1149897688 J * brc bruce@20151165238.user.veloxzone.com.br
1149897688 J * Adrinael adrinael@hoasb-ff09dd00-79.dhcp.inet.fi
1149897688 J * michal` ~michal@www.rsbac.org
1149897688 J * insomnia1 ~insomniac@slackware.it
1149897688 J * Zaki ~Zaki@212.118.100.131
1149897688 J * phedny ~mark@volcano.p-bierman.nl
1149897688 J * trasher manu@217.160.128.201
1149897688 J * waldi ~waldi@bblank.thinkmo.de
1149897688 J * cemil ~cemil@defiant.wavecon.de
1149897688 J * baggins baggins@kenny.mimuw.edu.pl
1149897688 J * BenBen ~benny@defiant.wavecon.de
1149897688 J * gdm ~gdm@64.62.195.81
1149897773 M * sb Bertl: hm. created with quotacheck.
1149897777 Q * mnemoc Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1149897793 M * Bertl sb: no, maybe the 'format' you request is not available
1149897804 M * sb uh? which firmat?
1149897805 M * Bertl try adding something like -Fvfsv0
1149897808 M * sb err, format
1149897815 M * sb same.. tried with vfsold
1149897821 M * sb say: not aquota.* -> quota.*
1149897839 M * Bertl also check that the quota format is present in the kernel
1149897848 M * bon hello
1149897849 M * sb it's kernel 2.6.16.20-vs2.0.2-rc22
1149897851 M * sb yeah
1149897856 M * sb both formats
1149897859 M * Bertl does it work on the host?
1149897859 M * bon would someone tell me why am i awake at 2 in the morning? :)
1149897867 M * sb Bertl: hm. didn't try...
1149897868 M * sb wait :)
1149897974 M * daniel_hozac bon: it's because you're in this channel :)
1149897985 M * sb on the host it works fine.
1149898007 M * bon daniel_hozac: well i suppose
1149898008 M * sb tried with creating another lvm partition and mounted into the host with usrquota and grpquota in fstab
1149898020 M * bon daniel_hozac: might be the fact that i'm drunkf as well .)
1149898023 M * Bertl sb vroot configured properly?
1149898027 M * sb Bertl: jup.
1149898037 M * sb mknod /dev/vroot01 b 4 0
1149898042 M * Bertl quota_ctl capability?
1149898045 M * sb jup
1149898046 M * sb :)
1149898050 M * sb in ccapdingsda :)
1149898063 M * sb ccapabilities
1149898064 M * Bertl ext3?
1149898066 M * sb yes
1149898075 M * Bertl mounted with 'quota' option?
1149898084 M * sb on the host or on the guest?
1149898104 M * sb /dev/hdv1 on / type ufs (rw,usrquota,grpquota)
1149898105 M * Bertl host
1149898112 M * sb oh. maybe THIS is the problem. wait :)
1149898276 M * sb OMFG!
1149898281 M * sb that's the solution
1149898284 M * sb the howtos should be fixed
1149898293 T * services.oftc.net http://linux-vserver.org/ | latest stable 2.01, 1.2.10, 1.2.11-rc1, devel 2.1.0, exp 2.{0.2,1.1}-rc22 | util-vserver-0.30.210 | libvserver-1.0.2 & vserver-utils-1.0.3 | He who asks a question is a fool for a minute; he who doesn't ask is a fool for a lifetime -- share the gained knowledge on the wiki, and we'll forget about the minute ;)
1149898293 J * FloodServ services@services.oftc.net
1149898297 M * sb the lvm partition needs to be mounted with quota support on the host AND on the guest.
1149898307 M * Bertl go ahead, fix it, but keep in mind that the fs are different
1149898308 M * sb Bertl: dankefein :-))
1149898328 M * sb i think in most cases people using ext2 or ext3...
1149898340 M * sb and i think it doesnt depend on which fs is used
1149898341 M * Bertl yes, but for ext2 it's different
1149898348 M * sb really? whats the difference?
1149898355 M * Bertl the quota is not journaled
1149898395 M * sb hm. i dont see the difference.. for sure the quota itself is different
1149898411 M * Bertl try the same procedure with ext2
1149898429 M * sb heh. will try that tomorrow
1149898435 M * Bertl k
1149898439 M * sb but i'm sure the lvm part on the host needs to be mounted with usrquota, too
1149898448 M * Bertl nope
1149898457 M * sb ah. ok
1149898467 M * sb but.. when mounted on the host with usrquota, does it still work then?
1149898474 M * sb or doesn't it work then? ;)
1149898481 M * Bertl probably it doesn't
1149898489 M * sb .oO(mh meine grammatik is ma wieder voll fuern a**** :)
1149898547 M * sb hm. there are still people walking around with german banners in the city...
1149898566 M * Bertl how unexpected :)
1149898624 M * Bertl .o( one would expect that they are drunk by now and can not walk anymore :)
1149898652 Q * s0undt3c1 Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1149898660 M * sb   Can't remove open logical volume "vstest"
1149898662 M * sb wtf!
1149898667 M * sb it's already umounted
1149898672 M * sb why the hell can't i remove it?
1149898673 M * Bertl in all guests?
1149898682 M * sb it hasn't been used in guests
1149898685 M * sb only at host (quota test ;)
1149898689 M * Bertl but maybe inherited?
1149898690 M * sb ah. quotaoff -a ;)
1149898700 M * sb arg.
1149898704 M * sb it fucked up.
1149898735 M * Bertl -t?
1149898786 M * sb hm. weird.
1149898789 J * s0undt3ch ~s0undt3ch@bl7-245-6.dsl.telepac.pt
1149898793 M * sb stopped the guests and it succeeded.
1149898816 M * Bertl that's what I'm trying to communicate ...
1149898827 M * sb but it wasnt mounted on any guest. hm.
1149898836 M * Bertl it _was_ inherited
1149898840 M * sb by what?
1149898843 M * sb *wondering*
1149898850 M * Bertl becyou started a guest, when it was mounted
1149898866 M * sb hmm.
1149898866 M * Bertl the guest inherits all the mounts of the host
1149898870 M * sb ah. ic.
1149898882 M * Bertl you then unmounted it on the host
1149898896 M * Bertl but it was still mounted in the guest namespace
1149898898 M * daniel_hozac i guess we really need to get waldi's patch in and make it the default...
1149898904 M * Bertl yep
1149898910 M * sb which patch? :)
1149898914 M * sb hrm, same error again
1149898932 M * sb (after rebootin)
1149898945 M * sb damnit. usrquota missing
1149899045 M * sb hm.. the debian quota startscript sucks.
1149899053 M * sb because it checks fstab, not mtab.
1149899160 M * sb anyway, my problem is fixed. thanks :)
1149899178 M * Bertl you're welcome!
1149899260 M * sb hm.. you are one of the main coders, aren't you?
1149899266 M * sb really nice work :)
1149899286 M * sb since vserver 2.x it's really simple to implement a fine hostsystem
1149899319 M * Bertl well, yes, coding some kernel stuff ...
1149899330 M * Bertl glad that you like 2.x
1149899332 M * sb i remember the old ctx stuff.. i gave up after around 2hrs of playing around ;)
1149899368 M * sb (sorry for german) vserver hatn grossen vorteil gegenueber xen.. es is viel einfacher aufzusetzen.
1149899397 M * sb ah another question. in xen you can set a ram limit for each guest.
1149899401 M * sb is that possible with vserver?
1149899444 M * Bertl yes, but not as RAM. you can configure VM and RSS limits
1149899457 M * sb hmm. any howto available?
1149899472 M * daniel_hozac http://linux-vserver.org/Resource+Limits
1149899476 M * sb ah :-)
1149899543 M * sb well, thats really easy. thank you! :)
1149899574 M * sb hmm okay, in sweden there is the same timezone. ;)
1149899597 A * sb waves. gn8.
1149899824 M * Bertl night!
1149900685 J * notlilo ~lilofree@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net
1149902053 Q * shedi Read error: Connection reset by peer
1149902834 J * stefani ~stefani@c-24-19-46-211.hsd1.wa.comcast.net
1149902852 M * Bertl wb stefani!
1149902864 M * stefani hi.   
1149902915 J * shedi ~siggi@130.208.221.254
1149903148 N * sarnold sars
1149904262 M * Bertl here is the first shot on adding iattr support for ocfs2: http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/delta-ocfs2-feat01.diff
1149905450 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: what about this one? 
1149905452 M * Bertl http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/delta-cow-fix05.diff
1149905590 J * mef ~mef@c-68-39-177-97.hsd1.nj.comcast.net
1149905609 M * mef hello
1149905621 M * Bertl hey mef!
1149905939 M * daniel_hozac 240 + 16 == 256 == 0, no?
1149906069 M * daniel_hozac i think the out_ prefix is sort of misleading though if it is really going to jump to retry.
1149906115 M * Bertl okay, so we do 16 -> 15
1149906145 M * Bertl and make the out something like out_or_retry_
1149906157 M * daniel_hozac what about in the success case?
1149906175 M * daniel_hozac won't we need to set retry to zero?
1149906183 M * Bertl yes, missed that one
1149906627 M * daniel_hozac hmm, actually, i guess that's not necessary as the if (ret != -EEXIST) would trigger if it was successful.
1149906763 M * Bertl ah, yes, I wondered because I actually tested it :)
1149907099 M * Bertl okay folks, I'm off to bed now .. have a good one everyone, cya tomorrow!
1149907121 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
1149907122 M * daniel_hozac good night!
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1149919432 P * hound 
1149921828 J * DarthVader ~Aniken@203.177.212.165
1149921910 J * dna ~naucki@dialer-185-116.kielnet.net
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1149923672 Q * notlilo oxygen.oftc.net xenon.oftc.net
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1149923672 Q * doener_ oxygen.oftc.net xenon.oftc.net
1149923672 Q * mcp oxygen.oftc.net xenon.oftc.net
1149923672 Q * _Kara oxygen.oftc.net xenon.oftc.net
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1149923763 J * mcp ~hightower@wolk-project.de
1149923865 J * notlilo ~lilofree@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net
1149923865 J * s0undt3ch ~s0undt3ch@bl7-245-6.dsl.telepac.pt
1149923865 J * doener_ ~doener@i5387C194.versanet.de
1149923865 J * _Kara ~Kashira@wan14.ihredomainadresse.de
1149923865 J * anonc ~anonc@staffnet.internode.com.au
1149923865 J * weasel weasel@weasel.noc.oftc.net
1149923865 J * Smutje ~Smutje@xdsl-87-78-98-134.netcologne.de
1149923865 J * Snow-Man ~sfrost@kenobi.snowman.net
1149923865 J * ddlp ~niko@dsl081-142-022.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net
1149924697 J * eyck_ eyck@ghost.anime.pl
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1149927707 J * Vito` ~Vito@cpe-66-68-86-154.austin.res.rr.com
1149927832 M * Vito` Hello, I'm looking into virtualization solutions for embedded systems (e.g. gumstix, which is xscale), and it would seem that vserver is about the only thing that works on ARM right now.  There are Debian packages, but ARM isn't listed on the wiki as being supported.  Is it stable/tested/supported at all?
1149928408 J * zkbrsnie ~zkbrsnie@83.64.146.226
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1149930116 J * mnemoc ~amery@216.241.24.10
1149930384 M * harry Vito`: can't help you on that, sry
1149930402 M * harry btw. kinky... virtualisation on embedded systems... what are you gonna do?
1149930865 N * nebuchad` nebuchadnezzar
1149931905 J * Viper0482 ~Viper0482@p54975D6C.dip.t-dialin.net
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1149933737 J * Viper0482 ~Viper0482@p54975D6C.dip.t-dialin.net
1149934357 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1149934362 M * Bertl morning folks!
1149934373 M * phedny hi Bertl 
1149934393 M * Bertl Vito`: it is tested every now and then on my ipaq :)
1149934433 M * Bertl Vito`: but if you encounter any issues, I'm pretty sure it will be fixed immediately
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1149944286 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: what about this 'improvement'?
1149944290 M * Bertl http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/delta-cow-fix06.diff
1149946936 J * liquid3649_ ~Viper0482@p549750D7.dip.t-dialin.net
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1149947083 J * Viper0482 ~Viper0482@p549750D7.dip.t-dialin.net
1149948417 J * meandtheshell ~markus@85-124-207-219.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at
1149948441 M * meandtheshell hi folks
1149948612 M * Bertl hey meandtheshell!
1149948865 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: now i'm happy :)
1149948954 M * meandtheshell I´ve got a question. What does line 17 carry out - see http://nopaste.debianforum.de/3391 
1149949000 M * meandtheshell Why is it needed?
1149949025 M * meandtheshell The code snippet was taken from "testme.sh"
1149949043 M * doener_ looks like colors...
1149949062 M * doener_ $eR holds the ansi sequence for red AFAICT
1149949085 M * Bertl meandtheshell: yes, it makes life more colorful :)
1149949092 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: great!
1149949107 M * meandtheshell Bertl: aha - thx :-)
1149949111 M * doener_ it just avoids typing that cryptic stuff over and over again ;)
1149949135 M * Bertl ah, well ansi sequences are simple, so it's more for readability
1149949157 M * Bertl everybody knows what ^[[x;xP means no?
1149949187 M * meandtheshell All right - now I got it.
1149949216 M * meandtheshell doener_:right - the assignment was clear - but the semantics wasn´t 
1149950117 J * matti matti@linux.gentoo.pl
1149950124 M * Bertl welcome matti!
1149950176 M * matti Hello Bertl :)
1149950910 Q * doener_ Quit: brb
1149951235 P * stefani parting (is such sweet sorrow)
1149951911 J * sezuan ~sezuan@2a01:b0:10d8:0:213:8fff:fe01:f96f
1149951918 M * Bertl welcome sezuan!
1149952060 M * sezuan :-)
1149952074 M * sezuan hi.
1149952112 M * Bertl I'm your friendly bot, what can I do for you?
1149952129 M * sezuan Is it normal that there's not much entropy for /dev/random? 
1149952151 M * Bertl depends, usually the pool can be exhausted pretty easily
1149952176 M * Bertl (especially if 10 guests create strong host keys :)
1149952189 M * sezuan I've big problems to send mails. After few mails it stops for hours.
1149952211 M * Bertl try to replace random with urandom
1149952219 M * sezuan i've changed random to urandom, but that's a bad solution.
1149952238 M * Bertl well, the only other 'solution' is to add entropy
1149952247 M * sezuan How can I do that?
1149952270 M * Bertl attach a sound card, record the noise in the datacenter, or for pc/desktop, use a mouse on a string :)
1149952280 M * sezuan I assume that all vserver are sharing the entropy?
1149952301 M * Bertl yes, of course, there is no other way to do this
1149952316 M * sezuan I mostly use vserver on pc that don't have soundcard, mouse or keyboard.
1149952328 M * Bertl that's why tentropy is low
1149952339 M * Bertl an alternative is a true random generator
1149952403 A * derjohn thinks of md5-ing lkml   ...
1149952442 M * derjohn </unqualified comment> 
1149952457 M * derjohn Bertl, did you make any progress in the tap thing?
1149952498 M * Bertl no, I didn't really work on that yet
1149952510 M * Bertl but you can test the ocfs2 stuff 
1149952526 M * derjohn Bertl, ok, np . just wanted to know if i should try something
1149952542 M * Bertl will happen this evening I guess
1149952560 M * derjohn well, custers are my hobby, but wasnt there someone else warmtalking you about the ocfs thing?
1149952579 M * derjohn i would even love to find time for the openssi thing!
1149952582 M * Bertl yep, orinpanda ...
1149952661 M * derjohn is ocfs2 a true alternative to drdb + nfs ?
1149952671 M * derjohn (I never used that)
1149952686 M * Bertl well, not to drbd, as it would require something like drbd
1149952699 M * Bertl but probably to nfs for shared partitions
1149952729 M * derjohn ahhhh, i needs shared storage, too? I thought it like a distributed fs .... but it seems it isnt :)
1149952745 M * Bertl maybe it is, I'm not that far yet :)
1149952771 J * doener ~doener@i5387C194.versanet.de
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1149953550 M * derjohn bye /me away ... 
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1149955382 J * sladen paul@starsky.19inch.net
1149955838 M * Bertl okay, off for dinner now ...
1149955844 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
1149957194 M * trippeh In /proc/virtual/<xid>/sched, what is the definition for the cpu lines?
1149957242 M * daniel_hozac hmm?
1149957249 M * daniel_hozac what the values mean?
1149957304 M * trippeh Yes, if its seconds user, sys, wait or whatever
1149957319 M * trippeh Doesn't seem to be documented at http://linux-vserver.org/HowTo+Read+ProcFS
1149957346 M * daniel_hozac what version are you using?
1149957383 M * trippeh 2.0.1-rc21 or 22
1149957388 M * trippeh 2.0.2 even
1149957439 M * daniel_hozac then it's user ticks, sys ticks, and on hold ticks.
1149957484 M * trippeh ticks in vserver-speak is one HZ?
1149957708 M * daniel_hozac it's the same as the kernel's definition, so yes.
1149957722 M * trippeh Ok, thanks
1149958039 M * trippeh Now if the kernel would tell me its current HZ value.. ;-)
1149958045 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1149958048 M * Bertl back now ...
1149958115 M * Bertl trippeh: default is 250 now, 100 and 1000 are options
1149958137 M * trippeh I know, but it would be practical to be able to figure it out in a consistent, robust manner
1149958155 M * trippeh From userspace
1149958181 A * trippeh is writing graphing plugins
1149958264 M * Bertl right, IIRC, it should be exported somewhere
1149958300 M * trippeh I'm currently poking around in procfs and sysfs
1149958374 M * daniel_hozac /proc/config.gz?
1149958525 M * trippeh Unfortunatly that one is a optional thing, as is /boot/config-$kver, so it gets whacky from a distribution POV
1149958572 M * trippeh I guess I should care too much about it though ;-)
1149958577 M * trippeh I shouln't even
1149958637 M * Bertl maybe we should 'convert' them to msec or something like that 
1149958684 M * trippeh That was what I was thinking, IIRC the lkml consensus is that HZ is a kernel internal thing, not to be used from userspace
1149958708 M * Bertl yeah, well, the info is no official one either
1149958721 M * Bertl (the info in sched)
1149958876 M * trippeh I guess I could parse output from vserver-stat, but how does it convert it?
1149958886 A * trippeh should probably look at the source ;)
1149958951 M * daniel_hozac vserver-stat is ugly.
1149958968 M * daniel_hozac /proc/virtual/.../sched is far more accurate.
1149959014 A * trippeh decides to live with ticks for now
1149961191 M * Bertl trippeh: maybe make it configurable?
1149961217 M * Bertl i.e. the one displaying/using the graph decides 'how many ticks' make up a second?
1149961280 M * trippeh Yeah, could work, however the rrd's would get screwed over a bit if you forget to update it when changing the kernel config
1149961284 M * trippeh No big deal
1149961304 M * Bertl we'll try to provide a generalized interface in the future
1149961313 M * trippeh Cool :)
1149961879 J * doener_ ~doener@i5387EA06.versanet.de
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1149962354 J * dna ~naucki@dialer-160-215.kielnet.net
1149963351 M * Bertl welcome dna!
1149963360 M * dna huhu
1149963381 M * dna and hello to doener_ ;)
1149964633 J * Speed ~Speedd@CBL212-235-9-103.bb.netvision.net.il
1149964675 P * Speed 
1149964798 J * Speed ~Speedd@CBL212-235-9-103.bb.netvision.net.il
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1149965359 M * Bertl hmm, seems to work nice the flood protection (or whatever it is :)
1149966418 M * doener_ indeed, now I just need something to group those kills in irssi, like the netsplit thing...
1149966608 M * Bertl yup, a join/kill grouper :)
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1149971444 M * Loki|muh Bertl: can you say a few words about 'secure' mounting in vservers? I have something in mind that there was a possibility but I can't find nothing in the wiki
1149971506 M * Loki|muh I mean mounting in the guest
1149971541 M * Bertl well, there are certain ccaps (secure_mount) which allow this
1149971557 M * Bertl basically they add the essential nodev flag to the mount option
1149971605 M * Bertl but, the problem there is, that a bad/broken filesystem can always crash the kernel, so it's not suited for a potential hostile environment
1149971631 M * Loki|muh so network mounts would be possible
1149971664 M * Bertl yes (they have a specal mount requirement), but unfortunately they have other issues
1149971701 M * Bertl for example an nfs mount done from a remote machine, which then goes offline, will cause heavy timeouts
1149971727 M * Bertl (and those happen in the kernel, so they will affect all guests)
1149971730 M * Loki|muh I just over adjusting the initscripts package for ubuntu dapper since it uses /var/run and /var/lock as tempfs and I want to delete unnecessary things out of this package
1149971737 M * Loki|muh +am
1149971752 M * Loki|muh uh the whole system will hang?
1149971761 M * Loki|muh for a while
1149971764 M * Bertl well, the kernel will handle those timeouts
1149971767 M * sb nfs is evil when the remote side goes offline. any chance to force umount then? ;)
1149971776 M * Bertl after all, you mount the filesystem with the kernel
1149971813 M * Bertl sb: would probably be doable
1149971857 M * Loki|muh ok thanks
1149972000 M * sb hm. ;) i remember the last time. remote side was offline and my server hung like hell. with load of around 100 ;)
1149972028 M * Bertl brb, sec
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1149972747 M * Bertl back, had to reboot
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