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1152067470 J * nokoya young@hi-230-82.tm.net.org.my
1152067523 J * Ben_zZz B.Lukas@89.106.66.199
1152067523 J * cryptronic crypt@mail.openvcp.org
1152067523 J * abi ~abi@enz.schiach.de
1152067523 J * Radiance cdb4fe4d30@halt.1984world.eu
1152067523 J * locksy ~locksy@mrtg.sisgroup.com.au
1152067523 J * pusling pusling@195.215.29.124
1152067523 J * ag- ag@caladan.roxor.cx
1152067523 J * anonc ~anonc@staffnet.internode.com.au
1152067523 J * bogus ~bogusano@fengor.net
1152067523 J * Wenix ~wenix@81.7.189.11
1152067523 J * SNy 935ff10299@bmx-chemnitz.de
1152067523 J * trippeh atomt@x.vx.no
1152067523 J * daniel_hozac ~daniel@c-2d1472d5.010-230-73746f22.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se
1152067523 J * virtuoso ~s0t0na@shisha.spb.ru
1152067523 J * _jake- psybnc@murlocs.org
1152067523 J * morrigan morrigan@212.16.62.52
1152068794 J * qos ~qos@211.90.82.139
1152069276 Q * qos Quit:  HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- 100,000+ downloads can't be wrong
1152071777 J * Term ~PhAnATiC@201.135.147.75
1152073205 Q * Term Quit:  (-(PS)-) [v5.0.r02]  http://www.kalendas.net
1152074656 N * nammie Nam
1152075808 J * kir ~kir@swsoft-mipt-nat.sw.ru
1152076547 Q * ken29147 Remote host closed the connection
1152077471 J * Viper0482 ~Viper0482@p54975FB1.dip.t-dialin.net
1152078349 J * coocoon ~coocoon@p54A05FB4.dip.t-dialin.net
1152078367 M * coocoon morning
1152078374 M * daniel_hozac morning.
1152079020 M * Hollow morning
1152079035 M * coocoon morning
1152079483 Q * coocoon Quit: KVIrc 3.2.0 'Realia'
1152079591 M * Hollow daniel_hozac: when setting up disk limits, should i get *_used by sum of all files in vdir, or just files in vdir with xid?
1152079625 M * daniel_hozac util-vserver only gets those marked with the xid.
1152079640 M * Hollow ok, thanks
1152079654 M * daniel_hozac because those are the only ones that are subtracted from the *_used when they're removed.
1152079656 M * Hollow vdu looks quite mesy ;)
1152079663 M * daniel_hozac hmm, how so?
1152079736 M * Hollow well, what are these hash functions about? and why not use ftw to go through dirs..?
1152079894 M * daniel_hozac initially the logic for deciding which directories to decend into was more complicated.
1152079947 M * Hollow mhm.. and the hash table? the only thing i can think of is to prevent double-count of hardlinks?
1152079953 M * daniel_hozac exactly.
1152079997 M * Hollow so, if the guest is unified it will not count the linked files?
1152080007 M * Hollow (at least for space)
1152080011 M * daniel_hozac for a number of reasons.
1152080020 M * daniel_hozac the xid is 0 for those as well.
1152080042 M * Hollow links?
1152080056 M * daniel_hozac ?
1152080063 M * Hollow for whom is xid = 0?
1152080069 M * daniel_hozac unified files.
1152080112 M * Hollow does this apply for CoW, vunify and vhashify?
1152080134 M * daniel_hozac yes.
1152080145 M * daniel_hozac otherwise only one guest would be able to access the files.
1152080149 M * Hollow but as soon as cow breaks the link it has to get an xid, no?
1152080158 M * daniel_hozac right.
1152080161 M * Hollow ok..
1152080167 M * daniel_hozac at least, i assume so...
1152080261 M * Hollow vunify/vhashify have nothing to do with CoW, right?
1152080292 M * daniel_hozac well, they can be used to setup the links.
1152080304 M * daniel_hozac but i guess with CoW the idea is to have a template and then cp -al it.
1152080333 M * Hollow ok, great.. i will only implement cow then
1152080774 J * lilo2 ~0710AAD4@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net
1152080775 Q * teukka Read error: Connection reset by peer
1152081631 J * teukka ~teukka@193.65.190.29
1152081963 J * coocoon ~coocoon@p54A05FB4.dip.t-dialin.net
1152082572 J * dna ~naucki@dialer-175-171.kielnet.net
1152083721 J * schimmi ~sts@port-212-202-73-176.dynamic.qsc.de
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1152084242 J * lilo2 ~0710AAD4@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net
1152084377 J * Milf ~Miranda@ipsio161.ipsi.fraunhofer.de
1152084488 J * NetAsh ~NetAsh@62-212-199-5.elsis.lt
1152084519 P * NetAsh 
1152084526 N * otaku42_away otaku42
1152084864 M * phedny daniel_hozac: when does CoW break the link, when a file is opened in write mode or when an actual write occurs?
1152084906 M * daniel_hozac when it's opened.
1152084921 J * ||Cobra|| ~cob@pc-csa01.science.uva.nl
1152084967 M * phedny so if I do, for example, a recursive touch on a /usr directory it may increase disk usage quite a bit?
1152084980 M * daniel_hozac touch != opened for writing.
1152084995 M * daniel_hozac but yes.
1152086339 Q * Aiken Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1152086689 Q * complexmind Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1152087203 J * complexmind ~mark@81.2.84.162
1152087814 M * anonc mmm - adding ionice support looks like it'll just be something similar to nicefix or cpuset patches. One question though - if the io priorities are inherited from the initial program (init?) will they also apply if i do a 'vserver enter' and then run the program...'vserver enter' looks like it goes through the same /usr/lib/util-vserver/vserver.suexec script.
1152087879 M * daniel_hozac no, you'll have to set it on enter as well.
1152087902 M * daniel_hozac as it's not a child of the guest's init, it will not inherit it.
1152087931 M * Loki|muh  .::. Vorsicht, Sommer. .::. http://wiki.meinungsverstaerker.de/esf06 .::. http://moritz.faui2k3.org/The_C
1152087934 M * Loki|muh  .::. Vorsicht, Sommer. .::. http://wiki.meinungsverstaerker.de/esf06 .::. http://moritz.faui2k3.org/The_C
1152087937 M * Loki|muh  .::. Vorsicht, Sommer. .::. http://wiki.meinungsverstaerker.de/esf06 .::. http://moritz.faui2k3.org/The_C
1152087940 M * Loki|muh  .::. Vorsicht, Sommer. .::. http://wiki.meinungsverstaerker.de/esf06 .::. http://moritz.faui2k3.org/The_C
1152087940 Q * Loki|muh Killed (FloodServ ((FloodServ) Warning, you have triggered a network protection. Stop flooding!))
1152087973 J * Loki|muh loki@satanix.de
1152087981 M * Loki|muh uah :(
1152087985 M * Loki|muh i'm sorry
1152088143 M * anonc and it looks like ionice support requires preemption support (with 'no forced preemption' set ionice appears to fail silently). anyone else running recent smp vserver-2.1 kernels with preemption enabled (I get kernel panics)
1152088217 M * daniel_hozac how do you enable preemption?
1152088245 M * daniel_hozac i am running it on a UP box though, so i guess i won't be able to reproduce it.
1152088258 M * anonc daniel_hozac: is it the vserver utilities convention that a 'vserver enter' should get the capabilities as assigned to that vserver (rlimits, cpusets or whatever) or should the resulting vlogin be unemcombered?
1152088287 M * anonc daniel_hozac: Processor type and features ---> Preemption Model
1152088324 M * daniel_hozac enter should have the same limits as init.
1152088365 M * anonc so if i patch the utils correctly, it would get the same ionice limits that have been applied to the guest init.
1152088379 M * daniel_hozac CONFIG_PREEMPT=y
1152088424 M * daniel_hozac # uname -a
1152088424 M * daniel_hozac Linux capricciosa.hozac.com 2.6.17-vs2.1.1-rc24.ipv6 #8 SMP PREEMPT Sat Jul 1 03:24:19 CEST 2006 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
1152088446 M * daniel_hozac what causes the panic?
1152088460 M * anonc launching the vserver actually.
1152088468 M * anonc (ie running a program inside the vserver)
1152088515 M * anonc i wouldn't worry about it for the moment. I'll have to see if I can produce it on both smp amd64 and smp xeon before deciding if it is a real problem.
1152088546 M * daniel_hozac it's a UP box though.
1152088556 M * daniel_hozac but i'm not seeing any crashes.
1152088560 J * mc many@mc.netop.oftc.net
1152088618 M * anonc presumably smp on a single cpu system won't necessarily result in the same races as a true smp box...
1152088635 M * anonc just recompiling with CONFIG_PREEMPT=y now
1152088644 M * anonc dual dual-core amd64
1152088745 M * anonc rebooting...
1152088877 M * anonc no crash yet
1152089077 M * anonc nice ionice either, though.
1152089161 M * anonc mmm - yes there is. cool.
1152089189 M * anonc 2.6.17.1-vs2.1.1-rc24-amd64 #5 SMP PREEMPT
1152089235 M * daniel_hozac so no crash?
1152089305 Q * shedi Quit: Leaving
1152089332 M * anonc not this time - my testing wasn't exactly scientific - but I'm fairly sure I solved it by disabling preempt before. never mind. onto the ionice patch...
1152089403 J * melvin_ ~melvin@p54875436.dip.t-dialin.net
1152089448 J * mef ~mef@c-68-39-177-97.hsd1.nj.comcast.net
1152089489 Q * mef Quit: 
1152089509 Q * melvin Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1152090657 M * anonc mmm - looks like it works. manually adding in the ionice command to vserver.start results in all processes inheriting the ionice priorities
1152093192 Q * coocoon Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1152093265 J * coocoon ~coocoon@p54A05290.dip.t-dialin.net
1152093338 J * shedi ~siggi@213.190.108.50
1152093965 J * doener ~doener@i577BA2E0.versanet.de
1152093966 J * Curus ~Curus@kbhn-vbrg-sr0-vl209-213-185-8-10.perspektivbredband.net
1152093984 M * Curus Is there a handy way to tell vyum which mirror to pick?
1152094118 M * Curus Right now it takes half an hour to download 34MB when installing a new vserver
1152094138 M * Curus Even better would be if the packages were cached, of course
1152094173 M * daniel_hozac you could replace mirrorlist with baseurl in the *.repos.
1152094344 M * Curus Does vyum use the normal yum configuration from /etc/yum.conf?
1152094361 M * daniel_hozac no.
1152094373 M * Curus Where does it find its configuration?
1152094392 M * coocoon no from /usr/lib/util-vserver/.distribution/foo
1152094395 M * daniel_hozac /etc/vservers/.distributions/<dist>/yum.repos.d if present, otherwise /usr/lib*/util-vserver/distributions/<dist>/yum.repos.d
1152094408 M * daniel_hozac assuming external package management.
1152094423 M * daniel_hozac if you have internalized it, it will just be executed yum inside the guest.
1152094438 M * daniel_hozac s/executed/executing/
1152094670 M * Curus Yes I stick with external package management for now, the vservers are tiny
1152094934 M * harry is there a reason why vserver kernel patches don't use <kerneltree>/localversion-vs ?
1152094949 M * harry so, why we still patch the Makefile for that?
1152094969 M * Curus So if I copy /usr/lib/util-vserver/distributions/fc5/yum/yum.conf to /etc/vservers/.distributions/fc5/yum/yum.conf and edit it, that should take precedence. Testing now.
1152094989 M * daniel_hozac sure, but you realize yum.conf doesn't contain any repositories, right?
1152095177 M * Curus Yes, but if I could get it to use yum-fastestmirror I'm all set
1152095373 A * harry wants a quick course on vserver implementation!
1152095602 M * doener harry: probably noone knew about localversion* (at least I didn't know)
1152095604 J * cdrx ~legoater@cap31-3-82-227-199-249.fbx.proxad.net
1152095631 M * cdrx hi
1152095722 M * harry doener: who do i contact for that?
1152095726 M * harry or is this enough?
1152095802 M * harry # Take the contents of any files called localversion* and the config
1152095802 M * harry # variable CONFIG_LOCALVERSION and append them to KERNELRELEASE.
1152095802 M * harry # LOCALVERSION from the command line override all of this
1152095809 M * doener herbert, as usual ;)
1152095822 M * harry Bertl, dudeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee :)
1152095840 M * doener he wasn't online for some time, probably his line is still broken
1152095841 M * harry get your kernel hacking ass over here, this asshole has a question/suggestion
1152095999 P * mc .
1152096264 A * harry just patched my patch (2.6.16.20-g-v) to use localversion for grsec and vserver
1152096370 Q * Zaki Remote host closed the connection
1152096371 M * daniel_hozac doener: btw, how did the IS_IMMUTABLE checking go?
1152096406 M * mnemoc harry: public patch? :)
1152096447 M * daniel_hozac harry: you're not using 2.6.16.23 yet?
1152096523 M * harry daniel_hozac: nope
1152096528 M * harry mnemoc: off course
1152096536 M * harry http://ludit.kuleuven.be/software/vserver/
1152096542 M * mnemoc harry: thanks :)
1152096545 M * harry pn
1152096546 M * harry np
1152096561 M * harry daniel_hozac: i first want a diff for rc22-rc24
1152096571 M * harry then i can make a new one...
1152096590 M * mnemoc what happened to the idea of using git for vserver ?
1152096593 M * daniel_hozac harry: so make one.
1152096602 M * harry what are the bug/feature fixes between rc22-rc24
1152096607 M * daniel_hozac mnemoc: i don't think anyone managed to convince Bertl_oO yet ;)
1152096614 M * mnemoc daniel_hozac: :)
1152096639 M * harry daniel_hozac: if there is a great interest in it... i will :)
1152096661 M * harry but i need to know the diff between rc22 and rc24
1152096679 M * daniel_hozac harry: should basically be delta-peer-fix01 and reverting the memory split hunks.
1152096685 M * daniel_hozac (IIRC)
1152096689 M * daniel_hozac at least that's what my notes say.
1152096718 M * daniel_hozac (notes being http://daniel.hozac.com/vserver/2.0.2.deltas)
1152096790 M * harry i'm still thinking of what to do
1152096801 M * harry i could just switch to 2.6.17 too... makes patching a lot easier
1152096812 M * harry since grsec is only for 2.6.17 now
1152096815 M * harry vserver: idem
1152096834 A * harry looks @ 2.6.16-2.6.17 diffs...
1152096933 M * harry waaaaaaaaay to much to be... fun/useful
1152096935 M * Wonka harry: big fun.
1152096940 M * harry yeah :S
1152096958 M * Wonka "big" as in "megabytes, bzipped"
1152096970 M * harry http://www.kernel.org/diff/diffview.cgi?file=%2Fpub%2Flinux%2Fkernel%2Fv2.6%2Fpatch-2.6.17.bz2
1152096973 M * harry check it out :s
1152096985 M * harry  6321 files changed, 416664 insertions(+), 308709 deletions(-)
1152096998 M * harry :(
1152097049 M * teukka harry: http://www.kernelnewbies.org/LinuxChanges
1152097080 M * harry teukka: what does that tell me about the code quality?
1152097099 M * teukka nothing. but tells what has been changed
1152097107 M * harry looking @ the latest in kernel development (especially to sctp conntrack etc...) i don't trust those guys all that much :)
1152097148 M * daniel_hozac SCTP is just as flawed in 2.6.16...
1152097153 M * harry true
1152097174 M * harry but it tells you something about the rest of the code they allow in the kernel
1152097187 M * harry so 2.6.16 is more "reviewed" than the newest 2.6.17 code
1152097212 M * harry checkout the diffs between 2.6.17 releases
1152097214 M * daniel_hozac what makes you say that?
1152097221 M * harry only a few are also relevant for 2.6.16
1152097308 A * harry 0xf00d now
1152097411 M * doener that reminds me of someone who installed ssh1 because he didn't review the ssh2 source code yet and got a "guest" on his box just a few days later... (that was some years ago, but ssh1 was already known to be broken)
1152097439 M * daniel_hozac hehehe.
1152098086 J * schimmi2 ~sts@port-212-202-73-176.dynamic.qsc.de
1152098086 Q * schimmi Read error: Connection reset by peer
1152098182 M * doener can anyone recommend a reverse proxy? I got pound running now but make lighttpds in two guests available through a single external ip address, but there are more often than not lags of a few seconds although the box is totally idle
1152098192 M * doener s/but make/to make/
1152098239 M * daniel_hozac i'm lazy so i'm using apache for that.
1152098253 M * Loki|muh there are squid, which can be used as reverse and apache with mod_proxy
1152098300 M * Loki|muh daniel_hozac: apache? lazy? Imo is squid less configuration effort
1152098323 M * daniel_hozac i was already running Apache and i knew how to use it ;)
1152098552 M * anonc what's the bash syntax for a conditional expression checking whether a value is in a numberic range. ie if $VALUE in [1-7] ; then... 
1152098567 M * anonc numeric even
1152098615 M * Hollow doener: pound is quite good
1152098628 M * Hollow damn
1152098634 M * Hollow i should read sentenced to the end
1152098635 M * Hollow :p
1152098817 M * Hollow hm, i can only set one broadcast address per nid, right?
1152098827 M * mnemoc what about nginx ? (as reverse proxy)
1152098843 M * daniel_hozac Hollow: yes.
1152098864 M * doener Hollow: it seems to be related to the "Client 10" option, but when I lower that too much (i.e. kinda acceptable lags) some IE users cannot access the site anymore
1152098926 M * Hollow well, it's been a while since i last used pound..
1152098938 M * Hollow i have enough IPs meanwhile ;)
1152099432 J * mire ~mire@104-166-222-85.COOL.ADSL.VLine.Verat.NET
1152100489 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1152100492 M * Bertl morning folks!
1152100501 M * anonc he's back!
1152100568 M * Bertl yeah, hopefully I will have a solution for internet connectivity by the end of the week ...
1152100581 M * Bertl (affordable solution that is :)
1152100738 M * matti Bertl: :)
1152100965 Q * _jake- helium.oftc.net xenon.oftc.net
1152100965 Q * daniel_hozac helium.oftc.net xenon.oftc.net
1152100965 Q * Wenix helium.oftc.net xenon.oftc.net
1152100965 Q * bogus helium.oftc.net xenon.oftc.net
1152100965 Q * anonc helium.oftc.net xenon.oftc.net
1152100965 Q * SNy helium.oftc.net xenon.oftc.net
1152100965 Q * locksy helium.oftc.net xenon.oftc.net
1152100965 Q * Radiance helium.oftc.net xenon.oftc.net
1152100965 Q * trippeh helium.oftc.net xenon.oftc.net
1152100965 Q * morrigan helium.oftc.net xenon.oftc.net
1152100965 Q * virtuoso helium.oftc.net xenon.oftc.net
1152100965 Q * abi helium.oftc.net xenon.oftc.net
1152100965 Q * ag- helium.oftc.net xenon.oftc.net
1152100965 Q * cryptronic helium.oftc.net xenon.oftc.net
1152100965 Q * Ben_zZz helium.oftc.net xenon.oftc.net
1152100965 Q * pusling helium.oftc.net xenon.oftc.net
1152101052 J * Ben_zZz B.Lukas@89.106.66.199
1152101052 J * cryptronic crypt@mail.openvcp.org
1152101052 J * abi ~abi@enz.schiach.de
1152101052 J * Radiance cdb4fe4d30@halt.1984world.eu
1152101052 J * locksy ~locksy@mrtg.sisgroup.com.au
1152101052 J * pusling pusling@195.215.29.124
1152101052 J * ag- ag@caladan.roxor.cx
1152101052 J * anonc ~anonc@staffnet.internode.com.au
1152101052 J * bogus ~bogusano@fengor.net
1152101052 J * Wenix ~wenix@81.7.189.11
1152101052 J * SNy 935ff10299@bmx-chemnitz.de
1152101052 J * trippeh atomt@x.vx.no
1152101052 J * daniel_hozac ~daniel@c-2d1472d5.010-230-73746f22.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se
1152101052 J * virtuoso ~s0t0na@shisha.spb.ru
1152101052 J * _jake- psybnc@murlocs.org
1152101052 J * morrigan morrigan@212.16.62.52
1152101424 J * Brio ~Brio@pool-64-222-228-62.port.east.verizon.net
1152101439 M * Brio man, what a day
1152101481 P * Brio 
1152101662 M * Bertl interesting comment :)
1152101684 M * TheSeer hehe
1152101849 Q * kaner Remote host closed the connection
1152101852 J * kaner kaner@strace.org
1152101961 M * Bertl wb kaner!
1152101982 M * matti Eh.
1152102358 Q * schimmi2 Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1152102449 M * anonc cool - i now have ionice support for util-vserver
1152102762 M * daniel_hozac what's keeping the users inside the guest from changing the priority?
1152102782 M * anonc doesn't work from inside the guest
1152102804 M * anonc ioprio_set: Operation not permitted
1152102833 M * daniel_hozac that's only if you specify a class of realtime or idle, AFAICT.
1152102856 M * anonc mmm - yep
1152102860 M * anonc bugger
1152102936 M * harry Bertl: you there?
1152102954 M * Bertl yep
1152102960 M * harry why don't you use <kerneltree>/localversion-vserver ?
1152102971 M * harry just put cs-2.0.2-rc24 in there
1152102982 M * harry and you don't have problems with Makefiles ever again :)
1152102995 M * harry -vs2.0.2-rc24 offcourse
1152103002 M * anonc well - they can do that now regardless, so i suppose adding support to util-vserver is good for when you control the guests yourself 
1152103055 M * Bertl harry: might be something we do in the future, for now I'm fine with clashes in the Makefile, keeps folks from patching without spending a thought :)
1152103070 M * harry Bertl: hmm...
1152103096 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: that assumes people actually read patch's output ;)
1152103101 M * harry my patches use echo "-vs2.0.2-rc24" > localversion-vserver 
1152103113 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: well, at least some do :)
1152103133 M * harry would be nice to know that, if you are planning on doing that in the future, that we have the same "syntax"
1152103140 M * anonc i guess we need a cap for modifying best effort io scheduling
1152103164 M * Bertl anonc: how is that done? (strace wise)
1152103165 M * harry if they read the output, they will notice other problems, if they dont, it won't matter :)
1152103177 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: fs/ioprio.c:sys_ioprio_set
1152103187 M * Bertl ah, k
1152103466 J * pagano ~pagano@131.154.5.20
1152103513 M * Bertl welcome pagano!
1152103521 M * pagano hi guys :)
1152103718 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: did you see the email about the reaper problem? seems the BUG_ON in forget_original_parent is back in the 2.6.17 ports.
1152103845 M * Bertl working on my email right now, but good to know! a port issue or a 'new' problem?
1152104401 M * daniel_hozac old problem resurfacing in the port.
1152104489 M * Bertl okay, glad to hear ... could you prepare a patch? will do a release for 17.3 then ...
1152104835 J * schimmi2 ~sts@aquila.tcs.ifi.lmu.de
1152104951 J * robig ~robig@80.243.33.50
1152104969 M * Bertl wb schimmi2! robig!
1152104970 M * robig hello folks
1152104983 M * robig hi Bertl! :)
1152105084 M * robig du you preffer to use the latest vanilla kernel? (2.6.17.3)
1152105109 M * Bertl over what?
1152105139 M * cehteh M$ windows  :)
1152105152 M * Bertl definitely :)
1152105166 M * cehteh Big Mac?
1152105182 M * robig ok. is there a patch available?
1152105203 M * robig or should I use the one for 2.6.15?
1152105214 M * Bertl ah, here we go, yes, there area patches for 2.6.17.1
1152105239 M * Bertl but I'd suggest to wait a few hours, then there will be one for 2.6.17.3 (with a few? fixes)
1152105268 M * Bertl which then will be definitely preferable over the 2.6.15 version
1152105280 A * waldi fights with git
1152105317 M * robig ok. so ill just wait here. please leave me a qry, when done
1152105329 M * Bertl okay, will do so :)
1152105337 M * robig thanks
1152105343 M * Bertl you're welcome!
1152105448 M * anonc ionice patchers for those interested: http://paste.linux-vserver.org/154
1152105453 M * anonc patches even
1152105570 A * Bertl .o(having studied physics, my first thought is always to correct the spelling :)
1152105763 M * daniel_hozac anonc: your util-linux doesn't have ionice?
1152105811 M * anonc daniel_hozac: sys-apps/util-linux-2.12r-r3 on gentoo doesn't appear to have it
1152105815 M * daniel_hozac anonc: and you ought to patch configure.ac and util-vserver-vars.pathsubst
1152105824 M * daniel_hozac anonc: 2.13 here has it.
1152106643 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: http://daniel.hozac.com/vserver/delta-reaper-fix03.diff
1152106719 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: http://daniel.hozac.com/vserver/delta-cow-feat02.diff i'm still pretty certain there are reference counting issues, but i'm not sure what the right thing to do is.
1152106727 J * Zaki ~Zaki@212.107.127.184
1152106890 M * daniel_hozac i think a dput(old_dentry); dget(*dentry) after cow_break_link would make the most sense.
1152106911 M * Hollow hm, why is the broadcast address not shown in /proc/virtnet/*/info?
1152106961 M * daniel_hozac hmm, good question.
1152106971 M * daniel_hozac it it shown in /proc/self/ninfo.
1152107011 M * Hollow ah..
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1152107415 M * anonc http://www.users.on.net/~anonc/.patches/util-vserver-0.30.210-ionice.patch
1152107486 Q * coocoon Quit: KVIrc 3.2.0 'Realia'
1152107730 M * daniel_hozac anonc: no configure hunk?
1152107785 J * lehkor ~lehkor@ns.sampo.ru
1152107836 M * anonc daniel_hozac: ah - something to actually find ionice...that would be good
1152107845 J * coocoon ~coocoon@p54A05290.dip.t-dialin.net
1152108132 M * Hollow what was the solution for save_ctxinfo(): execv: No such file or directory again?
1152108149 M * daniel_hozac i never can remember. is there a solution?
1152108165 M * Hollow i don't know *g*
1152108178 M * Hollow there are many hints on the ML
1152108188 M * Hollow but it seemed to never do the trick
1152108191 M * Bertl we have three solutions so far:
1152108209 M * Bertl - change the gcc from 3.4.x to 4.x.x or 3.3.x (on most cases)
1152108229 M * Bertl - getting fs permissions (broken barrier) right
1152108241 M * Bertl - remove badly configured security framework
1152108278 M * Hollow which framework?
1152108286 M * Bertl se-linux/grsec/whatever
1152108327 M * Hollow ok, thx.. will try
1152108344 M * anonc daniel_hozac: try #2 http://www.users.on.net/~anonc/.patches/util-vserver-0.30.210-ionice.patch
1152108362 M * Bertl Hollow: np, I still think that the gcc issues have something to do with dietlibc not compiling correctly with certain compilers
1152108379 M * Hollow i hate this dietlibc crap
1152108401 M * Hollow it's broken in so many ways
1152108405 J * lilalinux ~plasma@dslb-084-059-007-140.pools.arcor-ip.net
1152108415 M * Bertl that's why we are trying to fix it every now and then :)
1152108432 M * mnemoc i guess i'll start using uclibc :(
1152108472 M * Bertl the only real reason for diet is the resolver stuff, not sure how uClibc does that
1152108495 M * daniel_hozac and Enrico really really likes diet :)
1152108495 M * Hollow fortunately we won't need that in vserver-utils
1152108508 M * Bertl Hollow: ah, how so?
1152108520 M * Hollow we don't handle nss stuff in guests
1152108557 M * Bertl hmm, means: you don't handle installation and package management at all?
1152108563 M * Hollow indeed
1152108586 M * Bertl well, that's an option too of course, but probably not the best choice, no?
1152108607 M * Hollow you can do package management from inside
1152108608 M * daniel_hozac anonc: looks fine now :)
1152108672 M * anonc daniel_hozac: first configure patch i've done - thank goodness for cut-n-paste.
1152108917 M * anonc i suppose the patch could add the ability to set the priority during vserver build time...not tonight though.
1152108979 M * daniel_hozac that might be a bit overkill IMHO, vserver ... build is pretty limited in what it can set.
1152109055 M * anonc well - the patch also currently has no explanation of how to cinfigure it :)
1152109063 M * anonc configure even _thanks bertl
1152109099 M * daniel_hozac that should be added though :)
1152109309 M * anonc Hollow: i'm happy for the ionice patch to be added to the gentoo util-vserver patchset if you want to. it'll need util-linux-2.13 as a pre-req though (since that is probably when ionice got added)
1152109327 M * anonc and with that i'm off. nite all.
1152109364 M * Hollow anonc: i'll take a look
1152110115 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: okay, so you consider your cow patch not suited for 2.1.x, right?
1152110132 Q * nebuchadnezzar Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1152110164 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: (referring to the ref counting comment)
1152110535 J * pisco ~pampel@p50879F58.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
1152110579 M * Bertl welcome pisco!
1152110643 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: the reason for changing the dentry pointer to a ppointer is the 'assignment' right? this doesn't handle release of the assigned dentry at all, no?
1152110679 M * Bertl anyway, will look into it this evening (I hope)
1152110689 M * Bertl away for now .. back later ..
1152110695 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
1152110992 M * daniel_hozac Bertl_oO: right.
1152111122 N * Ben_zZz Ben_
1152112464 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1152112469 M * Bertl short visit ...
1152112486 M * mnemoc welcome back short-Bertl
1152112495 M * Bertl lol
1152112511 T * Bertl http://linux-vserver.org/ | latest stable 2.01, 1.2.10, 1.2.11-rc1, devel 2.1.0, exp 2.{0.2,1.1}-rc25 | util-vserver-0.30.210 | libvserver-1.0.2 & vserver-utils-1.0.3 | He who asks a question is a fool for a minute; he who doesn't ask is a fool for a lifetime -- share the gained knowledge on the wiki, and we'll forget about the minute ;)
1152112519 M * Bertl robig: ping!
1152112551 M * daniel_hozac changes?
1152112572 M * Bertl the BUG fix and the kernel version
1152112589 M * daniel_hozac ok, on both branches?
1152112594 M * Bertl hopefully 
1152112605 M * daniel_hozac heh.
1152112640 M * Bertl robig: http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/ (last two patches)
1152112663 M * Bertl okay, off again ...
1152112666 M * phedny ciao
1152112668 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
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1152113379 J * stefani ~stefani@tsipoor.banerian.org
1152113406 J * m4z m4z@bastard-operator.from-hell.net
1152113487 Q * Milf Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org
1152114460 N * otaku42 otaku42_away
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1152115403 N * Ben_ Ben_zZz
1152115546 N * Ben_zZz Ben_
1152115694 J * bonbons ~bonbons@83.222.39.166
1152116209 M * robig thanks bertl
1152116526 J * schimmi2 ~sts@port-212-202-73-176.dynamic.qsc.de
1152116868 M * robig hey, I tried to apply the latest patch against 2.6.17-3 vanilla
1152116914 M * robig uh. vergot it ;)
1152116959 Q * lilalinux Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1152117065 M * robig > can't find file to patch at input line 4
1152117116 M * robig I've to apply it from /usr/src/ right?
1152117132 M * doener no, inside the kernel source tree, but with -p1
1152117136 M * doener (as usual)
1152117191 M * robig oh. my mistake :)
1152117216 M * robig can you tell me for what that switch is for?
1152117232 M * robig so I'll remember nexttime.. :)
1152117466 J * lilalinux ~plasma@dslb-084-059-003-102.pools.arcor-ip.net
1152117646 M * daniel_hozac it strips path components.
1152117797 M * robig I'm on configuring the kernel.. should I add CPU Frequency scaling support into a amd64 server?
1152117837 M * phedny if you care about power consumption you'd like that
1152117868 M * robig it runs not at home :)
1152117889 M * phedny if it's hosted in a datacenter you don't want it :)
1152117920 M * phedny by the way, when it's compiled into your kernel, you can 'disable' it by telling the system it should always scale to highest frequency ;)
1152118668 M * doener phedny: well, depends... less power consumption is also nice in a data center, as is less heat
1152118819 M * phedny true
1152119018 M * robig what is i2o ? should I enable that?
1152119982 M * robig what means Disable Legacy Networking Kernel API (NEW) in the kernel config?
1152119998 M * robig (in Linux Vserver section)
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1152123944 N * sars sarnold
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1152129734 N * sladen sladen_uk
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1152130019 J * lilo2 ~0710AAD4@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net
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1152131569 N * Ben_ Ben_zZz
1152131845 J * TheCreator ~net@ip-206-123-202-54.static.fasttrackcomm.net
1152131881 P * TheCreator 
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1152133488 J * Aiken ~james@tooax7-137.dialup.optusnet.com.au
1152133548 J * cdrx ~legoater@cap31-3-82-227-199-249.fbx.proxad.net
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1152136538 J * comfrey ~comfrey@67.170.147.202
1152136546 M * comfrey hey all...
1152136569 M * comfrey i am looking to build a ubuntu dapper vserver for ltsp purposes...
1152136592 M * comfrey i am looking for a hand with the debootstrap args in the vserver build
1152136771 M * comfrey someone suggested using a more recent debootstrap
1152136779 M * comfrey and it apparently is ubuntu aware...
1152136887 Q * complexmind Remote host closed the connection
1152136940 M * coocoon vserver dapper build -m debootstrap -- -d dapper -m ftp.belnet.be/linux/ubuntu/ubuntu/dists/ -- --resolve-deps
1152136941 Q * mire Quit: Leaving
1152136948 M * coocoon comfrey:
1152137226 M * comfrey yo coocoon 
1152137244 M * comfrey i found johns hints, and that is helpful.
1152137272 M * comfrey i am just wondering what --context 42 means
1152137336 M * mnemoc that the xid will be 42
1152137375 M * comfrey xid?
1152137385 M * mnemoc context id
1152137437 M * comfrey ok, interesting.
1152137625 M * comfrey so i am getting "E: No such script: /usr/lib/debootstrap/scripts/dapper"
1152137633 M * comfrey using this command:
1152137645 M * comfrey # vserver ltsp build --force -m debootstrap --hostname ltsp --netdev dummy0 --interface 10.2.3.10/32  -- -d dapper -m http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
1152137677 M * mnemoc go to /usr/lib/debootstrap/scripts/, see what is available, and create your flavor based on them
1152137682 M * mnemoc gn8
1152137898 M * comfrey k, so i coppied breezy to dapper, seems ok so far
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1152138456 J * lilo2 ~0710AAD4@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net
1152139184 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1152139188 M * Bertl evening folks!
1152139252 M * coocoon hello bertl
1152139282 M * derjohn hello Bertl !
1152139459 J * ^KeneK^ ~kht@gvtc01093.skypoint.net
1152139522 M * Bertl welcome ^KeneK^!
1152139531 M * Bertl hey coocoon! derjohn!
1152139550 M * Bertl coocoon: currently playing with a sparc here too :)
1152139571 M * coocoon oh aha
1152139573 M * coocoon cool
1152139575 M * coocoon good for u
1152139589 M * coocoon i have no time to play with qwt this moment
1152139609 M * coocoon i thought u will have a look here but it is easier to have one at home
1152139617 N * sladen_uk sladen
1152139637 M * Bertl coocoon: don't worry, w'll continue with your one too
1152139643 M * coocoon ok
1152139654 M * coocoon i have time and the enterprise too ;-)
1152139665 M * Bertl coocoon: this one is 'just' an ultra one :)
1152139668 M * coocoon when u have time and i can help u know i will be there
1152139672 A * ^KeneK^ waves o/
1152139680 M * coocoon ;-
1152139696 M * Bertl coocoon: yeah, and soccer world cup should be over soon :)
1152139704 M * coocoon yes
1152139712 M * coocoon u r very nice ;-)
1152139723 M * coocoon to have a look at this
1152139752 M * Bertl well, although I'm not very interested in soccer, I'm aware of the events and even the results :)
1152139756 M * coocoon at the next event austria will be there too
1152139820 M * Bertl will try to figure a few things with the local sparc, but I guess we already got half the way on your one too
1152139839 M * Bertl btw, did you get a chance to try to compile a patched kernel?
1152139868 M * coocoon i think so i will make it
1152139876 M * coocoon tomorrow
1152139888 M * coocoon or maybe start tonight hehe
1152139891 M * Bertl okay, great!
1152139941 M * coocoon shall i used the latest patch 
1152139956 M * coocoon stable experimental
1152139971 M * Bertl yeah, would be great to get some feedback, try experimental (devel rc branch)
1152139983 M * Bertl so 2.1.1-rc25 atm
1152139987 M * coocoon ok will start it this morning
1152139992 M * coocoon have seen it
1152139997 P * stefani I'm Parting (the water)
1152141126 Q * dna Quit: Verlassend
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1152141921 J * michal` ~michal@www.rsbac.org
1152142003 M * Bertl wb michal`!
1152142681 M * Bertl okay, guess I'm off for tonight ... cya
1152142691 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
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1152143011 J * romke ~romke@83.16.133.162