1153612855 M * doener could you provide the output of "vserver --debug foo start"? (http://paste.linux-vserver.org) 1153612949 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1153613107 M * tgk http://paste.linux-vserver.org/208 1153613341 M * doener /usr/bin/env and /usr/sbin/vcontext exist and are executable, right? 1153613371 M * doener well, if env wasn't you'd be in trouble anyways I guess ;) 1153613429 M * tgk jep they both exist and are executable 1153613474 M * tgk /etc/vservers/.defaults/run.rev is also correct and /var/run/vservers.rev is there and has a file in it too 1153613606 Q * coocoon Quit: KVIrc 3.2.0 'Realia' 1153613694 M * doener ok, what about: chcontext --xid 40000 /usr/lib/util-vserver/save_ctxinfo /etc/vservers/archtest /bin/true 1153613710 M * doener (replace with some unused xid if necessary) 1153613842 M * tgk didnt seem to help, its changed to 40000 now tho 1153613874 M * doener no error message? 1153613886 M * tgk New security context is 40000 1153613890 M * tgk thats all it told me 1153613917 M * tgk you think it could be grsec somewhere? 1153613923 M * tgk it did enable all chroot restrictions 1153613972 M * doener hm, dmesg or syslog should probably have some information then 1153614013 M * tgk unfortunaltly not :( 1153614114 M * tgk if i run the chcontext again i do get an error: save_ctxinfo: open("/var/run/vservers/archtest"): File exists 1153614329 M * doener that's ok, the tools usually remove that file, we didn't 1153614394 M * doener feel free to delete it 1153614543 M * tgk im recompiling the kernel without grsec/pax enabled, just want to be sure its not grsec messing with it 1153614710 M * doener nah, just found sth. similar in the logs, they already did that test and it was not grsec 1153614921 M * doener hm, let's check permissions... ls -ld /{,vservers{,/archtest}} 1153614923 J * mire ~mire@61-167-222-85.COOL.ADSL.VLine.Verat.NET 1153614934 M * doener and: showattr -d /{,vservers{,/archtest}} 1153614953 M * Skram_NYC anyone do HA testing? 1153615056 M * Skram_NYC damn, i cant find the eps file now 1153615069 M * Skram_NYC its on my toher computer.. i only have one with a grey background.. 1153615069 M * tgk drwxr-xr-x 18 root root 4096 2006-07-23 01:40 /vservers/archtest/ and /vservers has the same perms 1153615090 M * tgk ---bui- /vservers/archtest and again /vservers has the same 1153615115 M * doener hm, / is missing 1153615131 M * tgk thats one has the same too, sorry :p 1153615136 M * tgk dont want to paste too many lines 1153615174 M * doener hm, no barrier at all... no idea then, sorry. and I need to get back to learning, exams soon 1153615210 M * doener tgk: but there are logs of the channel at http://irc.13thfloor.at/LOG/ 1153615214 M * tgk its cool, thanks for the help! 1153615232 M * tgk i will make a dump of this install and redo it all from scratch 1153615234 M * doener using google's site:http://... option you can search them quite well (I've not been successful though) 1153615248 M * tgk something musta gone wrong somewhere along the way 1153615254 M * doener so if that was actually solved, you might find an answer there 1153615260 M * tgk ah, might try that before reinstalling :p 1153615262 M * tgk cheers 1153615265 M * tgk good luck with your study 1153615267 M * doener you're welcome 1153615270 M * doener thanks! 1153615392 M * Skram_NYC is uml an architecture? it says so on the site? 1153617545 Q * lilo2 Remote host closed the connection 1153617593 J * lilo2 hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org 1153618656 Q * mkhl Quit: 1153619045 N * nokoya nokoyaz 1153619050 N * nokoyaz nokoya 1153620815 J * ray6 ~ray@vh5.gcsc2.ray.net 1153620843 M * ray6 greetings from NYC... there's actually a vserver presentation going on here, surprised :) 1153627636 Q * infowolfe Quit: Leaving 1153630830 Q * lilo2 Remote host closed the connection 1153630920 J * lilo2 hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org 1153632775 M * Skram_NYC ray6: that you? 1153632790 M * Skram_NYC oh man, i got nervous.. I really do know my stuff, dude 1153633140 M * ray6 skram: yeah thatme... 1153633144 M * Skram_NYC yeah 1153633161 M * Skram_NYC sorry, shit happened before the presentation.. didnt feel prepared, yadda yadda 1153633173 M * Skram_NYC Im not going back tomorrow.. have family obligations 1153633195 M * ray6 oh, were continuing to defcon bycar... 1153633234 M * ray6 i missed mmy familybusiniss already today 1153633245 M * Skram_NYC heh 1153633247 M * Skram_NYC right on 1153633273 M * ray6 (sorry for my writing, Im on a nokia 9300 in the HHH right now) 1153633351 M * Skram_NYC nice.. 1153633361 M * Skram_NYC im back in brooklyn 1153633386 M * ray6 were in wherever.. guess brooklyn too :) 1153633447 M * Skram_NYC yeah... we are in a different part, i forget exactly where HHH is 1153633449 M * Skram_NYC well, have fun 1153633479 M * ray6 thanks 1153633648 Q * meandtheshell Quit: bye bye ... 1153639096 J * zkbrsnie ~zkbrsnie@83-64-146-226.klosterneuburg.xdsl-line.inode.at 1153639221 J * DreamerC ~dreamerc@59-112-6-94.dynamic.hinet.net 1153639403 Q * cdrx Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1153639457 Q * lilo2 Remote host closed the connection 1153639583 J * lilo2 hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org 1153639936 Q * DreamerC Quit: leaving 1153641520 J * chand ~chand@gw.net81-65-27.noos.fr 1153643443 Q * chand Quit: chand 1153644120 N * jake- _jake- 1153644366 J * Viper0482 ~Viper0482@p54976947.dip.t-dialin.net 1153645694 J * pisco ~pampel@p5087986B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1153645952 Q * pisc1 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1153646981 J * root-80686 ~80686@p549F0AB5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1153646997 M * root-80686 hi 1153647037 M * root-80686 is there a way to get kernelspace nfsd working within a vserver? 1153647129 J * bonbons ~bonbons@83.222.36.236 1153647396 M * root-80686 huhu? 1153647559 J * coocoon ~coocoon@p54A06518.dip.t-dialin.net 1153648043 P * root-80686 1153650572 Q * renihs Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1153651238 Q * coocoon Quit: KVIrc 3.2.0 'Realia' 1153651358 J * coocoon ~coocoon@p54A06518.dip.t-dialin.net 1153652096 J * pisc1 ~pampel@p5087986B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1153653624 Q * lilo2 Remote host closed the connection 1153653662 J * lilo2 hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org 1153655337 Q * pisc1 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1153656028 J * pisc1 ~pampel@p5087986B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1153656537 M * tgk doener: i got vserver working now, i redid everything from scatch 1153656548 M * tgk got some permission issue's now tho.. inside the vservers 1153656555 M * tgk bash: /usr/bin/updatedb: Permission denied 1153656560 M * tgk for example 1153656637 M * tgk could not extract usr/bin/slocate: Permission denied 1153656644 M * tgk weird 1153656752 Q * tgk Quit: 1153656782 J * chris_ ~chris@ppp162-215.static.internode.on.net 1153656810 M * chris_ hi all 1153656867 M * chris_ will a virtual server prevent buggy code from crashing the kernel? 1153656915 M * FaUl chris_: proberly not 1153657016 M * FaUl if buggy code crashes the kernel, this is a kernel-bug - as every vserver uses the same kernel it is likely that the code will also crash the kernel from inside a vserver 1153657062 M * FaUl though its possible that the reduced caps in the vserver or virtualisation-stuff prevents the kernel-crash - but don't relay on that 1153657412 M * FaUl if i remember correctly there is any way to add new ip-addresses to a running vserver without restarting it in vs2.1 - how is that done again? 1153657493 M * daniel_hozac FaUl: if your guest only had one IP address previously, you're gonna have to restart all the services anyway for them to pick it up. 1153657580 M * coocoon FaUl: this could help http://deb.riseup.net/vserver/usage/ --> Howto add an IP to a running vserver, without restarting it? 1153657631 M * FaUl daniel_hozac: iirc ircd-hybrid can add extra ip-adresses without losing all connected clients with /rehash 1153657654 M * daniel_hozac coocoon: that doesn't work with util-vserver 0.30.210.. 1153657663 J * yang ~yang@cpe-213-157-253-172.dynamic.amis.net 1153657683 M * coocoon daniel_hozac: oh aha ;-) 1153657701 M * doener daniel_hozac: why not? 1153657707 M * daniel_hozac doener: static nids. 1153657712 M * daniel_hozac doener: that relies on dynamic nids 1153657725 M * doener ah, I see 1153657750 M * doener so you killed my magic! :) 1153657756 M * daniel_hozac hehe. 1153657805 M * FaUl uhm ok - have to restart the ircd 1153657809 M * doener btw, after 5 hours of rendering (POVRay is sooo damn slow), I noticed a copy/paste error in my model :( 1153657822 M * daniel_hozac ouch! 1153657866 M * doener after that I decided that 800x600 is enough (took only about 4 hours to render) 1153657887 M * daniel_hozac "only", lol. 1153657900 M * doener the 1280x960 one took 10:20 1153657928 M * doener http://magicwars.de/cassette.png -- that's the result 1153657929 M * FaUl doener: which model on which hardware? 1153657931 M * daniel_hozac FaUl: chbind6 is able to add addresses to running guests, but it requires an IPv6 patched kernel to build, and as i said, you'd have to restart the services anyhow. 1153657947 M * FaUl daniel_hozac: ic 1153658029 M * chris_ cool pic 1153658032 M * doener FaUl: X2 4400+, but POVRay only uses one cpu, so... the area lights and the massive level of reflection are evil, as well as the interior of the lower part of the cassette, lots of refractions 1153658052 M * FaUl doener: yes, ic ;-) 1153658072 Q * pisc1 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1153658118 M * yang doener: will I get into hall of fame, becouse of the donation :) ? 1153658236 M * doener yeah, guess that's due ;) 1153658341 M * doener Slovenia is SL, right? 1153658345 M * yang no, SI 1153658355 M * doener dammit ;) 1153658470 M * doener the usual "using Linux-VServer" entry is correct or is there anything else we should mention (besides the donation)? 1153658562 M * yang i think it´s ok 1153658611 M * doener ok, so you're in 1153658626 M * yang Is there any need for you to test the project on sparc, pa-risc boxes? 1153658634 M * yang I could give access 1153658664 M * doener don't know about the current sparc status, IIRC Bertl has a PA-RISC in his basement... daniel_hozac? 1153658670 M * daniel_hozac i think so too. 1153658693 M * daniel_hozac and as i recall, FaUl is shipping him a sparc? 1153658704 M * FaUl the ultra2 is ready and waits for some shuttle from dortmund (germany) to vienna (austria) 1153658706 M * yang I also have a SGI mips 1153658758 J * pisc1 ~pampel@p5087986B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1153658770 M * doener mips is probably quite interesting for Bertl, I don't remember that we ever tested on mips 1153658792 M * daniel_hozac i think Greek0 testing on MIPS a while ago. 1153658855 M * doener hm, I remember him having an Alpha 1153658860 J * vrwttnmtu ~eryktyktu@82-69-161-137.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk 1153658876 M * vrwttnmtu Hey all. Can anyone else reach f278.mail.vip.ukl.yahoo.com ? 1153658893 M * vrwttnmtu It doesn't get further than my ISP for me. 1153658908 A * vrwttnmtu waves at everyone 1153658917 M * phedny vrwttnmtu: no reply from here 1153658923 M * vrwttnmtu phedny, And a traceroute? 1153658935 A * phedny doens't have traceroute capability from here 1153658938 M * vrwttnmtu Aaah, OK 1153658939 M * bonbons fyi: just bumped ipv6 patch to 2.6.17.6-vs2.1.1-rc26 (though there is an IPv6 leakage though ifconfig to fix) 1153658949 M * daniel_hozac 2006-01-06 19:36:39 ah, almost forgot, kudos for the mips stuff goes to Greek0! 1153658959 M * vrwttnmtu bonbons, Wicked :) 1153658974 M * daniel_hozac bonbons: i did that a while ago, though i think it was for 2.6.17-vs2.1.1-rc24. 1153658994 M * vrwttnmtu daniel_hozac, But you said that wasn't tested/auditted? 1153659013 M * bonbons 25->26 had the change in nid_t -> struct nx_info* 1153659015 M * doener vrwttnmtu: 1 * * * 1153659029 M * doener that's how a trace from here starts... 1153659040 M * daniel_hozac bonbons: yeah, and the ifa_local rather than ifa_address. 1153659053 M * vrwttnmtu doener, I lose it 2 hops out, just as it's leaving my ISP 1153659073 M * vrwttnmtu Wonder if Yahoo in the UK has fallen off the net? 1153659079 J * cdrx ~legoater@wm402rot.66.ADSL.NetSurf.Net 1153659083 M * daniel_hozac (well, that was a -rc23 thing) 1153659099 A * vrwttnmtu checks news for bombs in the UK 1153659127 A * vrwttnmtu doesn't find anything. 1153659227 M * vrwttnmtu 2 gadamer-dsl.zen.net.uk (62.3.83.3) 21.214 ms 18.791 ms 20.275 ms 1153659227 M * vrwttnmtu 3 * * * 1153659227 M * vrwttnmtu 4 * 1153659229 M * vrwttnmtu Hmm 1153659302 Q * pisc1 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1153659359 Q * pisco Quit: Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/ 1153659756 M * vrwttnmtu Wow. It's not just Yahoo. Can anyone try a trace to this too? 212.78.82.28 1153659934 M * daniel_hozac bonbons: http://daniel.hozac.com/vserver/delta-bonbons-ipv6.diff interdiff. 1153659954 M * daniel_hozac bonbons: is that intentional? 1153659954 M * doener vrwttnmtu: same result 1153659975 M * bonbons at least one is a hunk that got lost 1153659976 M * vrwttnmtu doener, Think some datacentre in the UK has died. 1153660053 Q * FireEgl Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1153660063 M * bonbons daniel_hozac: was just checking at addrconf.c for the leakage, and you just confirmed what I was just looking at 1153660752 J * FireEgl Atlantica@Atlantica.DollarDNS.Net 1153660808 Q * zkbrsnie Quit: 1153661338 M * chris_ how do i rename a server, is it as simple as just renaming the directories? 1153661474 M * bonbons chris_: move directory in /etc/vservers/ and change /etc/vserver//name to reflect the new name (just be careful when doing it with a running guest) 1153661547 M * bonbons the symlinks under /etc/vservers// make also need to be adjusted (otherwise lock files and guest's root will remain under old name) 1153661874 M * chris_ yep symlinks needed to be changed 1153661903 M * chris_ really? i just changed ever file, lock and guests root 1153662055 M * chris_ it all works 1153662253 Q * FireEgl Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1153662394 Q * cehteh Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1153662864 J * FireEgl Atlantica@Atlantica.CJB.Net 1153662983 J * cehteh foobar@cehteh.homeunix.org 1153663437 J * blizz_ ~blizz@evilhackerdu.de 1153663437 Q * blizz Read error: Connection reset by peer 1153664157 J * lilalinux ~plasma@h1-gw.of.net-lab.net 1153664903 Q * vrwttnmtu Remote host closed the connection 1153664907 J * meandtheshell ~markus@85-125-231-199.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at 1153665259 J * root-80686 ~80686@p549F0AB5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1153665887 Q * coocoon Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1153666436 Q * mire Read error: Operation timed out 1153666457 J * coocoon ~coocoon@p54A06A7F.dip.t-dialin.net 1153666620 Q * coocoon Quit: 1153666942 J * sadgin ~gin@tonic.iis.nsk.su 1153666948 M * sadgin hi all 1153667039 J * mire ~mire@226-166-222-85.COOL.ADSL.VLine.Verat.NET 1153670285 J * coocoon ~coocoon@p54A06A7F.dip.t-dialin.net 1153670894 Q * sadgin Read error: Connection reset by peer 1153670907 J * sadgin ~gin@tonic.iis.nsk.su 1153671341 Q * sadgin Read error: Connection reset by peer 1153671356 J * sadgin ~gin@tonic.iis.nsk.su 1153673554 Q * lilo2 Remote host closed the connection 1153675173 Q * mire Quit: Leaving 1153676538 J * the_hydra ~a_mulyadi@202.59.168.5 1153678132 Q * the_hydra Quit: 1153678353 J * lilo2 hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org 1153678635 J * Pazzo ~thomas@host130-250-static.72-81-b.business.telecomitalia.it 1153681771 Q * sezuan Quit: leaving 1153682797 Q * lilalinux Remote host closed the connection 1153684192 J * Pedro_LARA ~Pedro@201.78.175.167 1153684209 J * e4132 ~o8656@crlspr-24.233.181.107.myacc.net 1153684209 J * n7699 ~c4469@cache1-2.ruh.isu.net.sa 1153684209 J * u1906 ~w8020@212.93.193.72 1153684209 J * l1442 ~x8788@200.52.193.227 1153684209 J * g1375 ~i1412@50.Red-80-25-12.staticIP.rima-tde.net 1153684209 J * w2442 ~b2198@ip72-197-10-169.sd.sd.cox.net 1153684209 J * v973 ~g6614@83.223.148.154 1153684209 J * u6979 ~t3378@200.6.198.226 1153684209 J * a8447 ~r4563@210.0.209.108 1153684210 J * s6255 ~z5691@218.149.84.120 1153684210 J * o8441 ~p5363@203.115.1.135 1153684210 J * f8817 ~t7099@220-133-48-77.HINET-IP.hinet.net 1153684210 J * b67 ~w4804@cache2.bayanat.com.sa 1153684210 J * e4902 ~t4370@58.68.84.76 1153684210 J * z3347 ~f9117@61.17.252.5 1153684210 J * r4784 ~j8765@196.203.65.34 1153684210 J * v7084 ~v3934@86.55.151.169 1153684210 J * u9643 ~b3033@84.122.137.140 1153684210 J * o9807 ~z8395@203.109.98.190 1153684211 J * q8536 proxy@ejw242.internetdsl.tpnet.pl 1153684211 J * w6011 ~r1468@63.218.102.50 1153684213 M * w2442 irc,brasirc,com,br THE BEST 1153684213 M * u1906 irc,brasirc,com,br THE BEST 1153684213 M * n7699 irc,brasirc,com,br THE BEST 1153684213 M * l1442 irc,brasirc,com,br THE BEST 1153684213 Q * l1442 Killed (FloodServ ((FloodServ) Warning, you have triggered a network protection. Stop flooding!)) 1153684213 M * v973 irc,brasirc,com,br THE BEST 1153684213 M * u6979 irc,brasirc,com,br THE BEST 1153684213 M * e4132 irc,brasirc,com,br THE BEST 1153684213 M * a8447 irc,brasirc,com,br THE BEST 1153684213 M * f8817 irc,brasirc,com,br THE BEST 1153684213 M * s6255 irc,brasirc,com,br THE BEST 1153684213 M * o8441 irc,brasirc,com,br THE BEST 1153684213 M * b67 irc,brasirc,com,br THE BEST 1153684213 M * g1375 irc,brasirc,com,br THE BEST 1153684213 M * u9643 irc,brasirc,com,br THE BEST 1153684213 M * v7084 irc,brasirc,com,br THE BEST 1153684213 Q * v973 autokilled: (FloodServ) You have triggered a network protection Text/Flood. Please stop flooding! 1153684213 Q * w2442 autokilled: (FloodServ) You have triggered a network protection Text/Flood. Please stop flooding! 1153684213 Q * n7699 autokilled: (FloodServ) You have triggered a network protection Text/Flood. Please stop flooding! 1153684213 Q * u1906 autokilled: (FloodServ) You have triggered a network protection Text/Flood. Please stop flooding! 1153684213 Q * e4132 autokilled: (FloodServ) You have triggered a network protection Text/Flood. Please stop flooding! 1153684213 Q * f8817 autokilled: (FloodServ) You have triggered a network protection Text/Flood. Please stop flooding! 1153684213 Q * u6979 autokilled: (FloodServ) You have triggered a network protection Text/Flood. Please stop flooding! 1153684213 Q * a8447 autokilled: (FloodServ) You have triggered a network protection Text/Flood. Please stop flooding! 1153684213 M * e4902 irc,brasirc,com,br THE BEST 1153684213 M * z3347 irc,brasirc,com,br THE BEST 1153684213 Q * s6255 autokilled: (FloodServ) You have triggered a network protection Text/Flood. Please stop flooding! 1153684213 Q * o8441 autokilled: (FloodServ) You have triggered a network protection Text/Flood. Please stop flooding! 1153684213 M * r4784 irc,brasirc,com,br THE BEST 1153684213 Q * g1375 autokilled: (FloodServ) You have triggered a network protection Text/Flood. Please stop flooding! 1153684213 Q * b67 autokilled: (FloodServ) You have triggered a network protection Text/Flood. Please stop flooding! 1153684213 Q * u9643 autokilled: (FloodServ) You have triggered a network protection Text/Flood. Please stop flooding! 1153684213 Q * v7084 autokilled: (FloodServ) You have triggered a network protection Text/Flood. Please stop flooding! 1153684213 J * n7330 ~d2625@c-71-230-91-240.hsd1.pa.comcast.net 1153684213 Q * e4902 autokilled: (FloodServ) You have triggered a network protection Text/Flood. Please stop flooding! 1153684213 Q * z3347 autokilled: (FloodServ) You have triggered a network protection Text/Flood. Please stop flooding! 1153684214 Q * r4784 autokilled: (FloodServ) You have triggered a network protection Text/Flood. Please stop flooding! 1153684214 J * z3054 99@200-233-144-171.xf-static.ctbcnetsuper.com.br 1153684214 M * o9807 irc,brasirc,com,br THE BEST 1153684214 Q * o9807 autokilled: (FloodServ) You have triggered a network protection Text/Flood. Please stop flooding! 1153684214 M * q8536 irc,brasirc,com,br THE BEST 1153684214 M * n7330 irc,brasirc,com,br THE BEST 1153684214 Q * q8536 autokilled: (FloodServ) You have triggered a network protection Text/Flood. Please stop flooding! 1153684214 Q * n7330 autokilled: (FloodServ) You have triggered a network protection Text/Flood. Please stop flooding! 1153684214 M * z3054 irc,brasirc,com,br THE BEST 1153684215 M * w6011 irc,brasirc,com,br THE BEST 1153684215 Q * z3054 autokilled: (FloodServ) You have triggered a network protection Text/Flood. Please stop flooding! 1153684215 Q * w6011 autokilled: (FloodServ) You have triggered a network protection Text/Flood. Please stop flooding! 1153684289 P * Pedro_LARA 1153684318 M * doener I really wonder how stupid one has to be to actually believe that someone might fall for such "advertisement" 1153684422 M * daniel_hozac yeah. 1153684437 M * doener It's more like: "Look, we're real $§&§$&%§$&$§%, stay away from our irc network"... I see two possibilites: a) it's an irc network of someone the spammer does not like or b) reverse psychology tricks! 1153684459 M * daniel_hozac lol. 1153684500 M * bonbons and the whole certainly executed by a cloud of infected computers... 1153684565 M * doener ah, right, that makes possible: c) subconcious advertisement for using more secure operating systems 1153684565 Q * Viper0482 Remote host closed the connection 1153684596 M * doener no, wait, that'd require a smart person doing that ;) 1153684617 M * daniel_hozac hehe. 1153684618 M * bonbons doener: hehe, but then that person is acting on wrong channels... 1153684635 M * phedny at least one very important thing of advertisements he succeeded in 1153684641 M * phedny you guys start a conversation 'bout it ;) 1153684659 M * phedny anyway, I'm going off to bed 1153684664 M * doener sleep well! 1153684664 M * daniel_hozac about the advert, not the product ;) 1153684733 J * Maurits ~Mauritsch@parabol.xs4all.nl 1153684838 J * matti_ matti@linux.gentoo.pl 1153685014 Q * matti Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1153685014 N * matti_ matti 1153685044 M * meandtheshell daniel_hozac: hi daniel - you've got a clue where Bertl is gone to? Vacation? 1153685061 M * daniel_hozac probably internet connection problems still. 1153685072 M * daniel_hozac IIRC he expected it to be fixed by tuesday. 1153685131 P * Maurits Leaving 1153685148 M * meandtheshell daniel_hozac: ic - that's funny since I live about 80km away from him and never ever encountered network outages or so ... maybe another ISP :-) 1153685165 M * meandtheshell thx 1153685221 M * doener 80km is a lot 1153685259 M * doener don't know about isdn lines, but a dsl line is limited to about 3-5km IIRC 1153685271 J * pisco ~pampel@p5087986B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1153685271 M * bonbons that's a full country length ;) 1153685306 M * doener so there might be lots of infrastructure difference between A <- 80km -> B 1153685493 M * FaUl if you have fiber, you may use one single ZX-gigabit-link ;-) 1153685515 M * FaUl (of course you would need at least two singlemode-fiber( 1153685606 M * bonbons Faul: but which ISP offers such nice links at an acceptable price? 1153685671 M * FaUl bonbons: depends on your location and the number of unused fibers on your desired way 1153685753 M * bonbons FaUl: if I look here in my area there is very little fiber lying around... and getting more than 256kb uplink is already expensive! 1153685781 M * FaUl where are you from? 1153685788 M * bonbons luxembourg 1153685829 A * FaUl is currently trying to get an 10mbit at an exaptable price for some internet-project 1153685852 M * FaUl (which will proberly use some kind of radio or optical laser-links 1153685853 M * FaUl ) 1153685879 M * FaUl bonbons: mhh, i don't have much experience with internet in luxembourg 1153685894 Q * pisco Quit: Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/ 1153686013 M * bonbons FaUl: it's still quite monopolistic, except for some TV-kabel companies in bigger villages/towns there is only the original P&T 1153686086 M * FaUl anyway - the basic thing is internet is getting cheaper and cheaper for hugh bandwidths 1153686137 M * bonbons that's a good thing, but it needs to propagate downwards... 1153686151 M * FaUl for example in dortmund you have to pay ~600eur for some fiber into your house and than there is not much difference between 6mbit, 10 mbit, 100mbit, or even gigabit 1153686203 M * bonbons setup or monthly? 1153686226 M * FaUl monthly , setup depends on contract-time 1153686271 M * bonbons here it would be way more! for 1000€ a month you get a symetric poor copper 2MBit line here 1153686393 Q * shedi Quit: Leaving 1153686510 M * FaUl bonbons: its 200eur here for 2.3mbit 1153686580 J * pisco ~pampel@p5087986B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1153686614 M * bonbons FaUl: here it's way to expensive, for DSL max is 3M down, 256k up 1153686645 A * FaUl currently uses 2mbit down, 512mbit up at roundabout 35eur via tv-cable 1153686762 M * FaUl anyway, i'm trying to get some 10mbit flat for some comparable price of sdsl if i manage the path from the isp-pop to destination by myself 1153686916 M * meandtheshell doener: bertl uses isdn? surely not or? I use 3MBit up and 0,5 down from http://www6.inode.at/inode.at/privat/internet/xdsl-privat/ 1153686974 M * meandtheshell doener: dsl is not limited to XY km - how far away you can be depends on "Kanaldämpfung" 1153686994 M * meandtheshell can be 1 or 10 km 1153687286 M * meandtheshell *3Mbit down and 0,5 up 1153687995 M * doener at least when I got my first dsl line, there was a limit of about 3.5km, because the "Kanaldämpfung" gets far too worse beyond that 1153688014 Q * sadgin Read error: Connection reset by peer 1153688038 M * doener and Bertl still uses an isdn line, he's quite happy that dsl will be available soon (maybe that's even what he gets on tuesday) 1153688087 J * sadgin ~gin@tonic.iis.nsk.su 1153688103 M * daniel_hozac hehe, i currently pay about 40 EUR for 100 Mbps down, 10 Mbps up. 1153688142 M * doener wow, you don't even get 6Mbps down for that here 1153688150 M * bonbons daniel_hozac: that's cheap! 1153688162 M * doener ADSL2+ at 20MBps down is about EUR 70 1153688186 M * bonbons I'm at A-DSL 1Mb down, 128k up for 30€/month 1153688249 M * doener I'm on 2Mbit/384kbps for 35, could have gotten 6Mbps/384kbps for 50, but that would have been a 2 year contract, and prices are falling, so I didn't want such a long lasting contract 1153688449 A * trippeh hugs his ADSL2+ 20Mbps 1153688457 M * trippeh Though I forced it to ADSL1 mode due to latency 1153688459 M * trippeh ;-) 1153688472 J * Aiken ~james@tooax6-085.dialup.optusnet.com.au 1153688481 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1153688570 M * doener http://www6.inode.at/inode.at/privat/internet/xdsl-privat/ 1153688576 M * doener oops 1153688695 M * meandtheshell daniel_hozac: so live in a server rack - no? :) 1153688759 M * meandtheshell 100 Mbps thats a hell of a connection - I've got that too -. from my notebook to my switch and back *g* 1153688798 M * daniel_hozac meandtheshell: how did you know?! :) 1153688838 M * meandtheshell daniel_hozac: just thougt that might be the only way and far more that 40 euros is you rent then :) 1153688853 M * daniel_hozac though technically, it's the server rack that lives with me. 1153688853 M * meandtheshell *your rent then 1153688968 M * meandtheshell daniel_hozac: so you're a mighty bot with direct backbone connect to oversea carriers - lol 1153689004 M * meandtheshell you have gattling guns mounted as well? what about ground to air missles? 1153689007 M * meandtheshell :) 1153689063 M * daniel_hozac hehe, nah, this is the mainstream connection here. 1153689107 M * meandtheshell doener: to be honest: where do you get this insane connection? May you provide an URL? 1153689133 M * meandtheshell oops - I meant daniel not doener - my fault :) 1153689138 M * daniel_hozac hehe. 1153689154 M * daniel_hozac /whois ;) 1153689172 M * meandtheshell see - private 100 Mbps makes me shackling that much ... 1153689187 M * daniel_hozac http://www.bredbandsbolaget.se/portal/PRIVAT_BREDBAND (swedish though) 1153689190 M * meandtheshell ok ic 1153689238 M * doener hm... sounds like breadband... so that's 100 million breads per second? 1153689266 M * daniel_hozac exactly :) 1153689282 Q * pisco Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1153689296 M * doener ok, back to learning, I'm out of bad jokes now ;) 1153689308 M * daniel_hozac hehe, have fun! 1153689367 M * doener probably not... Guess it will take some time till I've grasped that radiosity equation... principle is clear, but that equation... 1153689423 A * meandtheshell loves equations - they same so much of talking 1153689436 M * meandtheshell s/same/save/ 1153689463 M * doener well, once you understand them, of course... 1153689510 M * meandtheshell daniel_hozac: last question (maybe bad joke :-)) - you life in sweden? 1153689524 M * daniel_hozac correct. 1153689540 J * shedi ~siggi@inferno.lhi.is 1153689547 M * root-80686 hey there 1153689565 M * daniel_hozac hello 1153689576 M * root-80686 same old question: 1153689588 M * meandtheshell all right then - so once more you guys up with next to lot of conifers. 100 Mbps - damn! 1153689589 M * root-80686 is there any way to get NFS inside a vserver working? 1153689590 M * meandtheshell :) 1153689605 M * root-80686 I tried compiling unfs without luck 1153689654 M * root-80686 and kernelspace nfsd gives me the same errors you can find a thounsand of times in google - with no solution 1153689780 M * daniel_hozac root-80686: why wouldn't userspace nfsd work? 1153689810 M * root-80686 daniel_hozac: i can't compile it... it seems to be broken... I could only find a beta-version from 2002 at sourceforge 1153689893 M * root-80686 well at least I don't care using NFS - i just have to share the data of one vserver with two other hosts 1153689912 M * root-80686 but samba seems to me as the worst solution 1153689918 M * daniel_hozac how so? 1153689939 M * daniel_hozac http://packages.debian.org/unstable/net/unfs3 did you try that? 1153690010 M * root-80686 daniel_hozac: no, i found it at sourceforge... thx for the link, i'll try that one! 1153690099 M * root-80686 ok, it compiled 1153690102 M * root-80686 super! 1153690117 M * root-80686 i'll try the rest tomorrow... have a nice sleep! 1153690131 M * daniel_hozac ok, good night! 1153690184 Q * root-80686 Quit: See you later. 1153691327 Q * sadgin Read error: Connection reset by peer 1153691384 J * heol ~hint@83.110.124.122 1153691404 J * sadgin ~gin@tonic.iis.nsk.su 1153691442 Q * Pazzo Quit: . 1153691637 M * Radiance any one can give a clue about this line, trying to strace where a module fails to load: 14288 init_module("?ELFAAA", 0x59f9) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) 1153692630 Q * sadgin Read error: Connection reset by peer 1153692703 J * sadgin ~gin@tonic.iis.nsk.su 1153693062 M * daniel_hozac Radiance: how are you loading the module? what module is it? are you trying to load it from a guest? 1153693118 M * Radiance well the script fails, so i did now an strace insmod bc.ko 1153693132 M * Radiance and got this part which looks promising 1153693134 M * Radiance init_module("%ELF", 0x59f9) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) 1153693134 M * Radiance write(2, "insmod: error inserting \'bc.ko\':"..., 61insmod: error inserting 'bc.ko': -1 Unknown symbol in module 1153693146 M * Radiance it's the bestcrypt module (just compiled it) 1153693177 M * daniel_hozac well, that error is pretty verbose. 1153693181 M * Radiance bc: Unknown symbol cpu_gdt_table 1153693182 M * daniel_hozac tells you exactly what's wrong. 1153693187 M * Radiance indeed 1153693193 M * Radiance so i checked System.map and it's there 1153693202 M * Radiance then i went to the kernel source and checked and it is exported 1153693211 Q * heol Quit: 1153693228 M * Radiance so i'm trying to see why it's saying it's unknown yet it exists 1153693231 M * Radiance :-) 1153693287 M * Radiance it worked fine up to 2.6.17.3 , after that it doesn't work anymore 1153693307 M * Radiance so something between .3 and .4 caused it most likely 1153693325 M * Radiance (also tried .5 and .6) 1153693326 M * daniel_hozac probably you changed your config. 1153693334 M * Radiance nah, did a make oldconfig 1153693344 M * daniel_hozac because .4, .5 and .6 are all really small. security fixes. 1153693376 M * Radiance yeah, i'm going to try and see the source code of the module, just guessing for now hehe 1153695091 M * [PUPPETS]Gonzo small? 1153695119 M * [PUPPETS]Gonzo you mean small in the meaning of "new features" not in the meaning of "non important"? 1153696953 J * chand ~chand@gw.net81-65-27.noos.fr 1153697075 M * doener small regarding the patch size I guess, difference from .3 to .6 is 3 changed lines IIRC 1153697234 Q * cdrx Quit: Leaving 1153697895 Q * sadgin Read error: Connection reset by peer 1153697903 J * s0undt3c1 ~s0undt3ch@bl7-241-151.dsl.telepac.pt 1153697967 J * sadgin ~gin@tonic.iis.nsk.su 1153698314 Q * s0undt3ch Read error: Operation timed out 1153698314 N * s0undt3c1 s0undt3ch