1146787241 Q * ntrs Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1146787417 J * ntrs ~ntrs@68-188-51-87.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com 1146787907 Q * ntrs Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1146788162 J * ntrs ~ntrs@68-188-51-87.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com 1146791283 Q * ben_ Quit: 1146791296 M * Skram 19:49 < SkramX> for portage to be shared, only /usr/portage needs to be mounted on the guests? 1146791299 M * Skram 19:49 < SkramX> should they still need to do emerge sync or what? 1146791300 M * Skram *shrug& 1146791302 M * Skram 19:50 < SkramX> /usr/portage on /usr/portage type none (bind,ro) 1146791305 M * Skram 19:50 < SkramX> /usr/portage/distfiles on /usr/portage/distfiles type none (bind,rw) 1146791308 M * Skram 19:50 < SkramX> but doing am emerge package, shows old packages.. 1146796012 J * hillct ~H@client200-5.dsl.intrex.net 1146796022 M * hillct evening all 1146796091 M * hillct daniel_hozac: ping 1146796223 M * hillct I'm trying to understand the numerical value VaVaVoom in /proc/virtual//sched which appears to scale in exactly the oposite way as would be intuitive 1146796248 M * hillct seems that geater negative values indicate higher performance 1146796253 M * hillct overall performance 1146796295 M * hillct is that accurate? I presume that's overly simplistic though 1146798968 Q * mkhl Quit: 1146799494 J * agui ~agui@219.134.247.113 1146799550 Q * agui Quit: 1146800203 M * hillct I'm trying to work out the optimal vsched settings for a mod_perl/apache hosting vserver 1146800222 M * hillct seeing occasional massive delays 1146800251 M * hillct but most times, pages fly by 1146800702 M * daniel_hozac what's your minimum and fill rate? 1146800888 M * hillct root@vmaster ~]# cat /proc/virtual/40/sched 1146800888 M * hillct Token: 500 1146800888 M * hillct FillRate: 1 1146800888 M * hillct Interval: 4 1146800888 M * hillct TokensMin: 15 1146800889 M * hillct TokensMax: 500 1146800889 M * hillct PrioBias: 0 1146800891 M * hillct VaVaVoom: -5 1146800981 M * daniel_hozac you should have your fill rate and interval be in the 20-500 range. 1146801050 M * hillct ah 1146801066 M * daniel_hozac and i guess those settings would put the context on hold for 60 ticks once the bucket is empty. 1146801080 M * hillct ok, I have two processors. I want to utilize 1/8th of the CPU capacity for this vserver 1146801221 M * daniel_hozac so... fill rate = 20, interval = 160, unless my math is off. 1146801292 M * hillct yup 1146801298 M * hillct testing now 1146801482 M * hillct this does seem to be working better 1146801493 M * hillct neess more testing but looks good 1146801496 M * hillct thanks 1146801500 M * hillct one other question 1146801527 M * hillct I'm seeing console freezes when logged into the host server 1146801644 M * hillct no idea of the source. I wonder if there's a way to garentee the host a certain amount of resources much as for the vserver instances 1146802003 M * daniel_hozac you're not guaranteeing anything for the guests. 1146802050 M * daniel_hozac you could always give the host's processes a higher nice value. 1146802250 M * daniel_hozac (higher meaning lower :)) 1146806116 Q * balbir Quit: Leaving 1146807063 Q * s0undt3ch Read error: Connection reset by peer 1146807137 Q * _are_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1146809611 J * s0undt3ch ~s0undt3ch@bl7-243-107.dsl.telepac.pt 1146809614 Q * s0undt3ch Quit: 1146811011 N * Bertl_oO Bertl_LT 1146811015 M * Bertl_LT morning folks! 1146811115 J * balbir ~balbir@59.145.136.1 1146811188 J * s0undt3ch ~vampas@bl7-245-3.dsl.telepac.pt 1146811245 M * Bertl_LT welcome balbir! s0undt3ch! 1146811251 M * Bertl_LT daniel_hozac: ping? 1146811411 M * s0undt3ch yeah, I had forgoten to enable iptables kernel support ;) 1146811669 M * eyck yeah, who needs iptables 1146811673 M * eyck iptables are overrated 1146812128 M * s0undt3ch well, I was strugling with my comp/kernel for at least an hour because of that, I was using an old kernel config file, and probably stuff just changed place, namings 1146812135 M * s0undt3ch now I can get some sleep 1146812146 J * chelli ~thomas@PC1.ideolabs.TGZ-Ilmenau.de 1146812157 M * s0undt3ch see you all tomorrow 1146812174 M * s0undt3ch ... where the real vserver struggle begins 1146812415 J * _coocoon_ ~coocoon@p54A06782.dip.t-dialin.net 1146812439 M * _coocoon_ morning 1146812927 M * Bertl_LT welcome chelli! _coocoon_! 1146812997 M * chelli hi 1146813104 M * _coocoon_ hey bertl 1146813220 Q * s0undt3ch Quit: Leaving 1146814422 J * pagano ~pagano@lappagano.cnaf.infn.it 1146814593 M * Bertl_LT welcome pagano! 1146814602 M * pagano hi bert, all :( 1146814609 M * pagano ops ;-) 1146814817 Q * anonc Max SendQ exceeded 1146815363 M * BenBen hey all 1146815639 M * Bertl_LT hey BenBen! 1146817336 J * insomnia1 ~insomniac@slackware.it 1146817336 Q * insomniac Read error: Connection reset by peer 1146817379 Q * LinuxTag Remote host closed the connection 1146818275 Q * shedi Quit: Leaving 1146818683 J * Hollow_mobile ~hollow@217.19.180.112 1146818699 M * Hollow_mobile aloah 1146818724 M * _coocoon_ hello 1146818846 J * morrigan morrigan@212.16.62.52 1146818855 M * morrigan re 1146819649 Q * Hollow_mobile Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1146819663 M * _coocoon_ hello morrigan 1146819901 J * ntrs_ ~ntrs@68-188-51-87.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com 1146819902 Q * ntrs Read error: Connection reset by peer 1146821058 J * shedi ~siggi@tolvudeild-201.lhi.is 1146822311 J * lilalinux ~plasma@dslb-084-058-236-082.pools.arcor-ip.net 1146824334 J * hijacker ~hijacker@cable-84-43-140-185.mnet.bg 1146824344 M * hijacker hi all 1146824401 M * hijacker what exact kernel option is missing when the vserver start complains that the kernel does not provide network virtualization ? 1146824451 M * _coocoon_ which util-vserver version do u use 1146824462 M * hijacker latest experimental 1146824464 M * hijacker rc19 1146824481 M * hijacker upps 1146824490 M * hijacker 0.30.210 1146824509 M * hijacker that is the kernel patch -> 2.1.1-rc19 1146824540 M * _coocoon_ try to configure it with this switch --enable-apis=NOLEGACY, then it must work u can test it with testme.sh 1146824576 M * _coocoon_ now testme.sh must show chbind error 1146824640 M * hijacker yes 1146824645 M * hijacker precisely, it does show error 1146824649 M * hijacker i will try 1146824653 M * hijacker one minute 1146824711 M * hijacker what's the enable-apis for ? and what does nolegacy mean in that context? 1146825122 J * _are_ ~are@p54A0B82F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1146825339 N * BenBen BenBen_onthewaytolt 1146825474 M * hijacker _coocoon_, that resolved the problem 1146825476 M * hijacker thank you 1146825484 M * _coocoon_ yq 1146825486 M * _coocoon_ yw 1146825520 M * _coocoon_ hijacker: have had the same problem 1146825533 M * hijacker ah, i see 1146825538 M * hijacker ;-) 1146826098 Q * hijacker Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1146826567 J * hijacker_ ~hijacker@cable-84-43-140-185.mnet.bg 1146826808 Q * wenchien Quit: Terminated with extreme prejudice - dircproxy 1.0.5 1146826893 Q * softi42 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1146827098 J * jesse_ ~wenchien@221-169-69-23.adsl.static.seed.net.tw 1146827120 N * jesse_ wenchien 1146827239 J * Viper0482 ~Viper0482@p54976CBA.dip.t-dialin.net 1146827243 Q * pagano Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1146827436 J * kilgur user@p50813EB1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1146827516 J * softi42 ~softi@p549D5F53.dip.t-dialin.net 1146828607 J * yarihm ~yarihm@vpn-global-000-dhcp.ethz.ch 1146828963 Q * Aiken Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1146830142 M * daniel_hozac Bertl_LT: pong 1146830239 M * daniel_hozac hijacker_: because you configured your kernel to show a legacy version, you need utils with the legacy APIs enabled by NOLEGACY. 1146830264 J * pagano ~pagano@lappagano.cnaf.infn.it 1146830889 Q * Viper0482 Remote host closed the connection 1146831388 M * daniel_hozac Bertl_LT: the new PLM tests look a lot better IMHO, just "Should it be static?" and "Using plain integer as NULL pointer" now. 1146831659 J * Ben81 ~Ben81@tipi0e.lri.fr 1146831757 M * Ben81 can i run a Vserver 64 bit on a 64 bit physical machine ? 1146832141 M * daniel_hozac yep, as long as your host kernel is 64-bit. 1146832193 M * Ben81 ok 1146832226 M * mnemoc has someone here mixed xen and vserver on the same host? 1146832246 M * daniel_hozac vserver in the xen0? 1146832285 M * daniel_hozac ray6 ran a vserver kernel in a domU, if that's what you mean. 1146832533 M * Wonka now, they're completely off the hook... linux-image-2.6.16-1-xen-vserver-686 1146832551 M * Wonka er 1146832552 M * Wonka lol 1146832574 M * Wonka that's a new debian package, linux-image-2.6.16-1-xen-vserver-686 :) 1146832704 M * eyck linux-image-2.6.16-1-xen-vserver-amd64-M$-Virtual-Server-READY 1146832765 M * Wonka lol 1146832782 M * Wonka it's still missing suspend2 1146833232 Q * Ben81 Quit: Leaving 1146833252 J * mkhl ~mkhl@200-153-181-247.dsl.telesp.net.br 1146833378 M * mnemoc :) 1146834137 Q * kilgur Quit: Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com 1146834337 J * Viper0482 ~Viper0482@p54976CBA.dip.t-dialin.net 1146834911 Q * Wenix_ Quit: leaving 1146834912 J * Wenix ~wenix@81.7.189.11 1146834943 Q * yarihm Quit: Leaving 1146834975 Q * balbir Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1146835023 J * yarihm ~yarihm@vpn-global-000-dhcp.ethz.ch 1146835382 Q * Viper0482 Quit: bin raus, 1146835407 J * Viper0482 ~Viper0482@p54976CBA.dip.t-dialin.net 1146837096 J * kilgur user@p50813EB1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1146837843 Q * mnemoc Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1146837873 Q * Dr4g__ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1146837926 J * ntrs__ ~ntrs@dsl-203-81-rt2-bras.wnvl.centurytel.net 1146838145 J * mnemoc ~amery@216.241.24.10 1146838352 Q * ntrs_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1146838618 M * hijacker_ daniel_hozac, thanks, and what does a kernel legacy version mean? 1146838645 M * hijacker_ where do i say i want legacy versioning when configuring the kernel? 1146840212 Q * kilgur Read error: Connection reset by peer 1146840272 M * daniel_hozac hijacker_: Linux VServer -> Show a Legacy Version ID 1146840400 M * hijacker_ daniel_hozac, thanks 1146840404 M * hijacker_ i got that now 1146840519 Q * chelli Quit: chelli 1146840842 J * ntrs_ ~ntrs@68-188-51-87.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com 1146840901 Q * ntrs__ Read error: Connection reset by peer 1146840968 J * ntrs__ ~ntrs@dsl-203-81-rt2-bras.wnvl.centurytel.net 1146841341 Q * ntrs_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1146842169 J * yarihm_ ~yarihm@vpn-global-dhcp1-12.ethz.ch 1146842218 Q * yarihm Read error: Operation timed out 1146842318 J * ntrs_ ~ntrs@68-188-51-87.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com 1146842443 J * s0undt3ch ~s0undt3ch@bl8-1-169.dsl.telepac.pt 1146842772 Q * ntrs__ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1146843237 Q * mkhl Quit: 1146843557 N * otaku42 otaku42_away 1146843879 Q * yarihm_ Read error: Connection reset by peer 1146844355 Q * shedi Quit: Leaving 1146844397 J * balbir ~balbir@59.144.62.224 1146844532 Q * s0undt3ch Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1146844808 J * s0undt3ch ~s0undt3ch@bl8-1-169.dsl.telepac.pt 1146845005 J * yarihm ~yarihm@vpn-global-dhcp1-37.ethz.ch 1146845622 Q * samuel_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1146846106 Q * sladen_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1146846265 J * sladen paul@starsky.19inch.net 1146846328 Q * pagano Quit: Leaving 1146846422 J * shedi ~siggi@inferno.lhi.is 1146847281 Q * lilalinux Remote host closed the connection 1146848110 Q * yarihm Quit: Leaving 1146848594 M * hillct Bertl_LT: ping 1146849633 M * s0undt3ch hello ppl 1146849649 M * s0undt3ch is there any how to on how to setup NIS with vservers 1146849667 M * s0undt3ch ... I've never setup nis before :) ... 1146850739 M * hillct I seem to be having serious problems with the swcheduler again 1146851090 Q * ray6 Server closed connection 1146851091 J * ray6 ~ray@vh5.gcsc2.ray.net 1146851108 M * ray6 hill: i guess BertL is doing his workshop on LT right now? 1146851418 Q * _are_ Quit: gnnnn 1146851674 Q * hijacker_ Quit: Leaving 1146852041 Q * s0undt3ch Quit: leaving 1146852350 J * samuel_ ~samuel@levinux.UQAR.UQUEBEC.CA 1146852391 A * samuel_ is away: (Auto-Away after 10 mins) [BX-MsgLog On] 1146852509 Q * sukria Server closed connection 1146852523 J * sukria ~sukria@www.sukria.net 1146852533 J * simon_ ~simon@212.76.255.43 1146852551 Q * simon_ Remote host closed the connection 1146852696 M * hillct Bertl_LT: ping 1146852705 M * hillct daniel_hozac: ping 1146852747 M * hillct what's the scale/measurement in the CPU line at the bottom of the /prox/virtual//sched file? 1146852787 J * s0undt3ch ~s0undt3ch@bl7-243-53.dsl.telepac.pt 1146853412 Q * _coocoon_ Quit: KVIrc 3.2.0 'Realia' 1146854014 Q * BobR_oO Server closed connection 1146854043 J * BobR_oO odie@212.16.62.52 1146854352 Q * Viper0482 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1146854411 J * Dr4g ~Dr4g@82-40-41-19.cable.ubr06.uddi.blueyonder.co.uk 1146854682 M * daniel_hozac hillct: ticks in user, system and on hold. 1146854693 M * daniel_hozac (for stable) 1146854857 M * s0undt3ch I'm setting up a NIS server in my main server, and for the gests(right now the template one) the NIS client 1146854887 M * s0undt3ch although I see ypserv running, when starting ypbind it doesn't find any NIS server 1146854891 J * Viper0482 ~Viper0482@p5497655E.dip.t-dialin.net 1146854892 M * s0undt3ch know why? 1146855088 M * hillct daniel_hozac: another behavior I'm seeing is shell freezes when running vhosts 1146855094 M * hillct seems to be load related 1146855122 M * hillct I guess you hit the nail on the head with regard to nice values for host processes 1146856907 J * dearaujo ~dearaujo@pixpat.austin.ibm.com 1146858914 P * dearaujo 1146858952 Q * Viper0482 Quit: bin raus, 1146859674 J * bonbons ~bonbons@83.222.39.134 1146861162 Q * sladen Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1146861410 J * sladen paul@starsky.19inch.net 1146862284 J * Milf ~Miranda@IP-213157005115.dialin.heagmedianet.de 1146862394 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1146863093 Q * Milf Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org 1146863567 M * hillct daniel_hozac: how do I go about adjusting the nice setting for context zero? ihave a feeling I missed something on this point 1146863877 M * hillct the problem I'm seeing though is all VMs display this same freezing behavior 1146863907 M * hillct a proper set of vsched settings don't seem to get the job done 1146864080 M * daniel_hozac are you sure it's vserver related? i.e. it doesn't happen on vanilla? 1146864156 M * daniel_hozac nice -n -4 /etc/init.d/sshd restart or similar should do it. 1146864307 M * hillct if I shut down all vservers it doesn't happen 1146864323 M * hillct Ispent the last week figuring it was vsched related 1146864336 M * hillct which it aparently isn't 1146864347 M * hillct I see the same behavior using the system scheduler 1146864361 M * hillct but again, only when a vserver is running 1146864918 M * daniel_hozac hmm, what version is that? is the guest doing anything? 1146865050 M * hillct the guest is running apache with mod_perl 1146865109 M * daniel_hozac but is it doing anything? 1146865122 M * hillct service webpages 1146865140 M * hillct connecting to a DB server 1146865163 M * daniel_hozac i mean at the time of the freeze. does it have processes actually running? 1146865172 M * hillct handling maybe 200,000 pageviews/dat and 80 DB requests er second 1146865180 M * hillct yes 1146865205 M * hillct and apache seems to continue to respond durring a freeze 1146865216 M * hillct my first inclination is it was load based 1146865235 M * hillct high traffic and it freezes, but that appears not to be the case 1146865292 M * hillct running an identically configured vserver that does not have any significant apache requests going through it results in the same freezing 1146865305 M * hillct I'm running kernel patches 2.01-pre2 1146865321 M * daniel_hozac 2.01-pre2? that's... ancient. 1146865339 M * hillct I know, I should update soon 1146865364 M * hillct how ancient is it? release-wise. It's only what 8 months old? 1146865380 J * mkhl ~mkhl@200-153-181-247.dsl.telesp.net.br 1146865407 M * hillct how many preview releases between pre2 and release of 2.01 ? 1146865416 A * hillct checks 1146865419 M * daniel_hozac well, pre is even before rc... 1146865424 M * hillct ah 1146865430 M * hillct yeah 1146865482 M * hillct well, I was thinking i need to update from FC4 to FC5 anyway, so that'd be a good time to update the kernel and vserver patches 1146865505 M * hillct when I went from FC2 to FC4, it was a major PIA 1146865520 M * hillct so I havn't been looking forward to kernel upgrades 1146865538 M * hillct done without benefit of a terminal server 1146865548 M * hillct I wanted to buy a terminal server first 1146865843 M * hillct daniel_hozac: upgrade is, I suppose, generic advice but I guess that's what I'm going to have to do in order to eliminate anything fixed in newer releases, as the source of the problem 1146865871 M * hillct I take it nobody else has reported issues similar to this freezing behavior... 1146865902 M * daniel_hozac well, there was a problem with guests getting too high priority. 1146865969 M * hillct was that priority reflected in the sched file content or was it invisible in that respect? 1146866052 M * hillct when upgrading, would you recommend sticking with the stable tree or going to 2.1? 1146866066 M * daniel_hozac depends on what features you want. 1146866099 M * hillct will check the docs, but at this point I'm inclined to go for stability 1146866099 M * daniel_hozac i think the priority was an invisible thing. 1146866108 M * hillct ah 1146866625 M * Hollow hey there 1146866628 M * Hollow back from LT 1146867055 M * Skram So- I have this server which each vps gets a dedicated Ip 1146867056 M * Skram *IP 1146867090 M * Skram how hard would it be to give each use a local IP.. that way some (like mysql) traffic doesnt have to go outside of the box, through the router, etc. 1146867112 M * daniel_hozac why would it go outside the box? 1146867115 M * Skram yeah 1146867121 M * Skram maybe im not thinking 1146867127 M * Skram (i am not a network guru) 1146867129 M * daniel_hozac if the addresses are assigned to the guest, it will all be local traffic. 1146867131 M * Skram oone sec 1146867151 M * daniel_hozac err, host. 1146867202 M * Skram nevermind 1146867203 M * Skram yeah 1146867221 M * Skram so i can get to another vps's ip, from a fellow vps (on the same host) with just one hop. 1146867227 M * Skram didnt know that ;) 1146867671 Q * plars Remote host closed the connection 1146871649 Q * Dr4g Ping timeout: 480 seconds