1149639147 J * derjohn2 ~aj@dslb-084-059-011-117.pools.arcor-ip.net
1149639331 M * Radiance i noticed a high cpuload after rebooting with the latest stable vserver setup (2.6.16.17 + vs2.0.2-rc21.diff)
1149639342 M * Radiance every action i do causes the cpu to spike to 100 %
1149639368 M * Radiance anyway encountered this ? 
1149639412 J * notlilo ~lilofree@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net
1149639415 M * daniel_hozac that's not the latest :)
1149639424 M * daniel_hozac 2.6.16.20 and 2.0.2-rc22 is the latest.
1149639430 M * daniel_hozac but no.
1149639502 M * Radiance ah ok, cause on the site i see only 2.6.16.17 heh
1149639532 M * Bertl Radiance: hmm, where do you check the cpu?
1149639555 M * Bertl Radiance: and do you have something like frequency scaling enabled?
1149639555 M * Radiance there is no vserver active yet, just new kernel + vserver patch activated
1149639570 M * Radiance with top, no powermanagement or frequency governors
1149639573 M * Radiance just full power
1149639601 M * Bertl and if you do something like top, it uses 100% cpu?
1149639601 M * Radiance so i'm thinking to skip trouble shooting the current situation and go for 2.6.16.20 ...
1149639618 M * Radiance no, but when i press a few times enter while top is running then it spikes to 100 %
1149639634 M * Bertl cool
1149639668 M * Bertl okay, let's check if 2.6.16.20 exposes the same issues
1149639675 M * Radiance indeed :)
1149639693 M * Radiance this server is based on a sis chipset which i normally don't use
1149639723 M * Radiance lemme setup up the new kernel + vserver
1149639963 M * Radiance slow connection over there, will take at least 35 min hehe
1149640168 M * doener for about 650KB?
1149640194 M * Radiance no the kernel that is
1149640240 M * doener yeah, the .20 patch is about 50KB, the vserver patch about 600KB
1149640269 M * Radiance i'm getting the whole kernel not the patch
1149640283 M * doener any reason for doing that?
1149640285 M * Bertl the trick is to keep the 2.6.16 kernel and use the 2.6.16.20 patch
1149640293 M * Radiance not really, just routine :)
1149640358 M * doener if you have a slow connection, I'd suggest to change that routine ;) (well, it's a good idea anyway... and hardlinks are cheap :)
1149640561 M * Radiance i could go from .17 to .18 to .19 to .20 by patches in this case 
1149640596 M * Bertl well, you could revert the .17 patch and apply the .20 one
1149640602 M * doener no, the .20 patch is against 2.6.16
1149640608 M * Bertl the .17 one too
1149640618 M * doener and if you only have .17, do what Bertl said ;)
1149640679 M * Radiance ah, so you mean 2.6.16.* can be patched with the .20 ?
1149640690 M * Bertl no, but 2.6.16 can
1149640694 M * doener 2.6.16 can be patched with the .20 patch
1149640702 M * Radiance i don't have that one on the system
1149640707 M * Radiance only 2.6.16.17
1149640710 M * doener but you can get 2.6.16 from 2.6.16.x by reverting the patch for 2.6.16.x
1149640716 M * Bertl that's why I said, you first revert 2.6.16.17
1149640726 M * Bertl which gives you 2.6.16 :)
1149640752 M * Bertl let's assume you have linux-2.6.16.17, yes?
1149640758 M * Bertl you basically do:
1149640760 M * doener cp -la linux-2.6.16.17 linux-2.6.16; cd linux-2.6.16; patch -r -p1 < $PATCH-2.6.16.17;
1149640771 M * Bertl hrm -R :)
1149640802 M * doener oops... I'll claim my shift key to be guilty :)
1149640813 M * Radiance yeah i know this, just thinking that i'd rather use the latest stable 2.6.16.20 now that i'm busy anyway
1149640850 M * doener so? once you got 2.6.16, you patch it to get 2.6.16.20
1149640863 M * doener that makes about 100KB in total to go from .17 to .20
1149640869 M * Radiance but it's a small bother to download those few 50kb patches and get to .20 too
1149640905 M * Bertl I probably lost you somewhere ...
1149640922 M * Bertl but it's fine for me, keep on downloading/patching :)
1149640981 M * Radiance blame the 06-06-06 !
1149640983 M * Radiance :-)
1149640997 P * enet 
1149641004 M * Bertl it's already the 7th of june here for some time now :)
1149641012 M * Radiance ah then you escaped !
1149641025 M * doener hm, that reminds me that I wanted to polish/publish my kernel tools...
1149641044 M * Bertl ah, kernel tools, sounds interesting!
1149641093 M * Radiance i'm gonna reboot to the distro kernel, a 2.4.27, cause i'm sure when i even unpack and compile something it'll take ages with this cpu load problem
1149641095 M * doener well, just a stupid set of scripts that download/apply/generate kernel patches and one that wraps make to set O=foobar
1149641545 M * Radiance ok reboot was good, no cpu load problems with the oldy :)
1149641577 Q * Zaki[] Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1149641617 M * Radiance upgrading the .17 kernel to .20 and then i'll apply the .20 vserver patch
1149642206 M * Radiance ok compiling
1149642834 M * doener I'm off to bed... have a good one!
1149642844 M * Bertl u2!
1149643840 M * Radiance had to take care of some stuff, but rebooting now with new .20 kernel + .20 vserver patch
1149643932 N * sarnold sars
1149643949 M * Bertl great!
1149644143 J * hound weasel@tor.noreply.org
1149644158 M * Bertl hmm, wb weasel!
1149644209 M * weasel hm?
1149644244 M * Bertl hmm, coincidence?
1149644253 M * weasel what?
1149644257 M * Bertl in this case, welcome hound!
1149644264 M * weasel ah
1149644272 M * weasel hound is using the tor hidden service that points at oftc
1149644297 M * hound hi!
1149644301 M * hound indeed I am
1149645262 M * Radiance BertI, sorry, can't get rest here hehe
1149645281 M * Radiance BertI, but bad news, still cpu load, even with .20 kernel + latest stable vserver patch
1149645358 M * Bertl could you try with plain vanilla .20 plus your current config?
1149645366 M * Radiance i'm gonna boot with the .20 kernel without vserver patch, so i can see if it's the kernel
1149645368 M * Radiance indeed
1149645369 M * Radiance :)
1149645600 J * MrX ~urk@218.208.215.146
1149646806 J * mcsx ~after@201-34-92-239.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br
1149646817 P * mcsx 
1149647293 M * Radiance BertI, compiling now
1149650166 J * Aiken_ ~james@tooax8-186.dialup.optusnet.com.au
1149650482 Q * Aiken Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1149650949 M * Bertl okay, I'm off to bed for today .. have a good one everyone!
1149650955 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
1149653292 Q * dsoul Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1149654172 J * TuneUp ~upndown@adsl-70-231-239-40.dsl.snfc21.sbcglobal.net
1149654545 P * TuneUp 
1149659412 J * DarthVader ~Aniken@203.177.212.165
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1149660844 J * shedi ~siggi@inferno.lhi.is
1149661658 N * _starlein starlein
1149662066 J * dsoul darksoul@vice.ii.uj.edu.pl
1149663437 Q * dsoul Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1149663620 J * Viper0482 ~Viper0482@p5497780F.dip.t-dialin.net
1149664238 J * dsoul darksoul@149.156.65.93
1149664273 J * dna ~naucki@dialer-184-232.kielnet.net
1149665032 J * Milf ~Miranda@ipsio135.ipsi.fraunhofer.de
1149665342 J * ||Cobra|| ~cob@pc-csa01.science.uva.nl
1149665998 J * Zaki ~Zaki@212.118.105.153
1149667447 Q * Aiken_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1149667761 M * Loki|muh is it possible to check available capabilities inside a guest?
1149668793 M * doener /proc/virtual/<XID>/status
1149668917 Q * michal` Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1149669332 J * michal` ~michal@www.rsbac.org
1149670199 M * h01ger moin. ipv6 is not in the stable branch or is it? and how stable/complete is it?
1149670335 Q * locksy Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1149670408 M * tokkee Oh... derjohn has been clone()ed ;-)
1149670474 M * tokkee Re btw. ;-)
1149670524 M * tokkee h01ger: iirc doener was doing the ipv6 support - you should ask him.
1149670552 M * doener hell no! I have no idea about IPv6 ;)
1149670559 M * h01ger tokkee, thanx for highlighting him :) ohh
1149670565 M * tokkee I'm sorry ;-)
1149670575 M * doener bonbons is working on a patch, no idea how well it works
1149670584 M * h01ger for which branch?
1149670598 M * doener     http://homepage.internet.lu/brunop/vserver/
1149670600 M * tokkee .oO( I knew it was something to eat ;-)
1149670625 J * cdrx ~legoater@70-33-118-80.kaptech.net
1149670636 M * h01ger doener, thx. its against the 2.1 branch
1149671162 M * tokkee doener: Btw. (as this is an English channel) you should call yourself kebab *scnr* ;-)
1149671970 M * doener the name has/originally had nothing to do with the food...
1149672162 M * sid3windr ;)
1149672170 M * tokkee ;-) What a pitty ;-)
1149672183 M * tokkee Has anyone managed to compile glibc 2.4 using gcc 3.4?
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1149674628 J * michal` ~michal@www.rsbac.org
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1149675532 N * Guest169 otaku42
1149675603 J * shedi ~siggi@dsl-og-108-50.du.vortex.is
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1149676900 J * Viper0482 ~Viper0482@p5497780F.dip.t-dialin.net
1149677096 J * locksy ~locksy@mrtg.sisgroup.com.au
1149677418 J * click click@ti511110a080-0750.bb.online.no
1149678381 Q * ryanc Quit: Client Exiting
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1149679223 J * phedny ~mark@volcano.p-bierman.nl
1149679831 J * harti ~hw@83-215-237-5.seek.stat.salzburg-online.at
1149679905 J * jhaig ~jhaig@mantis.office.netline.net.uk
1149680316 Q * DarthVader Quit: Leaving
1149681742 J * cdrx ~legoater@cap31-3-82-227-199-249.fbx.proxad.net
1149682487 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1149682491 M * Bertl morning folks!
1149682527 M * phedny morning Bertl 
1149682852 M * Bertl hey phedny! how's going?
1149682909 M * phedny i'm fine
1149682951 Q * Hollow Remote host closed the connection
1149682986 M * phedny only typing slow as i'm trying to learn dvorak keyboard layout :)
1149683037 M * phedny and how are you doing?
1149683110 M * Bertl fine, tx!
1149683420 M * phedny S)
1149683427 M * phedny :) I mean
1149683477 M * waldi Bertl: do you know if there exists a example config for multi seat with linux/vserver?
1149683520 Q * Nam Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1149683610 M * Bertl waldi: you should ask zeng when he is around again ... he was doing some documentation for that
1149683621 M * orionpanda what is multi seat?
1149683640 M * waldi more than one keyboard, mouse and monitor on one machine
1149683648 M * orionpanda ah. thx
1149683666 M * phedny on console or also with X?
1149683671 M * Bertl yes, and all separated of course
1149683707 M * phedny nice, X can work from inside a vserver? :)
1149683749 M * orionpanda bertl: I put together a simple howto for installing ocfs2 on a single node for vserver testing: http://orionpanda.org
1149683776 Q * Milf Read error: Operation timed out
1149683785 M * orionpanda Unfortunately, ocfs2 does not support extended attributes. However, there's a patch someone wrote for adding their own custom attribute.
1149683894 Q * harti Quit: Leaving
1149683927 Q * michal` Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1149683976 M * Bertl orionpanda: excellent!
1149683992 M * orionpanda I hope it is helpful. 
1149684025 M * orionpanda let me know if you want me to test/debug/install anything re ocfs2
1149684080 M * Bertl what does the /etc/init.d/o2cb.init actually do/start?
1149684186 M * orionpanda it starts a managemnt daemon: o2net, ocfs2_wq ocfs2vote-1
1149684245 M * Bertl hmm, I don't have those?
1149684270 M * Bertl they are not part of the ocfs2-tools as it seems?
1149684276 M * orionpanda all you need is the kernel option enabled (as a module), and to build and install the ocfs2-tools package. 
1149684307 M * orionpanda They may be forked off of something. Not sure
1149684308 M * Bertl 1.2.1 tools contain /sbin/o2cb_ctl, /sbin/ocfs2_hb_ctl and /sbin/ocfs2cdsl/sbin/ocfs2cdsl
1149684315 M * orionpanda right. those are user tools
1149684341 M * Bertl so could you check the init.d script for me what it _actually_ starts?
1149684357 J * michal` ~michal@www.rsbac.org
1149684363 M * Bertl wb michal`!
1149684851 M * orionpanda ok. all o2cb.init does is load/unload the kernel modules. The ocfs2-tools contain only the userspace tools, not the cluster services (such as o2net). Those services are part of the kernel modules, distributed in the mainline kernel.
1149684882 M * Bertl okay, good, so with mainline 2.6.16.20 those should be kernel threads, yes?
1149684906 M * orionpanda right. I tried this on 2.6.16.17.
1149684921 M * Bertl good
1149685712 M * jhaig Just starting to play around with vserver on CentOS 4.3.  I've got the RPMs from <http://matvey.org.ru/pub/RedHat/RHEL4/vserver/>, following the link from the vserver home page which includes a warning that they are ' untested/unchecked/unofficial'.  Is this recommended, or would the FC4 RPMs be better?
1149685753 M * Bertl why not use the soruce?
1149685770 M * Bertl *source
1149685777 M * jhaig I see that there is also a document explaining how to build it from source.  Is this better than using the binaries?
1149685807 M * Bertl IMHO building tools and kernel from source is the best choice, if you know what you are doing ...
1149685815 M * jhaig I noticed that it mentioned a problem with yum in CentOS 4.3.  Is this a major issue?
1149685818 M * Bertl (if not, it can't hurt to learn it :)
1149685841 J * Nam ~nam@S0106001195551ff0.va.shawcable.net
1149685844 M * Bertl jhaig: AFAIK the yum issues are all resolved somehow
1149685861 M * Bertl i.e. either patches for certain yum versions or by jsut ignoring some complaints
1149685903 M * jhaig I'm evaluating different ways of doing virtual servers, so at first I just want something up and running quickly.  Ultimately, I think that it would be sensible to have a custom kernel, though.
1149685955 M * Bertl I'm not sure centos is the best choice for 'quickly' :)
1149685975 M * jhaig By the way, linux-vserver is the second thing I've tried.  First I looked at freevps, but was discouraged by the lack of any documentation.  vserver doesn't seem to suffer from this, thankfully.
1149685979 M * Bertl you're probably better off with FC4/5 here
1149686031 M * jhaig I did think that but (1) I am also in the process of putting together a custom CentOS install system and (2) I personally don't think that FC is suitable for servers.
1149686057 M * jhaig (But that is a personal opinion, and I don't want to start a flame war  ;-) )
1149686065 M * Bertl too late :)
1149686105 N * orionpanda orionpanda_afk
1149686133 J * Hollow ~hollow@home.xnull.de
1149686150 M * Bertl welcome Hollow!
1149686169 M * Hollow hey Bertl! but i'm off now! have a nice day :)
1149686444 M * daniel_hozac jhaig: you'd definitely be better off with sources, those RPMs are two versions old.
1149686458 M * daniel_hozac jhaig: the kernels aren't exactly recent either...
1149686541 M * jhaig OK, maybe I'll give it a go.
1149687171 N * orionpanda_afk orionpanda
1149688847 Q * pusling Ping timeout: 480 seconds
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1149689178 J * ddlp ~niko@dsl081-142-022.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net
1149689181 M * phedny what page can I find more info about running X from inside a vserver?
1149689188 J * pusling pusling@195.215.29.124
1149689205 Q * MrX Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1149689559 M * doener phedny: http://linux-vserver.org/Vservers+and+X
1149689608 M * phedny by the way, isn't there an index page that shows all available pages in the wiki?
1149689620 M * phedny doener: thanks :)
1149689644 M * doener you need to tear down some walls between the vservers though ;)
1149689694 M * phedny it's for my desktop pc and personal use
1149689710 M * phedny and since I completelly trust myself most of the time that shouldn't be a problem :)
1149689840 M * doener heh
1149690847 Q * michal` Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1149690879 M * Bertl okay, off for now .. back later
1149690884 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
1149691317 J * michal` ~michal@www.rsbac.org
1149691356 J * DFG sssssa@adsl9-212.qualitynet.net
1149692242 Q * matti Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1149692328 N * DFG oper
1149692341 P * oper 
1149692760 J * matti matti@linux.gentoo.pl
1149692777 N * orionpanda orionpanda_bbl
1149693277 Q * matti Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1149693316 J * Milf ~Miranda@ipsio8.ipsi.fraunhofer.de
1149693341 J * stefani ~stefani@tsipoor.banerian.org
1149693351 M * Milf Is it possible to debootstrap a VServer with the newest ubuntu version?
1149693397 M * daniel_hozac probably, assuming you have the file(s) debootstrap needs to find it.
1149693410 M * Milf Hmmm, how would I know I have them?
1149693518 M * daniel_hozac i guess vserver ... build -m debootstrap ... -- -d <name of newest> would complain if you don't ;)
1149693617 M * doener Milf: If you don't have debootstrap installed, temporarily replacing the url to debian's debootstrap with that of ubuntu's in the util-vserver scripts might do the trick, IIRC it downloads debootstrap every time if it is not installed
1149693756 M * Milf Hmmm, I'll have to try that one because I only see debootstrap scripts for debian versions in /var/tmp/debootstrap.z20621/usr/lib/debootstrap/scripts/
1149693831 N * otaku42 otaku42_away
1149693852 M * Milf Do I have problems reading or is the newest Ubuntu version called 'lts'?
1149693875 M * doener Dapper Drake
1149693888 M * doener the debootstrap script is named "dapper" IIRC
1149693944 M * doener Ubuntu 6.06 LTS means: Ubuntu, release in June 2006, with Long Time Support
1149693962 M * doener and that release's code name is Dapper Drake
1149693973 M * Milf So I do have trouble reading the Ubuntu homepage
1149694052 M * doener well, the code name is not mentioned there, probably because 6.06 LTS aims at business markets
1149694102 M * Milf Yeah, the good things never stop tainting :)
1149694739 M * Milf Hmmm, don't know if I got this right. But I found ubuntu's debootstrap on their archive site and I also found a  debootstrap_0.3.3.0ubuntu2_all.deb, but just placing the URL to that file in the -m option of debottstrap didn't work. There is no 'dapper' script in the directory with all the scripts.
1149694852 M * doener you have to place the url of debootstrap into /etc/vservers/.defaults/apps/debootstrap/uri
1149694890 M * Loki|muh Milf: download the dapper debootstrap and install it via dpkg -i ;)
1149694916 M * Milf That might be a problem, as I only have a SuSE hostserver :)
1149694937 M * Loki|muh uh ;)
1149694992 M * Milf I'm never shy to do things the hard way.
1149695007 J * ||Cobra|| ~cob@pc-csa01.science.uva.nl
1149695015 M * Milf doener: Ok, i'll try it.
1149695065 M * Milf Yeah baby, it's working! Thanks doener!
1149695102 M * doener you're welcome
1149695208 M * Milf Now that's what I call user friendly :)
1149695393 M * harry grmbl
1149695396 M * harry again... same problem
1149695400 M * harry unremovable dir!!!!
1149695431 M * harry rmdir("cwisdbtest/")                    = -1 EBUSY (Device or resource busy)
1149695444 M * harry lsof | grep cwis... nothing
1149695454 M * harry nothing mounted
1149695484 M * tokkee harry: Was the dir part of a guest?
1149695510 M * harry it was a guest, yes
1149695532 M * tokkee Are there any subdirectories left inside?
1149695563 M * harry nope
1149695593 M * tokkee What does vnamespace -e $XID mount say?
1149695679 M * harry which xid ?
1149695696 M * tokkee The xid of the (former) guest.
1149695707 M * harry hmm... which one was that...
1149695720 M * harry grasp this:
1149695721 M * harry gandalf:/usr/local# find . -type f -exec grep cwis {} \;
1149695721 M * harry /usr/local/etc/vservers/cwisdbtest
1149695721 M * harry gandalf:/usr/local# rm /usr/local/etc/vservers/cwisdbtest
1149695721 M * harry rm: cannot remove `/usr/local/etc/vservers/cwisdbtest': No such file or directory
1149695810 Q * ||Cobra|| Remote host closed the connection
1149695842 M * tokkee ls -l /usr/local/etc/vservers?
1149695859 M * harry no cwisdbtest
1149695864 M * harry the others are there
1149695878 M * tokkee I think find does some form of caching results...
1149695892 M * harry probably
1149695907 M * harry what to do about it?
1149695939 M * tokkee Well... obviously the directory doesn't exist any more. Isn't that what you tryed to achieve? ;-)
1149695955 M * harry not really... since...
1149695958 M * tokkee tried even ;-)
1149695966 M * harry gandalf:/usr/local# ls -l /vservers/|grep cwis
1149695966 M * harry drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  48 May 31 17:12 cwisdbtest
1149695977 M * tokkee ?
1149695981 M * harry gandalf:/usr/local# rmdir /vservers/cwisdbtest/
1149695981 M * harry rmdir: `/vservers/cwisdbtest/': Device or resource busy
1149695992 M * harry i want that dir gone
1149695997 M * harry out of the system
1149696000 M * harry so that i can make a new one
1149696019 M * harry i think it's some kind of lvm/devicemapper problem
1149696029 M * tokkee Well... "Device or resource busy" sounds like there is some mount or something still left...
1149696051 M * tokkee Oh... I don't know anything about that, sorry...
1149696068 M * harry that's what it seems, yes
1149696074 M * harry but: lsof -n | grep cwis : nothing
1149696098 M * harry nothing in /proc/<pid>/cwd is working on that dir
1149696103 M * harry nothing mounted
1149696108 M * harry no nfs exports there
1149696114 M * harry (not even nfs on that system ;))
1149696168 M * tokkee udev?
1149696195 M * tokkee devfs? Something like that...
1149696218 M * harry yups
1149696253 M * harry we use udev
1149696332 M * tokkee I don't know udev ;-) Might that cause any problems?
1149696350 M * harry maybe
1149696353 M * harry i don't know either ;)
1149696389 M * tokkee ;-)
1149696488 Q * shedi Quit: Leaving
1149696524 M * tokkee harry: Can you simply reboot that machine? ... I know - that's a pretty bad solution :-/
1149696651 M * harry that works...
1149696656 M * harry and yes, that's not possible ;)
1149696668 M * tokkee I'd guess so ;-)
1149696741 M * tokkee Hum... sorry - I don't have any more ideas right now... :-/
1149696813 M * daniel_hozac harry: enter all of your running guests' namespaces and umount it.
1149696844 M * tokkee daniel_hozac: vnamespace -e $xid umount / ?
1149696851 M * harry http://pastebin.com/765465
1149696855 M * harry check this out!
1149696870 M * harry tokkee: xid is 46, and it's not running
1149696873 M * harry so i can't do that
1149696888 M * daniel_hozac tokkee: no, /vservers/...
1149696931 M * harry daniel_hozac: unmount what?
1149696953 M * daniel_hozac i assume you had a mount on /vservers/cwisdbtest.
1149696965 M * harry HAD, yes
1149697006 M * daniel_hozac did you mount that from /etc/vservers/.../fstab?
1149697043 M * harry no
1149697046 M * harry /etc/fstab
1149697059 M * daniel_hozac so that mount is present in all current namespaces.
1149697069 M * harry ?
1149697076 M * harry all vservers are mounted in /vserver
1149697083 M * harry one of them was cwisdbtest
1149697092 M * harry all lvm volumes
1149697097 M * daniel_hozac you'll have to enter all of your guests and umount it.
1149697108 M * harry daniel_hozac: unmount WHAT?!
1149697116 M * daniel_hozac /vservers/cwisdbtest, still.
1149697129 M * harry there is no /vservers/cwisdbtest in other vservres
1149697137 M * harry why would that be in other vservers???
1149697141 M * daniel_hozac but the mount is in their namespace.
1149697167 M * harry ???
1149697168 M * harry i don't get it
1149697195 M * daniel_hozac vnamespace -e <xid of running guest started before you umounted it> cat /proc/mounts
1149697261 M * harry hmmm...
1149697267 M * harry veeeeeeeeerry freaky
1149697272 M * harry you're right!
1149697279 M * harry how do i unmount it in every namespace ?
1149697308 M * harry by hand?
1149697312 M * daniel_hozac for i in `ls -1 /proc/virtual`; do vnamespace -e $i umount /vservers/...; done
1149697430 M * harry tnx :)
1149697480 J * bonbons ~bonbons@83.222.39.166
1149697520 M * harry still... i don't like how it works...b ut it works now...
1149697812 N * sars sarnold
1149699001 Q * Milf Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org
1149699445 J * CoBoLt ~countcobo@d54C498B4.access.telenet.be
1149699447 M * CoBoLt oi
1149700024 J * lilalinux ~plasma@dslb-084-058-204-063.pools.arcor-ip.net
1149701621 M * doener 17:55:21 <harry> gandalf:/usr/local# find . -type f -exec grep cwis {} \;
1149701649 M * doener harry: jsut as a sidenote, that command did just show that some file below /usr/local contains that line
1149701671 M * doener it says nothing about whether that file exists ;)
1149701737 M * doener "that line" being: /usr/local/etc/vservers/cwisdbtest
1149702041 M * harry lol... stupid me :)
1149702042 M * harry true :)
1149702120 J * matti matti@linux.gentoo.pl
1149702206 M * doener harry: about the namespaces, they're cloned from what the host has at the time the vserver is started. the fact that the vserver only sees "his" part is because of good old chroot
1149702241 M * doener we actually have some clean up syscall, but that might/will break util-vserver
1149702247 M * harry gandalf:/usr/local/var/run/vshelper# cat 46
1149702251 M * harry that's the one
1149702254 M * harry can i just remove that?
1149702263 M * daniel_hozac i think we removed the cleanup syscall.
1149702274 M * doener daniel_hozac: was it removed? ok then ;)
1149702279 M * doener it wasn't used anyway
1149702284 M * daniel_hozac right.
1149702299 M * daniel_hozac and waldi wrote a patch for util-vserver that does it in user space.
1149702330 M * harry dudes... is it good to remove /usr/local/var/run/vshelper/46 ?
1149702335 M * harry why is that still there?
1149702374 M * doener it's probably just never removed... I don't think it hurts to remove it...
1149702393 M * harry done!:)
1149702640 J * doener_ ~doener@i5387F17F.versanet.de
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1149703100 J * matti matti@linux.gentoo.pl
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1149703434 J * dna_ ~naucki@dialer-184-232.kielnet.net
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1149708891 J * Hollow ~hollow@home.xnull.de
1149709207 Q * cdrx Read error: Operation timed out
1149709479 J * cdrx ~legoater@cap31-3-82-227-199-249.fbx.proxad.net
1149709981 M * Hollow hey all
1149710012 M * Hollow just wanted to say that i'm off on vacation for a week now
1149710034 M * Hollow so, have a nice week! :)
1149710213 M * CoBoLt hi guys
1149710220 M * CoBoLt a question which is not vserver related
1149710225 M * CoBoLt but no one else seems to answer this
1149710232 M * CoBoLt how do I disable DMA during bootup?
1149710266 M * CoBoLt i tried during boot ide=nodma
1149710347 M * daniel_hozac Hollow: you too!
1149710383 M * Hollow oh, i will indeed have a good week :D
1149710391 M * Hollow but thx
1149710685 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1149710690 M * Bertl evening folks!
1149710713 M * CoBoLt oi bertl
1149710732 M * Bertl CoBoLt: why would you want to disable dma for boot only?
1149710750 M * CoBoLt Well, I need to run a promise pdc202xx_new on an alpha system
1149710767 M * CoBoLt this card fails when load the module with dma on
1149710816 M * Bertl so you probably want to disable dma completely, no?
1149710836 M * CoBoLt uhu
1149710883 M * CoBoLt having lots of problems with ide on alpha
1149710889 M * CoBoLt and can't afford scsi disks 
1149710898 M * CoBoLt just lost 160 GB of data
1149710900 M * CoBoLt :'(
1149710908 M * CoBoLt was running lvm on top of it
1149710911 M * CoBoLt an now :(
1149710956 J * independence ~independe@marcusson.no-ip.com
1149710968 M * Bertl hmm, why would you lose the data just becaus dma doesn't work?
1149710974 M * independence Is it possible to use vrsetup on a loopback device?
1149710995 M * independence I want quota support on my guest system, and I'm using a file as filesystem
1149711003 M * CoBoLt well bertl I was toying to get it working and somehow mounting it screwed the partitioning scheme
1149711007 M * CoBoLt as it was lvm
1149711013 M * CoBoLt it doesn't find the lvm disk anymore
1149711128 M * Bertl well, it is probably easy to repair, unless you already tried to repair it :)
1149711143 M * CoBoLt already tried
1149711144 M * CoBoLt no go
1149711146 M * Bertl independence: sure
1149711157 M * Bertl CoBoLt: that's what I meant :/
1149711168 J * harti ~Hartmut@85-124-100-86.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at
1149711169 M * CoBoLt uhu
1149711300 M * independence Bertl: Ok, I get some errors when I try to do it
1149711307 M * independence I'll post the message
1149711311 M * Bertl okay
1149711338 M * independence saturn independence # vrsetup /dev/vroot2 /vserver.fs
1149711339 M * independence ioctl(): Invalid argument
1149711369 M * Bertl try vrsetup /dev/vroot2 /dev/loop1
1149711401 M * independence Hm, it seemed to work
1149711441 M * independence No error message
1149711682 M * Cocobu hi, i've build a vserver with : vserver lfs build -m skeleton 
1149711710 M * Cocobu then i populate the vserver with : find / -xdev | cpio -pm /srv/vserver/lfs
1149711725 M * Cocobu but when I try to start the vserver it complains about error
1149711725 M * Bertl okay
1149711759 M * Bertl could you upload them to paste.linux-vserver.org please?
1149711768 M * independence Bertl: I still can't use vrsetup on my filesystem /vserver.fs , but it works on /dev/loop1
1149711783 M * Cocobu ok
1149711793 M * Bertl independence: the tool is not designed to 'be used' on filesystem, it's a device proxy
1149711823 M * Bertl so if you use loop1 to mount your fs, then you want to configure it for loop1
1149711853 M * independence how do I use loop1 to mount my fs then?
1149711876 M * Bertl well, you said you mount your filesystem via loop device, no?
1149711893 M * independence I don't know really
1149711910 M * independence I moutn it with "mount /vserver.fs /vservers"
1149711926 M * Bertl and that works?
1149711928 M * independence and "-o loop"
1149711934 M * Bertl ah, here we go
1149711945 M * Bertl well, this 'selects' a loop back device for you
1149711954 M * independence aha
1149711956 M * Bertl you have then to figure which one it actually uses
1149711966 M * Bertl and use the vrsetup on that
1149711973 M * independence Okay
1149711979 M * Bertl or alternatively you could choose it in the first place
1149712033 M * independence choose it seems more reliable, since it's going to be remounted when I reboot?
1149712080 M * Bertl yup, then it's a good idea to break down the mount into
1149712094 M * Bertl losetup /dev/loopX /vserver.fs 
1149712095 M * Bertl and
1149712106 M * Bertl mount /dev/loopX /vservers
1149712133 M * Bertl but may I ask why you chose to use a loop filesystem?
1149712136 M * independence Ok, I'll try to add those lines to my init-script
1149712163 M * independence I don't have a separate partition for vserver-guests
1149712178 M * independence And it quota seemed to require that, I think?
1149712192 M * Bertl ah, yes, that makes sense ...
1149712202 M * independence Puh! :)
1149712211 M * independence I was afraid I made some big mistake there..
1149712212 M * independence :P
1149712220 M * CoBoLt lol just got banned on CentOS :p
1149712230 M * Bertl independence: well, you might want to schedule some repartitioning there ...
1149712237 M * independence Well, thanks for all the help Bertl! You're a really helpful guy (you helped me some other time to)
1149712241 M * independence reportitioning?
1149712252 M * Bertl to improve performance
1149712271 M * Bertl i.e. reduce the 'main' partition and create a guest/vservers partition
1149712294 M * independence But I don't have lvm
1149712335 M * Bertl well, lvm would simplify it, but it's not required to fix unfortunate partitioning
1149712366 M * independence Hm, but the device is a software-raid-thingy too
1149712377 M * independence /dev/md1
1149712400 M * independence It would be really nice to be able to repartition some though..
1149712552 M * Cocobu Bertl, here is the error : http://paste.linux-vserver.org/65
1149712651 M * Bertl Cocobu: try to change the init style to 'plain' (currently sysv)
1149712680 M * Cocobu where do I need to change this ?
1149712700 Q * independence Quit: meep
1149712741 M * Bertl Cocobu: check out the 'Flower Page' for details, it's somewhere in ../apps/init/style
1149712854 M * Cocobu thx it work
1149712924 M * Cocobu oh no, it doesn't work, the vserver lfs start exit with no error
1149712940 M * Cocobu but vserver lfs status says that it is stopped
1149712960 Q * lilalinux Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1149713019 M * Bertl Cocobu: in this case your init inside the guest dies
1149713035 M * Bertl Cocobu: you have to check the logs inside the guest why that is so
1149713046 M * Cocobu the vserver seem to start for some seconds then it stop, i should take a look at my init script inside the guest
1149713098 J * nathan_ ~nathan@c-24-63-24-247.hsd1.ma.comcast.net
1149713115 M * nathan_ Anyone running multiple VLANs in a single vserver container?
1149713151 M * nathan_ I want to bypass the local table, I saw Bert's solutions with NAT but I think I want something a little more transparent. My simple solution is to change the priority of the local table to 100 and bypass with <100.
1149713189 Q * CoBoLt Quit: ("tired")
1149713248 M * Cocobu Bertl, i can't see any logs in the guest ...
1149713351 M * Bertl Cocobu: well, init should log something, especially when it dies
1149713378 M * Bertl Cocobu: double check that the binaries are executable inside the guest, e.g. with chroot
1149713431 M * Cocobu Bertl, yes the binaries are executables
1149713474 J * lilalinux ~plasma@dslb-084-058-239-079.pools.arcor-ip.net
1149713516 M * Bertl so chroot /vservers/lfs /bin/bash works fine?
1149713556 M * Cocobu yes : /srv/vservers/lfs/bin/bash --version
1149713560 M * Cocobu GNU bash, version 3.1.0(1)-release (i686-pc-linux-gnu)
1149713650 M * Bertl ahem, please try with the chroot
1149713710 M * Cocobu yes it works even in the chroot 
1149713718 M * nathan_ Bert, any thoughts on me changing the local table rule from priority 0 to 100?
1149713731 M * Bertl Cocobu: okay, now for the init, why would it fail?
1149713746 M * Cocobu that is the big question ...
1149713764 M * Bertl nathan_: local tables cannot be bypassed with priorities AFAIK
1149713790 M * nathan_ Bert, not at runtime, but at compile time is where I'm leading
1149713802 M * nathan_ one line change seems to give me a great deal of additional functionality
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1149713875 M * Bertl nathan_: hum, well, you can try ...
1149713945 M * nathan_ Bert, I've got a box running it now and it does appear to work correctly, the kernel references the local_rule by address rather than priority 0 so it all appears to work with the simple preference change. I was curious if you saw anything wrong with this solution since you previously addressed it with NAT/ngnet.
1149713997 M * nathan_ just need to patch in rules and tables for specific vlans but that is straight forward once I can short circuit the local table 
1149714070 M * Cocobu Bertl, how can I test my init to see if it work in the vserver ?
1149714198 M * Bertl well, I don't know your init, maybe check the man pages or so for enabling debug stuff?
1149714255 M * Cocobu Bertl, can i try init 3 (for example ) in the chroot  ?
1149714263 M * Bertl you can try to start it with 'chcontext --ctx 100 --flag fakeinit /srv/vservers/lfs/sbin/init ...
1149714280 Q * lilalinux Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1149714293 M * Bertl adjust the ctx 100 to the guest's xid
1149714360 M * Cocobu chcontext --ctx 473 --flag fakeinit /srv/vservers/lfs2/sbin/init 3 doesn't end ..
1149714384 M * Bertl which looks good i.e. it means your init starts properly
1149714398 M * Bertl (at least on the host system)
1149714405 M * Cocobu i can't break it
1149714417 M * Bertl use vkill
1149714478 M * Cocobu ok
1149714529 M * Cocobu i've deleted all the init scripts in the guest
1149714538 M * Cocobu same problem
1149714660 M * Bertl ahem, you probably do not want to delete the init scripts ...
1149714672 M * Bertl they are used to startup the guest services, no?
1149714707 M * Cocobu i mean the initscripts in the vserver host
1149714840 M * Cocobu i don't need any services, i only want to test vserver first then try some services (ssh for example)
1149714939 M * Cocobu sorry, it works when deleting all the init script
1149714942 J * lilalinux ~plasma@dslb-084-058-196-186.pools.arcor-ip.net
1149714951 M * Cocobu there should be some trash in one of them
1149715024 M * Cocobu my host system is 192.168.4.72, my guest is 192.168.4.73
1149715029 M * Cocobu i start vserver
1149715033 M * Cocobu ssh 192.168.4.73
1149715048 M * Cocobu log into and issue ifconfig
1149715060 M * Cocobu it return me 192.168.4.72 ( the host ip )
1149715063 M * Cocobu is it normal ?
1149715121 M * Bertl nope
1149715133 M * Bertl what versions, tools and kernel do you use?
1149715145 M * Cocobu the latest stable versions
1149715169 M * Cocobu vserver lfs2 enter
1149715183 M * Cocobu when in, ifconfig reply the right ip address
1149715256 M * Cocobu on my hosts system ssh is listening on all interfaces
1149715263 M * Cocobu this can be the problem
1149715266 M * Bertl ah, so you probably ssh to the host instead of the guest
1149715288 M * Cocobu but i ssh with the guest ip ...
1149715307 M * Bertl which hasn't had a chance starting an sshd if the host one occupies all ips
1149715319 M * Cocobu ok
1149715338 M * Bertl use the Listen directive to restrict the host sshd
1149715346 M * Bertl the guest will be automatically limited
1149715370 Q * Hollow Remote host closed the connection
1149715458 M * Cocobu ok now i try to stop the guest but it doesn't end, and output no errors
1149715461 M * Cocobu sorry
1149715472 M * Cocobu wrong window
1149715701 M * Cocobu Bertl, you're the boss, it works now
1149716070 M * Bertl okay, great!
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1149718060 M * Bertl okay, off for now .. probably back later ...
1149718065 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
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