1146009642 Q * ntrs Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1146009660 M * micah matta: so you are saying that a good base VML should be how many pages (or bytes)?
1146009787 M * micah sounds like you are saying 256MB
1146009804 M * micah but I guess it depends on how much memory you have on the system
1146009835 J * ntrs ~ntrs@68-188-51-87.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com
1146010056 M * Bertl welcome ntrs!
1146010061 M * daniel_hozac micah: locked pages is rather rare. 64 pages should probably be sufficient.
1146010116 M * micah true, I'm looking at some other systems and I dont see any locked pages
1146010195 M * Bertl they are used for gpg and similar
1146010237 M * micah hmm, setting VMZ to RSS / RSS*2 doesn't make any sense
1146010245 M * micah that means VMZ will be set very small
1146010283 M * daniel_hozac 2 to be exact :)
1146010289 M * micah yes :)
1146010322 M * micah so would it be a good rough guide to say VMZ should be 3x RSS, or is that not enough?
1146010329 Q * ntrs Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1146010362 M * daniel_hozac i have guests where there's almost 100 times more VM than RSS.
1146010383 M * micah wow
1146010505 Q * gerrit Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1146010578 J * ntrs ~ntrs@68-188-51-87.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com
1146010656 M * Bertl micah: not that unusual, as it is just accumulated (summed up)
1146010691 M * micah hmm, so maybe it doesn't make sense to set a /etc/<vserver>/rlimits/as ?
1146010767 J * doener_ ~doener@i5387C27E.versanet.de
1146010794 M * Bertl well, it's another resource which could be depleted (at least theoretical)
1146010799 M * Bertl welcome doener_!
1146010815 M * micah VSZ=VIRT=VM=/etc/<vserver>/rlimits/as ?
1146010821 M * daniel_hozac yes.
1146010829 M * micah confusing
1146010844 M * Bertl indeed
1146010857 M * Bertl but the problem is, the canonical name is AS
1146010878 M * Bertl nobody gets the association from AS to VM so I used VM in the proc
1146010952 M * Bertl maybe we should sync those names in the future?
1146011017 M * derjohn n8 all !
1146011025 M * Bertl derjohn: good night!
1146011060 Q * ZLinux_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1146011170 Q * doener Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1146011263 J * gerrit ~gerrit@bi01p1.co.us.ibm.com
1146011273 M * micah it is confusing, but it seems like if AS is the canonical name, others should use that
1146011292 M * micah I'm going to pick 4*RSS as my as limit to start with
1146011301 M * Bertl okay, I see no problem in changing the proc entry in the future
1146012536 M * Bertl brc: any issues?
1146012813 M * brc Bertl: phone one sec
1146013067 Q * gerrit Ping timeout: 481 seconds
1146013171 M * brc bertl, back!
1146013211 M * brc Bertl: I am trying setquota but it wont work (mountpoint not found)
1146013222 M * brc What should i do ?
1146013244 M * brc I've mknoded /dev/hda2 which is the ext2 fs but it seems it needs to me mounted
1146013258 M * Bertl it should be mounted, no?
1146013275 M * Bertl it is the device the guest is on, no?
1146013281 M * brc I mean, setquota probrably checks /propc/mounts or something
1146013282 M * brc Yes
1146013287 M * brc ahhh
1146013295 M * Bertl okay, so what you probably need is an entry in /etc/mtab
1146013296 M * brc guests needs a interface just for it ?
1146013309 M * Bertl interface?
1146013325 M * brc Sorry i am almost sleeping. hehe.. i didnt get what you said.t
1146013333 M * brc guest it on /vservers/guest_name which is /dev/hda2
1146013336 M * Bertl I don't know your devices, but I just assume /dev/hda2 is mounted on /vservers or so
1146013346 M * brc i tried setquota on /dev/hda2 which exists on the guest's /dev
1146013368 M * brc so it is just a matter of creating the line in /etc/mtab ?
1146013380 M * Bertl usually, it should look like this:
1146013405 M * Bertl /dev/hda2 / ext2 rw,usrquota,grpquota 0 0
1146013410 M * derjohn does anyone have an idea why mysql-4.1 in a guest does not like to start at guest's boot time but /etc/init.d/mysql start works fine ?
1146013426 M * Bertl derjohn: maybe ulimits?
1146013439 M * Bertl (or nice value?)
1146013450 M * derjohn nox, the server idles ... 
1146013460 M * brc It just hangs forever? I've had an issue ilke that with ircd.
1146013485 M * derjohn nope, i see it starting but when enetering its not there ...
1146013503 M * Bertl try with ssh (instead of enter)
1146013507 M * derjohn then  /etc/init.d/mysql brings it finally up
1146013510 M * Bertl then try to start it manually
1146013525 M * derjohn enter may be too fast ?
1146013534 M * Bertl no, too different :)
1146013592 M * daniel_hozac from start? it should be more similar than ssh.
1146013621 M * derjohn same game
1146013660 M * Bertl well, turn on debug info (for mysql)
1146013672 M * brc Bertl: quota: Can't open quotafile //aquota.user: Permission denied
1146013680 M * derjohn hm all mysql logs are empty
1146013691 M * brc hold
1146013700 M * Bertl brc: quotacheck?
1146013806 M * brc It is still not finding quota for the device 
1146013828 M * Bertl did the quotacheck create the aquota.user?
1146013841 M * brc I edited /etc/mtab in a way it's output would be the same as the host (for the quota partition)
1146013856 M * Bertl hmm?
1146013871 M * Bertl what was wrong with the line I gave you?
1146013871 M * brc quotaon: using //aquota.group on /dev/hda2 [/]: No such device
1146013906 M * brc forge:~# cat /proc/mounts  | head -2
1146013907 M * brc rootfs / rootfs rw 0 0
1146013910 M * brc  /dev/root / ext2 rw,nogrpid,usrquota,grpquota 0 0
1146013915 M * brc --------
1146013919 M * brc everything looks ok for me
1146013927 M * Bertl well, that's wrong in your case :)
1146013935 M * brc Except for the "no such device". :)
1146013950 M * brc it is creating /aquota.*
1146013963 M * Bertl just use the line I gave you, assuming that hda2 is the fs for the guest, and you created that device properly inside the guest
1146013966 M * brc Is it vserver specific or i am doing something wrong ?
1146013993 M * brc Bertl: just did that
1146013994 M * Bertl hmm, is that really the root filesystem you did put the guest on?
1146014016 M * brc Yes , i just have 2 partitions: hda1 (swap) and hda2(root - ext2)
1146014021 M * Bertl if so, then you have to change that soon
1146014033 M * Bertl we are not going to enable tagxid on the rootfs
1146014047 M * brc true, i forgot about that
1146014054 M * brc but i am on a virtual machine so i can create a new disk for us :)
1146014083 M * Bertl good, I'd suggest to first try with a partition mounted on /vservers/guest
1146014097 M * brc Better to create a new partition now ?
1146014110 M * Bertl if it can be done easily, yes
1146014117 M * brc ok hold.
1146014121 M * Bertl could be an additional disk too
1146014129 M * Bertl (if that is simpler)
1146014193 M * derjohn may it be that 'localhost' is not mapped during init-time of the guest ?
1146014280 M * Bertl if you use dietlibc, the resolver should use the /etc/hosts inside, no?
1146014359 M * brc Bertl: New disk created and mount as /vservers. should i set tagxid for it ?
1146014368 M * Bertl not yet
1146014398 M * Bertl copy the guest inside, and copy the device node from the host into the guest
1146014412 M * Bertl then do a similar line to the one I gave you
1146014429 M * Bertl you might want to change the ext2 to ufs though
1146014493 M * brc ok hold.
1146014615 M * brc i fucked up everything
1146014623 M * brc my HD got full and vmware corrupted the filesystem
1146014629 M * brc Of the tests
1146014658 M * brc oh it was just hdb
1146015022 M * brc Ok samething
1146015023 M * brc quotaon: using //quota.group on /dev/hdb1 [/]: No such device
1146015036 M * brc Did you say i need to change on mtab ext2 to ufs ?
1146015067 M * Bertl it won't hurt
1146015144 M * micah 50% of CPU (with 2x CPUs in the system) with a high burst rate, would be fill_rate=1, interval=2, tokens_min=0; tokens_max=4990 (giving a burst time of 5 seconds)
1146015154 M * micah or is that an unreasonable set of parameters?
1146015170 M * Bertl what did I say about the frction?
1146015175 M * Bertl *fraction
1146015191 A * micah re-reads
1146015246 M * micah ah, make the numerator and denonminator match the range 20-500
1146015292 M * brc Bertl: same problem
1146015327 M * Bertl strace -fF of the quotaon please
1146015374 M * micah Bertl: is that the numerator and denominator of the tokens_min/max?
1146015411 M * micah or the fill_rate/interval
1146015414 M * daniel_hozac micah: fill_rate/interval.
1146015455 M * Bertl didn't want to ask why 4990 is supposed to be 5 seconds on your system :)
1146015498 M * micah I was trying out the vschedcalc
1146015510 M * Bertl very interesting ...
1146015544 M * daniel_hozac shouldn't that be about 5 seconds, given HZ=1000?
1146015544 M * Bertl is your system set to 1000Hz?
1146015596 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: no, even for that it seems pretty wrong
1146015601 M * brc Bertl: http://pastebin.com/682187
1146015637 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: could you elaborate on that?
1146015657 A * micah tries to track down where I can find the hz value
1146015672 M * Bertl brc: ls -la /dev/hdb1 (inside the guest)
1146015675 M * daniel_hozac micah: CONFIG_HZ
1146015709 M * brc brw-r--r--  1 root root 3, 65 Apr 25 13:27 /dev/hdb1
1146015711 M * brc i've mknoded it
1146015726 M * Bertl okay, and what about /dev/null ?
1146015742 M * brc forge:~# ls -la /dev/null
1146015742 M * brc crw-rw-rw-  1 root root 1, 3 Aug 20  2004 /dev/null
1146015765 M * Bertl okay, that looks sane
1146015790 M * Bertl it's looking for the old quota files
1146015805 M * Bertl /quota.user
1146015808 M * brc quotaon used to say that when quota support was not enabled or fs didn't have usrquota as a option
1146015821 M * brc do you want to login so you can see ?
1146015830 M * micah daniel_hozac: in 2.6.8 I dont think you could set it, so its probably 1000
1146015855 M * Bertl brc: no, after all you have to figure that for the future too
1146015861 M * brc true
1146015868 M * brc do yo uthink it is vserver rlated?
1146015869 M * Bertl brc: first, are the tools inside the guest the same as on the host?
1146015892 M * brc Yes both of them are using debian sarge
1146015901 M * daniel_hozac /proc/sys/fs/quota?
1146015929 M * Bertl second, what happens when you do  #
1146015931 M * Bertl /sbin/quotaon /dev/hdb1
1146015934 M * Bertl on the host?
1146015959 M * brc Bertl:/vservers/forge# /sbin/quotaon /dev/hdb1
1146015959 M * brc quotaon: Cannot find quota file on /vservers [/dev/hdb1] to turn quotas on/off.
1146015959 M * brc quotaon: Cannot find quota file on /vservers [/dev/hdb1] to turn quotas on/off.
1146015998 M * micah daniel_hozac: so fill_rate=20; interval=40 would give 50% of CPU matching 20-500 range, and 0 min and 5000 max sane?
1146016012 M * Bertl brc: so, how does it work on the host?
1146016129 M * brc it was working on /
1146016132 M * brc i forgot to try on /vservers
1146016133 M * daniel_hozac micah: i guess so.
1146016137 M * brc so it is not vserver specific i will get it working
1146016189 M * brc I remounted hda2 without usrquota/grpquota and now it is working on /vservers
1146016218 M * Bertl hmm?
1146016251 M * brc On the host
1146016254 M * brc same error inside the guest
1146016258 M * Bertl sure about that?
1146016264 M * Bertl I mean that it works on the host
1146016278 M * Bertl I would assume that when you remove the usrquota/grpquota it's just ignored
1146016303 M * Bertl i.e. do you see that the quota values change on the host
1146016314 M * daniel_hozac well, he removed it from /, not on /vservers.
1146016328 M * Bertl ah, right
1146016345 M * Bertl doesn't make too much sense though, no?
1146016363 M * daniel_hozac indeed. the two should be unrelated.
1146017238 M * brc phone again
1146017245 M * brc problems with girlfriend
1146017396 M * brc Hey bertl, can we continue this tomorrow ?
1146017399 M * brc i am having some problems here
1146017400 M * Bertl sure
1146017409 M * Bertl GF has priority!
1146017413 M * brc hehe
1146017414 M * brc ok
1146017415 M * brc cya tomorrow!
1146017418 M * Bertl cya
1146017507 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: what's remaining for a 2.0.2/2.1.1 release? "just" testing?
1146017550 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: yeah, you know, those secret tests and so
1146017557 M * daniel_hozac ah, of course :)
1146017566 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: nah, seriously, I'm trying to check that we didn't miss anything
1146018090 M * Dr4g Bertl:: i won't be on IRC anymore, nice meeting you and GL with vserver
1146018097 P * Dr4g Open Source Development :: http://dynamichell.org
1146018116 M * micah poof!
1146018123 M * Bertl that was fast :)
1146018276 J * Aiken_ ~james@tooax6-049.dialup.optusnet.com.au
1146018337 M * Bertl welcome Aiken_!
1146018362 M * Aiken_ hello
1146018546 J * matt1 ~matta@c-68-32-202-140.hsd1.pa.comcast.net
1146018629 Q * Aiken Ping timeout: 480 seconds
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1146019518 J * kilgur_ user@p50811AC2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
1146019867 J * ZLinux ~ZLinux@212.118.96.241
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1146020060 M * Bertl have a good night everyone! cya tomorrow!
1146020079 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
1146021656 J * jkl eric@c-71-56-217-91.hsd1.co.comcast.net
1146025684 J * _coocoon_ ~coocoon@p54A05FAE.dip.t-dialin.net
1146026261 J * gerrit ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
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1146033959 J * kilgur user@p50811AC2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
1146035269 Q * matta Read error: Connection reset by peer
1146035703 J * ||Cobra|| ~cob@pc-csa01.science.uva.nl
1146036919 J * lilalinux ~plasma@dslb-084-059-001-025.pools.arcor-ip.net
1146038595 J * Hmmmm ~Hmmmm@221.135.51.19
1146038785 J * pagano ~pagano@lappagano.cnaf.infn.it
1146038933 N * otaku42_away otaku42
1146040434 J * pagano_ ~pagano@lappagano.cnaf.infn.it
1146040434 Q * pagano Read error: Connection reset by peer
1146041104 J * ZLinux ~ZLinux@212.118.98.95
1146042150 M * Hollow derjohn: is it really necessary that i subscribe to that yahoo thingy for linuxtag??
1146042512 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1146042516 M * Bertl morning folks!
1146042520 M * doener_ morning Bertl 
1146042575 M * doener_ Hollow: you'll continue to receive requests to join anyway ;) (at least I get them although I'm subscribed)
1146042658 M * Hollow oh.
1146042666 M * Hollow but i doubt i will subscribe to any yahoo service :P
1146042677 M * Bertl well, I already told derjohn that this was a bad idea :/
1146042690 A * Bertl is not going to subscribe either ...
1146042706 M * Hollow heh
1146044155 Q * Hmmmm Quit: Ex-Chat
1146044696 J * shedi ~siggi@tolvudeild-201.lhi.is
1146044725 M * Bertl welcome shedi!
1146044744 M * shedi why thank you kind sir
1146045887 J * coocoon3 ~coocoon@p54A07839.dip.t-dialin.net
1146045901 M * coocoon3 so jetzt müsste er wieder da sein
1146045939 M * Bertl wb coocoon3!
1146046125 Q * _coocoon_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
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1146049429 N * morrigan_oO morrigan
1146049654 J * softi42 ~softi@p549D64BE.dip.t-dialin.net
1146049981 M * Hollow Bertl: btw.. i still notice the slowdown with 2.6.16-vs2.1.x-lo0.04
1146050085 M * Bertl interesting, how do you notice/measure?
1146050100 M * Bertl and did you compare with 2.6.16-vs2.1.1-rc17 yet?
1146050311 M * Hollow well, i notice it during comilation.. the system gets quite unusable.. espeically graphcs and mouse moves
1146050317 M * Hollow and no, didn't compare it directly
1146050349 M * Hollow but will do once the compilation is finished ;)
1146050374 M * Hollow is there anything i can check before rebooting another kernel?
1146050414 M * Bertl well, I have no idea what we are looking for atm
1146050438 M * Bertl I'd expect 2.6.16-vs2.1.1 to behave similar
1146050453 M * Bertl and I'd further expect that to be identical to 2.6.16 behaviour
1146050498 M * Hollow ok, i will try with a vanilla 2.6.16 then first
1146050609 M * Hollow any special debug config in the kernel that maybe useful? i currently have DEBUG_{KERNEL,MUTEXES,BUGVERBOSE,INFO}
1146050640 M * Bertl try to use the same .config for vanilla
1146050644 M * Hollow ok
1146050660 M * Bertl the make oldconfig should remove the vserver specific entries
1146050700 J * complexmind ~mark@81.2.84.162
1146051274 M * Hollow Bertl: currently compiling vanilla and loadavg is now at 7
1146051284 M * Hollow 8 and going up..
1146051313 M * Bertl not that unusual
1146051319 M * Bertl welcome complexmind!
1146051328 M * Hollow hm.. my iboko is compiling for about 24 hours now, and loadavg is about 1.5
1146051399 M * Hollow at 11 now ;)
1146051429 J * pagano__ ~pagano@lappagano.cnaf.infn.it
1146051431 M * daniel_hozac did you do make -j? :)
1146051435 M * Hollow no
1146051466 M * Hollow but on the ibook it's -j2 :P
1146051579 Q * pagano_ Read error: Connection reset by peer
1146051905 Q * mkhl Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1146051944 Q * Hollow Remote host closed the connection
1146054051 Q * cryo Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1146054154 J * VooDooMaster icechat5@topas.informatik.uni-ulm.de
1146054339 J * cryo ~say@psoft.user.matrix.farlep.net
1146054454 J * phreak`` ~phreak``@134.68.220.30
1146054805 Q * shedi Quit: Leaving
1146054861 M * brc good morning bertl! Didnt you sleep ??
1146054897 M * Bertl well, I did sleep, but not for very long ...
1146054925 M * brc I am at work. had some "fights" on the phone yesterday
1146054929 M * brc until late
1146054932 M * brc i will got that working today.
1146054934 M * brc get
1146055311 M * Bertl np
1146056714 Q * ptl_xid Quit: 
1146056869 J * Hollow ~hollow@home.xnull.de
1146056877 M * Hollow Bertl: got it 
1146056892 M * Hollow 2.6.16.8-2.1.1-rc15 works
1146056898 M * Hollow 2.6.16.8-rc16 lags
1146056903 M * Hollow +2.1.1
1146057235 M * daniel_hozac CONFIG_VSERVER_MONITOR?
1146057274 M * Bertl hmm, could be
1146057320 M * Hollow don't have it enabled
1146057426 M * daniel_hozac that's the biggest change in the rc15-rc16 delta, IMO.
1146057624 J * chelli ~thomas@PC1.ideolabs.TGZ-Ilmenau.de
1146057640 M * Bertl welcome chelli!
1146057641 M * Hollow have to leave now, will be back later..
1146057646 M * Bertl Hollow: okay
1146057684 M * Hollow Bertl: i'll try to get a network and join in here, if you need some info
1146057743 M * Hollow if it won't work, i'll be back around 7-8pm
1146058062 J * sukria ~sukria@www.sukria.net
1146058066 M * sukria hi
1146058105 M * sukria I plan to buy an AMD 64 and would like to know if the vserver patch works under such an architecture. IIRC, it didn't in the past.
1146058174 M * dev sukria: it should work on any arch, which linux can run
1146058191 M * eyck dev: are you sure?
1146058194 M * sukria dev: 6 months ago, it diond't work on Sparc 64
1146058227 M * sukria I know that, I try to use it under Sparc  64 and came here, someon,e told me that it was knonw to fail under 64 bits arches...
1146058296 M * coocoon3 i have patched  2.6.17-rc1-vs2.1.1-rc16-default and have a amd64 
1146058303 M * coocoon3 +n
1146058312 M * dev eyck: if it doesn't, it is a mater of a machine (hardware) and 1 programmer-day. at least, this is true for OpenVZ. templates are different story, but also can be quickly created
1146058329 M * Bertl sukria: sounds strange, it runs fine on all 'known' 64 bit archs
1146058359 M * sukria coocoon3: ok, so I can safely buy an AMD 64
1146058364 M * Bertl (this includes s390x, sparc64, x86_64, and other ...)
1146058375 M * dev sukria: at least you can run 32bit os on amd64 :))))))
1146058382 M * coocoon3 sukria: that is u r decision
1146058398 M * sukria ok
1146058399 M * eyck dev: because it looks to me like only i386,  s390 sparc sparc64 x86_64 ia64 arm
1146058402 M * eyck are supported
1146058403 M * sukria thanks for the notes
1146058428 M * phreak`` sukria: it pretty much works on sparc64 (at least for me)
1146058434 M * eyck hmm, and mips
1146058447 M * Hollow and ppc works too ;)
1146058453 M * phreak`` heh :P
1146058455 Q * pagano__ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1146058462 M * eyck hmm, and ppc
1146058623 M * Bertl you forgot ppc64 and alpha, as well as hppa64
1146058669 M * sukria ok, so let's go :)
1146058672 M * sukria thanks
1146058717 A * ray6 had vserver running on fc5_64 inside 64bit xen on an amd64 :)
1146059011 M * phreak`` hrm, daniel_hozac how save are those (cleanup) patches ? :)
1146060093 M * daniel_hozac phreak``: hmm? which cleanup patches?
1146060147 M * phreak`` daniel_hozac: http://daniel.hozac.com/vserver/delta-vs_cvirt-clean01.diff http://daniel.hozac.com/vserver/delta-vs_pid-clean03.diff and http://daniel.hozac.com/vserver/delta-nopage-clean01.diff
1146060194 M * daniel_hozac vs_cvirt/vs_pid just remove useless includes.
1146060225 M * daniel_hozac nopage reverts the include/asm-i386/page.h and related changes.
1146060266 M * phreak`` so just cleanup changes ?
1146060275 M * phreak`` (as the name sais :P)
1146060285 M * phreak`` *says
1146060293 M * daniel_hozac yep, that's the idea.
1146060485 J * matta ~matta@c-68-32-239-173.hsd1.pa.comcast.net
1146060683 M * Bertl welcome matta!
1146061586 J * pagano__ ~pagano@lappagano.cnaf.infn.it
1146061907 M * matta hi!
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1146063964 J * Viper0482 ~Viper0482@p54976696.dip.t-dialin.net
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1146064766 J * _coocoon_ ~coocoon@p54A07839.dip.t-dialin.net
1146064771 Q * kilgur Read error: Connection reset by peer
1146067487 M * Bertl Hollow: ping?
1146067658 Q * gdm Quit: leaving
1146067944 Q * ||Cobra|| Remote host closed the connection
1146068207 J * bonbons ~bonbons@83.222.37.206
1146068367 M * Bertl welcome bonbons!
1146068431 N * otaku42 otaku42_away
1146069590 J * liquid3649_ ~Viper0482@p54975DD4.dip.t-dialin.net
1146069815 Q * Viper0482 Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1146069830 J * shedi ~siggi@inferno.lhi.is
1146069990 Q * _coocoon_ Quit: KVIrc 3.2.0 'Realia'
1146070176 Q * mire Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1146070334 Q * pollux Remote host closed the connection
1146070342 J * pollux foobar@image4.cpe.fr
1146070720 J * mire ~mire@237-167-222-85.COOL.ADSL.VLine.verat.net
1146071806 Q * lilalinux Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1146072384 J * lilalinux ~plasma@dslb-084-058-219-087.pools.arcor-ip.net
1146075460 M * matta wb Bertl
1146075644 Q * liquid3649_ Remote host closed the connection
1146075891 M * Bertl matta: was I away?
1146075924 Q * complexmind Remote host closed the connection
1146076657 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: 509{1,2}_cross.diff uploaded
1146076685 M * Bertl I'm off for now .. but will be back later ...
1146076701 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
1146077070 M * daniel_hozac only differences in the sparse compile.
1146077076 J * _coocoon_ ~coocoon@p54A06745.dip.t-dialin.net
1146077731 J * gdm ~gdm@64.62.195.81
1146078690 Q * _coocoon_ Quit: KVIrc 3.2.0 'Realia'
1146079037 Q * mire Remote host closed the connection
1146079136 J * mire ~mire@237-167-222-85.COOL.ADSL.VLine.verat.net
1146079554 J * Aiken ~james@tooax6-098.dialup.optusnet.com.au
1146079966 J * _coocoon_ ~coocoon@p54A06745.dip.t-dialin.net
1146080187 Q * mire Quit: Leaving
1146080243 J * mire ~mire@237-167-222-85.COOL.ADSL.VLine.verat.net
1146080477 J * lilalinux_ ~plasma@h1-gw.of.net-lab.net
1146080561 Q * lilalinux Read error: Connection reset by peer
1146080804 J * helpless ~weechat@p549859EF.dip.t-dialin.net
1146080821 M * helpless hello all
1146080839 M * helpless i am new to vservers and i have a question regarding the network interfaces
1146080843 Q * mnemoc Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1146080867 M * helpless afaik eth0 is the interface for all servers 
1146080871 M * helpless is that true?
1146080885 M * helpless eth0:vsxxx is my interface
1146080924 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1146080940 M * Hollow Bertl: semi pong (~15 mins)
1146080943 M * Bertl helpless: no, Linux-VServer does not use interfaces at all
1146080962 M * helpless Linux-VServer uses the lo interface?
1146080986 M * Bertl Hollow: ah, good, I have three patches for you to try, but I'd ask you to test them with a kernel build -j 99 which is timed, like the performance tests
1146080999 M * Bertl helpless: no, Linux-VServer uses IP addresses
1146081008 M * Bertl helpless: they can be bound to any interface
1146081028 J * mnemoc ~amery@216.241.24.10
1146081078 M * helpless but there is an interface where ich cann see all the traffic
1146081088 M * helpless from within the vserver
1146081101 M * helpless not dump it onlx see it in the couter
1146081114 M * helpless not dump it only see it in the counter
1146081137 M * Bertl well, there is socket accounting, which includes the network traffic
1146081168 M * Bertl and you can also do traffic accounting with iptables
1146081230 M * Bertl Hollow: when do you think you'll have time for testing?
1146081322 M * helpless Bertl: thx
1146081424 M * Bertl okay, off again .. back later ...
1146081431 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
1146081460 M * Hollow Bertl_oO: guess i will have the full results tomorrow.. i'm so tired, learned math the whole afternoon
1146081474 Q * _coocoon_ Quit: KVIrc 3.2.0 'Realia'
1146082164 P * helpless WeeChat 0.1.9-cvs
1146082261 Q * lilalinux_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1146082282 J * lilalinux_ ~plasma@dslb-084-058-219-087.pools.arcor-ip.net
1146083230 J * lilalinux__ ~plasma@h1-gw.of.net-lab.net
1146083671 Q * lilalinux_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1146083792 J * aphetadus ~aphetadus@quasar.las.ic.unicamp.br
1146084151 Q * lilalinux__ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1146084172 J * lilalinux__ ~plasma@dslb-084-058-219-087.pools.arcor-ip.net
1146084346 P * aphetadus 
1146084852 J * lilalinux_ ~plasma@h1-gw.of.net-lab.net
1146084865 J * mkhl ~mkhl@200-148-40-197.dsl.telesp.net.br
1146085290 Q * lilalinux__ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1146085346 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving
1146085806 Q * phreak`` Quit: going to bed
1146086136 Q * lilalinux_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1146086157 J * lilalinux_ ~plasma@dslb-084-058-219-087.pools.arcor-ip.net
1146086243 Q * lilalinux_ Remote host closed the connection
1146086928 J * _coocoon_ ~coocoon@p54A054BD.dip.t-dialin.net
1146088289 Q * weasel Read error: Operation timed out
1146088386 Q * matta oxygen.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1146088386 Q * nox oxygen.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1146088386 Q * [PUPPETS]Gonzo oxygen.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1146088386 Q * SiD3WiNDR oxygen.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1146088386 Q * rmoriz oxygen.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1146088386 Q * cohan oxygen.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1146088386 Q * brc oxygen.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1146088386 Q * virtuoso oxygen.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1146088386 Q * ddlp oxygen.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1146088386 Q * daniel_hozac oxygen.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1146088386 Q * Wenix oxygen.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1146088386 Q * kilian oxygen.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1146088386 Q * locksy oxygen.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1146088386 Q * Adrinael oxygen.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1146088386 Q * h01ger oxygen.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1146088386 Q * sannes oxygen.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1146088386 Q * gerrit oxygen.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1146088386 Q * derjohn oxygen.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1146088386 Q * sladen oxygen.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1146088386 Q * mountie oxygen.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1146088386 Q * click_ oxygen.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1146088386 Q * redtux oxygen.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1146088386 Q * Hunger oxygen.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1146088386 Q * Wonka oxygen.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1146088386 Q * cemil oxygen.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1146088386 Q * Vudumen oxygen.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1146088388 Q * samuel_ oxygen.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1146088388 Q * Skram oxygen.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1146088388 Q * FireEgl oxygen.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1146088388 Q * mkhl oxygen.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1146088388 Q * mire oxygen.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1146088388 Q * pollux oxygen.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1146088388 Q * Hollow oxygen.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1146088388 Q * cryo oxygen.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1146088388 Q * ZLinux oxygen.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1146088388 Q * doener_ oxygen.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1146088388 Q * ntrs oxygen.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1146088388 Q * harry oxygen.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1146088388 Q * cehteh oxygen.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1146088388 Q * teukka oxygen.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1146088388 Q * Smutje oxygen.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1146088388 Q * insomniac oxygen.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1146088388 Q * waldi oxygen.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1146088388 Q * micah oxygen.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1146088388 Q * SNy oxygen.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1146088388 Q * _coocoon_ oxygen.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1146088388 Q * mnemoc oxygen.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1146088388 Q * Aiken oxygen.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1146088388 Q * gdm oxygen.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1146088388 Q * shedi oxygen.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1146088388 Q * VooDooMaster oxygen.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1146088388 Q * softi42 oxygen.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1146088388 Q * eyck oxygen.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1146088388 Q * Hondo oxygen.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1146088388 Q * Loki|muh oxygen.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1146088388 Q * bogus oxygen.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1146088388 Q * ag- oxygen.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1146088388 Q * nebuchadnezzar oxygen.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1146088388 Q * mef oxygen.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1146088388 Q * dhansen oxygen.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1146088388 Q * k3mper oxygen.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1146088388 Q * thorkild oxygen.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1146088388 Q * otaku42_away oxygen.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1146088388 Q * bragon oxygen.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1146088388 Q * alexx|ikse oxygen.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1146088391 Q * Snow-Man oxygen.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1146088422 J * id23 ~id@p54A03714.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
1146088422 J * mkhl ~mkhl@200-148-40-197.dsl.telesp.net.br
1146088422 J * mnemoc ~amery@216.241.24.10
1146088422 J * mire ~mire@237-167-222-85.COOL.ADSL.VLine.verat.net
1146088422 J * Aiken ~james@tooax6-098.dialup.optusnet.com.au
1146088422 J * gdm ~gdm@64.62.195.81
1146088422 J * pollux foobar@image4.cpe.fr
1146088422 J * shedi ~siggi@inferno.lhi.is
1146088422 J * matta ~matta@c-68-32-239-173.hsd1.pa.comcast.net
1146088422 J * Hollow ~hollow@home.xnull.de
1146088422 J * cryo ~say@psoft.user.matrix.farlep.net
1146088422 J * VooDooMaster icechat5@topas.informatik.uni-ulm.de
1146088422 J * softi42 ~softi@p549D64BE.dip.t-dialin.net
1146088422 J * ZLinux ~ZLinux@212.118.98.95
1146088422 J * gerrit ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1146088422 J * doener_ ~doener@i5387C27E.versanet.de
1146088422 J * ntrs ~ntrs@68-188-51-87.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com
1146088422 J * eyck eyck@ghost.anime.pl
1146088423 J * derjohn ~derjohn@80.69.37.19
1146088423 J * Hondo ~Hossa@212.110.98.7
1146088423 J * sladen paul@starsky.19inch.net
1146088423 J * Loki|muh loki@satanix.de
1146088423 J * FireEgl Atlantica@2001:5c0:84dc::
1146088423 J * bogus ~bogusano@fengor.net
1146088423 J * Adrinael adrinael@hoasb-ff09dd00-79.dhcp.inet.fi
1146088423 J * nox ~nox@nox.user.oftc.net
1146088423 J * [PUPPETS]Gonzo gonzo@langweiligneutral.deswahnsinns.de
1146088423 J * SiD3WiNDR luser@bastard-operator.from-hell.be
1146088423 J * rmoriz ~roland@195.68.242.245
1146088423 J * kilian kk@projects.verfaction.de
1146088423 J * cohan ~cohan@koniczek.de
1146088423 J * brc bruce@20132181051.user.veloxzone.com.br
1146088423 J * sannes ~ace@simula-084.simula.no
1146088423 J * locksy ~locksy@mrtg.sisgroup.com.au
1146088423 J * h01ger ~holger@socket.layer-acht.org
1146088423 J * virtuoso ~s0t0na@80.253.205.251
1146088423 J * ddlp ~ddlp@sarayi.kariva.org
1146088424 J * daniel_hozac ~daniel@c-2d1472d5.010-230-73746f22.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se
1146088424 J * Wenix ~wenix@81.7.189.11
1146088424 J * mountie ~mountie@CPEdeaddeaddead-CM000a739acaa4.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com
1146088424 J * ag- ag@caladan.roxor.cx
1146088424 J * harry ~harry@d54C2508C.access.telenet.be
1146088424 J * click_ click@ti511110a080-3573.bb.online.no
1146088424 J * mef ~mef@targe.CS.Princeton.EDU
1146088424 J * nebuchadnezzar ~nebu@zion.asgardr.info
1146088424 J * redtux ~redtux@pc199.pub.univie.ac.at
1146088424 J * cehteh foobar@cehteh.homeunix.org
1146088424 J * dhansen ~dave@sprucegoose.sr71.net
1146088424 J * teukka ~tmatilai@backport.ri.fi
1146088424 J * k3mper ~maio@mail.progamers.cz
1146088424 J * thorkild ~Hiya@stray.priv.no
1146088424 J * otaku42_away ~otaku42@legolas.otaku42.de
1146088424 J * Smutje ~Smutje@xdsl-87-78-98-134.netcologne.de
1146088424 J * insomniac ~insomniac@slackware.it
1146088424 J * bragon ~bragon@sd866.sivit.org
1146088424 J * alexx|ikse ~alexx@proxy.ikse.net
1146088424 J * waldi ~waldi@bblank.thinkmo.de
1146088424 J * SNy 884dfbacff@bmx-chemnitz.de
1146088424 J * micah ~micah@69.90.134.205
1146088424 J * Wonka produziert@chaos.in-kiel.de
1146088424 J * cemil ~cemil@defiant.wavecon.de
1146088424 J * Vudumen ~vudumen@perverz.hu
1146088424 J * samuel_ ~samuel@levinux.UQAR.UQUEBEC.CA
1146088424 J * Snow-Man ~sfrost@kenobi.snowman.net
1146088424 J * Skram ~mark@admins.sentiensystems.net
1146088424 J * Hunger Hunger.hu@Hunger.hu
1146088607 J * weasel weasel@asteria.debian.or.at
1146088991 J * _coocoon_ ~coocoon@p54A054BD.dip.t-dialin.net
1146091760 Q * _coocoon_ Quit: KVIrc 3.2.0 'Realia'
1146092424 J * cyberjockey tritech@melrose.dreamhost.com
1146092552 P * cyberjockey 
1146092812 M * brc hello
1146092813 M * brc anyone there ?
1146092831 M * brc Bertll i am trying to solve the qota issue.
1146093007 M * derjohn i am here - but I think I cannot help ypu woth quota
1146093231 M * brc Ok i need to wait for bertl , thanks :)
1146093441 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1146093449 M * Bertl evening folks!
1146093485 M * brc BERTL
1146093500 M * doener_ evening Bertl 
1146093596 M * brc For some reason quotaon is not generatin aquota.group, it is just generating quota.user. that's why we got that many errors yesterday. i am trying to find out why.
1146093601 M * brc oops. quotacheck is not generating.
1146093675 M * Bertl ah, good, thought that this mght be the case
1146093687 M * Bertl we now switch to using the 'new' quota format
1146093691 M * Bertl doener_: evening!
1146093723 M * brc Thing i got it to work.
1146093774 M * Bertl brc: lets from now one user the following option to _all_ quota commands:
1146093779 M * Bertl -Fvfsv0
1146093789 M * Bertl i.e. you create the quota files with:
1146093803 M * Bertl checkquota -Fvfsv0 -vaug
1146093809 M * Bertl you turn on quota with
1146093818 M * Bertl quotaon -Fvfsv0 -vaug
1146093821 M * Bertl etc
1146093888 M * brc ok.
1146093921 M * Bertl thing is, the quota tools, depending on the version, do 'guess' some of this stuff, which is not what we actually want
1146093939 M * brc gonna try with those options, quotacheck inside the vs generated OLD quoa files
1146093959 M * brc On the host it generated the new. Let's see with those args
1146094007 J * metronet ~opera@86.126.55.105
1146094024 M * Bertl welcome metronet!
1146094211 M * brc i am getting permission denied on quotaon (inside vserver)..
1146094226 M * brc hrm i think i am without the delta patch (i rebooted a lot) . does this tests needs to be done with delta patch ?
1146094276 M * brc Bertl: http://pastebin.com/684040
1146094396 M * Bertl well, you main issue is probably the missing quota capability inside
1146094407 M * Bertl but an EPERM is a good sign :)
1146094604 M * brc heheh
1146094608 M * brc Good. what should i do ?
1146094630 M * Bertl add the capability to the guest :)
1146094649 M * Bertl http://linux-vserver.org/Caps+and+Flags
1146094657 M * Bertl we want quota_ctl
1146094893 P * metronet 
1146095239 M * brc ok 
1146095240 M * brc hold
1146095313 M * brc Should i add it to the conf the same way i did with CAP_SYS_RESOURCE?
1146095317 M * brc (just adding it to bcapabilites)
1146095333 M * daniel_hozac no, it's a context capability, so add it to ccapabilities.
1146095409 Q * Loki|muh Read error: Connection reset by peer
1146095568 M * Bertl brc: please remind we, why do we need CAP_SYS_RESOURCE?
1146095610 M * brc I need it when i use BIND. I am using the default conf i use for everything. should i remove it ?
1146095622 M * daniel_hozac yes.
1146095640 M * Bertl brc: no, it's fine
1146095650 M * brc daniel_hozac: thnx
1146095650 M * brc ok
1146095740 J * Loki|muh loki@satanix.de
1146095889 M * brc Unknown ccap 'QUOTA_CTL'
1146095917 M * Bertl  < Bertl> we want quota_ctl
1146095938 M * brc lowletters give the same
1146095944 M * brc lowcase
1146095957 M * Bertl what tools do you use?
1146095975 M * brc              util-vserver: 0.30.204; Dec 20 2005, 16:58:50
1146095996 M * Bertl ah, let's get some tools which are not two years old :)