1149120519 M * daniel_hozac http://daniel.hozac.com/vserver/test-flock.c and check /proc/virtual//limit when it tells you to. 1149120953 M * daniel_hozac between the first and the second check, it should increase by one, and between the second and third check, it should decrease by one. 1149121012 M * Aiken the LOCKS line? 1149121016 M * daniel_hozac right. 1149121017 M * Aiken 0/ 1 1149121024 M * Aiken 0/9223372036854775807 1149121058 M * doener O.O 1149121065 M * daniel_hozac is that after the second one? third one? 1149121107 M * Aiken 1st is 0/0, 2nd 0/1 and 3rd 0/9223372036854775807 1149121149 M * daniel_hozac are you looking at the current column? 1149121163 M * daniel_hozac that looks more like min/max. 1149121188 M * Aiken whoops 1149121201 M * Aiken current 0 0 then -1 1149121241 M * daniel_hozac hmm, so it never increases. ok. 1149121401 M * doener I'm off to bed... have a good one! 1149121403 Q * doener Quit: leaving 1149121445 M * daniel_hozac http://daniel.hozac.com/vserver/delta-flock-fix01.diff does that fix it? 1149121685 M * daniel_hozac hmm, interesting, this seems to be an issue in 2.6.16 too. 1149122129 M * Aiken seems to have dealt with LOCKS 1149122159 M * daniel_hozac so now when you run test-flock you get 0 1 0? 1149122250 M * Aiken yes 1149122260 M * daniel_hozac great! 1149122310 M * daniel_hozac seems to fix it on 2.6.16 as well. 1149122601 Q * brc Quit: [BX] Everybody was Kung Fu fighting! 1149123281 M * daniel_hozac so that leaves DENTRY (which i don't think we can really fix), and a non-reproducible NOFILE, correct? 1149123454 M * Aiken I have not seen the NOFILE message for a couple of hours 1149123529 M * Aiken and I just got Jun 1 10:57:59 localhost kernel: vxW: !!! limit: fffffc000afd9070[DENTRY,22] = 20 on exit 1149124954 M * Aiken vxW: !!! limit: fffffc000a27a070[DENTRY,22] = -705 on exit. 1149124963 M * Aiken vxW: !!! limit: fffffc000068f070[DENTRY,22] = 751 on exit. 1149125062 M * Aiken the 751 count was triggered by find / -type d in the guest 1149125521 N * sarnold sars 1149126174 J * DarthVader ~Aniken@203.177.212.163 1149126706 Q * cohan Remote host closed the connection 1149126713 J * cohan ~cohan@koniczek.de 1149126858 J * yelifu ~hongdanst@202.38.114.129 1149126865 M * daniel_hozac yeah, that's expected. 1149126918 M * Aiken what the -705? 1149126962 M * daniel_hozac no, the 751. -705 looks very strange. 1149126970 N * MrX Googolplex 1149127078 N * Googolplex MrX 1149127185 M * Aiken -671 1149127196 M * daniel_hozac how do you get the negative values? 1149127321 M * Aiken trying to work that out 1149127348 M * daniel_hozac are you just restarting the guest after one of your find / runs and not doing anything? 1149127375 M * Aiken no 1149127422 M * Aiken installing a package of mine that has 460 files, 1 gets compiled, a tar ball is created, file and directories are copied 1149127432 M * Aiken trying to do a test case that gives the same results 1149127548 J * brc bruce@201.19.95.79 1149127705 M * Aiken not doing it now :( 1149128128 J * Surfer15 ~javachat@cpe-24-58-111-163.twcny.res.rr.com 1149128128 A * Surfer15 is a visitor from http://www.CustomSignGenerator.com where you can find silly Web 2.0 graphic & ecard makers (example parody site from http://www.WHAK.com comedy search engine) =) 1149128128 T * Surfer15 -=[ http://i.cannot.undo.it ]=- Make Web 2.0 comic strips on http://www.ComicStripGenerator.com =) 1149128185 Q * Surfer15 Quit: 1149128186 T * daniel_hozac http://linux-vserver.org/ | latest stable 2.01, 1.2.10, 1.2.11-rc1, devel 2.1.0, exp 2.{0.2,1.1}-rc21 | util-vserver-0.30.210 | libvserver-1.0.2 & vserver-utils-1.0.3 | He who asks a question is a fool for a minute; he who doesn't ask is a fool for a lifetime -- share the gained knowledge on the wiki, and we'll forget about the minute ;) 1149128847 Q * mire Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1149128954 J * Aiken_ ~james@tooax6-162.dialup.optusnet.com.au 1149129224 J * mire ~mire@15-167-222-85.COOL.ADSL.VLine.verat.net 1149129312 Q * Aiken Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1149129440 Q * yelifu Quit: 1149129787 M * s0undt3ch daniel_hozac: why not set the channel to +t to protect the topic? 1149130897 Q * softi42 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1149131524 J * softi42 zcpdszk@p549D7B08.dip.t-dialin.net 1149133897 Q * dsoul Remote host closed the connection 1149133900 J * dsoul darksoul@vice.ii.uj.edu.pl 1149134364 N * otaku42_away otaku42 1149134606 M * otaku42 moin 1149134653 M * otaku42 question: is there a way to get scripts executed _on the host_ when a vserver is brought up/down? 1149134703 M * otaku42 the idea is to automatically add/remove iptable rules for port forwarding and other stuff that is needed for some of my vservers 1149135582 Q * gerrit Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1149136326 J * pbryan ~pbryan@S010600095baae0ff.vf.shawcable.net 1149136336 M * pbryan May I start a flamewar? 1149136363 M * Skram haha 1149136374 M * pbryan OpenVZ... 1149136415 M * pbryan I believe it has a feature to migrate a running VPS from one VZ instance to another. 1149136427 M * pbryan Any comparable feature in Linux-VServer? 1149137213 Q * blizz Remote host closed the connection 1149137214 J * blizz ~blizz@evilhackerdu.de 1149138077 M * Skram whats an easy way to scan a block (/24) and see which ips arent being used? 1149138356 Q * MrX Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1149138728 Q * pbryan Quit: Leaving. 1149140836 M * otaku42 Skram: there are tools available for this task, but you can write a small shell-script that pings each IP in the subnet in question and lets you know which of the IPs are not in use. 1149140849 M * Skram i did soemthing 1149140853 M * Skram nmap -sP 1149140890 M * otaku42 Skram: to be sure you could additionally check the arp table to see for which IPs there have been ARP replies. maybe some of the hosts don't react on pings 1149140952 J * yelifu ~hongdanst@202.38.114.129 1149140991 M * Skram ok 1149140993 M * Skram yeah 1149140995 J * yarihm ~yarihm@84-73-119-78.dclient.hispeed.ch 1149141254 M * yelifu My vserver gast was assigned a address when install, how to change it now? Using chbind? 1149141271 M * yelifu My vserver gast was assigned a IP address when install, how to change it now? Using chbind? 1149141551 M * yelifu I changed the ip mannuly in /etc/vservers//interfaces/ip, but after guest startup, the network didn't start 1149142156 M * yelifu My vserver gast was assigned a IP address when install, how to change it now? Using chbind? 1149142184 A * Hollow sighs 1149142189 M * Skram heh 1149142192 M * Skram <3 Hollow 1149142195 M * Skram Im about to hit the sack 1149142199 M * Skram have to be up early as usual 1149142232 M * Hollow night Skram :) 1149143222 M * otaku42 question: is there a way to get scripts executed _on the host_ when a vserver is brought up/down? i could use that for automatically adjusting the firewall rules on the host when a vserver goes up/down. 1149144445 J * gerrit ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net 1149145542 J * cdrx ~legoater@cimai.net4.nerim.net 1149145638 J * dna ~naucki@dialer-140-38.kielnet.net 1149145827 Q * yelifu Remote host closed the connection 1149146669 J * ||Cobra|| ~cob@146.50.22.204 1149147535 J * yelifu ~hongdanst@202.38.114.129 1149149813 J * falk_ ~falk@gw.dbaudio.com 1149149931 M * falk_ hi everybody 1149149994 M * falk_ I still have trouble with networkmounts within a guest ... 1149150027 M * falk_ I insert the following into /etc/vserver/*/fstab: 1149150079 M * falk_ backup://backup /mnt/ nfs defaults,ro,auto 0 0 1149150130 M * falk_ without this entry the guest is up in 1 second... 1149150233 M * falk_ with mount but without portmap the guest take 1:45 minutes... 1149150291 M * falk_ with portmap on guest and/or v_portmap on host it takes also 1:45 minutes 1149150374 M * falk_ but with portmap on host (bind to all interfaces by default) it takes 11 seconds... 1149150462 M * falk_ have anybody an explanation ? 1149150481 M * falk_ how can i solve this problem ? 1149151724 Q * kir Read error: Connection reset by peer 1149151753 J * kir ~kir@swsoft-mipt-nat.sw.ru 1149151823 J * _coocoon_ ~coocoon@p54A07C32.dip.t-dialin.net 1149151976 M * _coocoon_ morning 1149151983 M * falk_ morning 1149152131 J * MJS ~mjs@ppp167-208-58.static.internode.on.net 1149152231 M * falk_ has everybody experience with networkmounts within guests ? 1149152233 M * MJS Just a quicky, have been googeling for a little bit and havn't had the answer I'm after jump out at me :) ... Is it possible to limit the maximum amount of ram a Vserver can use? STrike that, I know it's p[ossible, but I'm not sure how to implement. 1149152258 M * MJS falk: you mean NFS? 1149152267 M * falk_ yes 1149152280 M * falk_ I insert the following into /etc/vserver/*/fstab: 1149152283 M * falk_ backup://backup /mnt/ nfs defaults,ro,auto 0 0 1149152287 M * falk_ without this entry the guest is up in 1 second... 1149152290 M * falk_ with mount but without portmap the guest take 1:45 minutes... 1149152296 M * falk_ with portmap on guest and/or v_portmap on host it takes also 1:45 minutes 1149152302 M * falk_ but with portmap on host (bind to all interfaces by default) it takes 11 seconds... 1149152306 M * falk_ have anybody an explanation ? 1149152311 M * falk_ how can i solve this problem ? 1149152343 M * MJS Try using the IP instead 1149152361 M * MJS maybe it's having issue resolving the hostname, which is what is causing the delay 1149152394 M * MJS Are you using kernel level NFS or user space? 1149152437 M * falk_ i will try it 1149152455 M * falk_ kernel module isn't loaded 1149152489 M * falk_ how can i check if it is kernel or usernfs 1149152565 M * MJS good question, I've never used the kernel NFS so not sure. 1149152659 M * falk_ i mean it's not an resolving-problem 1149152782 J * pisco ~pampel@p508798E2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1149152810 M * falk_ real 1m45.134s 1149152825 M * falk_ it takes still to long :-( 1149153014 M * falk_ do everybody have other ideas, how I can mount nfs ? 1149153105 Q * kir Read error: Connection reset by peer 1149153115 Q * pisco Quit: Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/ 1149153123 J * kir ~kir@swsoft-mipt-nat.sw.ru 1149153140 J * pisco ~pampel@p508798E2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1149153198 M * _coocoon_ falk: u know this link http://linux-vserver.org/NFS+and+portmap 1149153397 M * falk_ i know this url ... but this dont help in this case 1149153446 M * _coocoon_ falk: u have also read the bug report 1149153549 M * falk_ i'm not sure ... but i mean it discribes the case of a nfs-server within a guest, or ? 1149153669 Q * MJS Quit: Hey! Where'd my controlling terminal go? 1149153700 M * pisco hello out there, i've looked arround the doc's, and the 'flower' page, but was confusing about aply cpu and memory limits. anybody experienced in this matter? 1149153737 M * falk_ sorry, i can't help you pisco 1149155475 J * MJS ~mjs@ppp167-208-58.static.internode.on.net 1149155761 M * MJS Sorry to repeate, but I got disconnected before anyone could answer last time ... I am trying to work out how to set a maximum amount of ram for a given vserver instance ... have been looking around with Google, but nothing has jumped out at me yet. 1149155796 M * MJS If anyone could please point me in the diection of a document on this subject, it would be hugely appreciated. 1149155832 Q * cdrx Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1149155859 M * MJS I think Ulimit might be the key here ... but not sure how 1149156165 P * pisco 1149156313 M * Hollow MJS: resource limits on 2.6, ulimits on 2.4 1149156345 M * Hollow http://linux-vserver.org/Resource+Limits 1149156499 J * cdrx ~legoater@70-33-118-80.kaptech.net 1149157025 Q * shedi Quit: Leaving 1149157317 J * ascorbicacid ~ascorbic@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net 1149157324 M * ascorbicacid hey guys 1149157331 M * ascorbicacid someone in my channel keeps posting this 1149157335 M * ascorbicacid do you knoww hat it means 1149157338 M * ascorbicacid startkeylogger 1149157339 M * ascorbicacid DCC SEND "string" 0 0 0 1149157339 Q * gerrit Read error: Connection reset by peer 1149157339 Q * dna Read error: Connection reset by peer 1149157339 Q * DarthVader Read error: Connection reset by peer 1149157342 M * ascorbicacid ? 1149157343 M * Adrinael Yes, stop it. 1149157347 M * ascorbicacid huh? 1149157362 J * dna ~naucki@dialer-140-38.kielnet.net 1149157364 J * DarthVader ~Aniken@203.177.212.163 1149157373 M * ascorbicacid stop what? 1149157376 M * ascorbicacid startkeylogger 1149157378 M * ascorbicacid ? 1149157378 M * ascorbicacid or 1149157380 M * Adrinael Saing those lines 1149157381 M * ascorbicacid DCC SEND "string" 0 0 0 1149157382 Q * dna Read error: Connection reset by peer 1149157382 Q * DarthVader Read error: Connection reset by peer 1149157382 M * ascorbicacid ? 1149157386 M * ascorbicacid why? 1149157393 J * gerrit ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net 1149157403 J * DarthVader ~Aniken@203.177.212.163 1149157405 J * dna ~naucki@dialer-140-38.kielnet.net 1149157407 M * Adrinael You know, otherwise you wouldn't go around all the channels in the world using tor to abuse people with buggy firewalls. 1149157422 M * ascorbicacid huh? 1149157463 M * ascorbicacid i don't know what you mean, ad. 1149157485 M * ascorbicacid i don't see what's wrong with pasting 1149157485 M * ascorbicacid DCC SEND "string" 0 0 0 1149157485 Q * gerrit Read error: Connection reset by peer 1149157485 Q * dna Read error: Connection reset by peer 1149157486 Q * DarthVader Read error: Connection reset by peer 1149157486 M * ascorbicacid or 1149157486 M * ascorbicacid startkeylogger 1149157486 M * ascorbicacid i just wonder whta they're for. 1149157489 M * Adrinael I mean a certain dude has come to all the channels I am in, using tor, to spill out those lines. 1149157502 M * ascorbicacid what dude? 1149157508 M * Adrinael And they are strings certain buggy firewalls detect, think the connection has a trojan acting around, and closes it. 1149157508 J * DarthVader ~Aniken@203.177.212.163 1149157509 J * dna ~naucki@dialer-140-38.kielnet.net 1149157511 M * Adrinael You. 1149157518 Q * weeble Quit: Leaving 1149157541 M * ascorbicacid ad, do you have asperger's? 1149157557 J * gerrit ~gerrit@67.160.146.170 1149157662 Q * cdrx Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1149157675 M * ascorbicacid DCC SEND "string" 0 0 0 1149157675 Q * gerrit Read error: Connection reset by peer 1149157675 Q * dna Read error: Connection reset by peer 1149157675 Q * DarthVader Read error: Connection reset by peer 1149157677 M * ascorbicacid ? 1149157693 M * Adrinael Stop it. 1149157697 J * dna ~naucki@dialer-140-38.kielnet.net 1149157710 M * ascorbicacid stop what? 1149157717 J * DarthVader ~Aniken@203.177.212.163 1149157723 M * Adrinael Stop spewing those lines. 1149157732 M * ascorbicacid what lines? 1149157734 M * ascorbicacid DCC SEND "string" 0 0 0 1149157734 Q * dna Read error: Connection reset by peer 1149157734 Q * DarthVader Read error: Connection reset by peer 1149157734 M * ascorbicacid ? 1149157744 M * Adrinael Can someone kick that dude already? 1149157746 J * gerrit ~gerrit@67.160.146.170 1149157758 J * dna ~naucki@dialer-140-38.kielnet.net 1149157773 J * DarthVader ~Aniken@203.177.212.163 1149157832 J * lilalinux ~plasma@dslb-084-058-238-158.pools.arcor-ip.net 1149157910 M * ascorbicacid ad, talk to me baby. 1149157915 M * ascorbicacid DCC SEND "string" 0 0 0 1149157915 Q * dna Read error: Connection reset by peer 1149157915 Q * DarthVader Read error: Connection reset by peer 1149157937 J * dna ~naucki@dialer-140-38.kielnet.net 1149157940 J * DarthVader ~Aniken@203.177.212.163 1149157969 J * gerrit_ ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net 1149158397 Q * gerrit Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1149158573 M * MJS ¨ 1149158798 Q * yelifu Quit: 1149158931 J * pisco ~pampel@p508798E2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1149158935 P * pisco 1149158979 M * Hollow lol, i know why i never install these damn firewalls, you never ever need them! 1149158984 J * pisco ~pampel@p508798E2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1149159044 M * sid3windr yea, it's truly 31337 to come online through tor and try to be the smartass on irc. :) 1149159070 M * MJS Majorly confused now, found a few pages with Google about memory allocation with Vserver ... and now Ièm more confused than when I started. 1149159113 M * MJS All I want to do is limit one particular vserver instance (which is running Tomcat) so it doesnèt go over 1GB of ram. 1149159150 M * Hollow MJS: there is no "ram" option in resource limits, RSS and ANON are settings for memory 1149159247 M * pisco MJS , ca you give a hint how to set f.e. 200 MB and / or cpu ressources? 1149159289 M * pisco do say a page is 4096. But what? bit? 1149159298 M * pisco sorry, meant doku 1149159324 M * MJS rlimit_rss, rlimit_memlock and rlimit_as llook to be the relivent parts ... 1149159356 M * Hollow right, i missed AS 1149159404 M * Hollow hm, seems like linux-vserver.org is down? 1149159446 M * sid3windr takes a while to resolve, then stuck at connecting, so it seems yep 1149159447 M * MJS yeah, is down from here too 1149159455 M * MJS am using google caches of pages 1149159461 M * sid3windr hmm 1149159464 M * pisco not here .. 1149159466 M * sid3windr works fine from the box I'm ircing from 1149159489 M * sid3windr but breaks at level3 in NY from my work connection 1149159525 M * Hollow too bad bertl is n/a 1149159582 M * pisco MJS, doku say's '... typically PAGE_SIZE = 4096.' Bytes? 1149159611 M * Hollow pisco: yes 1149159618 M * Hollow a page is normally 4k 1149159622 M * Hollow sometimes 8k 1149159740 M * harry pisco: on i386... 1149159789 M * pisco ok, what about /etc/vservers/vs27/rlimits/cpu ' amount of cpu time in seconds' what does it mean for cpu limit? copareable to an Hz? 1149159888 M * pisco imagine y have a 1GHz machine and want aply a limit of 10% of cpu usage to the vserver at may 1149159891 M * pisco max 1149159951 M * Hollow pisco: then you can use the scheduler with fillrate = 1 and interval = 10 1149159978 M * Hollow the cpu time is not a very significant value 1149160005 M * pisco ok,whats the better way to limit cpu? 1149160009 M * Hollow scheduler 1149160040 M * pisco http://linux-vserver.org/CPU+Scheduling very empty ;) 1149160065 M * Hollow sec, have to look for the google cache.. ;) 1149160109 M * pisco no, the page ist not down from here, bot this artikle is now written yet 1149160110 M * Hollow http://linux-vserver.org/Scheduler+Parameters 1149160122 M * pisco ok 1149160147 M * Hollow hm 1149160158 M * Hollow i get the feeling that everyone who adds info to the wiki creates a new page 1149160198 M * pisco so back to mem, have i set rss as and memlock to the same value? 1149160245 M * Hollow no idea, i'm not a memory expert.. 1149160338 M * pisco MJS: have i set rlimit_rss, rlimit_memlock and rlimit_as to the same value i.e. for setting a limit of 200MB=51200 with 4k pagesize? 1149160383 M * MJS Pisco: not sure yet, still trying to figure this out. 1149160469 J * Viper0482 ~Viper0482@p549755AB.dip.t-dialin.net 1149160626 Q * MJS Quit: Hey! Where'd my controlling terminal go? 1149160663 M * daniel_hozac otaku42: /etc/vservers//scripts/{post,pre}-{stop,start} 1149160745 M * otaku42 daniel_hozac: ah, great, thanks a lot for the hint 1149161001 M * daniel_hozac pisco: you really don't want to set them to the same value. 1149161050 M * daniel_hozac i have several guests where the RSS:AS ratio is 1:80. 1149161216 J * cdrx ~legoater@cap31-3-82-227-199-249.fbx.proxad.net 1149161617 J * liquid3649_ ~Viper0482@p54977387.dip.t-dialin.net 1149161845 Q * liquid3649_ Quit: 1149161862 J * liquid3649_ ~Viper0482@p54977387.dip.t-dialin.net 1149162039 Q * liquid3649_ Quit: 1149162047 Q * Viper0482 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1149162362 Q * Aiken_ Quit: Leaving 1149163627 J * Milf ~Miranda@ipsio386.ipsi.fraunhofer.de 1149163643 M * Milf good $GENERIC_WAKEUPTIME 1149163888 Q * yarihm Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1149165270 M * [PUPPETS]Gonzo Like Phil Collins - Wake up call? 1149165976 J * wam ~wigwam@proxy1.msh.de 1149166226 Q * eyck Read error: Connection reset by peer 1149166227 J * eyck eyck@ghost.anime.pl 1149166578 J * Viper0482 ~Viper0482@p54977387.dip.t-dialin.net 1149167403 J * doener ~doener@i5387C2CE.versanet.de 1149167556 M * doener morning 1149168038 M * Hollow morning doener 1149168046 M * Hollow just saw you're using versatel.. 1149168062 M * Hollow are you content with it? 1149168357 M * doener yep... only a single problem since september last year (major hardware defect, got fixed in the middle of the night), bandwidth is fine, real isdn line (no VoIP only stuff) 1149168384 Q * falk_ Quit: Leaving 1149169052 J * shedi ~siggi@dsl-og-108-50.du.vortex.is 1149169187 Q * gerrit_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1149169277 M * doener Hollow: btw, how was your exam? 1149169385 M * Hollow doener: sounds good, if i go to berlin, i'll most probably take versatel 1149169395 M * Hollow doener: was ok.. ;) 1149169429 M * doener heh 1149169437 M * Milf What did you get examined on? 1149169468 M * Hollow maths, economics & english in written form, physics orally 1149169579 J * alex_ ~alex@ram94-3-82-224-48-80.fbx.proxad.net 1149169581 M * Milf Abitur? 1149169609 M * Hollow indeed 1149169611 M * Hollow ;) 1149169636 M * Milf And you're in the channel and not getting royally drunk? 1149169639 M * Milf :) 1149169654 M * Hollow no, i do not drink :) 1149169663 M * Hollow since 31/12/04 1149169690 M * Hollow .oO( THC tut keinem weh ) 1149169695 M * Milf Oh, gave up a habit. Congrats. 1149169717 M * alex_ hi, i've install some vserver on my box and I just show that the source ip used is the one of the host box and not the one i setup in the vserver 1149169736 M * Hollow hide_netif in cflags? 1149169748 M * doener hm, after Abitur exams, me and a friend bought 10 litre beer and had a major Quake session (and probably some other games, I don't remember that much of those two days...) 1149169758 M * Hollow doener: hehehe 1149169797 M * doener Hollow: hm, does hide_netif affect source address selection? 1149169824 M * Hollow doener: dunno.. only thing i know about it is that it hides network interfaces not belonging to the guest 1149169838 M * Hollow oh 1149169840 J * gerrit_ ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net 1149169840 M * Hollow source ip 1149169843 M * Hollow damn it 1149169847 M * Hollow n/m 1149169899 M * daniel_hozac alex_: iptables? 1149169921 M * alex_ daniel_hozac, no i'm not using it 1149169995 M * daniel_hozac how do you determine that the address is that of the host? what version are you using? 1149170081 M * alex_ daniel_hozac, I'm using the debian package (unstable version) 1149170084 M * Hollow off for now.. back later! 1149170094 M * alex_ util-vserver 0.30.210-10 linux-image-2.6.16-1-vserver-686 1149170168 M * alex_ I test it with a telnet from a vserver to a host outside; I laund tcpdump on the server side and I show the ip of the vserver host box 1149170259 M * daniel_hozac so tcpdump on the host shows the packets leaving with the host's address? 1149170406 M * alex_ the tcpdump on the vserver host box; show the same source ip is the one of the vserver host box insteand of the one of the vserver 1149170455 M * daniel_hozac and iptables -t nat -nvL gives you three empty chains? 1149170484 M * harry gandalf:/etc/iproute2# ip route add 134.58.241.0/24 dev eth2 table 134.58.241-net 1149170484 M * daniel_hozac how did you assign the IP address to the guest? with --interface on the vserver ... build command line? 1149170487 M * harry RTNETLINK answers: File exists 1149170488 M * harry ploink? 1149170518 M * daniel_hozac harry: i guess the route already exists. 1149170592 M * harry how do i check? 1149170596 M * alex_ daniel_hozac, there was one but it was for an other network 1149170599 M * harry ip rule show doesn't give me anything 1149170603 M * daniel_hozac ip route list table 134...? 1149170614 M * harry same with ip route ls table 134.58.241-net 1149170616 M * harry etc... 1149170616 M * daniel_hozac alex_: what? 1149170633 M * harry no output 1149170671 M * harry (there is no network cable plugged in... is that the problem? 1149170673 M * alex_ daniel_hozac, I've 2 ips interfaces on 2 networks, I had setup an iptables in a first time to have the net on those host 1149170700 M * alex_ and the paquets all gone by this route 1149170732 M * daniel_hozac alex_: so your guest has two IP addresses? 1149170746 M * alex_ but route -n inside my vserver say me that my defaut gateway is not the IP which is iptabled 1149170748 M * daniel_hozac harry: i was under the impression the table id was a number. 1149170800 M * daniel_hozac alex_: your guests use the same routing tables as the host, unless you've set up source address routing. 1149170829 M * harry daniel_hozac: true 1149170863 M * harry gandalf:/etc# grep 102 /etc/iproute2/rt_tables 1149170863 M * harry 102 134.58.241-net 1149170882 M * alex_ hallyn, I've nothing 1149170895 M * alex_ harry, I've nothing 1149170932 M * alex_ but I know, I just realize that the gateway I should use is different of the gateway that the vserver host box used 1149170986 M * Milf Where Do I find the script to copy into /etc/init.d? 1149171024 J * kaner kaner@strace.org 1149171033 M * kaner [PUPPETS]Gonzo: :) 1149171055 M * [PUPPETS]Gonzo hi kaner, welcome 1149171062 M * daniel_hozac Milf: vservers-default? 1149171069 M * kaner ah english? 1149171080 M * [PUPPETS]Gonzo milf: Do you know if there is some documentation of zengs system yet? 1149171081 M * kaner thanks, Gonzo 1149171085 M * Milf daniel_hozac: yeah that's the one. 1149171089 M * daniel_hozac Milf: sysv 1149171118 M * daniel_hozac Milf: make install-distribution or whatever that target is should do it for you. 1149171120 M * Milf gonzo: yes, I have the docs. But alas, Zeng has left the country and I don't know where he wanted to publicise it. 1149171123 M * kaner micah: hey :) 1149171151 M * [PUPPETS]Gonzo milf: Oh. I hope he wasn't in indonesia when the earthquake came? 1149171167 M * [PUPPETS]Gonzo milf: afaik he wanted to publish them on the wiki and in the ct, somehow 1149171189 M * Milf gonzo: I think he went somewhere else and he wanted to leave today. 1149171225 M * Milf Yes, c't doesn't wnt a sketchy howto, they want me to write an article detailing differences to the article in issue 10/2006 p228 1149171233 M * [PUPPETS]Gonzo milf: ok, then I am sedated 1149171247 A * Milf chuckles. Good one, Gonzo. 1149171604 Q * doener Quit: brb 1149171827 M * Milf Hmm, ok, I did make install-distribution but it just created some links for vshelper, 1149171846 M * Milf Hmmm, I'll put the question differently: Is there a current documentation on setting up a host? 1149171901 M * daniel_hozac http://linux-vserver.org/Step-by-Step+Guide+2.6 should be fairly current. 1149171925 M * daniel_hozac (if not, feel free to update it) 1149172008 M * [PUPPETS]Gonzo We'll forget about the minute *g* 1149172101 J * doener ~doener@i5387C2CE.versanet.de 1149172225 M * Milf Hey Gonzo, for someone who's been sedated, you're awfully lippy :) 1149172267 M * [PUPPETS]Gonzo I am totally pissed, sorry :) 1149172386 M * Milf Hey, join the club of people-who-are-pissed. 1149172419 A * [PUPPETS]Gonzo joins the club and orders some Single Malt. 1149172442 A * Milf sits right next to Gonzo and orders one too three 1149173050 Q * DarthVader Quit: Leaving 1149173940 M * Milf One question: Why is the official flower page on Enrico's server and not in the wiki? 1149174276 M * cehteh prolly because noone copied it over there? 1149174309 M * doener IIRC it is created by one of util-vserver's make target 1149174364 M * doener and wiki + auto-generated usually doesn't work well together 1149174378 M * cehteh depends on the wiki :) 1149174437 M * doener of course, but how would it cope with a changed part of the site, that be next auto-generated page version overwrites? 1149174469 A * cehteh wants to make a bidirectional wiki<>scm system sometime next .. mirroring my sourcecode on wiki pages .. and edits there can be merged back to the scm 1149174535 M * cehteh of course you need some merge/conflict resolution handler 1149174643 J * stefani ~stefani@tsipoor.banerian.org 1149175069 P * wam 1149175260 M * Milf Hmmm, 'cause it would be nice to have that piece of reference material in a form that doesn't say 'f*ck you' to all those nice new users that are trying out VServer 1149175318 M * doener feel free to create a copy of it, but be prepared to maintain it ;) *emulating Bertl while he's away* 1149175351 M * doener or try to convince ensc to use one of the other stylesheets as default 1149175513 M * daniel_hozac you also have a non-styled one in util-vserver-0.30.210/doc/configuration.html. 1149175655 M * Milf yeah, and I need to copy that somewhere I can point a browser at it. 1149175672 M * doener well, it just cannot find the stylesheet ;) 1149175740 M * daniel_hozac yeah :) 1149176006 M * Milf A simple manpage would be enough *nag* 1149176082 M * daniel_hozac feel free to write one, i'm sure enrico would accept it. 1149176125 M * derjohn Milf, with Mozilla 'web developer' plugin, you can simply click 'disable' stylesheets. or use lynx ;) 1149176162 M * daniel_hozac ... or select a stylesheet that doesn't suck. 1149176203 M * Milf sure, no problem. I also found out how to switch the stylesheet in my browser. I'm thinking it's a no-no the way the page normally looks. But i'm just nagging, I should talk to ansc about this and be nr. 12397493 to try to convince him of doing it differently 1149176208 M * derjohn daniel_hozac, with no stylesheet it reads fine ;) 1149176223 M * daniel_hozac you actually lose a bit of information without a stylesheet. 1149176264 M * derjohn Milf, maybe create a script in the way 'lynx http:/.... download | curl ' and run it with cron? 1149176282 M * daniel_hozac it doesn't get updated that often. 1149176330 M * Milf Dunno. I'd also like to make it easier to read. The layout is a bit complex. It's hard to find your way around. 1149176423 A * doener is totally comfortable with the weedpage style 1149176437 M * derjohn Milf, type / in your favorite^W Mozilla browser: voila, you'll what you are looking for. (the GFP is no manual) 1149176438 M * doener gras1 is also nice 1149176489 M * daniel_hozac i prefer boring. 1149176546 M * doener I find it hard to see where item that are on the same level start/end 1149176560 M * doener makes "visual searching" a bit hard 1149176576 M * Milf The sheer size of the document makes visual searching hard. 1149176642 M * Milf Might try a different approach: A utility to do the configuring. 1149176648 M * doener did you ever take a look at fvwm(1)? ;) 1149176947 M * Milf fvwm's manpage? how big is that? 1149177015 M * doener slightly smaller than gcc's... fvwm: about 8k lines, gcc about 10k lines 1149177031 M * Milf Well, no wonder no one uses fvwm :) 1149177047 M * doener /nick NoOne 1149177106 M * derjohn well, anyone interested in a window-manager-f(l)amewar? 1149177197 M * doener nah, doesn't make any sense... I know that I'm a few times faster using FVWM than using anything else and that's all I care about... 1149177255 M * daniel_hozac what's so special about fvwm? (/me has never seen it) 1149177333 M * doener it's default configuration looks disgusting to most... that's what most people know about it... apart from that, it is small, fast and incredibly configurable. 1149177362 M * doener I'm using it with FVWM-Crystal (basically a set of configurations for FVWM) 1149177393 M * Milf Yeah and the configuration is, to my experience, a lot of tweaking and editinig in a config-file 1149177422 Q * gerrit_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1149177437 M * Milf But, as DerJohn said, I use fvwmXP, the one that is immune to all attempts at configuring it. 1149177997 Q * _coocoon_ Quit: KVIrc 3.2.0 'Realia' 1149178209 J * bonbons ~bonbons@83.222.39.166 1149178427 Q * ascorbicacid Quit: 1149178443 Q * Milf Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org 1149178526 J * gerrit ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net 1149179124 N * Bertl_oO Bertl 1149179129 M * Bertl evening folks! 1149179215 Q * ||Cobra|| Remote host closed the connection 1149179306 M * bonbons evening Bertl! 1149179385 M * Bertl hey, I guess I will have some time now for lo/ipv6 at least at the weekend, how is it going for you? 1149179475 M * bonbons I updated my patch to include some conflict solving, and uploaded the incremental patches (NIPQUAD, IPv6 IPv6+Mod) to my homepage 1149179529 M * bonbons during week-end I will take a look at pinging and multicast, just need an appropriate multicast capable app for that... 1149179549 Q * lilalinux Remote host closed the connection 1149180277 M * Bertl bonbons: ah, probably not that easy to find for ipv6 1149180320 M * bonbons well, ping6 does it a little bit on link-local addresses (e.g. ip6-allnodes), but for the rest... 1149180323 N * otaku42 otaku42_away 1149180551 M * Bertl yes, I remember some multicast test app for v4 somebody wrote ... 1149180574 Q * bon Remote host closed the connection 1149180637 M * bonbons then porting those to IPv6 may be of some help, easier to test with a lean test-app than with a big software package! 1149180669 M * Bertl yes, that's why I mentioned it, let me see if I can find the relevant url/link faster than daniel_hozac :) 1149180777 M * bonbons who has the best hashed URL-index ;) 1149180867 M * Bertl www.bmx-chemnitz.de/~mfr/multirec.c 1149180946 M * bonbons ok 1149181083 M * Bertl http://www.ipmulticast.com/index2.php?option=content&do_pdf=1&id=13 1149181094 M * Bertl this seems to be the source for that 1149181250 J * bon bon@shadow.radiolan.sk 1149181264 M * Bertl wb bon! 1149181525 J * mkhl ~mkhl@200-153-181-113.dsl.telesp.net.br 1149181704 M * Bertl welcome mkhl! 1149181738 Q * bon Remote host closed the connection 1149181760 J * bon ~bon@shadow.radiolan.sk 1149181954 N * sars sarnold 1149181957 Q * Viper0482 Quit: bin raus, 1149182064 Q * bon Remote host closed the connection 1149182101 J * bon ~bon@shadow.radiolan.sk 1149182117 Q * yang Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1149182405 Q * bon Remote host closed the connection 1149182447 J * bon ~bon@shadow.radiolan.sk 1149183261 Q * bon Remote host closed the connection 1149183313 J * bon bon@shadow.radiolan.sk 1149183648 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: did you see the fixes from yesterday? http://daniel.hozac.com/vserver/delta-flock-fix01.diff is for all branches, and http://daniel.hozac.com/vserver/delta-uninterruptible-fix01.diff is for the 2.6.17 port. 1149183812 M * Bertl ah, cool, no missed them, was busy with the 'linuxwochen' 1149183831 M * daniel_hozac yeah, i assumed so. 1149183862 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: but the lock issue I did observe today myself .. so good to see that it is already fixed :() 1149183925 M * Bertl the 2.6.17 is a dirty hack I did in 20 minutes or so, but I think Aiken tested it, yes? 1149183931 M * daniel_hozac yeah. 1149183957 M * daniel_hozac http://paste.linux-vserver.org/61 is what he got. 1149183972 M * Bertl okay, where did we/I lose the lock stuff? 1149184010 M * Bertl wow the dentry 1131 is cool! 1149184020 M * daniel_hozac when it was introduced? or what do you mean? 1149184034 M * daniel_hozac yeah, he also managed to get negative values for the dentry... i'm rather curious about that. 1149184044 M * Bertl yeah, I remember that I tested the lock stuff some time ago 1149184070 M * Bertl so somewhere on the way either the code drastically changed or I lost that line somehow ... 1149184084 Q * bon Remote host closed the connection 1149184087 M * daniel_hozac my 2.6.15 host doesn't show the issue. 1149184101 J * bon ~bon@shadow.radiolan.sk 1149184112 M * Bertl okay, so probably on the 2.6.16 port then 1149184136 M * Bertl the dentry is okay if it gives funny values every now and then 1149184159 M * Bertl we do not do any tagging there so it's just mere accounting 1149184173 M * Bertl which obviously might be terribly wrong if anything is shared 1149184175 M * daniel_hozac ah, ok. that explains it. 1149184215 M * Bertl I thought about adding a 'mask' for such limits to exclude them from the final check 1149184249 M * daniel_hozac yeah, makes sense. 1149184263 M * Bertl but I consider it one of my better ideas that I added those checks in the first place :) 1149184322 M * Bertl btw, it seems I was really tired when I did the vtime patch 1149184334 M * Bertl already uploaded (at least I think so) the fix :) 1149184344 M * daniel_hozac yeah, i saw that. 1149184364 M * Bertl nevertheless it did work reasonably well :) 1149184421 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: do you have any idea how we could measure the overhead vtime adds? 1149184476 Q * bon Remote host closed the connection 1149184488 M * Bertl and we probably have to handle the memmory mapped kernel page on x86_64 and similar to make it work in all cases too 1149184500 M * Bertl s/in/for/ 1149184574 M * daniel_hozac won't vx_gettimeofday be the overhead? 1149184574 J * bon bon@shadow.radiolan.sk 1149184659 M * Bertl well, yes, but it's not really clear to me a) how often that is really called/used, and b) how much overhead we would introduce with the flag checks (which could be inlined, for example) 1149184684 M * daniel_hozac isn't the flag check a macro? 1149184746 M * Bertl yes, so? I meant the entire vx_gettimeofday could be inlined ... 1149184756 M * daniel_hozac ah, ok. 1149184787 M * Bertl it's not used in that many places currently 1149184814 M * Bertl I don't care about the *set case overhead, as this will not happy very often 1149184823 M * daniel_hozac any reason we can't just put the checks in do_gettimeofday? 1149184823 M * doener Bertl: how was your talk? 1149184856 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: actually no, except for the fact that we need a do_* without the vx stuff too 1149184880 M * daniel_hozac how so? where is it used and we don't want the virtualization? 1149184886 M * Bertl doener: it was definitely fun! and it seems folks liked it ... 1149184905 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: everything kernel internal does not want the virtualization 1149184969 M * daniel_hozac ah, right... 1149185043 M * Bertl but in theory we could work around that by either passing another argument or by inlining the vx_* checks 1149185048 M * Bertl s/check/wrappers 1149186429 J * kir_home tis-48aad8@213.152.157.70 1149186561 Q * kir_home Remote host closed the connection 1149186868 M * Bertl okay, I guess I need a nap :) 1149186878 M * Bertl back later then ... 1149186884 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1149188668 J * meandtheshell ~markus@85-124-175-168.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at 1149189297 Q * shedi Quit: Leaving 1149190798 J * shedi ~siggi@inferno.lhi.is 1149191138 M * Skram :) 1149191205 A * Skram curses at his cubicle walls which feel like they are closing in. 1149191310 J * yarihm ~yarihm@80-218-1-177.dclient.hispeed.ch 1149191753 Q * mkhl Quit: 1149194757 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1149195652 M * pisco cansomeone give me a hin for cpu limiting? 1149195717 M * pisco f.e. if i would run a seti-client or some other app that would normaly 100% of cpu usage inside a vserver 1149195752 M * pisco i played arround with http://linux-vserver.org/Scheduler+Parameters but not successfull 1149196147 M * Radiance ulimits ? 1149196154 M * Radiance not sure if it works within vserver 1149196213 J * pisc1 ~pampel@p5087B86D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1149196247 Q * pisco Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1149196256 Q * pisc1 Quit: 1149196267 J * pisco ~pampel@p5087B86D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1149196597 Q * Nam Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1149196822 J * Aiken ~james@tooax8-124.dialup.optusnet.com.au 1149197580 Q * mire Quit: Leaving 1149198181 M * daniel_hozac pisco: what do you mean you're not successful? does your kernel support it? 1149198277 M * pisco i have compiled in the option, but i want to test it, simply to find how it works f.e. how to assign 10% of cpu capacity 1149198355 M * daniel_hozac http://linux-vserver.org/vsched+explained 1149198405 M * pisco thanks 1149199196 Q * bon charon.oftc.net unununium.oftc.net 1149199196 Q * eyck charon.oftc.net unununium.oftc.net 1149199196 Q * cdrx charon.oftc.net unununium.oftc.net 1149199196 Q * dna charon.oftc.net unununium.oftc.net 1149199196 Q * kir charon.oftc.net unununium.oftc.net 1149199196 Q * blizz charon.oftc.net unununium.oftc.net 1149199196 Q * morrigan charon.oftc.net unununium.oftc.net 1149199196 Q * Bertl_zZ charon.oftc.net unununium.oftc.net 1149199196 Q * Zaki charon.oftc.net unununium.oftc.net 1149199196 Q * Radiance charon.oftc.net unununium.oftc.net 1149199196 Q * Hollow charon.oftc.net unununium.oftc.net 1149199196 Q * sarnold charon.oftc.net unununium.oftc.net 1149199278 J * bon bon@shadow.radiolan.sk 1149199278 J * eyck eyck@ghost.anime.pl 1149199278 J * dna ~naucki@dialer-140-38.kielnet.net 1149199278 J * kir ~kir@swsoft-mipt-nat.sw.ru 1149199278 J * blizz ~blizz@evilhackerdu.de 1149199278 J * morrigan morrigan@212.16.62.52 1149199278 J * Bertl_zZ herbert@212.16.62.52 1149199278 J * Zaki ~Zaki@212.107.125.213 1149199278 J * Radiance e24b4f8ebd@halt.1984world.eu 1149199278 J * Hollow ~hollow@home.xnull.de 1149199278 J * sarnold ~sarnold@sarnold.noc.oftc.net 1149200253 J * pisc1 ~pampel@p5087A7C2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1149200412 Q * pisco Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1149201381 P * stefani I'm Parting (the water) 1149202281 Q * yarihm Quit: Leaving 1149203289 Q * meandtheshell Quit: bye bye ... 1149203750 J * starlein_ ~star@e178183152.adsl.alicedsl.de 1149203815 M * starlein_ great! finally I found that channel 1149203837 J * starlein star@fo0bar.de 1149203842 Q * starlein_ Quit: 1149204193 M * daniel_hozac congrats :) 1149205444 Q * dna Quit: Verlassend 1149205540 Q * alex_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1149206387 Q * gerrit Ping timeout: 480 seconds