1147564800 M * mtw /dev/hda2 /home ext3 rw,data=ordered 0 0 1147564804 M * mtw no tagxid =[ 1147564813 M * mtw how I added tagxid option on /dev/hda2 ? 1147564817 M * mtw add* 1147564822 M * Bertl yes, for example 1147564838 M * Bertl then I'd suggest to reboot, or unmount /dev/hda2 even for home 1147564859 M * mtw # umount /dev/hda2 1147564860 M * mtw umount: /home: device is busy 1147564860 M * mtw umount: /home: device is busy 1147564870 M * Bertl some process is using it 1147564880 M * doener Bertl: btw, bme is out of mainline again? or was there more stuff that got included than what was reverted yestersay(?)? 1147564890 M * doener s/yestersay/yesterday/ 1147564914 M * Bertl doener: nah, bme was never really in, but we agreed that this way is too intrusive for mainline 1147564952 M * Bertl (because of the changed mount options to --bind mounts) 1147564953 M * doener hm? in Wiesbaden you told me that parts of it were accepted 1147564959 M * doener yep 1147564963 M * Bertl yes, parts :) 1147565120 M * doener hm, just checked my lkml mbox.. had missed your last reply when I read that thread 1147565155 M * Skram lol, i am running slocate -u on the vpshost 1147565345 M * Bertl doener: the idea is to use the 'remount' isntead of the mount -o bind 1147565449 M * Skram root 25247 10010 mdehn01-vs2-01 0.1 0.0 2776 1288 pts/16 S May09 6:26 /bin/bash ./machine_test.cmd 1147565457 M * Skram anyone know what that process is? 1147565486 M * Bertl looks like a script 1147565512 M * Skram yeah 1147565531 M * Skram ah ha! i found it 1147565611 M * Skram sushi time 1147565799 Q * Bobi Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1147566491 J * elisabeta ~elisabeta@cpe-066-057-020-207.nc.res.rr.com 1147566494 M * elisabeta niggers 1147566667 M * doener Bertl: hm, could that evolve into a talk for the /Stuff/FUN/ directory? 1147566674 A * doener .oO( Guest478 ) 1147566780 M * Radiance BertI, i read the document, looks easy to do, just one thing...vrsetup /dev/vroot/0 /dev/evms/vs <-- i don't have anything like that in /dev/ nor the other example .. 1147566861 M * doener Radiance: static dev? then use the mknod command given in the document ;) 1147566905 M * Skram i dont have anything like /dev/vroot/#.. *shrug*? 1147566905 M * Radiance i mean i have the vroot* entries, just what is "/dev/evms/vs" ? (i use udev btw) 1147566958 M * doener ah, the latter... that's just any block device... i that example a evms volume(?) (don't know the evms terms) 1147566986 M * Radiance hmm, i can point it to the partition where the vservers are residing you mean ? 1147566998 M * doener yep 1147567012 M * Radiance ah cool 1147567015 M * doener the vroot is a proxy device that needs to know which device it should act on 1147567160 M * Skram i dont have anything like /dev/vroot/#.. *shrug*? 1147567196 M * Bertl welcome elisabeta! 1147567221 M * doener Skram: then you probably don't have vroot support enabled, or are not using udev 1147567237 M * Skram where is such enabled (vroot) 1147567255 M * Skram kernel? 1147567259 M * doener kernel configuration, in the Block Devices section IIRC 1147567271 M * Skram hercules mdehn01-vs2-01 # cat /usr/src/linux/.config | grep VROOT 1147567272 M * Skram # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_VROOT is not set 1147567276 M * Skram can it be modularized? 1147567282 M * Bertl Skram: or they are called /dev/vrootN 1147567293 M * Skram Bertl: right, i dont have vroot in my kernel 1147567295 M * Radiance Skram, i enabled it in the custom kernel vroot 1147567301 M * Skram can i add it as a module? 1147567319 M * Bertl sure, but it will likely rebuild your kernel 1147567328 M * Skram well duh, it has to 1147567329 M * Skram okay 1147567342 M * Skram whats the order to make the kernel? 1147567350 M * Skram make make modules_install make bzimage? 1147567353 M * Skram ? 1147567369 M * Bertl make, then make modules_install or install 1147567384 M * Skram okay 1147567389 M * Skram then make bzImage or whatever 1147567405 M * doener bzImage is not needed with 2.6, plain "make" creates it 1147567412 M * Skram oh, really? 1147567417 M * Skram doener: you a gentoo'er too? 1147567428 M * Skram im not a kernel-guru 1147567440 M * doener I still have gentoo on my laptop, but probably will also switch back to debian there 1147567469 M * Skram Boot sector 512 bytes. 1147567469 M * Skram Setup is 6750 bytes. 1147567469 M * Skram System is 1776 kB 1147567469 M * Skram Kernel: arch/i386/boot/bzImage is ready (#3) 1147567471 M * Skram okay 1147567473 M * Skram meh 1147567524 M * doener Bertl: btw, I found Documentation/DontDiff by now :) 1147567535 M * doener s/I/I've/ 1147567770 M * Radiance hmm, i created manually /etc/vservers/snake/dev/ and tried to cp -af /dev/vroot0 /vservers/snake/dev/hdv1 , but this gives this error: cp: cannot create special file `/vservers/snake/dev/hdv1': No such file or directory 1147567863 M * Bertl /etc/vservers/snake/dev/ != /vservers/snake/dev/ 1147567874 M * Skram indeed. 1147567908 M * Radiance my mistake, sorry about that hehe 1147567913 M * Bertl np 1147567915 M * Skram once i have vroot installed as a kernel part, do i just make a new vps or what 1147567923 J * independence independen@marcusson.no-ip.com 1147567925 M * Bertl Skram: not required 1147567926 M * Skram hercules linux # modprobe -l | grep vro 1147567926 M * Skram /lib/modules/2.6.14-vs2.0.1-gentoo/kernel/drivers/block/vroot.ko 1147567944 M * Bertl Skram: just make sure it is loaded, and configure/copy it into the guest 1147567945 M * Skram if i modprobe it, it wont mess anything existing up, will it? 1147567950 M * Bertl welcome independence! 1147567961 M * Skram ? 1147567963 M * Bertl Skram: not if your kernel supports the module 1147567978 M * independence I'd like to route my LAN (192.168.0.*) to my vserver (192.168.1.13), how do I do that? The vserver-host is the router with the ip 192.168.0.1 1147567978 M * Skram hercules linux # modprobe vroot 1147567978 M * Skram FATAL: Error inserting vroot (/lib/modules/2.6.14-vs2.0.1-gentoo/kernel/drivers/block/vroot.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) 1147567980 M * Radiance BertI, i'm curious, how do i check with maybe vrsetup if a vroot<> has been pointed to some partition ? 1147567987 M * Skram d out! 1147567987 M * Skram vroot: Unknown symbol unregister_vroot_grb 1147567987 M * Skram vroot: Unknown symbol register_vroot_grb 1147568015 M * Bertl Skram: as I said, the kernel needs to be vroot aware 1147568024 M * Skram it is 1147568027 M * Skram i installed it, etc. 1147568035 M * Skram ill do it again 1147568036 M * Skram but 1147568037 M * Bertl you rebootet with the new kernel? 1147568057 M * Skram i modularized it, it shouldnt need to be rebooted. 1147568070 M * Bertl Radiance: it will be busy when you try to assign something to it 1147568129 M * Bertl Skram: well, it needs to be vroot aware as I said, but, if you've built quota as module too, you might just get off the hook by loading the new quota modules too 1147568173 M * Skram i have both of them modprobbed 1147568181 M * Skram well, vroot wont modprobe 1147568182 M * Skram man 1147568184 M * Radiance BertI, ok, i assume i'll have to make some simple script to assign it after the host is rebooted ? 1147568208 M * Radiance Skram, reboot might help if you didn't do that already 1147568212 M * Bertl Radiance: for example, or you can do so in the guest startup script 1147568223 M * Radiance ah perfect heh 1147568259 M * Skram Radiance: i cant reboot, someone else is running something on this server 1147568263 M * Skram i will find time in the next week 1147568397 M * Skram has anyone been able to get mrtg and snmp to work and monitor VPS-network traffic? 1147568532 M * elisabeta fuckign niggers 1147568593 M * elisabeta go yiff your mothers 1147568645 Q * independence jupiter.oftc.net reticulum.oftc.net 1147568645 Q * danderson jupiter.oftc.net reticulum.oftc.net 1147568645 Q * Dr4g jupiter.oftc.net reticulum.oftc.net 1147568645 Q * MrX jupiter.oftc.net reticulum.oftc.net 1147568645 Q * gdm jupiter.oftc.net reticulum.oftc.net 1147568645 Q * mire jupiter.oftc.net reticulum.oftc.net 1147568645 Q * Johan jupiter.oftc.net reticulum.oftc.net 1147568645 Q * hallyn jupiter.oftc.net reticulum.oftc.net 1147568645 Q * matti jupiter.oftc.net reticulum.oftc.net 1147568645 Q * harry jupiter.oftc.net reticulum.oftc.net 1147568645 Q * Skram jupiter.oftc.net reticulum.oftc.net 1147568645 Q * matvey jupiter.oftc.net reticulum.oftc.net 1147568645 Q * teukka jupiter.oftc.net reticulum.oftc.net 1147568645 Q * Wenix jupiter.oftc.net reticulum.oftc.net 1147568645 Q * sukria jupiter.oftc.net reticulum.oftc.net 1147568655 M * elisabeta lololollloololololololololol lllooolll lolol 1147568657 M * elisabeta lololollloololololololololol lllooolll lolol 1147568657 M * elisabeta lololollloololololololololol lllooolll lolol 1147568657 M * elisabeta lololollloololololololololol lllooolll lolol 1147568672 J * independence independen@marcusson.no-ip.com 1147568672 J * danderson ~dave@natulte.net 1147568672 J * Dr4g ~Dr4g@82-40-45-226.cable.ubr06.uddi.blueyonder.co.uk 1147568672 J * MrX ~urk@219.95.9.225 1147568672 J * gdm ~gdm@64.62.195.81 1147568672 J * mire ~mire@200-167-222-85.COOL.ADSL.VLine.Verat.NET 1147568672 J * Johan ~finger@lounge.datux.nl 1147568672 J * hallyn ~xa@adsl-75-0-155-101.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net 1147568672 J * matti matti@linux.gentoo.pl 1147568672 J * harry ~harry@d54C2508C.access.telenet.be 1147568672 J * sukria ~sukria@www.sukria.net 1147568672 J * Wenix ~wenix@81.7.189.11 1147568672 J * teukka ~tmatilai@backport.ri.fi 1147568672 J * matvey ~matvey@host-234-246.netflow.ru 1147568672 J * Skram ~mark@admins.sentiensystems.net 1147568704 F * ChanServ +o Bertl 1147568718 M * Radiance BertI, i hope i'm not bothering you too much mate...i got this when i wanted to start the guest: Unknown ccap 'quota_ctl' 1147568730 M * elisabeta i have answer 1147568735 M * elisabeta it is, go fuck your self 1147568737 M * elisabeta faggot 1147568740 K elisabeta Bertl cya 1147568788 M * Skram wtf. 1147568791 M * Skram heh 1147568804 M * Bertl Radiance: unusual what tool version do you use? 1147568857 M * Radiance the only things i installed from the debian stable rep are: 1147568858 M * Radiance util-vserver - tools for Virtual private servers and context switching 1147568858 M * Radiance vserver-debiantools - Tools to manage debian virtual servers 1147568876 M * Bertl okay, you want to get rid of the vserver-debiantools 1147568891 M * Bertl and you probably want to update from 0.30.204? to 0.30.210 from backports 1147568935 M * Radiance ok, i'll do that :) 1147568951 M * Skram libvserver-1.0.2 is stable, correct? 1147568973 M * Bertl yes, but Hollow's last suggestion was to use HEAD 1147568995 M * Skram okay 1147568996 M * Radiance BertI, ah sorry, vserver-debiantools were not installed btw. Only vserver-debiantools, i'll make a specific backport entry for that package 1147569002 M * Skram whats his site? 1147569021 M * Radiance (util-vserver that is) 1147569042 M * Bertl okay, make sure that it doesn't pull in the kitchensink from backports :) 1147569071 M * Skram :? 1147569072 M * Skram me? 1147569076 M * Skram o ok 1147569101 M * Radiance BertI, indeed :) 1147569359 M * Skram wow 1147569359 M * Skram okay 1147569363 M * Skram i have no "vserver" bin now. 1147569374 M * Skram i installed vserver-utils but it broke some things, so i uninstalled 1147569383 M * Skram the official tools are.. util-vserver, right? 1147569399 M * Bertl yep 1147569414 M * Skram if i reinstall util-vserver it should fix? 1147569416 M * Skram 1147569419 M * Bertl yep 1147569424 M * Skram oy vey 1147569481 M * Skram Bertl: im getting util-vserver-0.30.210-r13 1147569484 M * Skram is that good? 1147569503 M * Bertl sounds at least up-to-date .) 1147569504 M * Skram all beter 1147569838 M * Skram what is the interface name used for? 1147569846 M * Skram /etc/vservers/$1/interfaces/0/name 1147569848 M * Skram (in that file) 1147569859 M * Skram can there be more than one? 1147569975 M * Bertl the name is used for the 'old fashioned' aliases 1147569991 M * Bertl i.e. eth0:hansi (where hansi would be the name :) 1147569996 M * Skram o ok 1147570009 M * Skram so its like the alias shown in ifconfig? 1147570024 M * Skram ok i see it 1147570044 M * Skram can two interfaces have the same name? 1147570583 M * Bertl well, in theory yes, but it is not adviseable 1147570598 F * Bertl -o Bertl 1147571186 M * Skram ok 1147571187 M * Skram jc 1147571223 M * Skram brb, restarting e17 1147571825 M * Radiance BertI, i think i'm almost there, got the backports package installed, works great. About the quotas..i followed the steps, but do i need in the host to enable quotas also for that partition ? or is it enough to do it in the guest ? Also, i added the line to fstab too, not just mtab, or is this not good ? Currently i tried to execute the quotacheck command as documentated but i get these errors: q 1147571825 M * Radiance uotacheck: Can't stat() mounted device /dev/hdv1: No such file or directory and quotacheck: Can't find filesystem to check or filesystem not mounted with quota option. I did check if vrsetup /dev/vroot0 /dev/sda3 was still intact. 1147571864 M * Bertl depends on the filesystem actually 1147571879 M * Bertl did you copy the /dev/vroot0 into the guest as /dev/hdv1? 1147571958 M * Radiance let me check that heh 1147571981 M * Bertl also check what mtab inside the guest says regarding hdv1 1147572002 M * Radiance /dev/hdv1 / ufs rw,usrquota,grpquota 0 0 1147572015 M * Bertl okay, that looks good 1147572137 M * Radiance but in the host i do not need to tell in fstab to enable quotas for that partition ? 1147572169 M * Bertl for ext2 no, for ext3 for example you need to mount it with those options 1147572188 M * Bertl (otherwise the quotaon will be refused) 1147572258 M * Radiance ok, so in the host (fstab) i activate quotas for the partition i want to have quotas enabled for in the guest ? 1147572278 M * Radiance (this is ext3 btw) 1147572282 M * Bertl as I said, depends on the fs, but it should not hurt 1147572319 J * Methos ~mjoconr@hacker.pineview.net 1147572327 M * Bertl welcome Methos! 1147572352 M * Methos Hi All, does any now where can get a copy of the munin monitoring script for vservers ? 1147572386 M * Radiance BertI, for the rest i'd need ufs support in the kernel ? 1147572450 M * Bertl Radiance: no, that's just to trick the tools into not trying to directly access the fielsystem 1147572454 M * Bertl *filesystem 1147572460 M * Radiance ahh ok 1147572548 M * Methos Bertl, Radiance, what you talking about ? 1147572622 M * Radiance quotas support hehe 1147572649 M * Bertl Methos: no idea where the script can be found 1147572670 M * Methos mm ok the notes on the wiki mention asking here :) 1147572685 M * Bertl yes, that's a good place to ask ... 1147572717 M * Methos aa ok quotas, always wanted that to work for me also. But I did not want to use loop back 1147572720 M * Bertl do you have a name (nick) too, maybe? 1147572735 M * Bertl (related to the munin script that is) 1147572764 M * Methos mup "Vserver 1147572765 M * Methos * will be published real soon. ask on #vserver on OFTC " 1147572825 M * Methos Found a site which is using it 1147572837 J * s0undt3ch ~s0undt3ch@bl7-240-198.dsl.telepac.pt 1147572842 M * Methos http://ibis.riseup.net/munin/indymedia.org/kompost.indymedia.org-vsmem_humus.html 1147572880 M * Bertl ah, riseup points to micah, IIRC 1147572895 M * Methos or http://ibis.riseup.net/munin/indymedia.org/kompost.indymedia.org.html#Vserver 1147572906 M * Methos really cools stuff 1147572916 M * Bertl micah: ping? 1147572920 M * s0undt3ch anyone using irssi here? 1147572930 M * Bertl s0undt3ch: yup? 1147572948 M * Skram s0undt3ch: of course! 1147572955 M * Skram from inside a vps too. 1147572956 M * s0undt3ch Bertl: has it ever failed from loading saying "Alarm Clock"? 1147572956 M * Skram :) 1147572961 M * Radiance BertI, i remounted that partition with quota support, but those errors still appear running quotacheck command (quotacheck: Can't stat() mounted device /dev/hdv1: No such file or directory, quotacheck: Can't find filesystem to check or filesystem not mounted with quota option.) 1147572964 Q * FireEgl Quit: Bye... 1147572970 M * Bertl s0undt3ch: not yet 1147573002 M * Radiance hmm, it doesn't exist in /dev/ btw 1147573030 M * s0undt3ch my firewall script suddently started failing from loading wich makes irssi do that. now the script jst hangs there 1147573036 M * Radiance doing a df i get: /dev/hdv1 17299004 467308 15952944 3% / 1147573038 M * Bertl Radiance: so maybe you forgot to copy the /dev/vroot0 there? 1147573072 M * Bertl s0undt3ch: very interesting 1147573076 M * Radiance you mean in the guest /dev/ ? 1147573083 M * Bertl Radiance: yup 1147573105 M * s0undt3ch Bertl: not that much, how will I slove this is nothing interesting shows up in logs? 1147573116 M * s0undt3ch s/is/if/ 1147573135 M * Radiance oh shit, you're right, i confused /etc/vservers with /var/lib/vservers 1147573175 M * s0undt3ch it started when I first made an attemp to switch my vserver to pam_ldap and nss_ldap, which are now removed from system, yet it's still happening 1147573186 M * Radiance sleep shortage, i'll try to get this working and then go for an "early" sleep, like 4 am here :) 1147573200 M * Bertl same as here :) 1147573206 M * Radiance :-) 1147573210 M * s0undt3ch less one here 1147573335 M * Skram who runs riseup.net/ 1147573368 M * Bertl I'm pretty sure micah does (or at least he is related to those who do) 1147573374 M * Skram and did the VServer's stats graphs... was that from inside or out of the VPS 1147573382 M * Skram micah: around? 1147573635 M * Methos its from outside at least thats what it looks like from the munin listings 1147573643 M * Methos munin is very cool 1147573673 M * Skram *shrug*( 1147573676 M * Skram how? 1147573685 M * Radiance BertI, works like a charm, thanks mate. After doing these setups a few times then it'll go much smoother hehe 1147573719 M * Skram :) 1147573737 M * Methos It suppose it could be doing vserver exec or something 1147573737 M * Bertl Radiance: you're welcome! 1147573750 J * keyser_soze ~cimarron@200.127.187.27 1147573764 M * Bertl Methos: usually not required, the infos I see on the page you mentioned can be gathered on the host 1147573776 M * Methos yer thats what I thought 1147573782 M * Bertl Methos: mostly from /proc/virtual/*/limits 1147573791 M * Radiance ok mate, off for some sleep hehe g'night all ! 1147573798 M * Bertl Radiance: good night! 1147573799 M * Methos Skram: was just not sure at least that what I got from his question 1147573805 M * Bertl welcome keyser_soze! 1147573914 M * Skram *shrug* 1147574159 M * Methos any one got an email address for micah ? 1147574181 M * Bertl google has, search for micah and riseup 1147574526 M * Methos Thanks for that, I have sent him an email, signed :) 1147574670 M * Bertl good, I'm sure he will answer 1147574710 M * Bertl Methos: nevertheless feel free to ahng around, he will respond sooner or later ... 1147574743 M * micah perhaps now :) 1147574748 M * micah although i am very tired and about to sleep 1147574751 M * Bertl hehe 1147574760 M * Bertl wb micah! :) 1147574761 M * micah just arrived in mexico for debian conference 1147574779 M * Methos Yep, fun I've been using vserver now for 3 years now and I have never join this channel 1147574789 M * micah Methos: maybe we can speak tomorrow? or send me an email and I can answer as soon as possible 1147574820 M * Methos Hey micah did you goto the NZ conference this year, (yep I'm happy for you to respond via email) 1147574826 M * Methos I have send an email 1147574850 M * Methos to the riseup address 1147574853 M * micah Methos: never been to that part of the world, some day! 1147574865 M * Methos aa ok so your now the person I thought you where :) 1147575349 Q * doener Quit: User panic - not awake: Sleeping on keyboard 1147575671 Q * Methos Quit: Methos 1147576108 J * Methos ~mjoconr@hacker.pineview.net 1147576153 J * mordof ~disgruntl@69.49.45.171 1147576158 M * mordof you know skram you didn't have to leave 1147576174 M * mordof was just sayin since i don't follow that i didn't know, others might if you stick around 1147576203 P * mordof 1147576215 M * Skram wth? 1147576269 M * Bertl I assume that was our special 'friend' 1147576305 Q * Zaki Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1147576949 M * Skram hehe 1147577740 J * Zaki ~Zaki@212.107.125.44 1147578144 M * Bertl okay, off to bed now .. have a good whatever everyone ... 1147578152 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1147578545 Q * Methos Quit: Methos 1147579582 J * Methos ~mjoconr@hacker.pineview.net 1147582725 Q * Methos Quit: Methos 1147583983 J * jeagoss jeagoss@ppp-70-245-126-161.dsl.elpstx.swbell.net 1147584128 Q * jeagoss Quit: Sharp Knees 1147584956 Q * keyser_soze Quit: Abandonando 1147586490 J * dna ~naucki@dialer-180-164.kielnet.net 1147588617 J * Viper0482 ~Viper0482@p54977503.dip.t-dialin.net 1147589098 J * FireEgl Atlantica@2001:5c0:84dc:: 1147589153 J * Methos ~mjoconr@202.191.99.68 1147589543 Q * FireEgl Quit: Bye... 1147589956 J * FireEgl Atlantica@2001:5c0:84dc:: 1147591989 J * bonbons ~bonbons@83.222.38.81 1147592119 Q * FireEgl Remote host closed the connection 1147595772 J * ebru- ~chatodasi@85.100.189.186 1147595788 M * ebru- hi 1147595962 M * neo 23:05 < Bertl> ah, good, 2.6.16.16-vs2.0.2-rc20? 1147595969 M * neo yes Bertl_zZ 1147595970 M * neo :) 1147596001 M * neo but seems that the util-vserver of debian sarge is really too old 1147596807 M * [PUPPETS]Gonzo yes, it is. Try sid or - even better - compile it yourself 1147596830 M * neo i don't compile on a production server 1147596838 M * neo but i think i will take a backport :) 1147597014 M * daniel_hozac the backport should be fine. 1147597043 M * neo can it bring problems if i install it after having vservers in production ? 1147597080 M * daniel_hozac i guess it's possible, but it shouldn't. 1147597087 M * neo ok 1147597269 Q * Methos Quit: Methos 1147599169 J * id23 ~id@p54A00C24.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1147599178 M * id23 hi #vserver 1147599248 M * daniel_hozac hello 1147600319 Q * jkl Quit: My damn controlling terminal disappeared! 1147600949 M * mtw how do I limit traffic usage for each vserver? 1147601218 M * daniel_hozac tc should be able to. 1147601353 M * mtw ahn. what syntax I should use? 1147601394 J * Methos ~mjoconr@hacker.pineview.net 1147601475 M * daniel_hozac same as you would on a regular Linux box with multiple IP addresses? 1147601496 M * daniel_hozac Methos: http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/pkg-vserver/people/holger/munin-plugins/ in case you hadn't found it yet. 1147601510 M * Methos thanks 1147601526 M * mtw ahn 1147601537 J * jkl eric@c-71-56-216-223.hsd1.co.comcast.net 1147601702 M * Methos I have a deb for 0.30.210 1147601766 M * Methos should I be able to checkout from that svn ? svn checkout http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/pkg-vserver/people/holger/munin-plugins/plugins/ munin-vser 1147601770 M * Methos ver 1147601802 M * Methos neo: would you like my deb of 0.30.210 ? 1147601824 M * daniel_hozac bp.o and sid also have debs of 0.30.210. 1147601836 M * neo i'll use bp.o i guess 1147601849 M * daniel_hozac i think svn.debian.org uses svn+ssh, but i'm not sure. 1147601893 M * daniel_hozac ah, svn://svn.debian.org/pkg-vserver/ 1147602474 M * Methos ok backports must be new, did my own backport :) 1147608426 P * independence 1147609539 J * Oli ~skycode@212.224.224.166 1147610814 Q * Methos Quit: Methos 1147611011 M * [PUPPETS]Gonzo derjohn put his LT pictures into the gallery, Bertl_zT 1147611012 M * [PUPPETS]Gonzo z... 1147611346 M * BenBen [PUPPETS]Gonzo: where can the gallery be found? 1147611383 M * [PUPPETS]Gonzo http://gallery.linux-vserver.org/ 1147611403 M * BenBen thx 1147611425 J * zeng ~guest@p54A9740B.dip.t-dialin.net 1147611467 M * [PUPPETS]Gonzo you are welcome 1147611470 M * [PUPPETS]Gonzo hi zeng: http://gallery.linux-vserver.org/ 1147611482 M * zeng hi gonzo... 1147611495 M * BenBen hey zeng 1147611501 M * zeng hi benben... 1147611506 M * zeng hi all.. :) 1147611536 M * [PUPPETS]Gonzo Zeng, would it be possible that you have my silver USB Cable from my harddisk? (2x USB-A to USB-mini) 1147611543 M * zeng at last, after days "no-computer days"... my beast is alive again... 1147611584 M * zeng gonzo: not that I know... but I can recheck again... 1147611611 M * [PUPPETS]Gonzo would be nice, thanks. I am pretty sure, derjohn got it, but he says no :) 1147611639 M * BenBen [PUPPETS]Gonzo: derjohn takes what he gets :) 1147611686 M * [PUPPETS]Gonzo you must know it, you've been at his place all night long ;-) 1147611705 M * BenBen umm, no comment :) 1147611715 M * zeng gonzo: sorry don't have it. I have here "schwarze Verlängerungskabel mit 3 steckdose", which is not mine... 1147611738 M * derjohn zeng, "schwarze Verlängerungskabel mit 3" is mine. 0.75 cent @ metro :) 1147611752 M * derjohn I have a serial xover here ... yours? 1147611753 M * [PUPPETS]Gonzo zeng: thanks 1147611757 M * [PUPPETS]Gonzo derjohn: grrr :) 1147611759 M * zeng hi derjohn... 1147611772 M * BenBen hey mr john 1147611774 M * derjohn [PUPPETS]Gonzo, cannot find the cable, but sill looking [at the gallery ;)] 1147611790 A * [PUPPETS]Gonzo kicks johns ass. 1147611790 M * zeng gonzo: login for gallery? 1147611796 M * derjohn BenBen, I am known as the eternal lurker as you may know ;) 1147611804 M * [PUPPETS]Gonzo zeng: want to upload your own pictures? 1147611817 M * derjohn zeng, x-over serial? yours ? 1147611818 M * zeng gonzo: no, just want to view... 1147611843 M * [PUPPETS]Gonzo then you don't need a login :) 1147611850 M * zeng derjohn: yes... cross serial is mine, but don't need it yet... just keep it for you first. 1147611858 M * derjohn [PUPPETS]Gonzo, you should link the video there, too. 1147611859 M * zeng gonzo: i see.. 1147611861 P * ebru- 1147611871 J * maryyy ~chatodasi@85.100.189.186 1147611880 M * maryyy hi 1147611883 M * [PUPPETS]Gonzo derjohn: I'll do the next days, when I found my usb cable 1147611889 M * [PUPPETS]Gonzo Welcome, maryyy! 1147611934 M * zeng gonzo: maybe next time I'll upload some pictures, currently I'm very busy with "no idea" what :) 1147612028 M * zeng milf prepared this, have you all seen it? http://linux-vserver.org/Work+Retreat 1147612252 M * derjohn zeng, pls upload your pics ! 1147612267 M * derjohn zeng, (to keep you busy ;)) 1147612301 M * [PUPPETS]Gonzo zeng: you can send them to me and I'll put them in the gallery - or you can do it yourself - whatever you prefer 1147612320 M * zeng derjohn: yes... I'll doit asap. 1147612430 M * zeng gonzo: I prefer to upload it by myself, if you don't mind :) 1147612461 M * [PUPPETS]Gonzo np 1147612563 Q * Oli Quit: Oli 1147612863 M * BenBen zeng: btw, is there any documentation to your multi-seat-setup planned and/or done by you? 1147612986 M * zeng BenBen: yes... I'm talking with milf regarding this... 1147613001 M * zeng FYI: in the newest c't there is an article regarding multi seat X 1147613025 M * zeng so we are planning, if possible, to publish followup article regarding this 1147613066 M * zeng but we want to __underline__ the possibility with VServer... which is for sure much better than "normal" multi-seat X11 1147613288 M * zeng BenBen: BTW. I'm still trying to "find my time" to finish this... please have a look at http://www.13thfloor.at/~zeng/ 1147613298 M * zeng any feedback regarding the logo? ;) 1147613335 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1147613339 M * Bertl morning folks! 1147613347 M * BenBen hey Bertl 1147613353 M * zeng morning bertl... 1147613364 M * Bertl hey zeng! BenBen! 1147613367 M * zeng bertl: BTW. my 3 head beast is alive again... ;) 1147613377 M * Bertl zeng: ah, good .. 1147613394 M * Bertl zeng: @logo, please make that Linux-VServer if possible :) 1147613400 M * BenBen zeng: i think there is urgently need to have some stuff at the vserver-wiki about it -- and when its only that there is still smth on the way :) 1147613434 M * Bertl zeng: would also be nice to use the colored VS there, let me know if you need an eps for that :) 1147613453 M * zeng Bertl: please be more specific... 1147613472 M * zeng Bertl: which logo should I use? is the VS logo now official? ;) 1147613501 M * Bertl well, it's more 'official' than anything else :) 1147613561 M * Bertl but in general, the name is Linux-VServer 1147613588 M * [PUPPETS]Gonzo hi bertl 1147613589 M * Bertl except for that, a nice logo 1147613593 M * derjohn I think we have a Logo now, but not a mascot 1147613594 M * zeng Bertl: I see... Linux-VServer not VServer only ... 1147613601 M * derjohn zeng, yes 1147613629 M * [PUPPETS]Gonzo bertl: derjohn put his pictures up 1147613636 J * Oli ~skycode@212.224.224.166 1147613637 M * Bertl derjohn: I thought that was Gonzo? :) 1147613656 M * derjohn [PUPPETS]Gonzo, added my pics 1147613658 M * BenBen derjohn: the mascot could be you on the pictures made by morrigan where you fell in love with the ux :) 1147613672 M * BenBen tux even... 1147613679 M * derjohn Bertl, oh, er, you mean the mascot is G. ? 1147613684 M * derjohn Bertl, nooooooooooooooo 1147613694 M * derjohn BenBen, or tux odd ! 1147613704 M * [PUPPETS]Gonzo we could make MS as out mascot :) 1147613714 M * BenBen [PUPPETS]Gonzo: hrhr 1147614226 J * yarihm ~yarihm@217-162-112-21.dclient.hispeed.ch 1147614306 J * Methos ~mjoconr@202.191.99.68 1147614420 M * zeng gonzo: I tried to upload vserver grub bootsplash in gallery... 1147614744 J * Roey ~katz@h-69-3-4-130.mclnva23.covad.net 1147614761 M * Bertl wb yarihm! Methos! hey Roey! 1147614762 M * Roey hi all! 1147614865 M * zeng all: I just uploaded the Linux-VServer GRUB bootsplash, please have a look here: http://gallery.linux-vserver.org/main.php?g2_itemId=16919 1147614887 M * yarihm hi Bertl 1147614892 M * zeng question is, do we want this bootsplash as "official bootsplash" ? 1147614895 M * yarihm brb 1147614901 Q * yarihm Quit: Leaving 1147614927 M * zeng larger image of the bootsplash: http://gallery.linux-vserver.org/main.php?g2_itemId=16924 1147615435 M * BenBen hmm, zeng, why did you upload the splashes to morrigans album? 1147615453 M * Bertl guess that was an acident .) 1147615474 M * BenBen hmm, I guess you guess right :) 1147615492 M * Bertl zeng: looks good 1147615493 M * zeng BenBen: I think I made a mistake on uploading... 1147615505 M * zeng any chance to correct it? 1147615520 M * Bertl zeng: [PUPPETS]Gonzo is the gallery expert 1147615523 M * BenBen I think we need the person you installed the gallery 1147615546 M * zeng gonzo: helppppp ;) 1147615584 M * BenBen zeng: anyhow, the splashes are nice - regardless where they are :) 1147615708 M * zeng Bertl: if we _want_ the bootsplash, how about to put it under /Stuff (I mean here: http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/ ) 1147615772 M * Roey hey Bertl!!!! 1147615773 M * zeng and we can also try to get it into mainstream (official bootsplash images debian package) 1147615777 M * Roey what's up with ngnet? 1147615788 M * Roey I'd like to host openvpn on a vserver sometime 1147615789 M * BenBen why do you want to split content away from the project-homepage? i dont think that this improves the chance to find it? 1147615798 M * Bertl zeng: sure, no problem 1147615815 J * ionewbie pjircuser@c210-49-54-6.kelvn1.qld.optusnet.com.au 1147615816 M * BenBen Roey: http://linux-vserver.org/OpenVPN 1147615824 Q * Methos Remote host closed the connection 1147615829 M * Bertl Roey: first the loopback stuff will happen, then ipv6, and then ngnet 1147615927 M * Roey Bertl: is there an ETA on it? 1147615937 M * Roey BenBen: thanks 1147615961 M * BenBen nP 1147615963 M * Bertl Roey: no, not really, it should have been sponsored 3 month ago, haven't received any word yet, so I can't really tell 1147615995 M * Roey ok 1147615999 M * Roey well thanks though :) 1147616009 M * Roey at least I see that other people want this too 1147616070 M * Bertl after the loopback and ipv6 part, we might consider doing a special trick for tun/tap .. that might help vpn solution (aside from ssh) to work better 1147616389 M * zeng have to leave now. I'try to be online later. Hope to get the multiseat article done asap. milf is going to help me with that. 1147616402 M * zeng see you all and as always... have fUn .... 1147616405 M * zeng bye... 1147616414 M * Bertl cya 1147616452 M * zeng cya Bertl, derjohn, gonzo, benben... all... :) 1147616462 M * ionewbie cya zeng 1147616464 M * ionewbie :) 1147616477 M * derjohn by(t)e zeng ... 1147616505 M * zeng cya ionewbie... 1147616519 P * zeng ... und tschüß 1147616999 Q * ionewbie Quit: http://protiotype.net :: http://talk.to/rejects 1147617056 M * BenBen im away for a while - cu later folks 1147617079 M * Bertl cya 1147619191 J * yarihm ~yarihm@217-162-112-21.dclient.hispeed.ch 1147619259 Q * maryyy Read error: Connection reset by peer 1147619554 Q * mtw Quit: 1147621320 Q * shedi Read error: Connection reset by peer 1147621569 J * stefani ~stefani@c-24-19-46-211.hsd1.wa.comcast.net 1147622160 J * shedi ~siggi@inferno.lhi.is 1147622694 M * Bertl wb stefani! shedi! 1147622699 M * Bertl off for dinner now .. 1147622704 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1147622789 M * stefani hola BenBen 1147622797 M * stefani hola Bertl_oO 1147622801 M * stefani oi. 1147623171 M * Radiance g'evening all :) 1147623175 M * Radiance just finished dinner hehe 1147623251 Q * Viper0482 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1147623265 J * FireEgl Atlantica@2001:5c0:84dc:: 1147623814 J * Viper0482 ~Viper0482@p5497713F.dip.t-dialin.net 1147624760 J * mattr_sf ~matt@p50886837.dip.t-dialin.net 1147625368 Q * Viper0482 Remote host closed the connection 1147625415 J * zeng ~guest@p54A9580C.dip.t-dialin.net 1147625422 M * zeng hi all 1147625664 M * BenBen hey all 1147625670 M * BenBen wb zeng 1147625720 M * zeng hi benben... 1147625725 M * BenBen we should have a little bot at the channel here which can show up the actual bertl-time-zone (btz) :) 1147626355 N * Bertl_oO Bertl 1147626360 M * Bertl back now ... 1147626371 M * Bertl BenBen: guess that would be really a challenge :) 1147626394 M * zeng hi Bertl... 1147626408 M * zeng Bertl: BenBen gone for a while... 1147626420 M * Bertl and the established terminus technicus is BUT (Bertl Universal Timezone) 1147626618 M * zeng Bertl: what is preferred "Linux-VServer" or "Linux VServer" (without dash) ? 1147626764 M * Bertl Linux-VServer 1147626865 M * BenBen Bertl: BUT but needs more documentation :) 1147626907 M * zeng BenBen: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/But 1147626912 M * zeng BenBen: ;) 1147627045 Q * lilalinux Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1147627561 J * lilalinux ~plasma@dslb-084-058-251-120.pools.arcor-ip.net 1147628156 J * attila ~attila@mx.manufacture.co.yu 1147628166 M * Bertl welcome attila! 1147628212 M * zeng Bertl: I just changed the moreubuntu logo: http://www.13thfloor.at/~zeng/ feedback? 1147628331 M * attila hello everybody, I would be grateful if I could get a bit of clarification of what /proc/virtual/*/cacct actually shows 1147628353 M * attila for example, one of my vservers gives the following for INET: 1147628357 M * attila INET: 41752215/18446744071909265872 8198106/18446744072219438621 72310/1157626521 1147628379 M * attila and the second number of columns is way too high for bytes, I think 1147628400 M * Bertl zeng: nice ... 1147628412 M * attila Kernel: 2.6.16-1-vserver-amd64-k8 (debian stock) 1147628413 M * attila VS-API: 0x00020001 1147628438 M * Bertl attila: hmm, indeed the values are quite high ... 1147628471 M * Bertl attila: maybe an overflow occured? 1147628484 M * Bertl 18446744071909265872 -> FFFFFFFF94B1D1D0 1147628537 M * Bertl attila: what vserver patch is used there? 1147628544 M * zeng Bertl: thx. OK. I'll use it officially ;) more to come... 1147628620 M * attila Bertl: 2.01-4, from the debian repository 1147628707 M * Bertl okay, hmm, maybe try with 2.0.2-rc20? 1147628881 M * attila well, it's not that much of a problem (if it's only a numbering overflow, I can compensate for that easier than replace the kernel) 1147628894 M * Bertl it looks like to me 1147628903 M * Bertl the first value is the number of packets 1147628914 M * Bertl which is already quite hight 1147628916 M * Bertl *high 1147628923 M * Bertl 0x027D1697 1147628973 M * Bertl with an average packet size of 66 this already causes a wrap around at 32bit 1147628986 M * attila yes, that machine has quite a bit of traffic 1147629001 M * attila I'm wondering if this happens 'normally' in 32 bit world 1147629017 M * Bertl yes, it is designed to wrap around 1147629026 M * attila (note that this is a 64bit kernel, maybe that adds a twist) 1147629028 M * Bertl but on 64bit it should wrap at 64bits :) 1147629046 M * attila right :) 1147629105 M * attila ok, I think I'll just mask the 32 MSB for now and pretend it's a 32 bit counter... 1147629156 M * Bertl yes, probably the best for now 1147629202 M * attila Just out of curiosity, I know this is not the best place to ask, but any ideas how often do the debian patches get updated ? 1147629244 M * Bertl it really depends, but I guess micah or kilian/waldi might be able to answer that (here on the channel) 1147629274 M * Bertl a lot of recent stuff is in devel/unstable and backports 1147629345 M * attila ok, I'll ask around, tnx for your help ! 1147629361 M * Bertl you're welcome! 1147629781 Q * mattr_sf Quit: Leaving 1147631497 Q * mire Quit: Leaving 1147633170 J * Freddyn ~el_necio5@tdev244-152.codetel.net.do 1147633178 P * Freddyn 1147634419 J * harti ~Hartmut@85-124-100-166.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at 1147634764 J * doener ~doener@i5387F36F.versanet.de 1147634856 M * zeng hi doener... 1147634903 M * doener hi zeng, #vserver 1147634968 M * zeng doener: #vserver? 1147635024 M * zeng doener: is there other zeng here? ;) 1147635066 M * doener nah, that was like saying hi to you and to (folks in) the channel 1147635134 M * zeng doener: I see... (just seldom using irc ;) spoiled by skype) 1147635221 M * zeng doener: checked this? http://linux-vserver.org/Work+Retreat 1147635228 M * doener :) I never got interested in skype, I'm even often annoyed by using the phone, just because it needs you to reply in realtime ;) 1147635258 Q * matvey Quit: leaving 1147635267 M * daniel_hozac yes! finally someone who thinks like me! 1147635308 M * zeng you guys might need some [real] bots for phone ;) 1147635331 M * doener :) 1147635344 M * Hollow i hate phones too ;) 1147635364 M * Hollow most of the time i don't even asnwer it 1147635390 M * zeng hi hollow... 1147635395 M * Hollow hey zeng! 1147635406 M * zeng hollow: ring... ring... ;) 1147635436 M * Hollow fortuentaly noone knows my skype name :P 1147635446 M * Hollow *fortunately 1147635474 M * zeng hollow: skype id == hollow ;) 1147635483 M * Hollow no ;) 1147635493 M * doener hmm... I'd guess "wolloh" or "solid" ;) 1147635500 M * Hollow lol 1147635646 M * zeng hollow: checked this? http://linux-vserver.org/Work+Retreat 1147635704 M * Hollow love this one: code like f*ck *g* 1147635800 M * doener i can't say anything about when I'll have time for that, university will need quite a bit of time from june/july on, probably till october/november 1147635862 M * Hollow ok, added myself to the list 1147635938 M * Skram hey Hollow 1147635941 M * Hollow what is H C OH? 1147635942 M * Hollow ;) 1147635946 M * Hollow i only know T H C 1147635952 M * Skram :) THC. 1147635965 M * Hollow :) 1147635968 M * Skram Hollow: what is the web page for your utils (for gentoo) for vserver? 1147635971 M * Skram brb 1147635982 M * Hollow the new utils are not gentoo related 1147635990 M * Hollow http://dev.croup.de/proj/vserver-utils 1147636027 M * doener Hollow: Google told me it's Formaldehyd-"something", but i guess zeng just means alcohol 1147636029 M * Skram are they compatible? 1147636044 M * Hollow doener: ah ;) 1147636051 M * Hollow Skram: compatible to what? 1147636069 M * Skram one sec 1147636098 M * Skram I have kernel patch 2.0.1 1147636112 M * zeng it helps on f*cking ... ehm... coding ;) 1147636114 M * Hollow will not work 1147636115 M * Skram and i cant reboot the server right now.. so what is the latest version for that kernel patch? 1147636162 M * Hollow Skram: they only work with 2.1 (and probably 2.0.2) 1147636178 M * Skram right. what version of vserver-utils /will/ wprl 1147636206 M * Hollow anyway, i keep saying that vserver-utils won't do you any good atm 1147636220 M * Skram to me? 1147636227 M * Skram ok.. 1147636228 M * daniel_hozac there is no version that will work on 2.0.1. 1147636231 M * Hollow to anyone who does not want to help develop it 1147636241 Q * harti Quit: Client exiting 1147636246 M * Skram Hollow: is there any way to help other than coding? 1147636270 M * Skram website/trac hosting? I may be able to give you a whole dev box sometime. 1147636295 M * Hollow well, if it's x86/amd64 i have enough boxes around ;) 1147636314 M * Skram It would be x86 1147636337 M * Hollow dunno if you can help atm, even writing documentation could be useless for now, because trunk is fast-moving 1147636351 M * Skram Hmm Okay 1147636371 M * Hollow expect a release in Q4 1147636381 M * Skram Hit me up if you ever need anything. mark@sentiensystems.com 1147636383 M * Skram Okay 1147636399 M * Hollow heh 1147636407 M * Hollow now i get you nick :P 1147636411 A * derjohn too ;) 1147636424 M * Skram Mark S == Skram 1147636425 M * Skram :) 1147636552 M * Skram did vserver-stat ever get fixed? 1147636554 M * derjohn Skram, Routing on M20? 5*4 GBit ? That's marketingt foo o 1147636563 M * Skram derjohn: eh? 1147636591 M * derjohn Skram, nearly 30 Gbits ? 1147636598 M * derjohn (took from you website ....) 1147636609 M * Skram Yeapps. 1147636652 M * Skram 27 I believe 1147636876 M * Skram derjohn: http://70.86.176.20/rrd/wan/ graphs from the DC. 1147636886 Q * Dr4g Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1147636976 M * Skram so- did vserver-stat ever get fixed? 1147636982 M * derjohn Skram, wow, respect. All located in TX ? How much of the service is vserver rleated? 1147636992 M * Skram derjohn: we do not own the datacenter. 1147636998 M * Skram we have servers there 1147637016 M * Skram we are a small business starting, but yes, we do a lot of work with VServers and some revenue comes from consulting 1147637045 M * Skram we are trying to target web and unix developers, as most of the other VPS-'hosts' are targeting end-users who just need shared hosting. 1147637059 M * derjohn Skram, with that amount of traffic you cant be that small ... or are the stats aggregated/collected of your uptream? 1147637071 M * Skram and we use Linux-VServer :) Less over head. ALMOST everything we do is OSS. 1147637078 M * Skram derjohn: That is for the whole datacenter we are at 1147637091 M * Skram we also have servers at the above.net datacenter in Virginia 1147637099 M * Skram our main vps node is in this Texas Datacenter. 1147637108 M * derjohn Skram, ah, k, that sounds believeable :) 1147637114 M * Skram :) 1147637121 M * Skram Not trying to lie or anything :) 1147637165 M * derjohn Skram, if am in routing business and asked myself why I didnt hear from your company already ;) 1147637182 M * derjohn Skram, and yes, we have an above.net peering- 1147637186 M * Skram what do you mean you are in the routing business? 1147637190 M * Skram Cool, Cool. 1147637211 M * derjohn Bertl, saw the RE mail of Matt? 1147637219 M * Skram The TX datacenter has a lot of carriers, as you saw, however the one up in Virginia is only AboveNet 1147637244 M * Bertl derjohn: reading up now ... 1147637253 M * Skram derjohn: I am not too technical as far as like C coding the utils, etc. Is that what most of the lists are about? Should I join? 1147637292 M * derjohn Skram, well, besides Linux-based Hosting I run a small to medium sized upstream in Germany, primarily interested in good domestic de-nased traffic. 1147637295 M * derjohn lists? 1147637312 M * Skram derjohn: cool deal. 1147637318 M * Skram derjohn: company for webhosting? 1147637325 M * Skram http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver 1147637329 M * derjohn Skram, well yes, net-lab 1147637336 M * Bertl derjohn: will you handle this or shall I reply? 1147637342 M * derjohn Skram, the Upstream is regio.net ... 1147637354 M * Skram interesting 1147637378 M * Skram site for net-lab? 1147637386 M * derjohn Bertl, I didnt catch hos problem by 100% ... so: If you like to AW ... 1147637408 M * Bertl ok, np, I'll respond within the hour 1147637427 M * derjohn Bertl, seems we solved his probelm partly. Sad, so we wont get DHCP within a guest :/ 1147637447 M * derjohn Bertl, I dont mind, maybe Matt appears here anyway ;) 1147637455 M * derjohn Skram, net-lab.net / Regio.net 1147637461 M * Bertl well, I will look into that too, but dhcp _inside_ is a problem anyways 1147637511 M * Skram ok 1147637520 M * derjohn Bertl, yes and no ... let's say: DHCP on the host, dynamic IP in the guest ;) 1147637545 M * Bertl well, that's already possible (IIRC jacques tools use that) 1147637547 M * Skram wow. i need to learn german so i can talk with y'all 1147637547 M * Skram :P 1147637601 M * derjohn Skram, go on ;) But we use English here mostly. To make Bertl happy and to be more like international players ;) 1147637612 M * daniel_hozac yes, Jacques' tools support DHCP for guests. 1147637626 M * Skram :) 1147637639 M * Skram I know English, some Hebrew, and am learning Japanese. 1147637644 M * derjohn daniel_hozac, only a userspace question? Or is kernel patching involved? 1147637667 M * daniel_hozac userspace only, i think. 1147637689 M * daniel_hozac personally i'm not very fond of the idea. what if the address changes? 1147637791 M * derjohn dan_derson^W daniel_hozac: you may use dhcp to set always the same IP. The guy we are talkign about is from the openqrm project, which manages whole server farm via web-interface and pxe boot. they even roll out the host machine via pxe, all controled by their toolset. they want to integrate vserver into the concept (XEN is already in) 1147637961 M * daniel_hozac i know that, i use static DHCP leases myself. 1147638015 M * derjohn daniel_hozac, i expected you to know that ;) may openqrm was new to me .... 1147638193 M * daniel_hozac yeah, that sounds pretty cool. 1147638223 M * Skram <3 /26 1147638265 M * derjohn daniel_hozac, it sounds like hard work to set it up initially (systemimager golden images, pxe, etc) but the effect could be great ... 1147638271 M * Skram what does openqrm have to do wit vservers 1147638272 M * derjohn Skram, network size? 1147638287 M * Skram derjohn: our vps nodes have /26's 1147638292 M * Skram well, the main one does 1147638297 M * daniel_hozac i agree, initial setup must be a bitch. 1147638304 M * Skram which has a shell server, the others dont have as many IPs 1147638320 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1147638334 M * derjohn Skram, until now: nothing. but now their control panel could be extented not only to roll out a host, but also a guest... a single click and you are done. 1147638360 M * derjohn Skram, the Q was more what " <3 /26" tells me ... 1147638361 M * Skram damn it 1147638364 M * Skram i was going to work on that 1147638378 M * derjohn Skram, what do you want to work on? 1147638381 M * Skram i was making a serial console for customers 1147638389 M * Skram to reboot, see billing info, etc. 1147638394 M * derjohn Skram, there _are_ ongoing projects ... 1147638408 M * Skram much more secure than anything on the web (uses ssh) 1147638408 M * derjohn Skram, with a webinterface 1147638419 M * Skram i wasnt going to do a web interface 1147638427 M * Skram what is one of these that has a web interface 1147638440 M * derjohn Skram, you may give customers ssh login on the host and a sudoers line to enter theit guest 1147638451 M * Skram kinda like tha 1147638451 M * Skram t 1147638454 M * Skram but not 1147638454 M * derjohn Skram, an I hope the customers cant stop the full host :) 1147638460 M * Skram duh 1147638469 M * Skram it is a shell, i wrote with someone in PHP. 1147638508 M * Skram is qrm easy to customize? 1147638511 M * Skram maybe ill install and play 1147638518 M * Skram we dont have /that/ many servers though 1147638524 M * Skram a nice # of VServers running however 1147638553 M * derjohn Skram, I found qrm 1 wekk ago. didnt test yet. 1147638587 M * derjohn Skram, I know about onr AJAX-based ssh-web-interface ... that could fit into the concept. 1147638603 M * derjohn Skram, I mean: the console stuff ... 1147638607 M * Skram onr? 1147638609 M * Skram who's? 1147638611 M * BenBen refoo # 1147638622 M * Skram id be interested in seeing that, actually 1147638629 M * Skram I f it s what i think, i could integrate it with what i am writing 1147638721 M * derjohn onr = one :) 1147638734 M * Skram derjohn: whats it called? 1147638752 M * derjohn Skram, google for it. The Website is in Japanese. _I_ cannot read the name, but you can ;) 1147638762 M * Skram i dont know much japanese 1147638767 M * Skram can read it but probably cant understand 1147638768 M * Skram hrm 1147638843 M * BenBen what are you searching for? 1147638861 M * Skram http://www.google.com/search?hs=NTh&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=ajax+ssh+web+interface+inurl%3Ajp&btnG=Search 1147638864 M * Skram that, derjohn ? 1147638874 M * BenBen ssh-web-interface? seems a bit strange to me 1147638885 M * derjohn BenBen, an AJAX-based ssh-webinterface 1147638890 M * derjohn BenBen, why? 1147638928 M * BenBen some sort of web-console or what? 1147638933 M * Skram its not n eeded 1147638936 M * Skram he just brought it up 1147638946 M * Skram derjohn: would need to install qrm on the host, hrmm 1147638954 M * Skram i dont even like to run a webserver on the host. 1147638975 M * derjohn BenBen, yes. I would like the idea that users could start/stop their guest via webinterface. so why not giving them shell access via that interface, too. 1147638978 M * BenBen hmm, i would like to have my webserver jailed and pinned down to have only what it _really_ needs... not to give someone shellaxx over my webser :) 1147638995 M * Skram yeah 1147639003 M * BenBen webasas 1147639040 M * derjohn BenBen, I heard that some people here use and/or sell single guestst without giving access to the host :) 1147639047 M * derjohn webasas ? 1147639063 M * Skram lol 1147639089 Q * BenBen Quit: Lost terminal 1147639110 M * derjohn Skram, http://b.hatena.ne.jp/t/ssh http://www.atmarkit.co.jp/fnetwork/rensai/tcp27/01.html 1147639122 M * derjohn Skram, I *think* it was one of them ... 1147639123 M * zeng derjohn: heard about monit? any one works on it for vserver? 1147639139 J * BenBen ~benny@defiant.wavecon.de 1147639141 M * derjohn zeng, I heard about it in conjuction with munin 1147639143 M * BenBen re 1147639148 M * Skram http://ajaxssh.bz2.jp/demo/ that work for anyone? 1147639152 M * zeng BenBen: heard about monit? any one works on it for vserver? 1147639153 M * Skram wtf is munin? 1147639164 M * derjohn BenBen: has quit (Quit: Lost terminal) <-- was my comment to devasting ? :) 1147639172 M * zeng Skram: munit + monit = nice tools 1147639192 M * derjohn Skram, hm, a plotter/graph-plugin for nagios. 1147639198 M * derjohn Skram, at least initially. 1147639207 M * BenBen derjohn: seems so... not for me, but for my screen :) 1147639214 M * zeng i mean munin 1147639228 M * Skram ok 1147639238 M * derjohn Skram, http://ajaxssh.bz2.jp/demo/ <---- can we trust that site? I would love to test ;) 1147639245 M * Skram i bet not 1147639250 M * Skram i didnt even get prompted for my password 1147639261 M * Skram i plugged in details for a dumb ssh acct 1147639263 M * derjohn Skram, maybe the revenge for pearl harbor? 1147639270 M * Skram they can have my username. 1147639275 M * Skram LOL 1147639282 M * BenBen zeng: monit was this nice,little tool which was able to monitor processes or grps of procs for defined parameters, nor? 1147639321 M * zeng BenBen: yep... any idea if there might exist "extension"/"plugins" for vserver? 1147639336 M * derjohn Skram, where is the src of the ssh-foo? /me rethinks ... must install an ispman ... custome work ... gotta stop to chat .... 1147639346 M * BenBen hmm, to monitor the guests from inside the host? 1147639350 M * BenBen dont think so 1147639362 M * derjohn BenBen, h01ger made such a plugin for munin. 1147639381 M * derjohn BenBen, to see how the cpu load goes ... 1147639382 M * BenBen hmm, derjohn, dont know munin... url? 1147639393 M * zeng ping h0lger... 1147639405 M * derjohn BenBen, I dont knwo to. only from holgers and and zeng's hearsay :) 1147639415 M * zeng derjohn: info site for munin + vserver plugin 1147639420 M * BenBen Hugin and Munin are the ravens of the Norse god king Odin <= not the thing i was looking for :) 1147639426 M * BenBen http://www.allweil.net/blog/item/113/ 1147639434 M * BenBen http://munin.projects.linpro.no/ 1147639437 M * BenBen there is it 1147639444 M * derjohn lol 1147639458 M * derjohn lin.pr0no :) 1147639476 M * derjohn 1147639482 M * daniel_hozac lol 1147639488 M * BenBen *g* 1147639495 M * zeng got this message: Vserver 1147639495 M * zeng * will be published real soon. ask on #vserver on OFTC on http://munin.projects.linpro.no/wiki/PluginCat 1147639506 M * BenBen whats about zabbix, netmrg, cacti, nagios? 1147639514 M * daniel_hozac http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/pkg-vserver/people/holger/munin-plugins/ 1147639521 M * derjohn BenBen, and "mon" (what I use) 1147639535 M * BenBen we use netmrg atm 1147639577 M * zeng daniel_hozac: thx... 1147639581 M * derjohn daniel_hozac, I cant get rid of the feeling you are becomming disloyal .... :) 1147639599 M * derjohn daniel_hozac, posting debian urls :) 1147639625 M * doener nah, he's just distro agnostic, like Linux-VServer is ;) 1147639660 M * daniel_hozac hehe. 1147639706 M * derjohn doener, Bertl is the only distro agnostic here :) 1147639738 M * doener daniel_hozac: btw, did you read the CVE description for the fcntl_setlease issue? IMHO it's a little weird... and you lost a part of your name there ;) 1147639740 M * zeng but not yahoo agnostic (new word I learned during LT2006 ;) ) ... 1147639759 M * derjohn zeng, *lol* 1147639804 M * daniel_hozac doener: yeah, it was a bit backwards. hmm, where's my name in either? 1147639805 M * Bertl :) 1147639862 M * zeng Bertl: BTW interesting translation of agnostic in dict.leo.org, I just checked it ;) 1147639977 M * doener daniel_hozac: sorry, it wasn't the CVE but the FRSIRT entry that I meant 1147639999 M * daniel_hozac ah, haha, yes. 1147640085 M * doener wow, securityfocus is damn broken... lists dozens of vulnerable kernels to make sure everyone really knows that he is affected, but can't handle the -stable series... 1147640089 M * doener http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/17943 1147640096 M * daniel_hozac yeah, i noticed that too. 1147640155 M * derjohn daniel_hozac, yes, you noticed the bug ;) 1147640207 M * derjohn daniel_hozac, Not Vulnerable: Linux kernel 2.6.16 vs. Linux kernel 2.6.16 13 ? Whats the truth please? 1147640216 M * daniel_hozac 2.6.16.16. 1147640224 M * derjohn *heul* 1147640309 M * daniel_hozac and i wonder if securityfocus verified that the vulnerability is present in all those ancient kernels. 1147640365 M * derjohn doener, they mention "Björn" :) 1147640393 Q * dna Quit: Verlassend 1147640405 M * Wonka wah. so many germans here 1147640412 M * Wonka now even one from my regiion 1147640420 M * Wonka kielnet.net... 1147640466 M * doener derjohn: yeah, it's a gamble to use umlauts on the net... but i'm just too lazy to avoid them 1147640479 M * derjohn Wonka, isnt Phreak'' from that area (Roter Sand ....) 1147640497 M * derjohn doener, Well, Döner :9 1147640503 M * doener 2.6.16.16 changelog even has two different versions of my name 1147640512 M * doener (both broken of course ;) 1147640515 M * daniel_hozac haha, yeah. 1147640521 M * Wonka derjohn: could be... Rothensande or something is around here 1147640528 M * Wonka doener: *g* 1147640538 M * derjohn Wonka, he mentioned to be from the most northern part of .de 1147640558 A * Wonka is NWN of Kiel 1147640561 M * derjohn doener, well, they tend to write Bertl real name wong, too ;) 1147640561 M * Bertl doener: don't worry, my name is several times in the kernel, not always spelled correctly :) 1147640577 M * Wonka *grml* mine isn't. yet.. 1147640588 M * derjohn hey, you folks all have odd names ;) 1147640626 M * Wonka where would be the fun if we hadn't? 1147640647 M * derjohn Well, wow daniel_hozac and doener now habe an own mainline kernel release! /me bows before them! 1147640648 M * doener Bertl: well, if I'd care, I would not be so damn lazy about it ;) 1147640661 M * daniel_hozac hehe. 1147640671 M * daniel_hozac derjohn: everyone else probably wants to slap us :P 1147640673 M * derjohn the Double D release ;) 1147640681 M * doener derjohn: Kudos go to Daniel, I've just been lucky to spot a second attack vector 1147640708 M * derjohn Lord Vader, the Rebels may have spotted ... *wrong channel* 1147640976 Q * Oli Quit: Oli 1147641057 M * BenBen hmm, html is disabled in the vserver-wiki - want to play with the layout in the sandbox *grmpf* 1147641121 M * derjohn BenBen, I think to aviod spam and malware. did you ever have to fight guestbook spam ? 1147641368 M * BenBen hmm, the possibilities of the wiki are some sort of... 1147641371 M * BenBen ... restricted :) 1147641383 M * derjohn BenBen, I agree :) 1147641418 M * Bertl feel free to transfer everything to mediawiki (preserving the current functionality, of course) 1147641426 M * BenBen i had a look on some other oss-projects with tikkitavitoviwiki (or whatever this "thing" is called) and found some nice frontpage ideas 1147641439 M * BenBen but all of them are compiled by html-parts :) 1147641449 M * derjohn BenBen, BenBen , the trac-idea dies? 1147641452 M * derjohn *died 1147641499 M * BenBen hmm, not really, ben_ called me up on this but it makes only sense if there is a complete change in the development model (svn, tickets, roadmap etc...) 1147641516 M * zeng I thought drupal might be nice... (see www.drupal.org) 1147641520 M * BenBen and Im in doubt if this is possible here 1147641547 M * zeng but someone in channel said, drupal is still _not_ there yet. i.e. bad... (can anybody confirm this?) 1147641561 M * zeng I just love the idea of "book" in drupal... 1147641563 M * BenBen not _there_? 1147641568 M * BenBen whats "there"? 1147641593 M * derjohn hehe. sounds like the geeks' discussion which distro their new server shoudl run on. after hours of quarrels the decided to take freebsd. 1147641601 M * zeng BenBen: not "ready" yet, as promised (promoted) in feature list ... 1147641607 M * derjohn *linux distro 1147641630 M * BenBen dont look at it in detail, but if we want a cms-system there are a couple of solutions 1147641642 M * BenBen same thing when we talk about wikis 1147641655 M * derjohn zeng, hm its a cms. usually not for anonymous collaboration .... 1147641671 M * zeng derjohn: well I think "usability" and "maintainbility" are the points here. 1147641691 M * BenBen but when we want some sort of scm (source-code-management)-solution which covers the needs of an oss-project explicit, there is no other than trac which i know of 1147641698 M * zeng derjohn: AFAIK drupal allows anonymous collaboration... (not really check it though...) 1147641748 M * Bertl I don't think that we have a need for a 'central' source code management solution 1147641757 M * derjohn zeng, they metion having manuals. and they are foss. I am scared. 1147641764 M * BenBen hmm, I see... the first thing we need to face, is the question what is really needed and wanted :) 1147641768 M * Bertl otherwise both the git and the svn approach would have been used 1147641778 M * derjohn git for vserver? 1147641790 M * Bertl we do not even use the bugzilla yet, although it should work quite fine ... 1147641796 M * derjohn noone can really use it. 1147641808 M * derjohn nox, we have Bertlzilla :) 1147641813 M * BenBen Bertl: my vote for trac wasnt because its source-code management... 1147641823 M * Bertl I think all developers use their own way of maintaining the code, and I'd prefer to leave that as is ... 1147641837 M * BenBen ... it was caused by its integration between sourcecode, wiki, timeline, tickets etc 1147641856 M * Bertl BenBen: otoh, changing the wiki to a more performant version (maybe adding a few features) is something I have no objections 1147641874 M * Bertl IMHO mediawiki would be the first choice here 1147641884 M * derjohn BenBen, and we should consider opening a branch of util-vserver and maybe Hollow 's stuff. On one platform. 1147641901 M * BenBen Bertl: dont you think a more transparent solution will be help to get more active developers into the project? 1147641929 M * derjohn BenBen, maybe the src-code management can be a separated solution. 1147641944 M * Bertl BenBen: please explain 'more transparent' 1147641945 M * derjohn BenBen, I fully afree (even I dont code ...) 1147641949 M * derjohn *agree 1147642023 M * derjohn Bertl, e.g. the main source not lying around on your private domain? Having a system where people can comment or check out an older branch with a special feature that does not cleanly apply to 'HEAD'? 1147642039 M * derjohn Bertl, and of course a bugtracker ... 1147642042 M * BenBen more transparent, as in all in one place with clear structure... and with the possibility to follow changes and development and to step in where i want 1147642048 M * zeng smells like we need _git_, igit... ;) 1147642062 M * derjohn zeng, *g* 1147642069 M * Bertl derjohn: that would just mean more work for me, but if you want to maintain something like that, please go ahead 1147642073 M * BenBen zeng: git? 1147642092 M * derjohn BenBen, the kernel code is maintained with 'git' 1147642095 M * Bertl I will sooner or later switch to git, I guess 1147642114 M * Bertl but currently I do not consider it simple enough for my purposes 1147642123 M * BenBen Bertl: how do you maintain your code atm? 1147642134 M * zeng Bertl: yep... please do so, maybe than linux-vserver will find its way faster to mainstream kernel... ;) 1147642138 M * derjohn Bertl, hm, the idea is that you have more time for important stuff :) 1147642153 M * Bertl I have a huge forrest of hard linked kernel trees 1147642179 M * Bertl I also have some scripts which generate the diffs for me 1147642183 M * BenBen Bertl: what could be simpler than do an "svn up" and write some lines about what have been done? 1147642190 M * zeng BTW. git has currently many "nice" GUI starting from console to WEB... 1147642202 M * Bertl BenBen: svn is suited for kernel development for several reasons 1147642203 M * BenBen even things like changelog-generation etc will be done in this way 1147642209 M * Bertl *not suited 1147642244 M * Bertl one reason is that you would end up pulling/commiting huge amounts of data 1147642246 M * doener BenBen: try to import a few kernel releases into a svn repo... ;) see you next year 1147642269 M * Bertl another reason is the inability to cope with cross tree merges 1147642304 M * BenBen hmm, ok, whats about to have only the patches in the "frontend-scm"? 1147642318 M * Bertl BenBen: feel free to check them in 1147642371 M * doener doesn't get you much... many of the scm features are useless if you check in patches... eg. a plain diff of two patches is crap 1147642371 M * BenBen the checkin is not the problem, the problem is, that someone is needed who describes the changes between 1147642406 M * Bertl BenBen: well, then you have to hang around here and collect the deltas 1147642421 M * Bertl each one is proposed and discussed here 1147642447 M * doener something like git works well and we could at some point integrate gitweb, which should do quite well for the purpose of easy fetching of different patch versions _and_ deltas 1147642496 M * derjohn doener, BenBen which sounds more and more like having a wiki and a src mgmt (separated) ... 1147642532 M * BenBen hmm, ok git... 1147642541 M * doener derjohn: hm, did you miss the word "integrate" in my sentence? ;) of course that will take some effort, but should be possible 1147642543 M * derjohn BenBen, i-gitt ;) 1147642556 M * BenBen if we talk about trac and git, there seems to be work in progress (or tbd) 1147642563 M * BenBen http://projects.edgewall.com/trac/wiki/VersioningSystemBackend 1147642606 M * doener hm, still the same page as about a year ago? ;) supporting multiple backends for trac has been a topic for ages now 1147642636 M * Skram ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 1147642657 M * derjohn Skram, broken keycap ? 1147642659 M * sid3windr how hard can it be(tm) 1147642690 M * doener derjohn: advanced "--- mark ---" ;) 1147642721 M * derjohn doener, --- kram --- :) 1147642733 J * Aiken ~james@tooax6-140.dialup.optusnet.com.au 1147642998 M * BenBen ok, i think we need a plan [tm] :) 1147643015 M * BenBen does anyone have one? 1147643124 M * derjohn BenBen, yes, my .plan is to give my vote to you :) 1147643151 M * derjohn BenBen, my ¤.02: mediawiki+webgit 1147643204 M * BenBen :) 1147643283 M * Bertl if somebody provides a script which opens a vi or so, where I type a few lines (or just one line), which I can use to submit and categorize a delta for one of the three branches (for different kernel versions), I'd be glad to use that in addition to upload them 1147643316 M * sid3windr trac r teh rox! 1147643335 M * Bertl the requirements seem quite simple but the devil is in the detail ... so be prepared to write a smart script :) 1147643356 M * BenBen Bertl: you took the words out of my mouth :) 1147643517 M * zeng Bertl: vi plugins for mozilla ;) hm... nice + lecker ... I know ssh applet ;) 1147643527 M * doener Bertl: hm, could you elaborate the requirements? 1147643554 M * Bertl well, sure, the following patterns have been observed: 1147643583 M * Bertl - deltas apply to specific branches 1147643603 M * Bertl + some deltas apply unmodified to more than one branch 1147643632 M * Bertl + some deltas have two (or more) 'forms' for different branches 1147643649 M * Bertl + some deltas are incremental to a previous one (similar named) 1147643660 M * Bertl + others replace a previous delta 1147643711 M * Bertl of course I do not want to type the same text twice 1147643731 M * BenBen humm, the question which is atm in my mind is, how do other projects which face these problems go to manage this? 1147643741 M * Bertl - sometimes we decide to remove/revert a delta 1147643755 Q * softi42 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1147643778 M * Bertl I think that's it, at least for what I can remember right now 1147643814 M * zeng BTW: just found this: http://mozex.mozdev.org and http://www.vim.org/tips/tip.php?tip_id=581 (Using vim to view source and edit textarea in mozilla/firebird) ;) 1147643846 M * zeng Bertl: I hope you're not mozilla/firebird agnostic ;) 1147643906 M * Bertl zeng: personally I use galeon, but I can work quite fine with mozilla/firebird, opera, netscape and many others, just IE is not my style :) 1147643933 M * Bertl zeng: on the command line I prefer lynx and links :) 1147643992 M * zeng Bertl: me too, but "forced" to use IE due to marketers ... :( 1147644049 M * BenBen zeng: you have my condolence :) 1147644050 M * zeng BenBen: mediawiki+webgit+vim plugin ;) 1147644082 M * BenBen thats fine by me :) 1147644127 M * BenBen my focus is to have the project as a whole a bit "zugaenglicher"/accessible... 1147644231 M * BenBen the this can be reached can be versatile 1147644244 M * BenBen ... steps ... 1147644322 M * doener Bertl: what exactly would "submit" mean for that script? 1147644347 M * Bertl well, that depends on where the results are stored .. basically it is a commit 1147644364 M * zeng BenBen: cut&paste the requirement and put in on http://linux-vserver.org/Work+Retreat ;) (or is it already on wiki? ) 1147644371 J * softi42 ~softi@p549D4B5F.dip.t-dialin.net 1147644411 M * doener Bertl: yeah, I actually wanted to know what and where that is to be stored... just ChangeLog entries, or include uploading patches etc.pp. 1147644439 M * doener and ChangeLog in the wiki or local or raboof... 1147644447 M * BenBen zeng: thats the problem, to find the requirements and possible solutions which will satisfy all of them 1147644448 M * Bertl imho a directory, and a changelog page in the wiki would be best 1147644540 M * BenBen Bertl: which directory do you mean? 1147644555 Q * micah Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1147644577 M * Bertl BenBen: something like this vserver.13thfloor.at/Devel 1147644653 M * doener Bertl: ok, so we need a script that accepts the name of some delta(s), opens vi(m), allows you to write a small text, classify the deltas (branch etc.), stores information in a local ChangeLog(s) ( and data file ) and updates the correct ChangeLog(s) in the wiki and maybe start scp to upload the deltas. that's about all (assuming that the above requirements are met), right? 1147644713 M * doener ok, guess we need a s/maybe// ;) 1147644748 M * Bertl yep, that's it, the 'options' could be on command line or in the text as check fields 1147644796 M * doener I'd go for the latter (using a template like mutt does for emails when header editing is enabled) 1147644818 M * Bertl yep, that would be fine for me, something like: 1147644835 M * Bertl Stable [ ], Devel [ ] ... 1147644843 M * Bertl where I just add an X there :) 1147644948 Q * ntrs Quit: Leaving 1147644950 M * BenBen hmm, is it right, when i think, that there will be no scm atm? 1147645002 M * Radiance nice domain, 13thfloor, the movie was awesome 1147645018 M * Bertl yep, one of my favorites ... 1147645028 M * doener BenBen: not before Bertl likes (co)git(o) enough to use it ;) 1147645077 M * BenBen ok, at this point i give up and face up the wiki... ;) 1147645086 M * Radiance me too 1147645188 M * BenBen mediawiki is fine... dokuwiki is the alternative which we are using internally for docu-purposes... its also nice... i think, for the work, which is to be done, its negligible which one to use... but i think mediawiki is the right choice caused by its broad deployment-base 1147645224 J * micah ~micah@208.99.202.72 1147645255 M * Skram Indeed. 1147645268 M * zeng guys... I started this http://linux-vserver.org/MediaWiki+GIT , please finish (complete) it up, since I have to go to sleep now.... tomorrow is another "long..." day ;) 1147645278 M * Bertl s 1147645283 M * Bertl *sorry* 1147645337 M * daniel_hozac wasn't someone working on moving the wiki to mediawiki before? 1147645338 M * doener g'night zeng 1147645366 M * zeng have fUn you all... good night... 1147645408 M * BenBen zeng: good night and i will have a look at your mail tomorrow :) 1147645426 M * Bertl good night zeng! 1147645428 M * zeng bye all. 1147645454 P * zeng ... und tschüß 1147645573 M * doener Bertl: btw, did you receive any mail about the Libre Software Meeting? (mail would have arrived in April I guess) 1147645603 M * Bertl hmm, doesn't ring a bell, shall I search for it? 1147645610 M * doener I found this page today and then found out that the mail sent to me was eaten by my procmail rules for some unknown reason.. http://prog.rmll.info/wakka.php?wiki=ThemeKernel 1147645639 M * doener nah, just wondered if they already contacted you, because it feels a little strange that I'm listed there, but you are not ;) 1147645703 M * doener Wrote a mail to the guy that contacted me and asked him to resend the mail, included a notice that he should probably contact you as well 1147645747 J * Blissex ~Blissex@82-69-39-138.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk 1147645995 M * BenBen some refinements done: http://linux-vserver.org/MediaWiki+GIT every input is welcome :) 1147646449 P * attila 1147646972 Q * yarihm Quit: Leaving 1147647193 Q * Blissex Remote host closed the connection 1147647203 M * BenBen getting some sleep now... good night # 1147647221 M * derjohn Bertl, the guy of Libre Software Meeting left also a fyler at the linuxtag booth (mentioning he knows vserver and jaques personally) 1147647228 M * derjohn BenBen, n8 ! 1147647250 M * BenBen n8 mr john :) 1147647270 M * derjohn BenBen, n8 Ben da Ben :) 1147647336 M * BenBen :) afk now 1147648179 J * gebura ~gebura@AOrleans-151-1-38-146.w83-199.abo.wanadoo.fr 1147648274 M * gebura hello 1147648281 M * gebura is somebody here? 1147648303 M * gebura i get some problems using mysql on vservers 1147648356 M * doener would you mind sharing some details? :) 1147648415 M * gebura hum, i think mysql does nt want to run without any loopback 1147648449 M * gebura /usr/bin/mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed \n error: 'Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)' \n Check that mysqld is running and that the socket: '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' exists!\n 1147648484 M * doener well, that's totally unrelated to the loopback device, as its using a unix socket ;) 1147648500 M * doener I guess you confirmed that mysql is actually running, right? 1147648508 M * doener and does the socket file exist? 1147648560 M * gebura no it did nt start 1147648573 M * gebura and the socket file dont exist 1147648637 M * doener any messages in the mysql error log? 1147648683 M * gebura no... 1147648831 M * gebura i read something that say that mysql dont want run without loopback interface, isnt true? 1147648864 M * doener well, loopback just doesn't show up in the vserver. and mysql is running quite well in a vserver here 1147648982 M * doener try starting mysql just using "mysqld_safe", that should tell you if any errors occur 1147649144 M * gebura i get this : Starting mysqld daemon with databases from /var/lib/mysql \n mysqld_safe[5018]: started \n STOPPING server from pid file /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.pid \n mysqld_safe[5024]: ended 1147649165 Q * micah Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1147649188 M * doener did you press ctrl+c? 1147649219 M * doener or did it quit on its own? 1147649247 M * gebura it quit its own 1147649306 M * doener hm, and when started using plain "mysqld"? 1147649456 M * gebura 060515 1:42:47 Can't start server: Bind on TCP/IP port: Cannot assign requested address \n 060515 1:42:47 Do you already have another mysqld server running on port: 3306 ? \ n 060515 1:42:47 Aborting 1147649506 M * doener and, do you? ;) try: chcontext --ctx 1 netstat -tnlp | grep 3306 1147649516 M * doener ... on the host system 1147649568 M * gebura hum nothing running on 1147649698 M * gebura on the port 3306 1147649708 M * doener hm, so there's nothing using port 3306? did you assign _any_ ip address to the vserver? 1147649756 M * s0undt3ch this might sound like a stupid question, but what's the diff between a domain and a realm? p.s. I know what a domain is ;) 1147649807 M * gebura yes i assing a local adress (192.168....) 1147649928 M * gebura the problem it s that if i give acces to 127.0.0.1 to mysql (putting it on IPROOt) it run 1147649943 M * gebura but only on one vserver in the same time 1147649965 M * gebura that s why i speak about localhost problem 1147650001 M * s0undt3ch is realm the "pretty name" of a domain? 1147650004 M * doener that is because there's only one 127.0.0.1 address and so the port is already in use 1147650036 M * doener there are some patches being worked on that will provide per-vserver 127.0.0.1 1147650105 M * doener atm 127.0.0.1 gets rewritten to the vserver's first assigned ip address, and therefore using 127.0.0.1 should not cause any failures like that 1147650108 M * gebura hum interesting (the patch) 1147650244 M * gebura do you know any other way to having this working ? 1147650261 M * gebura (i have the host and the vserver(s) on debian) 1147650540 M * doener i have zero problems with that setup and I'm out of ideas for that problem... Bertl, any idea? 1147650783 M * gebura hum perhaps this may help you: 1147650785 M * gebura /etc/init.d/vprocunhide restart 2>&1| less 1147650805 M * gebura Fixing visibility of /proc entries for Vservers.../proc/net/: Bad address \n /proc/net/pnp: Bad address \n /proc/net/packet: Bad address 1147650808 M * gebura etc... 1147650855 M * gebura /etc/init.d/vprocunhide restart 2>&1| wc -l \n 407 \n 1147650861 M * doener hm, did testme.sh succeed? 1147650887 M * gebura yes 1147650905 M * doener what arch is that? 1147650940 M * Bertl bad address is interesting indeed ...