1150848913 M * Bertl okay, I don't know why, but I'm really tired today ... so I'm actually off to bed now. have a good one everyone, cya!
1150848929 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
1150848971 M * daniel_hozac good night!
1150849297 J * DarthVader ~Aniken@203.177.212.163
1150850023 M * ray6 oh my god, Bertl's ill?
1150850031 M * ray6 or BST is deadjusted? :)
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1150850250 N * sarnold sars
1150850407 M * derjohn ray6, Bertl_zZ hasd some issues with nap attacks currently :)
1150850515 M * derjohn n8 all ....
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1150853718 J * stefani ~stefani@c-24-19-46-211.hsd1.mn.comcast.net
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1150854900 M * daniel_hozac Bertl_zZ: not quite there yet, but http://daniel.hozac.com/vserver/2.0.2.deltas has delta names or a short description where i couldn't find a delta.
1150854986 M * daniel_hozac 2.0.1.x was just fixes for the rebase on 2.6.15, AFAICT.
1150855021 M * daniel_hozac i'll do 2.1.1 tomorrow...
1150855487 J * daniel_hozac|irssi ~daniel@c-2d1472d5.010-230-73746f22.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se
1150855488 Q * daniel_hozac Read error: Connection reset by peer
1150855500 N * daniel_hozac|irssi daniel_hozac
1150856767 M * stormy http://rafb.net/paste/results/FKQQL268.html
1150856804 M * stormy http://rafb.net/paste/results/I8tIAE56.html
1150856809 M * stormy any ideas?
1150856890 M * daniel_hozac what does your tarball look like?
1150856902 M * daniel_hozac does it have an etc directory? tmp directory?
1150856906 M * stormy yes
1150856910 M * stormy here i'll paste that too
1150856914 M * stormy the one i made
1150856935 M * stormy was based on the stage3 + portage added and the vserver baselayout
1150857003 M * stormy http://rafb.net/paste/results/zDfTcw64.html
1150857087 M * daniel_hozac it seems to be below a vserver directory though.
1150857210 M * stormy hmm
1150857226 M * stormy i just did a new vserver this time using just the stage 3
1150857232 M * stormy the vanilla one
1150857239 M * stormy and it actually made it
1150857244 M * stormy then I tried to start it
1150857255 M * stormy and for grins i tryed to start the custom one i did
1150857259 M * stormy and here's the results
1150857262 M * stormy http://rafb.net/paste/results/E7Qxn419.html
1150857515 M * stormy ok
1150857523 M * stormy now mine is seg faulting as well
1150857526 M * stormy localhost / # vserver alpha.test.1 start
1150857526 M * stormy /usr/lib/util-vserver/functions: line 44: 29346 Segmentation fault      $_LOCKFILE "$1" $tmp $2
1150857526 M * stormy localhost / #
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1150863707 M * stormy still no one?
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1150866611 M * _coocoon_ morning
1150866751 M * Hollow_ morning _coocoon_
1150866765 M * Hollow_ sorry, i went to bed yesterday when the box didn't came up
1150866849 N * Hollow_ Hollow
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1150882496 M * jhaig I've installed vserver on CentOS 4.3 and set up a guest, also with CentOS 4.3.  On the host there is a /etc/shadow file but not on the guest.  Why is this?
1150882514 Q * gerrit Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1150882688 M * Milf Don't know, try pwconv
1150882761 M * jhaig That seems to have fixed it.  Is there something in the way vserver installs a guest that is different from how the standard install works?
1150882793 A * Milf shrugs its shoulders.
1150882802 M * Milf How did you build the guest server?
1150882894 M * jhaig vserver hostname build -m yum --hostname hostname --interface domain=eth0:w.x.y.z --initstyle sysv --context 2 --force -- -d centos43
1150882924 M * Milf Ah so you bootstrapped it, it seems.
1150882945 M * Milf Do I get it correctly that centos 4.3 is a linux distribution?
1150882952 M * jhaig I've just realised that the HowTo I was following says that it should have "--interface domain=eth0:w.x.y.z/24" and I missed the /24 on the end.  What does this do?
1150882974 M * jhaig Yes.  It is a recompiled Redhat 4 Release 3
1150883010 M * Milf The /24 is to generate the netmask. It sais that the first 24 bit denote the network.
1150883112 M * Milf so your netmask would be 255.255.255.0 if that tells you more
1150883137 J * gerrit ~gerrit@67.160.146.170
1150883155 M * Milf Ok, the thing about /etc/shadow not being there is that you used a bootstrap method to build your server. That installs a minimized system.
1150883186 M * Milf Only time I ever treid that, I reconfigured the resulting server, shut it down and used that image as as template to copy new vservers from.
1150883224 M * jhaig I'm following the HowTo for CentOS, so I assumed that this was the 'proper' was.  What other methods other than bootstrap?
1150883278 M * Milf Dunno. I go with creating a template, whethter it's from bootstrap, out of a tar archive and using that.
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1150883309 M * Milf It could be that you can configure the bootstrap mechanism to incoporate these changes.
1150883462 M * jhaig So you have a single set up that you clone and reconfigure?  Is that correct?
1150883471 M * Milf Yep.
1150883514 M * jhaig OK, thanks.
1150883891 M * _coocoon_ und dollow wie schauts
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1150887063 M * Milf Who is dollow?
1150887211 J * DreamerC ~dreamerc@59.112.10.125
1150887351 M * _coocoon_ sorry i meant hollow
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1150890673 M * schimmi I want to have shared quota on some vservers which use nis to sync usernames (so uids match). all of them use the same partition (mapped with bind mounts). I noticed that the quota is in effect, but the quota program does not work. is there a way to get it working without using those virtual devices as in the FAQs?
1150890795 M * cskarby hmm .. I think you will need either the virtual devices or real devices
1150890872 J * f_ ~f_@83.215.237.1
1150890882 M * cskarby but have in mind that any user having access to the real device have possibilites to read and write to the device, so if you don't trust the root user of the vserver, then you should probably go for the virtual device
1150890921 M * schimmi ok, ic
1150891380 M * schimmi hmm, wondering where I find more info about those vroots
1150891406 Q * anonc helium.oftc.net xenon.oftc.net
1150891406 Q * _Kara helium.oftc.net xenon.oftc.net
1150891406 Q * starlein helium.oftc.net xenon.oftc.net
1150891406 Q * jake- helium.oftc.net xenon.oftc.net
1150891406 Q * glen helium.oftc.net xenon.oftc.net
1150891406 Q * ag- helium.oftc.net xenon.oftc.net
1150891406 Q * morrigan helium.oftc.net xenon.oftc.net
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1150891480 J * glen ~glen@elves.delfi.ee
1150891480 J * ag- ag@caladan.roxor.cx
1150891480 J * starlein star@fo0bar.de
1150891480 J * _Kara ~Kashira@wan14.ihredomainadresse.de
1150891480 J * anonc ~anonc@staffnet.internode.com.au
1150891491 J * _jake- psybnc@murlocs.org
1150891521 J * nammie ~nam@70.78.64.62
1150891711 M * cskarby schimmi: seen http://linux-vserver.org/Standard+non-shared+quota ?
1150891753 J * namulator ~nam@70.78.64.62
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1150891951 M * schimmi so the vroot device is not really used for file storage, just for the quota??
1150892045 J * Nam ~nam@70.78.64.62
1150892097 M * cskarby schimmi: if I have understood things right; yes, vroot-devices are for quota only - not for storage
1150892134 M * cskarby but they are connected to real devices so that you can use quota tools for a partition that is mounted inside the vserver context.
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1150892180 M * schimmi ok, that's exactly what I want then
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1150892489 M * kir does that mean you are limited to 8 VPSs that can have quota enabled inside?
1150892639 M * cskarby kir: well, not if they share one or more partitions with quota
1150892699 M * cskarby however, I am not sure if the limit of 8 is still true or if the docs are outdated
1150892739 M * kir cskarby, still you need a separate partition for VPS in order to have an in-VPS quota, or am I missing something?
1150892804 M * kir cskarby, or you can use up to 8 different partitions, and host several guests on a partition, with all guests with working quota? 
1150892837 Q * Nam Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1150892850 M * cskarby just to make sure I do not misunderstand you, with VPS you mean a vserver such as one of the entries listed with vserver-stat?
1150892947 J * f_ ~f_@83-215-237-1.seek.stat.salzburg-online.at
1150892983 M * cskarby I guess for most cases you would like a seperate partition for each vserver, so in these cases it would be limited by the number of vroot devices you have availiable
1150893065 M * cskarby that is, there is a limit to how many vservers that can use quota utils to modify the quotas from within the quota context and at the same time be restricted from raw access to the device (for instance if you'd like to make sure the vserver root user should not be able to reformat the partition)
1150893135 M * cskarby sorry; within the vserver context
1150893503 J * namulator ~nam@70.78.64.62
1150893542 M * doener_ the number of vroot devices is configurable (module parameter). I guess the upper limit is 255 or 256, that should probably be sufficient for most cases...
1150893610 J * Nam ~nam@70.78.64.62
1150893611 M * doener_ alternatively, you could use a single partition with disk limits in action and request/sponsor a port of shared-disk quota to the 2.x vserver series ;)
1150893640 M * cskarby ;)
1150893645 M * schimmi hmm, doesn't want to work. I have turned off quota in the host. vrsetup'ed the /dev/hda9 partion (it's where the vservers _and_ the home inside the vservers are) to /dev/vroot1, copied the device as /dev/hda1 into the vserver, added it to the mtab in /etc/verservs/, restarted the vserver, quotachecked. now the aquota.* files exist, but the quota values do not change if I create files for a user. did I forget anything?
1150893672 M * schimmi sorry, /dev/hdv1 of course
1150893761 M * schimmi capabilities are also set
1150893783 M * schimmi quotaon /dev/hdv1 in the vserver complains that he cannot use /aquota.group and .user
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1150895194 M * w00t /server -m cless-network.org -j #help
1150895194 M * w00t /server -m cless-network.org -j #help
1150895195 M * w00t /server -m cless-network.org -j #help
1150895195 M * w00t /server -m cless-network.org -j #help
1150895195 Q * w00t Killed (FloodServ ((FloodServ) Warning, you have triggered a network protection. Stop flooding!))
1150895200 J * w00t ~AAAA@CBL217-132-238-171.bb.netvision.net.il
1150895208 P * w00t 
1150895440 M * schimmi when using vroots for quota, is it important that the root of the partition I pass to vrsetup is mounted as / in the vserver?
1150895585 M * cskarby well, I would guess that you need the mount point to get the control files
1150895623 M * cskarby and that mtab is correct with respect to where the mount point is and that it has the necessary flags so that quota tools will find it, but I might be wrong
1150895751 M * schimmi I think the quota tools find the files (strace reports quotaon opens them correctly), but then it says permission denied
1150895774 M * schimmi so I guess the kernel part does not work here
1150895784 J * AndrewLee ~andrew@tnlug.linux.org.tw
1150895824 M * cskarby schimmi; sorry, I don't know
1150895926 M * _coocoon_ schimmi: what shows dmesg -s 100000 | grep vroot
1150896068 M * schimmi absolutely nothing
1150896093 M * schimmi have called vrsetup again and restarted the vserver
1150896114 M * _coocoon_ hm if the module is loaded default vroot devices are 8
1150896142 M * _coocoon_ schimmi: u can speak german
1150896146 M * schimmi yes
1150896149 M * _coocoon_ http://www.debianhowto.de/doku.php/de:howtos:sarge:linux-vserver
1150896186 M * _coocoon_ is for debian but no matter 
1150896307 M * _coocoon_ i think if there are no devices shown the module isn't loaded the devices also must apear under /dev folder at the host
1150896861 M * daniel_hozac schimmi: did you disable quotas on the host? you shouldn't do that.
1150896882 M * schimmi oh, I did
1150896905 M * daniel_hozac the actual mount needs to have the quota options.
1150896924 M * schimmi ok, it has
1150896931 M * schimmi but it's not enabled with quotaon
1150897100 M * daniel_hozac so /proc/mounts shows the appropriate options for your filesystem?
1150897384 M * schimmi now it works. I cannot call quotaon inside of the vserver
1150897398 M * schimmi but the quota tool works and the values are correct when I enable it from the host
1150897460 M * schimmi can I use the same vroot for several vservers?
1150897760 M * daniel_hozac if you use the same device for them, i don't see why not.
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1150898466 M * schimmi ok, work great now
1150898469 M * schimmi thanks!!!
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1150901371 M * Piet hi.
1150901630 M * daniel_hozac hello
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1150915115 M * shuri hello all
1150915136 N * s0undt3c1 s0undt3ch
1150915161 M * shuri anybody can help me with the Standard non-shared quota setup
1150915264 M * daniel_hozac what's the problem?
1150915522 M * shuri hi daniel_hozac 
1150915531 M * shuri wel
1150915544 M * shuri i dont have /dev/vroot/ dir
1150915555 M * shuri lsmod show
1150915555 M * daniel_hozac do you use devfs?
1150915559 M * shuri Module                  Size  Used by
1150915559 M * shuri vroot                   4872  0
1150915613 M * shuri i dont think so
1150915620 M * daniel_hozac then that's not really expected.
1150915662 M * shuri ok
1150915677 M * shuri so if i want to enable quota on /dev/sdb1
1150915704 M * shuri i use the vrsetup tool?
1150915707 M * daniel_hozac you'll have to create /dev/vroot0-7 or however many devices you need.
1150915708 M * daniel_hozac yeah.
1150915730 M * shuri vrsetup /dev/vroot/0 /dev/sdb1  right?
1150915759 M * shuri or vrsetup /dev/vroot0 /dev/sdb1  right?
1150915766 M * daniel_hozac assuming you have created the device first.
1150915828 M * shuri but what does it make a difference between /dev/vroot0 and /dev/vroot/0
1150915868 M * daniel_hozac i guess that's really up to you if you don't have anything creating them automatically.
1150915900 M * daniel_hozac the first is the typical /dev and udev style, while the latter is more devfs.
1150916109 M * shuri ok
1150916270 M * shuri so i need to create /dev/vroot dir
1150916307 M * shuri i dont think debian stable use udev 
1150916396 M * shuri any particular permission on de /dev/vroot dir?
1150916774 M * shuri ok device created
1150916795 M * shuri brw-r--r--  1 root root 4, 0 2006-06-21 15:02 /dev/vroot/0
1150916812 M * shuri mknod /dev/vroot/0 b 4 0
1150916962 J * _coocoon_ ~coocoon@84.160.88.243
1150917364 M * daniel_hozac looks fine.
1150917504 M * shuri ok last thing
1150917511 M * shuri for the vrsetup
1150917525 M * shuri vrsetup /dev/vroot/0 /dev/sdb1 
1150917532 M * daniel_hozac right.
1150917536 M * shuri ok thx
1150919149 M * shuri quotacheck: Scanning /dev/hdv1 [/] done
1150919158 M * shuri thx you daniel_hozac !
1150919264 M * doener hm, what could cause a bind mount to be busy, except open files?
1150919386 M * doener nvm...
1150919522 N * sarnold sars
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1150919637 M * bonbons doener: some other fs mounted on it
1150919791 M * doener exactly ;)
1150919811 M * doener actually, I even misread the error message
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