1146614448 Q * ntrs__ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1146614643 J * ntrs ~ntrs@68-188-51-87.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com 1146614752 Q * brc_ Quit: No windows for this server 1146615140 Q * ntrs Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1146615365 J * ntrs ~ntrs@68-188-51-87.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com 1146615415 Q * gerrit Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1146617397 Q * are|lunch Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1146618112 J * mkhl ~mkhl@200-148-41-59.dsl.telesp.net.br 1146618611 J * _are_ are@dslb-084-057-138-099.pools.arcor-ip.net 1146619906 Q * jayeola Quit: leaving 1146620470 J * gerrit ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net 1146621209 Q * harry Quit: fucking kernel updates!!! 1146621659 J * harry ~harry@d54C2508C.access.telenet.be 1146621940 Q * samuel_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1146623352 J * doener ~doener@i5387CFB5.versanet.de 1146623751 Q * doener_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1146624136 M * s0undt3ch how do I change my vserver root? 1146624155 M * daniel_hozac hmm? 1146624170 M * Skram what do you mean 1146624181 M * Skram like /vserver/originalname /vserver/newname? 1146624189 M * mugwump look at /etc/vservers/xxx/vdir, it should be a symlink 1146624209 M * s0undt3ch I mean vserver-Rootdir 1146624220 M * Skram oh like so its not like /vservers ? 1146624225 M * mugwump actually look, you will see it points to a path that has a symlink 1146624234 M * s0undt3ch I want to change that 1146624253 M * mugwump ls -l /etc/vservers/.defaults/vdirbase 1146624270 M * Skram ge's talking about 1146624271 M * Skram hercules masilverberg # ls -al / | grep vservers 1146624271 M * Skram drwxr-xr-x 22 root root 752 Apr 23 20:18 vservers 1146624284 M * s0undt3ch ls -lah /etc/vservers/.defaults/ 1146624287 M * Skram not the vserver directory, but change it so its not /vservers/name but /whatever/name 1146624292 M * s0undt3ch lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 20 Mai 3 03:06 vdirbase -> /warehouse/vservers/ 1146624326 M * Skram hrm 1146624328 M * s0undt3ch that is changed but vserver-info states -> vserver-Rootdir: /vservers 1146624352 M * daniel_hozac vserver-info is created at compile time. 1146624370 M * daniel_hozac it won't change, regardless of what you do. 1146624389 M * daniel_hozac (well, of course, you could edit the FEATURES.txt it reads, but that's cheating :)) 1146624400 M * s0undt3ch oh, so it really is using /warehouse/vservers/? 1146624441 M * daniel_hozac yes, if that's where the symlink is pointing to. 1146624484 M * s0undt3ch yep, so it seems ;) 1146625555 Q * shuri Remote host closed the connection 1146626095 J * lylix ~eric@dynamic-acs-24-154-53-234.zoominternet.net 1146626167 Q * mef_ Quit: using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12 1146626770 Q * MrX Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1146631938 J * Viper0482 ~Viper0482@p549767BA.dip.t-dialin.net 1146633500 J * samuel_ ~samuel@levinux.UQAR.UQUEBEC.CA 1146633509 A * samuel_ is away: (Auto-Away after 10 mins) [BX-MsgLog On] 1146635049 J * MrX ~urk@219.95.237.224 1146635359 N * MrX MrX- 1146637149 Q * lylix Read error: Connection reset by peer 1146637812 Q * _are_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1146638558 Q * MrX- Quit: urk IRC v0.-1.4 - http://urk.sf.net/ 1146638593 J * _coocoon_ ~coocoon@p54A077F7.dip.t-dialin.net 1146638602 M * _coocoon_ morning 1146639512 N * otaku42_away otaku42 1146639557 J * chelli ~thomas@PC1.ideolabs.TGZ-Ilmenau.de 1146640064 J * _are_ ~are@p54A09F9B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1146640186 J * chelli_ ~thomas@PC1.ideolabs.TGZ-Ilmenau.de 1146640208 Q * chelli Read error: Connection reset by peer 1146640657 Q * Viper0482 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1146641183 J * Viper0482 ~Viper0482@p549767BA.dip.t-dialin.net 1146642208 J * My_Immortal ~Sevgiden@85.99.201.148 1146642319 Q * My_Immortal Quit: 1146642692 Q * _are_ Quit: bbl 1146644816 J * MrX- ~urk@218.208.209.61 1146644828 N * MrX- MrX 1146644834 Q * MrX Quit: 1146644855 J * MrX ~urk@218.208.209.61 1146645055 Q * shedi Quit: Leaving 1146647656 Q * s0undt3ch Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1146648347 M * lilalinux greetings to the linuxtag folks 1146648608 M * [PUPPETS]Gonzo I see none 1146648638 M * [PUPPETS]Gonzo well, ok, I see some on the webcam, but non in the channel :) 1146649126 Q * morrigan Quit: leaving 1146649817 J * Johan ~finger@lounge.datux.nl 1146650542 J * s0undt3ch ~s0undt3ch@bl7-251-20.dsl.telepac.pt 1146650803 Q * cehteh Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1146652004 J * Hollow_ ~hollow@home.xnull.de 1146652008 Q * tokkee Remote host closed the connection 1146652025 J * tokkee tokkee@ssh.faui2k3.org 1146652040 Q * Hollow Read error: Connection reset by peer 1146652044 Q * h01ger Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1146652101 J * ben_ ~Lukas@88.134.54.56 1146652111 J * h01ger ~holger@socket.layer-acht.org 1146652126 M * ben_ good morning 1146652950 J * daniel_hozac|irssi ~daniel@c-2d1472d5.010-230-73746f22.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se 1146652950 Q * daniel_hozac Read error: Connection reset by peer 1146653025 N * daniel_hozac|irssi daniel_hozac 1146653743 J * davut ~davut@213.74.180.7 1146653744 M * davut hi 1146653749 M * daniel_hozac hello 1146653773 M * davut I pathced a vanilla kernel via the grsec+vserver patch I saw on the mailing list 1146653785 M * davut but my vservers are refusing to start 1146653794 M * davut I get an error message like this 1146653800 M * davut vcontext: vc_set_cflags(): Operation not permitted 1146653810 M * davut I am not good at grsec very much 1146653830 M * davut I get the patch from here 1146653832 M * davut http://harry.ulyssis.org/vserver/patch-2.6.16.11-vs2.0.2-rc18-grsec2.1.9.diff 1146653852 M * daniel_hozac i guess you'll have to wait for harry. 1146653860 M * davut hmmm 1146653863 M * davut he is here 1146654026 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1146654030 M * Bertl morning folks! 1146654076 M * Bertl davut: hmm, if you are 'not good at grsec' why do you patch it? 1146654082 Q * softi42 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1146654100 M * davut I wanna learn and be secure 1146654102 M * davut :P 1146654143 M * Bertl i.c. what security features (of grsec) are you missing in 'normal' kernels? 1146654162 M * davut non-executable memory 1146654173 M * davut address space randomization 1146654189 M * davut these two are very important 1146654335 M * Bertl i.c. do you use PIE? 1146654379 M * Hollow_ dietlibc doesn't work with pie :P 1146654612 M * davut what is pie 1146654624 Q * Aiken Quit: Leaving 1146654626 J * softi42 ~softi@p549D4E5B.dip.t-dialin.net 1146654958 M * davut Bertl: I read your irc log about grsecurity 1146654959 M * davut eheh 1146654978 J * _are_ ~are@p54A09F9B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1146655134 M * Bertl davut: thing is, I'm trying to figure what security features folks really use from grsec (and similar patches) 1146655176 M * davut Bertl: I am actually not a fan of grsec 1146655182 M * davut I like the concept of PAX 1146655182 M * Bertl davut: and so far the only things reported are features which work out of the box, like the beforementioned address space randomizations and stack/exec protection 1146655204 M * Bertl davut: that is why we are still planning to work more closely with PAX folks 1146655228 M * davut Bertl: is there any patch only for pax and vserver 1146655238 M * daniel_hozac Fedora already has those :) 1146655241 M * davut I dont need that rbac feauters 1146655253 M * davut mm I use gentoo 1146655378 M * daniel_hozac Hollow_: is anything which is compiled statically PI? 1146655457 M * davut Bertl: do u use pax 1146655481 M * Hollow_ daniel_hozac: statically what? 1146655543 M * daniel_hozac position independent. 1146655617 M * Hollow_ how do i know? the errors i get are all "undefined reference" for those functions which have syscalls in i386 (dunno if it happens on other archs) 1146655711 M * daniel_hozac if you compile something statically against glibc with PIE, does it work? 1146655755 M * Bertl davut: no, not yet ... 1146655762 M * daniel_hozac as i understand PIE, it makes executables more like shared libraries, which for statically linked executables... seems odd. 1146655785 M * davut I got stuck I can not run my vservers 1146655957 M * davut Bertl: I am now trying to remove every grsec thing from kernel 1146656027 M * Bertl hmm, why not use one of the mainline patches for now? 1146656039 M * Bertl (and talk to harry about the basic grsec setup) 1146656096 M * davut Bertl: what do u mean with mainline patch 1146656106 M * daniel_hozac Hollow_: does gcc -static -fPIE -pie test.c (where test.c just printf's argc's address) work on your hardened system? (i mean running it, it compiles fine) 1146656129 M * Hollow_ sec 1146656153 M * daniel_hozac here, it complains about /usr/lib/libc.so.1 not being a valid ELF interpreter... 1146656232 M * Hollow_ zeus ~ # gcc -static -fPIE -pie test.c 1146656232 M * Hollow_ gcc: -pie and -static|pg|p|profile are incompatible 1146656247 M * daniel_hozac your gcc is too clever :) 1146656259 M * Hollow_ heh 1146656269 M * daniel_hozac but anyway, that confirms that dietlibc + pie will never work :) 1146656276 M * Hollow_ indeed 1146656283 N * Hollow_ Hollow 1146656324 M * Bertl which makes me wonder what a PIE executable is and what parts of that executeable are really PIC :) 1146656337 M * daniel_hozac everything should be PIC. 1146656341 M * daniel_hozac otherwise it's not fully PIE. 1146656376 M * Bertl davut: http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/patch-2.6.16.11-vs2.0.2-rc18.diff (or the 2.1.1 patch there) 1146656405 M * daniel_hozac oh, and i found out how to see if something's PIE. 1146656409 M * daniel_hozac file returns shared object. 1146656413 M * davut Bertl: I am already using vserver without pax 1146656428 M * davut I have 6 vservers on a box 1146656430 M * daniel_hozac (on the executable) 1146656526 M * Bertl davut: and they do not start now? 1146656765 M * ray6 oh, Bertl up early? :) morning! When are you leaving for linuxtag? 1146656777 M * Bertl tomorrow morning 1146656827 M * davut yep 1146656840 M * ray6 a, have a good trip then... I won't make it, so enjoy a workshop without someone telling how well vserver runs under xen :) 1146656860 M * Bertl well, I will probably mention it for you :) 1146656916 M * ray6 bertl: oh that's nice. And don't forget to mention how much easier than openvz %-> 1146656934 J * LT_BoothStaff ~guest@217.19.180.112 1146656945 M * Bertl welcome LT_BoothStaff! 1146656960 M * LT_BoothStaff Hello, it's Milf here live from LinuxTag in Weisbaden 1146656968 M * [PUPPETS]Gonzo hi milf :) 1146656976 M * Bertl http://cam.linux-vserver.org/ 1146656978 M * ray6 bertl: I'll possibly attend the krenn presentation of HA+Virtuozzo here in Munich next week. But first I'm looking forward from your report from Linuxtag :) 1146656987 M * LT_BoothStaff Those two small guzs zou see on the webcam happen to be Kiril and Kir 1146656998 M * Bertl I thought so ... 1146657006 M * Wonka LT_BoothStaff: hrhr, wrong kezboard lazout? 1146657040 M * LT_BoothStaff zes, wrong kezboard lazout Ö= 1146657084 M * LT_BoothStaff If you want to see specifics of the booth, just holler or let Gonzo call DerJohn 1146657097 M * ray6 no robot camera? :) 1146657136 M * [PUPPETS]Gonzo I'll have to leave for lab in a few minutes 1146657142 M * LT_BoothStaff No, camera movement happens completely by getting on a chair and moving it by hand 1146657156 M * Wonka LT_BoothStaff: how... manual! 1146657180 M * LT_BoothStaff Well blame Gonzo and DerJohn for not having anything better :) 1146657191 M * LT_BoothStaff Send us your roboCam :) 1146657207 M * [PUPPETS]Gonzo I am sorry for having such lousy equipment ;) 1146657269 M * LT_BoothStaff Hmm, we must make some photos and upload them. 1146657294 M * [PUPPETS]Gonzo make it so ;-) 1146657308 M * [PUPPETS]Gonzo ok, Milf, gotta go. Have fun and I am looking in seeing you on friday! 1146657320 M * [PUPPETS]Gonzo my master and teacher :) 1146657611 M * Bertl it's interesting to see that there is _so much_ interest from the OpenVZ folks :) 1146657832 M * s0undt3ch interest in vserver? 1146657868 M * Bertl well, it's not the first time :=) 1146657878 M * ray6 Bertl: or in the booth? :) "Is their's bigger than ours?" :) 1146657896 M * nebuchadnezzar hello folks 1146657904 M * Bertl ray6: yeah, maybe :) 1146657911 M * Bertl welcome nebuchadnezzar! 1146658262 M * Bertl okay, off for now .. back later 1146658292 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1146658349 J * VooDooMaster icechat5@topas.informatik.uni-ulm.de 1146658492 Q * _are_ Quit: bbl 1146658919 M * cemil hmm - damn 1146658928 M * cemil i have a problem while upgrading to dapper-drake 1146658931 M * cemil in a vserver 1146658935 M * cemil Setting up initscripts (2.86.ds1-6ubuntu26) ... 1146658935 M * cemil mount: permission denied 1146658938 M * cemil subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 32 1146658938 M * cemil Errors were encountered while processing: 1146658938 M * cemil initscripts 1146658940 M * cemil any ideas here? 1146659250 M * davut cemil: selam 1146659320 J * shedi ~siggi@tolvudeild-201.lhi.is 1146659397 M * _coocoon_ cemil: does this happen during upgrade process or after 1146659428 J * BenBen ~benny@defiant.wavecon.de 1146659431 M * BenBen ho 1146659434 M * cemil cohan: during 1146659523 M * cemil i will try --force-yes -f now 1146659535 M * _coocoon_ cemil: why not creating building a new vserver with dapper? 1146659565 M * cemil i have installed a vserver with breezy for otrs - no i see: only otrs 2 can handle gpg 1146659571 M * cemil so i decided to upgrade to dapper 1146659583 M * cemil and now i am here :) 1146659613 M * cemil but you could be right - maybe its more easy installing a new server from scratch 1146659639 M * LT_BoothStaff Ok, here's what Kiril and Kir did at our booth: 'I can break out of that systm' but he couldn't 1146659687 M * doener heh 1146659690 M * LT_BoothStaff And did you all see the poster I held up a quarter hour ago? 1146659702 M * doener no :( 1146659827 M * cemil "E: No such script: /usr/lib/debootstrap/scripts/dapper" 1146659832 M * cemil *doh* :) 1146659853 M * _coocoon_ cemil: which os do u have installed on the host 1146659863 M * cemil breezy 1146659889 M * _coocoon_ cemil: hm so maybe u must update deboostrap 1146659913 M * cemil ii debootstrap 0.3.1.6ubuntu1 Bootstrap a basic Debian system 1146659923 M * cemil do you have a dapper installed in a vserver somewhere? 1146659932 M * cemil if yes: can i have your /usr/lib/debootstrap/scripts/dapper? 1146659951 M * _coocoon_ cemil: how do u create the vserver 1146659968 M * cemil sudo vserver otrs02 build -m debootstrap --hostname otrs02.nbg.wavecon.de --netdev eth0 --interface 193.192.40.12/24 --context 9 -- -d dapper -m http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu -- --exclude=udev 1146660001 M * _coocoon_ cemil: so u use debootstrap 1146660006 M * _coocoon_ ;-) 1146660025 M * cemil no i try the stupid way :) cp breezy dapper 1146660030 M * cemil and *hope* :) 1146660184 M * cemil http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6048976794 1146660201 M * _coocoon_ cemil: dunno using debian sarge, but if dapper isn't there in ur /usr/lib/debootstrap/scripts an update will help ftp://ftp.belnet.be/linux/ubuntu/ubuntu/pool/main/d/debootstrap/ 1146660236 M * cemil hmm - cool 1146660240 M * cemil cp breezy dapper works 1146660370 M * cemil hmm - now it would be interesting why it doesnt work with upgrade 1146661712 Q * davut Quit: davut 1146662043 M * ben_ Which is recommendable hardware raid controller on vserver system? 1146662642 M * harry ben_: nothing specific afaik 1146662649 M * harry just use software raid ;)) 1146662660 M * harry just use whatever the default kernel supports 1146662830 J * _lisa ~lisa@d-c224-88.ext.dialin.uqconnect.net 1146662843 P * _lisa 1146662903 M * LT_BoothStaff http://lt.deswahnsinns.de/pics/lt_2006050314160601.jpg 1146662923 M * doener :D 1146662961 M * LT_BoothStaff they sell 'em for 2 Euros here 1146663598 N * Bertl_oO Bertl 1146663603 M * Bertl back now ... 1146663636 M * Bertl lol @ poster 1146663675 M * doener wb Bertl 1146664143 M * Bertl lol @ kir breaking out .) 1146664185 Q * cryo Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1146664301 Q * chelli_ Quit: Verlassend 1146665049 J * cryo ~say@psoft.user.matrix.farlep.net 1146665059 M * Bertl wb cryo! 1146665305 J * chelli ~thomas@PC1.ideolabs.TGZ-Ilmenau.de 1146665312 M * Bertl welcome chelli! 1146665407 M * chelli hi Bertl 1146665526 J * Wenix_ ~wenix@81.7.189.11 1146665528 Q * Wenix_ Quit: 1146665536 M * Bertl that was quick :) 1146666075 M * insomniac hi to everyone 1146666079 M * insomniac hi Bertl :) 1146666096 M * Bertl hey insomniac! 1146666108 J * Milf ~Miranda@217.19.180.126 1146666116 M * Bertl welcome Milf! 1146666122 M * Milf Hi 1146666174 M * Milf I hear you're coming tomorrow bertl? 1146666186 J * chelli_ ~thomas@PC1.ideolabs.TGZ-Ilmenau.de 1146666187 Q * chelli Read error: Connection reset by peer 1146666236 M * Bertl Milf: yep 1146666299 M * Milf Where are you staying? 1146666336 M * Bertl in the Achat Hotel 1146666657 M * Bertl okay, off for dinner, back shortly 1146666664 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1146667142 N * chelli_ chelli 1146667286 M * harry anyone going to sane ? (www.sane.nl) 1146667696 M * ben_ where is delft :D 1146667761 M * SiD3WiNDR sane the scanner thingy! 1146667810 M * SiD3WiNDR looks interesting but.. I won't be sponsored to go 1146667851 M * harry ben_: .nl 1146668045 Q * orzel Remote host closed the connection 1146668144 J * orzel ~orzel@berlioz.ethernet.freehackers.org 1146668285 Q * teukka Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1146668305 Q * chelli Quit: chelli 1146668712 N * Bertl_oO Bertl 1146668718 M * Bertl back now (for a short time) 1146668981 T * Bertl http://linux-vserver.org/ | latest stable 2.01, 1.2.10, 1.2.11-rc1, devel 2.1.0, exp 2.{0.2,1.1}-rc19 | util-vserver-0.30.210 | libvserver-1.0.2 & vserver-utils-1.0.3 | He who asks a question is a fool for a minute; he who doesn't ask is a fool for a lifetime -- share the gained knowledge on the wiki, and we'll forget about the minute ;) 1146668986 M * Bertl *rc19 1146669668 Q * ben_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1146669672 M * Bertl okay, off again ... back later 1146669680 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1146669853 A * harry gonna diff patches 1146670208 M * harry is there a diff between rc18 and rc19 ? 1146670416 M * doener harry: might be only in one branch, -rc numbers are updated in both branches at the same time, even if only one of them actually changed 1146671214 Q * LT_BoothStaff Remote host closed the connection 1146671382 M * harry doener: possibly 1146671392 M * harry i still want to know what the difference is :) 1146671725 Q * s0undt3ch Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1146672092 Q * _coocoon_ Quit: KVIrc 3.2.0 'Realia' 1146672102 J * s0undt3ch ~s0undt3ch@bl8-0-24.dsl.telepac.pt 1146672639 J * bonbons ~bonbons@83.222.39.134 1146672762 Q * Milf Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org 1146673061 N * _jake- jake- 1146675030 Q * shedi Quit: Leaving 1146675364 N * otaku42 otaku42_away 1146675415 M * daniel_hozac harry: got the deltas yet? 1146675664 M * daniel_hozac nevermind, got them. 1146675931 J * s0undt3c1 ~s0undt3ch@bl8-1-86.dsl.telepac.pt 1146675948 Q * s0undt3ch Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1146676380 Q * lilalinux Read error: Connection reset by peer 1146676802 Q * gerrit Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1146677125 J * lilalinux ~plasma@dslb-084-058-210-242.pools.arcor-ip.net 1146678190 J * trash trash@databerlin.org 1146678691 M * harry daniel_hozac: where did you get the delta's? 1146678904 M * daniel_hozac diff -Nurp :) 1146679009 M * harry can you put it online somewhere? 1146679022 M * harry i didn't feel like doing another copy etc... ;) 1146679035 M * daniel_hozac http://daniel.hozac.com/vserver/delta-2.0.2-rc18-rc19.diff http://daniel.hozac.com/vserver/delta-2.1.1-rc18-rc19.diff 1146679041 M * harry tnx 1146679059 M * daniel_hozac i excluded the Makefile hunks. 1146679108 M * harry tnx : 1146679109 M * harry :) 1146679122 M * harry seems not that important to update :0 1146679123 M * harry ;) 1146679134 M * harry our main vserver machine is up anyway ;) 1146679148 M * harry kernel version string is getting long tough... 1146679195 M * daniel_hozac well, you probably want the kernel/exit.c hunks at least. 1146679240 M * harry hmm... that's the one i was doubting about ;) 1146679337 M * daniel_hozac the rest is just cleanups. 1146679377 M * daniel_hozac (for 2.0.2) 1146679428 M * harry Linux gandalf 2.6.16.13-vs2.0.2-rc18-grsec2.1.9-harry #5 SMP Wed May 3 15:39:00 CEST 2006 i686 GNU/Linux 1146679432 M * harry kinda long... :) 1146679448 M * harry btw... why should i want the exit patch? 1146679492 M * harry it only removes a bug_on 1146679493 M * daniel_hozac the BUG_ON will create a recursive fault and the kernel warns you that you should reboot to fix it ;) 1146679495 M * harry and ads a print 1146679500 M * harry true 1146679506 M * harry but as long as that never happens 1146679510 M * harry i don't really care :) 1146679514 M * harry and it has never happened 1146679519 M * daniel_hozac well... it's not hard to trigger at a ll. 1146679532 M * daniel_hozac just gdb /bin/ls; r in an initless guest. 1146679532 M * harry ==> not enough reason to fix :) 1146679546 M * harry true, true 1146679559 M * harry but... i'm not gonna take down production servesr for that 1146679575 M * harry and the cleanups are irrelevant when compiled 1146679578 M * harry so.... no reason ;) 1146679598 J * gerrit ~gerrit@bi01p1.co.us.ibm.com 1146679613 M * harry might check for my grsec patch... which will make an insignificant performance gain :) 1146680082 M * harry btw, daniel_hozac : how many initless guests do you have? 1146680099 M * daniel_hozac i use nothing but initless guests. 1146680111 M * daniel_hozac or well, i have one test guest that uses an init. 1146680131 M * harry why would you want an initless guest? 1146680173 M * daniel_hozac why would i want a guest with init? :) 1146680204 M * harry the same reason you allways have an init 1146680209 M * daniel_hozac initless means i get to see the output as it's starting. 1146680209 M * harry to manage the rest 1146680272 M * harry ? 1146681527 Q * Viper0482 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1146682072 J * Viper0482 ~Viper0482@p549773A5.dip.t-dialin.net 1146682501 J * shedi ~siggi@inferno.lhi.is 1146682576 J * plars ~plars@pixpat.austin.ibm.com 1146683222 Q * Viper0482 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1146683273 J * ben_ ~Lukas@88.134.54.56 1146683350 J * _are_ are@dslb-084-057-138-099.pools.arcor-ip.net 1146683734 J * Viper0482 ~Viper0482@p549773A5.dip.t-dialin.net 1146683764 J * shed| ~siggi@inferno.lhi.is 1146683765 Q * shed| Quit: 1146684263 M * daniel_hozac Bertl_oO: 2.1.1-rc19 "needs" http://daniel.hozac.com/vserver/delta-plm-fix03.diff 1146684670 Q * Viper0482 Remote host closed the connection 1146684924 J * Viper0482 ~Viper0482@p549773A5.dip.t-dialin.net 1146684950 J * Milf ~Miranda@IP-213157005060.dialin.heagmedianet.de 1146684970 M * Milf Hiho, can anyone point me to today's channel log? 1146685219 M * daniel_hozac http://irc.13thfloor.at/LOG/2006-05/LOG_2006-05-03.txt 1146685289 M * Milf Thanks 1146685693 J * comfrey ~comfrey@h-64-105-215-74.sttnwaho.covad.net 1146685929 M * derjohn hey Milf ! 1146685961 M * [PUPPETS]Gonzo hey ho 1146686414 M * Milf Moin or good evening DerJohn 1146686772 Q * redtux Read error: Connection reset by peer 1146687036 J * redtux ~redtux@pc199.pub.univie.ac.at 1146687521 M * shedi nmap within the guest server? 1146687628 Q * phedny Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1146688034 J * phedny ~mark@volcano.p-bierman.nl 1146688113 M * daniel_hozac shedi: shouldn't be a problem. 1146688158 M * shedi I get the following complaint "Failed to lookup device subnet/netmask: vlan20: no IPv4 address assigned" 1146688176 M * shedi maybe it's vlan related? 1146688200 Q * bonbons Remote host closed the connection 1146688271 M * shedi I am using CAP_NET_RAW, otherwise nmap usage is not permitted 1146688320 M * [PUPPETS]Gonzo which commandline did you try? 1146688344 M * shedi nmap -e vlan20 xxx.yyy.xxx.yyy 1146688355 M * shedi and without -e flag 1146688418 M * daniel_hozac i guess that's not a very recent kernel? does the guest have an IP address on vlan20? tried setting name in .../interfaces/X? 1146688425 M * [PUPPETS]Gonzo -e? 1146688438 M * [PUPPETS]Gonzo ah, interface... 1146688489 M * shedi I'm using kernel version 2.6.14.3-vs2.0.1 1146688498 M * shedi I'll try the name 1146688754 M * shedi no it didn't do the trick 1146688771 M * shedi I also tried to use novlandev 1146689288 N * Bertl_oO Bertl 1146689304 M * Bertl evening folks! (short visit before I'm off to bed) 1146689320 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: please define "needs"? 1146689529 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: to get rid of those sparse warnings ;) 1146689609 M * Bertl ah, okay, good :) 1146689801 M * ray6 oh, evening bertl, leaving early tomorrow? 1146689809 M * Bertl yep, indeed 1146690363 M * Bertl okay, off to bed now .. back tomorrow from LT 1146690375 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1146690571 Q * Milf Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org 1146690838 J * cehteh ~ct@dslb-084-058-210-242.pools.arcor-ip.net 1146691276 J * Aiken ~james@tooax6-188.dialup.optusnet.com.au 1146691360 Q * Viper0482 Quit: bin raus, 1146691586 N * ben_ sixpack 1146691601 N * sixpack ben_ 1146692340 Q * cehteh Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1146693276 Q * ben_ Quit: 1146694871 P * mef 1146697819 J * brc_ bruce@20151219039.user.veloxzone.com.br 1146697824 M * brc_ Bertl? 1146698064 M * [PUPPETS]Gonzo went to bed 2 hours ago 1146698290 M * brc_ ok 1146698361 M * [PUPPETS]Gonzo and as far as I know he will leave tomorrow morning and go to Linuxtag in Wiesbaden (germany) 1146698370 M * [PUPPETS]Gonzo maybe he will look into IRC from there 1146698997 M * Skram i wish i could go! 1146699722 J * are|lunch are@dslb-084-057-138-026.pools.arcor-ip.net 1146700142 Q * _are_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1146700325 M * brc_ at least i have time to finish the scripts i owe him :)