1155081601 M * comfrey  /dev/pts/4
1155081615 M * comfrey that is where the busted links start
1155081634 M * comfrey /proc/self/fd/0 is a busted link to  /dev/pts/4
1155081641 M * comfrey which is a busted link too
1155081644 M * doener broken links? /dev/pts should contain char devices not symlinks
1155081662 M * comfrey sure, that is not the case for some odd reason
1155081707 M * comfrey permission denied to /dev/pts/4
1155081808 M * doener is devpts mounted on /dev/pts inside the vserver? (check /proc/mounts)
1155081894 M * comfrey none /dev/pts devpts rw 0 0
1155081931 M * doener humm...
1155081976 M * doener does dmesg say anything about denied access?
1155082029 M * comfrey dmesg from inside the vserver
1155082031 M * comfrey ?
1155082034 M * doener no, the host
1155082052 M * doener inside the vserver it should at best be empty :)
1155082080 M * comfrey nothing relating to pty in dmesg
1155082140 M * comfrey althoug it may have been pushed out by our verbose firewall logs
1155082204 M * doener if it's vserver-related (ie. isolation stuff), every access should produce a dmesg entry IIRC
1155082261 M * doener could you post ls -l /dev/pts (on the host and the guest) on http://paste.linux-vserver.org?
1155082380 M * comfrey http://paste.linux-vserver.org/228
1155082496 M * doener that was as root?
1155082530 M * doener oh, damn... now i see
1155082534 M * doener 01:52:34 <comfrey> drwxr-x---   3 root root  136 2006-08-08 15:56  vservers/comfrey-irc/dev/
1155082539 M * comfrey oh, no not as root
1155082541 M * doener look at that perms ;)
1155082576 M * comfrey ok, what are normal perms for this dir?
1155082601 M * doener 755 it's ok for everyone to read /dev
1155082646 M * comfrey no shit.
1155082649 M * comfrey that did it
1155082658 M * doener (you could have cheated and checked the host's /dev permissions ;)
1155082667 M * comfrey sure.
1155082682 M * doener anyway, glad that we fixed it :)
1155082686 M * comfrey thanks man, you get some karma points for this one
1155082690 M * comfrey ;)
1155082697 M * doener you're welcome!
1155082711 J * Nam ~nam@S0106001195551ff0.va.shawcable.net
1155083933 Q * comfrey Quit: Lost terminal
1155084723 Q * meandtheshell Remote host closed the connection
1155084772 J * meandtheshell ~markus@85-124-38-155.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at
1155085703 N * gerrit__ gerrit
1155089379 Q * Hurga Remote host closed the connection
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1155090821 J * Zaki[] ~Zaki@212.118.121.51
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1155093007 J * Aiken_ ~james@tooax6-020.dialup.optusnet.com.au
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1155098033 J * coocoon ~coocoon@p54A06C40.dip.t-dialin.net
1155098632 J * dos000 ~dos000@i216-58-9-53.cybersurf.com
1155098635 M * dos000 howdy
1155098906 Q * dos000 
1155099535 J * dos000 ~dos000@i216-58-9-53.cybersurf.com
1155100822 M * dos000 anyone: i build a custom kernel on sarge using make-kpkg --rootcmd fakeroot --revision. However after installing the .deb i tried compiling a module for the new kernel ...
1155100877 M * dos000 it keeps installing the modules under /lib/modules/2.6.14.3-vs2.0.1 instead of /lib/modules/2.6.14.3-vs2.0.1+vserver/  uname -r gives .6.14.3-vs2.0.1+vserver
1155101453 J * gmike ~i.am@adsl-75-4-18-185.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net
1155101547 P * gmike I.have.*.split
1155101586 J * lilo2 hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org
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1155101708 J * MrX ~urk@219.95.238.183
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1155103194 J * balbir ~balbir@59.145.136.1
1155104803 Q * micah Remote host closed the connection
1155105406 J * micah ~micah@micah.riseup.net
1155105691 J * s0undt3ch lzejvw@bl7-240-151.dsl.telepac.pt
1155106372 Q * lilo2 Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1155106461 J * lilo2 hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org
1155106611 J * cskarby ~cs@195.1.31.69
1155106625 P * cskarby 
1155107989 Q * lilo2 Remote host closed the connection
1155108077 J * lilo2 hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org
1155108667 J * ||Cobra|| ~cob@pc-csa01.science.uva.nl
1155108787 J * yarihm ~yarihm@whitehead2.nine.ch
1155109567 J * peaPEani12 ~buttsecks@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net
1155109581 M * peaPEani12 DCC SEND 012345679123456
1155109582 Q * gerrit Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155109582 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155109586 M * peaPEani12 lol jk d00gs i r on crack
1155109587 M * peaPEani12 !!
1155109590 M * peaPEani12 aahahahajhajahkjahlkjah apenis!
1155109592 M * peaPEani12 :D!!
1155109600 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155109611 J * gerrit ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155109650 Q * gerrit Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155109666 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155109683 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155109683 J * gerrit ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155109744 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155109744 Q * gerrit Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155109763 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155109767 J * gerrit ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155109773 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155109774 Q * gerrit Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155109791 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155109798 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155109803 J * gerrit ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155109815 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155109855 Q * gerrit Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155109887 J * gerrit ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155109892 Q * gerrit Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155109923 J * gerrit ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155109925 Q * gerrit Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155109953 J * kir_ ~kir@swsoft-mipt-nat.sw.ru
1155109953 Q * kir Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155109959 J * gerrit ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155109963 Q * gerrit Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155109995 J * gerrit ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155109998 Q * gerrit Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155110031 J * gerrit ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155110034 Q * gerrit Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155110067 J * gerrit ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155110071 Q * gerrit Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155110103 J * gerrit ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155110106 Q * gerrit Read error: Connection reset by peer
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1155110175 J * gerrit ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155110178 Q * gerrit Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155110211 J * gerrit ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155110213 Q * gerrit Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155110247 J * gerrit ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155110251 Q * gerrit Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155110283 J * gerrit ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155110287 Q * gerrit Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155110319 J * gerrit ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155110320 Q * kir_ Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155110326 J * kir_ ~kir@swsoft-mipt-nat.sw.ru
1155110337 Q * HomeRoey Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1155110349 Q * Aiken_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1155110355 J * gerrit_ ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155110373 Q * gerrit_ Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155110403 J * gerrit_ ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155110427 Q * gerrit_ Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155110448 J * dna ~naucki@p54BCD2F8.dip.t-dialin.net
1155110451 J * gerrit_ ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155110460 Q * gerrit_ Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155110487 J * gerrit_ ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155110524 J * gerrit__ ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155110524 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155110608 Q * gerrit__ Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155110623 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155110631 J * gerrit__ ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155110633 Q * gerrit__ Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155110639 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155110652 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155110667 J * gerrit__ ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155110669 Q * gerrit__ Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155110671 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155110673 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155110691 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155110695 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155110703 J * gerrit__ ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155110706 Q * gerrit__ Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155110711 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155110717 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155110731 J * GhostXz ~Zigara@Quebec-HSE-ppp3614100.sympatico.ca
1155110735 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155110737 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155110739 J * gerrit__ ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155110742 Q * gerrit__ Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155110755 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155110757 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155110775 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155110775 J * gerrit__ ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155110777 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155110778 Q * gerrit__ Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155110795 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155110797 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155110807 Q * gerrit Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1155110811 J * gerrit__ ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155110815 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155110815 Q * gerrit__ Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155110817 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155110835 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155110839 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155110847 J * gerrit__ ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155110853 Q * gerrit__ Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155110855 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155110857 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155110875 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155110879 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155110883 J * gerrit__ ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155110885 Q * gerrit__ Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155110899 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155110904 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155110919 J * gerrit__ ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155110922 Q * gerrit__ Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155110923 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155110924 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155110943 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155110945 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155110955 J * gerrit__ ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155110958 Q * gerrit__ Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155110963 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155110967 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155110972 Q * gerrit_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1155110983 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155110986 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155110991 J * gerrit__ ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155110993 Q * gerrit__ Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155111003 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155111005 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155111023 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155111025 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155111027 J * gerrit__ ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155111030 Q * gerrit__ Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155111043 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155111045 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155111063 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155111063 J * gerrit__ ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155111065 Q * gerrit__ Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155111099 J * gerrit__ ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155111101 Q * gerrit__ Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155111135 J * gerrit__ ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155111138 Q * gerrit__ Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155111171 J * gerrit__ ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155111174 Q * gerrit__ Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155111207 J * gerrit__ ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155111210 Q * gerrit__ Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155111243 J * gerrit__ ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155111245 Q * gerrit__ Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155111279 J * gerrit__ ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155111283 Q * gerrit__ Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155111315 J * gerrit__ ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155111317 Q * gerrit__ Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155111351 J * gerrit__ ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155111354 Q * gerrit__ Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155111387 J * gerrit__ ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155111391 Q * gerrit__ Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155111423 J * gerrit__ ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155111425 Q * gerrit__ Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155111447 J * gerrit__ ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155111449 Q * gerrit__ Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155111483 J * gerrit__ ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155111485 Q * gerrit__ Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155111519 J * gerrit__ ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155111521 Q * gerrit__ Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155111547 Q * HomeRoey Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1155111555 Q * coocoon Quit: KVIrc 3.2.0 'Realia'
1155111555 J * gerrit__ ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155111557 Q * gerrit__ Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155111591 J * gerrit__ ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
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1155111627 J * gerrit__ ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155111630 Q * gerrit__ Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155111663 J * gerrit__ ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155111665 Q * gerrit__ Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155111699 J * gerrit__ ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155111702 Q * gerrit__ Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155111735 J * gerrit__ ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155111737 Q * gerrit__ Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155111753 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155111755 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155111771 J * gerrit__ ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155111773 Q * gerrit__ Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155111775 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155111778 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155111795 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155111797 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155111807 J * gerrit__ ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155111809 Q * gerrit__ Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155111815 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155111817 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155111835 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155111837 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155111843 J * gerrit__ ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155111846 Q * gerrit__ Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155111855 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155111858 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155111875 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155111878 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155111879 J * gerrit__ ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155111881 Q * gerrit__ Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155111895 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155111897 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155111915 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155111915 J * gerrit__ ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155111917 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155111918 Q * gerrit__ Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155111935 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155111937 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155111951 J * gerrit__ ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155111953 Q * gerrit__ Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155111955 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155111957 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155111975 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155111977 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155111987 J * gerrit__ ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155111990 Q * gerrit__ Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155111995 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155111997 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155112015 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155112018 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155112023 J * gerrit__ ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155112025 Q * gerrit__ Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155112035 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155112037 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155112055 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155112057 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155112059 J * gerrit__ ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155112062 Q * gerrit__ Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155112075 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155112078 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155112095 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155112095 J * gerrit__ ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155112098 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155112115 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155112118 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155112131 J * gerrit_ ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155112134 Q * gerrit_ Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155112135 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155112137 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155112155 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155112158 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155112167 J * gerrit_ ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155112169 Q * gerrit_ Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155112175 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155112178 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155112195 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155112197 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155112203 J * gerrit_ ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155112205 Q * gerrit_ Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155112215 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155112217 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155112235 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155112238 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155112239 J * gerrit_ ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155112241 Q * gerrit_ Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155112255 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155112259 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155112275 J * gerrit_ ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155112278 Q * gerrit_ Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155112279 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155112280 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155112299 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155112301 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155112311 J * gerrit_ ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155112314 Q * gerrit_ Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155112319 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155112321 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155112339 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155112342 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155112347 J * gerrit_ ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155112350 Q * gerrit_ Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155112359 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155112362 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155112379 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155112383 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155112383 J * gerrit_ ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155112385 Q * gerrit_ Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155112399 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155112402 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155112419 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155112419 J * gerrit_ ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155112423 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155112423 Q * gerrit_ Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155112439 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155112441 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155112455 J * gerrit_ ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155112457 Q * gerrit_ Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155112459 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155112461 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155112479 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155112481 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155112491 J * gerrit_ ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155112495 Q * gerrit_ Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155112499 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155112500 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155112519 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155112521 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155112527 J * gerrit_ ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155112530 Q * gerrit_ Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155112539 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155112541 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155112559 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155112561 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155112563 J * gerrit_ ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155112579 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155112581 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155112582 Q * gerrit__ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1155112599 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155112600 J * gerrit__ ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155112601 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155112602 Q * gerrit__ Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155112619 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155112621 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155112635 J * gerrit__ ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155112638 Q * gerrit__ Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155112639 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155112641 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155112659 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155112661 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155112671 J * gerrit__ ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155112673 Q * gerrit__ Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155112679 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155112681 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155112699 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155112702 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155112710 J * gerrit__ ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155112714 Q * gerrit__ Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155112719 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155112724 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155112743 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155112743 J * gerrit__ ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155112747 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155112747 Q * gerrit__ Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155112763 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155112765 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155112779 J * gerrit__ ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155112783 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155112785 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155112786 J * Viper0482 ~Viper0482@p549755B2.dip.t-dialin.net
1155112803 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155112805 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155112816 J * rgl Rui@217.129.151.190
1155112820 M * rgl good morning
1155112823 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155112826 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155112843 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155112845 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155112863 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155112865 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155112869 J * gerrit ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155112874 Q * gerrit Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155112883 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155112885 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155112899 J * gerrit ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155112901 Q * gerrit Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155112903 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155112905 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155112923 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155112925 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155112935 J * gerrit ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155112937 Q * gerrit Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155112943 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155112945 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155112963 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155112965 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155112971 J * gerrit ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155112974 Q * gerrit Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155112983 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155112986 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155113003 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155113005 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155113007 J * gerrit ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155113009 Q * gerrit Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155113023 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155113025 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155113031 J * gerrit ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155113034 Q * gerrit Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155113043 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155113045 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155113047 Q * gerrit_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1155113063 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155113065 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155113083 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155113085 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155113103 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155113105 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155113123 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155113128 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155113147 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155113149 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155113167 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155113169 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155113187 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155113189 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155113207 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155113209 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155113227 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155113229 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155113247 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155113250 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155113254 J * coocoon ~coocoon@p54A06C40.dip.t-dialin.net
1155113267 Q * gerrit__ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1155113267 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155113270 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155113287 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155113291 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155113307 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155113309 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155113327 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155113329 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155113333 J * Igor2 igor2@catv-506284ed.catv.broadband.hu
1155113335 M * Igor2 hi
1155113347 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155113350 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155113367 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155113369 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155113380 M * Igor2 I'm really impressed by the token bucket scheduler vserver has, however it's a bit hard to fine tune it without seeing how much tokens something has at the moment. Is there a way to check that?
1155113387 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155113389 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155113407 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155113409 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155113427 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155113429 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155113433 M * SNy WTH?
1155113447 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155113449 M * rgl someone kick HomeRoey :D
1155113450 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155113457 M * Igor2 :)
1155113467 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155113469 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155113487 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155113489 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155113507 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155113510 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155113527 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155113529 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155113547 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155113550 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155113567 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155113572 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155113591 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155113593 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155113611 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155113612 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155113631 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155113633 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155113651 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155113653 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155113671 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155113673 Q * HomeRoey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155113691 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com
1155113693 Q * peaPEani12 Remote host closed the connection
1155114132 J * gerrit ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1155115565 J * pisc1 ~pampel@p508797D4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
1155116036 M * rgl Igor2, I don't known what you are asking (I'm a vserver newbie), but if you find it out, let me known :)
1155116143 M * Hollow Igor2: /proc/virtual/<xid>/sched
1155116603 Q * balbir autokilled: Session limit exceeded (2006/8/9 09.43)
1155116720 Q * shedi Quit: Leaving
1155116789 Q * GhostXz 
1155117780 M * Igor2 >hollow> thanx :)
1155117873 J * matti matti@linux.gentoo.pl
1155117911 M * matti Uj.
1155117925 M * matti harry have 3 days idle.
1155117938 M * matti harry: Dude, alive?
1155118000 M * sid3windr hmh
1155118012 M * sid3windr a vserver's clock says 11:54, host clock says 12:06
1155118015 M * sid3windr oh
1155118016 M * sid3windr I know why :p
1155118019 A * sid3windr slaps himself
1155118020 M * matti TZ?
1155118021 M * matti ;]
1155118047 M * sid3windr no
1155118052 M * sid3windr tz doesn't do minutes ;)
1155118054 M * Hollow hm, which timezone is +12 minutes? *g*
1155118055 Q * HomeRoey Quit: Client exiting
1155118061 M * sid3windr I moved that vserver to another machine a (long!) while ago
1155118066 M * sid3windr I was simply checking the wrong host ;/
1155118071 M * Hollow lol
1155118201 M * matti Heh, sorry.
1155118207 M * matti I am seriously tired.
1155118230 M * matti http://deadbeef.info/linux/patch-2.6.17.8-vs2.0.2-rc27-grsec2.1.9.diff
1155118236 M * matti Just clean-up.
1155118260 M * matti Oh, there's -rc28.
1155118263 M * matti Damn.
1155118266 M * matti I forgot.
1155118409 J * penso ~penso@212.27.33.226
1155118422 N * penso hap
1155118423 J * Val ~val@81.56.97.153
1155118429 M * Val hi
1155118454 M * hap hey val
1155118460 M * Val hey :)
1155118514 M * hap I installed postfix-policyd which tries to change rlimit, and it fails.
1155118529 M * hap is there a way to allow a software inside a vserver to change rlimit ? (RLIMIT_NOFILE)
1155118723 M * bubulak whereis -rc28 ?
1155118738 M * matti bubulak: http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/patch-2.6.17.7-vs2.0.2-rc28.diff
1155118742 M * bubulak thanks
1155118793 M * matti ;]
1155118831 M * matti WiKi link fixed.
1155118847 Q * derjohn Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1155118898 M * rgl I'm configuring the kernel, but I'm not sure if I should enable Quota format v2 support, what do you think?
1155118913 M * bubulak matti: and whit grsec ?
1155118923 M * bubulak with
1155119004 M * matti bubulak: There's no vs2.0.2-rc28 + grsec2.1.9 patch yet.
1155119014 M * bubulak ok 
1155119014 M * matti But, workin' on it now.
1155119046 M * bubulak http://ludit.kuleuven.be/software/vserver/
1155119141 M * matti Well yes, but harry is away, and there's no -rc28 with grsec yet ;]
1155119151 M * bubulak :)
1155119196 M * bubulak thats ok ... i wait :)
1155119299 J * eyck eyck@ghost.anime.pl
1155119317 M * matti Hi eyck.
1155119370 J * derjohn ~derjohn@dslb-084-058-253-194.pools.arcor-ip.net
1155119656 J * debugger_ Rui@217.129.151.190
1155119694 M * matti bubulak: Well so.
1155119721 M * matti bubulak: I seems, that harry applied fix from -rc28 a bit ealier than -rc28 was officially released.
1155119741 M * matti bubulak: So, you probably can use my little .8 clean-uped diff.
1155119761 M * matti I also need to rename it.
1155119766 M * matti ;]
1155119820 M * matti harry: Your job is well done as usual. Thanks!
1155119822 M * bubulak :)
1155119838 M * matti bubulak: Give me a second.
1155119851 M * bubulak i don't need that now
1155119857 M * bubulak just in one month
1155119869 M * matti A month?
1155119871 M * matti Oh my.
1155119873 M * matti :)
1155119874 M * bubulak when the slackware 11.0 released :)
1155119881 M * matti Geezz ;p
1155119882 M * matti How so?
1155119884 M * matti ;]
1155119936 M * bubulak i don't know ... just i want to reinstall mi server and waiting for new realese of slackware :)
1155120003 M * matti ;-)
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1155122600 J * kir ~kir@swsoft-mipt-nat.sw.ru
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1155123323 J * dna ~naucki@p54BCD2F8.dip.t-dialin.net
1155123739 Q * derjohn Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1155123744 J * derjohn ~derjohn@80.69.37.19
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1155125068 J * dna ~naucki@p54BCD2F8.dip.t-dialin.net
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1155125377 M * waldi Bertl_oO: i hope, you finaly removed the namespace cleanup, it segfaults ...
1155125967 Q * dna Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155125982 J * dna ~naucki@p54BCD2F8.dip.t-dialin.net
1155126199 J * renihs ~penguin@83-65-34-34.arsenal.xdsl-line.inode.at
1155126325 M * meebey_ how come that ncurses does not work at all in a vserver? debconf, mc, etc they all screw up
1155126421 M * waldi it does
1155126489 J * azazel ~azazel@81-174-47-147.f5.ngi.it
1155126573 M * meebey_ I mean when I am in a vserver via "vserver foo enter"
1155126579 M * mnemoc tty
1155126597 M * meebey_ it worked with the old vserver stuff, what do I need to change?
1155126793 M * sid3windr works fine for me
1155126873 J * rgl Rui@217.129.151.190
1155127324 Q * debugger_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1155127835 M * renihs for me too
1155127841 M * renihs maybe some terminal problems?
1155127871 M * harry me?
1155127907 M * harry is there new stuff to do for me?
1155127934 M * renihs yes, give me all your money :)
1155127939 M * renihs that would be nice
1155127942 M * harry account number?
1155127944 M * renihs :)
1155127950 M * harry do you accept debts? ;
1155127951 M * harry ;)
1155127956 M * renihs heh
1155128202 J * dna_ ~naucki@p54BCD2F8.dip.t-dialin.net
1155128562 Q * dna Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1155128687 Q * dna_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1155128802 M * harry 2.6.17.8-vs2.0.2-rc28-grsec2.1.9 online
1155128862 J * dna ~naucki@p54BCEA1B.dip.t-dialin.net
1155128946 J * meandtheshell ~markus@85-124-206-86.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at
1155128994 M * harry i will rename my 2.6.17.7 patch... since it's a rc28 instead of a rc27
1155129038 M * renihs ah thats why there is no digest :)
1155129052 M * renihs tsts
1155129171 M * harry cleaned patch online!!!1
1155129215 M * renihs very nice
1155129248 M * harry latest and greatest of everything , except the kernel, which ... lately... just sucks
1155129271 M * harry matti, bubulak : the 2.6.17.8 patch is online with rc28
1155129308 M * harry kinda cool... /me even patches faster than vserver guys themselves (you guys are the best! thanx!)
1155129437 J * Ben81 ~Ben81@tipi0e.lri.fr
1155129777 Q * yarihm Quit: Leaving
1155129932 M * harry all 2.6.17.7 patches have the newest grsec included aswell (to fix the spurious fork failure messages (only applicable if you enabled the fork failure logging feature))
1155129962 M * harry most people don't use it, but hell... it's fixes if you should use it :)
1155129981 M * renihs hmm didnt touch grsec ye
1155129982 M * renihs t
1155130046 J * Roey ~katz@h-69-3-4-130.mclnva23.covad.net
1155130046 M * harry just some added safety features...
1155130073 M * harry i like grsec , since it removes some obvious and simple ways to exploit kernels
1155130082 M * harry it makes it less "stockkernel"
1155130084 M * dos000 anyone: i build a custom kernel on sarge using make-kpkg --rootcmd fakeroot --revision. However after installing the .deb i tried compiling a module for the new kernel ...
1155130088 M * dos000 it keeps installing the modules under /lib/modules/2.6.14.3-vs2.0.1 instead of /lib/modules/2.6.14.3-vs2.0.1+vserver/  uname -r gives .6.14.3-vs2.0.1+vserver
1155130107 M * harry dos000: maybe the + ???
1155130146 M * harry why vs2.0.1+vserver
1155130163 M * harry why not: 2.0.1-vserver, or just vs2.0.1 ?
1155130177 M * harry is there a reason to have vs AND vserver in uname ?
1155130189 M * dos000 harry, i am suspecting the patchfile has +EXTRAVERSION = .3-vs2.0.1 ... instead of +EXTRAVERSION = .3-vs2.0.1+vserver
1155130212 M * doener the patch is supposed to have that EXTRAVERSION
1155130238 M * doener +vserver is, as harry said, redundant
1155130239 M * harry well... my patch has nothing appended to extraversion, but i use localversion-grsec and localversion-vserver
1155130244 M * dos000 doener, so its not supposed to be chamged ?
1155130254 Q * fs Remote host closed the connection
1155130260 M * doener it is changed, from .3 to .3-vs2.0.1
1155130264 M * harry no failing patches for the makefile because of a stupid minor release update :)
1155130317 M * dos000 harry, i am not sure where or why it is dropping the +vserver .. evrything else seems fine
1155130373 M * matti harry: Yes, I saw that :)
1155130440 Q * ||Cobra|| Remote host closed the connection
1155130522 M * harry dos000: prolly a programming error somewhere
1155130537 M * harry not escaping the +, and thus removing everything that follows
1155130548 A * harry boneidle, so i will not try to find out where
1155130553 M * harry so just remove the +vserver ;)
1155130610 M * dos000 harry, i have so many scritpts that depend on this !
1155130762 J * dna_ ~naucki@p54BCEA1B.dip.t-dialin.net
1155130898 J * dna___ ~naucki@p54BCEA1B.dip.t-dialin.net
1155131167 Q * dna Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1155131221 M * harry forgot to change the localversion-vserver... fixed on the patch now
1155131247 Q * dna_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1155131284 M * dos000 harry, so is my problem fixed now ?
1155131332 M * harry nope
1155131341 M * harry and i don't know how to fix it either
1155131349 N * dna___ dna
1155131636 J * Viper0482 ~Viper0482@p549755B2.dip.t-dialin.net
1155131902 J * okin ~niko@host181-12.pool871.interbusiness.it
1155131903 M * okin hi
1155131907 M * doener welcome okin 
1155131923 M * okin is it normal vserver does not have a gateway?
1155131933 M * okin thank you doener 
1155131961 M * doener yes, networking happens on the host, the vserver is just isolated, based on ip addresses
1155131984 M * okin the vserver can only connect to LAN hosts
1155132008 M * FaUl okin: thats not normal
1155132025 M * doener could you describe your setup?
1155132038 M * okin I'm using 2.6.17.8 + vs + grsec
1155132050 M * okin I can reach hosts does not need gateway
1155132059 M * okin hosts available in netmask
1155132071 M * okin e.g.: I set up 192.168.1.55/24 and I can reach only 192.168.1.0/24
1155132081 M * doener and your host has which ip address?
1155132096 M * okin my host has 192.168.1.1
1155132106 M * okin and I can reach vs from host and viceversa
1155132120 M * okin should I enable ip_forwarding?
1155132123 M * doener and your host can reach "the world" using that address as source?
1155132136 M * okin yes, the host can reach the world
1155132142 M * okin and is reachable from anywhere
1155132152 M * okin I used 192.168.1.0/24 as example, I use public IPs
1155132162 M * doener could you make the output of "ip a" and "ip r" available on http://paste.linux-vserver.org ?
1155132174 M * okin of the host?
1155132178 M * doener on the host, yes
1155132253 M * okin http://paste.linux-vserver.org/229
1155132295 M * okin from vserver I can reach xx.xxx.144.0/20 because hosts are in the same subnet mask and they does not need gateway
1155132337 M * okin *do not
1155132369 M * doener hm, "ip a" seems to be missing
1155132398 M * okin sorry, i'm going to paste it
1155132403 M * mnemoc now versions of iproute2 don't support that alias, you have to use 'ip addr'
1155132406 M * mnemoc new*
1155132433 M * doener mnemoc: really? that sucks
1155132450 M * mnemoc it's quite hard to get used to that
1155132455 M * mnemoc at least for me
1155132468 M * doener how new is "new"?
1155132490 M * mnemoc since the osdl took the maintainship
1155132494 M * okin http://paste.linux-vserver.org/230
1155132497 M * okin this is ip addr
1155132727 P * okin Leaving
1155132776 J * okin ~niko@host181-12.pool871.interbusiness.it
1155132800 M * okin after a reboot gateway is OK
1155132812 M * okin now I have problems with traceroute, how can I enable cap for a vserver?
1155132845 M * okin I know it's not pretty secure.. but I need it
1155132851 M * FaUl CAP_NET_RAW is the one - just put it into a file 'bcapabilitys' in /etc/vservers/$name
1155132860 M * doener s/y/ie/
1155132876 M * doener and maybe net_raw instead of CAP_NET_RAW? (I just can't remember that ;)
1155132876 M * FaUl i allways mess this up :-/
1155132893 M * FaUl uhm
1155132911 M * FaUl ok, its NET_RAW
1155132916 M * FaUl your  right
1155132921 A * FaUl stupid 
1155132922 M * FaUl ;-)
1155132939 M * okin I haven't bcapabilities filein /etc/vserver/$name
1155132941 M * okin should I create it?
1155132945 M * FaUl yes
1155132962 M * okin thx
1155132974 J * Milf ~Miranda@ipsio357.ipsi.fraunhofer.de
1155133154 M * doener okin: on the host, does this work? ping -I $VSERVER_IP_ADDRESS google.de
1155133167 M * okin now it's ok doener 
1155133168 M * okin thank you
1155134053 J * debugger_ Rui@217.129.151.190
1155134178 J * fs zora@213.178.77.98
1155134426 P * cryptronic Leaving
1155134440 Q * fs 
1155134449 J * fs fs@213.178.77.98
1155134454 J * cryptronic crypt@mail.openvcp.org
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1155135841 Q * Milf Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org
1155137169 J * Piet hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org
1155137230 J * stefani ~stefani@tsipoor.banerian.org
1155137299 J * Andrico ~Andrico@lncswibas01-pool5-a22.lncswi.tds.net
1155137516 M * Andrico I am an M$ whore. kick me.
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1155137764 J * ekc ~nospam@netblock-66-245-252-180.dslextreme.com
1155137787 M * Andrico Hello.
1155137877 J * teghe ~ert@83.110.124.125
1155137880 Q * dos000 Quit: Leaving
1155138324 J * coocoon ~coocoon@p54A07150.dip.t-dialin.net
1155138325 J * suka ~suka@bi01p1.co.us.ibm.com
1155138774 M * Andrico Hi.
1155139056 M * Andrico "Ey, Is dis place for VNC questions?
1155139227 Q * ekc Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1155139245 M * Andrico Well fuck yous den.
1155139300 P * Andrico 
1155139370 J * ekc ~nospam@netblock-66-245-252-180.dslextreme.com
1155139901 J * bonbons ~bonbons@83.222.36.236
1155139947 M * ekc What is the difference between hard and soft RSS rlimits?
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1155140968 J * Savvy ~SavvyChat@81.215.80.126
1155140989 J * pisco ~pampel@p5087805B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
1155141260 J * rgl Rui@217.129.151.190
1155141270 J * |gerrit| ~kvirc@dslb-084-060-214-016.pools.arcor-ip.net
1155141722 M * derjohn is there aldeady a fix for 2.6.17.8 and rc28? I get Hunk #8 FAILED at 288.
1155141722 M * derjohn 1 out of 8 hunks FAILED -- saving rejects to file fs/ext3/ioctl.c.rej
1155141722 M * derjohn patching file fs/ext3/namei.c
1155141729 Q * debugger_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
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1155141906 M * harry  derjohn : i didn't have any rejects...
1155141919 M * harry what's in the .rej file?
1155141953 M * harry derjohn: use my grsec + vserver patch, it's there for 2.6.17.8 ;)
1155142151 M * derjohn harry, then I would have to learn what GRSEC is :) (do i have to config anythign with GRSEC? or is it 'just there'?)
1155142163 M * derjohn harry, do you provide it as patch, too?
1155142178 P * okin Leaving
1155142199 M * derjohn if you dont have that reject I redo it from the fresh src ... maybe -R didnt run clean and I overlooked it.
1155142236 M * harry you don't have to config it
1155142238 M * harry but you could
1155142259 M * harry grsec is just a set of security patches
1155142282 M * harry really cool imho, and definately worth configing if you want to secure your box
1155142289 M * derjohn grsec is a stack-protection only? or more?
1155142293 M * harry more
1155142296 M * harry www.grsecurity.net
1155142311 M * derjohn RTFW ;)
1155142330 M * derjohn harry, does it compile on x86-64?
1155142331 M * harry RBAC, randomisation, stack protection, 
1155142340 M * derjohn ah, fine !
1155142342 M * harry yeah it did over here
1155142371 M * derjohn where is your patch set? is it vserver devel? or stable?
1155142375 A * harry still running 2.6.17.7 here tough...
1155142379 M * harry stable
1155142389 Q * ekc Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1155142390 M * derjohn oh, no capability masking ?
1155142402 M * harry http://linux-vserver.org/
1155142408 M * harry stable sources
1155142417 M * derjohn that's a feature I really need to avoid pacthed guest packages
1155142426 M * harry ?
1155142435 M * derjohn did you ever run bind in a guest?
1155142446 M * harry never tried it, no
1155142455 M * harry maybe someone else here did...
1155142457 M * harry i don't know
1155142470 M * harry seems like quite a few people use grsec + vserver patch
1155142476 M * derjohn bind9 ... it wont start when compiled without --capabilities (sp?)
1155142487 M * derjohn same goes for e.g. pure-ftpd
1155142525 M * derjohn those tools want tp drop the capabilities themselves, but in a guest the capability is already dropped. that leads to some error code and the daemon doesnt start.
1155142565 M * derjohn in devel there is a "masking" feature, that makes the guest think i could drop the capa ....
1155142582 M * cehteh one should fix that and a) make a patch repository for vserver users and b) send this patches upstream
1155142621 M * derjohn cehteh, already done for bind9. ( daniel_hozac did the bind9 patch ). I may only takes 5-10 years until ISC accepts the patch.
1155142645 M * mnemoc if you really have to use bind, configure it with --disable-linux-caps
1155142650 M * cehteh thats why i saied make a patch repository for vserver users
1155142664 M * derjohn cehteh, I filed a bug against debian sid ... for both counts: I didnt follow for some month as i simply use devel
1155142695 M * derjohn cehteh, on linux-vserver.derjohn.de there are prepatched packages, sladen also has such
1155142696 M * cehteh or how about a LD_PRELOAD lib which catches know troublemakers and silence them?
1155142723 M * derjohn mnemoc, well, for hoster it's always a mess to cope with several hundered guests on n maches like that.
1155142737 M * cehteh that means vserver-utils can ship with that lib and anyone can use precompiled bind, pure-ftp etc...
1155142744 M * derjohn (we dont that _that_ much yet, but it's growing ...)
1155142833 M * derjohn cehteh, well, LD_PRELOAD would imply a (pre)patched libc (?) ... I would say, the best way is to put that feature into stable . on the other hand: please don't becuase it's time for a stable release! (-rc28 ... it begins to get ridiculous ;))
1155142866 M * phedny isn't -rc standing for "Release Candidate" and should it not accept any new features at all?
1155142899 M * cehteh nope it would needs to be build for a specific libc version but doesnt require cahnges to libc or the binaries
1155142931 M * cehteh only when one wants to start a ugly program from a vserver the LD_PRELOAD should be set
1155142960 M * derjohn phedny, the devel version does IMHO ... stable not.
1155142977 M * cehteh thats kindof sexy since vserver-utils maintainers can somewhat runtime-patching flaws
1155142980 M * phedny I meant: isn't it supposed to ...
1155143016 Q * baggins Remote host closed the connection
1155143040 M * derjohn phedny, well, linux-vserver has a development model with separates between stable and devel releases. -rc are in both cases called 'experimental'
1155143049 J * baggins baggins@kenny.mimuw.edu.pl
1155143357 Q * baggins Remote host closed the connection
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1155143692 J * baggins baggins@kenny.mimuw.edu.pl
1155144287 J * ekc ~nospam@netblock-66-245-252-180.dslextreme.com
1155144853 Q * baggins Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155144855 J * baggins baggins@kenny.mimuw.edu.pl
1155144981 J * Belu_zZz B.Lukas@mail.openvcp.org
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1155147413 J * dna___ ~naucki@p54BCEA1B.dip.t-dialin.net
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1155149801 N * Belu_zZz Belu
1155150364 J * Lena ~happyhele@83.149.19.81
1155150396 M * Lena hi : )
1155150514 Q * ekc Remote host closed the connection
1155150557 M * matti harry: Around?
1155150798 M * harry yes
1155150802 M * harry for a min..
1155150992 M * harry not anymore
1155150993 A * harry gone
1155150994 M * harry sry
1155151046 P * Lena 
1155151550 Q * meandtheshell Remote host closed the connection
1155151592 J * meandtheshell ~markus@85-124-206-86.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at
1155151672 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1155151676 M * Bertl evening folks!
1155152610 M * meandtheshell hi Bertl
1155152649 M * debugger_ yellow :D
1155152652 N * debugger_ rgl
1155152659 J * Pazzo ~thomas@dialin-225136.rol.raiffeisen.net
1155152684 M * rgl Bertl, who do you maintain your patches?  you use git or something like that?
1155152696 M * rgl rtt s,who,how :D
1155152795 M * Bertl I basically have a big tree of hard linked kernels (>1500)
1155152825 M * Bertl and a huge number of deltas (small patches), similar to quilt, but it would also map easily to git
1155152899 M * meandtheshell Bertl: what do you think about Subversion in this case?
1155152916 M * rgl Bertl, using some home-made scripts?
1155152931 M * Bertl meandtheshell: svn, mercurial and cvs is not suited for kernel development
1155152941 M * Bertl rgl: yep, precisely
1155152975 M * meandtheshell Bertl: why do you think so?
1155153000 M * Bertl because I tried them :)
1155153009 M * meandtheshell lol
1155153010 M * rgl Bertl, are you considering migrating to git?   (at least everyone would have the same "std" thing, so easy to share, but you known that ;)
1155153034 M * Bertl rgl: yes, we already 'agreed' to migrate to git sooner or later
1155153052 M * rgl Bertl, ah ok :D
1155153061 M * Bertl but it should be quite easy to make git trees from my current releases too
1155153081 M * Bertl and IIRC, some folks are doing so already
1155153085 M * rgl Bertl, there is a mercurial tree for linux at kernel.org :D
1155153116 M * meandtheshell Bertl: for real - what drawbacks have you encountered using svn for example?
1155153125 M * meandtheshell is it to slow?
1155153132 M * Bertl it doesn't scale in several aspects
1155153135 M * Hollow Bertl: would be nice to test the current git setup.. i'm not sure it will work out the way i set it up ..
1155153155 M * Bertl first, you cannot have like 1500 trees within reasonable amount of space
1155153165 M * rgl Bertl, http://kernel.org/hg/linux-2.6/
1155153195 M * Bertl second, it's almost impossible to do parallel migrations, e.g. kernel version and vserver version
1155153220 M * Bertl third, interdiffs between versions take ages, while I absically have everything in the disk cache :)
1155153246 M * rgl and when using git all of that pain disapears?
1155153261 M * Bertl git is using hardlinks as I do now
1155153280 M * Bertl it uses a slightly different naming scheme, but that is fine
1155153302 M * Bertl also merging of branches seems to work a lot better in git
1155153310 M * rgl so start using it! :)
1155153323 M * rgl (or share all your scripts with the rest of the world hehe)
1155153325 M * Bertl I already test drove it a few days ...
1155153334 M * meandtheshell Bertl: ok - but as far as I can tell svn uses just little deltas now as well and makes heavy use of hardlinking in background ...
1155153363 M * Bertl but it was _too_ complicated at that time (should have become more simpler now, and probably more consistant too)
1155153393 M * rgl Bertl, and how did it go?  did you like it?
1155153403 M * meandtheshell Bertl: yes - most likely - I'm talking about Subersion >=1.3
1155153427 M * Bertl meandtheshell: if you feel like, setup an svn repository and check in all the 2.6 ekrnels, plus all release verserver versions for 2.6 then we'll see :)
1155153461 M * meandtheshell Bertl: no problem - if you bring by a new computer - a really fat one :)
1155153465 M * Bertl if checking out a version and applying a patch takes longer than 20 seconds, you lost :)
1155153524 M * Bertl rgl: as I already pointed out, it is very similar to what I do right now
1155153554 M * Bertl rgl: so it's probably just adjusting to the new syntax
1155153577 M * rgl Bertl, ah cool :)
1155153631 M * rgl I've been reading on how to setup normal quotas inside a context at http://linux-vserver.org/Standard+non-shared+quota and I'm wondering if thats the right way to do it?
1155153647 M * meandtheshell Bertl: to be honest again -- I do have plans to put more time into Linux-VServer -- to spend some days on that Issue can't be wrong anyways ... If nothing useful comes up we just no - that's at least something :)
1155153683 M * meandtheshell s/no/know/
1155153748 M * Bertl rgl: hmm, what is the problem you see? (haven't looked at that page)
1155153804 M * rgl Bertl, I don't known if thats a problem, but that pages says we have to enable the vroot device, and there can be at most 8 of them (which seems low)
1155153834 M * Bertl yes, the vroot devices makes quota secure, and no, there are 8 there by default (as with loop)
1155153847 M * Bertl the maximum number is 255 loop/vroot devices
1155153914 M * rgl Bertl, ah ok.
1155153918 M * matti Bertl: :-))))
1155153933 M * rgl Bertl, so thats the only way to use quotas inside a guest?
1155154147 Q * |gerrit| Quit: KVIrc 3.2.0 'Realia'
1155154443 M * Bertl rgl: if you want to have control over the quota (inside) it's the suggested way
1155154479 M * Bertl rgl: shared quota (per guest quota on a shared partition) needs somebody to test it, and probably a week or so of adjustments
1155154508 M * Bertl rgl: and host configured quota (for guests) doesn't need a vroot device at all
1155154542 J * Hurga nobody@p508AB7C7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
1155154561 M * rgl Bertl, "host configured quota" means the guest needs to have the same uid/gid has the host, right?
1155154600 M * rgl oh, and we can't have quotas on the host, correct?
1155154643 M * Bertl sure you can have quotas on the host, why not?
1155154670 M * rgl because of that shared uid/gid question
1155154758 M * Bertl well, as I said, without shared quota you ahve to have a _separate_ partition anyway
1155154817 M * rgl yeah, but you can't enable quotas on the host?
1155154912 M * Bertl you can enable quotas on the host or on the guest as you like, fact is, you have only a sinlge quota hash for every filesystem :)
1155154926 M * Bertl s/every/each&
1155155035 J * dna ~naucki@p54BCEA1B.dip.t-dialin.net
1155155045 M * Bertl wb Hurga! dna!
1155155057 M * Hurga Hiya Bertl.
1155155060 M * dna huhu
1155155073 M * rgl humm, so if you create a file from the host inside the the gust filesystem it gets accounted on the quota of the guest?
1155155141 M * Bertl it gets accounted on the one quota hash available to that filesystem, if you say that's belonging to the guest (your definition) then that's right :)
1155155220 M * rgl ah, now I understand what you said by "shared quota" :)
1155155244 M * rgl and thanks for the tips :)
1155155265 M * rgl Bertl,  what tests do you want me to do?
1155155273 M * Bertl just to clarify :) with shared quota I mean ahving more than one hash per filesystem
1155155303 M * Bertl well, the method I developed for allowing this consists of 4 parts/patches
1155155306 M * rgl what is a hash?
1155155313 M * rgl (in this context ;)
1155155327 M * Bertl the first part is xid tagging (i.e. making filesystems context aware)
1155155343 M * Bertl this is already part of 2.6 stable and devel, so no big deal
1155155357 M * rgl but using the vroot device needs xid tags?
1155155378 M * rgl isn't that only for context "global" quotas?
1155155406 M * Bertl the vroot device is only a proxy to work around quota design flaws
1155155426 M * Bertl it does simply relay quota ioctls, but block everything else
1155155458 M * Bertl if quota was designed a little smarter than it actually is, the vroot device would be obsolote
1155155462 Q * dna___ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1155155540 M * Bertl the second step/part is changing from the 'current' quota structures to quota hashes (or more precisely to a single quota hash)
1155155564 M * rgl you are talking too low level for me *G*
1155155565 J * ekc ~nospam@netblock-66-245-252-180.dslextreme.com
1155155571 M * Bertl this has been done too (i.e. I ported that part to 2.6 a long time ago, we have quota hashes in 2.6 devel)
1155155576 M * Bertl wb ekc!
1155155593 M * Bertl the missing parts are the following:
1155155617 M * Bertl - extend the concept from a single hash to several hashes
1155155632 M * Bertl   (host, and each guest potentially gets one)
1155155653 M * Bertl - add the interfaces to setup and control those hashes
1155155674 J * debugger_ ~Rui@217.129.151.190
1155155679 M * Bertl both is not very complex and/or hard, but it needs a _lot_ of testing, as we saw on 2.4
1155155693 M * Bertl wb debugger_/rui :)
1155155732 N * debugger_ rgl_
1155155740 M * rgl_ :D
1155155741 M * ekc hello. If i'm using hard cpu scheduling, is there any benefit from setting the nproc rlimit? I understand that prio scheduling can be exploited if nproc is not set. 
1155155758 M * Bertl rgl_: so, if you really want to test here you have to create some kind of test script which verifies the various quota cases
1155155792 M * Bertl ekc: yes, there is a benefit, you can save the machine from crashing from a fork bomb :)
1155155802 M * rgl_ Bertl, and which cases are those?  I suppose you have one of those scripts you used for testing 2.4?
1155155821 M * Bertl rgl_: unfortunately no, we did all that by hand back then
1155155836 M * Bertl rgl_: if such a script would exist, it would have been done already
1155155853 M * rgl_ Bertl, I have no ideia what are the corner cases of quota :/
1155155861 M * Bertl but there are some fragments I have, which could be used
1155155887 M * Bertl well, quota comes in two flavors, hard and soft
1155155918 M * Bertl and we have three 'general' cases, quota on the host, guest A and guest B
1155155936 M * Bertl and two variants, user and group quota
1155155962 M * ekc bertl: wouldn't setting AS and RSS limits prevent a fork bomb from oversubscribing memory? How else could it crash the host?
1155155968 M * Bertl each one falls into at least two cases, u/gid=0 and u/gid!=0
1155155969 M * rgl_ so so good :)
1155155978 M * rgl_ so far, so good :)  
1155155996 M * Bertl ekc: well, probably, but you said nothing about such limits :)
1155155997 A * rgl_ understood something that Bertl said!  hurray! :)
1155156016 M * Bertl ekc: nevertheless it's better to have an upper limit there anyway
1155156067 M * ekc right. what do you usually set it to?
1155156119 Q * rgl Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1155156205 M * ekc besides nproc, RSS, AS, memlock, and hard cpu scheduling, what other limits are useful for stoping exploits?
1155156209 M * Bertl for all the limits I suggest to use the current value as a guide, let's say, multiply it by 3-5 and have that as a limit
1155156216 M * ekc ok
1155156245 M * Bertl that usually gives the guest enough room to move, but avoids bad surprises
1155156246 M * ekc I have disk quotas on, too.
1155156311 M * ekc ok. i'm trying to cover all of my bases.
1155156423 J * mire ~mire@16-166-222-85.COOL.ADSL.VLine.Verat.NET
1155156448 M * Bertl rgl_: now what needs to be tested is 'creating', 'moving', and 'deleting' files and inodes for each case, and between each case, within the limits and over limit
1155156567 M * rgl_ Bertl, I see.  what unit/functional test library do you use?
1155156610 M * Bertl all tests done so far were done with simple bash scripts
1155156625 M * Bertl and the std quota tools :)
1155156699 M * rgl_ are there any restrictions, like, can one use ruby, python, perl for this?
1155156717 M * rgl_ or, you prefer this stuff in sh?
1155156724 P * pisco 
1155156789 M * Bertl rgl_: basically I'd say you get a patch (kernel) from me, do some setup and testing, and report back what's not working, then I figure a solution, and you get a new back (at which point the circle closes)
1155156821 M * Bertl so in this scenario, I do not care about the test env
1155156847 M * Bertl of course, it might be better to keep it less exotic, so that future testing might be possible :)
1155156873 M * Bertl I do not consider perl or python that problematic, ruby might be more unusual in test setups
1155156983 M * rgl_ ok :)
1155156992 Q * teghe Quit: e
1155157016 M * Bertl rgl_: OTOH :) the testme.sh and testfs.sh are bash scripts ...
1155157026 M * rgl_ I have installed vanilla 2.6.16.7 with 2.0.2-rc28
1155157045 M * rgl_ is that combination good enough to get started?
1155157055 M * Bertl okay, that's a good start, for getting the basic tests working
1155157066 M * Bertl for the quota tests we will need 2.1.x + patches
1155157102 M * Bertl but basically all the 'single guest' tests are supposed to work for the host system too (i.e. that is what you can test right now)
1155157135 A * Belu is away (iŽll be back later...)
1155157135 N * Belu Belu_zZz
1155157399 M * rgl_ Bertl, OK :)
1155157413 M * rgl_ Bertl, I'm having problems to setup quotas :(
1155157429 M * rgl_ Bertl, can you look at http://pastie.caboo.se/7842?  it contains what I did to enable them :
1155157864 M * rgl_ Bertl, oh, running quota inside the guest as a normal user does not work too :(
1155157915 M * Bertl rgl_: forget the guest or linux-vserver for now :)
1155157929 M * Bertl just try with the host and quota ...
1155158092 M * ekc If I don't set limits on file handles and file system locks, will that open the host to any attack vectors (assuming RSS/AS are set)?
1155158388 M * Bertl it can, when the guest start allocating file handles and you run out of them
1155158404 M * Bertl (usually nothing which happens accidentially)
1155158507 M * ekc btw, does anyone know what the vcmd tool does? I found it at: http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/TOOLS/
1155158560 M * ekc hmmm. then, i better set limits on file handles, too.
1155158867 M * Bertl ekc: yes, it can control all the linux-vserver kernel interfaces
1155158926 M * Bertl here are two examples: http://wiki.linux-vserver.org/Linux-VServer-Hacks
1155159291 M * rgl_ Bertl, oh, I didnt have the quota_v2 module on the kernel :/  now it works on the host.
1155159384 M * Bertl good ...
1155159402 M * rgl_ Bertl, did you look at http://pastie.caboo.se/7842?  is that the correct way to use vrsetup?  that is, one should first run vrsetup and then mount?  (the two first lines on that url)
1155159441 M * Bertl the order doesn't matter, the vroot device needs to 'know' the real device, and needs to be present inside the guest
1155159461 M * Bertl as I already said, it is not related to the quota stuff at all
1155159466 P * stefani I'm Parting (the water)
1155159476 M * Bertl I would also suggest to do all the testing first with the real block devices
1155159533 M * rgl_ Bertl, and do I have to mount using quotas on the host?
1155159628 M * Bertl as I said, for now, _just_ quota on the host, no guests :)
1155159686 M * rgl_ Bertl, yes, but I'm eager to see this working inside the guest :)
1155159707 M * Bertl ah, so you are trying to get quota working not to work on testing it :)
1155159734 M * Bertl well, then the setup is the _same_ as on the host, just with the vroot device, as described in all the howtos
1155159766 M * rgl_ no, don't get me wrong, first I want to make it work like the howto, then I'll make the tests :D
1155159786 M * ekc bertl: wow. vcmd is a powerful tool. i can call all the syscall commands. documentation is a bit sparse, though :) guess that's what the source is for 
1155159787 M * rgl_ (well, I want them on real ;)
1155159803 M * Bertl ekc: yep, it's a hack/test tool for myself
1155159888 M * Bertl rgl_: as I said, should not be any problem, if it works on the host, just give the quota cap to the guest and configure/copy the vroot device and you're done
1155159937 A * harry back
1155159957 T * harry http://linux-vserver.org/ | latest stable 2.01, 1.2.10, 1.2.11-rc1, devel 2.1.0, exp 2.{0.2,1.1}-rc28, stable+grsec 2.0.2-rc2
1155159969 M * rgl_ Bertl, but I have a doubt, should I mount the guest fs using quotas?
1155159973 T * harry http://linux-vserver.org/ | latest stable 2.01, 1.2.10, 1.2.11-rc1, devel 2.1.0, exp 2.{0.2,1.1}-rc28, stable+grsec 2.0.2-rc28 | util-vserver-0.30.210 | libvserver-1.0.2 & vserver-utils-1.0.3 | He who asks a question is a fool for a minute; he who doesn't ask is a fool for a lifetime -- share the gained knowledge on the wiki, and we'll forget about the minute ;)
1155160004 M * rgl_ (on the host that is)
1155160006 M * Bertl rgl_: do you need/do that on the host?
1155160017 M * Bertl well, then you want to do similar for the guest
1155160035 M * Bertl the only difference for the guest is that you want an mtab entry with ufs
1155160043 M * Bertl instead of ext23/reiser/whatever
1155160076 M * Bertl (this is to work around them quota tools being too smart)
1155160080 M * rgl_ Bertl, I don't known if I need it on the host, but I suppose I need, because if I create files in the host context inside the guest fs, I want them to be accounted too.
1155160196 Q * dna Quit: Verlassend
1155160273 M * Bertl rgl_: it really depends on the filesystem and the quota type
1155160296 M * rgl_ Bertl, how I'm supposed to known?
1155160311 M * rgl_ Bertl, I'm using ext3, and user and group quotas.
1155160361 M * Bertl well, there are two options for quota, journaled (no quota files) and 'normal'
1155160386 M * Bertl the journaled version needs a mount option to be activated at mount time
1155160401 M * Bertl the normal one just needs the files at the quota-on time
1155160404 M * rgl_ ah, journaled seem much better, no?
1155160428 M * Bertl in theory yes, but IIRC the quota tools do not cope with them too well
1155160448 M * Bertl but maybe that changed in the meantime ...
1155160459 M * rgl_ ah ok.
1155160494 M * rgl_ so, using normal quota files, I don't need to mount the guest file system with quotas?
1155160530 M * Bertl you need to provide 'certain' options so that the tools assume quota enabled
1155160542 M * Bertl but IIRC it is sufficient to have them listed in the mtab
1155160741 M * rgl_ ah ok.
1155160839 M * rgl_ how do I reverse a vrsetup /dev/vroot0 /dev/sdb1 ?
1155160853 M * Bertl vrsetup -d /dev/vroot0
1155160857 M * Bertl as with losetup
1155160866 M * rgl_ ah ok :)
1155161057 M * rgl_ Bertl, if I don't mount the guest fs with quota, the guest quota commands do not work :/
1155161097 M * harry Bertl: if i want all vservers in 1 big nfs volume, is there a way to get "qouta" per vserver?
1155161308 J * Aiken ~james@tooax6-199.dialup.optusnet.com.au
1155161492 Q * ekc Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1155161522 Q * sladen Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1155161783 J * sladen paul@starsky.19inch.net
1155161789 M * doener hm, I'm just reading a newsforge article on GPLv3 and wonder what will happen to eg. the TiVo folks... if the GPLv3 will really enforce that keys need to be handed out, they better have no single program in there that says "at your opinion ... v2 or later"...
1155161800 M * Aiken is patch-2.6.17.7-vs2.1.1-rc28.n.diff a replacement for patch-2.6.17.7-vs2.1.1-rc28.diff ?
1155161812 M * Bertl harry: you'll have disk limits if you use a patched nfs server
1155161838 M * Bertl harry: but guest quota would require a 2.4 kernel or the beforementioned patches :)
1155161860 M * Bertl rgl_: well, then the 'current' quota systems/tools need that :)
1155161861 M * harry Bertl: so guest quota is independant of the underlying fs/implementation
1155161862 M * harry kinkhy
1155161874 M * Bertl harry: no, you got that wrong
1155161894 M * Bertl harry: _disk limits_ only require _xid_ tagging
1155161913 M * Bertl so when you ahve filesystem xid tagging, you get disk limits
1155161931 M * Bertl shared quota are not implemented yet
1155161932 J * ekc ~nospam@netblock-66-245-252-180.dslextreme.com
1155161937 M * harry ahaa
1155161938 M * harry tnx
1155161954 M * Bertl np
1155162023 Q * sladen charon.oftc.net kinetic.oftc.net
1155162023 Q * renihs charon.oftc.net kinetic.oftc.net
1155162023 Q * hap charon.oftc.net kinetic.oftc.net
1155162023 Q * MrX charon.oftc.net kinetic.oftc.net
1155162129 J * sladen paul@starsky.19inch.net
1155162129 J * renihs ~penguin@83-65-34-34.arsenal.xdsl-line.inode.at
1155162129 J * hap ~penso@212.27.33.226
1155162129 J * MrX ~urk@219.95.238.183
1155162193 Q * hap Remote host closed the connection
1155162206 J * hap ~penso@212.27.33.226
1155162284 J * virtuoso_ ~s0t0na@shisha.spb.ru
1155162388 Q * virtuoso Read error: Connection reset by peer
1155162511 M * doener Bertl: btw, any progress with the wiki sql dump?
1155162602 M * Bertl hmm? I already sent the dump to hollow a few days ago?
1155162613 M * doener ah ok
1155162628 M * Bertl but he requested something else too, IIRC
1155162807 M * rgl_ Bertl, these http://pastie.caboo.se/7858 are the tests I'm thinking on making, but since I don't known the corner cases, its a bit hard to come up with significant tests :/
1155162837 M * FaUl doener: because i'm not sure what gplv3/v4/v5/vwhatever will bring, my code is strict gplv2 - it will become gplv3 if I decide 
1155162865 J * debugger_ Rui@217.129.151.190
1155162899 N * debugger_ rgl
1155163031 M * ekc If I have P guests running and I want each guest to use max 1/P of CPU time (hard cpu limit), and I start some new guests, is there anyway to make it so that I don't have to re-run vsched for each of the P guests?
1155163064 M * ekc i.e. is there a such thing as dynamic hard CPU limits? (based on the number of running guests)
1155163223 M * Bertl yes, you can use the idle time feature of the new scheduler (in devel)
1155163279 M * Hollow Bertl: htdocs that is ;)
1155163298 M * ekc sounds great. what is the idle time feature? didn't see any mention of that here: http://linux-vserver.org/Scheduler+Parameters
1155163330 Q * rgl_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1155163335 M * Bertl Hollow: hmm hmm, from what?
1155163345 M * Hollow the old wiki
1155163367 M * Hollow + add oldwiki.* to dns
1155163439 M * Bertl hmm, the /var/www/html/ of the tavi wiki does not cotnain anything except the link to the tavi script?
1155163512 M * Bertl and oldwiki should point where?
1155163534 M * Hollow well, you said you did some patches to tavi, so i waited instead of setting up a fresh one with your sql dump
1155163546 M * Hollow 85.10.237.61
1155163555 M * Bertl ah, so you want the tavi sources, okay ...
1155163583 M * Bertl JFYI, they are better kept outside htdoc/html
1155163657 M * Hollow yup.. maybe you can add the .htaccess/vhost conf to the tar, but i don't think there should be any special case ugliness..?
1155163882 M * Bertl okay, dns is updated and propagating
1155163908 M * rgl Bertl, did you look at the pastie page? :D
1155163964 M * Hollow great, i will setup the redirection map tomorrow then..
1155163973 M * Bertl rgl: hmm, yeah, it's a little sparse ...
1155163987 M * Hollow if all works we are ready to switch..
1155164009 M * rgl Bertl, yeah, because I don't known the corner cases :/
1155164080 M * Bertl okay, once again, you have inodes and blocks
1155164092 M * Bertl so naturally both ahve to be tested
1155164111 M * Bertl then you have group and user quotas
1155164143 M * Bertl so 'quotas' can move between guests, (that includes the host, as xid=0)
1155164169 M * Bertl and quotas can move between uids (that includes root)
1155164184 M * Bertl this gives you a good matrix of what to test
1155164302 M * rgl "and quotas can move between uids" as in with chown and chgroup?
1155164338 M * Bertl yep, same as with chxid :)
1155164539 M * rgl OK :D
1155164567 M * rgl Bertl, where are the testme.sh and testfs.sh that you've mentioned earlier?
1155164882 J * shedi ~siggi@inferno.lhi.is
1155164908 M * Bertl Hollow: ok, tavi is on it's way ...
1155164914 M * Hollow thanks!
1155164959 M * Hollow Bertl: guess we can switch next week, if that is ok for you..
1155164964 M * Bertl rgl: http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/SCRIPT/
1155164985 M * Bertl Hollow: no need to hurry, but yes, will look through the colors and such this weekend
1155165018 M * Hollow sure.. but the sooner we switch, the sooner people add things to the new wiki ;)
1155165026 M * Bertl yep, right
1155165219 M * Bertl okay, I'm off for now .. maybe back later ...
1155165225 M * Bertl have fun!
1155165231 M * Hollow i'm off to, till tomorrow
1155165232 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
1155165466 M * rgl bye bye
1155165474 Q * rgl Quit: Fui embora
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