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1153804407 M * coocoon morning
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1153809117 J * shedi ~siggi@inferno.lhi.is
1153810011 J * Viper0482 ~Viper0482@p54975611.dip.t-dialin.net
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1153812140 J * renihs ~penguin@83-65-34-34.arsenal.xdsl-line.inode.at
1153815609 J * yarihm ~yarihm@whitehead2.nine.ch
1153815837 J * makamhareesh ~makamhare@202.41.92.35
1153815868 P * makamhareesh 
1153816251 Q * yarihm helium.oftc.net nobelium.oftc.net
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1153817439 J * yarihm ~yarihm@whitehead2.nine.ch
1153817654 J * lilalinux ~plasma@h1-gw.of.net-lab.net
1153817694 M * sid3windr anyone running openvcp?:)
1153820066 Q * shedi Quit: Leaving
1153820407 M * sid3windr what happened to this channel, noone is talking anymore :p
1153820473 M * phedny maybe it's because of the nice weather and the 'early' time
1153820496 M * sid3windr hi ;)
1153820737 A * weeble waves
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1153821013 M * renihs narf
1153821022 M * renihs this channel has always been idle :)
1153821731 M * sid3windr nah, not when Bertl's around ;)
1153821753 M * sid3windr anyway, I'm trying to get openvcp to work, #openvcp is still asleep and perhaps there was some user of it here ;)
1153821762 M * Wonka what's openvpc?
1153821770 M * sid3windr openvcp.org
1153821778 M * sid3windr vserver control panel thingy
1153821864 M * Wonka nice
1153821974 M * Wonka *want*
1153822928 M * renihs didnt use it yet
1153822941 M * renihs yea,if bertl is awake, action happens :)
1153822949 M * renihs brb
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1153823123 J * chand ~chand@gw.net81-65-27.noos.fr
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1153824260 J * nebuchadnezzar ~nebu@zion.asgardr.info
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1153824959 M * poiin2000 juhu
1153824977 M * FaUl *gaehn*
1153825351 M * poiin2000 Bertl_zZ, derjohn and Adrinael: thank you very much indeed for the VServer talk on the pforzheimer linux info day spoke by derjohn
1153825421 M * Adrinael Don't thank me
1153825429 M * derjohn poiin2000, btw: do you need the slides for putting them online?
1153825441 M * derjohn poiin2000, Adrinael != _are_ :)
1153825469 M * poiin2000 derjohn: yes, please send it to me;)
1153825545 M * derjohn poiin2000, ok!
1153825802 Q * anonc Quit: adios
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1153826250 J * Viper0482 ~Viper0482@p54975611.dip.t-dialin.net
1153827261 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1153827264 M * Bertl YAY!
1153827284 M * Bertl adsl \o/ adsl *jump*
1153827298 M * phedny Bertl: you had phone line internet before?
1153827312 M * Bertl sometimes even worse ...
1153827322 M * phedny no internet at all?
1153827323 M * Bertl rates between 22k and 64k
1153827351 M * Bertl and the last two weeks connection outages for several hours
1153827362 A * phedny warns Bertl for his Addictive Digital Subscriber Line :p
1153827366 M * sid3windr poor Bertl :)
1153827431 M * Bertl so now, at least one location is broadband internet :)
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1153827516 J * h01ger ~holger@socket.layer-acht.org
1153827757 Q * weeble Read error: Connection reset by peer
1153828292 J * Loki|muh_ loki@satanix.de
1153828292 Q * Loki|muh Read error: Connection reset by peer
1153828306 N * Loki|muh_ Loki|muh
1153829081 M * Hollow Bertl: congrats :)
1153829112 M * Bertl Hollow: tx, will 'improve' my work drastically :)
1153829128 M * phedny hehe
1153829134 M * Hollow heh, i was lazy too the last week
1153829151 M * Hollow at least wrt utils
1153829154 M * phedny Bertl: don't overhead yourself during this weather because of higher efficiency ;)
1153829166 J * coocoon ~coocoon@p54A07281.dip.t-dialin.net
1153829186 A * Bertl .o( looking for a compatible cooler :)
1153829186 Q * coocoon Read error: Connection reset by peer
1153829252 J * coocoon ~coocoon@p54A07281.dip.t-dialin.net
1153829366 M * FaUl huhu bertl
1153829373 M * Bertl hey FaUl!
1153829440 M * renihs huhu Bertl :))
1153829458 M * FaUl Bertl: i'm not quite sure if i sayed that to you before: sun is ready and needs a shuttle to vienna - do you know anyone who may take it with him in your direction?
1153829496 M * renihs vienna? visit me :)
1153829550 M * FaUl renihs: i thingk bertl would visit you if you'd just come to dortmund and fetch the sun ;-)
1153829591 M * Bertl hehe
1153829625 M * Bertl FaUl: well, the machine is located where exactly atm?
1153829637 M * Bertl FaUl: dortmund?
1153829679 M * FaUl Bertl: dortmund, braunschweiger strasse 22, hinterhof raum of the chaostreff dortmund
1153829718 M * FaUl in the middle of the desk to be more accurate ;-)
1153829737 M * Bertl did you verify that? :)
1153829744 M * renihs what sun?
1153829748 M * FaUl i put it there
1153829751 M * renihs i have a sunfire e4900 here 
1153829752 M * renihs :)
1153829768 M * Bertl FaUl: I meant that it truly is the middle of the desk :)
1153829799 M * FaUl Bertl: uhm - not quite sure
1153829823 M * FaUl but i can go and do some exact messures - if you want to positionize your transporter-ray ;-)
1153830937 Q * gerrit Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1153830970 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: re: code review, i haven't gotten too far, but the arch/v850/kernel/ptrace.c hunk is definitely broken.
1153831109 J * meandtheshell ~markus@85-124-233-11.work.xdsl-line.inode.at
1153831578 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: okay ...
1153832177 M * doener Bertl: btw, did you hear about the deadlock we fixed?
1153832268 M * doener http://www.13thfloor.at/~doener/vserver/patches/juggo.diff
1153832451 M * Bertl cool, missed that one ...
1153832466 M * Bertl doener: did you check for similar issues?
1153832492 M * doener no, I'm busy learning for the exam
1153832496 M * matti Hello Bertl.
1153832544 M * Bertl doener: ah, k, np, will check for that too
1153832612 M * doener we hit that one, because juggo reported a "crash", IIRC it was daniel_hozac who identified the deadlock with the stacktrace
1153832646 M * doener happens on UP systems with SMP kernels (well, you probably know that...)
1153832676 M * daniel_hozac and only on kernels/archs without SMP alternatives.
1153832680 J * cdrx ~legoater@fw54.torolab.ibm.com
1153832684 M * Bertl yeah, of course :)
1153832685 M * doener of course
1153832693 M * Bertl welcome cdrx!
1153832700 M * matti Uh.
1153832713 M * Bertl ah, hey matti! almost missed you :)
1153832717 M * matti Making vs + grsec patch is not so simple as I was thinking. Huh.
1153832736 M * matti Bertl: :)
1153832737 M * Bertl matti: what part of grsec do you need/want?
1153832747 J * gerrit ~gerrit@fw54.torolab.ibm.com
1153832762 M * Bertl wb gerrit!
1153833117 M * sid3windr I thought harry was doing that
1153833118 M * sid3windr :)
1153833264 M * Bertl yes, IIRC he did for some time, maybe he still does?
1153833277 Q * meandtheshell Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1153833445 A * harry ?
1153833460 M * harry i'm gonna do it again, yes
1153833483 M * Wonka play it again, sam
1153833745 M * matti Oh my.
1153833766 M * matti So many memory leaks fixes in and some race condition in .7 huh.
1153833924 J * meandtheshell ~markus@85-124-233-11.work.xdsl-line.inode.at
1153834151 M * sid3windr SO
1153834168 M * sid3windr when am I going to meet someone using openvcp =)
1153834194 M * sid3windr I like the idea/concept, but I can't get it to work. Just need to find someone who does/did to check something for me
1153834237 M * daniel_hozac what? (i haven't used it yet, just looked at the code a bit, it's pretty awful)
1153834276 M * sid3windr is it? :/
1153834288 M * sid3windr I get an error about a broken pipe in the webinterface
1153834299 M * sid3windr and indeed when I telnet to the daemon and give it my password, it says OK
1153834302 M * sid3windr and then closes the connection
1153834305 M * sid3windr which doesn't seem right to me
1153834317 M * sid3windr I checked out the svn, but that doesn't compile
1153834329 M * sid3windr I wonder how hard it can be to write something that works, myself
1153834409 M * daniel_hozac the weirdest thing i can remember is that it has text-book for loops, but it uses while...
1153834430 J * zagor ~andrea@service.cab.unipd.it
1153834431 M * daniel_hozac and the empty lines everywhere kinda got to me.
1153834449 P * daniel_hozac 
1153834449 J * daniel_hozac ~daniel@c-2d1472d5.010-230-73746f22.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se
1153834502 M * sid3windr yea
1153834506 M * sid3windr they're getting to me already =)
1153834514 M * matti ;p
1153834810 M * Bertl welcome zagor!
1153834838 M * zagor Bertl: hi:) Actually I am Cattivik (too:)
1153834860 M * zagor Bertl: thanks:)
1153835423 Q * FireEgl Quit: Bye...
1153835939 M * Bertl zagor: ah, k, np :)
1153835948 M * Bertl okay, I'm off now .. back later this evening ...
1153835952 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
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1153845945 J * Piet hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org
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1153849524 M * tgk lol when i type init 0 inside the vserver that times out when i use the stop command, it kill the vserver, then sends a logout, causing me to get d/c from the box running verver
1153849536 M * tgk nice one
1153849567 J * pisco ~pampel@p5087AB4A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
1153849582 M * tgk the server got killed properly tho, no timeouts when i enter "init 0" inside the vserver, but it times out when i run vserver <name> stop...
1153849595 M * tgk how to trouble shoot this?
1153849619 Q * lilalinux Remote host closed the connection
1153849647 M * tgk anyone any pointers?
1153849805 J * coocoon ~coocoon@p54A07281.dip.t-dialin.net
1153849881 M * doener you could try to watch the processes from xid 1 instead of the context that is being killed to at least see which process is stuck
1153849882 J * complexmind ~mark@162.84.2.81.in-addr.arpa
1153849926 J * amorgan ~amorgan@adsl-66-120-192-11.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net
1153850012 M * tgk xid 1 ?
1153850013 M * tgk :/
1153850199 M * daniel_hozac the watch context.
1153850205 M * daniel_hozac the one that sees all :)
1153850290 M * tgk i have no clue what you meant with xid1 :(
1153850317 Q * pagano Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1153850372 M * mnemoc xid=context id
1153850443 M * tgk :(
1153850475 M * tgk i tought vserver stop just execs init 0 inside the vserver
1153850487 M * tgk but i guess it doesnt, even tho init mode is set to plain
1153850531 M * daniel_hozac then it sends SIGINT to init.
1153850552 M * daniel_hozac which should execute the same thing as ctrl+alt+del.
1153850561 M * tgk it should have some log file it writes to for noobs like me
1153850581 M * tgk i guess i'll jsut shutdown vservers from inside the vserver it will be fine
1153850589 M * daniel_hozac plain init will let the guest handle everything.
1153850607 M * tgk both debian and arch timeout
1153850616 M * tgk it seems to have happened overnight too
1153850623 M * tgk might be some silly perm issue somewhere
1153850624 M * tgk i have no clue
1153850663 M * daniel_hozac do you have a ctrlaltdel line in /etc/inittab in both guests?
1153850726 M * tgk yes, arch does ca::ctrlaltdel:/sbin/shutdown -t3 -r now, and debian ca:12345:ctrlaltdel:/sbin/shutdown -t1 -a -r now
1153850732 J * pagano ~pagano@131.154.5.20
1153850827 M * daniel_hozac and if you execute that manually inside the guest, does it work?
1153850903 M * tgk yes that works fine, and it sends an extra logout too, logging me out of the box thats running the vservers
1153850905 M * tgk is that normal ?
1153850994 M * daniel_hozac so a shutdown -t3 -r now inside a guest logs you out of the host?
1153851012 M * tgk it sends a "logout"
1153851017 M * tgk after exiting the vserver
1153851026 M * daniel_hozac "it" being?
1153851036 M * tgk no idea
1153851044 M * tgk # End of file
1153851044 M * tgk [root@archtest /]# /sbin/shutdown -t3 -r now
1153851044 M * tgk [root@archtest /]#
1153851044 M * tgk [1]+  Stopped                 vserver archlinux enter
1153851044 M * tgk [root@blerk ~]# logout
1153851045 M * tgk logout
1153851045 M * tgk Connection to 10.0.0.250 closed.
1153851052 M * tgk archtest is inside the vserver
1153851058 M * tgk i didnt type logout
1153851059 M * amorgan does anyone know of a more complete set of yum repos for guests and servers?
1153851076 M * daniel_hozac amorgan: hmm?
1153851102 M * amorgan well the patched bind files for fc4 and such for example..
1153851128 M * amorgan dhozac has alot, but it slipps oddly in older fc builds and newer builds..
1153851141 M * daniel_hozac huh?
1153851145 M * amorgan newer builds seem to lack the guest rpms, and older builds still lack working core rpms..
1153851151 M * amorgan linux vserver right?
1153851169 M * amorgan Oh DOH Daniel, , 
1153851176 M * daniel_hozac well, i've been kind of slacking off with guest RPMs.
1153851198 M * amorgan If I had more time I would help get the builds going,
1153851207 M * amorgan (ex turbolinux guy)
1153851232 M * amorgan despite my request, THANKS alot for your contributions Daniel
1153851245 M * daniel_hozac what is it that you find missing?
1153851264 M * amorgan well when I did an fc3 install I had to basically back build the vserver kernel stuff
1153851276 M * daniel_hozac FC3 is EOL.
1153851300 M * daniel_hozac well, it's still maintained by legacy.
1153851302 M * amorgan and when I tried to do some fc4 guest instances, (I know fc3 is eol :( ) Its a time vs hardware thing, fc4 doesn't like the box
1153851335 M * amorgan Im about to do fc5 on it but just haven't had the time yet to test the update process
1153851379 M * amorgan basically the fc4 stuff has issues with internalizing rpms and bind not being patched, 
1153851407 Q * dlezcano Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1153851420 M * daniel_hozac so on an FC4 host, you can't internalize package management?
1153851456 M * amorgan no on fc3 host, fc4 guests cant internalize
1153851469 M * daniel_hozac hmm, why not?
1153851472 M * amorgan at least not without bludgeoning,, 
1153851480 M * amorgan gives scadds of db errors
1153851488 M * amorgan re db3 vs 4
1153851495 M * daniel_hozac that ought to be fixed by rm -f /var/lib/rpm/__db*; rpm --rebuilddb
1153851530 M * daniel_hozac (inside the guest post-internalization)
1153851532 M * amorgan I think I did that at one point, the last guest was basically a copy of the one I got working..
1153851642 M * amorgan brb
1153851662 M * daniel_hozac tgk: i can't reproduce that, what's your host system?
1153851715 M * tgk archlinux
1153851735 M * tgk i used the pkgbuilds from the site
1153851837 M * daniel_hozac what site? archlinux's? URL?
1153851899 M * tgk http://linux-vserver.org/ArchVserver
1153851916 M * tgk everythign works fine except form vserver stop command
1153852032 J * dlezcano ~dlezcano@AToulouse-252-1-77-108.w81-49.abo.wanadoo.fr
1153852254 M * tgk i wish i understood howto log what happens inside the vserver when i run the stop command, cuz the ps list its giving lists all processes that were running
1153852340 M * daniel_hozac you'd have to tell your init to increase logging.
1153852445 M * tgk yea its not logging anything when issue the stop command
1153852449 M * tgk no init change or anything
1153852461 M * tgk it does log a shutdown when i do it manualy
1153852478 M * tgk Jul 25 19:44:34 archtest init: Switching to runlevel: 0
1153852487 M * tgk hrm
1153852500 M * tgk it almost seems as if vserver stop isnt sending anything to the vserver
1153852575 M * tgk i just put another frsh debian and that one stops fine
1153852579 A * tgk scratches his head
1153852585 M * tgk lol
1153852716 M * tgk godo to know its not the vserver install thats wrong
1153852727 M * tgk must be something in archlinux init scripts
1153852732 M * tgk i'll hunt that down, thanks a lot
1153853042 M * daniel_hozac tgk: what you send SIGINT to init manually?
1153853073 Q * amorgan Quit: Leaving
1153853093 M * daniel_hozac +happens if
1153853134 M * tgk nothing
1153853139 M * tgk that prolly explains the problem :)
1153855979 J * mkhl ~mkhl@200-153-181-233.dsl.telesp.net.br
1153856324 Q * bragon Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1153856821 J * bragon ~weechat@sd866.sivit.org
1153856969 M * tgk can i change the signal vserver sends to in init when you stop it in a particular vserver?
1153857181 Q * cdrx Quit: Leaving
1153858049 M * daniel_hozac no, it's in /usr/lib*/util-vserver/vserver.stop
1153858142 M * tgk nobody in archlinux can tell me why arch is ignoring a sigint on init
1153858147 M * tgk its not normal isnt it
1153858247 M * daniel_hozac it ought to invoke the ctrlaltdel action.
1153858263 M * daniel_hozac (as that's what the kernel sends when it's pressed)
1153858384 M * tgk i see
1153858651 M * daniel_hozac does archlinux use sysvinit?
1153858675 J * lilo2 ~0710AAD4@difool.cyberprofilers.org
1153858807 M * tgk no
1153858812 M * tgk its based of slackware
1153858824 M * tgk using a much more minimal rc than slack, but similar
1153858829 Q * Viper0482 Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1153858848 Q * lilo2 Quit: 
1153858897 M * daniel_hozac so what init is it using?
1153858919 Q * kaner Server closed connection
1153858921 J * kaner kaner@strace.org
1153858975 M * tgk their own thing wich comes close to normal plain rc.d stuff, liek slackware has
1153858988 M * micah is patch-2.6.17.4-vs2.0.2-rc26.diff the one to use for 2.6.17.7?
1153859016 J * lilo2 ~0710AAD4@aala.my.littlecorner.org
1153859060 M * daniel_hozac tgk: i didn't mean the rc scripts, i meant the actual /sbin/init.
1153859077 M * daniel_hozac micah: probably, it should apply.
1153859164 M * tgk sysvinit 2.86-2
1153859263 M * daniel_hozac so it should know how to handle it.
1153859298 N * lilo2 lilo2_
1153859308 N * lilo2_ lilo2
1153859332 M * daniel_hozac tgk: do you have vserver debugging enabled?
1153859337 M * daniel_hozac (in the kernel)
1153859404 M * daniel_hozac if so, echo 16 > /proc/sys/vserver/debug_misc might be able to help.
1153859420 M * micah daniel_hozac: yeah it does fine
1153859633 Q * matti Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1153859639 M * tgk i think i found what it was, you were right with the /etc/initab's ctrlaltdel entry
1153859644 M * tgk i copied the command debian used
1153859646 M * tgk and now it works fine
1153859649 M * tgk :D
1153859656 M * tgk [root@blerk ~]# vserver archlinux stop
1153859656 M * tgk [root@blerk ~]#
1153859686 M * daniel_hozac cool.
1153859690 M * tgk yes!
1153859692 M * tgk thanks a lot
1153859725 M * tgk vserver is really nice, we're using it on most boxes, makes it so much easier to switch task
1153859738 M * tgk (and it beats the other 2 i wont name here in speed any da)y
1153859754 M * daniel_hozac indeed
1153859763 M * daniel_hozac which other two?
1153859767 M * tgk xen/uml
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1153860130 J * m4z m4z@bastard-operator.from-hell.net
1153860480 Q * mkhl Quit: 
1153860699 M * meandtheshell daniel_hozac: hi daniel - do you remember our bandwidth discussion last time http://www.bredbandsbolaget.se/portal/PRIVAT_BREDBAND_LAN_BREDBAND%2B100 - I can barely understand anything because its in Swedish - do you have a downloadlimit or a flatrat? Don't tell my you've got a flatrate additionally to that big-fat bandwidth - if so - I'll do mv /Austria/meandtheshell /Sweden/    :-)
1153860704 J * dna ~naucki@dialer-183-248.kielnet.net
1153862527 J * chand ~chand@gw.net81-65-27.noos.fr
1153862839 J * matti matti@linux.gentoo.pl
1153863152 M * daniel_hozac meandtheshell: flatrate, and i haven't encountered any limits yet :) (AFAIK there are none)
1153863245 M * meandtheshell daniel_hozac: awesome!
1153863294 J * mire ~mire@239-166-222-85.COOL.ADSL.VLine.Verat.NET
1153863879 J * TheDOC ~TheDOC@dslb-084-063-005-169.pools.arcor-ip.net
1153863903 M * TheDOC hi
1153864221 M * TheDOC if my host has two network interfaces, can i configure my vservers to only use one of the interfaces?
1153864320 J * cdrx ~legoater@bas1-malton22-1167905064.dsl.bell.ca
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1153869648 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1153869652 M * Bertl evening folks!
1153870138 M * m3t00 hello
1153870159 M * Bertl hey m3t00! what's up?
1153870175 M * m3t00 well, i just got an vserver running, :-)
1153870186 M * Bertl congrats!
1153870190 M * m3t00 thanks
1153870201 M * Bertl TheDOC: reg. interfaces, yes and no
1153870204 M * m3t00 i have a question though,   :-|
1153870218 M * m3t00 ?
1153870241 M * Bertl TheDOC: Linux-VServer networking is IP based, so you can restrict them, but not 'the interfaces' per se ...
1153870246 M * Bertl m3t00: okay, shoot
1153870275 M * m3t00 well, i can "enter" the server, but how do i ssh to it?
1153870282 M * Bertl TheDOC: nevertheless, the kernel will (with the proper flags set) only show interfaces which carry ips assigned to them
1153870316 M * Bertl m3t00: same as to any other machine, but to answer the question you actually wanted to ask ... :)
1153870329 M * m3t00 yea?
1153870335 M * Bertl m3t00: you have to keep the host's sshd from binding to all interfaces
1153870353 M * Bertl m3t00: then the guest sshd will start _and_ bind to the ips assingned to it
1153870355 M * m3t00 is it in the docs?
1153870376 M * m3t00 i only have lo and eth0
1153870381 M * Bertl yes, I think it is on every second page but it is a common mistake
1153870400 M * m3t00 ok, i'll do some more reading...
1153870404 M * Bertl the host (i.e. the physical machine) is not restricted in binding
1153870405 M * m3t00 thanks for your time
1153870417 M * m3t00 ok
1153870419 M * Bertl i.e. if you start sshd, it will by default bind to 0.0.0.0
1153870429 M * Bertl (or better known as ADD_ANY)
1153870434 M * Bertl *ADDR
1153870452 M * Bertl while this is okay for the guest services (as they are restricted to a subset of ips)
1153870481 M * m3t00 eth0 is dhcp'd can i just bind it to the dhcp address?
1153870499 M * Bertl this is not fine for the host (but you can work around that by using the Listen directive in sshd)
1153870511 M * m3t00 ok
1153870517 M * Bertl or you can (if it is dynamically)
1153870536 M * Bertl asign a local/private address and do SNAT/DNAT on that one
1153870547 M * m3t00 ok
1153870565 M * m3t00 i'm just playing with this(on my laptop), ...
1153870568 M * Bertl do you have physical access to the machine?
1153870575 M * Bertl ah, that answers it :)
1153870583 M * m3t00 maybe i should set it up on a server downstairs
1153870592 M * Bertl okay, in this case I'd simply disable the sshd on the host 
1153870601 M * m3t00 k
1153870607 M * Bertl then restart the guest and you will be able to ssh to the guest
1153870624 M * Bertl (given that it runs/contains an sshd :)
1153870625 M * m3t00 and then it should just work?
1153870637 M * Bertl yep, no need to modify anything for the guest
1153870639 M * m3t00 thank you very much
1153870647 M * Bertl you're welcome!
1153870705 M * Bertl okay, I'm off to bed now .. will be back tomorrow! have fun everyone! cya!
1153870712 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
1153871071 J * dlezcano ~dlezcano@AToulouse-252-1-77-108.w81-49.abo.wanadoo.fr
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