1146268858 Q * ntrs_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1146268982 M * Bertl btw, I opt for moving daniel_hozac to the developers section on our Hall'o'Fame, any objections?
1146269143 M * Hollow Bertl: for test reports.. http://vtpaste.croup.de/2 
1146269154 M * doener fine with me
1146269178 M * Bertl Hollow: hmm, not resolvable?
1146269191 M * daniel_hozac works fine here..
1146269196 M * doener here as well
1146269212 M * Hollow well, it's in dns < 24 hrs
1146269234 M * Hollow 85.10.237.58 would be the IP
1146269241 M * doener funny, firefox shows the page, but 'host' reports NXDOMAIN :)
1146269250 M * Hollow heh
1146269272 M * daniel_hozac my host both tells me the IP and says NXDOMAIN :)
1146269289 M * Bertl interesting, I see the nameserver entry
1146269310 M * Bertl and the nameserver also 'knows' about it, but I don't get the host entry
1146269374 M * Bertl ah, your third nameserver does not know about it :)
1146269380 M * Hollow anyway, it's just a pastebin i setup for test reports.. 
1146269384 M * Hollow Bertl: hm..
1146269385 M * Bertl and it seems I accidentially got that one :)
1146269411 M * Bertl dig vtpaste.croup.de @85.10.198.150
1146269582 M * Hollow argh
1146269594 M * Hollow The slave I/O thread stops because master and slave have different values for the COLLATION_SERVER global variable
1146269756 J * ntrs ~ntrs@68-188-51-87.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com
1146269761 M * Bertl welcome ntrs!
1146269778 M * Hollow Bertl: ok, works again ;)
1146269794 M * daniel_hozac i think we'll need http://daniel.hozac.com/vserver/delta-plm-fix03d.diff too (for devel).
1146269811 M * daniel_hozac (at the very least the first hunk)
1146269909 M * Bertl Hollow: great! this one is persistant?
1146269917 M * daniel_hozac hmm, but that won't work...
1146269968 M * daniel_hozac ok, forget all about the mm/filemap.c hunks for now.
1146270035 M * Hollow Bertl: yes, i can leave it there...
1146270046 M * Hollow i also have a .bashrc oneline to paste stdin
1146270065 M * Hollow curl -F poster=Hollow -F "code2=<-" -F "parent_pid=" -F "paste=Send" http://vtpaste.croup.de/pastebin.php
1146270073 M * Bertl okay, then I will learn that url for the future, maybe also a redirect from paste.linux-vserver.org?
1146270112 M * Hollow if you point the domain at the above ip, we even need no redirection..
1146270128 M * Bertl okay, but you probably need to handle that name then
1146270142 M * Hollow yup, doing it right now
1146270241 M * Hollow ok, done
1146270396 M * daniel_hozac hmm, why does mm/filemap.c use a struct iovec? shouldn't it use a struct kvec?
1146270548 M * Bertl /var/www/paste.linux-vserver.org/lib/pastebin/db.mysql.class.php on line 49 Unable to connect to database
1146270562 M * Bertl hmm, linebreak :)
1146270617 M * Bertl okay, http://paste.linux-vserver.org/ should work
1146270657 M * daniel_hozac hey cool.
1146270668 M * daniel_hozac just for test results or general purpose?
1146270695 M * Bertl well, I'd assume we use it for all posting related stuff, no?
1146270711 M * Bertl (at leat that would make sense to me)
1146270723 M * Hollow yup, ok as well
1146270755 M * Hollow Bertl: but the one-liner above needs no-color output, could you add that to testme.sh? testfs.sh already has -n
1146270769 M * Bertl yep, is in my queue
1146270787 M * Hollow ok, good :)
1146270797 M * Bertl but, funny idea, maybe we should use the color codes for the pastebin too?
1146270818 M * Bertl shouldn't be too hard to rewrite those color sequences ...
1146270818 M * Hollow hm.. i.e. code hacking ;)
1146270854 M * Hollow (and it's php)
1146270858 M * Hollow ..
1146270876 M * Bertl btw, it looks pretty nice IMHO
1146270887 M * Hollow it's the one from pastebin.com
1146270892 M * Hollow you can download the source
1146270918 M * Hollow but i increased the max number of posts, so no entries will be deleted in the next couple of years probably ;)
1146271072 M * Hollow i also tested for the lateancy issue again with rc18, seems all gone now :)
1146271100 M * Bertl great!
1146271170 M * Hollow off to bed then.. night all!
1146271178 M * Bertl good night Hollow!
1146271187 M * daniel_hozac good night!
1146271505 M * daniel_hozac http://daniel.hozac.com/vserver/delta-kvec-fix01.diff
1146271635 M * Bertl hmm, where does the new inline function come from?
1146271695 M * daniel_hozac it's mm/filemap.h:filemap_set_next_iovec for kvec.
1146271736 M * Bertl so we duplicate that?
1146271751 M * daniel_hozac yeah, like all the other functions.
1146271783 M * Bertl okay, do you see a chance to re-unify them?
1146271795 M * Bertl maybe by generalizing one?
1146271838 M * daniel_hozac well, they operate on different structs.
1146271917 M * daniel_hozac (the structs should be the same, with the only difference being the __user of iov_base in iovec)
1146271956 M * Bertl hmm, okay, let's duplicate them for now
1146273333 Q * mkhl Quit: 
1146273563 Q * doener Quit: leaving
1146274530 Q * DEac- Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1146275311 J * DEac- ~deac@xdsl-81-173-162-238.netcologne.de
1146276900 M * daniel_hozac hmm, why is buf const char * in generic_kernel_file_write? a constant buffer doesn't make much sense, does it?
1146276945 M * daniel_hozac (plm + kvec gave me a warning about it)
1146277250 M * Bertl checking
1146277358 M * Bertl hmm, seems like the buffer contents is written
1146277377 M * Bertl so a const IMHO makes sense there (from this point of view)
1146277388 M * daniel_hozac hmm?
1146277406 M * daniel_hozac is there a missing no in that sentence?
1146277431 M * Bertl IMHO it's written from the buffer, not to ...
1146277614 M * daniel_hozac ah, yes.
1146277682 M * daniel_hozac we'll need the .iov_base = (char *) buf cast then in generic_kernel_file_write.
1146277864 M * daniel_hozac delta-kvec-fix01 updated in place.
1146278021 M * daniel_hozac that was the only vserver-related warning from the rc18+plm+kvec allyesconfig.
1146286443 M * Bertl okay, off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
1146286453 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
1146286656 Q * Smutje Quit: leaving
1146291494 Q * Hollow Remote host closed the connection
1146291882 J * ksf ~krazy_sys@202.80.169.52
1146293304 J * Smutje ~Smutje@xdsl-87-78-98-134.netcologne.de
1146296391 J * Hollow ~hollow@home.xnull.de
1146296967 Q * _coocoon_ Quit: KVIrc 3.2.0 'Realia'
1146298734 J * bonbons ~bonbons@83.222.39.134
1146299479 J * _coocoon_ ~coocoon@p54A0595B.dip.t-dialin.net
1146300185 Q * _coocoon_ Quit: KVIrc 3.2.0 'Realia'
1146301366 J * intrigeri ~user@intrigeri.boum.org
1146301369 M * intrigeri hello
1146301469 M * intrigeri I'm wondering if the BME patch is already included in 2.0.2-rc* against 2.6.1{5,6} 
1146301643 M * intrigeri I've tried to compile a 2.6.16 kernel with vs2.0.2-rc15 and  patch-2.6.16-rc1-bme0.06.2.diff but the compilation fails, so I guess this is not the tright patch
1146301943 M * intrigeri and when I try to patch a 2.6.15.6+vs2.0.2-rc13 with patch-2.6.15-bme0.06.2.diff, I get tons of "already applied patch detected" errors, 
1146301948 M * intrigeri that's why I'm wondering
1146301964 M * intrigeri micah, any clue ?
1146302079 M * intrigeri second question: is BME included in 2.1.x series ? having lost track of vserver patch dev a few months ago, I don't remember
1146302351 Q * ZLinux Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1146302477 J * ZLinux ~Zaki@212.107.125.149
1146303883 J * _coocoon_ ~coocoon@p54A0595B.dip.t-dialin.net
1146304556 Q * DEac- Remote host closed the connection
1146306767 J * Viper0482 ~Viper0482@p54977E50.dip.t-dialin.net
1146308427 Q * softi42 Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1146308583 Q * shedi Quit: Leaving
1146308981 J * softi42 ~softi@p549D59F6.dip.t-dialin.net
1146309768 M * daniel_hozac intrigeri: yes, BME has been included in 2.1, as well as 2.0.2 since the early rcs.
1146310088 M * _coocoon_ daniel_hozac: need a little bit help don't know why i am getting this error on testme.sh http://paste.linux-vserver.org/3, maybe it is stupid but have tried a lot of settings
1146310088 Q * sukria Read error: Connection reset by peer
1146310159 M * daniel_hozac _coocoon_: you enabled the legacy version option in the kernel, and disabled the legacy APIs in util-vserver.
1146310191 M * _coocoon_ hm ok will reconfigure util-vserver
1146310252 J * Zaki_ ~Zaki@212.118.99.60
1146310394 Q * ZLinux Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1146311799 J * sukria ~sukria@www.sukria.net
1146311803 Q * FireEgl Quit: Bye...
1146312123 Q * ksf Quit: 
1146312380 Q * _coocoon_ Quit: KVIrc 3.2.0 'Realia'
1146316725 J * lilalinux ~plasma@dslb-084-058-232-034.pools.arcor-ip.net
1146316905 M * tokkee Is it possible to run oidentd in a vserver?
1146316924 M * Loki|muh yep
1146317013 M * tokkee Hum... 
1146317034 M * tokkee A default installation does not start...
1146317075 J * _coocoon_ ~coocoon@p54A075BC.dip.t-dialin.net
1146317216 M * tokkee oidentd[17327]: Fatal: Unable to setup listening socket
1146317264 M * tokkee What have I done wrong?
1146317330 M * tokkee *ga* The oidentd in the host already used the address...
1146317344 M * Loki|muh hehe ;)
1146317456 M * tokkee *ga* s/used/uses/ ;-)
1146318886 J * doener ~doener@i5387CAB9.versanet.de
1146319520 M * [PUPPETS]Gonzo doener sounds good, I think I'm going to get one :)
1146320453 J * matti matti@linux.gentoo.pl
1146320719 M * lilalinux tsk
1146320842 Q * Hollow Read error: Connection reset by peer
1146321246 Q * nebuchadnezzar Quit: ERC Version 5.1.2 $Revision: 1.796.2.4 $ (IRC client for Emacs)
1146321310 J * nebuchadnezzar ~nebu@zion.asgardr.info
1146321869 J * FireEgl Atlantica@Atlantica.Tcldrop.Com
1146322146 J * Zaki[] ~Zaki@212.118.97.162
1146322389 Q * Zaki_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1146323854 J * hillct ~H@client200-5.dsl.intrex.net
1146323882 M * hillct Good afternoon all
1146323890 M * phedny hi hillct 
1146323916 M * hillct I'm running 2.01-pre2 and having problems with RLimits
1146323976 M * phedny I didn't work with RLimits, so you might want someone else to help you ;)
1146323990 M * hillct I just added a couple new vservers to this one box and am now worried about memory usage, but last time I tried limiting memory, it didn't work worth a damn
1146323998 M * hillct Bertl_zZ: ping
1146324017 M * hillct phedny: thanks tho
1146324027 M * Skram Hey all.
1146324039 M * hillct hey Skram
1146324232 J * W0nka ~wklaebe@wonka.toppoint.de
1146324262 Q * Wonka Quit: vserver basteln
1146324292 M * doener hillct: http://linux-vserver.org/Memory+Management and http://linux-vserver.org/Memory+Allocation and some of the pages linked from there, are probably worth reading
1146324329 N * W0nka Wonka
1146324331 M * hillct doener: guess those are new (since I last thought about vserver config 8 montrhs ago)
1146324335 M * hillct thanks
1146324338 A * hillct reads
1146324360 J * shedi ~siggi@inferno.lhi.is
1146326275 M * hillct interesting
1146326284 M * hillct although, aparently inconsistant
1146326292 M * hillct doener: ping
1146326333 M * harry in.imapproxyd[26582]: ServerInit(): setrlimit() failed to set max number
1146326333 M * hillct doener: the Memory Alocation page talks about the limiting files being at the top level of the vserver config tree /etc/vservers/<vserver>/rss etc
1146326334 M * harry of open file descriptors to 6154: Operation not permitted
1146326381 M * hillct doener: the flower page talks about such limits being set inside the rlimits directory /etc/vservers/<vserver>/rlimits/rss etc
1146326424 M * hillct any guedance here?
1146326477 A * harry wasn't following
1146326479 M * harry sry
1146326697 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1146326704 M * Bertl morning folks!
1146326708 M * Bertl hillct: pong!
1146326737 M * hillct Bertl: !!!
1146326744 M * hillct Bertl: you're my hero!
1146326752 M * harry hey Bertl 
1146326758 M * Bertl hillct: am I?
1146326763 M * Bertl hey harry!
1146326764 M * daniel_hozac hillct: memory allocation is wrong.
1146326767 M * daniel_hozac i meant to update that..
1146326805 M * hillct so the limits are specified in the rlimits directory as per the flower page?
1146326855 M * daniel_hozac yes.
1146326859 M * daniel_hozac the flower page is always right.
1146326902 M * hillct K
1146326931 M * hillct last time I tried to use an rss limit it just killed the vserver if memory serves (this was 8 months back)
1146326945 M * harry webmailtest:/# ulimit -n 8192
1146326945 M * harry bash: ulimit: open files: cannot modify limit: Operation not permitted
1146326947 M * hillct which i guess is preferable to killing the host
1146326987 M * Bertl hillct: you probably want hard and soft limits with devel
1146327011 M * hillct my last upgrade experience was not good
1146327016 M * hillct live production server
1146327034 M * hillct so I may hold off on that for a bit, but it's good to know they're there.
1146327054 M * Bertl alternatively you can set very high limits
1146327061 M * hillct yeah
1146327064 M * hillct which is fine
1146327068 M * Bertl just to make sure that a rogue guest does not take down the system
1146327081 M * hillct I just had the host run out of memory last night, not 10 minutes after I went to bed
1146327092 M * hillct so i want to try and avoid that in the future
1146327145 M * Bertl hmm, even swap space?
1146327166 M * hillct I have 8GB physical and 2GB swap
1146327187 M * waldi Bertl: does the ccaps problem have a CVE id assigned?
1146327202 M * Bertl CVE?
1146327242 M * waldi read http://cve.mitre.org/
1146327290 M * Bertl well, it's a little hard to classify
1146327304 M * Bertl the typical setup uses ccaps of 0x101
1146327322 M * Bertl which means that user can set the hostname and use ping
1146327418 M * Bertl so, while I do not want to play down the issue, it is a severe issue from our PoV
1146327432 M * waldi okay, CVE is already requested
1146327443 M * Bertl the typical exploitability is probably not really there
1146327485 M * Bertl okay, off to dinenr now .. back shortly
1146327492 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
1146327496 M * harry hmm...
1146327500 M * harry no answer for my problem?
1146327521 M * harry afaik: echo 8192 > /etc/vservers/<name>/rlimits/nofile
1146327523 M * harry ?
1146327540 M * harry or give the vps the appropriate capability?
1146327891 M * daniel_hozac that or disabling the limit setting in your daemon.
1146327910 M * harry it's probably there for a reason
1146327938 M * thorkild I am currently using nfs to let the guests mount a specific subset of directories from the host. This works quite well as far as I can see, but it got me thinking, is there another way? Is it possible to give the guests the capability to mount part of a filesystem from the host? (I am mostly curious, nfs solves my situation)
1146328045 M * Wonka can anyone tell me how a guest can see how much of it's Disk Limit it has used?
1146328216 M * hillct harry: I would go with setting the CAPs
1146328249 M * daniel_hozac Wonka: df
1146328269 M * Wonka argh! i forgot to chxid...
1146328275 M * daniel_hozac hillct: only if you trust your guests...
1146328291 M * daniel_hozac thorkild: mount --bind from the host into the guest provides the lowest overhead.
1146328294 M * hillct this is a mail server right?
1146328304 M * harry now for something completely different
1146328307 M * hillct wou won't have users with significant access
1146328308 M * harry i need a smartphone
1146328311 M * harry with everything on it
1146328325 M * Wonka daniel_hozac: and then, df will show $limit available?
1146328327 M * harry i NEED: wifi, bluetooth, cellphone, ...
1146328342 M * daniel_hozac Wonka: yep.
1146328346 M * hillct I just got a SE z520a
1146328351 M * hillct nice phone
1146328357 M * hillct no EDGE support tho
1146328368 M * hillct get a Z500 if you want EDGE
1146328376 M * hillct although
1146328381 M * Wonka daniel_hozac: can i see which XID a file belongs to?
1146328382 M * hillct no wifi for either
1146328386 M * daniel_hozac Wonka: lsxid.
1146328390 M * Wonka thx
1146328393 M * harry i need wifi
1146328404 M * hillct buily in modem support though, which is what I need
1146328416 M * hillct I use it as a bluetooth modem with my laptop
1146328951 M * thorkild daniel_hozac: cool, I didn't know you could bind through the barrier. I'll try that. thanks. 
1146329017 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1146329021 M * Bertl back now ...
1146329033 M * daniel_hozac thorkild: note that the guest cannot request a mount --bind when it feels like it, you'll need to do that from the host.
1146329043 M * daniel_hozac wb Bertl
1146329054 Q * Viper0482 Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1146329337 M * Bertl harry: regarding your limit issue, did you check hard limits?
1146329527 J * Blissex ~Blissex@82-69-39-138.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk
1146329536 M * Bertl welcome Blissex!
1146329549 M * Blissex hi!
1146329608 J * Viper0482 ~Viper0482@p5497502D.dip.t-dialin.net
1146330515 M * Wonka aaaargh!
1146330522 M * Wonka i cannot enter my vserver anymore
1146330538 M * Wonka not even from the host
1146330542 M * daniel_hozac hmm?
1146330552 M * Wonka "file not found", it says
1146330563 M * daniel_hozac for? /dev/pmtx?
1146330567 M * daniel_hozac +spelling
1146330573 M * Wonka after a reboot, i mounted /var/lib/vservers with tagxid
1146330581 M * daniel_hozac ah.
1146330587 M * Wonka then, i ran chxid -R -c chaos /var/lib/vservers/chaos
1146330599 M * Wonka did a "vserver chaos start"
1146330606 M * daniel_hozac and chaos does have a static context?
1146330606 M * Wonka and "vserver chaos enter" errrors
1146330610 M * Wonka yes
1146330630 M * daniel_hozac did you do that to another guest after you did it to chaos?
1146330637 M * daniel_hozac do you have hashified/unified files?
1146330684 M * Wonka they were hashified before, and i did chxid all of my guests
1146330695 M * Wonka hrm
1146330709 M * daniel_hozac chxid -R -c 0 /var/lib/vservers/.hash
1146330724 M * Wonka running...
1146330782 M * Wonka btw, can one automate hashifying all guests at regular intervals?
1146330830 M * daniel_hozac put a cron script that does for i in /etc/vservers/*; do vserver $i hashify; done?
1146330832 M * Skram can anyone think of a clever vanity 800 pertaining to VPSes  I should buy?
1146330928 M * Wonka daniel_hozac: thought there was something not as simple looking ;)
1146331022 Q * lilalinux Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1146331172 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: maybe an option to exclude unified files from chxid?
1146331290 M * Wonka daniel_hozac: thanks. seems to work again.
1146331301 M * Bertl btw, didn't Enrico say he would have more time for the tools now?
1146331554 J * lilalinux ~plasma@dslb-084-058-201-160.pools.arcor-ip.net
1146332166 M * Bertl wb lilalinux!
1146332446 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: yeah, that should probably be made default too.
1146332704 M * Wonka where can i find what the flags in /etc/vservers/<name>/flags do?
1146332730 M * daniel_hozac http://linux-vserver.org/Caps+and+Flags
1146332774 M * Wonka could someone set a link there in the Great Flower Page?
1146332797 M * Wonka .oO( or even better, move the Flower Page to the wiki? )
1146332921 M * Wonka are the legacy flags somehow replaced in 2.0?
1146332928 M * Wonka "legacy" sounds to me like "outdated"
1146332952 M * Bertl Wonka: the problem with moving that is that nobody will keep it up-to-date then
1146332983 M * Wonka mh.
1146332996 M * Wonka wouldn't it be as easy to keep up to date in the wiki?
1146333016 M * Bertl if you do that, great!
1146333031 M * Bertl by default, the Flower Page is auto generated from the sources
1146333035 M * Wonka ah, ok
1146333043 M * Bertl (well, the xml description)
1146333047 M * Wonka that's a Reason[tm]
1146333384 M * nebuchadnezzar sorry to be rude but the flower page is far from being great :-)
1146333396 M * Bertl nebuchadnezzar: why?
1146333415 M * nebuchadnezzar I prever the borring style, the flowers hut my eyes
1146333415 M * nebuchadnezzar :-)
1146333441 M * nebuchadnezzar hurt
1146333452 M * Bertl well, that's why there are severalstylesheets :)
1146333760 M * hillct looks like this is working
1146333764 M * hillct thanks all
1146333770 P * hillct Kopete 0.11.1 : http://kopete.kde.org
1146333860 J * ray6 ~ray@vh5.gcsc2.ray.net
1146333887 M * Bertl wb ray6!
1146333894 M * ray6 ree bertl
1146334013 M * Wonka hrmm
1146334032 M * Wonka how do i make mounts show up in a guest's /etc/mtab?
1146334065 M * Wonka when i start a vserver, only /proc and /dev/pts show up there
1146334069 M * Wonka not /tmp or /
1146334083 M * daniel_hozac how do you mount /tmp and /?
1146334121 M * daniel_hozac and are you sure that's not an initscript in your guest?
1146334133 M * Wonka is not specially mounted, and /tmp is in /etc/vservers/chaos/fstab
1146334140 M * Wonka +/
1146334143 M * Wonka not sure...
1146334190 M * Bertl Wonka: use echo or the mtab in the config
1146334250 M * Wonka "in the config"?
1146334261 M * Wonka like, /etc/vservers/<name>/mtab?
1146334261 M * Bertl echo "/dev/hdv1 / ext2 rw 0 0" >/vservers/<guest>/mtab
1146334275 M * Bertl oops /etc/mtba
1146334284 M * Wonka mh
1146334288 A * Bertl .o( I give up trying to correct that :)
1146334299 M * Wonka should be automatically done on starting, i think...
1146334303 M * daniel_hozac and it is.
1146334314 M * Bertl that's why I said: "or in the config"
1146334360 M * Wonka mh.
1146334489 M * Wonka btw, "df" in a guest shows 161G being available, and 44G being used, despite the guest having a disk limit of 50G and using about 15G
1146334504 M * Wonka i suspect i'm doing something wrong...
1146334718 M * daniel_hozac how did you set the disk limit?
1146335090 Q * Viper0482 Remote host closed the connection
1146335390 M * Wonka daniel_hozac: like said on http://linux-vserver.org/Disk+Limits, put the guest's root into dlimits/0/directory and $((5*1024*1024)) into dlimits/0/space_total
1146335407 M * daniel_hozac you _must_ have inodes_total as well.
1146335421 M * daniel_hozac and reserved.
1146335429 M * daniel_hozac all the entries are required.
1146335440 M * Wonka mhmh
1146335455 Q * mire Quit: Leaving
1146335469 M * daniel_hozac (i suppose we could use some "sane defaults" for those...)
1146335497 M * Wonka sane value for inodes_total?
1146335516 M * Wonka .oO( how do i find out how many inodes the FS supports?
1146335520 M * daniel_hozac if you don't want to limit it, df -i
1146335596 M * harry Bertl: where do i check hard limits?
1146335617 M * daniel_hozac ulimit -H
1146335640 M * harry how do you change hard limits?
1146335641 M * Bertl ulimit -Ha
1146335651 M * Bertl same as soft limits, with ulimit
1146335681 M * Wonka still 44G used, 161G avail
1146335688 M * harry webmailtest:/# ulimit -H -n 8192
1146335688 M * harry bash: ulimit: open files: cannot modify limit: Operation not permitted
1146335709 M * harry and, why can't i find a ulimit binary?
1146335717 M * daniel_hozac Wonka: you'll need to shut the guest down, and then remove the cache file.
1146335719 M * harry which ulimit gives me nothing :s
1146335725 M * Bertl harry: because it's a bash internal :=
1146335736 M * harry thought so :s
1146335738 M * daniel_hozac Wonka: and you did restart the guest after setting it too, right?
1146335742 M * harry wasn't sure 
1146335747 M * Bertl harry: I suspect that your host has already a hard limit
1146335755 M * harry Bertl: it's all standard
1146335756 J * mire ~mire@231-167-222-85.COOL.ADSL.VLine.verat.net
1146335761 M * harry so i don't know ;)
1146335762 M * Wonka daniel_hozac: i restarted it, but didn't know about removing the cache file
1146335773 M * Bertl harry: on the host, try ulimit -HA
1146335781 M * Bertl ulimit -Ha even
1146335797 M * Bertl the guest will not be able to get over this one easily
1146335849 M * harry it's 1024 :s
1146335859 M * harry can i change this for some vps'es only?
1146335882 M * Bertl basically yes, but I'm not sure if the tools support that, daniel_hozac?
1146335922 M * harry on the flowerpage... /etc/vserver/<name>/etc/rlimits/nofile
1146335923 M * harry ?
1146335942 M * daniel_hozac ulimits/nofile
1146335976 M * Bertl harry: the rlimits are for the entire guest
1146335990 M * Wonka noooow it works
1146335992 M * Bertl harry: the ulimit is for the guest but per process
1146336099 Q * Blissex Remote host closed the connection
1146336620 M * _coocoon_ does anyone know who is responsible for this side http://deb.riseup.net/ ?
1146336848 M * daniel_hozac micah
1146336859 M * _coocoon_ oh aha thanx daiel
1146336862 M * _coocoon_ +n
1146337652 J * W0nka produziert@chaos.in-kiel.de
1146337664 M * Bertl wb W0nka!
1146337695 M * eyck WIlly W0nka
1146337736 M * Bertl hey eyck! you missed a chance to improve legacy support a few days ago ...
1146337784 M * Bertl eyck: but I think we made a good choice anyway
1146337878 M * eyck damn, :( I'm always not there when there's something interesting happening, gotta quit my day job :(
1146337906 M * eyck good, I trust you made the right choices :)
1146337915 M * Bertl hehe, well, you can still object ...
1146337936 M * Bertl we decided to add the hide_netif and info_init for legacy guests
1146337966 M * Bertl (hopefully making them look like the originals)
1146338020 Q * Wonka Quit: vserver basteln beendet
1146338020 N * W0nka Wonka
1146338777 J * f_ ~f_@83-215-237-1.seek.stat.salzburg-online.at
1146338791 M * Bertl welcome f_!
1146338804 M * f_ hi Bertl
1146340202 Q * mnemoc Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1146340676 J * mnemoc ~amery@216.241.24.10
1146341997 Q * mire Quit: Leaving
1146342243 J * mire ~mire@1-167-222-85.COOL.ADSL.VLine.Verat.NET
1146342754 Q * f_ Quit: Leaving
1146342771 J * kir_home ~kir@ffm-nat.sw-soft.de
1146343000 M * Bertl wb mire, mnemoc, kir_home!
1146343056 M * kir_home Bertl, hi :)
1146343304 M * mire hello
1146344007 M * micah is there a difference between  if (!vx_capable(CAP_SYS_ADMIN, VXC_QUOTA_CTL))  and if (!capable(CAP_SYS_ADMIN) && !vx_ccaps(VXC_QUOTA_CTL))
1146344026 M * daniel_hozac yes.
1146344033 M * daniel_hozac significant difference.
1146344035 M * micah well, the capable vs vx_capable
1146344041 M * daniel_hozac it's what fixes the security issue.
1146344047 M * micah yes, I am looking at it now
1146344050 M * daniel_hozac (with users being able to use context capabilities)
1146344053 M * micah but I mean...
1146344059 M * daniel_hozac just look at vx_capable's definition.
1146344076 M * micah is there a difference between if (!vx_capable(CAP_SYS_ADMIN, VXC_QUOTA_CTL)) and (!vx_capable(CAP_SYS_ADMIN) && !vx_ccaps(VXC_QUOTA_CTL))
1146344099 M * micah they both seem to be the same test
1146344131 M * Bertl they are _similar_
1146344149 M * micah oooh, I see it now
1146344157 M * micah difference between vx_capable and vx_ccaps
1146344276 M * daniel_hozac vx_capable uses capable and vx_ccaps.
1146344342 M * micah so this fix changes any occurance of if (!capable(CAP_SYS_ADMIN) to if (!vx_capable(CAP_SYS_ADMIN...?
1146344350 M * daniel_hozac no.
1146344362 M * daniel_hozac any occurence of capable(...) && vx_ccaps.
1146344468 M * micah ok, I'm updating the older sarge patch
1146344853 M * Bertl hmm? which kernel/patch is that?
1146344866 M * daniel_hozac 2.6.8+1.9.5.* IIRC.
1146344874 M * Bertl eeek!
1146344878 M * daniel_hozac indeed.
1146344890 M * Bertl well, I would not bother ...
1146344907 M * Bertl (guess there are at least 3 other issues with that, no?)
1146345242 M * daniel_hozac just 3? :)
1146345415 A * micah raises eyebrows
1146345420 M * micah other issues?
1146345482 M * daniel_hozac well... 2.0, 2.0.1 and 2.0.2 aren't exactly _just_ rebases to newer kernels :)
1146345544 M * micah i did not see any security announcements about issues in those
1146345616 M * daniel_hozac so as long as the bugs aren't marked security, they're fine? :)
1146345654 M * micah i would hope that security bugs that are uncovered are disclosed so that people are aware of the issues
1146346538 M * _coocoon_ micah: hello, have some questions to SysCP installation from http://deb.riseup.net
1146347683 M * _coocoon_ micah:ok i hope u r there afterinstalling the different vservers for mysql postfix apache2 and bind9 i only need to install syscp, because of there is also a way to install it directly from syscp with all recommended applications
1146347999 M * micah _coocoon_: what is the question?
1146348490 M * ray6 oh, syscp with a vservered environment for the individual services? sounds funny
1146348556 M * _coocoon_ micah: 1. why not the way which syscp preferred 2. what if all vserver has configured do i need only install syscp sw
1146348661 M * micah _coocoon_: 1. I wanted to separate services
1146348683 M * micah _coocoon_: 2. yes, I think so, but I dont know how you configured
1146348701 M * _coocoon_ micah: hehe
1146348723 M * _coocoon_ micah: that is my question how must i configure it then
1146348750 M * _coocoon_ also another question is the bind9 problems do theyx appear only with debian woody and sarge
1146348762 M * _coocoon_ bind9 problems in guests
1146348805 M * micah _coocoon_: in some of those instructions are configuration specifics for syscp, such as: http://deb.riseup.net/web-server/syscp/install/apache-vserver/#changes_to_syscp_configuration
1146348829 M * micah _coocoon_: I dont know, I haven't tested etch/sid bind9
1146348870 M * _coocoon_ micah ok thanx alot
1146348914 M * _coocoon_ micah: another thing which i wanted to say is that i love this side it has helped me in a lot of things, thank u very much for this side
1146348915 J * Viper0482 ~Viper0482@p5497502D.dip.t-dialin.net
1146349000 M * micah _coocoon_: hehe, glad you like it, I need to do some updates
1146349066 M * _coocoon_ yes thats right too, thre best thing i like is "Building CPAN modules as debian packages"
1146349073 M * _coocoon_ ;-)
1146349304 M * _coocoon_ hm i mean does the problem also exist with fedora 
1146349316 M * _coocoon_ or only with debian distros
1146349327 M * _coocoon_ the bind9 problem
1146349398 M * Bertl with 2.1.1-rc18 the bind9 problem should be gone
1146349414 M * _coocoon_ oh cool
1146349427 M * _coocoon_ i have this 
1146349432 M * _coocoon_ i will try
1146349435 M * _coocoon_ thanx bertl
1146349516 M * _coocoon_ it works
1146349522 M * _coocoon_ why so complicated
1146349562 M * Bertl well, it was worked around a few days ago
1146349578 M * _coocoon_ cool
1146349847 M * _coocoon_ micah: mysql server is the only needed service which shall run on the host right
1146349898 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving
1146349953 M * micah _coocoon_: I have a vserver for mysql, separate, so the host runs nothing
1146349995 M * _coocoon_ micah: in which vserver do u put spamassassin and antiviral sw
1146350017 M * _coocoon_ micah; and syscp
1146350263 M * _coocoon_ micah: have found it here http://deb.riseup.net/web-server/syscp/Diagram4.png looks good
1146350267 M * _coocoon_ thanx a lot
1146351008 M * micah _coocoon_: we actually do not do any mail processing, but instead only allow forwards
1146351164 M * _coocoon_ micah: ok tahnx a lot
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1146352990 Q * Viper0482 Quit: bin raus, 
1146353116 Q * kir_home Quit: Ухожу я от вас
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1146354541 M * h01ger micah, pong - are you using the plugins as in svn atm?
1146354569 J * _coocoon_ ~coocoon@p54A0644B.dip.t-dialin.net
1146354596 M * micah h01ger: i am using the ones based off of yours right now
1146354621 M * h01ger as in svn ? or a different version? :)
1146354656 M * micah the ones in svn that are based off of yours :)
1146354669 M * micah I slightly modified yours and checked them in
1146354703 M * h01ger yes :) i just dont wanted to try them out and then hear from u, that you u a locally modified version :)
1146354723 M * h01ger good, so i will update my installation
1146354727 M * _coocoon_ micah:h01ger:apropos svn, i've got from hollow the adress to the xmlrpc frontend but i missed the adress, can u please give me the adress 
1146354767 A * h01ger has no idea, _coocoon_  :( 
1146354790 M * micah h01ger: no, i dont have any locally modified ones now, I've been too distracted by my laptop dying and having to re-ip a whole colo
1146354814 M * micah h01ger: and as you know, a working laptop makes debconf so much nicer :)
1146354818 M * h01ger micah, fair enogh :-/
1146354836 M * _coocoon_ ok i thought that u know it no prob thanx
1146354841 A * h01ger grins - will reinstall+cryptsetup mine tomorrow :)
1146354963 M * daniel_hozac _coocoon_: http://dev.croup.de/proj/vserver-utils/browser/trunk/
1146355063 M * _coocoon_ daniel_hozac: very nice thanx