 M * daniel_hozac i don't think it's important enough to hold off on the release for though. 1157307495 M * Bertl okay, so we leave it for 2.0.3 and 2.1.1 then ... fine 1157308173 M * bonbons Bertl, I've locally updated my patch to 2.6.17.11-vs2.1.1-rc31 but still have to test it out 1157308219 M * matti I can test somethings. 1157308228 M * matti ;) 1157308237 M * bonbons the single compilation test I did worked well, but that's all for now 1157308290 M * Alissa` http://phpfi.com/148430 what kind of error is it?!? O.o" 1157308625 Q * olilo Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1157308909 J * olilo hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org 1157308964 M * daniel_hozac Alissa`: have you tried using the RPMs instead? you seem to be running in to every possible issue... 1157308979 M * derjohn Hollow, more or less i stole the idea from the gentoo faq -- dont you like genoo ? 1157308979 M * Alissa` daniel_hozac debian guest :P 1157309009 M * daniel_hozac Alissa`: that doesn't matter, it's a utils problem... 1157309043 M * Alissa` daniel_hozac obvious that race behind all the problems, otherwise what kind of tester I would be? :P ^_^ 1157309188 Q * coocoon Quit: KVIrc 3.2.0 'Realia' 1157309227 M * Hollow derjohn: well, 1) i don't see why i shouldn't like gentoo just because i propose a different website layout for linux-vserver, 2) the gentoo faq does not do it ;) 1157309259 M * Hollow Bertl, daniel_hozac: if we delay the config-clean01, we could also consolidate these two options, no? 1157309281 M * daniel_hozac or remove NGNET completely from stable. 1157309291 M * Hollow that's the spirit 1157309293 M * Hollow :) 1157309631 M * Bertl http://www.13thfloor.at/vserver/s_rel26/overview 1157309698 M * daniel_hozac cool! 1157309707 M * Hollow :) 1157309720 M * Bertl so we have a stable release, will now do the freshmeat update 1157309723 M * Hollow off to dinner now.. will prepare all the things later then.. 1157309770 M * Alissa` exec-ulimit: execv(): Bad address <== grrrrrrrr -.-""""" 1157309789 M * Alissa` I don't understand yet from where that error goes out... 1157309799 M * Bertl Alissa`: are you sure you got the tools right now? :) 1157309802 M * Hollow happens on amd64 + gcc4.1.1 1157309811 M * Hollow this bug has no fix yet afaik 1157309822 M * Bertl aha? details? 1157309825 M * daniel_hozac but not for me :) 1157309841 M * Alissa` Bertl yep! 1157309842 M * Hollow https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138468 1157309848 M * Hollow cu later 1157309893 M * Bertl tx, cya! 1157310301 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: what does exec-ulimit do? 1157310332 M * derjohn Hollow, then the guy who gave me the template (for ispman wiki) lied ... I'll try to find out ... 1157310392 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: apply the ulimits configured for the guest. 1157310477 M * Bertl I remember we investigated something like this, where do_exec* failed on x86_64 with gentoos compiler 1157310500 M * daniel_hozac i remember it too. 1157310513 M * Bertl not sure we resolved this though ... 1157310572 M * matti Hm... 1157311084 M * Hollow Bertl: we didn't.. 1157311097 M * Hollow i also sent you the gdb logs attached to the bug 1157311117 M * Hollow iirc it had something to do with the execve stub for x86_64 1157311460 M * Bertl derjohn: where is the new 2.6 stable changelog? 1157311498 M * Bertl derjohn: my url is still 1157311502 M * Bertl http://linux-vserver.org/ChangeLog26 1157311506 M * Hollow Bertl: http://wiki.linux-vserver.org/ChangeLog-2.0 1157311542 M * derjohn Bertl, I didnt change that yet, because I saw some table on the frontpage of the newwiki 1157311567 M * Bertl okay, tx, I'll take that, please add the few lines for the final release 1157311568 M * derjohn (I didnt investigate further as my FAQ's are still not done) 1157311570 M * Bertl (two patches) 1157311588 M * Hollow yeah, will update everything to the new release 1157311619 M * derjohn Bertl, hm. so 2.0.2-rc31 wont be the "stable"? Isnt it usual to run a -rc32 and then declare it is realese without change? 1157311635 M * Bertl well, we are not _that_ usual, are we? :) 1157311659 M * Bertl no, seriously, I didn't want to delay it any longer 1157311659 M * Hollow hehe 1157311671 M * Bertl i.e. I want 2.0.2 out. now! :) 1157311681 M * derjohn Bertl, I trust in the communities skills, so the the changes are "rock solid"... ;) 1157311685 M * Bertl (so we can move on, and folks start testing it :) 1157311695 M * derjohn Bertl, you? want that? then go ;) # 1157311717 M * Hollow what has changed to rc31? only remount and init fix? 1157311728 M * Bertl yup, one line changes 1157311763 M * derjohn Bertl, btw: any updates about the devel-rc31/mysql problem? 1157311787 M * Bertl nope, but I will analyze the code pathes shortly 1157311815 M * derjohn Bertl, but go for the 2.0.2 release first ;) 1157311850 M * Bertl derjohn: I already did :) http://www.13thfloor.at/vserver/s_rel26/overview 1157311874 T * Bertl http://linux-vserver.org/ | latest stable 2.02, 1.2.10, 1.2.11-rc1, devel 2.1.0, exp 2.1.1-rc31, stable+grsec 2.0.2-rc31 | util-vserver-0.30.210 | libvserver-1.0.2 & vserver-utils-1.0.3 | He who asks a question is a fool for a minute; he who doesn't ask is a fool for a lifetime -- share the gained knowledge on the wiki, and we'll forget about the minute ;) 1157311895 M * derjohn Bertl, ah, I just wanted to complain about the topic ;) 1157311910 M * Hollow Bertl: the init fix is for my problem with two inits, right? 1157311916 M * Bertl yep 1157311950 M * Bertl and the other one is for that poor debian folks :) 1157311962 M * derjohn Bertl, congrats for the realese! Thx to all those who helped to reach the goal! 1157311980 M * derjohn Bertl, what is Debian specific? 1157311992 M * derjohn Bertl, what about waldi' 1157311997 M * Bertl well, thanks, and especially thanks to all of you for that incredible help! would not have been able to do it without you ... 1157312003 M * derjohn s remount/mount bug? 1157312008 M * Bertl yep 1157312026 M * derjohn Is that Debian specific ? 1157312034 M * Hollow ok, changelog in the new wiki is up to date 1157312057 J * ntrs ~ntrs@68-188-51-87.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com 1157312062 M * Bertl welcome ntrs! 1157312067 J * nayco_ ~nayco@lns-bzn-54-82-251-94-25.adsl.proxad.net 1157312067 M * derjohn Hollow, will you give us input about whom you informed about the release ? ( which newstickers etc) 1157312073 M * Bertl welcome nayco_! 1157312079 M * derjohn Bertl, will you post about the stable realease to LKML = 1157312080 M * Hollow derjohn: yep, will do... 1157312090 M * nayco_ Hello, Bertl , hello, all :-) ! 1157312090 M * derjohn Hollow, an a wikipage? 1157312092 M * Hollow btw, Bertl: did you add anything to my news-contacts.txt? 1157312107 M * Bertl derjohn: it's scheduled on freshmeat for now, and I'll do an lkml announcement shortly 1157312125 M * Bertl Hollow: will send you a list of possible sites/urls/etc 1157312129 M * Hollow derjohn: yep, i will add all the pr infos to the new wiki soon (this evening) 1157312145 M * nayco_ Hey all, can I post my french article for the 2.0.2 release ? 1157312150 M * derjohn Bertl, well I should subscrive to LKML i think. I interested in the comments. 1157312150 Q * ntrs Read error: Connection reset by peer 1157312158 M * Bertl nayco_: I guess so :) 1157312163 J * ntrs ~ntrs@68-188-51-87.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com 1157312195 M * nayco_ great ! 1157312235 M * Hollow Bertl: is there any reason why you skip the second dot for releases? ;) 1157312256 M * Hollow (in the versioning) 1157312261 M * Bertl for the stable ones, it's kind of tradition, but the aptch always has all dots 1157312291 M * daniel_hozac didn't we get into problems because of that with 1.2.10? :) 1157312305 Q * ntrs_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1157312305 M * Bertl yes, indeed, and we'll drop it for 2.2.x 1157312321 M * Hollow hehe 1157312330 M * nayco_ Bertl: when will the new site switch will occur ? 1157312351 M * Hollow in about 2-5 hours i'd say ;) 1157312394 M * Bertl Hollow: do we have a test page (or if not, could we do one?) with all the different kind of links and fonts/sections in it for visual adjustments? 1157312428 M * Bertl Hollow: I'll do it myself if there is none ... 1157312465 M * Hollow no, there is none yet 1157312494 M * Bertl okay, as you complained vividly about my last page name :) what name would you suggest for that? 1157312521 M * nayco_ Hollow: ok ;-) 1157312531 M * Hollow VCMD Examples 1157312548 M * Bertl nah, for the new one I mean :) 1157312563 M * Bertl btw, how easy/complicated is it to rename mediawiki pages? 1157312577 M * Hollow easy, just click on move in the top nav bar ;) 1157312591 M * Bertl ah, cool, how do I watch the entire wiki? 1157312597 M * Hollow what about doing it in the sandbox 1157312618 M * Bertl nah, sandbox will be overwritten, I want something locked down for checks 1157312634 M * Bertl basically a visual template to do css checks 1157312654 M * Hollow ah... maybe "Stylesheet Overview" 1157312654 M * Bertl my naming would be CSS Test Page 1157312663 M * Hollow yeah, ok too 1157312680 M * Bertl so let's make it "Stylesheet Test Page" then, okay? 1157312686 M * Hollow heh, ok 1157312982 N * Belu_zZz Belu 1157313246 Q * olilo Remote host closed the connection 1157313295 J * olilo hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org 1157313709 J * ntrs_ ~ntrs@68-188-51-87.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com 1157313709 Q * ntrs Read error: Connection reset by peer 1157314289 M * Bertl Hollow: math seems disabled, right? 1157314356 M * Hollow i'd rather say it has never been enabled, but yes... 1157314368 M * Hollow iirc it needs some kind of plugin or dependency.. 1157314371 M * Hollow do you need it? 1157314404 M * Bertl well, might be nice for some aspects, like the scheduling stuff, but not really urgent or essential 1157314588 M * Hollow ok, will take a look later 1157314670 J * mire ~mire@238-167-222-85.COOL.ADSL.VLine.verat.net 1157314828 M * Bertl Hollow: references seem to be disabled too (footnotes) intentional? 1157315000 M * Hollow well, it is a vanilla mediawiki installation, i did not install any plugins, nor did i enable/disable anything 1157315003 J * coocoon ~coocoon@p54A06A67.dip.t-dialin.net 1157315037 M * Bertl no problem, here is the test page so far http://wiki.linux-vserver.org/Stylesheet_Test_Page 1157315089 M * Bertl will now adjust the colors ... 1157315099 M * Hollow ok 1157315246 Q * meandtheshell Quit: bye bye ... 1157315696 M * Hollow Bertl: i have updated the version table, the news and added the http://wiki.linux-vserver.org/Public_Relations_Team page 1157316245 J * yarihm ~yarihm@84-75-123-221.dclient.hispeed.ch 1157316314 M * mnemoc PR Squad :) 1157316435 Q * brc_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1157316457 M * Hollow mnemoc: indeed :D 1157317111 J * lilalinux ~plasma@dslb-084-058-213-137.pools.arcor-ip.net 1157317943 J * Aiken ~james@tooax6-141.dialup.optusnet.com.au 1157317982 M * Bertl Hollow: excellent! 1157319062 Q * lilalinux Remote host closed the connection 1157319063 M * Hollow ftp archives are filled: http://ftp.linux-vserver.org 1157319142 M * michal_ looks cool ;] 1157319277 M * Hollow and the links in the version table are fixed too ;) 1157319329 M * doener Hollow: any idea for a "usable" sort order for the util-vserver directory? 1157319366 M * doener or maybe do a legacy vs. alpha split? 1157319367 M * Hollow hahaha. 1157319368 M * Hollow ;) 1157319371 M * Hollow yeah 1157319374 M * Hollow that would be better 1157319380 M * Hollow but even versionsort doesn't do it right 1157319382 M * Hollow :) 1157319414 M * doener yeah, because the versioning scheme is rather "uncommon" to say the least ;) 1157319463 M * Hollow well, i didn't want to split them in stable/alpha, because 0.30.210 is the stable one actually 1157319480 M * Hollow i wish we'd get an answer from enrico... 1157319550 M * doener that's why I used "legacy" instead of "stable"... if enrico considers 0.30.210 as "alpha" (which I assume) we should not change that, but calling "stable" "legacy" looks like a sane thing to do 1157319594 M * doener (just my opinion) 1157319662 M * Hollow i don't have a preference here... daniel_hozac? 1157319678 Q * Aiken Quit: Leaving 1157319679 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1157319734 M * harry legacy sounds... really old 1157319743 M * harry alpha sounds superdangerous testing 1157319749 M * doener they are... really old 1157319753 M * harry why not have a stable/unstable ? 1157319783 M * Hollow doener: which versions should go into legacy in your opinion? 1157319784 M * harry just use the good old: debian-stable - legacy - stable - unstable 1157319803 M * harry the oldest crap is called : debianstable 1157319815 M * harry and so on 1157319828 M * doener Hollow: the ones that don't support the flower style configuration ;) 1157319851 M * Hollow tbh, i don't know when it was introduced ;) 1157319870 M * doener 0.29.290 or sth. 1157319882 M * doener some high last number 1157319890 M * doener maybe even 0.28.x 1157319890 M * harry is there a new util-vserver coming btw? 1157319894 J * Aiken ~james@tooax6-141.dialup.optusnet.com.au 1157319894 M * harry for the release? 1157319945 M * Hollow not until enrico does, or daniel hozac is given the permission to do releases (which was requested last week) 1157319966 M * harry then ... enricooooooooooooooooooooooooooo 1157319972 M * harry where areth thou!? 1157319975 M * Hollow haha, nice try ;) 1157319991 M * harry i've never even seen enrico here :S 1157319997 M * Hollow i have once 1157319999 M * harry is he still into vserver development? 1157320010 M * harry does he actively do something here? 1157320031 M * Hollow not that i know of 1157320046 M * harry so why doesn't he pass it on to daniel hozac 1157320056 M * harry (if daniel wants that, off course :)) 1157320071 M * Hollow as i said, we requested the permission from enrico last week, no answer yet 1157320093 M * harry call him! ;) 1157320097 M * Hollow iirc bertl talked (tried to) talk to enrico 1157320103 M * Hollow s/talked// 1157320104 M * Hollow ;) 1157320117 M * harry hmmm... that's a real pitty :( 1157320130 A * harry wants a new vserver utils ! 1157320159 M * Hollow well, we have patches for the most bugs/feature requests 1157320174 M * Hollow http://people.linux-vserver.org/~dhozac/p/uv/ 1157320191 M * harry Hollow: but that doesn't give me a nice and clean downloadable util-vserver 1157320201 M * Hollow right you are 1157320201 M * harry does it still work perfectly when all patches are added? 1157320213 M * daniel_hozac it's supposed to work _better_ with the patches ;) 1157320214 M * Hollow we have nearly all of them in our gentoo ebuild 1157320219 M * Hollow indeed :D 1157320227 Q * dna Quit: Verlassend 1157320229 M * harry there we go... NEARLY all 1157320232 M * harry why not: all? 1157320240 M * Hollow because we are not fedora, e.g. 1157320241 M * daniel_hozac some are not relevant for a distribution package. 1157320241 M * Hollow ;) 1157320312 M * harry in that case... bitchslap enrico! 1157320322 M * harry let the spanking beginnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn 1157320324 A * Belu is away (i´ll be back later...) 1157320324 N * Belu Belu_zZz 1157320328 M * daniel_hozac he could be on vacation or something. 1157320336 M * harry he's not allowed! 1157320358 M * harry i won't allow that!, enrico, get your not-so-actively-programming ass over here! 1157320374 M * Hollow calm down... 1157320378 M * doener o.O 1157320378 M * harry brrrr... /me didn't sleep all that much... time for a good night sleep :) 1157320387 M * doener I agree with that ;) 1157320390 M * Hollow heh 1157320392 A * harry very calm, very tired 1157320401 M * harry just wanted to be a bit of an ass :) 1157320437 M * Hollow great attitude ;) 1157320460 N * harry H4RrY 1157320470 N * H4RrY harry 1157320491 M * harry whoops 1157320506 M * harry (wanted to be an ass on another server too :)) 1157320582 M * Hollow Bertl: any ETA for the logo/colors? i'm pretty tired already... maybe we have to delay it until tomorrow, i will also send out the announcement to all gathered adresses tomorrow i guess 1157320692 M * Alissa` I go to sleep, see your's tomorrow :D Good night to all ^^ 1157320700 M * Hollow night Alissa` 1157320773 Q * Alissa` 1157321111 Q * nayco_ Quit: Bonne nuit ! 1157321806 M * Hollow ok folks... off to bed now, cu tomorrow 1157321833 M * Bertl Hollow: could you give the following css atry? 1157321840 M * Hollow ok.. ;) 1157321857 Q * mire Quit: Leaving 1157321925 M * Bertl http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/main.css 1157321938 M * Bertl it's just a test, but IMHO a step in the right direction 1157322037 M * Hollow wow.. 1157322045 M * Hollow where is the green gone? :/ 1157322109 M * Bertl do we need green? 1157322123 M * Hollow well, quite boring now 1157322138 M * Bertl so I take it, you don't like it then :) 1157322144 M * Hollow indeed 1157322174 M * Hollow it looks more like the old wiki now... 1157322179 M * Hollow at least regarding colors 1157322189 M * Hollow also too much lines 1157322193 M * Hollow in the navbars 1157322335 M * Bertl well, I guess we will find a compromise ... 1157322352 M * Bertl for me the green didn't match with the brown shades 1157322495 M * Hollow did you change the logo as well? 1157322515 M * Hollow imo the colors should match 1157322730 M * Bertl no, didn't change the logo colors, but the green doesn't go well with the brown for the sidebar and stuff 1157322773 M * Bertl but let's add it as second style maybe and let the folks comment on both of them? 1157322833 M * Hollow well, couldn't we make the blue a bit more colorful at least? 1157322842 Q * yarihm Quit: Leaving 1157322872 M * Hollow i'm not all for green... but it just looks like 8-bit color now 1157322881 M * Hollow web-safe palette or so.. ;) 1157322916 M * Bertl hehe, maybe a good contrast to the flower page :) 1157323140 M * Hollow well, it looks a lot better without all those lines already 1157323142 M * Hollow imo 1157323289 M * Bertl you should at least keep the right border on the left side 1157323387 M * Bertl maybe we should keep the contents completely in blue shades 1157323398 M * Hollow well, since all those stuff in mediawiki are divs, this line devides the topbar in two pieces 1157323403 M * Hollow looks strange 1157323427 M * Bertl well, but the search _is_ something different after all 1157323440 M * Bertl (and does not belong to the top bar :) 1157323494 M * Bertl but a few structural questions: 1157323496 Q * coocoon Quit: KVIrc 3.2.0 'Realia' 1157323540 M * Bertl the big empty space (for notes :) on the top, with the really top aligned 'preferences' 'login' etc ... do we really need that? 1157323568 M * Bertl maybe there is a way to make that more integrated/use it for e.g. the page title? 1157323571 M * Hollow the space or the links? 1157323613 M * Hollow imo the title should be aligned with the content 1157323648 M * Bertl I'm fine with that, maybe we can move the user/login/preferences down to right above the top-bar 1157323679 M * Bertl instead of sticking right to the top window border 1157323700 M * Bertl or we could use that space for the search field 1157323709 M * Bertl (which imho is too small anyway) 1157323735 M * Hollow i tried to move it to the topbar, but sometimes you so many links, it doesn't even fit in 1280x1024 1157323754 M * Bertl what? 1157323782 M * Bertl what has so many links? 1157323809 M * Hollow http://home.xnull.de/misc/screen/129.jpg 1157323863 M * Bertl I'm talking about the top line which says: 1157323871 M * Bertl Hollo mytalk preferences ... 1157323879 M * Bertl and the empty white space below 1157323903 M * Hollow yeah, and you wanted to move those links to the topnav 1157323907 M * Bertl wouldn't it make much more sense to move the search stuff there (and have it white ground) 1157323916 M * Hollow but they'd overlap as you can see on the screenshot 1157323938 M * Bertl not besides that, _above_ that 1157323969 M * Hollow maybe i'm too tired, but aren't they above the topnav already? 1157323980 M * Bertl give me a minute to 'adjust' your image 1157324242 M * Bertl http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/hollow.png 1157324250 M * Bertl or alternatively 1157324350 M * Hollow ok.. updated the css 1157324492 M * Bertl hmm, well, we should probably move the search stuff between this and the top bar 1157324500 M * Bertl will play around with it a little 1157324514 M * Bertl have a good night for now ... you probably need your rest 1157324663 M * Hollow ok, have fun 1157324677 M * Bertl guess I'm off to bed too for now ... but I will, tx! 1157324691 M * Bertl have a good whatever everyone ... cya tomorrow! 1157324694 M * Hollow night then for now :) 1157324700 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1157325975 M * Skram are you guys hiding my cell phone again? 1157325976 M * Skram darn it 1157327305 J * mire ~mire@238-167-222-85.COOL.ADSL.VLine.verat.net