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1150763209 J * DarthVader ~Aniken@203.177.212.163
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1150764668 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1150764676 M * Bertl back now ..
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1150765227 N * sarnold sars
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1150766184 M * Aiken Bertl vxW: !!! limit: d08b4048[LOCKS,10] = -3 on exit
1150766203 M * Aiken 2.6.17-vs2.1.1-rc23.2 on x86
1150766244 M * Aiken was getting dodgy LOCKS numbers with 2.6.17-rc5.-vs2.1.1-rc21.3 on alpha but that had been fixed
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1150767260 J * sars ~sarnold@cerebus.immunix.com
1150767395 M * Bertl Aiken: should be fixed with -rc24
1150767429 M * Bertl Aiken: but tx for reporting!
1150767588 M * Aiken getting it now
1150767609 M * Aiken either I missed it yesterday or downloaded rc23.2 just before 24 was released
1150767644 M * Aiken apart from that it works, both guest in this machine have been fine
1150767677 M * Aiken only thing I can complain about is that lovely cdrom read ahead bug in mainline that never gets fixed
1150767785 M * Bertl no, rc24 was released today
1150767810 M * Bertl Aiken: ah, cdrom readahead? let's hear
1150767851 M * Aiken today for who? :)  I was trying to work out when rc24 was released it is 11:44am 20/6/6 here
1150767858 M * Aiken so for me rc24 has yesterdays date
1150767925 M * Aiken burn an iso, try reading the iso back and linux tries reading past the end of the iso filling the system log with many mnay bad sector errors
1150767969 M * Bertl ad date: hmm, I doubt that ... sec
1150768042 M * Bertl (it was release less than 5 hours ago :)
1150768048 M * Bertl +d
1150768051 M * Aiken the date on rc24 is 19/6/6 15:56 which for me is yesterday afternoon :)
1150768073 M * Bertl yeah, but check the timezone
1150768085 M * Aiken I know
1150768111 M * Bertl maybe I should change the server to UTC or so ...
1150768141 M * Aiken I am just not doing well with timezone conversions today
1150768316 M * Bertl so, just changed the TZ to UTC there, probably makes more sense
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1150770228 J * Aiken_ ~james@tooax7-160.dialup.optusnet.com.au
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1150770584 M * Aiken_ that worked, finding LOCKS at zero instead of -2 now in a running guest
1150770631 M * Bertl excellent!
1150771671 Q * Hunger charon.oftc.net venus.oftc.net
1150771744 Q * Aiken_ charon.oftc.net quasar.oftc.net
1150771744 Q * cmatei charon.oftc.net quasar.oftc.net
1150771744 Q * shuri charon.oftc.net quasar.oftc.net
1150771744 Q * nebuchadnezzar charon.oftc.net quasar.oftc.net
1150771744 Q * mnemoc charon.oftc.net quasar.oftc.net
1150771744 Q * s0undt3ch charon.oftc.net quasar.oftc.net
1150771744 Q * lilo2 charon.oftc.net quasar.oftc.net
1150771744 Q * Snow-Man charon.oftc.net quasar.oftc.net
1150771744 Q * derjohn charon.oftc.net quasar.oftc.net
1150771744 Q * Vudu charon.oftc.net quasar.oftc.net
1150771744 Q * Adrinael charon.oftc.net quasar.oftc.net
1150771766 J * cemil ~cemil@defiant.wavecon.de
1150771786 J * BenBen ~benny@defiant.wavecon.de
1150771808 J * Aiken_ ~james@tooax7-160.dialup.optusnet.com.au
1150771808 J * cmatei ~cmatei@home-307461.b.astral.ro
1150771808 J * shuri ~shuri@64.235.209.226
1150771808 J * nebuchadnezzar ~nebu@zion.asgardr.info
1150771808 J * mnemoc ~amery@kilo105.server4you.de
1150771808 J * s0undt3ch ~s0undt3ch@bl7-244-180.dsl.telepac.pt
1150771808 J * lilo2 ~0710AAD4@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net
1150771808 J * Snow-Man ~sfrost@kenobi.snowman.net
1150771808 J * derjohn ~derjohn@80.69.37.19
1150771808 J * Vudu ~vudumen@perverz.hu
1150771808 J * Adrinael adrinael@hoasb-ff09dd00-79.dhcp.inet.fi
1150771830 J * Hunger Hunger.hu@Hunger.hu
1150772006 J * f_ ~f_@83-215-237-1.seek.stat.salzburg-online.at
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1150776924 M * Bertl okay, I'm off to bed now .. have a nice one everyone! cya!
1150776929 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
1150777168 J * stefan|afk ~stefan@p54830A63.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
1150777210 Q * stefan|afk Quit: :-
1150778978 J * gerrit ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1150780188 Q * meandtheshell Quit: bye bye ... 
1150780630 J * _coocoon_ ~coocoon@p54A0586E.dip.t-dialin.net
1150780635 M * _coocoon_ morning
1150780647 M * Hollow morning
1150780953 J * Viper0482 ~Viper0482@p54976D1E.dip.t-dialin.net
1150781240 J * Brio ~Brio@pool-70-16-99-242.port.east.verizon.net
1150781340 M * Brio hi
1150781463 M * samuel_ hi Brio 
1150781476 M * Brio so, whats going on here?
1150781487 M * samuel_ shit man, can't get racoon-tool work
1150781556 M * Brio excuse me?
1150781606 M * Brio uhm...hello?
1150781612 M * samuel_ .
1150781673 M * Brio sorry
1150781739 M * Brio so, you Know Mario?
1150781801 M * Brio ugh!
1150781803 P * Brio 
1150782447 J * f_ ~f_@83-215-237-1.seek.stat.salzburg-online.at
1150783749 J * meandtheshell ~markus@85-125-231-171.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at
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1150784561 J * SNy c37e4bcf2a@bmx-chemnitz.de
1150784629 J * Milf ~Miranda@ipsio123.ipsi.fraunhofer.de
1150784674 M * Milf I wish you all an interesting morning
1150784926 M * cehteh http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/gadgets/usb-air-conditioned-shirt-181614.php
1150784937 M * cehteh moin :)
1150785023 M * _coocoon_ cool
1150785061 J * dna ~naucki@dialer-173-168.kielnet.net
1150785303 J * gerrit ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
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1150786923 J * ||Cobra|| ~cob@pc-csa01.science.uva.nl
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1150787521 J * stormy ~stormy@c-24-20-36-14.hsd1.mn.comcast.net
1150787812 M * stormy Hi, I may be asking this in the wrong place, however: I have alpha running gentoo linux, so far i've compiled my own kernel and built the user land tools without a hitch.  And currently have the new kernel booted.  I have done this in gentoo linux trying to follow the x86 howto. currently the howto tells me to download a stage3 vserver image for my arch.  It doesn't exist, so my question is how do i build an enviroment from scratch so I
1150787812 M * stormy  can run vservers on thsi thing?
1150787896 M * _coocoon_ stormy: ftp://ftp.belnet.be/mirror/rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo/experimental/x86/vserver/
1150787908 M * stormy it's an alpha
1150787913 M * stormy it doesn't run x86
1150787932 M * _coocoon_ stormy: ah ok sorry
1150787933 M * Hollow stormy: you can use a normal alpha stage and convert it
1150787940 M * stormy how?
1150787944 M * matti Hollow: ;-)
1150787973 M * matti Hollow: Works fine on uclibc - more information later.
1150788014 M * stormy Hollow how do I do it please.  
1150788014 M * stormy or where can i read about it
1150788017 M * Hollow stormy: unpack the alpha stage to /vservers/<name> chroot into it like you do on normal stage3 installs, and follow the blue box on top of http://linux-vserver.org/GentooGuestHowto
1150788049 M * stormy hmmm
1150788051 M * stormy i'll try it
1150788192 M * Hollow matti: some vserver stuff is already in baselayout trunk btw ;)
1150788242 M * matti Hollow: Nice.
1150788245 M * matti Hollow: BTW...
1150788262 M * matti Hollow: Now, I only wait for brand new an shiny grsecurity from spender (he'll release it soon... probably... Well, I hope so.).
1150788284 M * matti Hollow: I want to merge vs2.01 and latest grsecurity into 2.6.17 :)
1150788301 M * Hollow better wait for 2.0.2
1150788312 M * matti Hollow: Will be stable soon?
1150788316 M * Hollow guess so
1150788360 M * _coocoon_ which features will be implemented in 2.0.2
1150788411 M * matti Hollow: Hm... So, I'll wait then :)
1150788431 J * doener ~doener@i5387DD0F.versanet.de
1150788499 M * matti Hollow: BTW, I asked spender about splited patch - that will help a lot, because current almost 800 KB one is a pita when you want to fix something :-)
1150788573 M * Hollow well, i'm not that interested in grsec, but great! ;)
1150788668 M * matti Hollow: I am also not a true believer, but better than vanilla itself ;-
1150788672 M * matti ;-)
1150788716 M * matti LOL, my cat wants a hug and walks towards my keyboard... LOL ;p
1150788809 M * Milf Where in menuconfig do I find the VServer Kernel defines?
1150788834 M * matti Milf: Somewhere ;p
1150788839 M * matti [ Joke, joke... ;p ]
1150788847 M * Milf Hmmm, just at the root under 'Linux VServer' :)
1150788856 A * Milf was too lazy to look it seems.
1150788870 M * matti Oh.
1150788886 M * matti You should be shame on yourself ;-p
1150788893 M * matti Want some coffee?
1150788895 M * matti :>
1150788916 M * Milf Well I'll just add that to the long list of things I should be ashamed of. 
1150788928 M * Milf Someday I'll pour gasoline onto it and flick a match.
1150788940 M * matti Hm, nice idea.
1150788942 M * Milf Yeah, Coffee, what a fine Idea.
1150788973 M * doener coffee? who said coffee? here!
1150788991 M * matti Me me!
1150788992 M * matti Pick me!
1150788994 M * matti ;p
1150789020 M * doener 14 hours of sleep and I'm still tired...
1150789043 A * matti hands a cup of coffee to Milf and doener.
1150789044 M * matti :0
1150789052 M * doener thanks :)
1150789057 M * matti Enjoy :)
1150789062 M * doener :]
1150789151 M * matti e should organize some user meeting, and then probably I'll be able to hands a real coffee to the uses in need :-)
1150789166 M * matti s/e/We/
1150789214 M * daniel_hozac like http://linux-vserver.org/Work+Retreat ?
1150789232 M * matti Hmm, let me check.
1150789247 M * matti Hehehe.
1150789254 M * matti Yeah, soemthing like that :)
1150789282 M * matti :>
1150789552 N * otaku42_away otaku42
1150789718 J * coocoon3 ~coocoon@p54A0586E.dip.t-dialin.net
1150789729 P * coocoon3 
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1150790359 J * f_ ~f_@83-215-237-1.seek.stat.salzburg-online.at
1150790621 Q * Piet Quit: :tiuQ
1150790740 M * stormy  * no profile exists for arch alpha
1150790745 M * stormy how do i create a profile?
1150792552 J * cskarby ~cs@195.1.31.69
1150793075 J * milesw ~chatzilla@pc091038.aimes.liv.ac.uk
1150793367 Q * milesw Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.73 [Firefox 1.5.0.4/2006050817]
1150793622 J * milesw ~chatzilla@pc091038.aimes.liv.ac.uk
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1150794086 M * Hollow matti: baselayout-1.13.0_alpha1 will work with vserver
1150794124 M * matti ;-)
1150794129 M * Hollow :)
1150794274 M * matti Hollow: Do you know Xen a bit?
1150794285 M * Hollow no
1150794286 M * Hollow :)
1150794290 M * waldi matti: why?
1150794334 M * sid3windr traitor! ;)
1150794336 M * matti waldi: Well, can Xen utilize some memory hard/soft limits between domains?
1150794341 M * matti sid3windr: He he.
1150794353 M * matti sid3windr: Not a all. I try run vserver in domainU.
1150794353 M * matti ;]
1150794362 M * waldi it only knows a hard limit of usable memory
1150794391 M * matti waldi: I mean, I must pass the memory parameter when I boot up a domainU.
1150794401 M * waldi no
1150794405 M * matti No?
1150794416 M * waldi it is configured in the domain config and enforced by the hypervisor
1150794428 M * matti Yes.
1150794456 M * matti I mean... for example.
1150794468 M * matti memory = 128
1150794476 M * matti maxmem = 256
1150794558 M * matti And if we assume, that other domains do not eat whole memory, will this allocate some extra from that unused memory for domain with such two options in config?
1150794572 M * waldi it have to request it
1150794615 M * doener AFAIK you have no "automatic" sharing, but you can change the memory size on the fly (manually) with recent Xen versions.
1150794627 M * doener at least a Xen user told me that at LinuxTag ;)
1150794645 M * matti I mean - vserver guests shares same memory dynamically... can Xen do the same with all U domains?
1150794654 M * waldi no
1150794664 M * waldi you don't have the necessary informations
1150794678 M * matti Hmm... That I was worried about.
1150794689 M * matti I need a reeeeallly huge amount of ram then ;p
1150794709 M * waldi you can write some piece of software which records memory usage in the domains and act on this
1150794775 M * matti I see.
1150795136 J * insomnia1 ~insomniac@slackware.it
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1150796903 J * yarihm ~yarihm@whitehead2.nine.ch
1150797367 M * Hollow matti: http://overlays.gentoo.org/proj/vps/changeset/4
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1150799701 J * YaGMuR_PReNSi ~E-Klavye@85.97.70.5
1150799704 M * YaGMuR_PReNSi ses
1150799713 M * YaGMuR_PReNSi Bertl!herbert@212.16.62.52
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1150806365 M * Milf Can anyone tell me how to manipulate compile time option VSERVER_REMAP_SADDR? Bertl said it would be in 2.0.2-rc23.1. I tried 23.2 but it wasn't there
1150807859 J * kir ~kir@swsoft-mipt-nat.sw.ru
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1150810145 M * daniel_hozac Milf: you have to disable LEGACY for it to show.
1150810191 M * Milf Aha. What else will happen if I disable legacy?
1150810263 M * yarihm it's embarassing that i forgot it again, but how do I add a vserver to the default-type? my init script says it starts the vservers of type default, but it seems there are none in there :)
1150810276 M * daniel_hozac vshelper will stop working. testme won't work anymore (or maybe that was fixed)?
1150810281 M * yarihm i already had that, i think one must touch a file or something the like
1150810309 M * daniel_hozac echo default > /etc/vservers/.../apps/init/mark
1150810319 M * yarihm thanks
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1150812170 J * cdrx ~legoater@cap31-3-82-227-199-249.fbx.proxad.net
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1150813120 J * h01ger ~holger@socket.layer-acht.org
1150813425 J * cryo ~say@psoft.user.matrix.farlep.net
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1150814294 M * Milf What does vshelper do anyway?
1150814541 Q * f_ Quit: This computer has gone to sleep
1150814541 M * mnemoc help :)
1150814753 J * f_ ~f_@83-215-237-1.seek.stat.salzburg-online.at
1150815362 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1150815366 M * Bertl morning folks!
1150815384 M * _coocoon_ hello bertl
1150815386 M * Bertl Milf: mainly rebooting the guest (on behalf of guest root)
1150815390 M * Bertl hey _coocoon_!
1150815409 M * doener hi Bertl 
1150815620 M * Milf Ok, rebooting is not a feature I ever used. I'll try it out tomorrow.
1150815650 M * Milf Did you say to turn VSERVER_REMAP_SADDR on or off for my test with that localhost-broken app?
1150815777 J * doener_ ~doener@i5387EB3E.versanet.de
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1150815807 M * daniel_hozac Milf: on is the only way it'll make a difference.
1150815845 M * Milf And what will that do?
1150815883 M * daniel_hozac it will rewrite the source address from 127.0.0.1 to the guest's first IP address in addition to the destination address
1150815901 M * Milf I thought that was standard behavior?
1150815920 M * daniel_hozac not the source address.
1150815927 M * daniel_hozac the destination address is.
1150815932 M * Milf Ah, I see.
1150815948 M * Milf Ok, I'll try that tomorrow. For today it's too fscking hot in this room :(
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1150817567 M * Bertl okay, off to dinner ...
1150817572 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
1150818407 J * stefani ~stefani@tsipoor.banerian.org
1150818624 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1150818627 M * Bertl welcome stefani!
1150818658 M * stefani Bertl:    hello.    i've been having some weird issues.   but i do not know if it is hardware, kernel, or what.   
1150818659 N * otaku42 otaku42_away
1150818941 M * Bertl stefani: let's hear!
1150819005 M * stefani i was seeing weird memory problems, so i set rlimits on most sites.   one site's VSZ kept expanding to near 1 GB 
1150819021 M * Bertl which is not that much
1150819026 M * stefani with rlimit  i can stop that, but the site fails too often now. 
1150819054 M * Bertl how much ram+swap does the whole system have?
1150819073 M * stefani  1 GB may not seem like much , but it was taking over,  machine started to swap violently, and then disk fail.
1150819085 M * stefani i added memory  so now it has 3 GB.
1150819141 M * Bertl and how much swap space?
1150819177 M * stefani right now, with one disk out due to fail, the remaining disk as only 1/2 GB.    
1150819186 M * stefani when the other disk is there, it has more swap. 
1150819191 M * Bertl that's not really much ...
1150819219 M * stefani i'm almost afraid to have much swap, as the disks kept failing 
1150819224 M * Bertl but I would assign at least 2GB AS to each guest
1150819239 M * Bertl failing disks are a sign of hardware issues
1150819329 M * stefani ok. 
1150819342 M * stefani agreed..  brand new disks failing is not good. 
1150819381 J * bonbons ~bonbons@83.222.39.166
1150819383 M * Bertl maybe overheating? what kind of disks are those?
1150819395 M * Bertl what kind of errors/failure do you observe?
1150819400 M * Bertl welcome bonbons!
1150819410 M * bonbons Hi Bertl!
1150819882 J * aphetadus ~joaopaulo@201-13-62-114.dsl.telesp.net.br
1150819913 P * aphetadus 
1150820311 M * cehteh give the disks proper cooling and avoid vibrations from fans .. i have bad expeiences with that
1150820564 M * stefani cehteh:  1U server, rackmount.  first year of service, no problems.  this second year, multiple failures. 
1150820630 M * cehteh stefani: there is a hddtemp daemon for linux which log's the temperatures and a smartmon suite which can also be configured as daemon checking the disks regulary and log the results/send mail if one has problems
1150820686 J * enet ~jpduyx@adsl-228-22.dsl.uva.nl
1150820708 M * cehteh and next i suggest to run a readonly badblock scan over all disks regulary (weekly or monthly) with reading every block the discs firmware can error correct and/or reassign defect blocks early before they become a serious problem
1150820762 M * enet hello somebody knows something about util-vserver (newvserver) on debian sid ? i get warning messages about find
1150820763 M * cehteh that can be done even while the disks are mounted only io-bandwidth goes down 
1150820865 M * enet find: warning: you have specified the -mindepth option after a non-option argument -name, but options are not positional (-mindepth affects tests specified before it as well as those specified after it).  Please specify options before other arguments.
1150820906 M * cehteh if you have the hardware in front of you and you want to reinstall anyways then you can scrub the disks with a badblocks run in write mode that forces the firmware to replace any bad blocks .. after that the chances are good that the disk has no errors .. but you need to be very carful if the disk gets more errors by time you wont notice it this way unless you really do careful checks
1150820943 M * stefani cehteh:   the box is in a colo facility.  i try not to have to be there too often. ;)
1150820943 M * cehteh enet: that looks like a wrong commandline not a vserver problem
1150821015 M * cehteh stefani: at readonly scan wont do too much harm unless the disk is really failing and accumulates errors because of dust in the case or such .. in that case you should make a backup as urgent as possible
1150821052 M * cehteh anyways ... having a backup is something i prerequisite
1150821073 M * enet cehteh: i did:         newvserver --hostname edubuntu --domain enet.nl --ip 192.168.1.55
1150821101 M * cehteh mhm .. well maybe there is a bug in the script then
1150821140 M * enet mmmm
1150821150 M * enet and i am  not a hero in scripts ...
1150821164 M * Bertl enet: newvserver is not part of util-vserver
1150821220 M * Bertl enet: make sure to have the latest version and check out: http://linux-vserver.org/alpha+util-vserver
1150821246 M * Bertl there you find a few examples to build guests, also always assign a context id, as dynamic contexts are deprecated
1150821272 M * Bertl okay, have to leave now .. back later this evening
1150821278 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
1150821345 M * enet Bertl: you are right, it was in the debian sid package : vserver-debiantools
1150821394 M * daniel_hozac doesn't the Debian util-vserver package conflict with that?
1150821432 J * Viper0482 ~Viper0482@p54976D1E.dip.t-dialin.net
1150821608 M * enet daniel_hozac: according to aptitude is vserver-debiantools depending on util-vserver 
1150821633 M * enet maybe something went wrong with apt-pinning, it is a sarge machine wit as few packeges as possible from sid
1150821829 M * enet maybe i have a wrong version of newvserver or maybe sid has installed a new version of find ?
1150822024 M * cehteh i wont expect incompatible changes in the find syntax
1150822048 M * cehteh its quite likely that some script is broken
1150822186 M * enet i am trying to uninstall and install again
1150822232 J * Hollow_ ~hollow@cl-52.muc-02.de.sixxs.net
1150822422 M * cehteh i dont think that will help :)
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1150822596 M * enet cehteh: you are right :)
1150822665 M * enet after the warning from find i get the following error: vserver-topdirectory '/etc/vservers/.defaults/vdirbase/edubuntu/etc' and/or configuration at '/etc/vservers/edubuntu' exist already; please try to use '--force', or remove them manually.
1150822686 M * enet removing those directories manually and trying again keeps giving me the same error
1150822855 M * cehteh obliviously
1150822908 M * cehteh check the debian bugtracking system if there is already such a bug filed, if not google if you find any hints ... still no success either try to fix it and send a patch or just report it
1150822926 M * cehteh .. or ask someone to fix it for you ;)
1150822940 M * enet i purged both util-vserver and vserver-debianutils and after that i did apt-get install -t sid vserver-debiantools and now i seem to be able to make a new vserver again
1150823014 M * cehteh mhm
1150823017 M * enet maybe something went wrong with my system because i tried to change the symbolic link to my own vservers directory at /home/vservers now it is using /var/lib/vservers again
1150823039 M * daniel_hozac you really shouldn't be using vserver-debiantools.
1150823046 M * daniel_hozac like, at all.
1150823047 M * cehteh yeah .. i are likely better off with --bind link
1150823099 M * cehteh err mount
1150823123 M * enet daniel_hozac i don't know what is in vserver-debiantools but i guess it is not a mature thing yet ?
1150823149 M * daniel_hozac it's ancient scripts.
1150823181 M * enet why is it still in sid than ?
1150823235 M * daniel_hozac i don't know.
1150823240 M * enet i'll look into it at the debian website, thanks
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1150823407 M * enet thanx daniel_hozac, util-vserver  (0.30.210-10) is that good enough ?
1150823481 M * daniel_hozac should be.
1150823597 M * enet i hoped so because it had had a promotion to debian testing, thnx i learnd i shouldn't use vserver-debiantools and i shouldn be carefull if i mess with changing symbolic links of the location of my vservers 
1150823897 M * enet and i am  my new edubuntu vserver :)
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1150825010 N * sars sarnold
1150825410 M * stefani cehteh:   so it appears as though hddtemp does not support the disk model i have  :(
1150825534 M * cehteh none at all or just not in the database?
1150825548 M * cehteh some disks have no temperature sensor at all
1150825598 M * cehteh some have but hddtemp doesnt know how to fetch the data, and its scale (celsius farenheit or whatever) .. thats easy to fix
1150825656 M * cehteh well if the server is oonly leased and not yours and sits at a colo you cant do much about the temperature either besides seeing them sweat there
1150825896 M * stefani "known drive, but it does not have a temp. sensor"
1150825917 M * stefani leased? no way 
1150825947 J * dna ~naucki@dialer-167-166.kielnet.net
1150826269 M * mnemoc Bertl_oO: hi, have you managed to link reiserfsprogs against diet?
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1150830375 J * x ~Angel@Cable-82-216.topallnet.ro
1150830377 M * x heya
1150830386 M * x Bertl_oO online?
1150830435 N * x angel
1150830724 M * angel i wanna make one kernel 2.4.32 with grsec and vs
1150830726 M * angel can i?
1150830925 M * angel someone online?
1150830935 J * dna_ ~naucki@dialer-141-255.kielnet.net
1150831013 M * angel what source can i use for 2.4.32 kernel ?
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1150831569 J * dfer ~tre@83.110.124.124
1150831573 M * dfer what version of vserver to use for 2.4.32 kernel? debian
1150831611 M * angel yes
1150831621 M * angel ah :)
1150831629 M * angel i have some question
1150831646 M * dfer what is it
1150831665 M * dfer oj
1150831665 M * angel what version of vserver to put for 2.4.32
1150831666 M * dfer oh
1150831666 M * dfer same
1150831668 M * angel and grsec
1150831669 M * dfer :)
1150831698 M * angel dfer i think version for 2.4.30 will work
1150831706 M * dfer have u tried it
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1150831717 M * angel no but i`ll do that in few moments
1150831740 M * angel btw u have some expierence on vserver things?
1150831757 M * dfer a little
1150831803 M * angel i see one addon for CPU ?
1150831820 M * dfer yeah
1150831852 M * angel this is one patch too?
1150831859 M * angel or need to be installed after vserver ?
1150831905 M * dfer thats what i did
1150831919 M * dfer you're on debian?
1150831922 M * angel put first time the patch
1150831933 M * angel and after that the vproc-0.01.tar [.gz] [.bz2]
1150831934 M * angel ?
1150832240 M * daniel_hozac why on earth would you want to use 2.4?
1150832336 M * angel because i use the machine for shell provider
1150832342 M * angel and 2.4.32 are fast and secure
1150832363 M * angel another question are if i can put grsec patch too
1150832376 M * daniel_hozac if you merge the patches, sure.
1150832388 M * angel please explain me
1150832391 M * angel how to merge ?
1150832493 M * daniel_hozac you look at the patches and solve the conflicts, and make sure the resulting patch makes sense.
1150832635 M * angel so need to be no errors?
1150832645 M * angel is one special grsec for vserver?
1150832686 M * daniel_hozac perhaps, check the wiki.
1150832731 M * angel my english are bad
1150834072 M * angel for vserver need split-2.4.30-vs1.2.10.tar too ?
1150834081 M * angel or only http://www.13thfloor.at/vserver/s_release/v1.2.10/patch-2.4.30-vs1.2.10.diff
1150834109 M * daniel_hozac that's just the large patch as a patch series with lots of smaller patches.
1150834124 M * angel so u can use only patch
1150834166 M * daniel_hozac yep.
1150834217 M * angel ty man
1150834223 M * angel i try http://www.13thfloor.at/vserver/s_release/v1.2.10/patch-2.4.30-vs1.2.10.diff.gz
1150834229 M * angel for kernel 2.4.32
1150834233 M * angel and grsec too
1150834261 M * daniel_hozac http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/patch-2.4.31-vs1.2.11-rc1.diff might be better for that, but i don't know how much 2.4 changes.
1150834382 M * angel ok i`ll try it then
1150835033 M * angel daniel_hozac
1150835038 M * angel don`t work for 2.4.32
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1150844755 M * derjohn rc24 ? changes? wiki?
1150844819 M * daniel_hozac which branch?
1150844838 M * derjohn *lol* both?
1150844856 M * derjohn start with stable
1150844860 M * daniel_hozac all of the memory split stuff related hunks are gone.
1150844874 M * derjohn is that a good sign?
1150844888 M * daniel_hozac delta-flock-fix01 was missing from the 2.6.17 port.
1150844895 M * daniel_hozac depends on your point of view, i suppose.
1150844910 M * daniel_hozac i always had to patch include/asm-i386/page.h manually :)
1150844925 M * daniel_hozac and infiniband memory accounting.
1150844946 M * daniel_hozac i guess the changes were the same for both branches.
1150844972 P * stefani I'm Parting (the water)
1150845005 M * derjohn ok, what was -rc23.2 ?
1150845017 M * daniel_hozac that was from -rc23.2 :)
1150845060 M * derjohn -rc23.2 was declared as rc24 ?
1150845073 M * daniel_hozac no, i meant from -rc23.2 to -rc23.
1150845077 M * daniel_hozac uh, -rc24.
1150845084 M * derjohn check topic :)
1150845135 M * daniel_hozac -rc23 to -rc23.2 was OCFS2 ext2 attributes support, vs_pid removed from sched.h, and delta-peer-fix01.
1150845196 M * derjohn from rc22 to rc23 ?
1150845242 M * derjohn "* all of the memory split stuff related hunks are gone." -> was that -rc23 to -rc24 ?
1150845263 M * daniel_hozac -rc23.2 to -rc24.
1150845269 M * derjohn k
1150845292 M * derjohn all what you told applies to both branches? I cannot imagine ocfs in stable ...
1150845300 M * daniel_hozac no, that was devel.
1150845313 M * daniel_hozac vs_pid isn't in stable either :)
1150845425 M * daniel_hozac which were the changes for stable in -rc23 to -rc23.2, some vs_pid includes had sneaked in to it, loopback device compile fix, quota compile fix, jfs support for ext2 attributes, and delta-peer-fix01.
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1150845625 M * derjohn do you remeber rc22 to rc23 changes=
1150845627 M * derjohn ?
1150845702 M * derjohn daniel_hozac, you may check here: http://linux-vserver.org/ChangeLogDevelExperimental
1150845704 M * daniel_hozac Experimental suggests COW fixes, new syscall to reset the min and max of limits.
1150845715 M * daniel_hozac and of course the 2.6.17 rebase.
1150845724 M * derjohn for what rc?
1150845736 M * daniel_hozac rc22->rc23.
1150845742 M * derjohn k
1150845796 M * derjohn and stable has no CoW ?
1150845797 M * daniel_hozac and the delta-vpid-clean01 which sneaked in.
1150845805 M * daniel_hozac no, nor the new syscall.
1150845865 M * daniel_hozac i guess you'll have to ask Bertl for the details of that, as interdiff really doesn't help when you rebase :)
1150845901 M * derjohn so for stable i only write * 2.6.17 rebase * delta-vpid-clean01
1150845915 M * daniel_hozac no, vpid is only for devel too.
1150845941 M * derjohn well, in stable there was only the rebase then?
1150845956 M * daniel_hozac well, as i said, you'll have to ask Bertl for the details.
1150845961 M * derjohn ok ...
1150845982 M * daniel_hozac there were some vs_pid includes that sneaked in.
1150845999 M * derjohn Bertl_oO, http://linux-vserver.org/ChangeLogStableExperimental and http://linux-vserver.org/ChangeLogDevelExperimental <-- pls check, if i got all %&%&% right
1150846046 M * derjohn != vs_pid removed from sched.h ?
1150846100 M * daniel_hozac why is 2.1.1 on the Stable page?
1150846114 M * daniel_hozac no, with that i meant the reversion of delta-vpid-clean01.
1150846121 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1150846124 M * Bertl evening
1150846125 M * daniel_hozac (it wasn't supposed to be there)
1150846167 M * derjohn thats legacy stuff ... forgot to change due to insufficient input :)
1150846199 M * Bertl btw, daniel_hozac, do you think you could make a list of all patches (deltas) we added since 2.0.1 for stable and 2.1.0 for devel?
1150846202 M * derjohn wb Bertl !
1150846240 M * Bertl I would really like to complete the FOR-* dirs before we have a release
1150846249 M * derjohn Bertl, this sounds like ... ... well ... like you plan a real relase soon and need a proper changelog?
1150846267 M * derjohn !candidate ?
1150846271 M * daniel_hozac given that we have rebased 3 times, that sounds like a tough job.
1150846299 M * Bertl well, I do not care about the version changes
1150846310 M * Bertl (i.e. mainline version base changes)
1150846323 M * Bertl and I do not really care if the patches apply or sum up
1150846376 M * daniel_hozac so what's the requirement? that the patch is still present in 2.0.2-rc24?
1150846381 M * Bertl as derjohn already concluded, I'm more interested in getting an accurate changelog
1150846386 M * daniel_hozac s/0.2/{0.2,1.1}/
1150846413 M * Bertl yes, if we have the functionality and/or effects of a patch in rc24, it's valid for me
1150846429 M * daniel_hozac ok.
1150846500 M * daniel_hozac i've got quite a bit of interdiffs that should ease it somewhat.
1150846510 M * Bertl I probably would have kept the FOR-/PAT-* series up-to-date if there had been any demand for them
1150846536 M * Bertl bus as folks/maintainers did not really care about them (yet) I got lazy ...
1150846572 M * daniel_hozac well, interdiff is my best friend :)
1150846587 M * Bertl and I got the impression that you have a good knowledge what got in and what not ... :)
1150846713 M * daniel_hozac most of the deltas are in Experimental still, right?
1150847224 M * Bertl yep, except for one or two, everything should be there
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