1149207040 J * gerrit ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net 1149207307 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1149207320 M * Bertl starlein: yeah, welcome! 1149207408 M * sarnold nice nap Bertl? :) 1149207427 M * Bertl yep, was definitely a good one ... 1149207454 M * Bertl I feel .. like ... like, I could ... TAKE ON THE WORLD :) 1149207463 M * doener uhm... 1149207464 A * doener hides 1149207494 M * sarnold Bertl: ooh. good nap indeed :) 1149207499 M * sarnold hey döner :) 1149207536 M * Bertl .o( smells like utf8 to me :) 1149207550 M * doener hi sarnold 1149207553 M * sarnold Bertl: with a delictible white sauce :) 1149207569 M * Bertl hehe, true, what's up? 1149207602 Q * mef Read error: No route to host 1149207602 M * sarnold nothing at all :) I was just passing through 1149207608 M * doener Bertl: give up, utf-8 is the future, and it helps to make your name look a thousand different ways in a single commit message :) 1149207626 M * sarnold hehehe 1149207632 M * Bertl doener: yeah, I'll probably have to surrender to that ... 1149207704 M * Bertl but for some time I'll stick to iso-8859-1 :) 1149207736 M * Bertl (or -15 for the euro :) 1149208467 M * Bertl any recent suggestions (or older ones I just missed) to add folks to the Hall'o'Fame? 1149208504 M * starlein thanks bertl :) 1149208536 M * Bertl I'm going to add Guenther aka. powerfox for providing the .at domain and updating the wiki (Fedora) 1149208585 M * Bertl so pleas let me know (i.e. please speak up if you think you should be added there :) 1149208804 M * doener Bertl: hm, is bonbons listed there? or does he have to wait until IPv6 stuff is finished? ;) 1149208826 M * Bertl did we really miss him? 1149208857 M * doener I don't remember his real name, so I didn't actually check ;) 1149208923 M * doener at least "ipv6" does not appear on that page 1149208969 M * doener ah, Bruno... whowas actually works here :) 1149209008 M * Bertl Bruno Prémont 1149209029 M * doener yep 1149209039 M * doener anyway, I'm tired and off to bed... have a good one! 1149209052 M * Bertl you too, at least a good sleep :) 1149209150 J * doener_ ~doener@i5387CE79.versanet.de 1149209560 Q * doener Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1149210090 N * sarnold sars 1149212759 J * DarthVader ~Aniken@203.177.212.163 1149212845 M * Bertl welcome DarthVader! 1149213844 J * Nam ~nam@S0106001195551ff0.va.shawcable.net 1149213893 M * Bertl welcome Nam! 1149214129 M * Aiken vxW: !!! limit: fffffc000afd9070[DENTRY,22] = -1202 on exit. 1149214130 M * Aiken vxW: !!! limit: fffffc000a457070[DENTRY,22] = 1131 on exit. 1149214146 M * Aiken Bertl what do you make of dmesg lines like that? 1149214149 M * Bertl yeah, heard about that, great results :) 1149214182 M * Bertl I'd assume your guests share more than inodes here, but maybe it's just a simple accounting bug 1149214260 M * Aiken the LOCKS and nr_uninterruptable lines seemed to be just account bugs 1149214266 M * Aiken they were dealt with yesterday 1149214275 M * Bertl yep, saw the patches 1149214291 M * Bertl the dentry accounting is not supposed to be 100% accurate 1149214307 M * Bertl but it should not be that off either ... 1149214320 M * Aiken maybe that explains why I can not always reproduce some of the results I was getting 1149214346 M * Bertl basically we just 'account' the dentries without tagging them properly 1149214371 M * Bertl (should be enough to have an upper limit, but we probably have to disable the exit checks) 1149214416 M * Aiken vxW: !!! limit: fffffc000a046070[DENTRY,22] = 38 on exit. 1149214422 M * Aiken around that value is quite common 1149214445 M * Bertl yep, basically means that there were 38 dentries still 'used' when the guest exited 1149214471 M * Bertl (usually processes and/or shared libs) 1149214538 M * Aiken find / -type d just gave me fffffc000715e070[DENTRY,22] = 866 on exit 1149214582 M * Bertl inside the guest? 1149214594 M * Bertl i.e. you do search the guest root, yes? 1149214657 M * Aiken that was inside the guest 1149214673 M * Bertl what if you wait, let's say 30 seconds? 1149214690 M * Aiken before I exit the guest? 1149214694 M * Bertl (after the find, but before the exit) 1149214763 M * Aiken dentry = 45 1149214793 M * Bertl okay, so that looks quite fine again 1149215149 J * Aiken_ ~james@tooax6-146.dialup.optusnet.com.au 1149215274 M * Aiken_ apart from those message 2.6.17-rc5.-vs2.1.1-rc21.3 has been working on the alpha 1149215279 M * Aiken_ both cow and non cow 1149215298 M * Bertl excellent, thanks a lot for testing! 1149215472 Q * Aiken Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1149216436 M * matti Bertl: Have a minute? 1149216447 M * Bertl sure, what's up? 1149216847 Q * gerrit Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1149217557 Q * softi42 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1149217569 J * pbryan ~pbryan@S010600095baae0ff.vf.shawcable.net 1149218080 M * Bertl welcome pbryan! 1149218095 M * pbryan Hi Bertl. 1149218176 J * softi42 qxzfbwfx@p549D7576.dip.t-dialin.net 1149224172 Q * starlein Quit: changing servers 1149224790 J * gerrit ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net 1149226247 J * CryptCOM ~spudz0r@CPE-144-136-203-192.sa.bigpond.net.au 1149226420 M * CryptCOM hey folks 1149227110 M * Hollow morning 1149227176 M * CryptCOM hey Hollow, sup? 1149227275 M * Hollow just came home after a short night at a friends *yawn* 1149227288 M * CryptCOM kewl :P 1149227307 M * Hollow right time for coding :) 1149227338 M * CryptCOM heh ;) - im considering upgrading to ubuntu 6.06 server, anyone know if they've got vserver working on it yet? :S 1149227354 M * CryptCOM (it should work the same as the prev. ver's shouldnt it?) 1149227354 M * CryptCOM :P 1149227363 M * Hollow most likely ;) 1149227412 M * CryptCOM :D 1149227434 M * CryptCOM i do get perl errors atm on my current ver, due to locale crap, dunno what thats on about but meh :S 1149227461 M * Hollow try to set your env vars name LANG and LC_* to "C" 1149227466 M * Hollow *named 1149227509 M * Hollow probably it's best to uninstall locales... who the hell needs locales anyway.. 1149227515 M * CryptCOM :P 1149227516 M * CryptCOM hehe 1149227571 M * Hollow that's why i love gentoo... echo > /etc/locales.build && USE="-nls userlocales" emerge foo 1149227572 M * Hollow :o 1149227575 M * Hollow no crap ever. 1149227706 M * CryptCOM kewl :D 1149227708 M * CryptCOM hehe 1149227722 M * CryptCOM yer, i tried installing gentoo once... started from stage 2... took 4 days to compile :S 1149227790 M * Hollow well, once the system is up, it doesn't matter 1149227809 M * Hollow i just run emerge with nice=15 in the background and everything is fine 1149227833 M * CryptCOM yep :P 1149227864 M * Hollow but i agree that this is a major contra for gentoo... 1149227887 M * Hollow especially for older machines ;) 1149227912 M * Bertl you can always build on another machine, no? 1149227919 M * CryptCOM well, i was compiling on a 1.7ghz w/1gb ram and it took that long, hate to think how long it would take on my other pc... (233mhz) LoL 1149227939 M * Hollow Bertl: indeed, distcc is your friend, or if the hardware matches, you can even produce binary packages 1149227954 M * Hollow or even cross compile it 1149227979 M * Hollow guess many people using gentoo on production servers use this method 1149227997 M * Hollow i went the lazy route and let one (scheduled) vserver build all my pkgs ;) 1149228058 M * Aiken_ distcc with a cross compiler works 1149228077 M * Aiken_ if you are desperate you can even add a windows box + cygwin to the mix 1149228087 M * Hollow heh 1149228241 M * CryptCOM gotta find those ubuntu apt repo's :S 1149228243 M * CryptCOM heh 1149228368 M * Hollow Bertl: again, some scheduler questions: 1) bucket id is not used, right? what is the plan for it? 2) on smp systems is there only one bucket per cpu or also a global bucket, and how to adress this bucket? cpuid==0? 1149228401 M * Bertl 1) not used yet, right, we might use that for 'other' token buckets 1149228422 M * Hollow other as in "not scheduler" or alternative schedulers? 1149228437 M * Bertl 2) there is one bucket per cpu, that's it, the 'global' bucket does not exist, but there is a configuration buffer 1149228513 M * Hollow ok, thanks 1149228562 M * Hollow is there a maximum limit of cpus on SMP? 1149228640 M * Bertl hmm, well, yes, but it is somewhere around 4096 or so 1149228654 M * Hollow ok.. ;) 1149228656 M * Bertl but usually we can assume less than 256 1149228692 M * Bertl using cpuid=0 will basically schedule all buckets for update 1149228707 M * Bertl (or was that -1?) 1149228732 M * Hollow the latter would make more sense, else you cannot update cpu 0 1149228748 M * Bertl it's late, you have to check the source code :) 1149228838 M * Hollow ah, only if you add VXSM_CPU_ID to the setmask it will update the cpu given in cpuid, else it will update all 1149228853 M * Bertl good choice :) 1149228856 M * Hollow :P 1149228892 M * Hollow ah.. and on UP the cpuid field is just completely ignored 1149228959 M * Bertl yes, IIRC, I thought about changing that (i.e. making it more SMP compatible) 1149228998 M * Hollow well, it would just change the internal workings, wouldn't it? 1149229061 P * CryptCOM Leaving 1149229133 Q * Hollow Remote host closed the connection 1149229138 J * Hollow ~hollow@home.xnull.de 1149230313 P * pisc1 1149231860 M * Hollow hm, what's the best way to get the number of cpus? 1149232016 J * chelli ~thomas@PC1.ideolabs.TGZ-Ilmenau.de 1149232258 M * daniel_hozac getconf _NPROCESSORS_ONLN? 1149233253 J * ||Cobra|| ~cob@pc-csa01.science.uva.nl 1149233349 J * cdrx ~legoater@cimai.net4.nerim.net 1149234068 M * Bertl okay, I'm off to bed .. have a good one everyone! 1149234074 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1149234106 M * phedny haha 1149234112 M * phedny I'm just outta bed :) 1149234718 J * dna ~naucki@dialer-144-41.kielnet.net 1149235114 J * starlein star@fo0bar.de 1149235545 J * Viper0482 ~Viper0482@p54977387.dip.t-dialin.net 1149235551 M * Hollow daniel_hozac: thx 1149235779 J * Milf ~Miranda@ipsio74.ipsi.fraunhofer.de 1149236396 M * Milf Good day 1149236546 M * Skram wow dude- gotta be up for work in three hours :( 1149237354 N * otaku42_away otaku42 1149238147 N * Nam Namtemp 1149238206 J * nammie ~nam@S0106001195551ff0.va.shawcable.net 1149238647 Q * Namtemp Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1149238961 Q * shedi Quit: Leaving 1149239447 M * bon anyone around with 2.6.16.16 + vs + grsec? 1149239506 M * Hollow bon: harry is your friend 1149239685 M * bon harry: sure? :) 1149239763 M * bon hm 1149239766 M * bon http://ludit.kuleuven.be/software/vserver/ 1149239770 M * bon this seems to be his page, right? 1149239791 M * Hollow no, it was http://harry.ulyssis.org/vserver/ but now requires auth.. maybe some webserver problem 1149239828 M * Hollow but maybe the patches from your url work too ;) 1149239832 M * Hollow i'm not a grsec expert 1149239878 M * Hollow hm, the _README_ says harry, so maybe he moved 1149239895 M * bon i suppose 1149239904 M * bon and he has +32 phone number in his mailinglist postings 1149239908 M * bon so that stands for .be :) 1149239923 M * Hollow heh 1149240182 Q * Loki|muh Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1149240535 M * Milf But .be Addresses can be had freely now, it seems: A friend of mine finally got barmstadt.be registered. 1149240770 J * s0undt3c1 ~s0undt3ch@bl7-247-61.dsl.telepac.pt 1149240919 M * harry i is here 1149240926 M * harry yup, bon , that's the place 1149240936 M * harry i'll make a rc21 patch soon, if you're interested 1149240942 M * harry and for 2.6.16.19 or 20 ;) 1149240947 M * harry depending when 20 comes out :) 1149240958 M * bon cool 1149240964 M * bon any reports of 2.6.16.16 patch? 1149240970 M * bon i suppose you run it yourself 1149240973 M * bon is it rock-stable? 1149240973 M * bon :) 1149240987 M * harry it's working on 3 vserfer servers 1149240989 M * harry vserver 1149241007 M * bon i might give it a try 1149241034 M * harry we didn't have any problems here... so i think it's quite stable :) 1149241056 M * harry it's the latest and greatest grsec 1149241090 M * harry btw. harry.ulyssis.org doesn't exist anymore... they disabled my account 1149241107 A * harry gonna set up a collocated server on which i will run vserver too ;) 1149241111 M * derjohn harry, heh? I thought you are the admin ;) 1149241126 M * harry derjohn: not anymore... it's a student "playground" 1149241143 M * harry ludit.kuleuven.be/software/vserver is a server i admin 1149241157 M * harry (in fact, most webservers that are in 134.58-range :) 1149241176 M * harry derjohn: and, to be honest, i rooted the ulyssis webserver twice ;) 1149241187 M * bon lol 1149241203 M * harry but just for fun, and to make them aware of the serious security holes (they're still friends... :)) 1149241206 M * derjohn for monitoring purposes i neet soem kind of .. hm .. daemon that simply listens to requests on a certain port. it doesnt have to do anything , just listening ... what kind of tool/daemin could I use? 1149241232 Q * s0undt3ch Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1149241254 M * derjohn harry, on the uni i've been, one of my friend rooted the whole campus arounf 1996 ... they not only disabled his account ;) 1149241259 M * harry derjohn: nc 1149241272 M * derjohn harry, nc in "server mode" ? 1149241310 M * harry you could also use inetd :) 1149241317 M * harry and echo > file 1149241321 M * derjohn harry, whats about stability ? The the thing goes down, the webserver will be disabled automatically ... 1149241322 M * harry as cmd :) 1149241331 M * derjohn thats and IDEA , yes ! 1149241351 A * derjohn on a different shell now ! :) 1149241359 M * harry or: nohup nc -l > file & 1149241367 M * harry there's your nc daemon 1149242199 M * derjohn harry, cool, the inetd approach runs :) [but i cannot create that > file, but that's of no concenr now ] 1149242279 M * harry just script it then :) 1149242286 M * harry dont script it with >, but use >> 1149242292 M * harry it will give you more logs :) 1149242642 M * derjohn harry, OMG even more logs ! :) 1149243242 Q * gerrit Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1149243286 J * FireEgl ~FireEgl@2001:5c0:84dc:1:3987:ea97:7a6f:401a 1149243502 J * mana ~mana@bravo387.server4you.de 1149243541 M * mana well .. 1149243557 M * mana hello #vserebr people :) 1149243560 M * mana (be right back) 1149244132 M * mana back again 1149244202 M * mana ehm and i want to be a fool for a minute or even longer because i have a problem with my vserver's on Gentoo 1149244222 J * shedi ~siggi@dsl-og-108-50.du.vortex.is 1149244271 M * mana hello shedi 1149244306 M * mana i continue describing my problem: 1149244325 M * mana i use sys-kernel/vserver-sources-2.0.1-r5 1149244341 M * mana and sys-cluster/util-vserver-0.30.210-r13 1149244384 M * shedi hello mana 1149244399 M * mana i have two vservers running without problems 1149244416 M * mana i used the official gentoo-howto for linux-vserver 1149244442 M * mana but now with the third vserver that i create from my template the problem persists when i try to start the vserver 1149244452 M * mana chroot-shopen("/etc/mtab"): No such file or directory - and others 1149244518 M * mana i searched for long but found no solution for this issue :-( 1149244659 M * mana well please tell me if u need more information ... i have a big debug at my hand ;) (btw, first time on irc, please be gentle :D) 1149244669 M * mana (going for coffee) 1149244689 M * Hollow mana: you're probably missing some dirs in you're vserver root filesystem, or it is not even mounted 1149244801 M * mana you mean i miss /etc on my root? ;)) 1149244808 M * Hollow vserver root 1149244829 M * mana ehm, vserver root is the template i use? no? 1149244852 M * mana but why do the other two vservers i use run without those problems? 1149244854 M * Hollow /vservers// is the root of vserver 1149244865 M * glen_ hello 1149244880 M * mana hello glen 1149244904 M * glen_ looks like that vnamespace cleanup patch cleaned also up host mounts 1149244930 M * mana ok, i enter /vserver/ 1149244935 M * mana ls 1149244939 M * mana bin boot dev etc fastboot home lib mnt opt proc root sbin sys tmp usr var 1149244971 M * mana now i enter /vserver/ 1149244972 M * mana ls 1149244976 M * mana apps cache context cpuset fastboot fstab interfaces name run uts vdir 1149244981 M * mana that looks very different 1149244991 M * mana i created both vservers with the vserver-new script 1149244994 M * Hollow that looks like a /etc/vservers/ directory 1149245017 M * Hollow maybe it is a link? 1149245025 Q * cdrx Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1149245081 M * mana the dir /vservers/ is no link ... i checked but i realy get redirectedt to the /etc/vservers/ 1149245082 M * mana strange 1149245135 M * Hollow well, either it is a link (redirect), or a copy 1149245139 M * mana ls -la /vservers 1149245150 M * mana drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 142 Jun 2 12:00 vmysql <-- the problamtic vserver 1149245174 M * Hollow is this reproducable? (i.e. with vserver-new) 1149245206 M * mana i tryed vserver-new sereval times with different context and vserevr-names 1149245232 M * mana should i create a new vserver with the script? 1149245255 M * mana it looks like a "hidden" link or somewhat .. a mount with -bind would redirect me that way 1149245272 M * Hollow well, if vserver-new creates not working guests reproducable i need to fix it 1149245297 M * mana aha :) that sounds promising. how can i help? 1149245361 M * Hollow first, let's verify it again: everytime you create a vserver with vserver-new it creates a not-working vserver, right? 1149245392 M * mana not everytime beacause the two running vservers have been created in the same way some time ago 1149245424 M * Hollow maybe you updated util-vserver meanwhile.. can you paste the command line of your vserver-new? 1149245441 M * mana but now i fail to create another working vserver 1149245461 M * mana you mean the command i use to create a vserver, right? 1149245493 N * s0undt3c1 s0undt3ch 1149245495 M * Hollow right 1149245502 M * mana i tried the newest release oof util-vserver and compiled it by myself but only after those problems occured. 1149245526 M * Hollow well, yes.. 1149245534 M * Hollow you can't mix the vserver-new script with vanilla util-vserver 1149245563 M * mana vserver-new vmysql --hostname vmysql --context 1303 --interface dummy0:192.168.1.4/24 template ./gentoo-template.tar.bz2 x86 1149245573 M * mana okay, i will reemerge util-vserver from gentoo then 1149245582 M * Hollow why did you compile it manually? 1149245625 M * mana because i though your version was neweer than the version in portage :) i am sorry 1149245635 M * Hollow my version? 1149245642 M * Hollow my version is the one in gentoo 1149245661 M * Hollow beside that i don't consider it my version 1149245678 M * Hollow just some patches for gentoo 1149245735 M * mana i donwloaded from 13thfloor.at 1149245743 M * Hollow yep, that's vanilla 1149245764 M * mana ah i see. i will stick to "your" gentoo-version then :) 1149245796 M * Hollow we are always up to date in gentoo with vserver 1149245798 M * Hollow ;) 1149245802 M * mana reemerged. i will try another vserevr now? 1149245807 M * mana thet is very good to hear :DD 1149245808 M * Hollow yep 1149245815 M * mana vserver is great 1149245886 M * mana vserver-new vtest --hostname vtest --context 1304 --interface dummy0:192.168.1.5/24 template ./gentoo-template.tar.bz2 x86 1149245893 M * mana successfull 1149245898 M * Hollow great! 1149245914 M * mana now lets have a look at /vservers/vtest 1149245932 Q * DarthVader Quit: Leaving 1149245940 M * mana apps cache context cpuset fstab interfaces name run uts vdir 1149245942 M * mana sigh 1149245972 M * Hollow can you check if it is a bind mount? 1149245988 M * mana is calling "mount" sufficent for that? 1149246003 M * Hollow i wouldn't rely on that... cat /proc/mounts 1149246039 M * mana ok, did that. no /vserver paths in there 1149246130 M * Hollow mana: can you paste the output of "ls -li /vservers/vtest /etc/vservers/vtest"? 1149246135 M * Hollow best to paste.linux-vserver.org 1149246141 M * Hollow no lengthy pastes to irc 1149246161 M * mana ok i will look at this. what a service is that? :) 1149246180 M * Hollow a pastebin i setup for linux-vserver.org, just like pastebin.com or phpfi.com 1149246204 M * mana nice :) 1149246271 M * mana posted with my username :) 1149246307 Q * nebuchadnezzar Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1149246321 M * Hollow mhm.. 1149246346 M * mana take your time .. i am completely happy with your IRC support :o) 1149246411 M * Hollow hm.. did you by any chance tar /etc/vservers/gentoo-template to gentoo-template.tar.bz2? 1149246430 M * mana mhhhhhhhh 1149246461 M * mana stupidity knows no frontiers .. i will unzip the template and we will see .. 1149246467 M * Hollow :) 1149246481 M * Hollow it looks like, because it is neither a link, nor a copy 1149246499 M * Hollow (can be seen on the inode in the first colum, the size and the destination of the links) 1149246545 M * mana ehm right ... blame on me .. oh damn 1149246567 M * mana well that was fools half hour. i am sorry 1149246577 M * Hollow doesn't matter, happens :) 1149246621 M * mana :) thank you very much. I will stay in here for a while 1149246656 M * Hollow you're welcome! feel free to ping me (especially about gentoo issues) at any time 1149246662 M * Hollow i'm not alyways looking at irc 1149246674 M * mana lik /ping yourname? 1149246691 M * Hollow no, just write my nick, and my irc will notify me that you said my name 1149246697 M * Hollow like: Hollow: ping 1149246814 M * mana thanks 1149247484 J * cdrx ~legoater@cap31-3-82-227-199-249.fbx.proxad.net 1149248033 M * derjohn off-topic: Can anyone give me advice how to setup "#forks" on a apache2 (highly loaded system, but much resources)? Is 500 forks a sane value? 1149248213 M * mana whu what a system is that? ;) 1149248254 M * mnemoc a sane action is to stop using apache for such system :p 1149248261 M * mana when the load is high, i doubt that more forks will increase performance - workload is workload. 1149248446 Q * chelli Quit: chelli 1149248450 Q * Viper0482 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1149248564 J * DarthVader ~Aniken@203.177.212.163 1149248648 M * doener_ gug 1149248688 M * mana hallo doener ;) 1149248734 M * Hollow mana mana dadibidibi 1149248741 M * derjohn mnemoc, mana , well, 4 GIG / Athlon 3800+ , I just do a load-test via hammerhead and 500 concurrent threads (i.e. simultanous requests) 1149248743 M * mana lol 1149248746 M * Hollow ;) 1149248766 M * Hollow just came to my mind ;) 1149248776 M * derjohn (no make it more complicated, I have two of them with a pound based loadbalancer in front ....) 1149248790 M * mana i often get to hear that song on chats :P 1149248820 M * mana hehe thats what i wanted to suggest, to loadbalance things .. but i dont know about the overhead .. 1149248845 M * doener_ hm, your nick makes me think of good old SNES times... Secret of Mana aka Seiken Densetsu 1149248869 M * mana well catually that game is where i got that nickname from :D 1149248889 M * doener_ excellent :) 1149248892 J * Viper0482 ~Viper0482@p5497743D.dip.t-dialin.net 1149248898 M * mana wiiiiiiiiiii good old snes times 1149248904 M * mana hello Viper 1149248915 M * mana many germans in here it seems 1149248923 M * mana t-dialin ;) 1149248933 M * doener_ nah, wii is the new one ;) (does anyone beside me think that "wii" is a really stupid name?) 1149248953 M * Hollow wiid 1149248955 M * doener_ anyway, getting off topic... 1149248957 M * mana no. everybody thinks it .. but its nice to shout out. 1149248963 M * mana yes. 1149248969 M * mana (back to work) 1149248980 M * Hollow yes, work is fun 1149248996 M * mana cough indeed, sometimes 1149248999 M * Hollow i already tested the whole vxdb backend today, yay! 1149249001 M * mnemoc derjohn: anyway you should consider to use something like lighttpd and to split static and dynamic content 1149249052 M * doener_ I'll give schizonet another try... 1149249075 M * mana thats allways a good idead .. with 4 gig ram most frequent content should lie in your ram and overhead is very small 1149249101 M * derjohn mnemoc, it's not my decision. to complicate things more: there is a tomcat as jsp behing the apache, which uses mod_proxy to access the tomcat ;) 1149249110 M * derjohn (that why we need to loadbalance aqnyway) 1149249127 M * Hollow buah.. java 1149249137 M * Hollow poor derjohn 1149249162 M * doener_ ok, so there are about 384MB left for other things *g* 1149249166 A * derjohn slaps Hollow for not liking the most elegant language ever :) 1149249181 A * Hollow giggles 1149249200 A * doener_ thinks that derjohn has never seen any other language ;) 1149249208 M * Hollow most elegant lanuage is assembler 1149249209 M * Hollow :P 1149249214 M * eyck which assembler? 1149249220 M * derjohn Hollow, *lol* 1149249232 M * Hollow eyck: doesn't matter 1149249250 M * derjohn doener_, hehe ... do perl and eiffel count? 1149249250 M * eyck hmm, oh I think it does, those are completely differnt languages 1149249266 M * Hollow eyck: has nothing to do with the point that i was making sarcasm.. 1149249280 M * doener_ derjohn: perl is no fair comparison if you aim for elegance, and I've never seen eiffel, so I can't comment on that 1149249284 M * derjohn Hollow, sarcasm? 1149249296 M * eyck hmm, uh? 1149249302 M * derjohn :) 1149249305 M * Hollow better: irony 1149249320 M * eyck oh, ok, let's have it your way 1149249365 M * Hollow yes, eyck is like debian 1149249428 M * doener_ hey, /me likes debian 1149249428 M * Hollow who cares 1149249431 M * Hollow :P 1149249467 M * Hollow hm.. 1149249490 M * eyck preveeed 1149249497 M * Hollow why do only i see notices? 1149249503 M * Hollow don't you have queires? 1149249504 M * Hollow ;) 1149249517 M * doener_ I've been surprised when I installed the util-vserver package lately, the init-script that comes with it is actually really nice 1149249519 M * Hollow and i even don't like queires 1149249542 M * Hollow i even can't spell them! 1149249557 M * eyck what are queires, some kind of flavour of kapueira? 1149249565 M * eyck btw, how do you spell kapueira? 1149249578 A * Hollow yawns 1149249596 M * eyck oh, capoeira 1149249601 M * eyck Hollow is dangerous 1149249615 M * Hollow indeed 1149249873 J * meandtheshell ~markus@85-124-206-156.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at 1149249938 M * derjohn Hollow, you practice capoeira? 1149250008 M * Hollow lol 1149250009 M * Hollow no 1149250013 M * Hollow sport ist mord 1149250020 M * Wonka hrhr 1149250036 M * Hollow nevertheless, i'm dangerous 1149250037 M * Hollow ;) 1149250046 M * Wonka why did i just think of rishatra? 1149250410 M * mana ah .. irc modes .. i was invisible? 1149250431 M * mana <-- noob 1149250524 M * Hollow mana: i saw your last words ~25 minutes ago 1149251081 M * mana yes thats correctt :) 1149251109 M * mana i just saw the option in kirc, but i guess that means that i am visible in the userlist now .. whatever 1149251187 M * mana back to the topic :D .. is it a good idea to mount the /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock of one vserver into another vserver? so that communication between mysql and apache can be established via unix-sockets? 1149251558 M * mnemoc that's evil 1149251831 J * jpduyx ~jpduyx@a82-93-83-131.adsl.xs4all.nl 1149251869 M * derjohn Hollow, dangerous? Sleepy Hollow ;) 1149251907 M * mana what is evil? 1149251945 M * Hollow derjohn: heh, though my nick has nothing to di with it ;) 1149251959 M * harry when will there be a rc22 ? 1149251972 M * harry cus i see quite a lot of patches after rc21 1149251981 M * mana there is a very nice calm KDE wallpaper called "dark hollow" its very relaxing i think :D 1149252024 M * Hollow well, my curtains are always closed, so it's like a hollow in here 1149252027 M * Hollow ;) 1149252030 M * Hollow it's relaxing too 1149252048 M * harry sleepy hollow! 1149252058 M * mana well .. a relaxing friday for me as well .. compiling 75 packages -.- 1149252062 Q * Aiken_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1149252123 M * mana but you know what? my opensuse 10.1 takes much longer to install packages then gentoo needs to compile and install them ... thats ill 1149252210 M * Hollow lol!! 1149252290 M * matti LOL 1149252319 M * doener_ that's what I call a ChangeLog entry: + Doesn't suck (closes: #365581) 1149252329 M * matti LOL 1149252330 M * mana ? 1149252334 M * matti doener_: Heheh. 1149253045 M * Wonka *g* 1149254875 M * tokkee /proc/virtual//cacct does not seem to be very accurate - my traffic of about 2.5 GB today pretty much does not show up at all. Did anybody realize anything similar already? 1149255194 J * mire ~mire@70-167-222-85.COOL.ADSL.VLine.Verat.NET 1149255364 M * mana hello mire 1149255373 M * mire hi :) 1149255955 J * gerrit ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net 1149256593 Q * DarthVader Quit: Leaving 1149257189 Q * mana Quit: using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12 1149257195 J * pisco ~pampel@p5087A2C7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1149257677 Q * pisco Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1149257742 Q * kaner Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1149258254 J * pisco ~pampel@p5087A613.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1149258417 J * mattr_sf ~matt@p50885483.dip.t-dialin.net 1149258422 Q * DreamerC Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1149258695 J * DreamerC ~dreamerc@59-112-22-42.dynamic.hinet.net 1149258729 Q * micah Quit: leaving 1149258743 J * micah ~micah@208.99.202.72 1149258757 Q * micah Quit: 1149258796 J * micah ~micah@208.99.202.72 1149258797 Q * pisco Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1149258911 J * kaner kaner@strace.org 1149258974 Q * micah Quit: 1149259080 J * micah ~micah@208.99.202.72 1149259096 Q * micah Quit: 1149259383 P * pbryan 1149259447 Q * mattr_sf Quit: Leaving 1149259677 Q * gerrit Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1149259905 M * daniel_hozac tokkee: really? 1149260181 M * daniel_hozac tokkee: if you have vserver debugging enabled, echo $((2**7)) > /proc/sys/vserver/debug_net should log a message every time something is accounted... 1149260263 J * Blissex ~Blissex@82-69-39-138.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk 1149260366 J * gerrit ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net 1149260697 M * tokkee daniel_hozac: Hmmm... I don't have any chance right now, to enable debugging :-/ 1149260792 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1149260797 M * Bertl morning folks! 1149260812 M * tokkee Morning Bertl. 1149260814 M * meandtheshell Bertl: morning 1149260820 M * Bertl hey tokkee! meandtheshell! 1149260838 M * Bertl tokkee: traffic from where to where? and where do you look for it? 1149260839 J * nebuchadnezzar ~nebu@zion.asgardr.info 1149260849 M * Bertl welcome nebuchadnezzar! 1149260893 M * tokkee Bertl: (HTTP)Traffic from the guest to a remote host. 1149260924 Q * shedi Quit: Leaving 1149260972 M * Bertl tokkee: okay, and the 2.5GB is on-wire traffic measured how? 1149260973 M * tokkee Bertl: My apache2 logs of that host tell me that there were about 2.5 GB of outgoing traffic while /proc/virtual//cacct gives me something like that: http://tokkee.org/cgi-bin/collection.cgi/vserver-42097/traffic/inet 1149261003 M * mire hey, sometimes when I start vserver everything freezes and only a restart helps 1149261010 M * tokkee Bertl: http://tokkee.org/cgi-bin/collection.cgi/traffic/eth0 that about what it should look like... 1149261048 M * daniel_hozac mire: too many caps/devices? 1149261068 M * Bertl what do you plot there? i.e. could you provide the output of /proc/virtual//cacct for me and tell me what you account here? 1149261075 M * mire I didn't have lo in vserver (ifconfig) so I added it by hand... maybe thats why? 1149261092 M * daniel_hozac "added it by hand"? 1149261108 J * pisco ~pampel@p50878ADA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1149261126 Q * ||Cobra|| Remote host closed the connection 1149261133 M * mire yes, I converted old style config to new style using a script and it only created eth0 alias without lo (127.0.0.1) 1149261139 M * mire so I added a new interfaces lo 1149261164 M * daniel_hozac what makes you think you want 127.0.0.1 assigned to the guest? 1149261164 M * mire /usr/local/etc/vservers/rh9/interfaces 1149261189 M * mire mire@zwer:/usr/local/etc/vservers/rh9/interfaces$ cat 1/dev 1149261190 M * mire lo 1149261231 M * mire well I guess vserver should see both his ip and 127.0.0.1 1149261237 M * daniel_hozac why? 1149261275 M * mire well if you look at any linux distro all of them have lo, and why wouldn't you have lo in your vserver? 1149261284 M * tokkee Bertl: http://nopaste.info/index.php?id=cc661c2797 ... I'm using the value after the '/', interpret it as bytes and feed it into an rrd-file. 1149261286 M * daniel_hozac because lo is not isolated yet? 1149261303 M * mire ok, if lo makes problems I will remove it 1149261355 M * mire thank you :) 1149261417 M * tokkee Bertl: Hmmm... the third column in /proc/virtual/.../cacct is errors, isn't it?... Maybe I should graph that, too... 1149261587 M * Bertl maybe, what about apache, does it use sendfile? 1149261598 M * daniel_hozac yeah. 1149261633 M * Bertl I guess we do not account sendfile (yet)? 1149261682 M * tokkee What is sendfile? 1149261714 M * tokkee Also adding failed to the graph does not really change anything... 1149261801 M * Bertl just for a test, could you request a file of 'known' size, e.g. 10MB or so 1149261817 M * Bertl an check the counters before and afterwards? 1149261820 M * tokkee Sure. 1149261834 M * Bertl and once do it via http and a second time via https? 1149261845 J * stefani ~stefani@tsipoor.banerian.org 1149261853 M * Bertl welcome stefani! 1149261855 M * tokkee Okay. 1149261882 M * Bertl should be large enough to detect it in the noise, or on a different guest 1149261889 M * stefani hello Bertl. so i'm behind, i did not realise nfs is working in vserver. 1149261921 M * Bertl stefani: hehe :) well, folks seem to have troubles 'mounting' it inside a guest (will investigate this soon) 1149261950 M * Bertl but once mounted it works quite fine and if the server is patched too, it also supports xid tagging over nfs 1149262123 J * mkhl ~mkhl@200-148-41-109.dsl.telesp.net.br 1149262131 M * Bertl wb mkhl! 1149262170 M * tokkee Bertl: before: 2211085/934461197 after http: 2211197/934509439 after https: 2212286/941488765 1149262214 M * harry Bertl: when is rc22 due? ;) 1149262217 M * tokkee http - before = 48242 https - http = 6979326 1149262246 M * tokkee Bertl: Shouldn't https - http be at least 10,000,000? 1149262266 M * tokkee Bertl: The file was exactly 10MB. 1149262347 M * Bertl harry: any special reason? or just curious? :) 1149262366 M * harry just curious 1149262373 M * Bertl probably tonight ... 1149262374 M * harry i see a lot of delta's agian 1149262379 M * harry after rc21 ;) 1149262384 M * Bertl yep, correct 1149262446 M * harry mkay, then i'll just wait to make a new grsec + vserver patch 1149262451 M * harry until rc22 is ther 1149262452 M * harry e 1149262494 M * tokkee Well... need to go now. 1149262495 M * tokkee Cya. 1149262497 Q * morrigan Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1149262510 M * harry bye tokkee 1149262513 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: anything in your queue, except for the lcok/unintr patches? 1149262518 M * Bertl tokkee: okay, tx, cya! 1149262531 M * daniel_hozac no. 1149262677 M * mire another problem here, I can't su to any user account or ssh to any account 1149262688 M * mire I guess its pam problems but I don't know how to fix it 1149262690 M * Bertl what error do you get? 1149262743 M * mire Jun 2 11:38:51 rh9 sshd(pam_unix)[10749]: session opened for user mire by (uid=0) 1149262744 M * mire Jun 2 11:38:51 rh9 pam_loginuid[10749]: set_loginuid failed opening loginuid 1149262744 M * mire Jun 2 11:38:51 rh9 pam_loginuid[10749]: set_loginuid failed 1149262763 M * Bertl try to remove loginuid from your pam config 1149262773 M * Bertl btw, what kernel version is that? 1149262897 M * mire Linux zwer 2.6.16.17-vs2.1.1-rc21mire4 #4 PREEMPT Fri May 26 12:32:45 CEST 2006 i686 GNU/Linux 1149262903 M * mire still doesn't work 1149262908 M * mire Jun 2 11:41:18 rh9 sshd(pam_unix)[10865]: session opened for user mire by (uid=0) 1149262908 M * mire Jun 2 11:41:18 rh9 sshd(pam_unix)[10865]: session closed for user mire 1149262930 M * mire I can only login as a root user 1149262951 M * Bertl but the user exists, and has proper permissions to his home? 1149262955 M * mire yeah 1149262961 M * mire and .ssh/authorized_keys2 1149262976 M * Bertl 'su - mire' does fail? 1149263008 M * mire yes 1149263013 M * mire here is ssh debug: 1149263016 M * mire Last login: Fri Jun 2 11:41:18 2006 from rh9.beast.kom 1149263016 M * mire debug1: client_input_channel_req: channel 0 rtype exit-signal reply 0 1149263016 M * mire debug1: channel 0: free: client-session, nchannels 1 1149263016 M * mire Connection to rh9 closed. 1149263048 M * Bertl let's check with the 'su - mire' and run it through strace -fF -o su.trace 1149263068 M * Bertl then please make the output (su.trace) available somehow 1149263127 M * mire just a sec. 1149263144 M * Bertl np, no need to hurry ... 1149263258 M * mire http://rafb.net/paste/results/BvHN7d69.html 1149263343 M * Bertl hmm, permission denied on /proc/self/exe 1149263448 M * mire can I fix it? 1149263464 M * Bertl sec still checking ... 1149263560 M * Bertl just to make sure, let's check the basic functionality with testme.sh please 1149263599 M * Bertl http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/SCRIPT/testme.sh 1149263730 M * mire http://rafb.net/paste/results/1fYiJr99.html 1149263737 M * Milf Bertl: can you say anything of the overhead of a VServer-based multiseat system compared to a multiseat system without using VServer 1149263764 M * Bertl Milf: probably the latter is a little slower :) 1149263767 M * Milf The question is whether the VServer-based solution can share the libs needed for the different X server. 1149263791 M * Milf Bertl: Why that? 1149263811 M * harry waaaaaaaaaaaaa... /me needs rc22 now! ;) 1149263817 M * harry Bertl: hurry :p 1149263836 A * Milf needs sugar. 1149263885 M * mire Bertl, so, can I fix this? 1149263901 N * Milf Milf-short-trip-to-coke-machin 1149264251 J * lilalinux ~plasma@dslb-084-058-210-139.pools.arcor-ip.net 1149264277 N * Milf-short-trip-to-coke-machin Milf 1149264334 Q * Viper0482 Quit: bin raus, 1149264415 A * Milf thinks . o O { Bertl has reached fatal Multi-tasking limit and encountered a kernel panic.} 1149264731 J * micah ~micah@208.99.202.72 1149265127 M * Bertl Milf: hehe, nah, just had a network outage ... 1149265146 M * Bertl welcome micah! 1149265160 M * Bertl mire: do you use static contexts for your guests? 1149265224 M * mire Bertl, how can I check that? 1149265248 M * Bertl what context ids does vserver-stat show for your guest? 1149265262 M * mire root@zwer:- /lib - vserver-stat 1149265262 M * mire CTX PROC VSZ RSS userTIME sysTIME UPTIME NAME 1149265262 M * mire 0 148 1.2G 547.1M 16m14s84 5m30s39 2h50m23 root server 1149265262 M * mire 49152 40 1.3G 155.9M 10m03s32 1m10s25 2h48m45 rh9 1149265270 M * Bertl ah, here we go :) 1149265294 M * Bertl please add a file named 'context' with a static id (2-49151) to your config 1149265314 M * Bertl e.g. echo 42 >/etc/vservers/rh9/context 1149265330 M * Bertl stop the guest before doing so and restart it afterwards 1149265407 M * mire echo '2-49151' > /usr/local/etc/vservers/rh9/context? 1149265431 M * Bertl ahem, well, if 2-49151 is only _one_ number, then yes :) 1149265450 M * Bertl e.g. echo 42 >/usr/local/etc/vservers/rh9/context 1149265474 M * Bertl or if you prefer then 666 or any other number between 2 and 49151 :) 1149265560 Q * mire Quit: Leaving 1149265771 M * Milf Bertl: do you have time to talk about my question. I got asked a lot of questions by the c't editor I spoke to, that particular one was one neither Zeng nor I could really answer. 1149265781 J * mire ~mire@70-167-222-85.COOL.ADSL.VLine.Verat.NET 1149265841 M * mire it doesn't work 1149265913 M * mire 42 35 1.2G 146.4M 0m11s86 0m01s92 3m38s90 rh9 1149265945 M * mire it gives the same messages as before... 1149265991 M * Bertl okay, let's try something else now, do you ahve an user on the host (except for root)? 1149265998 J * Kipps ~k@CPE-60-226-59-28.qld.bigpond.net.au 1149266010 M * Bertl welcome Kipps! 1149266018 M * Kipps gday 1149266029 M * mire Bertl, yes, I have a user called mire :) 1149266030 M * Kipps thought i'd idle i nhere for a bit, see how far vserver has come since i last used it =) 1149266127 M * Milf Bertl: do XServers in VServers share their libs? Or would that be an advantage of a non-vserver multiseat setup? 1149266132 M * Bertl mire: okay, your guest (rh9) is in /vservers or /usr/local/vservers ? 1149266160 M * Bertl Kipps: feel free to do so! you might ask questions now and then too :) 1149266170 M * mire /vservers 1149266191 M * Bertl Milf: depends on the setup, if they are unified, they will share the libs 1149266193 M * mire but config is in /usr/local/etc/vservers 1149266210 M * Bertl mire: okay, now try the following 1149266222 M * Bertl cd /vservers/rh9 1149266233 M * Milf Even in system Memory? 1149266255 A * Milf should have attended an OS lecture instead of DB lecture at uni. 1149266257 M * Bertl mire: chroot /vservers/rh9 /bin/su - mire 1149266273 M * Bertl Milf: yes, same inode, same cache, same mapping :) 1149266288 M * Milf kewl 1149266299 M * mire Bertl, done that 1149266308 M * Bertl so I assume it did work then? 1149266309 M * Milf So all I need to do is build the setup myself so I know what I'm talking about 1149266318 M * mire Bertl, it didn't, same as before 1149266340 M * Bertl okay, but just /bin/su - mire works, yes? 1149266350 M * mire yes 1149266357 M * mire chroot didn't work 1149266365 M * Bertl okay, then let's do it this way: 1149266382 M * Bertl cd /vservers/rh9 ; /bin/su - mire 1149266391 M * Bertl then do 'ls' 1149266420 M * mire thats my home dir but not in rh9 but in the main box 1149266431 M * Bertl but that works, yes? 1149266433 M * mire yeah 1149266435 M * Milf bye now. 1149266454 M * Bertl mire: now let's try 'cd /vservers/rh9; ls' 1149266460 M * Bertl (as user mire) 1149266474 Q * Milf Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org 1149266486 M * mire yes, I'm in that dir 1149266495 M * Bertl and it works quite fine too, yes? 1149266500 M * mire yep, 1149266512 M * mire but I'm not chrooted, I'm just user mire 1149266520 M * Bertl yeah, that's fine 1149266633 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: any ideas? 1149266703 M * Bertl mire: do you get that everytime or just now? 1149266723 M * mire just now, I've put centos 4.2 on debian 1149266732 M * mire everything works except for this 1149266741 M * Bertl with a debian guest it works fine? 1149266748 M * mire yes 1149266751 M * mire I think so 1149266759 M * Bertl that's quite interesting ... could you try that? 1149266770 M * Bertl maybe do a simple network install for that? 1149266822 M * Bertl * vserver foo build -m debootstrap --hostname vs.foo.org --netdev eth0 --interface 192.168.3.1/21 --context 42 -- -d sarge -m ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian 1149266828 Q * jpduyx Remote host closed the connection 1149266836 M * Bertl change the 42 to something else here 1149266931 M * mire ok, trying 1149266944 M * mire I'll be here in about 20mins. 1149266949 M * Bertl okay, np 1149267015 J * pbryan ~pbryan@206.191.98.218 1149267024 M * Bertl welcome pbryan! 1149267031 M * pbryan Hi Bertl. 1149267036 M * pbryan Are you a bot perchance? 1149267335 M * derjohn pbryan, set this bot on your ignore list .... 1149267345 M * pbryan It is a bot? 1149267353 M * derjohn pbryan, .. and you wont get the best information ever :) 1149267356 M * Bertl pbryan: hehe :) 1149267358 M * pbryan lol 1149267376 M * derjohn pbryan, Bertl ist our lead developer^W kernel guru. 1149267394 M * pbryan Ah. Bertl, I apologize for confusing you for automation. 1149267415 M * Bertl np, I also develop un-lead-ed stuff ... 1149267484 M * pbryan While I have the big guns' ear... 1149267501 M * Bertl do you mind asking a question? 1149267538 M * pbryan What would it take you think for vserver to allow transferring of running VPS from one running kernel to another? I believe OpenVZ has such a capability... 1149267563 M * Bertl yes, it's called live migration, and we do not do it for several reasons 1149267631 M * Bertl one reason is, that it only makes sense for a scheduled maintainance situation, in which case you can get the same result with much less efford by using Xen plus a single dumU with Linux-VServer 1149267646 A * pbryan chews on that for a second. 1149267663 M * Bertl without adding the overhead and weakening system stability 1149267678 M * pbryan Linux-VServer inside of Xen domU? 1149267694 M * Bertl yep, work quite fine, runs perfectly, can migrate live :) 1149267701 M * pbryan And I presume Xen 3 because I think that's when Xen began sporting such a feature. 1149267719 M * pbryan Okay, but then this incurs the overhead of virtualized kernel, no? 1149267728 M * Bertl well, the migration was there in earlier versions too, but yes, that might be a good choice (3.0) 1149267761 M * Bertl pbryan: yes, but only once, i.e. host kernel (dom0) + Linux-VServer kernel (omU) 1149267765 M * Bertl *domU 1149267784 M * pbryan The other good reason for such migration is allowing server to be relocated to normalize system utilization (not just scheduled maintenance). 1149267812 M * pbryan Well, once for each VPS instance you wanted to be able to migrate live. 1149267812 M * Bertl well, that doesn't work that well, because the migration itself is very resource intensive 1149267842 M * Bertl we will address this case soon with a real cluster solution 1149267900 M * pbryan Alright. Just curious. Seems like the only feature that has VS not be parity with OpenVZ. Not that it matters to me in particular -- the bar that has to be overcome for me is a stock Debian kernel that supports the virtualization. Linux-VServer passes with flying colors. 1149267950 M * Bertl ah, yeah, debian even has kernel sources for all possible mixes of Xen and Linux-VServer 1149267985 M * Bertl one major difference between Linux-VServer and OpenVZ is probably that we try to be as light-weight as possible 1149268013 M * Bertl (without giving up upon nice to have features :) 1149268023 M * pbryan Yes, the linux-image-xen-vserver-... kernels are interesting. 1149268024 N * sars sarnold 1149270126 M * Wonka only problem i have with them: are they dom0 or domU? 1149270134 M * Wonka they cannot be both, afaik. 1149270145 M * Wonka and there's only one of them inside. 1149270242 J * shedi ~siggi@inferno.lhi.is 1149270592 M * Bertl the dom0 version doesn't make much sense IMHO 1149271000 M * Wonka maybe 1149271016 M * Wonka but i didn't see any dom0 kernel in a debian package 1149271233 M * mire Bertl, hello it works with debian network install 1149271248 M * mire but centos 4.2 vserver does not work 1149271336 M * mire I don't have any idea about what to do... except to try some other virtual machine like xen or vmware 1149272162 M * Blissex mire: vserver is not a virtual machine... 1149272741 Q * mkhl Quit: 1149272746 M * mire Blissex, sorry for that 1149272875 M * Bertl mire: very strange, will investigate ... 1149272911 M * Bertl okay, off for now ... back later ... 1149272915 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1149273180 J * _mcp ~hightower@wolk-project.de 1149273182 Q * shedi helium.oftc.net strange.oftc.net 1149273182 Q * pbryan helium.oftc.net strange.oftc.net 1149273182 Q * mire helium.oftc.net strange.oftc.net 1149273182 Q * micah helium.oftc.net strange.oftc.net 1149273182 Q * pisco helium.oftc.net strange.oftc.net 1149273182 Q * nebuchadnezzar helium.oftc.net strange.oftc.net 1149273182 Q * gerrit helium.oftc.net strange.oftc.net 1149273182 Q * DreamerC helium.oftc.net strange.oftc.net 1149273182 Q * s0undt3ch helium.oftc.net strange.oftc.net 1149273182 Q * nammie helium.oftc.net strange.oftc.net 1149273182 Q * meandtheshell helium.oftc.net strange.oftc.net 1149273182 Q * starlein helium.oftc.net strange.oftc.net 1149273182 Q * softi42 helium.oftc.net strange.oftc.net 1149273182 Q * sladen helium.oftc.net strange.oftc.net 1149273182 Q * hallyn helium.oftc.net strange.oftc.net 1149273182 Q * mcp helium.oftc.net strange.oftc.net 1149273182 Q * bubulak helium.oftc.net strange.oftc.net 1149273182 Q * VAndreas helium.oftc.net strange.oftc.net 1149273182 Q * Greek0 helium.oftc.net strange.oftc.net 1149273182 Q * mugwump helium.oftc.net strange.oftc.net 1149273185 N * _mcp mcp 1149273253 J * s0undt3ch ~s0undt3ch@bl7-247-61.dsl.telepac.pt 1149273508 J * hallyn_ ~xa@adsl-75-2-107-131.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net 1149273508 J * shedi ~siggi@inferno.lhi.is 1149273508 J * mire ~mire@70-167-222-85.COOL.ADSL.VLine.Verat.NET 1149273508 J * pisco ~pampel@p50878ADA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1149273508 J * nebuchadnezzar ~nebu@zion.asgardr.info 1149273508 J * DreamerC ~dreamerc@59-112-22-42.dynamic.hinet.net 1149273508 J * meandtheshell ~markus@85-124-206-156.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at 1149273508 J * nammie ~nam@S0106001195551ff0.va.shawcable.net 1149273508 J * softi42 qxzfbwfx@p549D7576.dip.t-dialin.net 1149273508 J * Greek0 ~greek0@85.255.145.201 1149273508 J * mugwump ~samv@watts.utsl.gen.nz 1149273557 Q * DreamerC Remote host closed the connection 1149273567 Q * shedi Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1149273597 Q * mire Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1149273607 Q * Greek0 Read error: Connection reset by peer 1149273621 Q * nammie Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1149273672 J * VAndreas ~Hossa@212.110.98.7 1149273745 J * sladen_ paul@starsky.19inch.net 1149273796 J * micah ~micah@208.99.202.72 1149273797 J * mugwump_ ~samv@watts.utsl.gen.nz 1149273797 J * bubulak_ ~bubulak@cicka.wnet.sk 1149273797 Q * bubulak_ helium.oftc.net strange.oftc.net 1149273797 Q * mugwump_ helium.oftc.net strange.oftc.net 1149273797 Q * micah helium.oftc.net strange.oftc.net 1149273797 Q * mugwump helium.oftc.net strange.oftc.net 1149273797 Q * softi42 helium.oftc.net strange.oftc.net 1149273797 Q * meandtheshell helium.oftc.net strange.oftc.net 1149273797 Q * pisco helium.oftc.net strange.oftc.net 1149273797 Q * hallyn_ helium.oftc.net strange.oftc.net 1149273797 Q * nebuchadnezzar helium.oftc.net strange.oftc.net 1149273856 J * shedi ~siggi@inferno.lhi.is 1149273856 J * starlein ~star@fo0bar.de 1149273856 J * DreamerC ~dreamerc@59-112-22-42.dynamic.hinet.net 1149273856 J * mire ~mire@70-167-222-85.COOL.ADSL.VLine.Verat.NET 1149273856 J * Greek0 ~greek0@85.255.145.201 1149273856 J * bubulak_ ~bubulak@cicka.wnet.sk 1149273856 J * mugwump_ ~samv@watts.utsl.gen.nz 1149273856 J * micah ~micah@208.99.202.72 1149273856 J * pisco ~pampel@p50878ADA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1149273856 J * nebuchadnezzar ~nebu@zion.asgardr.info 1149273856 J * meandtheshell ~markus@85-124-206-156.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at 1149273856 J * softi42 qxzfbwfx@p549D7576.dip.t-dialin.net 1149273856 J * mugwump ~samv@watts.utsl.gen.nz 1149273857 J * hallyn ~xa@adsl-75-2-107-131.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net 1149273871 J * nammie ~nam@S0106001195551ff0.va.shawcable.net 1149273902 Q * mugwump Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1149273930 J * gerrit ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net 1149274468 Q * kaner Write error: connection closed 1149274469 J * kaner kaner@strace.org 1149274488 N * nammie Nam 1149275039 J * Viper0482 ~Viper0482@p5497743D.dip.t-dialin.net 1149275167 Q * Hunger Server closed connection 1149275204 J * Hunger Hunger.hu@213.163.11.138 1149276323 Q * Viper0482 Quit: bin raus, 1149276439 P * stefani I'm Parting (the water) 1149276588 J * morrigan morrigan@212.16.62.52 1149276901 N * sladen_ sladen 1149277449 Q * cdrx Quit: Leaving 1149277720 Q * sladen Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1149278043 J * Loki|muh loki@satanix.de 1149278056 J * sladen paul@starsky.19inch.net 1149278675 Q * mire Quit: Leaving 1149279149 J * bonbons ~bonbons@83.222.39.166 1149280950 Q * lilalinux Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1149282168 Q * Blissex Remote host closed the connection 1149282547 Q * gerrit Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1149283208 J * gerrit ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net 1149283835 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1149289947 Q * nebuchadnezzar Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1149290316 Q * kaner charon.oftc.net venus.oftc.net 1149290316 Q * FireEgl charon.oftc.net venus.oftc.net 1149290698 P * meandtheshell 1149290908 J * FireEgl Atlantica@2001:5c0:84dc:: 1149291030 J * kaner kaner@strace.org 1149291162 Q * dna Quit: Verlassend 1149292124 M * harry hey aaaaaaaaaal 1149292125 M * harry l 1149292130 M * harry no rc22 yet? ;) 1149292238 M * doener_ heh :) 1149292496 Q * nox Server closed connection 1149292499 M * harry hmmmmm... dying fetus++ 1149292508 J * nox ~nox@noxlux.de 1149292523 M * harry hahaaaaa... luckily nox didn't get the chance to read that! :p 1149292663 M * starlein http://pastebin.com/754619 1149292668 M * starlein oops? too fast forks? 1149292702 M * starlein saw it first time today, running vs2.01.