1145059695 M * doener_ Bertl: any idea if it would be possible to virtualize the order(?) of ip addresses so that ifconfig would work as expected?
1145059727 M * Bertl well, yes, I actually did that some time ago
1145059749 M * Bertl but it somewhat breaks iproute2
1145059763 M * Bertl (which depends on the proper index)
1145059824 M * Bertl but I learned a lot since then, maybe I should retry
1145059858 M * doener_ hm, if that is done in the ioctl functions only, iproute should not be affected
1145059917 M * Bertl we could for example use the indexes of the chbind
1145059961 M * doener_ ie. that indexes into the ip address array? (I guess that is still used, right?)
1145059972 M * doener_ s/ie. that/ie. the/
1145060060 M * doener_ hm, would that work for ip addresses assigned to different interfaces? *goes checking the source*
1145061697 M * doener_ Bertl: in devinet_ioctl(), what about adding another fallback case, that just takes the first available ifa for the given in_dev, iff colon is NULL
1145061760 M * doener_ in the big if-block between the two switch-blocks that is... if ((if_dev = __in_dev_get_rtnl....
1145061765 M * Bertl go ahead, try it, let me know how it goes
1145061815 M * doener_ that sounds like "will make hell freeze over", but well, I'll try ;)
1145061853 M * Bertl no no, on the contrary sound interesting
1145062129 Q * goldnlink Read error: Connection reset by peer
1145062142 J * goldnlink ~goldnlink@cpc1-stkn1-0-0-cust866.midd.cable.ntl.com
1145063654 Q * Venomous Quit: KVIrc 3.2.0 'Realia'
1145063825 Q * mkhl Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1145064354 Q * doener_ Quit: reboot
1145065057 J * ntrs ~ntrs@68-188-51-87.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com
1145066131 J * doener ~doener@i5387DF29.versanet.de
1145066140 M * doener Bertl: works fine :)
1145066153 M * Bertl excellent! url?
1145066162 M * doener at least with one ip address, going to do some further tests
1145066185 M * Bertl yes, please also test variations like, first, second and last ip on some interface
1145066192 M * Bertl with and without alias too
1145066211 M * Bertl especially aliases are interesting
1145066266 M * doener alias: eth0 without address, eth0:foo with address
1145066296 M * doener (I decided that that would be the best solution...)
1145066306 M * Bertl yes, definitely
1145066819 M * doener http://pastebin.com/660773 -- multiple interfaces, eth1 and eth1:foo added in 'reverse' order (see 'ip' output)
1145066875 M * doener will add some minor cleanups and upload then
1145066909 M * Bertl looks good, why didn't you do that earlier? would have saved me a lot of answers :)
1145066933 M * doener heh :)
1145067089 Q * matta Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1145067217 M * doener humm... the 4.4BSD style ioctl would probably break in some strange way... like 1.2.3.4 is requested, but 4.3.2.1 is the first available and therefore returned... should try to move the whole thing into the 4.3BSD-style part.
1145067992 M * doener ok, next test round...
1145067995 Q * doener Quit: leaving
1145068270 J * doener ~doener@i5387DF29.versanet.de
1145068548 M * doener ok, seems to work as well. it's basically the same we already do in other places, do the check for each ifa, not only for the single found one. http://www.13thfloor.at/~doener/vserver/patches/diff-2.6.16.5-vs2.0.2-rc16-devinet_ioctl.diff
1145068726 M * Bertl looks good, let's put it in devel, yes?
1145068736 M * doener ok
1145068763 M * Bertl if it works fine, I have no problem with putting it into 2.0.2 too
1145068802 M * doener i just had 2.0.2 installed on this box, so I chose to use that one, as I don't expect any difference there between 2.0.x and 2.1.x
1145068810 M * Bertl neither do I
1145068836 M * Bertl btw, did you check out the multicast patch on the ML?
1145068855 M * Bertl the idea seems good to me, we should definitely investigate the options there
1145068891 M * doener no, saw them, but the last time I looked into multicast stuff, I felt lost and have not found time yet to look into it in more detail
1145069047 M * doener I'm off to bed now, good night Bertl!
1145069065 M * Bertl good night, and thanks for your time!
1145069106 M * doener my pleasure :) finally back at Linux-VServer coding (well, at least a tiny bit ;)
1145069111 Q * doener Quit: leaving
1145069138 Q * softi42 Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1145069427 M * Skram what is an alternative to wall? write?
1145069432 M * Skram mpradeep01-vs1-01 / # write sysadmin 
1145069433 M * Skram write: /dev//newroot/dev/pts/8: No such file or directory
1145069467 M * Bertl hmm, write sends to 'an user'
1145069486 M * Skram eh?
1145069490 M * Skram like pts/19?
1145069498 M * Bertl yes
1145069508 M * Skram sysadmin@mpradeep01-vs1-01 / $ write pts/19
1145069508 M * Skram write: can't find your tty's name
1145069515 M * Skram mpradeep01-vs1-01 / # write pts/19 
1145069515 M * Skram write: /dev//newroot/dev/pts/8: No such file or directory
1145069517 M * Bertl write user [ttyname]
1145069522 M * Skram oh!
1145069547 M * Skram still doesnt work
1145069559 M * Bertl but it will definitely get confused if you try to send across contexts
1145069567 M * Skram i have entered the vps
1145069584 M * Bertl why do you see /dev//newroot/dev/pts/8 ?
1145069605 M * Bertl you should probably see/have /dev/pts/8
1145069621 M * Bertl and you should check if that exists inside the guest
1145069652 M * Skram nope it doesnt
1145069668 M * Bertl which pts do exist there?
1145069671 M * Skram only 19
1145069675 M * Skram which is a user logged in
1145069681 M * Bertl try to send to that one then
1145069683 M * Skram i entered the vps via "vserver la enter"
1145069685 M * Skram i did
1145069695 M * Skram mpradeep01-vs1-01 / # write user pts/19
1145069695 M * Skram write: /dev//newroot/dev/pts/8: No such file or directory
1145069707 M * Bertl use pts/19 after the user
1145069728 M * Skram mpradeep01-vs1-01 / # write pts/19 user
1145069728 M * Skram write: /dev//newroot/dev/pts/8: No such file or directory
1145069730 M * Skram weird.
1145069733 M * Bertl no idea where your write gets that path
1145069741 M * Bertl maybe wtmp or lastlog?
1145069769 J * softi42 ~softi@p549D7BD4.dip.t-dialin.net
1145069773 M * Bertl you might try to strace -fF the write
1145070966 M * gdm Bertl: i think i'm actually making progress with this memory stuff :-)
1145070977 M * gdm Bertl: page should be finished soon
1145071031 M * Bertl yeah, saw your commits'
1145071218 M * gdm ahh, i've just posted the final version - at least for now
1145071255 M * gdm i may add some more links, but i've finished the stuff from our discussion now
1145071345 M * Bertl excellent, will read through it soon (at least tomorrow)
1145071359 M * gdm yeah, no worries, whenever :)
1145071376 M * gdm i might even have some more questions by then ;-)
1145071415 M * Bertl yes, if something is unclear somehow, please go ahead and just ask
1145072710 M * Bertl okay, I'm off to bed now ... have a noce whatever everyone and cya tomorrow!
1145072717 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
1145072821 M * gdm sleep well!
1145078997 M * Skram what is this bandmin thing I hear of?
1145080433 J * Viper0482 ~Viper0482@p549758F5.dip.t-dialin.net
1145083976 M * sizo moin
1145087052 J * bonbons ~bonbons@83.222.37.206
1145087433 Q * bonbons nobelium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net
1145087433 Q * softi42 nobelium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net
1145087433 Q * goldnlink nobelium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net
1145087433 Q * shedi nobelium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net
1145087433 Q * mcp nobelium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net
1145087433 Q * Greek0 nobelium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net
1145087433 Q * DaKoba nobelium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net
1145087433 Q * h01ger nobelium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net
1145087433 Q * gerrit nobelium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net
1145087433 Q * trasher nobelium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net
1145087433 Q * Medivh nobelium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net
1145087433 Q * blackfire nobelium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net
1145087433 Q * ray6 nobelium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net
1145087433 Q * mugwump nobelium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net
1145087433 Q * pusling nobelium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net
1145087433 Q * sizo nobelium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net
1145087433 Q * SNy nobelium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net
1145087433 Q * lonewolff nobelium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net
1145087433 Q * ag- nobelium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net
1145087433 Q * morrigan nobelium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net
1145087433 Q * tokkee nobelium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net
1145087433 Q * Bertl_zZ nobelium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net
1145087433 Q * phedny nobelium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net
1145087433 Q * virtuoso nobelium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net
1145087433 Q * blizz nobelium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net
1145087433 Q * wenchien nobelium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net
1145087433 Q * Skram nobelium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net
1145087433 Q * mire nobelium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net
1145087433 Q * samuel_ nobelium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net
1145087433 Q * Vudumen nobelium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net
1145087433 Q * cemil nobelium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net
1145087433 Q * pollux nobelium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net
1145087433 Q * michal` nobelium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net
1145087433 Q * weasel nobelium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net
1145087433 Q * ntrs nobelium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net
1145087433 Q * wibble nobelium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net
1145087433 Q * meebey nobelium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net
1145087433 Q * nox nobelium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net
1145087433 Q * [PUPPETS]Gonzo nobelium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net
1145087433 Q * Wonka nobelium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net
1145087433 Q * phreak`` nobelium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net
1145087433 Q * gdm nobelium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net
1145087433 Q * SiD3WiNDR nobelium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net
1145087433 Q * Wenix nobelium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net
1145087433 Q * rmoriz nobelium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net
1145087433 Q * kilian nobelium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net
1145087433 Q * alamar nobelium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net
1145087433 Q * Adrinael nobelium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net
1145087433 Q * Dr4g nobelium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net
1145087433 Q * Loki|muh nobelium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net
1145087433 Q * flock nobelium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net
1145087433 Q * jkl nobelium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net
1145087433 Q * teukka nobelium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net
1145087433 Q * k3mper nobelium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net
1145087433 Q * yang nobelium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net
1145087433 Q * cohan nobelium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net
1145087433 Q * click nobelium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net
1145087433 Q * bubulak nobelium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net
1145087433 Q * harry nobelium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net
1145087433 Q * redtux nobelium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net
1145087433 Q * ddlp nobelium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net
1145087433 Q * Provito nobelium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net
1145087433 Q * dhansen nobelium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net
1145087433 Q * dsoul nobelium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net
1145087433 Q * sladen nobelium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net
1145087433 Q * lilalinux_ nobelium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net
1145087433 Q * alexx|ikse nobelium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net
1145087433 Q * FireEgl nobelium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net
1145087433 Q * Cru nobelium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net
1145087433 Q * nokoya nobelium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net
1145087433 Q * BobR_oO nobelium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net
1145087433 Q * Hunger nobelium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net
1145087433 Q * Viper0482 nobelium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net
1145087433 Q * cryo nobelium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net
1145087433 Q * insomniac nobelium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net
1145087433 Q * daniel_hozac nobelium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net
1145087433 Q * derjohn nobelium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net
1145087433 Q * bragon nobelium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net
1145087433 Q * micah nobelium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net
1145087433 Q * waldi nobelium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net
1145087522 J * bonbons ~bonbons@83.222.37.206
1145087522 J * Viper0482 ~Viper0482@p549758F5.dip.t-dialin.net
1145087522 J * softi42 ~softi@p549D7BD4.dip.t-dialin.net
1145087522 J * ntrs ~ntrs@68-188-51-87.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com
1145087522 J * goldnlink ~goldnlink@cpc1-stkn1-0-0-cust866.midd.cable.ntl.com
1145087522 J * FireEgl Atlantica@Atlantica.Tcldrop.Org
1145087522 J * lilalinux_ ~plasma@dslb-084-058-204-103.pools.arcor-ip.net
1145087522 J * alexx|ikse ~alexx@proxy.ikse.net
1145087522 J * phedny ~mark@volcano.p-bierman.nl
1145087522 J * virtuoso ~s0t0na@shisha.spb.ru
1145087522 J * shedi ~siggi@dsl-220-183.hive.is
1145087522 J * mcp ~hightower@wolk-project.de
1145087522 J * Greek0 ~greek0@85.255.145.201
1145087522 J * cryo ~say@psoft.user.matrix.farlep.net
1145087522 J * insomniac ~insomniac@slackware.it
1145087522 J * blizz ~blizz@evilhackerdu.de
1145087522 J * Dr4g ~Dr4g@80-195-133-218.cable.ubr06.uddi.blueyonder.co.uk
1145087522 J * DaKoba ~Hossa@212.110.98.7
1145087522 J * h01ger ~holger@bone.digitalis.org
1145087522 J * gerrit ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1145087522 J * wenchien ~wenchien@221-169-69-23.adsl.static.seed.net.tw
1145087522 J * ag- ag@caladan.roxor.cx
1145087522 J * trasher daniel@derichs.info
1145087522 J * Medivh ck@paradise.by.the.dashboardlight.de
1145087522 J * blackfire blackfire@dp70.internetdsl.tpnet.pl
1145087522 J * tokkee tokkee@ssh.faui2k3.org
1145087522 J * Bertl_zZ herbert@212.16.62.52
1145087522 J * ray6 ~ray@vh5.gcsc2.ray.net
1145087522 J * lonewolff lonewolff@adleman.lonewolff.info
1145087522 J * mugwump ~samv@watts.utsl.gen.nz
1145087522 J * pusling pusling@195.215.29.124
1145087522 J * SNy ef32795f88@bmx-chemnitz.de
1145087522 J * sizo ~janek@sushi.huggz.com
1145087522 J * morrigan morrigan@212.16.62.52
1145087522 J * Adrinael adrinael@hoasb-ff09dd00-79.dhcp.inet.fi
1145087522 J * wibble wibble@vortex.ukshells.co.uk
1145087522 J * meebey meebey@booster.qnetp.net
1145087522 J * nox ~nox@nox.user.oftc.net
1145087522 J * [PUPPETS]Gonzo gonzo@langweiligneutral.deswahnsinns.de
1145087522 J * Wonka produziert@chaos.in-kiel.de
1145087522 J * alamar ~alamar@sol.diddens.de
1145087522 J * phreak`` ~phreak``@134.68.220.30
1145087522 J * kilian kk@projects.verfaction.de
1145087522 J * gdm ~gdm@64.62.195.81
1145087522 J * SiD3WiNDR luser@bastard-operator.from-hell.be
1145087522 J * Wenix ~wenix@81.7.189.11
1145087522 J * rmoriz ~roland@195.68.242.245
1145087522 J * waldi ~waldi@bblank.thinkmo.de
1145087522 J * daniel_hozac ~daniel@c-2d1472d5.010-230-73746f22.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se
1145087522 J * micah ~micah@69.90.134.205
1145087522 J * bragon ~bragon@sd866.sivit.org
1145087522 J * derjohn ~derjohn@80.69.37.19
1145087522 J * weasel weasel@weasel.noc.oftc.net
1145087522 J * Cru ~mindwarp@turbodiesel.e.de.wahlich.com
1145087522 J * nokoya young@hi-230-82.tm.net.org.my
1145087522 J * Hunger Hunger.hu@Hunger.hu
1145087522 J * Skram ~mark@admins.sentiensystems.net
1145087522 J * BobR_oO odie@212.16.62.52
1145087522 J * pollux foobar@image4.cpe.fr
1145087522 J * mire ~mire@111-167-222-85.COOL.ADSL.VLine.verat.net
1145087522 J * samuel_ ~samuel@levinux.UQAR.UQUEBEC.CA
1145087522 J * michal` ~michal@www.rsbac.org
1145087522 J * Vudumen ~vudumen@perverz.hu
1145087522 J * cemil ~cemil@defiant.wavecon.de
1145087522 J * Loki|muh loki@satanix.de
1145087522 J * flock ~restless@l192-117-111-12.broadband.actcom.net.il
1145087522 J * redtux ~redtux@pc199.pub.univie.ac.at
1145087522 J * jkl eric@c-67-172-156-116.hsd1.co.comcast.net
1145087522 J * sladen paul@starsky.19inch.net
1145087522 J * teukka ~tmatilai@backport.ri.fi
1145087522 J * Provito ~Provito@82-35-133-113.cable.ubr02.enfi.blueyonder.co.uk
1145087522 J * k3mper ~maio@mail.progamers.cz
1145087522 J * yang ~yang@cpe-213-157-253-172.dynamic.amis.net
1145087522 J * cohan ~cohan@koniczek.de
1145087522 J * dhansen ~dave@sprucegoose.sr71.net
1145087522 J * click click@ti511110a080-4050.bb.online.no
1145087522 J * bubulak ~bubulak@cicka.wnet.sk
1145087522 J * dsoul darksoul@vice.ii.uj.edu.pl
1145087522 J * ddlp ~ddlp@sarayi.kariva.org
1145087522 J * harry ~harry@d54C2508C.access.telenet.be
1145087534 J * liquid3649_ ~Viper0482@p54975DA3.dip.t-dialin.net
1145087856 Q * Viper0482 Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1145091265 Q * liquid3649_ Quit: bin raus, 
1145091293 J * Viper0482 ~Viper0482@p54975DA3.dip.t-dialin.net
1145094446 J * lilalinux__ ~plasma@dslb-084-058-229-024.pools.arcor-ip.net
1145094820 Q * lilalinux_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1145097381 J * id23 ~id@p54A0491F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
1145099784 Q * Viper0482 Quit: bin raus, 
1145100308 J * Viper0482 ~Viper0482@p54975DA3.dip.t-dialin.net
1145102563 J * mnemoc ~amery@200.73.54.5
1145103068 J * doener ~doener@i5387DF29.versanet.de
1145103204 M * doener morning
1145103424 J * orzel ~orzel@freehackers.org
1145103845 M * orzel chbind failed!     <- testme.sh tells me so, but i guess that's because buggy gentoo init script didn't set wht needed in /proc
1145104631 M * orzel mm, no, actually, it doesn't work even when the /proc stuff is fixed
1145104638 M * orzel chcontext is working.
1145104638 M * orzel chbind failed!
1145104638 M * orzel ipv4root is now 127.0.0.1
1145104652 M * orzel that's what the script says.... struck right on the beginning :/ 
1145104660 M * orzel if you have any advice.. i'm taking it :)
1145104934 M * phedny orzel: did you enable the "Disable legacy network" thingy in the kernel config?
1145104950 M * phedny at least that was the cause when my testme.sh failed
1145105097 M * orzel yes,i did, was in the gentoo howto
1145105102 M * orzel gonna double check, though :)
1145105228 M * orzel i got that : 
1145105230 M * orzel [*] Disable Legacy Networking Kernel API    
1145105235 M * orzel  [ ] Enable Legacy Kernel API  
1145105241 M * orzel i think it's ok  :/
1145106011 M * phedny you have enabled "Disable Legacy"
1145106011 Q * orzel Read error: Connection reset by peer
1145106088 J * orzel ~orzel@freehackers.org
1145106096 M * doener phedny: that should be fine with util-vserver 0.30.210
1145106213 M * orzel Mmh, basically everything is broken....
1145106222 M * orzel it seems gentoo's vserver integration is really lame :(
1145106360 M * doener should actually be quite good AFAIK... I've never had problems with it...
1145106385 M * doener I'm back at Debian now though, so I can't tell about the latest stuff in Gentoo
1145106455 Q * michal` Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1145106483 M * orzel current vserver is broken with latest baselayout (known bug in bugs.gentoo.org)
1145106511 M * orzel with previous baselayout, lot of stuff just doesn't work.  -> raw install, /etc/init.d/vserver start -> junk/fails.
1145106530 M * orzel following the (not very good) howto doesn't work
1145106547 M * orzel i was used to great docs with gentoo
1145106570 M * orzel pb is that my server is gentoo, i can't switch right now. And i can't put my web back until i've configured vserver
1145106608 M * orzel i 've been defaced, i'm reinstalling everything, but wont put the web site anywhere else than on a vserver.. :/
1145106699 Q * shedi Quit: Leaving
1145106716 M * doener phreak`` and Hollow are probably your best source for gentoo specific stuff here... Hollow maintains the ebuilds, dunno if phreak`` is involved, too
1145106772 M * orzel ok, great to know, thanks.
1145106805 J * michal` ~michal@www.rsbac.org
1145106888 M * doener going to get a coffee, then we can look into the chbind problem, shouldn't be gentoo specific. as a start, please provide the whole testme.sh output (pastebin)
1145106945 M * orzel that is easy 
1145108611 M * doener so? ;)
1145108690 M * orzel http://rafb.net/paste/results/usIF6443.html
1145108692 M * orzel :)
1145109117 M * daniel_hozac what does chbind --nid 42 --ip 127.0.0.1 --silent -- grep ipv4 /proc/self/status say?
1145109477 M * orzel ..nothing?
1145109485 M * orzel (seems good, no ?:)
1145109514 A * orzel had to change his mouse,.... LMB is dead. while it is sooo useful
1145109614 M * orzel on the other site, you used --silent
1145109637 M * doener that was for chbind, he was interested in the results of grep ;)
1145109662 M * daniel_hozac right, so you disabled legacy networking, and it seems testme relies on that.
1145109700 M * daniel_hozac are you sure just using vserver isn't working?
1145109755 M * orzel i've tried the command on http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/vserver-howto.xml, but it fails, dont really know
1145109760 M * orzel i think that's  gentoo specific
1145109766 M * orzel (code listing 3.1)
1145109802 M * doener how does it fail?
1145109962 M * orzel can't remember, i've rebooted twice since then. 
1145109969 M * orzel now i think i can fix something
1145110082 M * orzel now it goes beyond previous pb
1145110085 A * orzel waiting .. :)
1145110185 M * Wonka pkill -CONT orzel 
1145110191 M * Wonka *duck*
1145110274 M * orzel not sure i get this one, but probably something on the line " Wonka slaps orzel with a 10lb unix maunal" ?
1145110296 M * Wonka :)
1145110318 M * orzel hey, guess what ?
1145110325 M * orzel i think i've just installed my first vserver ;)
1145110394 M * Wonka happens...
1145110540 M * doener orzel: http://www.13thfloor.at/~doener/vserver/tools/testme-legnet.sh -- I added a fallback case for non-legacy networking
1145110587 A * doener .oO( having a fallback for _non_-legacy ... wtf did I smoke?! )
1145110928 J * Hollow ~hollow@home.xnull.de
1145110946 M * doener hi Hollow 
1145110953 M * Hollow lo
1145110963 M * doener how's life?
1145110967 M * Hollow hm.. power outage during the night as it seems
1145110973 M * Hollow well, good so far :)
1145110997 M * doener we have ifconfig virtualization :)
1145111010 M * Hollow hm :)
1145111041 M * orzel d--------- 4 root root 184 Apr 15 16:23 . <- wahou, the vserver vdir is .. closed :)
1145111073 M * doener it was actually really straight forward... I guess it was just a misunderstanding of the interface labels that we had
1145111132 M * doener the additional addresses were not nameless but all had the same label, eg. eth0. we just had to skip the non-available ones.
1145111178 M * Hollow patch?
1145111195 M * doener if you strace ifconfig in a vserver, you should even see that the SIOCGIFCONF ioctl already returns the vserver's ip address ;)
1145111257 M * doener http://www.13thfloor.at/~doener/vserver/patches/diff-2.6.16.5-vs2.0.2-rc16-devinet_ioctl.diff
1145111400 M * Hollow hm.. 
1145111422 M * Hollow and what does it fix?
1145111451 M * doener http://pastebin.com/660773
1145111522 M * Hollow *shrug*
1145111606 M * doener you probably didn't have to explain why ifconfig didn't work often enough :p
1145111755 M * doener fix in terms of kernel behaviour changes: earlier we just checked if the first found ifa was available in the current context, now we search for the first one that is available
1145112042 M * Hollow mhm
1145112059 M * Hollow i thought we had network virtualization..
1145112136 M * orzel well. i've created a template, installed a vmserver from this template, started it and i'm even connected to it.
1145112139 M * doener sure, but that part was broken and caused ifconfig to break
1145112169 M * orzel now, i don't seem to have network enable, even though there was some --interface option
1145112191 M * doener orzel: you checked with ifconfig?
1145112228 M * Hollow i use iproute2 all the time :)
1145112229 M * orzel yes, host or guess ? i expected to have the given ip on host, and some eth0:* on host
1145112239 M * doener Hollow: see, that's what the fix is about ;)
1145112262 M * orzel oh, actually i do have network, without ifconfig telling so
1145112263 M * orzel funny
1145112292 M * doener http://linux-vserver.org/Linux-Vserver+FAQ - I7
1145112860 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1145112866 M * Bertl morning folks!
1145113093 M * derjohn Bertl, moin :) The Linuxtag people want a project logo from us :) what will we give them? Some interims logo? or a blank SVG ?
1145113123 M * Bertl I'd opt for one of the logo suggestions
1145113130 M * doener morning Bertl 
1145113180 M * Bertl wfk, brb
1145113183 M * Bertl *afk
1145113286 M * mnemoc i like this one: http://lectures.decky.cz/vserver/logo.gif
1145113383 M * orzel sight, no ipv6 :(
1145113413 M * orzel i imagined port forwarding in ipv4, and a great proper own ipv6 for the vserver 
1145113628 M * Bertl back
1145113637 M * Bertl orzel: we will get ther pretty soon I guess
1145113700 M * orzel great :)
1145113725 J * mkhl ~mkhl@200-148-41-69.dsl.telesp.net.br
1145113739 M * Bertl you might want to make sure that you can help testing once we are there
1145113789 M * Bertl mnemoc: I'd prefer something with the text Linux-VServer on it
1145113804 M * Bertl (for now)
1145113852 M * orzel Bertl:  does that mean coming here from time to time ? sure:)
1145113865 M * orzel but subscribing to yet another mailing list, i dont think i will
1145113875 M * Bertl yes, that or leave some contact where we can reach you
1145113945 M * Bertl as I see it, the next few steps will be: 1) a 2.0.2 and 2.1.1 release, 2) per context quota, 3) ipv6 in current networking mode, 4) ngnet
1145114052 M * Bertl doener: hmm, we don't show any IPs in non-legacy mode (in /proc/self/status?)
1145114063 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: no.
1145114080 M * Bertl hmm, and I assume we do not show a network context either
1145114083 A * Wonka wants an own lo for each vserver...
1145114088 M * doener indeed
1145114088 M * Wonka that would mean ngnet, would it?
1145114178 M * Bertl well, you might get it before ngnet, I had some very successful tests which show that we can do lo isolation without the full ngnet stuff
1145114247 M * Wonka nice one
1145114419 Q * doener Quit: leaving
1145114437 J * doener ~doener@i5387DF29.versanet.de
1145115621 Q * id23 Quit: Leaving
1145116042 J * insomnia1 ~insomniac@slackware.it
1145116042 Q * insomniac Read error: Connection reset by peer
1145116395 Q * insomnia1 Read error: Connection reset by peer
1145116666 J * insomniac ~insomniac@slackware.it
1145117088 J * doener_ ~doener@i5387E7B1.versanet.de
1145117220 M * Bertl okay, off for dinner now, back later ...
1145117273 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
1145117490 Q * doener Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1145117703 Q * mnemoc Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1145117922 M * micah doener_: hey cool!
1145117971 M * ray6 evening bertl :)
1145118211 J * mnemoc ~amery@200.73.54.5
1145118986 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1145118988 M * Bertl back now
1145118993 M * Bertl evening ray6!
1145119738 M * derjohn mnemoc, i like that too. is it available as vector format?
1145119777 M * derjohn Bertl, what do you think 'bout http://lectures.decky.cz/vserver/logo.gif ?
1145119804 M * Bertl nice, but as I said, I'd prefer something with the actual 'Linux-VServer' words on it
1145119877 M * Bertl and this was my last suggestion for a logo (btw)
1145119885 M * Bertl http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/LOGO/virtux_01.png
1145119901 M * derjohn Bertl, sounds like you dont want to rename it to linux security contexts :) well, as you are the master liberian for the code, send me a link of a logo you like. If find a better logo we can change anyway later ... actually you dont have to marry the logo ;)
1145119906 M * derjohn k
1145119916 M * Bertl (just a quick and dirty sketch)
1145119932 M * derjohn doenst matter ;() is it from you?
1145119955 M * Bertl yes, but I consider it not suitable for public use
1145119977 M * derjohn if we do net have it as vector format , we need at least 1000px width ...
1145119989 M * derjohn and maybe a transparent background
1145120016 M * Bertl then I'd suggest to take one of the font based logos, as they are available in vector format
1145120016 J * matta ~matta@c-69-253-223-148.hsd1.pa.comcast.net
1145120038 M * derjohn and: why not for public use? do you know the very first google logo = :)
1145120062 M * Bertl yeah, well, as I said, it was a sketch of an idea ...
1145120099 M * derjohn Bertl, there is a German proverb: "Nichts haelt besser als ein Provisorium" :)
1145120116 M * Bertl yeah, I know and always fear that one :)
1145120121 M * derjohn But you may send me a link to text based ones.
1145120179 M * derjohn (besides that we say, if an Austrian makes carrer as politician in foreign countries, shil willl happen ;))
1145120208 M * Bertl http://www.virtualinfrastructure.nl/personal/vserver/index.htm
1145120232 M * derjohn Bertl, which ones is your favorite?
1145120279 M * Bertl I think numer 7, but let me check that once again
1145120279 M * derjohn green or blue?
1145120308 M * derjohn I expected that you go for green :) [/me thinks of the flower page]
1145120318 M * derjohn no. 7 is not one from you
1145120336 M * Bertl so?
1145120377 M * derjohn Bodo Eggert ? We need the image source ... its only 500px 
1145120378 M * Bertl and yes, green
1145120380 M * derjohn :)
1145120402 M * Bertl contact him, should be scaleable format
1145120428 M * derjohn and the V is very fine cutted there. Do I get tis e-mail addy from the ML archives?
1145120469 M * derjohn ah yes
1145120482 M * derjohn found. hope he's not on easter holiday.
1145120495 M * Bertl yes, you might even find a link to some vector version
1145120520 M * derjohn would you mind to put the logo on the wikis nameingarea? (I assume I cant wikiwrite to that ....)
1145120552 M * Bertl I would not mind once we have decided for a logo, but I mind right now :)
1145120605 M * derjohn Bertl, you could mark it as "interim logo" and set a link to the contest from there ?
1145120617 M * derjohn (would maybe attract more contestees)
1145120643 M * Bertl the problem with the contest is that it was done very half hearted
1145120656 M * Bertl i.e. not all contributions were collected there
1145120692 M * derjohn yes, they the contestees should have wikilinked their works by themself.
1145120729 M * derjohn I dont find a source to the eggert one, but to its predecessor: http://romke.net/tmp/vserver-logo/ 
1145120741 M * Bertl that is an excellent idea for the next contest
1145120775 M * derjohn At least we should keep in mind that the logo will be printed on messekatalog :)
1145120804 M * Bertl so be it ...
1145120845 M * Bertl if you can't get the source from Bodo, let me know, I can probably do it in postscript in an hour or so
1145120979 M * derjohn well, we have: http://romke.net/tmp/vserver-logo/vserver-logo.xcf
1145120994 M * derjohn this is romans version ....
1145120996 M * Bertl which is not vector either
1145121026 M * derjohn i did not look into, but gimp can do vectors, at leasr for fonts.
1145121049 M * derjohn I would guess the "V" is an path ... 
1145121600 M * derjohn Bertl, I wrote E-Mail to bodo (you in CC). If we dont hear from him till monday, you will have to program postscript3 loops (It is needed no later than Tuesday, April 18, 10:00 AM.)
1145121685 A * derjohn now *afk* for some vegetarian buger
1145121878 Q * matta Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1145122527 J * shuri ~shuri@64.235.209.226
1145122540 Q * Dr4g Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1145123215 Q * shuri Remote host closed the connection
1145123275 M * Bertl hey great, plm submissions do work again!
1145123295 M * Bertl 5091, 5092 (2.6.16-vs2*-rc16)
1145123380 M * Bertl hey great! they added arm, and gcc4.1 cross
1145123403 M * Bertl and a sparse run
1145123480 M * daniel_hozac cool!
1145125036 J * insomnia1 ~insomniac@slackware.it
1145125036 Q * insomniac Read error: Connection reset by peer
1145125559 M * nebuchadnezzar Hi, again with a network miss understanding, I have a DNSvserver, it works great
1145125605 M * nebuchadnezzar entering a vserver which do not have ip settings, I can apt-get update/upgrade on internet
1145125615 M * nebuchadnezzar but I can not dig something
1145125639 M * nebuchadnezzar is there a problem with dig ?
1145125663 M * Bertl 'do not have ip settings?'
1145125683 M * nebuchadnezzar no /etc/vservers/zenodote/interface/<number>
1145125695 M * Bertl aha, so it will default bind to 0.0.0.0
1145125722 M * Bertl and dig doesn't work?
1145125733 M * nebuchadnezzar no
1145125733 M * Bertl what does your /etc/resolv.conf contain?
1145125739 M * Bertl (inside the guest)
1145125757 M * nebuchadnezzar the public IP of the vserver DNS
1145125797 M * Bertl another vps which contains a name service, right?
1145125809 M * nebuchadnezzar right
1145125829 M * Bertl did you check the dns logs for some kind of rejects?
1145125842 M * Bertl could you try with a nameserver outside the host?
1145125852 M * Bertl (just specify it on the dig command line)
1145125953 M * nebuchadnezzar no reject from bind, nor firewall
1145125974 M * nebuchadnezzar in fact, i just wonder why apt-get update/upgrade can resolv and use network but not dig
1145125976 M * daniel_hozac is the public IP address of the DNS guest the first one assigned to it?
1145125993 M * nebuchadnezzar daniel_hozac: yes
1145125999 M * nebuchadnezzar heu
1145126001 M * nebuchadnezzar no in fact
1145126037 M * nebuchadnezzar everything seems to resolv except dig and host
1145126068 M * nebuchadnezzar it's not critical, just interessting
1145126071 M * nebuchadnezzar :-)
1145126104 M * Bertl could you provide an strace -fF of the host command and a tcpdump -vvnei lo (on the host)
1145126788 M * nebuchadnezzar http://www.asgardr.info/~nebu/vserver/dig.dump.txt <-- tcpdump printed as text
1145126797 M * nebuchadnezzar http://www.asgardr.info/~nebu/vserver/dig.strace <-- the trace
1145126838 M * nebuchadnezzar tell me if you have preference for the tcpdump output
1145126840 M * nebuchadnezzar format
1145126856 M * Bertl nah, should be fine
1145126914 M * Bertl 213.251.167.30 is the public dns ip?
1145126939 M * nebuchadnezzar yes
1145127021 M * Bertl 213.251.167.30        213.251.167.30        ICMP     Destination unreachable
1145127029 M * nebuchadnezzar yes, I see
1145127032 M * Bertl so it's sending itself a port unreachable ... strange
1145127046 M * nebuchadnezzar seems like dig do not keep the port open
1145127065 M * Bertl could it be that tcp works but udp not?
1145127104 M * nebuchadnezzar I'll show you the dump during a ping DNS lookup
1145127241 M * nebuchadnezzar http://www.asgardr.info/~nebu/vserver/ping.dump.txt 
1145127255 M * nebuchadnezzar I'm not sure it's required, just that is works
1145127298 M * nebuchadnezzar we have one udp question and one udp answer
1145127308 M * Bertl yes, same as before
1145127308 M * nebuchadnezzar no port unreachable
1145127319 M * nebuchadnezzar so I think there's a pb with dig
1145127343 M * Bertl yep, but we should make sure that linux-vserver is not causing this issue
1145127372 M * nebuchadnezzar well, dig in vserver
1145127392 Q * doener_ Quit: leaving
1145127427 M * Bertl is this on sparc?
1145127430 M * nebuchadnezzar a dig on the host can resolv 
1145127433 M * nebuchadnezzar Bertl: no
1145127436 M * nebuchadnezzar a Celeron
1145127438 M * nebuchadnezzar :-)
1145127452 M * Bertl okay, is the dig on the host different from the guest's ?
1145127478 M * nebuchadnezzar no, debian sarge
1145127500 M * Bertl so both sarge, but the vserver guest does not work
1145127514 M * Bertl could you assign one IP to that guest and retry?
1145127520 M * nebuchadnezzar maybe we should use re recompiled version
1145127530 M * nebuchadnezzar Bertl: sure
1145127548 M * Bertl could be that the 0.0.0.0 binding is not working as expected
1145127556 M * Bertl it was a hack we added some time ago
1145127565 M * Bertl btw, is this 2.0.x or 2.1.x?
1145127582 M * nebuchadnezzar 2.1.1-rc15
1145127588 M * nebuchadnezzar on a 2.6.16.2
1145127591 M * Bertl okay
1145127635 M * daniel_hozac net/ipv4/udp.c:udp_in_list isn't there a generic function for this in vs_network.h?
1145127868 M * Bertl looks like that's it :)
1145127874 M * nebuchadnezzar giving a public ip to the vserver make it works
1145127890 M * Bertl okay, let me prepare a patch, can you test that?
1145127903 M * nebuchadnezzar to kernel ?
1145127910 M * Bertl yep
1145127925 M * nebuchadnezzar I need to ask to my co-admin :-)
1145127941 M * Bertl might be a good chance to upgrade to rc16+
1145127948 M * nebuchadnezzar yes
1145127971 M * nebuchadnezzar with a 2.6.16.5
1145127976 M * Bertl yep
1145128742 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/delta-udpaddr-fix01.diff
1145128811 M * daniel_hozac looks fine.
1145129117 M * nebuchadnezzar I need some time to test
1145129520 M * Bertl np, I'm testing here too
1145129527 M * nebuchadnezzar ok
1145129578 M * nebuchadnezzar the legacy kernel api is only used for vshelper isn't it ? to shutdown the vservers
1145129607 M * Bertl well, the vshelper is in non-legacy too
1145129618 M * nebuchadnezzar ok
1145129620 M * Bertl but it behaves slightly different there
1145129634 M * nebuchadnezzar because I have some strange message shutingdown vservers
1145129643 M * Bertl a kill?
1145129685 M * nebuchadnezzar /usr/sbin/vserver: line 85: 17258 Processus arrêté      "${NICE_CMD[@]}" ${USE_VNAMESPACE:+$_VNAMESPACE --enter "$S_CONTEXT" -- } $_VCONTEXT $SILENT_OPT --migrate --chroot --xid "$S_CONTEXT" -- "${INITCMD_STOP[@]}"
1145129743 M * Bertl ah, you posted that on the ML, right?
1145129764 M * nebuchadnezzar no
1145129766 M * nebuchadnezzar :-)
1145129781 M * Bertl hmm, just recognized the 'arrêté', and thought you did that :)
1145129798 M * nebuchadnezzar :-)
1145129802 M * Bertl as I have no idea what it means :) but an educated guess ...
1145129805 M * nebuchadnezzar I should post this on the ml ?
1145129836 M * Bertl no, I think we already have one there :) and it's not really an error nor unexpected
1145129858 M * Bertl the question is more, do you get that with recent tools too?
1145129863 M * nebuchadnezzar /usr/sbin/vserver: line 85: 17620 Killed "${NICE_CMD[@]}" ... "${INITCMD_STOP[@]}"
1145129876 M * nebuchadnezzar Bertl: 0.30.210-6
1145129883 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: should this be avoided by the fixed helper handler?
1145129897 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: or is that 0.30.211 stuff?
1145129959 M * daniel_hozac i'm not sure.
1145129971 M * daniel_hozac which initstyle is that? sysv (default)?
1145129978 M * Bertl I'd assume so
1145129990 M * nebuchadnezzar default
1145130091 M * daniel_hozac so then your initscripts must be taking too long to stop services?
1145130113 M * nebuchadnezzar maybe
1145130150 M * Bertl IIRC this is caused by some 'special' service still running after the shutdown/kill
1145130159 M * Bertl e.g. minilogd or so ...
1145130169 M * daniel_hozac that should give the warning message with a process list.
1145130188 M * Bertl yeah, but it obviously doesn't in debian?
1145130217 M * daniel_hozac that error would seem to indicate that the rc script itself is taking too long and is killed by the timeouts.
1145130260 M * Bertl or, alternatively, the vshelper kicks in (reboot -f) and kills from outside?
1145130278 M * nebuchadnezzar well, I use file-rc, not plain sysvinit
1145130278 M * daniel_hozac reboot -f shouldn't be called at all.
1145130314 M * nebuchadnezzar I get a "Rebooting..." message
1145130317 M * nebuchadnezzar does it help ?
1145130337 M * daniel_hozac is your guest not cleaned up?
1145130341 M * Bertl nebuchadnezzar: try to find the script that calls reboot -f
1145130347 M * Bertl (inside the guest)
1145130352 M * Bertl and disable it for a test
1145130391 M * daniel_hozac rm -f /etc/rc[06].d/S90*
1145130420 M * Bertl hum, that sounds a little too generic to me?
1145130454 M * daniel_hozac how so? it's the halt/reboot scripts here.
1145130455 M * Bertl what if my distro has S90saveimportantinfo ?
1145130473 M * nebuchadnezzar I found the pb
1145130484 M * nebuchadnezzar it was a init.d script
1145130502 M * nebuchadnezzar my boot process was not completely clean
1145130606 M * Bertl excellent, would be great if you could follow up the ML posting from your fellow countryman
1145130630 M * nebuchadnezzar :-)
1145130637 M * nebuchadnezzar what's the thread ?
1145130679 M * Bertl let me look it up, and I can even bounce you the email
1145130705 M * nebuchadnezzar I'm on the ML
1145130717 M * nebuchadnezzar just the subject/date will suffice
1145130722 M * daniel_hozac strange error on vserver stop
1145130733 M * nebuchadnezzar ok
1145130748 M * Bertl [Vserver] strange error on vserver stop
1145130759 M * Bertl bastien CRAMATTE
1145130777 M * Bertl Sebastian
1145130785 M * nebuchadnezzar I get it
1145130906 M * nebuchadnezzar replay sent
1145130949 M * Bertl tx
1145131003 M * nebuchadnezzar is it necessary to make a vs2.1.1-rc16 against 2.6.16.5 ?
1145131007 M * nebuchadnezzar if you need one I have one
1145131033 M * Bertl well, except for the Makefile the original should apply quite fine, no?
1145131052 M * nebuchadnezzar yes, just some fuzzy line matching
1145131093 M * Bertl fuzz or offset?
1145131105 M * nebuchadnezzar offset
1145131110 M * Bertl okay, that's fine
1145131152 M * nebuchadnezzar there is a fuzz1 and a fuzz2
1145131176 M * Bertl that's bad, will look into it shortly
1145131179 M * nebuchadnezzar patching file kernel/sched.c
1145131179 M * nebuchadnezzar Hunk #2 succeeded at 239 with fuzz 2 (offset 1 line).
1145131190 M * nebuchadnezzar Hunk #23 succeeded at 6042 with fuzz 1 (offset 5 lines).
1145131194 M * nebuchadnezzar on the same file
1145131202 M * nebuchadnezzar that's all
1145131260 M * nebuchadnezzar I just move a kernel tree into a compilation dedicated vserver, from the host
1145131271 M * nebuchadnezzar I can not chown root linux/
1145131281 M * nebuchadnezzar operation not permitted
1145131287 M * nebuchadnezzar chxid pb ?
1145131309 M * Bertl could be, do you have debug enabled? if so, check the kernel log
1145131334 M * nebuchadnezzar debug is compiled, but not enabled
1145131342 M * Bertl that's sufficient
1145131359 M * Bertl you should get entries like vxW: ...
1145131364 M * nebuchadnezzar so noting in kern.log
1145131377 M * Bertl then it's not xid related
1145131392 A * nebuchadnezzar wonder if vserver debug is compiled
1145131400 M * softi42 hi - i have a small problem
1145131406 M * Bertl hey softi42!
1145131407 M * nebuchadnezzar yes it's compiled
1145131435 M * softi42 i compiled vserver utils on ubuntu
1145131471 M * Bertl nebuchadnezzar: is your filesystem mounted with tagxid at all?
1145131484 M * softi42 and after malke install and make install-distribution  there is no directory /etc/vserver
1145131506 M * softi42 must i create this directory myself?
1145131514 M * Bertl softi42: well, the default is /usr/local IIRC
1145131531 M * Bertl so what you probably want is to specify some --prefix on the configure line
1145131540 M * Bertl e.g. --prefix=
1145131545 M * nebuchadnezzar interessting, chown does not work but rm the tree works
1145131556 M * softi42 Bertl, thx - there it is
1145131586 M * Bertl nebuchadnezzar: hmm ... maybe unusual dir permissions?
1145131600 M * Bertl nebuchadnezzar: of the directory _above_ linux
1145131605 M * nebuchadnezzar no
1145131614 M * nebuchadnezzar drwxr-sr-x 
1145131614 M * Bertl is it reproduceable?
1145131618 M * softi42 will it be used wehn it is in /usr/local or must it be copied to /etc?
1145131637 M * Bertl softi42: you definitely do not want to 'copy' it
1145131647 M * Bertl softi42: because that will break almost everything
1145131672 M * Bertl softi42: probably the best thing would be to 'make uninstall' reconfigure with --prefix= and isntall again
1145131701 M * Bertl or add the /usr/local pathes to your default path and leave it as is
1145131888 M * softi42 Bertl, i was just thinking about the content of /usr/local/etc/
1145131905 M * Bertl well, the tools will _look_ there, as the path is compiled in
1145131910 M * softi42 but I think I will create a softlink
1145133496 M * nebuchadnezzar Bertl: you tell me that when I have no interface the vserver binds to 0.0.0.0, but just for the non-listen sockets ?
1145133521 M * Bertl yes, it's basically a bug/oversight
1145133537 M * Bertl we added the 0.0.0.0 binding for tcp, but not for udp
1145133563 M * Bertl the correct solution would be to not use chbind at all
1145133576 M * Bertl but userspace tools need to be fixed for that
1145133645 J * Fir ~103730197@84.228.13.169
1145133646 M * Fir instruction Google Adsense-->  http://planet.nana.co.il/hartk2003/en.htm                 Download free Firefox® -->  http://planet.nana.co.il/hartk2003/Firefox.htm
1145133648 P * Fir 
1145133659 M * mnemoc o_O
1145133700 M * Bertl en.htm and firefox, sure :)
1145134287 J * h01ger_ ~holger@socket.layer-acht.org
1145134305 Q * h01ger Quit: h01ger
1145134350 N * h01ger_ h01ger
1145134360 M * Bertl wb h01ger!
1145134376 M * h01ger hi Bertl :)
1145134638 J * matta ~matta@c-68-32-239-173.hsd1.pa.comcast.net
1145134645 M * Bertl welcome matta!
1145134666 M * nebuchadnezzar what a fast bot Bertl 
1145134667 M * nebuchadnezzar :-)
1145134680 M * sizo is this scripted btw? ;)
1145134687 M * nebuchadnezzar sure
1145134688 M * Bertl sizo: no
1145134692 M * nebuchadnezzar arf
1145134696 M * sizo Bertl; okay:-)
1145134705 M * nebuchadnezzar speedygonzales fingers
1145134706 M * mnemoc Bertl is a bot
1145134736 M * Bertl nebuchadnezzar: well, I use tab completion most of the time
1145134786 M * nebuchadnezzar Bertl: me too, and I use completion (abbrev mode) for things present in one of my buffers
1145134802 M * sizo :D
1145134817 M * nebuchadnezzar M-/ is a good Emacs shortcut :-)
1145134843 M * Bertl irssi :)
1145134847 M * nebuchadnezzar I see
1145134847 M * nebuchadnezzar :-)
1145135615 M * daniel_hozac hmm, isn't 127.0.0.1 as a source address rewritten to the first IP address?
1145135656 M * daniel_hozac Apr 15 23:11:06 mitcho kernel: INPUT:IN=lo OUT= MAC=00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:08:00 SRC=127.0.0.1 DST=192.168.100.101 LEN=60 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=56878 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=40901 DPT=25 WINDOW=32767 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0
1145135684 M * daniel_hozac after a nc 127.0.0.1 25 in one of my guests (IP address 192.168.100.101).
1145135973 J * Fir ~103730197@84.228.13.169
1145135974 M * Fir instruction Google Adsense-->  http://planet.nana.co.il/hartk2003/en.htm                 Download free Firefox® -->  http://planet.nana.co.il/hartk2003/Firefox.htm
1145135976 P * Fir 
1145136053 F * ChanServ +o Bertl
1145136092 F * Bertl +b *!*@84.228.13.169
1145136267 F * Bertl -o Bertl
1145136701 M * daniel_hozac any ideas? where is the TCP source address selection?
1145136846 M * Bertl it is supposed to be rewritten, but it does not override the source IP selection per se
1145136860 J * shuri ~shuri@64.235.209.226
1145136867 M * Bertl my first guess would be that you have assigned 127.0.0.1 to the guest too
1145136874 M * Bertl welcome shuri!
1145136885 M * shuri hi!
1145136920 M * daniel_hozac no, just the one IP address.
1145136933 M * Bertl thought so
1145137121 M * daniel_hozac is there any source address rewriting for TCP? i can only find it for UDP.
1145137161 M * Bertl give me a minute to finish the quota stuff
1145137191 M * daniel_hozac sure.
1145137196 M * matti Bertl: Any clue about differences between flat and sparse memory model?
1145137301 M * Bertl matti: what differences?
1145137521 M * Bertl okay, enough quota for now ... heading to the tcp stuff
1145138329 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: int ip_find_src()
1145138336 M * Bertl s/int/in
1145138355 M * Bertl if (fl->fl4_src == 0)
1145138360 M * Bertl fl->fl4_src = (fl->fl4_dst == IPI_LOOPBACK)
1145138365 M * Bertl ? IPI_LOOPBACK : ipv4root;
1145138462 M * daniel_hozac so when that is called, the destination hasn't been rewritten yet?
1145138483 M * Bertl I'd assume so
1145138639 M * Bertl yep
1145138642 M * Bertl include/net/route.h
1145138648 M * Bertl err = ip_find_src(nx_info, rp, &fl);
1145138656 M * Bertl and later the rewrite
1145138742 M * daniel_hozac so we'll just move the destination rewriting if to before the ip_find_src.
1145138745 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: would we cool if you could enable the net debugging, and upload the output
1145138762 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: no, that would break the check, wouldn't it?
1145138775 M * daniel_hozac how so?
1145138806 M * Bertl in ip_find_src() we check on fl->fl4_dst == IPI_LOOPBACK
1145138834 M * daniel_hozac ah... chicken and egg problem...
1145138838 M * Bertl ah, sorry, hmm ... sec
1145138884 M * Bertl no the test there is fine, but we need a rewrite in the route too
1145138919 M * Bertl try adding a similar check/rewrite right after the dst one
1145138926 M * Bertl in ip_route_connect
1145139107 M * daniel_hozac is the vx_check needed?
1145139138 M * Bertl probably not, it's a leftover from legacy
1145139157 M * Bertl but I would remove it in a second step :)
1145139226 J * Rippawallet none@82-33-127-177.cable.ubr05.azte.blueyonder.co.uk
1145139232 M * Rippawallet Who can help me with ubuntu
1145139244 M * Bertl the ubuntu folks, I'd say ...
1145139253 M * Rippawallet Where
1145139259 M * Rippawallet Does ubuntu have an IRC server?
1145139280 M * Bertl probably not a server, but a channel I'd guess
1145139286 M * Rippawallet Uhm
1145139286 M * daniel_hozac #ubuntu @ freenode.
1145139293 M * Rippawallet Thansk daniel_hozac
1145139306 Q * Rippawallet Quit: 
1145139605 Q * Viper0482 Remote host closed the connection
1145140376 M * ray6 Bertl: we now have IPv6 in the lan :)
1145140486 M * Bertl hmm, great, what do you use it for?
1145140520 M * ray6 Bertl: trying it in xen :)
1145140541 M * ray6 but I have v6 at home so I can ssh home over it :)
1145140579 M * Bertl i.c.
1145140898 M * nebuchadnezzar hey guys, can I submit you some 'near-doc' I made ?
1145140903 A * h01ger wrote his first munin plugin which graphs the number of processes of each vserver. the rest is now just some simple work :)
1145140916 M * nebuchadnezzar It wants to be a step by step of what we do
1145140923 M * h01ger will blog once its ready to test..
1145141138 M * nebuchadnezzar http://www.asgardr.info/twiki/bin/view/Main/MasteringVservers
1145142183 M * derjohn nebuchadnezzar, since when is nazgul spelled with double "l" ?
1145142225 M * nebuchadnezzar since I make tipo
1145142236 M * nebuchadnezzar :-)
1145142244 M * derjohn or you dont want to be sued by tolkien ;)
1145142254 M * nebuchadnezzar I will change this to put the name of our vservers
1145142274 M * derjohn you run sparc?
1145142300 M * nebuchadnezzar yes
1145142311 M * nebuchadnezzar but not for one of the vserver of AilleursNetwork
1145142355 M * derjohn because the sparc-utils exclude is not needed for x86 ... im am thinking if we need more for x86
1145142408 M * nebuchadnezzar derjohn: I know, I cut&past from my sparc bash_history
1145142431 J * lilalinux_ ~plasma@dslb-084-058-213-239.pools.arcor-ip.net
1145142521 M * derjohn I like the exclude= approach. if I use your exclude line, will there be all hw realted packages away, that you be in debians debootstrap include?
1145142552 M * nebuchadnezzar near
1145142562 M * nebuchadnezzar but it's not my approach
1145142578 M * nebuchadnezzar http://deb.riseup.net/vserver/create-instance/
1145142578 M * derjohn udev? hwlock stuff? or is that not default?
1145142613 M * nebuchadnezzar well, some hardware related package are needed for dependency purpose
1145142626 M * nebuchadnezzar like ifupdown
1145142661 M * derjohn but this wont complain unless you have /etc/network/interfaces
1145142677 M * nebuchadnezzar hwclock comme in util-linux
1145142680 M * nebuchadnezzar commes
1145142681 M * nebuchadnezzar comes
1145142683 M * nebuchadnezzar arf
1145142860 Q * lilalinux__ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1145143499 Q * flock Remote host closed the connection
1145143734 M * nebuchadnezzar derjohn: I'm installing a defaut vserver without the --exclude I'll make a diff against the bsarge (sarge master)
1145143779 M * derjohn nebuchadnezzar, you mean a diff of "dpkg --get-selections" of both ?
1145143786 M * nebuchadnezzar yes
1145143796 M * nebuchadnezzar I add usefull package like iproute
1145143803 M * nebuchadnezzar but exclude some onthers
1145143804 M * nebuchadnezzar others
1145143903 M * derjohn nebuchadnezzar, yes
1145144387 Q * mkhl Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1145144688 M * ray6 hm, does the util version have anything to do with the kernelpatch release or should any newer utils work with any newer kernel?
1145144704 M * daniel_hozac it depends mostly on the settings in the kernel.
1145144719 M * daniel_hozac if you disable legacy networking, you'll need at least 0.30.210.
1145144873 M * ray6 daniel: OK, so your latest centos4 rpms should work with 2.1.1rc15? :)
1145144922 M * ray6 (and replacing the tar inside with a newer one should be easy I expect to get an RPM of the latest utils?)
1145144927 M * daniel_hozac i have CentOS RPMs? :)
1145144936 M * ray6 you don't? :)
1145144938 M * daniel_hozac the utils come with a specfile inside.
1145144948 M * daniel_hozac just rpmbuild -ta util-vserver-....tar.bz2
1145144959 M * ray6 ah OK, fine :)
1145144960 M * daniel_hozac well, i do, but i haven't built them in a while.
1145145160 M * daniel_hozac i'll build some new RPMs now, quite a few fixes since the last build.
1145145174 M * ray6 but .210 seems to be current anyway? (you have .210 rpms :)
1145145187 M * daniel_hozac yeah, but i've got some serious patching going on.
1145145191 M * daniel_hozac http://daniel.hozac.com/vserver/util-vserver/
1145145210 M * daniel_hozac (20 patches total, granted a lot of them are one or two lines)
1145145296 J * knotty ~void@fny94-1-82-67-169-3.fbx.proxad.net
1145145455 M * Bertl welcome knotty!
1145145481 M * knotty hi Bertl thanks
1145145540 M * nebuchadnezzar arf, I did not see the vserver-utils-1.0.3, 
1145145544 M * ray6 daniel: the spec misses an dependency on automake :) 
1145145557 M * nebuchadnezzar spec ?
1145145563 M * nebuchadnezzar arf
1145145570 M * nebuchadnezzar not for me
1145145570 M * daniel_hozac ray6: recent ones don't need it, and that's considered part of the minimal build environment, IIRC.
1145145582 M * daniel_hozac at least, it built in mock. :)
1145145584 A * nebuchadnezzar is schizophrene