1146528003 M * Bertl yes so 'test' to get eth0:test 1146528029 Q * ntrs_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1146528045 M * _coocoon_ bertl: thanx i am so sorry i ve lost a lot of my commands a few months ago, so i do not know exactly to use the commands 1146528048 M * daniel_hozac well, dev can be in interfaces/ to set a default. 1146528059 M * doener ah right 1146528071 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: interesting, didn't know that? 1146528082 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: does that work for having novlandev there too? 1146528091 J * ntrs ~ntrs@dsl-203-81-rt2-bras.wnvl.centurytel.net 1146528097 M * daniel_hozac i don't think so. 1146528098 M * Bertl (in case 'dev' is bond0.10 for example) 1146528131 M * Bertl if not, then having a vlan dev in devices will probably cause a bug? 1146528160 M * daniel_hozac well, you'd just have to specify novlandev in all of the subdirectories. 1146528405 M * _coocoon_ ok i have it thanx a lot 1146528416 M * Bertl you're welcome! 1146528967 J * ntrs_ ~ntrs@68-188-51-87.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com 1146529164 Q * ntrs Read error: Connection reset by peer 1146529226 Q * ntrs_ Read error: Connection reset by peer 1146529239 J * ntrs ~ntrs@68-188-51-87.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com 1146530434 M * ray6 reee Bertl 1146530479 M * Bertl hey ray6! 1146530532 M * Bertl daniel_hozac, doener: http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/delta-dent-feat02.diff 1146530581 M * ray6 Bertl: I just saw that Krenn will be showing their HA-stuff also here in munich on may 11th, together with someone from SWSoft, possibly I'll have a look there... of course still interested in what you'll report from Linuxtag :) 1146530641 M * Bertl I guess they will mostly show the non-zero-downtime-migration 1146530652 M * ray6 almost-none I hope? :) 1146530662 M * Bertl of course :) 1146530807 M * ray6 That's something only closedvz can do, isn't it? 1146530824 M * Bertl nah, they hacked it into OVZ recently 1146530842 M * ray6 oh, IC. too bad OVZ still is not working in my xen environment :) 1146530850 M * Bertl why so? 1146530869 M * Bertl I thought it was easy to patch once you found the right patch? 1146530874 M * ray6 I managed to compile a kernel but the xen network interface doesn't work there 1146530900 M * ray6 servers without network are a bit boring, even if I can run 1000s of them on a single host :) 1146530953 M * Bertl ah, running init a 1000 times can be quite fun, I guess 1146530995 M * ray6 vz runs an init process per guest instead of virtualizing pid 1? 1146531024 M * Bertl of course, as it is virtualization 1146531065 M * mugwump hey Bertl how well does the network virtualisation stuff work in 2.1.0 ? 1146531078 M * mugwump is the iptables virtualisation working? 1146531091 M * Bertl mugwump: no, we have something called lo atm 1146531119 M * Bertl mugwump: it gives you the illusion of having your own interfaces, but blocks any manipulations 1146531142 M * Bertl mugwump: nevertheless iptables could be done with a helper on the host 1146531164 M * doener i'm off to bed, good night folks! 1146531176 M * Bertl night doener! 1146531207 M * _coocoon_ night 1146531233 M * mugwump Sadly I can't really do a new development for that. No worries, thanks for the quick response 1146531269 M * Bertl mugwump: well, ngnet will cover the non-light-weight part sooner or later 1146531289 M * Bertl (where you prefer virtualization over performance) 1146531296 M * mugwump ah, I thought ngnet was merged in 2.1.x 1146531307 M * Bertl no, not there yet 1146531338 A * mugwump checks ngnet patches for cobwebs 1146531341 M * Bertl it was planned, but we discovered a lot of things we could improve in the lightweight version, so we focused work there 1146531977 M * _coocoon_ good night to all thanx a lot 1146531980 Q * _coocoon_ Quit: KVIrc 3.2.0 'Realia' 1146531990 M * Bertl he's too fast for me :) 1146532225 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/delta-reaper-fix02.diff (alternative to fix01) 1146532238 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: hunk 3, fs/dcache.c looks odd. 1146532282 M * daniel_hozac (for dentry limits) 1146532297 M * Bertl why? 1146532321 M * Bertl ah, got it 1146532348 M * Bertl seems like a mixup 1146532375 J * Dr4g ~Dr4g@82-40-40-135.cable.ubr06.uddi.blueyonder.co.uk 1146532376 M * daniel_hozac reaper looks fine. 1146532384 M * Bertl welcome Dr4g! 1146532405 M * Dr4g Ty# 1146532603 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: regarding dent, the one unresolved part is the entry vcontext (or whatever) brings into the guest, I could fix that by recording the xid in the dentry, but I'd rather avoid that, it causes (sometimes) an off by one (-1) exit code 1146532851 M * daniel_hozac wouldn't that happen for each enter too? 1146532870 M * Bertl probably, not sure why it just happens in certain cases 1146532939 M * daniel_hozac and would recording the xid in dentries even work? aren't they shared across guests and the host? 1146532968 M * Bertl it would work to some extend, they are not shared because of the private namespaces 1146532968 M * daniel_hozac or would you just reset it to 0 and unaccount it when another context wants it? 1146532983 M * daniel_hozac oh, ok. 1146532994 M * Bertl and it doesn't really matter if they are tagged with _some_ xid 1146533011 M * Bertl they would only be released in the same context, if at all 1146533038 M * Bertl but I think the purpose (the limit) is perfectly handled this way (as it is now) 1146533073 M * daniel_hozac it looks like it. 1146533315 M * daniel_hozac delta-iosched-{feat,fix}01, isn't << 16 the same thing? 1146533341 M * Bertl hmm, yeah, we could do that too 1146533360 M * Bertl you mean (1 << 16) 1146533407 M * Bertl hmm, D'oh, that one is wrong :) 1146533469 M * Bertl okay, fixed that one in place 1146533609 M * daniel_hozac hehe. 1146533674 J * kir_home ~kir@ffm-nat.sw-soft.de 1146533683 M * Bertl wb kir_home! 1146534164 Q * kir_home Quit: Ухожу я от вас 1146534214 Q * shedi Read error: Connection reset by peer 1146534358 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: btw, what sort of testing does lo need? the nc tests? 1146534386 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: all kind, of course the nc test suite but also real world tests with services 1146534424 M * Bertl I decided to do the nid = 1 for the migrate to xid=1 1146534463 M * Bertl I tested ping/udp and tcp single, outside and crosstalk 1146534491 M * Bertl what I didn't test so far is host connections 1146534523 M * Bertl i.e. host -> guest and more important guest -> host 1146534592 M * daniel_hozac host's loopback or host's regular? 1146534614 M * Bertl actually none of them, what is supposed to work is 1146534640 M * Bertl - host somewhat isolated on lo, but reachable from guest 1146534654 M * Bertl (maybe we want to change that, but it would be simple) 1146534668 M * daniel_hozac hmm? so guests can connect to the host's lo? 1146534673 M * Bertl no 1146534686 M * Bertl hmm, well, maybe 1146534708 M * daniel_hozac UDP host->guest doesn't seem to work. 1146534717 M * daniel_hozac host can send to the guest, but the guest can't reply. 1146534724 M * Bertl on public or lo? 1146534747 M * daniel_hozac no source address specified, to public. 1146534756 M * Bertl okay 1146534967 M * Bertl we have to allow any bindings to xid=0 sockets to make that work 1146534993 M * Bertl (binding as in sending packets to) 1146535159 M * daniel_hozac with TCP, connecting from the host to 127.0.0.1: makes connect() wait seemingly forever. 1146535166 M * daniel_hozac (2 minutes is the most i've waited for it) 1146535172 J * shedi ~siggi@inferno.lhi.is 1146535242 M * daniel_hozac any other random port gives ECONNREFUSED directly. 1146535335 M * daniel_hozac connecting to the guest's public works fine. 1146535411 M * Bertl can you try out some minor changes easily? 1146535457 M * daniel_hozac sure. 1146535476 M * Bertl __sk_match_nid() in vs_netiso.h 1146535479 M * daniel_hozac same happens in guest->host's 127.0.0.1. 1146535488 M * Bertl I suspect the return __nx_check(nid, sknid, NX_ADMIN|NX_WATCH|NX_IDENT); 1146535511 M * Bertl to be wrong, it should probably not contain the NX_ADMIN (and maybe not the WATCH either) 1146535540 J * mark ~mark@cpe-70-116-9-213.austin.res.rr.com 1146535545 M * mark Hi all 1146535548 M * mark Help/ 1146535555 M * mark hercules / # /etc/init.d/vservers start 1146535555 M * mark /etc/conf.d/rc: line 200: svcdir: readonly variable 1146535559 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: but it would be good to run the nc_tests inside and on the host (and compare the results) 1146535561 M * daniel_hozac so just remove NX_ADMIN? 1146535568 M * mark im sorry i really need help however 1146535578 M * Bertl welcome mark! np! 1146535580 M * mark hey 1146535587 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: yep 1146535609 M * Bertl mark: looks like your rc script complains about something 1146535613 M * mark hercules / # vserver sentien-support start 1146535613 M * mark /proc/uptime can not be accessed. Usually, this is caused by 1146535613 M * mark procfs-security. Please read the FAQ for more details 1146535629 M * Bertl new installation? 1146535649 M * mark no 1146535651 M * mark it worked before 1146535656 M * Bertl before what? 1146535662 M * mark server got corrupt and rebooted 1146535687 M * Bertl okay, did you run the vproc-unhide script since? 1146535702 M * mark i dont think so 1146535705 M * mark where is it 1146535721 M * Bertl /etc/rc.d/init.d/vprocunhide 1146535726 M * Bertl (at least here) 1146535728 M * daniel_hozac not in Gentoo :) 1146535735 M * mark yeah not in gentoo 1146535735 M * daniel_hozac or Debian. 1146535748 M * Bertl well, locate is your friend 1146535754 M * Bertl and if not, then find :) 1146535765 M * mark /usr/lib/util-vserver/defaults/vprocunhide-files 1146535765 M * mark /usr/lib/util-vserver/vprocunhide 1146535784 M * Bertl okay, give it a spin, and check again 1146535804 M * Bertl (should be automatically executed on system startup, but who knows) 1146535813 M * mark ok 1146535815 M * mark it worked 1146535818 M * mark but the init doesnt 1146535829 M * Bertl init means? 1146535847 M * mark like 1146535853 M * mark /etc/init.d/vservers doenst work 1146535859 M * daniel_hozac how so? 1146535867 M * mark one sec 1146535884 M * Bertl mark: is it linked from one of the runlevels? 1146535955 M * mark hercules vservers # /etc/init.d/vservers start 1146535955 M * mark /etc/conf.d/rc: line 200: svcdir: readonly variable 1146535983 M * Bertl ah, that's on the host, yes? 1146536032 M * mark yes yes sir 1146536056 M * Bertl where is that /etc/init.d/vservers from? 1146536065 M * mark uhmm 1146536073 M * daniel_hozac Gentoo, i guess. 1146536078 M * mark yeah 1146536088 M * mark #!/sbin/runscript 1146536089 M * mark # Copyright 1999-2005 Gentoo Foundation 1146536089 M * mark # Distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License v2 1146536093 M * Bertl aha, hmm, well it's not part of util-vserver itself 1146536094 M * daniel_hozac do any of your initscripts work? 1146536101 M * mark yes 1146536115 M * mark hercules / # /etc/init.d/sshd restart * Stopping sshd ... [ ok ] * Starting sshd ... [ ok ] 1146536145 M * Bertl could you upload the /etc/init.d/vservers to paste.linux-vserver.org please ? 1146536158 M * daniel_hozac http://dev.croup.de/proj/gentoo-vps/browser/util-vserver/init.d/vservers 1146536165 M * Bertl ah, okay 1146536171 M * mark daniel_hozac: you did it? 1146536173 M * mark thanks 1146536180 M * s0undt3ch daniel_hozac: another gentoo user ;) 1146536185 M * daniel_hozac i'm not a Gentoo user. 1146536199 M * s0undt3ch oh 1146536200 M * daniel_hozac i just like keeping track of what Hollow and phreak`` do :) 1146536237 M * mark :) 1146536265 M * Bertl hmm, I don't see that this uses/calls /etc/conf.d/rc ? 1146536279 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: i guess /sbin/runscript does that. 1146536310 M * Bertl could be, so lets check what's in line 200 of /etc/conf.d/rc 1146536342 M * mark svcdir="/var/lib/init.d" 1146536359 M * Bertl hmm, and why is that read-only? 1146536360 M * mark drwxr-xr-x 15 root root 480 May 1 21:17 init.d 1146536367 M * mark no idea 1146536385 M * Bertl just for the fun of doing it, try to comment it out with a # 1146536416 M * Bertl but it looks like a gentoo specific issue to me 1146536431 M * Bertl (so probably Hollow or phreak`` know more) 1146536438 M * mark well i had already started the vservers manually 1146536438 M * daniel_hozac yeah, but it doesn't even look like a problem caused by the Gentoo package. 1146536442 M * mark hercules / # /etc/init.d/vservers status * status: started 1146536443 M * mark now 1146536446 M * mark so i guess it works 1146536451 M * mark i dont want to restart shut 1146536936 J * doener_ ~doener@i5387CCB7.versanet.de 1146537136 J * chirp ~chirp@202-169-194-76.megapass.world-net.co.nz 1146537146 M * Bertl welcome chirp! 1146537212 M * mark :) 1146537214 M * chirp hi all 1146537336 Q * doener Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1146537452 Q * chirp Quit: Leaving 1146537520 M * Bertl okay, I'll have a small breakfast and then I'm off to bed ... 1146537739 M * mark :( 1146537865 M * Hollow daniel_hozac: upgrade will help 1146537918 J * Aiken__ ~james@tooax6-138.dialup.optusnet.com.au 1146537922 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: nah, I suspect removing the NX_ADMIN will block all host/guest connections 1146537945 M * Bertl but I guess I have to look into that a little deeper tomorrow 1146538233 Q * Aiken_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1146538521 Q * mark Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1146538871 J * Skram ~mark@admins.sentiensystems.net 1146539792 M * Bertl okay, off to bed now .. have a nice one everyone! cya tomorrow! 1146539828 M * daniel_hozac that sounds like a good idea... good night! 1146539838 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1146539899 M * Skram peace 1146539909 M * Skram thanks for the help earlier.. both of you, Bertl_zZ and daniel_hozac 1146541460 M * s0undt3ch can't seem to start screen under a guest??? Know why? 1146541492 M * Skram s0undt3ch: you cant do it from using "vserver name enter"' 1146541506 M * Skram if you ssh into the guest you will be able to run screen however. 1146541519 M * s0undt3ch oh, bummer 1146541521 M * s0undt3ch thanks 1146541578 M * Skram sure thang 1146541610 M * daniel_hozac actually, recent distro supplied utils should support screen from vserver ... enter. 1146541629 M * Skram o ok 1146541717 M * s0undt3ch well, I cant seem to ssh in 1146541748 M * s0undt3ch I always get to my real home instead of the guest's 1146541767 M * daniel_hozac you forgot to bind your host's sshd to the host's IP address(es). 1146541774 M * Skram yeapps. 1146541807 M * s0undt3ch hum, how do I do that? 1146541815 M * Skram so in the sshd_config make sure to have it only listen on the hosts' ip 1146541900 M * Skram hercules / # cat /etc/ssh/sshd_config | grep ListenAddress 1146541900 M * Skram ListenAddress 70.86.176.2 1146541906 M * Skram Like that, s0undt3ch 1146541996 M * s0undt3ch not it's good, I binded both ssh servers to their addresses 1146542004 M * s0undt3ch s/not/now/ 1146542008 M * s0undt3ch thanks 1146542010 M * Skram ooook 1146542016 M * Skram No Problem-o. 1146547087 J * yarihm ~yarihm@217.150.242.80 1146547346 J * _coocoon_ ~coocoon@p54A06FEF.dip.t-dialin.net 1146547351 M * _coocoon_ morning 1146550628 J * kilgur user@p508120BD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1146550655 M * kilgur hi 1146550972 J * Hmmmm ~Hmmmm@221.135.51.19 1146550977 J * matvey ~matvey@host-234-246.netflow.ru 1146551072 Q * matvey Quit: 1146551451 J * matvey ~matvey@host-234-246.netflow.ru 1146551484 M * matvey good day! 1146553077 Q * are|lunch Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1146553102 Q * yarihm Quit: Leaving 1146553152 J * chelli ~thomas@PC1.ideolabs.TGZ-Ilmenau.de 1146553944 Q * mcp Read error: Connection reset by peer 1146553944 J * _mcp ~hightower@wolk-project.de 1146553948 N * _mcp mcp 1146554805 J * ||Cobra|| ~cob@pc-csa01.science.uva.nl 1146555251 J * pagano ~pagano@lappagano.cnaf.infn.it 1146556024 Q * pollux Quit: kernel upgrade 1146556338 J * ntrs_ ~ntrs@dsl-203-81-rt2-bras.wnvl.centurytel.net 1146556360 Q * kilgur Read error: Connection reset by peer 1146556734 Q * ntrs Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1146557523 N * otaku42_away otaku42 1146557537 J * anonc ~anonc@staffnet.internode.com.au 1146558253 J * Viper0482 ~Viper0482@p549777D0.dip.t-dialin.net 1146558990 Q * shedi Quit: Leaving 1146561277 J * are|lunch ~are@p54A0A148.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1146561393 N * are|lunch _are_ 1146561982 Q * Viper0482 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1146562043 Q * Aiken__ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1146562222 Q * Hmmmm Quit: Ex-Chat 1146562244 Q * pagano Read error: Connection reset by peer 1146562497 J * Viper0482 ~Viper0482@p549777D0.dip.t-dialin.net 1146562582 J * shedi ~siggi@tolvudeild-201.lhi.is 1146564602 J * ben_ ~Lukas@88.134.54.56 1146564612 M * ben_ hallo 1146564625 M * ben_ ^^ hello :D 1146564628 M * doener_ morning :) 1146565312 Q * Viper0482 Ping 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1146567904 J * bragon ~bragon@sd866.sivit.org 1146567988 J * orzel ~orzel@berlioz.ethernet.freehackers.org 1146567988 J * doownek ~doownek@emma.ipv6.doownek.org 1146567988 J * Hunger Hunger.hu@Hunger.hu 1146568005 J * chelli ~thomas@PC1.ideolabs.TGZ-Ilmenau.de 1146568005 J * matvey ~matvey@host-234-246.netflow.ru 1146568005 J * Skram ~mark@admins.sentiensystems.net 1146568005 J * doener_ ~doener@i5387CCB7.versanet.de 1146568005 J * s0undt3ch ~s0undt3ch@bl7-248-177.dsl.telepac.pt 1146568005 J * mire ~mire@73-167-222-85.COOL.ADSL.VLine.Verat.NET 1146568113 J * restill ~restill@c-71-197-23-172.hsd1.mi.comcast.net 1146568113 J * h01ger ~holger@socket.layer-acht.org 1146568113 J * MrX ~urk@219.95.5.156 1146568113 J * Zaki ~Zaki@212.118.99.6 1146568113 J * Hollow ~hollow@home.xnull.de 1146568113 J * Wonka produziert@chaos.in-kiel.de 1146568113 J * ray6 ~ray@vh5.gcsc2.ray.net 1146568113 J * sukria ~sukria@www.sukria.net 1146568113 J * BobR_oO odie@212.16.62.52 1146568113 J * tokkee tokkee@213.95.10.25 1146568113 J * cryo ~say@psoft.user.matrix.farlep.net 1146568113 J * gerrit ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net 1146568134 Q * Zaki Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1146568275 J * softi42 ~softi@p549D4F61.dip.t-dialin.net 1146568937 Q * _are_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1146569685 J * kilgur user@p508120BD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1146569717 Q * Viper0482 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1146570231 J * Viper0482 ~Viper0482@p549777D0.dip.t-dialin.net 1146570754 Q * mire Quit: Leaving 1146571035 Q * _coocoon_ Quit: KVIrc 3.2.0 'Realia' 1146571432 Q * mnemoc Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1146571527 Q * Dr4g Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1146571647 J * mnemoc ~amery@216.241.24.10 1146572793 J * discrete ~ZLinux@212.118.96.251 1146574096 Q * restill Quit: Leaving 1146574834 J * Milf ~Miranda@ipsio235.ipsi.fraunhofer.de 1146574852 M * Milf g'day 1146576214 Q * discrete Quit: Leaving 1146576245 J * Zaki ~Zaki@212.118.96.251 1146578928 J * mkhl ~mkhl@200-153-153-80.dsl.telesp.net.br 1146580550 J * ntrs__ ~ntrs@68-188-51-87.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com 1146580565 Q * ntrs_ Read error: Connection reset by peer 1146580650 J * ntrs_ ~ntrs@dsl-203-81-rt2-bras.wnvl.centurytel.net 1146580664 J * _coocoon_ ~coocoon@p54A064DC.dip.t-dialin.net 1146580671 M * _coocoon_ hello 1146580806 Q * chelli Quit: Verlassend 1146580875 M * harry new grsec + vserver patch online!! :) 1146581033 Q * ntrs__ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1146581298 A * Milf just realized the time to get up for linuxtag tomorrow *shivers* 1146581659 Q * ||Cobra|| Remote host closed the connection 1146581706 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1146581710 M * Bertl morning folks! 1146581725 M * harry heyhey 1146581735 J * Gonzo^LT ~gonzo@217.19.180.112 1146581754 N * Gonzo^LT Gonzo^LinuxTag 1146581756 M * Gonzo^LinuxTag hi :) 1146581887 M * Bertl welcome Gonzo^LinuxTag! 1146581987 M * Gonzo^LinuxTag thanks :) 1146582043 M * _coocoon_ hello bertl 1146582061 M * Bertl hey _coocoon_! 1146582097 M * Bertl still didn't find the time to continue to work on the sparc .. but hopefully I will soon 1146582115 M * _coocoon_ yes i have seen it 1146582121 M * _coocoon_ no problem 1146582133 M * _coocoon_ when i shall do something to help u tell me i will 1146582142 M * Bertl okay, great! 1146582246 A * harry gonna put the grsec+vserver patches somewhere else btw... but no worries... i will redirect ;) 1146582248 J * mef_ ~mef@c-68-39-177-97.hsd1.nj.comcast.net 1146582257 M * mef_ hiho 1146582579 M * Bertl welcome mef_! 1146582923 J * ntrs__ ~ntrs@68-188-51-87.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com 1146582940 M * mnemoc harry: versions? does it really works? 1146583252 M * harry it works , yes :) 1146583256 M * harry perfectly ;) 1146583365 Q * ntrs_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1146583741 M * mnemoc harry: versions? :) 1146583807 J * _are_ ~are@p54A0A148.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1146583854 M * Bertl wb _are_! 1146583925 J * brc_ bruce@20151219039.user.veloxzone.com.br 1146583950 M * harry Linux gandalf 2.6.16.12-vs2.0.2-rc18-grsec2.1.9-harry #1 SMP Tue May 2 16:51:27 CEST 2006 i686 GNU/Linux 1146584155 M * mef_ hi bertl 1146584163 M * mef_ had a chance to read the paper yet? 1146584191 M * mef_ any news from the WIDE guy about IPv6? 1146584225 M * Bertl well, you are probably going to hate me, but no, I didn't get to reading the paper yet .. and no, nothing from the WIDE guy 1146584237 M * mef_ bad news on both fronts. 1146584243 M * mef_ I don't hate you... 1146584255 M * Bertl I will probably read it on my way to linux-tag ... 1146584257 M * mef_ I hope you aren't bored by the idea of the paper. 1146584263 M * mef_ good 1146584271 M * Bertl no, not at all, I'm just too busy atm ... 1146584281 M * mef_ of course 1146584316 M * mef_ The main weakness of the paper is section 3, as I had to dump in details about vserver within a few hours of the deadline. 1146584327 M * mef_ I'd like to rewrite / add to it when I get the chance. 1146584429 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: looks like you were right, removing NX_ADMIN destroys everything. 1146584509 M * Bertl yeah, I figured (tonight in my dreams) that we have to add a flag, which basically tells if the lookup is going to be local or 'remote' 1146584541 M * mef_ in case there are other folks interested in this paper that compares vserver with xen at the performance/scalability/isolation level, you can grab a draft of the paper from http://www.cs.princeton.edu/~mef/paper.pdf 1146584545 M * Bertl and when local, we check on ident, otherwise on ADMIN and HOST_ID 1146584568 M * mef_ I of course welcome feedback... please send me email. 1146584580 M * Bertl mef_: I'm sure there is, may we link it on the wiki? 1146584600 M * mef_ sure... but we plan to update it soon. It is still in draft format. 1146584614 M * mef_ But linking from the wiki should be fine. 1146584625 M * Bertl okay, maybe keep the url the same, and make versioned softlinks? 1146584634 M * mef_ oh... 1146584638 M * mef_ well 1146584645 M * mef_ hold on 1146584846 M * mef_ it is now available from http://www.cs.princeton.edu/~mef/research/vserver/paper.pdf make a link to that. 1146584870 M * mef_ I'll update that document periodically, but keep the URL fixed / set in stone. 1146584974 Q * _coocoon_ Quit: KVIrc 3.2.0 'Realia' 1146585215 Q * Milf Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org 1146585876 Q * FireEgl Quit: Bye... 1146586580 N * otaku42 otaku42_away 1146586632 J * _coocoon_ ~coocoon@p54A07D9D.dip.t-dialin.net 1146586741 J * FireEgl Atlantica@Atlantica.Tcldrop.Com 1146586813 J * matt1 ~matta@c-69-248-147-251.hsd1.pa.comcast.net 1146586833 M * matt1 hmm.... mef are you saying in this paper that VServer supports live migration (checkpoint/resume) ? 1146588247 Q * Viper0482 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1146588813 J * Viper0482 ~Viper0482@p54977958.dip.t-dialin.net 1146589295 J * Johan ~finger@lounge.datux.nl 1146589301 M * Johan Hi all 1146589350 M * Johan I am trying to set rlimits with vlimit, however some resources are unavailable, like cpu and data. What could cause it these are unavailable? 1146589358 M * Bertl welcome Johan! 1146589359 Q * Viper0482 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1146589363 M * Johan Thanx Bertl ! 1146589392 M * Bertl did you have a look here: http://linux-vserver.org/Resource+Limits 1146589396 M * Johan yes 1146589405 M * Johan but lemme take a look again ;) 1146589409 M * Bertl okay, you did note the U vs R in the Code column? 1146589429 M * Johan yes 1146589433 M * Bertl basically the 'R' applies to vlimit 1146589439 M * Johan Ah! 1146589444 M * Bertl while the 'U' is used for ulimit 1146589455 M * Bertl note: you can set both in the config tree 1146589463 M * Johan Ok, nice 1146589477 M * Bertl the ulimits will _always_ be per task, while the vlimits will always be for the entire context 1146589482 M * Johan a stupid question, what is the diff beteween r and u limits? 1146589489 M * Johan ah I see 1146589550 M * Bertl does that answer your questions? 1146589572 M * Johan So when ulimits are per task, that means I can't limit the max-cpu usage for a vserver? 1146589578 M * Johan Yes, almost ;P 1146589602 M * Bertl yes, because that limit (in seconds cpu time) does not make much sense for a guest (vserver) 1146589627 M * Johan Ah but ofcourse 1146589632 M * Johan thanx man! 1146589649 M * Bertl you can limit the CPU resource usage with the scheduler parameters 1146589697 M * Bertl http://linux-vserver.org/vsched+explained 1146589714 M * Johan Ok lemme bookmark that 1146589720 M * Bertl okay, I'm off for now .. back later in the evening ... 1146589740 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1146589753 M * Johan Ok thanx for the info,bye 1146589851 J * Viper0482 ~Viper0482@p54977958.dip.t-dialin.net 1146590230 Q * lilalinux Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1146590528 Q * kilgur Read error: Connection reset by peer 1146590740 J * lilalinux ~plasma@dslb-084-058-210-242.pools.arcor-ip.net 1146591268 J * mire ~mire@73-167-222-85.COOL.ADSL.VLine.Verat.NET 1146592114 Q * _coocoon_ Quit: KVIrc 3.2.0 'Realia' 1146592323 Q * shedi Quit: Leaving 1146592577 M * s0undt3ch yesterday I upgraded util-vserver now I get a bunch of proc errors 1146592580 M * s0undt3ch soluion? 1146592629 Q * gerrit Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1146592966 M * s0undt3ch last error is 1146593012 M * s0undt3ch can not change context: migrate kernel feature missing and 'compat' API disabled: Function not implemented /proc/uptime can not be accessed. Usually, this is caused by procfs-security. 1146593429 M * s0undt3ch I re-emerged the same package and did: 1146593430 M * s0undt3ch setattr --barrier /vservers 1146593433 M * s0undt3ch same error 1146593449 M * s0undt3ch /vservers: Function not implemented 1146593795 M * Gonzo^LinuxTag sure, you bootet a kernel with vserver patches? 1146593838 M * s0undt3ch err, your right I didn't the old one is still the default one 1146593851 M * s0undt3ch Gonzo^LinuxTag: thnaks 1146593885 M * Gonzo^LinuxTag fine :) 1146594549 Q * Gonzo^LinuxTag Quit: Leaving 1146595062 Q * Viper0482 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1146595622 J * Viper0482 ~Viper0482@p549767BA.dip.t-dialin.net 1146596042 J * shedi ~siggi@inferno.lhi.is 1146596707 Q * _are_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1146597071 Q * mkhl Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1146597970 M * ben_ somebody know a good serial ata raid host adapter for linux software raid? 1146598061 J * yoh ~yoh@ravana.rutgers.edu 1146598075 M * yoh Hi To all Vserver People 1146598132 M * matti Hi to you. 1146598134 M * matti Stranger. 1146598135 M * matti ;] 1146598219 M * yoh a tiny question which annoyed me enough to kill the server :-) my vserver has virtual IP (10,1.0.2) and it hosts apache which keeps debian mirror... my iptables -t nat has appropriate DNAT entries to forward traffic over to 10.1.0.2:80 but whenever I am trying to access that webserver from the localhost all traffic goes through lo although I am using external IP 1146598224 M * yoh why is it so? 1146598237 M * yoh matti, Hi ;-) 1146598279 M * yoh I played with iptables yesterday night and just brought them to be unusable :-) now they are ready for the second trial ;-) 1146598483 J * _are_ are@dslb-084-057-130-113.pools.arcor-ip.net 1146598547 M * yoh so why all the traffic destined to local external IP goes through the lo... although there is no route entry to lo at all.... 1146598557 M * yoh I just don't know specifics of the loopback :-/ 1146598644 M * daniel_hozac all local traffic always use lo. 1146598736 M * yoh how to mangle those packets (some of them destined to www) to go through another interface (and demangle on the wya back)? any ideas? 1146598770 M * daniel_hozac you can't. it's local traffic, so it will use the local interface. 1146598950 M * yoh is there any other solution? probably it is not good to make lo available for vserver (if possible), isn't it? 1146598950 Q * Viper0482 Remote host closed the connection 1146599038 M * daniel_hozac you should write IP-based rules. 1146599324 J * mkhl ~mkhl@200-148-41-57.dsl.telesp.net.br 1146599377 M * yoh daniel_hozac, sorry - didn't get it... they are IP based... the problem is that lo traffic doesn't get into vserver at all regardless of IP 1146599417 M * daniel_hozac yoh: why wouldn't it? if the traffic is destined for the guest, it will get there... 1146599571 M * yoh khm.... ok - let me give a 2nd spin to see if I missed something 1146600434 J * durnew durnew@c-24-7-55-128.hsd1.ca.comcast.net 1146600767 M * yoh well... so all lo traffic gets accepted... nothing gets dropped... does lo traffic gets into PREROUTING of nat at all? I don't see any change in the counts... 1146600797 M * yoh and there is no entries in apache logs ... so nothing arrives into vserver's www 1146600844 M * daniel_hozac so what do your rules look like? how are you connecting to it? 1146600951 M * yoh daniel_hozac, 1 sec 1146601031 Q * durnew Quit: 1146601155 M * yoh daniel_hozac, sorry it is a bit messy http://pastebin.com/694924 1146601228 M * yoh daniel_hozac, iptables rules are populated by ipmasq firewall + few custom mods 1146601324 M * yoh daniel_hozac, I just don't understand how vserver can see the traffic on lo interface if it only binds to ethX 1146601349 M * daniel_hozac Linux networking is not interface based, it's IP based. 1146601359 M * daniel_hozac the same applies to vserver. 1146601435 M * daniel_hozac so how are you trying to connect to it? 1146601452 M * daniel_hozac do you get anything from the LOG rule in PREROUTING when you do it? 1146601563 J * jayeola ~jayeola@host-87-74-46-211.bulldogdsl.com 1146601586 M * jayeola hey chaps 1146601637 J * gerrit ~gerrit@bi01p1.co.us.ibm.com 1146601697 M * daniel_hozac hello 1146601796 M * jayeola do you know if many ppl have been successfull in creating guests in "foreign" OS? for example, debian host and rpm-based guest. 1146601825 M * jayeola i'd like to learn how to create guest images (within a chroot i think) 1146601839 M * [PUPPETS]Gonzo jayeola: this is not problem 1146601848 M * jayeola ah? 1146601878 M * jayeola you can point me to a few docs/guides and i'll happily read and use them 1146601916 M * jayeola there are tools available out there but i'd love to build my own guests if possible 1146601941 M * [PUPPETS]Gonzo well, http://linux-vserver.org/ - crawl through the wiki :) 1146601997 M * jayeola ah thank you 1146602158 M * yoh daniel_hozac, nothing from the local IP: dmesg | grep SRC=165.230.95.86 1146602166 M * yoh daniel_hozac, is empty... 1146602177 M * yoh and as I said - counts don't change on PREROUTING 1146602266 M * daniel_hozac yoh: don't grep. use tail. 1146602303 M * daniel_hozac jayeola: just installing the utils needed for the build method you want to use should suffice. 1146602356 M * jayeola thanks. busy loooking at the wiki now and making notes. 1146602423 M * yoh daniel_hozac, well.. it is just not there... but here is the tail after I tried to go to the server from lynx http://pastebin.com/694989 1146602469 M * daniel_hozac yoh: and again, how are you accessing it? from what IP, to what IP? 1146602979 M * doener_ yoh: traffic originating from the box does not pass through PREROUTING 1146603025 M * doener_ http://list.linux-vserver.org/archive/vserver/msg06667.html -- there's some nice ascii art that shows which chains a packets passes 1146603031 M * yoh daniel_hozac, from 64.233.167.86 to 64.233.167.86 1146603044 M * yoh doener_, thanks - I will look in a sec... 1146603099 M * daniel_hozac yoh: and you verified that with tcpdump? 1146603108 Q * ben_ Read error: Connection reset by peer 1146603156 M * yoh doener_, it states that packets from local prcesses do not go through POSTROUTING... and I am interested in PREROUTING.... 1146603172 M * yoh doener_, my bad 1146603182 M * yoh doener_, silly me... :-) yeay - next line... 1146603227 M * yoh so without going through PREROUTING they never get to be seen by apache listening on 10.1.0.2 1146603272 M * doener_ yeah, because they are still destined to 64.244.167.86:80, and there is noone listening on that port 1146603374 M * yoh heh heh... so I am doomed... ;-) 1146603384 M * yoh thank you guys for clarification :-) 1146603597 M * _are_ yoh: nat table? OUTPUT should be fine for locally generated packets 1146605066 M * yoh _are_, do you mean to redirect them to 10.1.0.2 in OUTPUT? 1146605248 M * _are_ yes 1146605259 M * _are_ nat table, ofc 1146605282 M * _are_ recent iptables / kernels got that feature 1146605308 M * daniel_hozac recent? hasn't the NAT table always had an OUTPUT chain? 1146605345 M * _are_ daniel_hozac: well, might be i only noticed it now as I played games with mangle table last week 1146605395 M * yoh _are_, YOU ARE THE WINNER!!! 1146605410 M * _are_ oh, nice to hear 1146605597 M * yoh _are_, thanks... simple solution and it works... why I didn't try it myself? :-) 1146605624 M * yoh hopefully there are no evil side effects ;-) 1146605912 J * Aiken ~james@tooax6-146.dialup.optusnet.com.au 1146606309 P * yoh Leaving 1146606443 M * s0undt3ch I need some opinions, still haven't moved my server into vserver, still reading and seting up stuff for a clean move 1146606479 M * s0undt3ch about routing/firewalling, should the vserver host manage it or should I create a guest for that? 1146606539 M * s0undt3ch I'd like after all has been setup to do some traffic shaping for each guest 1146606541 M * daniel_hozac networking happens on the host. 1146606565 M * s0undt3ch k, one less doubt 1146606619 M * s0undt3ch now, one user said he prefered to have each guest on it's own partition using LVM, is there documentation for that somewhere? 1146606664 M * daniel_hozac then you won't get all the benefits of unification/hashification. 1146606689 M * s0undt3ch how's that and what's that? 1146606749 M * daniel_hozac http://linux-vserver.org/alpha+util-vserver 1146606774 M * daniel_hozac basically lets you take several similar guests and make them use less disk space/RAM, thanks to sharing. 1146606797 M * s0undt3ch hum, interesting 1146607000 N * Bertl_oO Bertl 1146607005 M * Bertl evening folks! 1146607011 M * daniel_hozac evening! 1146607058 M * s0undt3ch man, the flower page is really ugly and hard to read.... 1146607098 M * morrigan i think that's the intention, yes :) 1146607383 M * Bertl morrigan: which stylesheet? 1146607412 M * morrigan Bertl: none, of course :) I'm trying the IE experience :) 1146607435 M * Bertl eeek! 1146607690 M * s0undt3ch morrigan: you're page? 1146607694 M * s0undt3ch err 1146607698 M * s0undt3ch morrigan: your page? 1146607720 M * morrigan s0undt3ch: um, no. definitly not. I'm not that evil. 1146607763 M * s0undt3ch uff, you were up to some verbose slaps if it was :) 1146607788 M * morrigan please feel free to direct any verbal abuse at Bertl :) 1146607795 A * morrigan points 1146607834 M * daniel_hozac i guess ensc is more deserving though :) 1146607838 M * Bertl it's Enrico's page ... 1146607855 M * Bertl and I really like it, especially the weddpage style 1146607871 M * s0undt3ch ugh... 1146607874 M * daniel_hozac i agree. 1146607914 M * s0undt3ch is hard to read/keep reading it 1146607930 M * s0undt3ch makes me want to forget that info :| 1146607935 M * doener_ s0undt3ch: with weedstyle? 1146607944 M * s0undt3ch what weedstyle? 1146607949 M * s0undt3ch what's that? 1146607964 M * doener_ what browser do you use? 1146607978 M * s0undt3ch never mind, weed ;) 1146607985 M * s0undt3ch yeah I like the weed 1146607995 M * s0undt3ch still don't like the page :) 1146608027 M * doener_ maybe you prefer the boring style then? 1146608032 M * s0undt3ch don't tell me that I'll read it perfectly If I smoke a joint ;) 1146608048 M * s0undt3ch doener_: no, I just prefer readable styles 1146608067 M * daniel_hozac weedpage is perfectly readable. 1146608076 Q * Johan Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1146608084 M * doener_ only 'gras' and 'flower' are bad 1146608106 M * doener_ well, gras1 isn't that easy on the eyes either 1146609009 M * Bertl okay, off to bed now ... have a nice whatever everyone! cya tomorrow! 1146609019 M * Bertl (or later, we'll see :) 1146609028 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1146609121 Q * matt1 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1146611427 M * brc_ bertl sorry for being out for so long i was on vacation 1146611430 M * brc_ i will be scripting in 30 minutes 1146611431 M * brc_ L:) 1146611818 Q * mkhl Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1146612330 J * shuri ~shuri@64.235.209.226 1146613297 J * are|lunch are@dslb-084-057-138-099.pools.arcor-ip.net 1146613682 Q * _are_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds