1148257371 M * mugwump asmlinkage int sys_olduname(struct oldold_utsname __user * name) 1148257374 M * mugwump heh 1148257759 Q * s0undt3ch Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1148257823 M * mugwump are "task"s threads? 1148257834 M * mugwump ie, /proc/XXX/task/XXX 1148257860 M * Bertl yup 1148257906 M * mugwump so, they each have their own task_struct but share the same PID ? 1148257916 M * Bertl precisely 1148257928 M * mugwump but one is the "master" ? 1148257944 M * Bertl the task group leader, yes 1148257950 M * mugwump ie, when you call get_task_pid(), you get the ... ah right 1148257953 M * Bertl or thread group 1148257997 M * mugwump Can you see any particular reason why individual tasks should or should not be allowed to have differing namespaces to their group leader? 1148258043 M * Bertl hum, except to avoid confusion maybe, no 1148258113 M * mugwump ok cool 1148258175 J * s0undt3ch ~s0undt3ch@bl7-242-101.dsl.telepac.pt 1148258203 M * Bertl mugwump: signalling might get weird though ... 1148258702 J * doener_ ~doener@i5387C4B3.versanet.de 1148259101 Q * doener Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1148259106 J * [PUPPETS]Gonzo gonzo@langweiligneutral.deswahnsinns.de 1148259237 J * Dr4g_ Dr4g@82-40-202-184.stb.ubr06.uddi.blueyonder.co.uk 1148259726 Q * [PUPPETS]Gonzo Read error: Connection reset by peer 1148259856 A * s0undt3ch ping derjohn (althoug he might be sleeping) 1148261822 Q * mkhl Quit: 1148262439 Q * Aiken Remote host closed the connection 1148262440 J * Aiken_ ~james@tooax6-073.dialup.optusnet.com.au 1148263839 Q * softi42 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1148264455 J * softi42 npktuvi@p549D557E.dip.t-dialin.net 1148265328 J * sladen paul@193.28.45.41 1148266071 J * Aiken__ ~james@211.29.69.227 1148266369 Q * Aiken_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1148268328 M * mugwump hmm, there's no `machine` in /proc/sys/kernel/ 1148271347 M * Bertl okay, off to bed now ... have a good one everyone! cya! 1148271363 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1148272598 J * _coocoon_ ~coocoon@p54A0568B.dip.t-dialin.net 1148274155 Q * _coocoon_ Quit: KVIrc 3.2.0 'Realia' 1148277376 M * Hollow morning! 1148277465 M * Skram Hey 1148277489 M * daniel_hozac indeed. 1148277505 M * Skram finals later today! 1148278638 J * coocoon ~coocoon@p54A0568B.dip.t-dialin.net 1148278643 M * coocoon hello 1148278691 Q * coocoon Remote host closed the connection 1148278705 M * Skram goodbye 1148278760 J * coocoon ~coocoon@84.160.86.139 1148278783 Q * coocoon Remote host closed the connection 1148279012 J * coocoon ~coocoon@p54A0568B.dip.t-dialin.net 1148280439 J * dna ~naucki@dialer-139-115.kielnet.net 1148280516 Q * coocoon Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1148280674 Q * cryo Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1148280716 J * cryo ~say@psoft.user.matrix.farlep.net 1148281758 M * eyck hmm, soo, I'm running debian etch, and recent upgrade broke my vservers (0.30.210), I assume this is expected, and it's my own fault, right? 1148281795 M * eyck vserver-stat 1148281795 M * eyck can not change context: migrate kernel feature missing and 'compat' API disabled: Function not implemented 1148283484 Q * Aiken__ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1148284241 J * ||Cobra|| ~cob@pc-csa01.science.uva.nl 1148284752 Q * click Read error: Connection reset by peer 1148285075 J * coocoon ~coocoon@p54A05E29.dip.t-dialin.net 1148285685 Q * Methos Quit: Methos 1148286850 J * bonbons ~bonbons@83.222.38.81 1148289076 Q * shedi Quit: Leaving 1148289149 Q * eyck Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1148291860 M * derjohn I assume this is normal behavior: /var/log/auth.log: "setrlimit limit #12 to soft=-1, hard=-1 failed: Operation not permitted; uid=0 euid=0" 1148292071 J * shedi ~siggi@dsl-og-108-50.du.vortex.is 1148292565 J * [PUPPETS]Gonzo gonzo@langweiligneutral.deswahnsinns.de 1148293510 M * derjohn micah, etch: Version: 0.30.209-2 .. when will sid's version flow into the etch tree? 1148293829 J * Methos ~mjoconr@hacker.pineview.net 1148294809 Q * Dr4g_ Quit: Open Source Development :: http://dynamichell.org 1148295443 J * eyck eyck@ghost.anime.pl 1148295704 Q * MrX Remote host closed the connection 1148296542 J * lilalinux ~plasma@dslb-084-058-255-055.pools.arcor-ip.net 1148297829 Q * Zaki_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1148298843 J * Zaki_ ~Zaki@212.107.126.37 1148299579 Q * Greek0 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1148299945 J * MrX ~urk@219.95.233.67 1148300527 Q * [PUPPETS]Gonzo Remote host closed the connection 1148300806 J * [PUPPETS]Gonzo gonzo@langweiligneutral.deswahnsinns.de 1148301365 J * Milf ~Miranda@141.12.8.19 1148301377 M * Milf Guten 1148301405 A * [PUPPETS]Gonzo waves at Milf. 1148301438 A * Milf fuzzes up Gonzos hair, smiling happily. 1148301933 M * derjohn Milf, moinsen :) 1148302620 M * Milf derjohn: Guten too you too 1148304572 J * pagano ~pagano@lappagano.cnaf.infn.it 1148304672 N * otaku42_away otaku42 1148304924 Q * Dr4g Ping timeout: 481 seconds 1148305260 J * Greek0 ~greek0@85.255.145.201 1148305634 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1148305637 M * Bertl morning folks! 1148305870 J * kasim ~kai@p50816921.dip.t-dialin.net 1148305916 M * matti Hi Bertl. 1148305931 M * Bertl hey matti! 1148306229 M * Bertl welcome kasim! 1148306252 M * kasim hello 1148306263 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: any missing patches/fixes (except for the cow and saddr bug)? 1148306271 M * derjohn Bertl, I didnt stay on track with the mef-paper ... are there any updates? 1148306294 M * Bertl derjohn: you have to check with mef (a little later) 1148306327 M * derjohn Bertl, ok. I thought you gave him corrections, too ... I just began top read :) 1148306339 M * cemil whuu 1148306348 M * cemil mit dem handy und wlan 1148306348 M * kasim hi folks, i did miss the linuxtag, I regrett ... Question did you guys show a multiseat [K]ubuntu system there? 1148306350 M * derjohn (besides I have this other special project form you ... ) 1148306364 M * cemil es geht :) 1148306368 M * derjohn kasim, they, that was zeng 1148306392 M * derjohn checkout gallery.linux-vserver.org -> you'll find pics of the mulriseat 1148306396 M * derjohn *multiseat 1148306398 M * cemil cool 1148306415 M * cemil derjohn: whazup 1148306416 M * kasim could someone give me more details, technical not those images 1148306417 M * derjohn cemil, ok 1148306440 M * derjohn kasim, there is a FAQ/howto on progress Milf may know more (he is proof reader) 1148306480 M * derjohn cemil, whatsuop with you? cellphone+wlan? where? 1148306497 M * cemil here 1148306499 M * kasim derjohn: may i just ask you. With installed vserver on Dapper it should be posssible to have to consoles attached to a PC and operate with 2 people? 1148306551 M * derjohn ok, kasim, yes. 1148306562 M * kasim wow 1148306587 M * derjohn kasim, to be more precise: you have two separate linux-distris aus guest installed. each of it runs it's own xorg. 1148306617 M * derjohn kasim, there is also a multiseat feature out in xorg7 (or 7.1?), but then the users dont have root, cant install own software etc. 1148306633 M * kasim but you have 2 different consoles (keyboard, mouse, monitor)? 1148306636 M * derjohn kasim, with linux-vserver it's eon cooler 1148306658 M * derjohn kasim, in both cases yes. zeng did it with usb, even usb sound. 1148306671 J * mire ~mire@238-167-222-85.COOL.ADSL.VLine.Verat.NET 1148306701 M * kasim derjohn: i just do play around with the xorg7 you mention. Do I need 2 video-cards? 1148306724 M * Bertl derjohn: ah, btw, could you contact gonzo and let him know that he better remove the webstream tar from the galery, before somebody 'accidentially' downloads the entire thing as kir did :) 1148306744 M * derjohn kasim, well, it get difficult for user #2 to user xorgs headless (2 seat Xvfb setup ? :)) 1148306762 M * derjohn Bertl, *lol* 1148306783 M * derjohn Bertl, too much traffic or privacy concerns? 1148306808 M * Bertl ahem, well, his squid did cost him 10 bucks IIRC ... 1148306810 M * kir derjohn, yeah, please, and pass him my hot hello; I lost ten bucks because of that bug in the script 1148306867 J * Dr4g ~Dr4g@82-40-202-184.stb.ubr06.uddi.blueyonder.co.uk 1148306871 M * derjohn [PUPPETS]Gonzo, Gonzzo listen here! Additionally I wait for you answer about X-Men-3 cinema tickets ... I have to hurry they run out. 1148306894 M * kasim not sure i understand ... do i need two video-cards (agp + pci) to run that? 1148306906 M * Milf Me sais: book 'em now, nuy 'em later 1148306908 M * derjohn kir, huh? Did you bet against a bug? 1148306910 M * Bertl kasim: not necessarily 1148306912 M * Milf s/nuy/buy/ 1148306926 M * derjohn Milf, want to jon us? 2300h/Mittwoch 1148306943 M * derjohn kasim, you can go for a dualhead of course 1148306946 M * kasim Bertl: where do you connect the second monitor too 1148306954 M * kasim ohh 1148306955 M * Milf This week? Where? Only if it's raining. 1148306966 M * Bertl kasim: there are cards which can do two or four displays 1148306979 M * derjohn Milf, in the most imporant city of .de ! 1148306990 M * cemil Nuernberg? 1148307017 M * kasim the xorg multiseat stuff needs 2 diverent device. Great that would be a big advantage of vserver 1148307087 M * Bertl kasim: but AFAIR we did not test this setup, so it might be that X has issues 'sharing' two heads of a single device 1148307212 M * kasim Bertl: derjohn: which advice can you give me. My aim is to use one (K)Ubuntu PC, attach another set of input (keyboard, mouse) and another Monitor and have to people working at the same time independant 1148307236 M * kasim go for vserver, is it close to working? 1148307238 M * micah derjohn: it did yesterday 1148307294 M * derjohn micah, i apt-cache show-ed yesterday .. but we had a race then ;) cool .. btw: did you see eyck's problem? 1148307330 M * derjohn kasim, yes, build two vserver-guests with ubuntu in the first step 1148307346 M * micah derjohn: you can look at the packages page to see how long a package has left to migrate, and any reason why it hasnt 1148307362 M * micah derjohn: no, I did not see it, I am in mexico 1148307384 M * kasim is vserver in the dapper repositories? 1148307389 M * micah at the debian conference, the network is not very reliable Ñ= 1148307419 M * derjohn I would the host not have a graphical login, but each of the guests get one xorg 1148307458 M * derjohn micah, cool :) tequila+sietsta+hot-dip=debian :) ? 1148307479 M * kasim derjohn: you mentioned an FAQ, is there an URL handy? 1148307484 M * derjohn kasim, please file a bug if its not the case. I doubt they have binary kernels yet. 1148307596 M * derjohn kasim, nope. it's a draft only. zeng belongs write it in this spare time... I cannot decide if he wants to send it to you. (Milf ?) 1148307599 M * kir derjohn, no I did not bet (I probably should)... the problem is I pay for Internet $0.05 per megabyte, and my browser had downloaded about 175 of those megabytes from your 'random pic' script :( 1148307669 M * derjohn kir, well, it's worth it ;) /me is really sorry , I will make him remove it as soon as I see him online. 1148307683 M * Milf That wasn't a bug. That was a feature that the script reloaded every soandso seconds 1148307696 M * kir I am nasty sysadmin at my home and was in a mood to find and badly punish the person who downloaded about 200 megs from the Internet in an hour....only to find out the person is really me :))) 1148307723 M * Milf Yeah, you remind me of something derjohn. 1148307727 M * kir Milf, sometimes the script gives 200+ something megabytes "images" -- that is the bug 1148307737 M * Milf I told zeng I wanted to translate the thing today. 1148307752 M * Milf Oh, ist there another script? Where? Where? 1148307771 M * Milf Ah, oh. It's back up again. 1148307788 M * derjohn Milf, the gallery script. Not all of us are lucky to have a broadband flat ... 1148307810 M * derjohn Milf, and kir hit the whole LT video with the "random pic" feature 1148307876 M * Milf Nice. 1148307883 M * Milf No compression in it? 1148307911 M * derjohn Milf, a 4 day video 200 mb? I think that's reasonable. 1148307946 J * click click@ti511110a080-2258.bb.online.no 1148307964 M * Bertl wb click! 1148307967 M * derjohn kasim, if you leave us your e-mail here, we can push you a pre-draft as soon as we asked zeng 1148308009 M * derjohn kasim, p-msg me and I provide you all information freshly. We even need a beta tester for the FAQ. :) 1148308032 M * kasim ok: KS@kais.de are there some secrets to that is it not gpl? 1148308146 M * Milf Ok, I think it's broadcasting the big file again right now. 1148308175 M * Milf Yeah a beta tester would be nice. 1148308178 M * derjohn kasim, sure it is acrane evil magic! that why zeng writes an FAQ ;) ... no, it is GPL but it is very unfinished yet. we dont want to publish unready/finished things in order not to have disappinted users 1148308198 M * kasim i see 1148308287 Q * Milf Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org 1148308366 M * kasim my aim is a 2fold multiseat under Kubuntu. Not more and not less. With Xorg 7, some build in kernel-patches. Kubuntu-Dapper should be very close to that out of the box. 1148308416 Q * Loki|muh Read error: Connection reset by peer 1148308546 J * Loki|muh loki@satanix.de 1148308636 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: saddr bug? oh, the CONFIG_? 1148308648 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: i can't think of any other fixes. 1148308777 M * jake- hi everybody 1148308823 M * jake- i saw the debian security update for the vserver kernel. is this a problem for debian kernels only? 1148308856 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: okay, thought so .. doing an rc21 now 1148308977 M * daniel_hozac jake-: is what a problem? 1148308988 M * jake- mom 1148309002 M * jake- http://www.us.debian.org/security/2006/dsa-1060 1148309006 M * derjohn jake-, it a general problem, but's thats an pretty oooold patch anyway. 1148309012 M * WorkRoey eek 1148309015 M * jake- ah ok 1148309019 M * WorkRoey uh-oh, debian and vserver, that's what I use. 1148309061 M * jake- so its not a problem for a self compiled 2.6.16-vs2.1.1-rc14? 1148309070 M * daniel_hozac yes it is. 1148309083 M * daniel_hozac -rc18 fixed it. 1148309100 M * derjohn daniel_hozac, it is or is not ! (priv escalation?) 1148309105 M * jake- ok. thanks for the info 1148309110 M * derjohn daniel_hozac, oh. 1148309148 T * Bertl http://linux-vserver.org/ | latest stable 2.01, 1.2.10, 1.2.11-rc1, devel 2.1.0, exp 2.{0.2,1.1}-rc21 | util-vserver-0.30.210 | libvserver-1.0.2 & vserver-utils-1.0.3 | He who asks a question is a fool for a minute; he who doesn't ask is a fool for a lifetime -- share the gained knowledge on the wiki, and we'll forget about the minute ;) 1148309312 M * Bertl something (test) 1148309425 J * weasel-unununium weasel@asteria.debian.or.at 1148309517 M * Bertl something (another test) 1148309564 M * derjohn juhu! rc21! 1148309567 A * Bertl .o( no need to look for a new maintainer yet, just testing irc specific stuff with oftc folks) 1148309611 Q * Methos Quit: Methos 1148309802 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: any new patches for the tools? maybe regarding the env issues? 1148310537 Q * michal` Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1148310685 P * weasel-unununium 1148310892 J * michal` ~michal@www.rsbac.org 1148310931 Q * shedi Quit: Leaving 1148311245 Q * kir Quit: Leaving 1148311389 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: env issues? 1148311424 M * daniel_hozac the qmail problem? 1148311429 M * Bertl yep, rpecisely 1148311433 M * Bertl *precisely 1148311441 M * daniel_hozac well, IMHO that's a guest problem. 1148311468 M * Bertl yes, but it would be nice to be able to specify an env for sysv, no? 1148311482 M * daniel_hozac the guest should handle that. 1148311488 M * Bertl otherwise I do not see a sane way to do it in/for the guestß 1148311497 M * Bertl how so? when rc is called directly? 1148311499 M * daniel_hozac i.e. by sourcing some environment from /etc/rc.d/rc 1148311521 M * Bertl ahem, well, IIRC, init _has_ an initial environment, no? 1148311549 M * Bertl so either you need to have two rc scripts, one for init the other for sysv 1148311567 M * Bertl or you simply allow to specify an 'external' env in the config tree 1148311607 M * daniel_hozac why would you need a separate rc script? 1148311621 M * Bertl well, one which does not change the env (from init) 1148311629 M * Bertl and another one for the sysv case 1148311663 M * bonbons The initial env that init gets is TERM, HOME and then part of what was on kernel commandline 1148311666 M * daniel_hozac why wouldn't you want to override the environment from init? 1148311697 M * Bertl no idea, but obviously some distros (like debian) do _not_ override it? 1148311819 P * WorkRoey Leaving 1148312085 M * tokkee bonbons: Afaik TERM and HOME are set by login(8). 1148312087 J * stefani ~stefani@tsipoor.banerian.org 1148312098 M * Bertl welcome stefani! 1148312105 M * stefani hola 1148312108 Q * weasel Quit: unununium.oftc.net 1148312133 J * weasel weasel@asteria.debian.or.at 1148312144 M * Bertl Init sets the following environment variables for all its children: 1148312147 M * Bertl PATH /bin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin 1148312151 M * Bertl INIT_VERSION 1148312153 M * bonbons tokkee: I wrote a tiny init wrapper in C, that one did spit out TERM, HOME and BOOT_IMAGE as env variables not on kernel commandline, in addition there was seoftlevel= from gentoo 1148312154 M * Bertl RUNLEVEL 1148312161 M * Bertl PREVLEVEL 1148312164 M * Bertl CONSOLE 1148312175 M * Bertl maybe we should do that for the sysv case too? 1148312189 M * Bertl I assume some of them _are_ set 1148312478 M * daniel_hozac they shouldn't be. env -i is part of the start sequence. 1148312501 M * Bertl well, without RUNLEVEL and PREVLEVEL? 1148312523 M * tokkee What is the actual problem btw? ;-) 1148312543 M * Bertl some (debian?) qmail scripts fail on automatic startup 1148312552 M * Bertl but succeed on manual startup after enter 1148312562 M * tokkee Any error messages? 1148312564 M * Bertl (with sysv initstyle that is) 1148312589 M * Bertl tokkee: nah, they don't give an error, that would be too simple, qmail just partially fails :) 1148312722 M * tokkee Maybe adding "set +x" to the init-Skript might help debug that thing... 1148312784 M * Bertl well, I think we know how one could fix it, but it actually seems to just happen because our sysv init mode is not 'init compatible' 1148312812 M * Bertl i.e. it provides an environment which differs from the one init provides 1148312863 M * tokkee I can't image that any of the env variables mentioned above would cause a daemon not to start correctly... 1148312872 M * Bertl PATH? 1148312921 M * tokkee Isn't that set correctly on vserver startup? 1148312936 M * Bertl as it seems, it is not set at all 1148312958 M * tokkee Hmm... but then most other services should fail to start as well?! 1148312974 M * Bertl not if the rc script sets the path properly 1148312982 M * tokkee Hmm... some of them set PATH explicitely in the init script... 1148312984 M * tokkee ;-) 1148312984 M * Bertl (or one of the init.d scripts) 1148313075 M * tokkee That should be fairly easy to fix... 1148313117 A * samuel_ is back from the dead. Gone 340 hrs 36 min 11 secs 1148313125 M * samuel_ hi 1148313130 M * tokkee Hmm... shouldn't the vserver startup script inherit the init environment (or whatever environment is set at that time)? 1148313180 M * samuel_ i've just moved a slackware 8.1 into a guest. there is an incompatibility with the sysutils? 1148313188 M * daniel_hozac anything assuming PATH is setup with */sbin will also fail on su, at least on Red Hat. 1148313189 M * samuel_ ps is weird... 1148313225 M * samuel_ http://pastebin.ca/58039 1148313280 M * samuel_ I had the same problem with woody I think 1148313315 M * Bertl the HZ value? 1148313341 M * samuel_ and the % MEM used 1148313343 M * Bertl well, that's a bug in the tools (ps and friends= 1148313353 M * samuel_ maybe the tools can't understant the /proc anymore 1148313362 M * Bertl they try to guess the HZ value from the interrupt count 1148313377 M * Bertl IIRC, this was fixed in later psutils 1148313392 M * samuel_ ok 1148313399 M * Bertl you can get the same behaviour on a newly booted system 1148313408 M * Bertl where the interrupt count is relatively low 1148313432 M * samuel_ are you talking about the bad guess of % MEM utilization? 1148313444 M * Bertl no, just about the HZ stuff 1148313451 M * Bertl the memory seems to be something else 1148313455 M * samuel_ ok nice, i'll upgrade ps utils 1148313461 M * samuel_ let's see... 1148313477 M * Bertl yes, please keep us posted 1148313646 M * Bertl okay, off for dinner now .. back shortly 1148313659 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1148313755 M * tokkee Dinner sound great ;-) 1148313899 Q * pagano Quit: Leaving 1148313967 M * samuel_ just upgraded procps, everything work number uno. 1148314010 M * samuel_ no HZ value error, good calculation of mem used, ... 1148314076 J * cdrx ~legoater@cap31-3-82-227-199-249.fbx.proxad.net 1148314239 M * daniel_hozac well, utils interpreting 2.4's proc just don't work 100% for 2.6... 1148314309 Q * VAndreas Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1148314344 Q * mcp Read error: Connection reset by peer 1148314354 J * mcp ~hightower@wolk-project.de 1148314541 Q * ||Cobra|| Remote host closed the connection 1148314906 A * samuel_ is away: (Auto-Away after 10 mins) [BX-MsgLog On] 1148315027 J * yarihm ~yarihm@vpn-global-dhcp3-138.ethz.ch 1148315034 J * VAndreas ~Hossa@212.110.98.7 1148315365 N * otaku42 otaku42_away 1148315736 J * keith80403 ~keith@24-56-189-80.co.warpdriveonline.com 1148315876 J * ebiederm ~eric@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com 1148316689 Q * yarihm Read error: Operation timed out 1148317364 Q * s0undt3ch Remote host closed the connection 1148317469 Q * nox Quit: If the world is without walls and fences -- who needs Windows and Gates ? 1148317544 J * nox ~nox@noxlux.de 1148317583 N * sars sarnold 1148318049 Q * morrigan Remote host closed the connection 1148318054 J * morrigan morrigan@212.16.62.52 1148318064 Q * eyck Remote host closed the connection 1148318068 J * eyck eyck@ghost.anime.pl 1148318075 Q * mugwump Remote host closed the connection 1148318081 J * mugwump ~samv@watts.utsl.gen.nz 1148318089 Q * micah Remote host closed the connection 1148318093 J * micah ~micah@208.99.202.72 1148318284 Q * lilalinux Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1148318608 Q * weasel Write error: connection closed 1148318619 J * weasel weasel@asteria.debian.or.at 1148318793 J * lilalinux ~plasma@dslb-084-058-196-023.pools.arcor-ip.net 1148318805 P * kasim Konversation terminated! 1148319098 Q * nox Quit: If the world is without walls and fences -- who needs Windows and Gates ? 1148319146 J * nox ~nox@noxlux.de 1148319217 Q * stefani Quit: I Quit! 1148319310 N * Bertl_oO Bertl 1148319314 M * Bertl back now ... 1148319347 M * sarnold hey Bertl :) 1148319916 J * stefani ~stefani@tsipoor.banerian.org 1148320030 M * Bertl wb stefani! hey sarnold! 1148320532 J * linuxer ~x@62.162.236.249 1148320570 Q * mcp Remote host closed the connection 1148320648 J * frz123 ~frz@86.59.25.121 1148320658 M * Bertl welcome frz123! 1148320666 M * Bertl welcome linuxer! 1148320675 M * Radiance this is offtopic, but i'm desperate :) 1148320677 M * Radiance any one can confirm if this should work to filter mail coming to a specific account, forward it to a different account and also let it be delivered to the original target ? I got this in procmailrc-> :0 c , * ^TO:*admin@domain.com , ! backup@otherdomain.com 1148320682 M * Radiance hiya BertI 1148320721 M * Bertl looks complicated 1148320728 J * shyngWz ~Gpatel9^G@cm218-133.liwest.at 1148320728 J * Lchandl ~RapaulpS@chello062178099222.6.12.tuwien.teleweb.at 1148320728 J * arjunasaeO ~R`benyIT@213-140-19-125.fastres.net 1148320728 J * cabhiramf ~Pozbasuki@lan-84-240-61-224.vln.skynet.lt 1148320728 J * CchrispenI ~Qavi7N@87.192.255.161 1148320728 P * shyngWz 1148320728 J * shyngWz ~Gpatel9^G@cm218-133.liwest.at 1148320728 P * shyngWz 1148320728 J * shyngWz ~Gpatel9^G@cm218-133.liwest.at 1148320728 P * shyngWz 1148320728 J * LzhigangN ~JDEdianeS@81-234-134-149-o266.telia.com 1148320728 J * OaliI ~PGhpradee@81-234-134-149-o266.telia.com 1148320728 J * safaacP ~CNJdanX@ede67-3-82-235-54-210.fbx.proxad.net 1148320728 J * sherif7r ~Fbchurn-h@ede67-3-82-235-54-210.fbx.proxad.net 1148320728 P * CchrispenI 1148320728 J * CchrispenI ~Qavi7N@87.192.255.161 1148320728 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Mail support@oftc.net if you feel this in error. 1148320772 J * cdlu ~cdlu@ottawa-hs-64-26-156-90.s-ip.magma.ca 1148320774 Q * frz123 autokilled: This host has shown signs of participating in a botnet. Mail support@oftc.net if you feel this in error. 1148320867 M * Bertl Radiance: why not just add a line ! 1148320913 M * Radiance i did, each of them start on a new line hehe 1148320923 Q * coocoon Remote host closed the connection 1148320947 J * weaselTM weasel@asteria.debian.or.at 1148321066 Q * weasel Write error: connection closed 1148321066 N * weaselTM weasel 1148321657 M * ebiederm Radiance: If you aren't filtering on the envolope destination header or putting the .procmailrc in the user account catching all mail to a specific account will be buggy. 1148321820 M * Radiance well i put it in the /etc/procmailrc file 1148321835 M * Radiance no other procmailrc file exists in the related homedir 1148321857 M * Radiance catch all mail works, just not the filter 1148321902 M * Radiance something is wrong with the filter expression 1148322045 M * Bertl why not :0 c:, cond, :0 a, ! backup? 1148322085 M * Radiance :0 c 1148322086 M * Radiance * ^TO.*admin@domain1.com 1148322086 M * Radiance ! backup@domain2.com 1148322092 M * Radiance does that look alright btw ? 1148322115 M * Radiance i see others say :c or : c or :0 c it's insane 1148322138 M * Radiance then it's To or TO, or TO.* or TO:.* and so on 1148322160 M * Radiance i can break DES by heart with all the time i spend on this shitty rule :( 1148322241 M * Bertl ^TO_ is what you want 1148322258 M * Radiance ok i'll set that 1148322260 M * Bertl ^TO_admin@domain1.com 1148322336 M * Radiance so it should look like this: * ^TO_admin@domain1.com 1148322355 M * Bertl yep 1148322364 M * Radiance ok thanks, i'll give it a try 1148323431 M * Radiance BertI, i dunno man, i think what you said should have worked. But it doesn't, but when i do :0 c and on a newline ! backup@domain2.com then it works, but then i get ALL mail lol 1148323456 M * Radiance so somehow, for some reason, the filter doesn't work 1148323490 M * Radiance to, TO, tO, TO, lol 1148323511 M * Radiance it's reason enough for some one to use morfine, that's for sure 1148323515 M * Bertl well, it works here, but maybe you got the check wrong 1148323526 J * mcp ~hightower@wolk-project.de 1148323537 M * Bertl did you try with 'just' the filter? 1148323560 M * Radiance you mean only * ^TO_admin@domain1.com ? 1148323561 Q * FloodServ helium.oftc.net services.oftc.net 1148323603 M * Bertl yes, just to get an idea if it works or not, btw, enabling procmail logging is a good idea too :) 1148323646 M * Radiance ok i'll try that :) 1148323734 T * services.oftc.net http://linux-vserver.org/ | latest stable 2.01, 1.2.10, 1.2.11-rc1, devel 2.1.0, exp 2.{0.2,1.1}-rc21 | util-vserver-0.30.210 | libvserver-1.0.2 & vserver-utils-1.0.3 | He who asks a question is a fool for a minute; he who doesn't ask is a fool for a lifetime -- share the gained knowledge on the wiki, and we'll forget about the minute ;) 1148323734 J * FloodServ services@services.oftc.net 1148323958 J * shedi ~siggi@inferno.lhi.is 1148323967 Q * doener_ Quit: leaving 1148324192 Q * Falle Quit: leaving 1148324222 M * Radiance BertI, what if procmail can only deliver to local and not to remote ? hehe 1148324295 M * Bertl well, of course procmail can only deliver locally 1148324309 M * Bertl procmail is an LDA 1148324334 M * Radiance yeah i forgot that although i did try a local user 1148324343 M * Radiance lemme double check everything heh 1148324352 M * mnemoc stupid question, how can i tell gdb to ignore a signal? 1148324358 M * mnemoc (hi!) 1148324365 J * s0undt3ch ~s0undt3ch@bl6-69-71.dsl.telepac.pt 1148324379 M * Bertl ignore or nopass? 1148324398 M * s0undt3ch hello ppl 1148324416 M * mnemoc Bertl: what is nopass? :( 1148324427 M * Bertl the same as ignore :) 1148324505 M * mnemoc Program received signal SIG63, Real-time event 63. <--- i get this only when i start an app inside gdb, and i need to be able to debug this app :( 1148324515 M * s0undt3ch is it normal for my guests host server to have a cpu id: of ~98%? 1148324515 M * s0undt3ch those stats are from top 1148324515 M * s0undt3ch well, now those 98% are from user 1148324515 Q * s0undt3ch Remote host closed the connection 1148324551 M * Bertl cpu id being the idle time? 1148324613 Q * ebiederm Quit: Leaving 1148324662 M * mnemoc Bertl: please :( 1148324691 M * Bertl mnemoc: no idea, never debugged realtime signals 1148324698 M * mnemoc :\ 1148324701 M * Bertl mnemoc: but I would start with updating gdb 1148324728 M * mnemoc 6.4 :\ 1148324732 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: hmm, 2.1.2-rc21? :) 1148324771 M * mnemoc i don'T want to debug the signal, i want to find the backtrace of a segfault i get 7 seconds after starting the app 1148324785 M * mnemoc so i have to ignore that signal :) 1148324816 M * Bertl 2.1.2? did the scripts screw up again? 1148324827 M * daniel_hozac the file is named 2.1.2. 1148324846 M * daniel_hozac and the Makefile version is 2.1.2 as well. 1148324878 M * Bertl ah, my fault ... tx 1148324885 M * Bertl will fix it in place 1148324989 M * Bertl k, done 1148325304 J * harti ~Hartmut@85-124-100-166.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at 1148326014 M * Radiance BertI, i think it works, but there is a small issue left...i arrives 11 times lol 1148326018 M * Radiance it* 1148326138 Q * jpacheco Quit: My damn controlling terminal disappeared! 1148326399 Q * lilalinux Remote host closed the connection 1148326917 M * Hollow bonbons: fyi, i moved the http functions to lucid and extended it for both client/server 1148326944 M * bonbons Hollow: thanks 1148326987 M * Hollow bonbons: and i started to make things memory safe.. so if you come across unfreed memory, feel free to fix it :) 1148327018 N * click [STAR]Ravenedge 1148327038 M * bonbons also for potentially failed-mallocs? e.g. x = malloc(); x[n] = z 1148327069 M * Hollow hm, until now i silently assume malloc always succeeds.. 1148327095 M * Hollow but we should check on it, to be safe 1148327138 M * bonbons the biggest question is how to proceed on malloc failure... 1148327189 M * Hollow at least disconnect the client 1148327196 M * Hollow dunno if the whole daemon should quit 1148327234 M * bonbons I don't think the daemon should quit, disconnecting client probably depends on where it happens 1148327242 M * Hollow indeed 1148327285 M * Hollow but that's not highest priority i guess 1148327313 M * Hollow now that we have a http client library we can finally start to make clients 1148327377 M * bonbons I don't think either, especially as long as there are not that many guests. 1148327412 M * bonbons Yep, a basic client would be very useful, especialy a scriptable client (aka that can be used by scripts) 1148327446 M * Hollow well, the first client will be vshelper :) 1148327460 M * Hollow but right.. a nice cli interface is the next step 1148327556 M * bonbons a client like the PHP script would be fine for the start 1148327651 M * Hollow i'm off to bed now, final english exam tomorrow.. 1148327670 M * daniel_hozac good luck! 1148327676 M * Hollow thanks :) 1148327852 M * derjohn Hollow, goog luck! 1148327862 M * derjohn Hollow, good ... 1148327865 M * derjohn I mean ;) 1148327913 M * derjohn bonbons, what is the status of your v6 patch? any chances it will ever be finished? 1148327937 M * bonbons it works with incomplete isolation 1148327967 M * bonbons I'm missing especially src address limitation 1148327974 M * derjohn hey, that's a cool step :) Do you proceede further? And: in wich way incomplete? 1148327982 M * derjohn ah 1148328012 M * derjohn but the "inbound" isolation runs? with v6 as module or statically compiled? 1148328017 M * bonbons for multicast I didn't check yet. Bind is checked 1148328056 M * bonbons yep, IPv6 must still be compiled in 1148328110 M * derjohn Will you do further work on it? what is your plan? production? 1148328165 M * bonbons yep, working on it more this week as I have much more time :) 1148328218 M * bonbons for current patches, look at http://homepage.internet.lu/brunop/vserver/ (most recent one there is of yesterday, but already have a few fixes nearly ready) 1148328606 J * s0undt3ch ~s0undt3ch@bl7-254-156.dsl.telepac.pt 1148328616 M * s0undt3ch hello ppl 1148328627 M * s0undt3ch why can't I use irssi inside a guest? 1148328643 M * trash s0undt3ch: huh? 1148328674 M * trash who says you cannot? 1148328697 M * s0undt3ch well, I tried using irssi inside a guest and what I get is Irssi: Unable to connect server irc.freenode.net port 6667 [Cannot assign requested address: 85.240.254.156] 1148328713 M * s0undt3ch for example 1148328758 M * derjohn bogus, well, those patches are not in Java, so I cannot read it ;/ I press all thumbs that you will finish them. (Sooner than NGnet ;)) 1148328780 M * derjohn hola s0undt3ch ! 1148328818 M * derjohn s0undt3ch, id port 6667 already in use form a different guest? or from the host? another irc client? 1148328828 M * s0undt3ch derjohn: your here ;) 1148328852 M * derjohn s0undt3ch, hey I ping you via p-msg , but your werent there :) 1148328868 M * s0undt3ch well I really don't think so, at least the guests, and since the server got rebooted a while back, no 6667 shouldn't be occupied by no one 1148328898 M * derjohn netstap -pln or similar can show you ... 1148328902 M * derjohn *netstat 1148328920 M * daniel_hozac s0undt3ch: does nc/telnet work? 1148329007 M * s0undt3ch daniel_hozac: on the guests root connection is denied 1148329107 M * s0undt3ch derjohn: netstat shows no port 6667 being used 1148329126 M * derjohn s0undt3ch, may you are expolited? 1148329174 M * s0undt3ch derjohn: already ;) don't think so 1148329223 M * derjohn I think others here on the list use irssi form within a guest without problems. did you NAT? 1148329289 M * s0undt3ch derjohn: well, yes and snat too but that setup is a bit garbled ;) 1148329309 A * s0undt3ch will be back in a while, has to have dinner 1148329349 M * daniel_hozac i'm on irssi in a guest right now ;) 1148329357 M * daniel_hozac does that guest have any IP address assigned to it? 1148329401 M * Wonka *yawn* /me is on irssi in a guest since aaaaages ;) 1148329462 M * derjohn Wonka, isnt your name some kind of techno music label? 1148329481 M * Wonka derjohn: dunno. 1148329729 M * Radiance BertI, it stopped the duplicate madness with this rule in procmailrc: :0 Wh: msgid.lock | formail -D 8192 msgid.cache 1148329820 A * sarnold spots a cut-n-paste from procmailex(5) :) 1148330030 Q * Dr4g Quit: Open Source Development :: http://dynamichell.org 1148330821 M * Radiance sarnold, so what's your point ? 1148330874 M * sarnold Radiance: that i'd have drowned under Cc: load from previous managers if I didn't have that duplicate-dropping rule ;) 1148330891 M * Radiance yeah too bad you couldn't help earlier ;) 1148330909 M * sarnold Radiance: hehe, sorry i wasn't paying attention earlier :) 1148330937 M * Radiance i hope that rule is enough 1148330949 M * Radiance i still don't understand where the HELL those 11 duplicates come from lol 1148330964 M * Radiance any idea? heh 1148331953 M * s0undt3ch daniel_hozac: no, that guest does not have any ip assigned to it, besides the local one of course 1148331976 M * daniel_hozac huh? local one? 1148331982 M * s0undt3ch daniel_hozac: 10.1.0.5 1148331983 M * daniel_hozac does it or does it not have an IP assigned? 1148332008 M * daniel_hozac so why is irssi trying to bind to 85.240.254.156? 1148332017 M * s0undt3ch dunno 1148332055 M * s0undt3ch that's the freenode address 1148332071 M * Skram hey all 1148332083 M * daniel_hozac hmm, so it's not the bind that's failing. 1148332084 M * s0undt3ch oops, no, it's my public ip addr 1148332149 M * s0undt3ch if does fail the bind of my public ip addr to port 6667 1148332172 M * s0undt3ch s/if/it/ 1148332173 M * daniel_hozac so why is it trying to bind that? do you have it in your configuration? 1148332195 M * s0undt3ch daniel_hozac: my ip is dynamic so it's not there for shure 1148332345 M * s0undt3ch but it IS something related to my configuration, if I load irssi without any .irssi/ in home dir I'm able to connect 1148332387 M * daniel_hozac grep -Hr 85.240.254.156 ~/.irssi? 1148332471 J * s0undt3c1 ~s0undt3ch@bl7-254-156.dsl.telepac.pt 1148332482 M * s0undt3ch daniel_hozac: found it 1148332500 M * s0undt3ch I was setting the hostname in irssi's config to my FQDN 1148332509 Q * s0undt3ch Quit: leaving 1148332539 M * s0undt3c1 this is from inside the guest ;) 1148332548 N * s0undt3c1 s0undt3ch 1148333514 Q * keith80403 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1148333621 J * DrLinux ~DrLinux@85.192.213.97 1148333781 Q * DrLinux autokilled: A user from your address has violated network policy. 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Mail support@oftc.net if you feel this in error. 1148333889 J * Tascot ~Schangho2@80.91.116.116 1148333889 Q * Tascot Quit: 1148333889 J * shiva40W ~APWhRpJ@80.91.116.116 1148333889 Q * shiva40W Quit: 1148333891 Q * cdrx Remote host closed the connection 1148334387 J * krasser ~krasser@80.240.245.183 1148334409 P * krasser 1148334447 M * Wonka wassup? 1148334574 M * sarnold Wonka: probably just some kid somewhere 1148334618 M * Wonka oh, all from the same host, even 1148334642 M * Wonka same two hosts. not much better. 1148334648 M * sarnold 14 hosts.. 1148334653 M * sarnold but yes, pretty sad. 1148335029 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1148335283 J * mkhl ~mkhl@200-148-40-226.dsl.telesp.net.br 1148336233 J * keith80403 ~keith@24-56-189-80.co.warpdriveonline.com 1148336482 M * blizz quite impressive how oftc detected that kiddies attack.. 1148336488 M * blizz went worse in ircnet once 1148336493 M * blizz they took over #netbsd :-/ 1148336522 M * FaUl i don't care about overtakes anymore 1148336534 M * FaUl just create #netbsd1 and reunion there 1148336540 M * blizz we did ;-) 1148336555 M * FaUl and wait for leaving #netbsd, to open it again 1148336558 M * blizz but we traced the kiddies back to some hacked shell provider 1148336560 Q * dna Quit: Verlassend 1148336566 M * blizz from there to some east europe forum 1148336588 M * derjohn we should repot to bundessicherheitsministerium.de :) 1148336591 M * blizz lol 1148336594 Q * alamar Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1148336612 M * blizz huh, the abbreviation is bdsm ;-) 1148336613 M * Wonka waah 1148336614 M * blizz *lol* 1148336619 M * Wonka it _is_ naucki 1148336629 M * Wonka alamar too 1148336645 M * Wonka whereever i join, i fall over people from other channels 1148336653 M * Wonka FaUl too 1148336654 M * blizz i remember alamar, too 1148336673 M * blizz well, they've changed the matrix 1148336724 M * derjohn blizz, FaUl, Wonka all .de based? Heared about the vsever-working weekend in NBG = 1148336725 M * derjohn ? 1148336738 M * Wonka v-sewer? 1148336740 M * Wonka *g* 1148336748 M * Wonka NBG is too far away for me 1148336750 M * derjohn http://linux-vserver.org/Work+Retreat 1148336752 M * derjohn :) 1148336776 M * derjohn OMT (Oh-My-Typo) 1148336777 M * derjohn :) 1148336855 M * FaUl hm, NBG - thats bavaria, not germany *cover* 1148336876 M * Wonka laß das nicht die Franken hören 1148336878 M * derjohn FaUl, dont be FaUl :) 1148336886 M * derjohn Wonka, hehe ;) 1148336897 M * sarnold FaUl: naaaaaaah 1148336907 M * FaUl derjohn: it's more a question of money and girlfriend 1148336912 M * sarnold FaUl: nuernberg is more franken than bavaria :) 1148336917 M * blizz phew, hey, i live in munich. but right, bavaria is just the battlement to protect munich :-P 1148336920 M * derjohn und kein Sorge: cemil und BenBen are born in Hessen ... 1148336945 M * derjohn check out gallery.linux-vserver.orh to get an impression about the folks ... 1148336951 M * blizz hmm, i got only a very small clue of vserver :-/ 1148336951 A * FaUl lives in dortmund 1148336981 A * derjohn makes blizz a documentation writer ;) 1148337053 M * derjohn sarnold, are you .de based? 1148337071 M * blizz derjohn, aye, i'd love to see a new wiki 1148337076 M * sarnold derjohn: no; i'm .us, but i work for suse :) i've been to nuernberg a few times .. 1148337077 M * blizz the old one is.. hard to use :-) 1148337094 M * blizz s/old/current/ 1148337116 M * FaUl which wiki? 1148337122 M * derjohn sarnold, cool, how are our chances to get into the suse std distri? 1148337124 M * blizz hm, i love instiki 1148337145 A * derjohn thinks instinki sounds not well ... 1148337152 M * blizz instiki.org 1148337154 M * blizz ruby tough 1148337156 M * sarnold derjohn: it'd help to be in kernel.org kernels.. 1148337167 M * blizz it used to eat memory for lunch 1148337184 M * derjohn sarnold, then we would have made the race anyway :) 1148337193 M * sarnold derjohn: indeed. catch-22.. 1148337205 M * blizz but maybe a whole new vserver website would be cool? sure, someone would have to do it 1148337212 M * blizz catchin up with the web 2.0 style *lol* 1148337215 M * blizz but please, no blog 1148337215 M * blizz ;-) 1148337243 M * derjohn sarnold, we are in Debian Sid (binary kernels) ... I started work on convincing ubuntu and now suse ;) 1148337252 M * sarnold derjohn: cool :) 1148337273 M * derjohn sarnold, there is progess in getting vserver into mainline. salami-tactics. 1148337344 M * blizz nice 1148337346 M * derjohn sarnold, but to offer something likes Solaris Zones in Linux, Novell^W Suse should think about vserver 1148337378 M * blizz btw, how about the alternative tools libvserver and vserver-utils? 1148337385 M * blizz progress there? 1148337390 M * blizz liked them :-) 1148337410 M * derjohn blackfire, sarnold but openvz also tries an eric biederman wrote some hot stuff as well as serge hallyn (IBM!) 1148337412 M * sarnold derjohn: i think for mandatory access control things they intend to stick with apparmor; and for virtualization, they've put a huge amount of effort into xen.. i'm not sure where vserver fits the bill.. 1148337476 M * sarnold derjohn: serge is doing vserver? 1148337492 M * daniel_hozac apparmor does MAC? i thought that was just PAX/execshield like stuff. 1148337505 M * derjohn sarnold, but apparmor is a differnt thing, and XEN is our fried, not enemy. Vserver offers _different_ stuff (think about unifictaion, resoirce sharing etc.) 1148337508 M * sarnold daniel_hozac: nah, not much pax/execshield 1148337520 M * daniel_hozac heh, i completely misunderstood that then :) 1148337539 M * sarnold daniel_hozac: apparmor is (simply put) a list of 'rwx' accesses on specific files for specific programs 1148337557 M * daniel_hozac so like SELinux, only not in mainline? :) 1148337566 M * sarnold daniel_hozac: yet :) 1148337568 M * daniel_hozac (but hopefully not as painful to configure) 1148337633 M * derjohn daniel_hozac, i heared so. at least it is not "default deny" 1148337650 M * daniel_hozac certainly you _want_ default deny. 1148337658 M * sarnold daniel_hozac: there are two kinds of default deny 1148337669 M * sarnold daniel_hozac: there is "i only want these six programs to be confined" 1148337676 J * Methos ~mjoconr@hacker.pineview.net 1148337685 M * sarnold daniel_hozac: and there is "i want those six programs to be default deny, and grant them access to foo, bar, and baz.." 1148337709 M * daniel_hozac both of which are possible with SELinux... 1148337867 M * sarnold definitely; many of the things apparmor does are also possible with selinux 1148339368 Q * mkhl Quit: 1148339629 M * Skram did vserver make this file in the root of each guest "/fastboot"? 1148339647 M * Bertl Skram: unlikely 1148339651 M * Skram hmm 1148339652 M * Skram weird. 1148339660 M * Skram i dont remember it 1148339673 M * Bertl that's something the init scripts (of some distros) write 1148339676 J * Aiken ~james@tooax6-126.dialup.optusnet.com.au 1148339679 M * Skram (gentoo) 1148339680 M * Skram ? 1148339698 M * sarnold perhaps on shutdown -f .. 1148339703 M * Skram ah 1148339854 P * stefani I'm Parting (the water) 1148340033 Q * cinix Remote host closed the connection 1148340073 M * derjohn Bertl, bye. Still no openssi work done, but I sweat to do it (it may be not as banal as one might think ... apache logs to inodes, nor? how to make a shared storage??) but now mv /me -> /home :) 1148340091 M * Bertl okay, cya 1148342376 Q * Methos Ping timeout: 480 seconds