1154995360 M * FaUl thanxs a lot 1154995466 A * FaUl just added the url to tools+and+patches-page ;-) 1154995607 M * Hurga Bertl: I seem to remember you once needed to do chmod 000 /vservers for security reasons... is that still needed? 1154995673 M * Bertl nope, that was only for very early legacy guests 1154995701 M * Hurga my setup was very old :) 1154995702 M * Bertl i.e. that has been replaced with the barrier on 2.4 kernels more than two years ago 1154995719 M * Bertl 2.6 kernel never used that 1154995736 A * Hurga was running RedHat 6.2 on a RedHat 9 vserver host. 1154995781 M * FaUl RedHat 6.2 was my last redhat i ever used ;-) 1154995785 M * Hurga The RedHat 6.2 vserver still runs on the current host... I'm amazed about that :) 1154995803 M * Bertl and I was worried because I still have mandrake 8.2 guests :) 1154995834 A * Aiken still has a rh62 host 1154995877 M * Hurga 6.2 was great. It went downhill from there. 1154995902 M * Bertl that's not much different from most other distros ... 1154995934 M * Bertl I remember SuSE 5.x and after 6.3 it went downhill 1154995960 M * Aiken mandrake 7.2 was the last mandrake I liked 1154995960 M * Bertl same is currently happening with Mandriva (or better for some time now) 1154995965 M * Hurga It took me some time to find a new favourite distro. Suse at work... hated it 1154995975 M * Aiken rh7.3 was the last I used then went lfs 1154995979 M * Hurga It's Ubuntu now... 1154995985 M * Bertl 8.2 was fine to work with .. 9.x acceptable 10.x a catastrophy :/ 1154996010 M * Hurga Bertl: I still have 8.2 on my desktop at work. guess why :) 1154996029 A * FaUl likes gentoo - ok - some things suck, realy like fucking xorg-6.9 blocks five millions of xorg7-packages 1154996029 M * Bertl same here, heavily patched 8.2 ... 1154996057 M * FaUl ok - that may also be because xorg 7 realy sucks ;-) 1154996069 M * Bertl well, it's the first modular verison 1154996081 M * Bertl which IMHO is definitely a step in the right direction 1154996116 M * FaUl yes - and they fucked everything up with autoconf/automake, IMHO its some of the worst things ever invented ;-) 1154996141 M * Hurga FaUl: don't remind me. I was in Frankfurt this weekend upgrading my machine, and one of a friend. The other one was gentoo. It is really interesting to try to compile all kinds of stuff with a *slightly* inconsistent Linux softraid... 1154996187 M * FaUl Hurga: uhm i don't use gentoo on servers after all 1154996201 M * FaUl only on desktop-mashines where bleeding-edge is what I want ;-) 1154996209 M * Hurga wise decision :) 1154996236 M * FaUl on servers i'm used to use debian or some hombrewed special-distribution ;-) 1154996237 M * Hurga Well the other guy is a bit less conservative than me. 1154996270 M * Hurga Xen-experimental on gentoo and junk hardware. 1154996286 M * FaUl anyway - inconsestent raid is very bad anyway 1154996300 M * FaUl Hurga: you may do that on test maschines ;-) 1154996324 M * FaUl but then you shold not complain if it breaks 1154996345 M * FaUl anyway, its late now, i've to go to bad now, n8 1154996348 M * Hurga FaUl: it was fun. copy the toolchain over from another machine. compile kernel. Works. Compile another kernel gcc error. It took us some time to figure it out... 1154996358 M * FaUl hehe 1154996361 M * Hurga good night! 1154996434 M * FaUl hopefully my new g550 arrives tomorrow as this kvm-switch realy fucks up the picture-quality on my new screen ;-) 1154996476 M * FaUl anyway, n8 ;-) 1154996690 M * Bertl night FaUl! 1155004612 Q * Hurga Remote host closed the connection 1155005274 M * SkramDaMan vhashify is stable, right? 1155005314 M * Bertl yes, but Enrico still 'calls' it alpha 1155005324 M * SkramDaMan where doesn Enrico hang out? 1155005347 M * Bertl no idea, he used to hang around here, but not since a year or so 1155005422 M * SkramDaMan Failed to initialize unification for vserver 1155005423 M * SkramDaMan hrmph 1155005443 M * Bertl you need to initialize the dirs like for vunify 1155005452 M * Bertl it's described on the alpha util-vserver page 1155005456 M * SkramDaMan okay 1155005499 J * lilo2_ hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org 1155005577 Q * lilo2 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1155005607 M * SkramDaMan Bertl: http://linux-vserver.org/?action=find&find=alpha+util-vserver take forever to load for you? 1155005646 M * Bertl the old wiki isn't very fast in searching, but I always use google for that 1155005659 M * SkramDaMan okay 1155005663 M * SkramDaMan http://linux-vserver.org/alpha+util-vserver 1155005925 M * SkramDaMan Thanks 1155006007 M * Bertl np 1155006271 M * Nam gotta love google 1155006651 M * Bertl yeah, google is one of the really useful inventions of the last century ... similar to wikipedia 1155006697 M * Nam and holographic technologies... eventhough they arn't hitting the consumer market well 1155006718 M * Nam i saw a company who had a holographic display which was 3d and interactive 1155006758 M * Nam it was used for business meetings, being able to show an entire building's blueprints and touch parts to zoom or get information about them 1155006788 M * Nam holographic storage is going to rock as well... hehe, 40petabytes per disk 1155006790 M * Nam MMmmm 1155007210 J * balbir ~balbir@59.144.37.121 1155007237 M * Bertl welcome balbir! 1155007718 Q * Johan Read error: Operation timed out 1155010180 Q * FireEgl Quit: Bye... 1155010311 J * s0undt3ch vqrtbnvj@bl7-240-95.dsl.telepac.pt 1155010831 J * FireEgl ~FireEgl@Atlantica.CJB.Net 1155011060 J * Aiken_ ~james@tooax6-038.dialup.optusnet.com.au 1155011393 Q * Aiken Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1155011682 M * Bertl okay, I'm off to bed now .. have a good one everyone, cya! 1155011691 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1155012628 Q * s0undt3ch Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1155012739 J * Johan ~finger@lounge.datux.nl 1155012904 J * s0undt3ch jcihcqq@bl7-240-95.dsl.telepac.pt 1155013285 Q * Johan Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1155013513 Q * s0undt3ch Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1155013719 J * s0undt3ch auxtyk@bl7-242-47.dsl.telepac.pt 1155015260 M * SkramDaMan Slow night when Bertl_zZ leaves 1155015261 M * SkramDaMan :( 1155015673 Q * ntrs Remote host closed the connection 1155017107 N * lilo2_ lilo2 1155017551 J * s0undt3ch_ yjffoot@bl7-244-104.dsl.telepac.pt 1155017558 Q * s0undt3ch Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1155017561 N * s0undt3ch_ s0undt3ch 1155018661 J * Savvy`zZ ~SavvyChat@81.215.94.33 1155018742 J * SkramX ~skram@the.telephreak.org 1155018942 Q * SkramDaMan Read error: Connection reset by peer 1155019170 Q * maharaja Remote host closed the connection 1155019303 J * yarihm ~yarihm@whitehead2.nine.ch 1155019728 J * dna ~naucki@152-207-dsl.kielnet.net 1155019892 N * Savvy`zZ Savvy 1155020491 J * Piet hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org 1155021832 Q * FireEgl Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1155021897 J * ||Cobra|| ~cob@pc-csa01.science.uva.nl 1155022647 J * FireEgl ~FireEgl@Atlantica.US.TO 1155022772 Q * balbir Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1155023445 J * balbir ~balbir@125.22.41.4 1155023518 Q * |coocoon| Quit: KVIrc 3.2.0 'Realia' 1155023664 J * pisco ~pampel@p5084E3E1.dip.t-dialin.net 1155023853 M * SkramX Hi. How could I make it.. so after someone does "vserver name enter" it asks for another password 1155023867 M * SkramX such as that vps' root.. or a password specified elsewhere 1155024007 J * rgl Rui@217.129.151.190 1155024012 M * rgl goood morning! 1155024047 M * SkramX hi 1155024475 J * Milf ~Miranda@ipsio217.ipsi.fraunhofer.de 1155024508 Q * zkbrsnie 1155024886 J * coocoon ~coocoon@p54A07ABA.dip.t-dialin.net 1155025268 M * Piet SkramX: sudo 1155025289 M * SkramX Piet: nope.. I want to have ANOTHER password to get into a VPS 1155025309 M * SkramX so they ssh in.. then to get into a vps, they enter another password 1155025352 M * Piet what's the added benefit of this? 1155025391 M * SkramX nevermind 1155025415 M * Piet sudo would allow you to do just this btw 1155025468 M * Piet if you combine it with ssh key authentication 1155025484 M * SkramX hmm 1155025511 M * Piet i don't really think it makes much sense from a security pov, though 1155025555 J * _SCORPION_ ~Kacak-4-@85.101.235.229 1155025591 Q * _SCORPION_ 1155025617 J * _SCORPION_ ~Kacak-4-@85.101.235.229 1155025702 J * renihs ~penguin@83-65-34-34.arsenal.xdsl-line.inode.at 1155026113 Q * _SCORPION_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1155026214 J * _IMMORTAL_ ~Kacak-4-@85.101.235.229 1155026516 M * Nam hey guys 1155026536 M * Nam when compiling dietlibc into util-vserver... how to do specifiy where dietlibc is installed? 1155026560 M * Nam i tried --with-dietlibc=/opt/dietlibc and that didn't help at all 1155026562 M * coocoon Nam: ./configure --help 1155026602 M * Nam i'm not that stupid.. I looked, there is no mention of dietlibc options 1155026665 M * Nam --disable-dietlibc do not use dietlibc resp. enforce its usage (with 1155026665 M * Nam --enable-dietlibc) (default: autodetect dietlibc) 1155026674 M * Nam that's the only option with any mention to dietlibc 1155026708 M * coocoon Nam: which distor u r using 1155026712 M * coocoon *distro 1155026712 M * Nam slamd64 1155026729 M * coocoon Nam: which version of dietlibc 1155026734 M * Nam the latest 1155026745 M * Nam i downloaded and installed it manually 1155026759 M * Nam by default, it goes to /opt/dietlibc 1155026808 Q * _IMMORTAL_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1155027114 M * Nam 0.30 1155027500 M * coocoon Nam: maybe u compile dietlibc manually to this dir /usr/lib64/dietlibc 1155027531 M * Nam is there no way to specify where it's installed? 1155027568 M * Nam most programs allow you to specify the root via a --with-=/path/to/installed/root 1155027663 M * Nam well... that seems to have worked 1155027665 M * Nam so far 1155027707 M * Nam i made a bash script which did (export DIET="/opt/dietlibc/bin/diet") before running config 1155027954 J * lilo2_ hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org 1155027965 Q * lilo2 Remote host closed the connection 1155028153 Q * Aiken_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1155028368 Q * pisco Quit: Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/ 1155028974 Q * coocoon Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1155029339 J * pisco ~pampel@p5084E3E1.dip.t-dialin.net 1155029579 J * coocoon ~coocoon@p54A071C9.dip.t-dialin.net 1155030152 Q * dna Quit: Verlassend 1155030188 Q * balbir Quit: Leaving 1155030791 J * shedi ~siggi@dsl-og-108-50.du.vortex.is 1155030993 J * Viper0482 ~Viper0482@p549750BC.dip.t-dialin.net 1155031103 J * debugger_ Rui@217.129.151.190 1155031541 Q * eyck Read error: Connection reset by peer 1155031563 Q * rgl Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1155031703 J * eyck eyck@ghost.anime.pl 1155032188 Q * michal` Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1155032231 J * balbir ~balbir@59.144.35.205 1155032462 Q * derjohn Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1155032809 J * michal` ~michal@www.rsbac.org 1155032981 J * derjohn ~derjohn@dslb-084-058-197-025.pools.arcor-ip.net 1155034704 Q * eyck Read error: Connection reset by peer 1155034997 J * eyck eyck@ghost.anime.pl 1155035025 M * Roey Bertl_zZ: hey there again, and thanks for answering my questions 1155036326 Q * yarihm Quit: Leaving 1155036388 J * _mcp ~hightower@wolk-project.de 1155036418 J * rgl Rui@217.129.151.190 1155036504 Q * balbir oxygen.oftc.net xenon.oftc.net 1155036504 Q * debugger_ oxygen.oftc.net xenon.oftc.net 1155036504 Q * pisco oxygen.oftc.net xenon.oftc.net 1155036504 Q * Milf oxygen.oftc.net xenon.oftc.net 1155036504 Q * s0undt3ch oxygen.oftc.net xenon.oftc.net 1155036504 Q * mcp oxygen.oftc.net xenon.oftc.net 1155036504 Q * [PUPPETS]Gonzo oxygen.oftc.net xenon.oftc.net 1155036514 N * _mcp mcp 1155036662 J * s0undt3ch zlhqnwpi@bl7-244-104.dsl.telepac.pt 1155037429 J * pisco ~pampel@p5084E3E1.dip.t-dialin.net 1155037476 J * balbir ~balbir@59.144.35.205 1155038304 J * debugger_ Rui@217.129.151.190 1155038692 Q * Viper0482 Remote host closed the connection 1155038764 Q * rgl Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1155039342 M * Savvy what may cause those errors( http://pastebin.ca/122068 ) during the compilation? a trustix 3.0 system with gcc 3.4.4 1155039825 Q * debugger_ charon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1155039825 Q * pisco charon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1155039825 Q * s0undt3ch charon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1155039825 Q * shedi charon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1155039825 Q * renihs charon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1155039825 Q * SkramX charon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1155039825 Q * HomeRoey charon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1155039825 Q * FloodServ charon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1155039825 Q * michal` charon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1155039825 Q * matti charon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1155039825 Q * insomniac charon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1155039825 Q * Zaki_ charon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1155039825 Q * cohan charon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1155039825 Q * meebey charon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1155039825 Q * m4z charon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1155039825 Q * Curus charon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1155039825 Q * Adrinael charon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1155039825 Q * BenBen charon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1155039825 Q * baggins charon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1155039825 Q * matled charon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1155039825 Q * phreak`` charon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1155039825 Q * doener charon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1155039825 Q * Snow-Man charon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1155039825 Q * nox charon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1155039825 Q * tokkee charon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1155039825 Q * nokoya charon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1155039825 Q * cemil charon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1155039837 J * michal` ~michal@www.rsbac.org 1155039837 J * matti matti@linux.gentoo.pl 1155039837 J * insomniac ~insomniac@slackware.it 1155039837 J * Zaki_ ~Zaki@212.107.126.159 1155039837 J * cohan ~cohan@koniczek.de 1155039837 J * FloodServ services@services.oftc.net 1155039837 J * m4z m4z@bastard-operator.from-hell.net 1155039837 J * Curus ~Curus@kbhn-vbrg-sr0-vl209-213-185-8-10.perspektivbredband.net 1155039837 J * nox ~nox@nox.user.oftc.net 1155039837 J * tokkee tokkee@casella.verplant.org 1155039837 J * nokoya young@hi-230-82.tm.net.org.my 1155039837 J * Adrinael adrinael@hoasb-ff09dd00-79.dhcp.inet.fi 1155039837 J * BenBen ~benny@defiant.wavecon.de 1155039837 J * baggins baggins@kenny.mimuw.edu.pl 1155039837 J * cemil ~cemil@defiant.wavecon.de 1155039837 J * phreak`` ~phreak``@140.211.166.183 1155039837 J * doener ~doener@host.magicwars.de 1155039837 J * Snow-Man ~sfrost@kenobi.snowman.net 1155039837 J * meebey meebey@booster.qnetp.net 1155039838 Q * m4z Read error: Connection reset by peer 1155039861 J * matled_ ~matled@85.131.246.184 1155039861 J * debugger_ Rui@217.129.151.190 1155039861 J * pisco ~pampel@p5084E3E1.dip.t-dialin.net 1155039861 J * s0undt3ch zlhqnwpi@bl7-244-104.dsl.telepac.pt 1155039861 J * shedi ~siggi@dsl-og-108-50.du.vortex.is 1155039861 J * renihs ~penguin@83-65-34-34.arsenal.xdsl-line.inode.at 1155039861 J * SkramX ~skram@the.telephreak.org 1155039861 J * HomeRoey ~abc@207-172-89-19.c3-0.bth-ubr7.lnh-bth.md.cable.rcn.com 1155039949 J * tokkee_ tokkee@casella.verplant.org 1155039965 J * cemil_ ~cemil@defiant.wavecon.de 1155039966 J * baggins_ baggins@kenny.mimuw.edu.pl 1155039979 Q * meebey helium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1155039979 Q * Snow-Man helium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1155039979 Q * doener helium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1155039979 Q * phreak`` helium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1155039979 Q * cemil helium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1155039979 Q * baggins helium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1155039979 Q * BenBen helium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1155039979 Q * Adrinael helium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1155039979 Q * nokoya helium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1155039979 Q * Curus helium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1155039979 Q * cohan helium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1155039979 Q * Zaki_ helium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1155039979 Q * matti helium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1155039979 Q * michal` helium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1155039979 Q * nox helium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1155039979 Q * insomniac helium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1155039979 Q * tokkee helium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1155039979 J * meebey_ meebey@booster.qnetp.net 1155039997 J * nox ~nox@noxlux.de 1155040012 J * BenBen ~benny@defiant.wavecon.de 1155040047 J * michal` ~michal@www.rsbac.org 1155040047 J * matti matti@linux.gentoo.pl 1155040047 J * Zaki_ ~Zaki@212.107.126.159 1155040047 J * cohan ~cohan@koniczek.de 1155040047 J * Snow-Man ~sfrost@kenobi.snowman.net 1155040047 J * doener ~doener@host.magicwars.de 1155040047 J * phreak`` ~phreak``@140.211.166.183 1155040047 J * Adrinael adrinael@hoasb-ff09dd00-79.dhcp.inet.fi 1155040047 J * nokoya young@hi-230-82.tm.net.org.my 1155040047 J * Curus ~Curus@kbhn-vbrg-sr0-vl209-213-185-8-10.perspektivbredband.net 1155040066 J * cohan_ ~cohan@koniczek.de 1155040128 J * Curus_ ~Curus@kbhn-vbrg-sr0-vl209-213-185-8-10.perspektivbredband.net 1155040169 N * baggins_ baggins 1155040198 Q * Curus Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1155040198 Q * cohan Read error: Connection reset by peer 1155040233 J * michal`_ ~michal@www.rsbac.org 1155040233 Q * michal` Read error: Connection reset by peer 1155040238 J * m4z m4z@bastard-operator.from-hell.net 1155040273 J * insomniac ~insomniac@slackware.it 1155040477 Q * insomniac helium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1155040477 Q * m4z helium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1155040477 Q * phreak`` helium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1155040477 Q * Zaki_ helium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1155040477 Q * doener helium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1155040477 Q * Adrinael helium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1155040477 Q * matti helium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1155040477 Q * nokoya helium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1155040477 Q * Snow-Man helium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1155040501 J * Snow-Man ~sfrost@kenobi.snowman.net 1155040504 J * doener ~doener@host.magicwars.de 1155040510 J * Adrinael adrinael@hoasb-ff09dd00-79.dhcp.inet.fi 1155040534 J * phreak`` ~phreak``@140.211.166.183 1155040546 J * insomniac ~insomniac@slackware.it 1155040573 J * Zaki_ ~Zaki@212.107.126.159 1155040595 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1155040610 M * Bertl morning folks! ahh, splitting day :) 1155040614 M * FaUl yes 1155040616 M * FaUl definitly 1155040618 M * FaUl morning bertl 1155040628 J * nokoya young@hi-230-82.tm.net.org.my 1155040629 M * Bertl new virus or what? 1155040700 M * FaUl is there any schedule for the release of the next stable-version? 1155040726 M * FaUl btw: is it called 2.2 then? 1155040739 J * Milf ~Miranda@ipsio217.ipsi.fraunhofer.de 1155040852 M * Bertl schedule: soon, and yes, it will be 2.2 1155040899 M * renihs soon? :) 1155040929 M * SNy As in Real Soon Now (TM)? 1155040988 M * FaUl it will proberly be released before duke nukem forever 1155040995 M * Bertl here is how I picture it in my mind ... (doesn't mean it becomes reality :) 1155041024 M * renihs draw it ;) 1155041024 M * Bertl - I find the time to do the final 2.0.2 cleanups (this week?) 1155041051 M * Bertl - 2.0.2 is released "rock solid" 1155041074 M * Bertl - shortly after that 2.1.1 is released as "development" 1155041102 M * Bertl - we do some fixing and cleanups on 2.1.1 (especially missing stuff) 1155041118 M * Bertl - then we release that as 2.2.0 "stable" 1155041144 M * Bertl - development will then start with ipv6 and networking stuff as 2.3.0 1155041157 M * FaUl networking stuff? ngnet? 1155041201 M * Bertl - once networking has been stabilized, it will get into 2.2.x, but not 2.0.x 1155041218 M * Bertl well, yes, what we 'currently' call ngnet 1155041252 M * renihs cool 1155041258 M * renihs how will it be called in future? 1155041258 M * FaUl mh 1155041305 M * FaUl Bertl: i think integrated, working ngnet should go in 2.4.0, not in 2.2.x - but thans only my humble opinion 1155041530 M * Bertl well, networking will come in two flavors I guess 1155041564 M * Bertl one will be what you get when you combine the lo patches with bonbons patches 1155041603 A * FaUl hasn't followed that - what exactly do the lo-patches? and bonbons patches are the ipv6-patches, or have i missed something? 1155041674 M * Bertl yes, basically you will get ipv4 and ipv6 isolation, dynamic address ranges and a per guest isolated loopback 1155041683 M * renihs ah very goo 1155041684 M * renihs d 1155041700 M * renihs an isolated loopback for each guest i was missing badly already 1155041702 M * Bertl probably we can throw in tun/tap as well 1155041725 M * Bertl note: all this with isolation so no additional overhead 1155041751 M * FaUl Bertl: that sounds like perfekt ;-) 1155041823 J * Viper0482 ~Viper0482@p549750BC.dip.t-dialin.net 1155041825 M * renihs sounds great indeed, but you forgot to include the timeframe :) 1155041881 M * Bertl well, the lo patches are there, the ipv6 patches are available ... :) 1155041948 M * renihs hehe you should consider becoming diplomat :) 1155042594 Q * pisco Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1155042808 M * Savvy what may cause a newly compiled kernel to be refused by grub as unsupported executable format? 1155042866 M * renihs compile it again would be my suggestion 1155042868 M * renihs bad blocks? :) 1155042907 M * Bertl Savvy: did you install the correct kernel? 1155042918 M * Bertl i.e. what does file say about your kernel image? 1155042949 M * mnemoc there is any howto about vserver-utils ? 1155042954 M * mnemoc (hi! ,-) 1155043021 M * Savvy huh, i again used wrong file :)) 1155043038 M * renihs ;) 1155043125 M * FaUl mnemoc: there is the great flowerpage 1155043156 M * mnemoc FaUl vserver-utils use xml ,-) 1155043178 M * mnemoc FaUl: utils-vserver config info is at the weed page 1155043254 M * Bertl mnemoc: I hate to correct you here, but the flower page is generated from the xml description in util-vserver too :) 1155043279 M * mnemoc O_O 1155043320 M * mnemoc so there are some ugly xml bits also on util-vserver :p 1155043419 M * mnemoc very late last night i installed a remote vserver host with the new tools, and i want to set it up tonight ,-) 1155043501 M * mnemoc sadly not purely dietlibc-based yet :( 1155043794 M * Hollow Bertl, mnemoc: vserver-utils will probably get a new name, to stop the confusion 1155043819 M * Hollow along with the move to svn.l-v.org 1155043959 M * Hollow Bertl: btw, important for you, maybe sth needs to be corrected: http://wiki.linux-vserver.org/Report_a_Bug 1155044377 Q * debugger_ Read error: Connection reset by peer 1155044653 M * Bertl Hollow: looks really good, I'd consider the cpu info and modules info execissive (without specific request) 1155044673 M * Bertl *excessive 1155044695 M * Hollow yeah, i copied it from the kernel bug report howto, so i was not exactly sure.. 1155044729 M * Bertl IIRC, I even had an ascii bug report formular 1155044739 M * Hollow i thought cpuinfo might be handy for arch specific problems, anyway.. rather get more input that too few ;) 1155044748 M * Hollow *than 1155044769 M * Hollow if you find it i can adapt it to the page 1155044774 M * Hollow (the ascii form) 1155044808 M * Bertl http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/BugTemplate-01.txt 1155044819 M * Bertl http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/BugExample-01.txt 1155044877 M * Bertl it could definitely benefit from testme.sh data :) 1155044878 M * mnemoc Hollow: congratulations, finally i see a mediawiki looking good :) 1155044880 M * Hollow ok, will take a look 1155044885 M * Hollow mnemoc: hehehe 1155044888 M * Hollow but you're right :P 1155044908 M * Bertl yeah, it's quite nice ... 1155044914 Q * Milf Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1155045041 M * mnemoc just CSS or you had to hack it? 1155045048 M * Hollow just adapted monobook.css 1155045064 M * Hollow (i just chaned the location of the search box in monobook.php) 1155045074 M * Hollow to appear on top of all other 1155045078 M * Hollow but else, only css 1155045280 J * [PUPPETS]Gonzo gonzo@langweiligneutral.deswahnsinns.de 1155045305 M * Bertl Hollow: what would be the command to add a new ip to an existing guest with your tools? 1155045330 M * Bertl (at runtime) 1155045382 M * Hollow currently the daemon does not support it, but from the command line: nx -add-addr / 1155045396 M * Bertl okay, tx 1155045399 M * Savvy hey, i got an error while testing with testme.sh here is the output: http://pastebin.ca/122154 1155045409 M * Savvy is it important? 1155045468 M * Hollow Bertl: i'm not sure how to do it with the daemon, i thought about implementing a reload method, so all configs that can be changed at runtime will be reloaded.. except mounts that includes probably all config options 1155045475 M * Bertl Savvy: well, that means something is not working correctly 1155045527 M * Bertl Savvy: in your case the uname virtualization 1155045621 M * Bertl Hollow: IMHO it would be better to have an add/remove/change concept, which works either on the config or the current running guest or both 1155045661 M * Bertl i.e. you do add flag to guest (config/running/both) 1155045678 M * Bertl and similar for ips 1155045718 M * Hollow Bertl: we have exactly that, but currently for the config only, i.e. you need to restart, or use command line to add the during runtime 1155045842 Q * FireEgl Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1155045957 M * doener hm 031 failed... we saw that before... 1155046091 M * Bertl now if you remember where and what caused it :) 1155046126 M * doener currently I'm trying to find testme.sh to check what 031 actually is 1155046140 M * Bertl [031]# chcontext --hostname zaphod.29 uname -a | grep -q zaphod.29 1155046206 Q * renihs Remote host closed the connection 1155046464 M * doener Bertl: was 0.30.205, broken chcontext 1155046530 M * shedi how do I set the rlimits, I'm stuck on the beautiful flower page 1155046612 M * shedi I understand that I have to make a directory called rlimit within the config of the vserver 1155046707 M * shedi :) 1155046750 M * doener and then put the limits in the correctly named file, IIRC sth. like echo "1024" > rss 1155046833 M * shedi I see :) 1155046842 M * shedi thank you 1155046859 M * shedi I reached a dead end street in my brain 1155046870 M * Roey that is an awesome quote 1155046875 M * Roey shedi: thank you for sharing it 1155046939 M * doener shedi: one? I got a jungle of them! 1155046978 M * shedi :) 1155046994 M * doener Savvy: could you run testme with -v? 1155047005 M * Bertl -vv maybe? 1155047041 M * doener ah, yeah, it's gt... 1155047156 J * FireEgl ~FireEgl@Atlantica.US 1155047643 M * Bertl wb FireEgl! 1155047996 Q * phreak`` Quit: leaving 1155048027 J * phreak`` ~phreak``@140.211.166.183 1155048489 M * kir micah, I am answering your comment at LWN on the latest OpenVZ announcement... 1155048530 M * micah kir: I didn't make any comments on LWN yet... 1155048541 Q * FireEgl Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1155048544 M * micah I mean, ever 1155048575 A * micah looks 1155048611 M * micah oh hah, thats the person who had my first choice of logins 1155048622 M * micah in otherwords, different micah 1155048855 M * kir micah, whoops 1155048873 M * kir micah, I thought it was you. sorry then :)) 1155048900 M * kir micah, as a side note, kir is also always taken on most sites :( 1155048945 M * micah micah used to be always available, but I find now that I must be quick to register on new sites if I am to get it 1155048946 M * Bertl so kir is dowdle or what? *lol* 1155048973 M * Bertl ah, no, just saw k001 :) 1155048988 M * kir Bertl, my second name is k001...after my livejournal account. 1155048988 M * doener I doubt that kir would ask this: "Hey man... what's "OpenVX"? A free implimentation of VX nerve gas?" 1155048992 M * doener ;) 1155048993 J * ntrs ~ntrs@68-188-51-87.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com 1155049019 M * kir doener, that "VX" was the best comment...ten points for humor :) 1155049036 M * doener heh :) 1155049040 M * Bertl welcome ntrs! 1155049307 J * FireEgl ~FireEgl@2001:5c0:84dc:: 1155049314 M * Bertl what I liked most on the LWN announcement, is that Sharon did do some advertizement for yahoo too :) 1155049409 M * Bertl and I'm happy to see that the tools are GPL now 1155049423 J * Ben81 ~Ben81@tipi0e.lri.fr 1155049447 M * Ben81 hi all 1155049454 M * Bertl hey Ben81! 1155049492 M * Ben81 i have a little problem with the /tmp on a virtual machine 1155049502 M * Bertl too small? 1155049519 M * Bertl too 'unreachable'? 1155049529 M * Ben81 node_gdx0165_1:/etc# umount /tmp 1155049529 M * Ben81 umount: none: not found 1155049529 M * Ben81 umount: /tmp: must be superuser to umount 1155049529 M * Ben81 umount: none: not found 1155049529 M * Ben81 umount: /tmp: must be superuser to umount 1155049537 M * Ben81 and i'm root 1155049549 M * Bertl well, you are missing the required capabilities to do so 1155049564 M * Ben81 ha ok i have to add a flag ? 1155049578 M * Ben81 because i dont want any tmpfs 1155049590 M * Bertl ah, so now we are getting there 1155049601 M * Ben81 :-) 1155049608 M * Bertl just look at your fstab in the config /etc/vserver// 1155049617 M * Bertl and remove the tmp there 1155049740 M * Ben81 ok 1155049744 M * Ben81 i'll do that 1155049773 M * Ben81 thanks 1155049819 M * Ben81 Bertl, if you want i write for my thesis some performances comparison between vserver, xen, uml and vmware, maybe you could be interested 1155049821 M * Bertl you're welcome! 1155049846 M * Bertl Ben81: sure, there are already some out there (we should have links somewhere) 1155049894 M * Bertl Ben81: but tests are always welcome, and do not hesitate to report any issues and/or tests which show less than 100% performance with devel kernels 1155049935 M * Bertl Ben81: i.e. if there is any measurable performance impact, it's very likely a bug :) 1155049939 M * Ben81 Bertl, ok so you can add a link to http://www.lri.fr/~quetier/papiers/EXPGRID.pdf if you want :-) 1155049971 M * Bertl okay, will do so ... 1155050074 M * Ben81 Bertl, thanks, i'll continu my experiments on a 5000 virtual machine platform with no tmpfs :-D. Good bye 1155050076 M * Bertl Ben81: may I mention that you are somewhat comparing apples to oranges in your paper ... 1155050096 M * Ben81 Bertl, Why ? 1155050108 J * dna ~naucki@p54BCF7ED.dip.t-dialin.net 1155050122 M * Bertl 2.4.26 kernel UML guest on 2.6.7 skas with 2.6.9 xen and 2.4.27 vserver? 1155050155 M * Ben81 Bertl, yes it's because the first tests was launched before the 2.6 was stable :) 1155050162 M * Bertl have you measured 2.4.26 vs 2.6.9 at any point? 1155050175 M * Bertl (not speaking of 2.6.16 or 17 :) 1155050210 M * Ben81 Bertl, no, it was old measure but the have permitted us to choose vserver for our platform 1155050214 M * Ben81 +y 1155050224 M * Bertl yeah, the results are impressive, nevertheless 1155050240 M * Bertl so it is more a formal critique, than a substantial :) 1155050245 M * Ben81 Bertl, the main problem was the hard disk drivers 1155050266 M * Ben81 Too many performances differances between kernel 1155050332 M * Ben81 I have to finish some experiments so I leave, Thanks for all your works Bertl . See you 1155050341 M * Bertl cya, and tx! 1155050347 Q * Ben81 Quit: Leaving 1155050460 M * Bertl Hollow: could you add that link to the new wiki, I'll add it to the old for now ... 1155050597 M * Hollow yup 1155050606 Q * ||Cobra|| Remote host closed the connection 1155051078 Q * Piet Quit: :tiuQ 1155051439 M * Bertl Hollow: some wiki comments (trying to add a page :) 1155051471 J * stefani ~stefani@tsipoor.banerian.org 1155051482 M * Bertl - the edit page shows the grey bar at the bottom, but it is too small to hold the two icons (probably because of the missing text line) 1155051487 M * Bertl welcome stefani! 1155051513 M * Bertl (cont.) - I'm missing some wiki syntax url/help 1155051513 M * Hollow yep, happens on empty pages too 1155051516 M * stefani hola 1155051541 M * Bertl Hollow: ah, found it, was hidden in the text :) 1155051551 Q * michal`_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1155051573 N * tokkee_ tokkee 1155051579 M * Bertl Hollow: which means we should add underline or other markers for urls (to make them easier to find) 1155051585 M * Hollow Bertl: well, i just linked to metawiki 1155051640 M * Hollow yeah, links in the content should be underlined probably.. 1155051650 M * Hollow but imo the sidebar and top should be left as-is 1155051661 M * Bertl yes, for sidebar it's fine 1155051694 M * Bertl although it would not hurt to have 'on over' or something like that there 1155051729 M * Bertl (i.e. have the highlight display something else, like underline too) 1155051744 M * Hollow you a:hover? 1155051753 M * Bertl yep 1155051757 M * Hollow +mean 1155051757 M * Hollow :) 1155051794 M * Hollow well, currently hover is underline, be we can make it just vice-versa in the content area 1155051801 M * Hollow link: underline, hover: none 1155051832 M * Bertl nah, underline is fine for the hover, I'd say something like: 1155051847 M * Bertl - 'similar' color for already visited + underline 1155051870 M * Bertl - 'slightly different color' (from text) for unvisited + underline 1155051895 M * Bertl - 'bright/red/whatever' color + underline for hover 1155051904 M * Bertl (for normal text) 1155051919 M * Bertl and no underline for menu/sidebar 1155051929 M * Bertl but underline and/or color for hover 1155051946 P * Roey Leaving 1155051948 M * Hollow note that you still have another color for non-existent, but linked pages 1155051963 M * Bertl yeah, we might grey them out maybe? 1155051982 M * Bertl (but still have an underline there :) 1155051989 M * Hollow probably a bad idea, they should be int the most obvious (and annoying) color ;) 1155052001 M * Hollow like #FF0000 1155052002 M * Hollow ;) 1155052026 M * Hollow currently it's some dark red 1155052029 M * Bertl hehe, while that is probably a good intent, it will result in many many folks complaining that the wiki is full of empty pages 1155052037 M * Hollow heh 1155052045 M * FaUl ;-) 1155052050 M * Hollow redirect them to http://wiki.linux-vserver.org/Wiki_Team ;) 1155052070 M * Bertl so better have it marked differently and add a big comment somewhere that the 'purple' or 'gray' links should be filled 1155052083 M * Bertl (on the first page or so) 1155052163 J * michal` ~michal@www.rsbac.org 1155052421 M * Bertl welcome michal`! 1155052566 J * pisco ~pampel@p5084E3E1.dip.t-dialin.net 1155052577 M * Bertl wb pisco! 1155052698 M * pisco Hi Bertl: today i am fighting to run virtualisation on an IBM POWER machine (over IVM) 1155052712 M * pisco an im leran to love vserver 1155052724 M * Bertl hehe 1155052768 M * pisco but IVM has a very nice webinterface 1155052817 M * doener pisco: http://openvcp.org/ 1155052923 M * pisco this is also nice, good boy! 1155053029 M * cryptronic @ pisco but i recommend you to use the svn version 1155053032 M * cryptronic from openvcp 1155053207 M * doener cryptronic: hm, is there a reason why the timeline is disabled in trac at openvcp.org? (maybe just for non-registered users) 1155053243 M * cryptronic hmm i really dosen't know, but i'll talk with the project leader 1155053286 M * Hollow Bertl: take a look at the link colors now 1155053380 M * Bertl better but still not perfect IMHO, but don't worry, I'll do some tests myself and make a proposal, okay? 1155053481 J * rgl Rui@217.129.151.190 1155053488 A * rgl waves 1155053515 M * Bertl wb rgl! 1155053553 M * rgl hi Herbert :D 1155053583 M * Hollow Bertl: sure 1155053860 M * mnemoc Hollow: does http://oldwiki.linux-vserver.org/ suppose to exist? 1155053917 M * Hollow until bertl sent me old htdocs + added dns entries, no :) 1155053931 M * mnemoc :) 1155053953 M * rgl is there any cooperation between the vserver and openvz projects/community? 1155053955 M * Hollow s/oldwiki.// will do it 1155053965 M * Hollow for now 1155054043 M * Bertl Hollow: will try to do so soon ... have to leave now 1155054049 M * Bertl cya later folks! 1155054052 M * Hollow cu 1155054054 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1155054077 M * rgl bye bye 1155054162 Q * Greek0 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1155054641 M * mnemoc Hollow: beside the documentation inside vserver-utils itself, there anything else available? 1155054768 J * bonbons ~bonbons@83.222.36.236 1155054786 M * FaUl the incredible bonbons 1155054849 Q * pisco Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1155054870 M * bonbons Hey FaUl! 1155054881 M * Hollow mnemoc: not really.. 1155054897 M * Hollow the spec is probably the best way to go :) 1155054902 M * mnemoc :) 1155054909 M * Hollow or -h for the command line tools 1155054934 M * mnemoc any hint about 'how to start'? :p 1155054965 M * Hollow first you need to setup vcds database (see doc/README.vcd) 1155054991 M * mnemoc ok :) 1155054995 M * Hollow then see the testdummy template in test/ how to create a template config 1155055042 M * Hollow start the daemon, then: vcc create