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1145578208 J * Hollow ~hollow@home.xnull.de
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1145578208 J * doener ~doener@i5387C14D.versanet.de
1145578208 J * shuri ~shuri@64.235.209.226
1145578208 J * phreak`` ~phreak``@134.68.220.30
1145578208 J * brc bruce@20132181051.user.veloxzone.com.br
1145578208 J * Dr4g ~Dr4g@82-40-41-94.cable.ubr06.uddi.blueyonder.co.uk
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1145578208 J * mnemoc ~amery@216.241.24.10
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1145578208 J * kir ~kir@swsoft-mipt-nat.sw.ru
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1145578208 J * BobR odie@212.16.62.52
1145578208 J * Bertl_oO herbert@212.16.62.52
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1145578208 J * daniel_hozac ~daniel@c-2d1472d5.010-230-73746f22.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se
1145578208 J * h01ger ~holger@socket.layer-acht.org
1145578208 J * otaku42 ~otaku42@legolas.otaku42.de
1145578208 J * Hunger Hunger.hu@Hunger.hu
1145578208 J * Adrinael adrinael@hoasb-ff09dd00-79.dhcp.inet.fi
1145578208 J * wibble wibble@vortex.ukshells.co.uk
1145578208 J * meebey meebey@booster.qnetp.net
1145578208 J * nox ~nox@nox.user.oftc.net
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1145578208 J * gdm ~gdm@64.62.195.81
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1145578208 J * rmoriz ~roland@195.68.242.245
1145578208 J * MrX ~urk@219.95.239.112
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1145578208 J * samuel_ ~samuel@levinux.UQAR.UQUEBEC.CA
1145578208 J * Vudumen ~vudumen@perverz.hu
1145578208 J * cemil ~cemil@defiant.wavecon.de
1145578208 J * mire ~mire@193-166-222-85.COOL.ADSL.VLine.Verat.NET
1145578208 J * phedny ~mark@volcano.p-bierman.nl
1145578208 J * Wonka produziert@chaos.in-kiel.de
1145578208 J * Skram ~mark@admins.sentiensystems.net
1145578208 J * salads ~manis@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net
1145578208 J * FireEgl Atlantica@Atlantica.Tcldrop.Org
1145578208 J * micah ~micah@69.90.134.205
1145578208 J * SNy 884dfbacff@bmx-chemnitz.de
1145578208 J * ZLinux_ ~ZLinux@212.107.127.242
1145578208 J * cryo ~say@psoft.user.matrix.farlep.net
1145578208 J * michal` ~michal@www.rsbac.org
1145578208 J * waldi ~waldi@bblank.thinkmo.de
1145578208 J * ddlp ~ddlp@sarayi.kariva.org
1145578208 J * bubulak ~bubulak@cicka.wnet.sk
1145578208 J * dhansen ~dave@sprucegoose.sr71.net
1145578208 J * yang ~yang@cpe-213-157-253-172.dynamic.amis.net
1145578208 J * k3mper ~maio@mail.progamers.cz
1145578208 J * teukka ~tmatilai@backport.ri.fi
1145578208 J * sladen paul@starsky.19inch.net
1145578208 J * jkl eric@c-67-172-156-116.hsd1.co.comcast.net
1145578208 J * redtux ~redtux@pc199.pub.univie.ac.at
1145578208 J * harry ~harry@d54C2508C.access.telenet.be
1145578208 J * alexx|ikse ~alexx@proxy.ikse.net
1145578208 J * derjohn ~derjohn@80.69.37.19
1145578208 J * bragon ~bragon@sd866.sivit.org
1145578208 J * kilgur user@p50811231.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
1145578208 J * softi42 ~softi@p549D56A6.dip.t-dialin.net
1145578208 J * ag- ag@caladan.roxor.cx
1145578208 J * trasher daniel@derichs.info
1145578208 J * Medivh ck@paradise.by.the.dashboardlight.de
1145578208 J * blackfire blackfire@dp70.internetdsl.tpnet.pl
1145578208 J * tokkee tokkee@ssh.faui2k3.org
1145578208 J * ray6 ~ray@vh5.gcsc2.ray.net
1145578208 J * lonewolff lonewolff@adleman.lonewolff.info
1145578208 J * mugwump ~samv@watts.utsl.gen.nz
1145578208 J * pusling pusling@195.215.29.124
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1145578208 J * Greek0 ~greek0@85.255.145.201
1145578208 J * mcp ~hightower@wolk-project.de
1145578208 J * nokoya young@hi-230-82.tm.net.org.my
1145578208 J * knotty ~void@fny94-1-82-67-169-3.fbx.proxad.net
1145578208 J * nebuchadnezzar ~nebu@zion.asgardr.info
1145578208 J * alamar ~alamar@sol.diddens.de
1145578208 J * anonc ~anonc@staffnet.internode.com.au
1145578208 J * mef ~mef@targe.CS.Princeton.EDU
1145578208 J * wenchien ~wenchien@221-169-69-23.adsl.static.seed.net.tw
1145578208 J * dev ~dev@swsoft-mipt-nat.sw.ru
1145578208 J * matti matti@linux.gentoo.pl
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1145578580 Q * FireEgl Quit: Bye...
1145578798 Q * shuri Quit: Quitte
1145579674 M * micah I'm having an odd problem starting a vserver
1145579692 M * micah daniel_hozac: seems related to vlogin
1145579697 M * micah vserver start gives:
1145579698 M * micah vlogin: openpty(): Permission denied
1145579740 M * micah An error occured while executing the vserver startup sequence; when there are no other messages, it is very likely that the init-script ...
1145580431 M * micah ah... my fault, the partition with the vserver was mounted with some fun options (nosuid, nodev)
1145584498 Q * Aiken Quit: Leaving
1145585920 Q * doener Quit: leaving
1145586195 J * Atrevido_ ~totex@pc-161-202-239-201.cm.vtr.net
1145586332 Q * Atrevido_ Quit: 
1145586474 J * mountie ~mountie@CPEdeaddeaddead-CM000a739acaa4.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com
1145586826 J * Aiken ~james@tooax8-235.dialup.optusnet.com.au
1145587114 Q * Aiken Quit: Leaving
1145587194 J * Aiken ~james@tooax8-235.dialup.optusnet.com.au
1145587337 J * thorkild ~Hiya@stray.priv.no
1145587495 J * kilgur_ user@p50811DCC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
1145587788 Q * softi42 Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1145587909 Q * kilgur Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1145588415 J * softi42 ~softi@p549D4B1D.dip.t-dialin.net
1145589494 M * thorkild anybody know of a good example/howto on how to make a virtual network of vservers on a machine? I'd like to give the server box one ip, and use a dummy interface to emulate a secondary nic, and then only let the vservers talk to the dummy-interface (without them really knowing about the server's interface). In a way I am trying to reduce the setup internet->firewall->test machines && more test ...
1145589500 M * thorkild ... machines into one server. I've tried to fiddle a little around with using bridges for it, but I am kinda lost now
1145589606 J * Aiken_ ~james@tooax6-143.dialup.optusnet.com.au
1145589893 Q * mnemoc Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1145589928 Q * Aiken Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1145591314 J * shedi ~siggi@cpe-24-165-167-167.midsouth.res.rr.com
1145592697 J * mnemoc ~amery@216.241.24.10
1145593569 J * FireEgl Atlantica@Atlantica.DollarDNS.Net
1145595859 P * Skram 
1145595859 J * Skram ~mark@admins.sentiensystems.net
1145599530 Q * Hollow Remote host closed the connection
1145600331 Q * phreak`` Quit: leaving
1145600365 J * phreak`` ~phreak``@134.68.220.30
1145600398 Q * mnemoc Read error: Connection reset by peer
1145600410 J * mnemoc ~amery@216.241.24.10
1145601658 Q * FireEgl Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1145601717 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1145601724 M * Bertl hmm, morning folks!
1145601743 M * phreak`` morning Bertl :)
1145601759 M * Bertl thorkild: linux-vserver networking is ip based, not interface based
1145601790 M * phreak`` hrm, Bertl :) the BME-0.06.2 is against a vanilla 2.6.15, right ?
1145601815 M * Bertl yes, I told that Hollow yesterday ...
1145601863 M * phreak`` some I'm gonna try to fix those two rejects :) ( http://dev.gentoo.org/~phreak/vserver )
1145601917 J * Hollow ~hollow@home.xnull.de
1145601945 M * Bertl phreak``: check out the BME patch from 2.1.x, it should contain the relevant fixes
1145601952 M * Hollow hm?
1145601954 M * Bertl wb Hollow!
1145601957 M * Hollow i have the 2.0.1 bme patch 
1145602064 M * Hollow http://home.xnull.de/misc/vs2.0.1-bme-0.06.2.patch
1145602706 J * _coocoon_ ~coocoon@p54A05B66.dip.t-dialin.net
1145602739 M * _coocoon_ morning
1145602956 M * Bertl good morning _coocoon_!
1145602989 M * _coocoon_ hello bertl
1145603001 M * _coocoon_ u haven't sleep till now
1145603035 M * Bertl I lost connection yesterday, so I went to bed (but didn't change the nick)
1145603047 M * _coocoon_ oh ok
1145603076 M * _coocoon_ i would be happy to solve the rsc problem so that u can start the machine if u want
1145603121 M * Bertl okay, let's dig into that, I'll get my docu .. sec
1145603229 M * _coocoon_ u use special docu or that from me
1145603237 M * Bertl both
1145603406 M * _coocoon_ bertl what is with the error in the 2.6.16 kernel which makes it possible to qattck from a virus
1145603430 M * _coocoon_ which kernel should i use with the stable linux-vserver patch
1145603465 M * Bertl 2.6.16.9 fixes that IIRC
1145603472 M * _coocoon_ ah ok
1145603476 M * Bertl the 2.6.16.8 patches should apply cleanly
1145603480 M * _coocoon_ the sparc is up
1145603482 M * Bertl (except for the Makefile version)
1145603498 M * Bertl okay, the RSC has two ports, one ethernet and one serial, right?
1145603507 M * _coocoon_ yes
1145603523 M * _coocoon_ and i have connected a terminasl to another serial
1145603525 M * Bertl the sparc itself has one ethernet and one serial too, right?
1145603561 M * _coocoon_ yes at thuis moment i have connected the normal ethernet
1145603569 M * Bertl that's fine
1145603579 M * _coocoon_ it must
1145603579 M * Bertl you have a switch or hub there, I assume, yes?
1145603582 M * _coocoon_ be
1145603596 M * _coocoon_ hm a network router
1145603599 M * _coocoon_ netgear
1145603614 M * Bertl okay, with 4 ethernet ports or so
1145603623 M * _coocoon_ yes
1145603625 M * _coocoon_ 4
1145603635 M * Bertl is it possible to connect the sparc and the RSC at once?
1145603645 M * Bertl (i.e. do you have another port there?
1145603707 M * _coocoon_ done
1145603733 M * Bertl okay, now for the serial port, do you have a null-modem cable?
1145603744 M * _coocoon_ no
1145603773 M * Bertl okay, do you know where to get one?
1145603790 M * Bertl (temporary)
1145603810 M * Bertl you could also build one yourself if you know where the hot end is on the soldering iron :)
1145603848 M * _coocoon_ i can use the one from my terminal
1145603851 M * _coocoon_ or not
1145603860 M * Bertl maybe, is it a null modem cable?
1145603870 M * Bertl (could be a straight through too)
1145603878 M * _coocoon_ oh no it is only serial
1145603916 M * Bertl hmm, do you know the pinout? i.e. what's connected where?
1145603960 M * _coocoon_ no sorry
1145603971 M * Bertl okay, np
1145603985 M * _coocoon_ do we need it
1145604014 M * Bertl I'm not sure yet, but it might be required to reach the RSC (initially)
1145604044 M * _coocoon_ ah could be
1145604065 M * _coocoon_ then if it is required i mzust buy a null modem cable
1145604110 M * Bertl well, such a cable is very handy to ahve, and you can build one yourself ...
1145604142 M * _coocoon_ bur from which cable
1145604145 M * Bertl but I will try to reach it first without ...
1145604221 M * Bertl I will port scan your private network now
1145604245 M * _coocoon_ ok
1145604287 M * Bertl okay, .1 is the netgear, .5 is probably your machine (3com nic?)
1145604298 M * _coocoon_ right
1145604301 M * Bertl .8 is the sun, is that somewhat correct?
1145604315 M * _coocoon_ right
1145604320 M * _coocoon_ exactly
1145604356 M * Bertl okay, the netgear is programmed to hand out addresses via dhcp?
1145604364 M * _coocoon_ yes
1145604406 M * Bertl good, I'll shutdown the machine now, once it is down, please power it down, and up again (i.e. remove power) but leave _both_ ethernet cables attached
1145604425 M * Bertl is that possible?
1145604461 M * Bertl (i.e. are you near the machine now :)
1145604498 M * _coocoon_ ok
1145604541 M * _coocoon_ i am next to it
1145604548 M * _coocoon_ have u send the command
1145604554 M * Bertl not yet
1145604626 M * Bertl seems I can't reach it atm ...
1145604627 M * _coocoon_ ok i see it
1145604692 M * _coocoon_ i see messages that the busses have resetted
1145604700 M * Bertl ah, okay
1145604723 M * _coocoon_ but the machine is on
1145604727 M * _coocoon_ it works
1145604736 M * _coocoon_ i heard the fan
1145604754 M * Bertl hmm, can you reach it locally?
1145604760 M * _coocoon_ no
1145604773 M * Bertl okay, np, just power it down completely
1145604780 M * _coocoon_ ok
1145604782 M * _coocoon_ have done it
1145604785 M * Bertl then power it up again
1145604792 M * _coocoon_ done
1145604795 M * _coocoon_ right now
1145604811 M * Bertl let's see maybe it requests a dhcp address (not too likely, but we can hope :)
1145604850 M * _coocoon_ it will not start directly in to boot prompt
1145604861 M * _coocoon_ now it stops in open....
1145604867 M * _coocoon_ should i boot
1145604867 M * Bertl okay
1145604880 M * Bertl you do see that on some monitor?
1145604886 M * Bertl or via the serial terminal?
1145604892 M * _coocoon_ yes have a terminal connected
1145604906 M * Bertl terminal means? serial or monitor + keyboard?
1145604909 M * _coocoon_ openboot starts at this moment
1145604922 Q * MrX Remote host closed the connection
1145604928 M * _coocoon_ serial terminal where the keyboard is attached
1145604941 M * _coocoon_ should i disconnect it maybe that is the problem
1145604947 M * Bertl okay, and you attached that to where?
1145604967 M * _coocoon_ normal serial port 
1145604998 M * Bertl okay, so it currently boots via serial console (on the machine) right?
1145605029 M * _coocoon_ hm do niot know exactly command comes that zthere is no keyboard connected and the ttya starts
1145605066 M * _coocoon_ shoukld i connect the terminal to the RSC
1145605082 M * Bertl yes, let's do that
1145605087 M * _coocoon_ ok mom
1145605100 M * Bertl try to configure it for 300 baud
1145605120 M * Bertl 7 bits, 1 stop bit, even parity
1145605125 J * ||Cobra|| ~cob@pc-csa01.science.uva.nl
1145605132 M * Bertl (a weird setting I know :)
1145605132 M * _coocoon_ hope to see something ;-)=
1145605137 M * _coocoon_ start the machine again
1145605144 M * Bertl not required
1145605155 M * _coocoon_ oh rsc alert host system has reset
1145605169 M * Bertl just press enter there a few times (once you set the serial parameters correctly)
1145605197 M * _coocoon_ wait
1145605199 M * _coocoon_ wait
1145605200 M * _coocoon_ wait
1145605211 M * _coocoon_ nothing happened
1145605244 M * Bertl but you changed the parameters to 300 baud 7 bit 1 stop and even parity?
1145605255 M * _coocoon_ where in the terminal u mean
1145605259 M * Bertl yes
1145605266 M * _coocoon_ no i must have a look
1145605269 M * _coocoon_ mom
1145605291 M * _coocoon_ when should i do that at the other serial port or right now
1145605314 M * Bertl you connect to the RSC serial port, then you change the parameters
1145605321 M * Bertl then you press enter or space a few times
1145605426 M * Bertl welcome ||Cobra||!
1145605442 M * ||Cobra|| hello Bertl 
1145605463 M * _coocoon_ i see serial baud rate is set to 9600 but how to change it
1145605467 M * phedny woei, someone from the Netherlands :)
1145605472 M * ||Cobra|| :)
1145605485 M * Bertl _coocoon_: what kind of terminal is it?
1145605493 M * _coocoon_ wyse
1145605507 M * Bertl hmm, windows machine?
1145605515 M * _coocoon_ no
1145605530 M * Bertl a real serial terminal?
1145605535 M * _coocoon_ yes 
1145605549 M * Bertl do you have PF* key?
1145605553 M * _coocoon_ ok i have it mom
1145605553 M * Bertl *keys
1145605564 M * _coocoon_ ok 300 is set
1145605577 M * Bertl okay, make sure that the 7bit 1 stop also amtches
1145605602 M * _coocoon_ i make it for bot or is th rsc serial 2
1145605613 M * Bertl and if you have hardware handshake (or rcs/cts) somewhere disable it
1145605652 M * Bertl _coocoon_: as you are changing the settings of your terminal, I don't know where you have the serial cable connected
1145605662 M * _coocoon_ i have more options for 7stop Unger. Ger
1145605665 M * _coocoon_ start
1145605680 M * _coocoon_ i change bot serials
1145605688 M * Bertl okay, even = Ger
1145605716 M * _coocoon_ is that the parity option
1145605720 M * Bertl yep
1145605780 M * _coocoon_ i also have there options S1 Emp Quit = 
1145605803 M * _coocoon_ Ser 1 Qutittungseben  Ser 1 über Quit
1145605820 M * Bertl no idea
1145605844 M * _coocoon_ empemp quit = XON-XOFF/ PC
1145605852 M * _coocoon_ DTR or beide
1145605853 M * Bertl ah, that's okay
1145605866 M * Bertl XON-XOFF not DTR or beide
1145605898 M * Bertl so we only want XON-XOFF for now (no other handshake)
1145605916 M * _coocoon_ ok quittungsebene 64 128 192
1145605925 M * Bertl doesn't matter
1145605949 M * _coocoon_ ser stop = 1 or 2
1145605952 M * Bertl 1
1145605985 M * _coocoon_ ser über quit = xon - xoff dsr beide keine
1145605998 M * Bertl choose 'keine'
1145606093 M * _coocoon_ ok now i have reset it to default ;-) in english the parity is mark right
1145606148 M * _coocoon_ ok it is set
1145606184 M * Bertl try to press enter a few times (on the terminal) and see if something answers
1145606231 M * _coocoon_ ok
1145606236 M * _coocoon_ do it
1145606260 M * _coocoon_ now there comes nothing
1145606281 M * Bertl but you are connected to the RSC not the normal serial port, right?
1145606310 M * _coocoon_ right
1145606311 M * _coocoon_ mom
1145606312 J * FireEgl Atlantica@Atlantica.Tcldrop.Org
1145606337 M * _coocoon_ mark is for the parity right
1145606338 M * Bertl wb FireEgl!
1145606397 M * Bertl _coocoon_: okay, I take it you see nothing, right?
1145606414 M * _coocoon_ i mean what stand for gerade
1145606424 M * Bertl even = gerade (parity)
1145606434 M * _coocoon_ ah ok i will set it
1145606454 M * Bertl okay, please do so :)
1145606480 M * FireEgl =)
1145606572 M * _coocoon_ hm nothing happened
1145606740 M * Bertl bad .. well, I guess we have to find a null-modem cable and connect it to the machine
1145606753 M * Bertl thing is, the ethernet is disaabled by default
1145606767 M * _coocoon_ hm it must be special cable right for the sun
1145606769 M * Bertl so the only way to reach the rsc is the serial port
1145606786 M * _coocoon_ ok i will try to vary the terminal settings
1145606807 M * Bertl as far as I know, the following are possible for that RSC
1145606818 M * Bertl 300,1200,2400,4800,9600 [300]
1145606828 M * _coocoon_ hm i have mor there
1145606831 M * Bertl 7,8 [7] bit
1145606841 M * _coocoon_ ah ok i will try
1145606842 M * Bertl even,odd,none [even]
1145606852 M * Bertl 1,2 [1] stop
1145606866 M * Bertl there is no hardware handshake or xon-xoff
1145606897 M * bragon Hello Bertl :)
1145607122 M * Hollow Bertl: are you certain yet, whether to go to linuxtag or not?
1145607197 M * Bertl Hollow: yes, we will arrive on thursday there and stay until saturday afternoon
1145607224 M * Bertl (thursday evening that is)
1145607225 M * phreak`` Hollow: well he's having a workshop / tutorial (at least after the linuxtag page) so he must be pretty sure ;)
1145607231 M * Hollow oh
1145607233 M * Hollow nice.
1145607234 M * Hollow :)
1145607251 M * Bertl hey bragon!
1145607263 M * Hollow Bertl: well, maybe i'll come on friday afternoon and stay till saturday afternoon
1145607280 M * Bertl would be nice to meet again ...
1145607301 M * Hollow yeah, and wouldn't it be nice to meet with kir and dev? they are up there too
1145607328 M * Hollow and maybe even phreak is coming :)
1145607331 M * Bertl nice, having a talk there too?
1145607345 M * Hollow no, afaik not
1145607382 M * Hollow hm
1145607387 M * Hollow it seems they have
1145607392 M * Hollow kir: you said you didn't
1145607447 M * Hollow hm.. seems like i have to skip some school to not miss your workshop ;)
1145607463 Q * softi42 Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1145607555 M * bragon :)
1145607860 M * _coocoon_ bertl: To use this method on Sun Enterprise 250 servers, you must disable PPP by using the RSC shell, RSC GUI, or the rscadm
1145607874 M * _coocoon_ could this be the problem, but the rsc is resetted
1145607906 M * Bertl could be, but according to my docu, the default disables ppp
1145607934 M * _coocoon_ ah ok so i will try to find it
1145608096 Q * Aiken_ Remote host closed the connection
1145608106 J * Aiken_ ~james@tooax6-143.dialup.optusnet.com.au
1145608200 Q * salads Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1145608213 Q * Aiken_ Quit: 
1145608818 J * Oli ~skycode@212.224.226.15
1145608831 M * Bertl welcome Oli!
1145608866 M * Oli Hi all
1145608871 J * id23 ~id@p54A02B82.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
1145608881 M * Bertl an, welcome id23!
1145608995 A * otaku42 
1145609004 M * otaku42 erm, sorry, that should have read:
1145609011 M * Bertl Hollow: do you have a little time to test another lo patch? (not ready yet, but shortly)?
1145609013 A * otaku42 waves and says "hello"
1145609015 M * otaku42 :)
1145609021 M * Hollow Bertl: sure
1145609022 M * Bertl hey otaku42! :)
1145609043 M * Bertl Hollow: okay, will be done in 30mins or so
1145609122 M * Hollow Bertl: btw, i'm not sure this is related to the lo patch or the missing gentoo patches, but i noticed a reasonable slowdown of my system when it was under load (e.g. compiling)
1145609149 M * otaku42 i'm about to make my first steps with vserver today... any hints i should be aware of in conjunction with using debian 3.1 as host (apart from the stuff in the "debian grimoire")?
1145609163 M * Bertl Hollow: what kernel and what kind of slowdown/load
1145609167 M * id23 Hi Bertl - hello #vserver
1145609188 M * Bertl otaku42: no, I think not
1145609188 M * Hollow 2.6.16 + 2.1.1_rc16 + lo0.03
1145609196 M * Hollow load = kernel compilation
1145609220 M * Hollow e.g. my mouse moves had a very high latency..
1145609222 M * Bertl inside a guest? or on the host?
1145609227 M * Hollow on the host
1145609262 M * Bertl hmm, doesn't sound vserver related, but would be interesting to try with vanilla 
1145609263 M * Hollow or my tv app only showed a static image every 2-3 secs
1145609270 M * Hollow yes, will do if persists
1145609298 M * Bertl I've observed some 'strange' latency issues recently too
1145609308 M * Bertl (with an unpatched kernel)
1145609369 M * Hollow we'll see with the next lo patch i guess :)
1145609611 M * otaku42 Bertl: ok, going to start with vserver once the debian installation is done... 
1145609659 M * Bertl if you get your packages from backports, you should be able to install a recent debian system without recompiling
1145609678 M * Bertl (recent linux-vserver that is)
1145609735 M * otaku42 Bertl: ok
1145609821 M * micah Bertl: I dont think the vserver enabled kernels have been backported yet
1145609856 M * micah looks like March 7th was the last backport
1145609868 M * _coocoon_ hbertl which docu u have for the defaults settings after a reset of  the RSC
1145609900 M * Bertl 806-3987-10 if my download log is correct
1145609930 M * Bertl Sun Remote System Control (RSC) Installation Guide
1145610066 M * Bertl micah: ah, okay, well, at least for userspace then :)
1145610151 M * micah maybe waldi will backport it soon?
1145610281 M * waldi what?
1145610367 M * kir Bertl, so you'll have a workshop at linuxtag as well as i understand. can you help me to undestand what it's like? say, will attendants have their PCs? could they be actively involved? or is it more like a presentation?
1145610393 M * Bertl it will be a mix of both
1145610432 M * Bertl kir: what will swsoft present @ lt?
1145610447 M * kir it will be a shared booth with Thomas Krenn
1145610471 J * lilalinux ~plasma@dslb-084-058-195-219.pools.arcor-ip.net
1145610478 M * Bertl ah, the one who uses VZ for high availability stuff?
1145610495 M * kir and SWsoft guys will present Virtuozzo and Plesk, while me and dev@ will show OpenVZ. the workshop will be about OpenVZ
1145610501 M * kir Bertl, yep.
1145610526 M * kir Bertl, so what I try to understand is what kind of workshop it is... can you help a bit?
1145610593 M * Bertl well, Hands-On already says it, folks will setup a vserver host and test a few things there ...
1145610609 M * Bertl will try to mix that with interesting information and recent development stuff
1145610669 M * Bertl btw, I'm glad that the OVZ workshop is not at the same time as the Linux-VServer one :)
1145610685 M * Hollow indeed, i will attend both :)
1145610698 M * Bertl that's my plan too ...
1145610758 J * jake- psybnc@murlocs.org
1145610875 M * Bertl wb jake-!
1145610905 M * Bertl kir: looking at your snapshot code right now ... basically what I expected ...
1145610927 M * Bertl kir: have you had a talk with ebiederm, in this regard?
1145610932 M * jake- hi bertl
1145611063 M * Hollow Bertl: do you stay at the gym in wiesbaden?
1145611082 M * Bertl nah, I reserved something in the Achat hotel
1145611103 M * Hollow hm, hotel will be too much for me i guess, but i'm not a fan of the gym too...
1145611104 M * Hollow ;)
1145611149 M * phreak`` hrm, if I could only confince the DB to drive over night :P (ie not having 4 hours delay in Berlin Ostbahnhof)
1145611193 M * Hollow phreak``: isn't there a cheap plane flight? to ffm? i could pick you up
1145611205 M * phreak`` hrm ..
1145611220 M * phreak`` 225 eur aren't exactly cheap
1145611224 M * Hollow hm
1145611244 M * Hollow or just a better train connection to somehwere around wiesbaden
1145611536 M * kir Bertl, by 'snapshot' you mean checkpointing? No we haven't talked with anybody regarding that, aside from the LKML announce
1145611581 M * Bertl kir: yes, okay ...
1145611660 M * phreak`` Hollow: or I'll get my lazy ass on the 4. to Munich ;)
1145611660 M * kir Bertl, basically this is dirty dirty hack as you can see
1145611672 M * Hollow lol, that would be cheaper?
1145611694 M * phreak`` nope :P but better manageable (wrt. time)
1145611722 M * Bertl kir: good that you said that :)
1145611727 M * Hollow hm, well.. we can also drive thu evening..
1145612841 M * phreak`` Bertl: btw, I finally got my ultra1 running :)
1145612875 M * phreak`` (only thing I need to do is to create a working gentoo stage3 for the sparc stuff)
1145612972 M * Bertl phreak``: great!
1145613000 M * Bertl daniel_hozac, micah: is the issue regarding all server starting up a debian or mainline one?
1145613042 M * phreak`` well it's pretty slow (in comparsion to my deskop) but its sparc (and thats nearly 10 years old)
1145613721 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: hmm, seems to be an issue with the start-vservers patch.
1145614217 M * daniel_hozac rather interesting fix though...
1145614496 M * daniel_hozac ah, i see, it just disables the fix :)
1145615115 M * Bertl Hollow: short delay on my side, testing mainline atm ..
1145615133 M * Hollow sure, np
1145615305 M * kir Bertl, basically it's not me it's Alexey Kuznetsov, the author of the code
1145615473 M * kir Bertl, still the code works fine, we are able to migrate beasts such as Oracle, Java, X Window etc.
1145615876 M * Hollow phreak``: styx is up again (if you had a screen or so..)
1145615889 Q * FireEgl Quit: Bye...
1145615897 M * phreak`` Hollow: great :) running 2.0.1-r3 ?
1145615901 M * Hollow yup
1145616258 N * BobR BobR_afk
1145616262 N * BobR_afk BobR
1145616326 M * daniel_hozac micah: http://daniel.hozac.com/vserver/util-vserver/util-vserver-0.30.210-start-vservers.patch
1145616509 M * _coocoon_ bertl: i have it but what is the login
1145616574 J * softi42 ~softi@p549D755D.dip.t-dialin.net
1145616594 M * Bertl _coocoon_: great! what was the trick?
1145616620 M * _coocoon_ hm after i pressed enter default settings of the terminal
1145616631 M * _coocoon_ baut 9600 8/none
1145616648 M * Bertl very interesting ... and you're sure you are connected to the RCS now?
1145616651 M * _coocoon_ is the right what u have looked is for pager
1145616660 M * _coocoon_ i need password
1145616672 M * _coocoon_ 300 is fopr pager settings
1145616693 M * Bertl well, the default is no username
1145616753 M * Bertl but let me see what sun tells about password recovery
1145616771 M * _coocoon_ hm ok i will eat something and then i think we will get it to work
1145616831 M * Bertl _coocoon_: do you get an RSC version?
1145616892 M * _coocoon_ bertl: hm u will also be here in one or two hours
1145616912 M * _coocoon_ it takes some times to get login again
1145616947 M * _coocoon_ but no no version has been shown
1145616972 M * Bertl okay, no probelm, take your time
1145617027 M * _coocoon_ it seeem to be that i must configure the login via unix rsc software
1145617035 M * _coocoon_ i do not hope so
1145617071 M * Bertl well, a configuration from solaris would be simple, that is true
1145617093 M * Bertl the linux version can also configure it, but only if you have access via network :/
1145618795 M * _coocoon_ bertl: i see vrsc version it is 1.14
1145618819 M * _coocoon_ -v
1145619075 M * Bertl okay, that matches my information
1145619212 Q * yzenezy Quit: Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/
1145619720 J * pagano ~pagano@lappagano.cnaf.infn.it
1145619870 M * Bertl wb pagano!
1145619881 M * pagano hi bert :)
1145619888 M * pagano and * :)
1145619956 M * pagano I'm testing vserver on a Scientific Linux distro, in the next days if u want u can add a new link in documentation for this distro
1145619967 M * pagano (very similar to centos)
1145619995 M * Bertl well, amybe you can add a paragraph on the centos page then (if some changes are required)
1145620031 M * pagano sure, there are only few differences
1145620070 M * pagano like the rpm list for minimal installation and so on...
1145620165 M * pagano I have had some warning during installation, but all seems work fine
1145620185 M * pagano hovewer when u have some time we can check togheter
1145620209 M * pagano together
1145620235 M * nebuchadnezzar arf, rc17 available...
1145620242 M * nebuchadnezzar do you need some test ?
1145620268 M * nebuchadnezzar I'll build it on my sparc soon
1145620305 M * daniel_hozac it seems sparc is very popular these days :)
1145620330 M * Bertl can't be too popular IMHO :)
1145620462 M * otaku42 question: i've read somewhere that it is the best to have distinct IPs for each vserver, otherwise it would get complicated. where can i find more information about the procedure of having several vservers sharing an IP?
1145620498 M * daniel_hozac just make sure you set nodev, and that you don't have the same services in any of the guests.
1145620508 M * Bertl otaku42: how do you intend to 'share' them?
1145620551 M * otaku42 Bertl: i'm not sure yet, i'm still in the planning phase. therefore i'd like to understand how it could be done.
1145620610 M * Bertl well, see it as a normal linux system, all you can (or cannot) do there applies
1145620748 M * otaku42 Bertl: one of the ideas i have in mind is related to using port forwarding/natting of some ports, with some vservers having "private" IPs and the host one public IP. something like that
1145620765 M * Bertl yep, that is how it is often done
1145620786 M * Bertl basically have the 'guest' sit on 192.168.x.x and S/DNAT to the public IP
1145620863 M * otaku42 Bertl: ah, ok. makes sense :)
1145620871 M * otaku42 daniel_hozac: understood
1145621102 M * otaku42 in my case the server will be hosting several distinct projects. from what i understood it would be a good idea to place each of the projects in a vserver, and keeping the host os "clean" (using it just for maintanence). is that correct?
1145621138 M * Bertl precisely
1145621216 M * otaku42 Bertl: ok, thx
1145621495 Q * id23 Quit: Leaving
1145622157 M * Bertl seems I have to eat something again ... how inconvenient :)
1145622878 M * otaku42 eating something is a good idea... it's about time over here, too
1145623647 J * FireEgl Atlantica@Atlantica.CJB.Net
1145624074 J * doener ~doener@i5387C14D.versanet.de
1145624079 M * Bertl welcome doener!
1145624104 M * doener hi!
1145624162 M * _coocoon_ bertl: found no soltuion, there is no possibuility i thought to change the password
1145624206 M * _coocoon_ is it possible to run sun applications on a unix system
1145624219 M * _coocoon_ sorry linux
1145624226 M * Bertl partially, but they won't be able to communicate with the thing
1145624266 M * Bertl is the machine booted now?
1145624287 M * _coocoon_ is starting
1145624485 M * Bertl do you have a sun keyboard for that thing?
1145624501 M * _coocoon_ it is up
1145624530 M * _coocoon_ i have a sun keyboard but there is no ps connector i have the terminal keyboard why
1145624534 M * _coocoon_ it works with that
1145624557 M * Bertl just asking, because it seems you can reset the rsc with STOP-N but that won't work over serial 
1145624587 M * _coocoon_ hm there is a problem which i had in rsc promp
1145624615 M * _coocoon_ the commands i have given in appears after switching off the machine
1145624620 M * _coocoon_ it is curious
1145624648 M * _coocoon_ i kniow that there is a command to reset it
1145624662 M * _coocoon_ but the message also was that ther the rsc connector is resetted
1145624671 M * _coocoon_ -ther
1145624727 M * _coocoon_ are u ion the machine
1145624731 M * Bertl yep
1145624736 M * _coocoon_ oh ok
1145624741 M * Bertl well, I was
1145624748 M * _coocoon_ because of i do not come from ok prompt
1145624765 M * _coocoon_ ok i restarted it
1145624849 M * _coocoon_ ok it is going up
1145624891 M * Bertl what happened to the sun keyboard for that machine?
1145624962 M * _coocoon_ i do not know i have bought it only with the terminal
1145624985 M * _coocoon_ first i only wanted to take it without the terminal
1145625006 M * _coocoon_ i have serial keyboard i think
1145625116 M * _coocoon_ but i can't find it now
1145625142 M * _coocoon_ why is it so important
1145625148 M * _coocoon_ i do not understand
1145625168 M * Bertl well, the thing is, it seems that you can reset the RSC in two ways:
1145625181 M * Bertl 1) by issuing the rcadm command from solaris
1145625184 M * _coocoon_ so als if i install sol8 and set a password, with dual boot
1145625197 M * Bertl 2) by pressing L1(stop)-N
1145625222 M * Bertl do you have a solaris isntallation cd?
1145625231 M * _coocoon_ ok i think i can do this from ok prompt i have full packet
1145625242 M * _coocoon_ but i hate sol at this moment
1145625248 M * _coocoon_ it is really new
1145625252 M * _coocoon_ for myself
1145625257 M * Bertl if so, you can install that, reset the RCS and reinstall linux
1145625272 M * _coocoon_ or trying dual boot
1145625286 M * Bertl well, I think that is really tricky
1145625298 M * _coocoon_ ok u mean if i reset the rsc we have the possibilities to login
1145625298 M * Bertl probably too tricky atm, but you can try
1145625320 M * _coocoon_ ok linux installation works fast and fine
1145625321 M * Bertl sure, with the proper setup you can remote control the entire machine
1145625335 M * Bertl you already got to the password prompt
1145625348 M * _coocoon_ so i will have a look mom
1145625349 M * Bertl this also works over network if you have configured the rcs properly
1145625371 M * Bertl of course, without the required credentials, you can do nothing ...
1145625423 M * _coocoon_ but from openboot prompt i have only the possibilities to reset it if iam connected to the rsc serial port, haven't i, or is it also possible from the normal port
1145625429 M * _coocoon_ at the ok prompt
1145625433 M * _coocoon_ to reset i mena
1145625445 M * Bertl could be, don't know, try it
1145625509 M * Bertl 'password' would change the password
1145625520 M * Bertl 'resetrsc' should reset the rsc
1145625540 M * Bertl 'useradd' adds an rsc account
1145625557 M * Bertl 'usershow' shows rsc account info
1145625608 M * _coocoon_ i restarted
1145625643 M * _coocoon_ if this doesn't work i will install sol
1145625667 M * _coocoon_ but bertl, if i set the password and reinstall debian, so the password will stay
1145625686 M * Bertl of course, the RSC is independant from the machine
1145625717 M * _coocoon_ ok so long first solaris installation of my live will forward my experience
1145625719 M * Bertl but just to make sure, you should configure the RSC under solaris in such way that it can be easily reached (via serial and network)
1145625755 M * _coocoon_ i have seen that there are documents witrh dual boot, when install linux
1145625781 Q * anonc Quit: adios
1145625793 M * Bertl well, if you want to boot solaris and/or play around, go ahead ... I have no need for the solaris part :)
1145625820 M * _coocoon_ u r right
1145625831 M * _coocoon_ i thought about if there appears problems
1145625837 M * _coocoon_ after installing linux
1145625911 M * Bertl once we can reach the RCS (and logon) we do not need anything else to change something there
1145625927 M * _coocoon_ ok right
1145626417 Q * Dr4g Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1145627652 M * ray6 ah, morning :)
1145627680 M * Bertl morning ray6!
1145628728 N * BobR BobR_afk
1145629434 Q * pagano Quit: Leaving
1145629481 M * micah daniel_hozac: I get a 404 for that start-vservers patch
1145630802 J * matta ~matta@c-68-32-239-173.hsd1.pa.comcast.net
1145631051 Q * ||Cobra|| Remote host closed the connection
1145632115 Q * sladen Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1145632127 Q * nebuchadnezzar Quit: ERC Version 5.1.2 $Revision: 1.796.2.4 $ (IRC client for Emacs)
1145632247 J * sladen paul@starsky.19inch.net
1145632298 J * Viper0482 ~Viper0482@p54974F57.dip.t-dialin.net
1145632787 J * nebuchadnezzar ~nebu@zion.asgardr.info
1145633263 M * daniel_hozac micah: hmm, works fine here.
1145633406 M * Bertl micah: here too
1145633595 M * micah hmm
1145633608 M * Bertl micah: check for line breaks in your client
1145633623 M * micah and here too :)
1145633639 M * micah I was using wget, I must have screwed up the URL
1145633704 M * _coocoon_ bertl: it will take some time because of the cd which i need wasn't in the kit i have bought :-(
1145633720 M * _coocoon_ bertl: so i must download it from sun but is no problem 
1145633754 M * Bertl ok, np
1145633913 M * _coocoon_ bertl: another question for installing the deb sparc os, have had probs to partition lvm for all hdd's which are in the system, the volume groups i have configured with debian partitioner won't be recognized, so how should i set it up to use all disks and having a lot of space on the machine
1145633922 M * _coocoon_ there are five 9,1 gb hdds
1145633925 M * _coocoon_ in there
1145633964 M * Bertl we will address that once we can handle the machine
1145633973 M * Bertl I'm pretty sure we can work something out
1145633992 M * _coocoon_ ok so i install all to one partition
1145634010 M * Bertl for now, just make it a small one so that we can copy stuff over
1145634069 M * _coocoon_ i mean for /boot /swap and  / three partitions on one hdd
1145634076 M * micah h01ger: just checking on the munin plugins, I didn't see them added, was wondering if there was a problem I missed, or you haven't gotten to it yet
1145634094 M * Bertl _coocoon_: go ahead
1145634100 M * _coocoon_ ok
1145634123 M * _coocoon_ i will be happy to get rid of this, and it will work
1145634377 N * otaku42 otaku42_away
1145635321 N * nokoya nokoyaz
1145635329 N * nokoyaz nokoya
1145635498 J * doener_ ~doener@i5387FF47.versanet.de
1145635826 M * h01ger micah, i'm drowning in work, thats all
1145635839 M * h01ger want to commit this weekend though..
1145635912 Q * doener Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1145635922 M * micah h01ger: i know the feeling, dont want to rush you, take it easy
1145636041 M * h01ger micah, thanks, i (try to) do :)
1145636338 Q * mugwump Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1145636671 M * cehteh derjohn ping
1145637265 Q * sladen Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1145637268 J * Blissex ~Blissex@82-69-39-138.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk
1145637323 Q * Blissex Remote host closed the connection
1145637336 J * Blissex ~Blissex@82-69-39-138.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk
1145637363 J * Venomous Venom-One@host195-90.pool8257.interbusiness.it
1145637426 M * Venomous hi all
1145637572 J * bonbons ~bonbons@83.222.37.206
1145637650 M * Bertl welcome Venomous!
1145637700 M * TheSeer Shutting down loopback interface:
1145637702 M * TheSeer hmmm...
1145637714 M * TheSeer vserver xxx stop  hangs there..
1145637717 M * TheSeer any ideas? :/
1145637737 M * Bertl what hangs?
1145637748 M * TheSeer the vserver xxx stop call sits there and waits
1145637756 M * Bertl it should be killed after 30 seconds or so
1145637761 M * TheSeer it just did..
1145637771 M * TheSeer i just wondered what might cause it to wait for that?
1145637782 M * Bertl probably your scripts do not terminate
1145637793 M * TheSeer hmm.. i got a list of processes
1145637805 M * TheSeer did it kill those? or do i have to kill them manually now?
1145637813 M * Bertl it killed those
1145637822 M * Bertl they stopped the guest from shutting down properly
1145637833 M * TheSeer aah
1145637834 M * TheSeer okay..
1145637948 M * Venomous Bertl
1145637950 M * Venomous hi
1145637953 M * Venomous one question
1145637982 M * Venomous for the old configuration style i have used the tool deply-vserver.sh for guest creation
1145637999 M * Venomous with the new configuration a think that i can't use that script, right?
1145638029 M * Bertl no idea, didn't even knew that script existed ...
1145638090 M * Venomous uhmm...this onehttp://debian.marlow.dk/vserver/guest/deploy-vserver.sh
1145638100 M * Venomous the page is linked on the homepage
1145638122 M * Bertl homepage being the linux-vserver wiki?
1145638161 M * Venomous here http://linux-vserver.org/
1145638179 M * Bertl okay, well, probably marlow considered it important enough to put it there
1145638188 M * Bertl but you have to ask him for updates ...
1145638209 M * Venomous ok no problem
1145638229 M * Bertl the mainline tools are util-vserver for some time now
1145638253 M * Bertl some individuals and/or distros still try to have separate install scripts (no idea why)
1145638359 M * Venomous no problem
1145638400 M * Venomous i will create a simple vserver with an already build guest
1145638867 M * Bertl should be straight forward
1145640634 M * Venomous betls
1145640636 M * Venomous ops
1145640641 M * Venomous Bertl you there?
1145640652 M * Bertl yup
1145640667 M * Bertl what's up?
1145640728 M * Venomous no nothing
1145640732 M * Venomous thanks anyway
1145640742 M * Venomous i was confused about the build of slackware
1145640766 M * Venomous but i have just created a skeleton and then moved the root slack filesystem inside the vserver dit
1145640771 M * Venomous all done
1145640780 J * sladen paul@starsky.19inch.net
1145640813 M * Bertl wb sladen!
1145641485 J * Dovecot ~mrgill@ppp-124.120.71.41.revip2.asianet.co.th
1145641490 P * Dovecot 
1145641493 Q * FireEgl Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1145641507 Q * sladen Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1145642885 Q * Blissex Remote host closed the connection
1145643399 M * Hollow Bertl: did you get to the lo patch yet?
1145643419 M * Bertl nope, sorry, still working on restructuring the network stuff
1145643460 M * Hollow ok, i'm off in about two hours, and back at around 4am, if you have something and want to wait..
1145643475 M * Bertl okay, tx for the info!
1145645665 A * waldi testbuilds 2.6.17-rc2
1145645681 M * waldi it got many interresting options
1145645855 M * Bertl yep, but it is broken somehow ...
1145645934 Q * lilalinux Remote host closed the connection
1145646007 M * waldi and fails to build
1145646009 M * waldi drivers/s390/net/qeth_main.c:8017: error: unknown field 'destructor' specified in initializer
1145647069 Q * Venomous Quit: KVIrc 3.2.0 'Realia'
1145647697 M * _coocoon_ bertl: when i got it to work so it must be possible to install via rsc linux distro right
1145647777 M * Bertl yes, should be possible, but you need a working tftp server to bootstrap from (in the same network)
1145647803 M * _coocoon_ hm if the cd is inserted
1145647815 M * _coocoon_ it must also be possible to boot it
1145647818 M * Bertl ah, well, then of course without it
1145647838 M * Bertl okay, have to leave now ... back later this evening
1145647843 M * _coocoon_ i am getting to a terminal profi after resetting 
1145647846 M * _coocoon_ ok bye
1145647864 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
1145647873 M * Bertl_oO _coocoon_: cya later and tx!
1145648285 Q * _coocoon_ Quit: KVIrc 3.2.0 'Realia'
1145648403 M * thorkild Bertl_oO: thanks for the pointer that vserver wasn't device based. It made me realise why the box I was testing on got veeery confused after a while. :)
1145648788 J * mkhl ~mkhl@200-148-41-9.dsl.telesp.net.br
1145650487 Q * Oli Quit: Oli
1145650705 J * Oli ~skycode@212.224.226.15
1145651298 Q * Oli Quit: Oli
1145651684 J * _coocoon_ ~coocoon@p54A05B66.dip.t-dialin.net
1145653376 J * virtuoso_ ~s0t0na@80.253.205.251
1145653377 Q * virtuoso Read error: Connection reset by peer
1145655929 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving
1145656179 Q * Viper0482 Remote host closed the connection
1145656971 Q * Hollow Remote host closed the connection
1145656977 J * Hollow ~hollow@home.xnull.de
1145659738 J * bonsaikitten ~pal@dslb-084-063-011-204.pools.arcor-ip.net
1145659760 M * bonsaikitten hi all
1145659772 M * bonsaikitten I've just run into a weird upgrade problem :-)
1145659785 M * bonsaikitten vservers are running, but when I try to restart I get:
1145659787 M * bonsaikitten chbind: kernel does not provide network virtualization
1145659808 M * daniel_hozac what kernel is that?
1145659815 M * doener_ did you run testme.sh?
1145659822 M * bonsaikitten 2.6.14-vs2.0.1-gentoo
1145659833 M * bonsaikitten it used to work when I booted 90 days ago
1145659836 M * bonsaikitten :-)
1145659865 M * daniel_hozac (did 2.0.1 have the legacy version?)
1145659875 M * doener_ http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/SCRIPT/testme.sh
1145659900 M * doener_ run as root and provide the output please, daniel_hozac knows a nice pastebin IIRC ;)
1145659909 M * daniel_hozac phpfi.com :)
1145659975 M * bonsaikitten http://phpfi.com/114133
1145660042 Q * matta Read error: Connection reset by peer
1145660056 M * doener_ interesting...
1145660175 M * bonsaikitten and three vservers are still running ... 
1145660205 M * daniel_hozac what does vserver-info say?
1145660246 M * doener_ grep ipv4 /proc/self/status
1145660270 M * bonsaikitten http://phpfi.com/114134
1145660280 M * bonsaikitten ipv4root: 0
1145660280 M * bonsaikitten ipv4root_bcast: 0
1145660292 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1145660296 M * daniel_hozac ah, yes, legacy version enabled. you'll have to disable that for the utils to work.
1145660298 M * Bertl back now ...
1145660320 M * bonsaikitten daniel_hozac, ok, how do I do that?
1145660328 M * daniel_hozac CONFIG_VSERVER_LEGACY_VERSION
1145660334 M * doener_ hm, how can three vservers be running then?
1145660339 M * bonsaikitten I've had this setup since November 2004, so it may be a bit rusty
1145660346 M * daniel_hozac disable it.
1145660349 J * matta ~matta@c-68-32-239-173.hsd1.pa.comcast.net
1145660354 M * bonsaikitten daniel_hozac, kernel option?
1145660354 M * doener_ wb Bertl 
1145660355 M * daniel_hozac doener_: older utils checked for a different version.
1145660358 M * daniel_hozac bonsaikitten: yes.
1145660363 M * bonsaikitten oh no :-(
1145660378 M * bonsaikitten that box is 150km away and I don't have a remote console
1145660381 M * bonsaikitten gnarf :-)
1145660388 M * Bertl hmm? why don't the tools work with legacy version?
1145660413 M * doener_ daniel_hozac: ah, misread the sentence about booting, thought the tools update happened before a recent reboot
1145660428 M * bonsaikitten could I downgrade?
1145660471 M * bonsaikitten btw, thanks for the help, you're better than most commercial support contracts I've seen :-)
1145660476 M * Bertl folks, sorry for interrupting, but where is my error in the following thought chain:
1145660497 M * Bertl - kernel legacy version depends on legacy (in kernel)
1145660509 M * Bertl - kernel legacy enabled should provide legacy interfaces
1145660523 M * Bertl - tools with legacy version should use legacy interfaces too
1145660538 M * Bertl - legacy interfaces on both sides kernel/user should work?
1145660564 M * daniel_hozac sure.
1145660633 M * daniel_hozac i'm not sure why Enrico decided to set the bar so high (0x20001). wasn't the new old networking API added a rather long time ago?
1145660674 M * Bertl well, should at least be there since 0x20000 but _how_ could that matter, btw?
1145660698 M * Bertl the legacy version should use 0x100FF
1145660710 M * Bertl (that's the whole purpose of that option)
1145660730 M * Bertl so I'd expect the tools to use a legacy api, no?
1145660742 M * daniel_hozac well, if you compile the tools with the legacy APIs, sure.
1145660772 M * Bertl ah, so we have a config problem on userspace side here (for that kernel option) okay, makes sense
1145660791 M * bonsaikitten ok, makes sense - how do I get the userspace tools configured with legacy?
1145660792 M * Bertl but that means that bonsaikitten just has to recompile with --enable-apis=NOLEGACY (confusingly)
1145660806 M * rmoriz hi
1145660808 M * bonsaikitten lol
1145660809 M * Bertl because that will enable legacy, but disable compat :)
1145660816 M * daniel_hozac other way around :)
1145660820 M * daniel_hozac legacy is the ancient APIs.
1145660830 M * daniel_hozac compat is 2.4.
1145660840 M * rmoriz i've a problem.  system looks up when strace -f'ing lighttpd inside a vserver
1145660844 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: okay, so it needs ALL then actually?
1145660865 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: no, just NOLEGACY would work.
1145660867 M * Bertl rmoriz: what's lighttpd?
1145660869 M * daniel_hozac ALL doesn't compile here.
1145660877 M * Bertl cool!
1145660879 M * rmoriz Bertl: a lighty webserver
1145660880 M * rmoriz [pid  3074] exit_group(0)               = ?
1145660881 M * rmoriz [pid  3075] open("/dev/tty", O_RDWR|O_LARGEFILE 
1145660883 M * rmoriz => dead
1145660891 M * daniel_hozac the ancient APIs seem rather broken (or dependent on some ancient gcc).
1145660895 M * Bertl rmoriz: okay, what kernel version?
1145660899 M * rmoriz 2.6.16
1145660912 M * Bertl with vs2.x.y?
1145660932 M * rmoriz need to reboot to find it out. hold on :)
1145660942 M * Bertl rmoriz: huh?
1145660957 M * rmoriz Bertl: it's a remote server and it looked up after thatr
1145660961 M * daniel_hozac rmoriz: are you sure it's dead? not just waiting for input or something?
1145660965 M * doener_ Bertl: NOLEGACY means 'compat,v11,fscompat,v13,net'... so util-vserver calls 2.6 legacy stuff 'compat' and the 2.4 stuff legacy, thus no legacy is 2.6 legacy, clear? *brain damaged now*
1145660965 M * Bertl rmoriz: ah, okay
1145660970 M * rmoriz even serial console is dead :(
1145660995 M * daniel_hozac doener_: not quite.
1145660997 M * Bertl doener_: ah I see :/
1145661193 Q * matta Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1145661346 M * rmoriz Bertl: patch-2.6.16-rc5-vs2.1.1-rc13.diff
1145661367 M * bonsaikitten yay
1145661373 M * bonsaikitten enabling the legacy stuff fixes
1145661381 M * Bertl rmoriz: hmm .. okay, could you please try 2.6.16.9 with vs2.1.1-rc17?
1145661382 M * bonsaikitten I owe you guys a beer :-)
1145661391 M * rmoriz Bertl: sure. just a second
1145661653 M * doener_ daniel_hozac: ah, right. 2.4 already had the switch... thought it was even worse^Wolder
1145661724 M * doener_ so compat is what is called legacy in the kernel and legacy is what has already been forgotten...
1145661731 M * doener_ right this time?
1145661744 M * Bertl precisely
1145661838 M * rmoriz Bertl: rc16 you mean?
1145661891 M * Bertl http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/patch-2.6.16.8-vs2.1.1-rc17.diff.bz2
1145661902 A * micah notices his head has been spinning
1145661948 M * rmoriz ah
1145661967 J * Dr4g ~Dr4g@82-40-43-58.cable.ubr06.uddi.blueyonder.co.uk
1145662201 M * Bertl rmoriz: is this on x86_64 or x86?
1145662346 M * rmoriz x86_64
1145662354 M * Bertl and the guest is x86?
1145662363 M * rmoriz yes
1145662364 A * bonsaikitten bye-byes
1145662367 P * bonsaikitten Leaving
1145662392 M * Bertl rmoriz: okay, there is a bug in mainline, don't know if it is fixed in 2.6.16.9 but we'll see
1145662549 M * rmoriz so it does not help if i use the stable vserver patches?
1145662577 M * Bertl IIRC, it doesn't even help if you use a vanilla kernel :)
1145663286 J * FireEgl Atlantica@Atlantica.Tcldrop.Org