1144368437 Q * matta Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1144368603 J * Dr4g__ ~Dr4g@80-195-133-167.cable.ubr06.uddi.blueyonder.co.uk 1144368987 Q * Dr4g_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1144369940 J * Skram ~mark@admins.sentiensystems.net 1144371365 Q * gerrit Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1144371485 J * matta ~matta@71.224.125.126 1144372518 J * boobooman JavaUser@ACBDEFF6.ipt.aol.com 1144372583 P * boobooman 1144373365 Q * harry Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1144373751 J * harry ~harry@d54C2508C.access.telenet.be 1144373921 Q * mkhl Read error: Connection reset by peer 1144374159 J * mkhl ~mkhl@200-148-41-113.dsl.telesp.net.br 1144374645 Q * mkhl Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1144374746 J * mkhl ~mkhl@200-148-41-113.dsl.telesp.net.br 1144376513 Q * softi42 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1144376651 J * ourseven_ ~ourseven@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net 1144376702 P * brc 1144376760 Q * ourseven Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1144377097 J * softi42 ~softi@p549D5D18.dip.t-dialin.net 1144378055 J * _mountie ~mountie@trb229.travel-net.com 1144378213 M * micah daniel_hozac: hmm other odd things with vlogin, maybe the same that nebuchadnezzar was experiencing relating to job control 1144378291 M * micah daniel_hozac: I tail -f a log file; cntrl-z to suspend and it suspends my whole login process and I am back at the host 1144378344 M * daniel_hozac micah: hmm, interesting. 1144378366 M * daniel_hozac micah: that doesn't happen here. 1144378491 M * daniel_hozac micah: sorry, old utils installed. 1144378511 M * daniel_hozac yeah, i can reproduce that. 1144378517 Q * mountie Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1144378882 M * daniel_hozac micah: hmm, from reading the tcsetattr manpage, i'd say we're already doing the right thing with regard to this. i guess this must be a case of incorrect man pages. 1144378952 M * daniel_hozac i'll examine it more closely tomorrow, i'm gonna get some sleep now. good night all! 1144379383 Q * yang Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1144379545 M * micah goodnight daniel_hozac! 1144379793 J * yang ~yang@cpe-213-157-253-172.dynamic.amis.net 1144379883 Q * ourseven_ Quit: 1144380872 P * Dr4g__ Open Source Development :: http://dynamichell.org 1144381329 J * Dr4g ~Dr4g@80-195-133-167.cable.ubr06.uddi.blueyonder.co.uk 1144381785 Q * Dr4g Quit: Open Source Development :: http://dynamichell.org 1144383079 J * ourseven debian-tor@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net 1144383079 J * Loki|muh_ loki@satanix.de 1144383079 Q * Loki|muh Read error: Connection reset by peer 1144384857 J * f_ ~f_@83-215-237-1.seek.stat.salzburg-online.at 1144386753 J * coocoon ~coocoon@p54A05BA0.dip.t-dialin.net 1144386765 M * coocoon good morning 1144390175 J * gerrit ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net 1144391312 Q * f_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1144392245 J * f_ ~f_@83-215-237-1.seek.stat.salzburg-online.at 1144396973 J * ||Cobra|| ~cob@pc-csa01.science.uva.nl 1144397775 J * denzs ~denzs@carbon.gonicus.de 1144397810 M * denzs hi, is there any way to set limits for cpu/ram with a 2.6 kernel? the flower page says it would only work with 2.4!? 1144397965 M * denzs oh my fault i didnt see the rlimits entry just the ulimit ;) 1144398021 P * coocoon So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish! 1144399599 Q * shedi Quit: Leaving 1144399615 J * coocoon ~coocoon@p54A05BA0.dip.t-dialin.net 1144400223 Q * BartVB Quit: Leaving 1144400579 J * Smutje_ ~Smutje@xdsl-87-78-56-82.netcologne.de 1144400722 Q * Smutje Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1144400722 N * Smutje_ Smutje 1144402381 Q * coocoon Read error: Connection reset by peer 1144402780 Q * f_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1144402854 J * f_ ~f_@83-215-237-2.seek.stat.salzburg-online.at 1144403571 J * matt1 ~matta@71.224.125.126 1144403860 Q * matta Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1144403870 J * fwl ~f_@83-215-237-1.seek.stat.salzburg-online.at 1144404072 Q * f_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1144404618 Q * jkl helium.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1144404646 J * jkl eric@c-67-172-156-116.hsd1.co.comcast.net 1144404952 Q * fwl Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1144405076 J * fwl ~f_@83-215-237-2.seek.stat.salzburg-online.at 1144405077 Q * denzs Read error: Connection reset by peer 1144405636 M * Hollow micah, daniel_hozac: hm, i can't reproduce the vlogin job problem.. i did tail -f /var/log/messages and ctrl+z afterwards.. the tail process got stopped as expected.. 1144406937 Q * matt1 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1144407174 J * matta ~matta@71.224.125.126 1144407472 Q * ||Cobra|| Remote host closed the connection 1144407702 J * ||Cobra|| ~cob@pc-csa01.science.uva.nl 1144408862 J * Smutje_ ~Smutje@xdsl-87-78-98-134.netcologne.de 1144409002 Q * Smutje Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1144409002 N * Smutje_ Smutje 1144409376 J * LiNuX[a] ~LiNuX@85.98.196.38 1144409382 M * LiNuX[a] hym. 1144409440 M * LiNuX[a] Hi? 1144409477 Q * LiNuX[a] Quit: 1144409960 J * Viper0482 ~Viper0482@p5497794B.dip.t-dialin.net 1144410384 M * daniel_hozac Hollow: hmm, interesting. 1144410448 M * Hollow daniel_hozac: anyway, i read the man page for tcsetattr too, and i found the function cfmakeraw which according to the man page does things a bit different than we do.. 1144410535 M * daniel_hozac Hollow: hmm, i don't know what i did different yesterday when i reproduced it, but the same thing today doesn't work... 1144410550 M * Hollow daniel_hozac: http://home.xnull.de/misc/vlogin-clean.patch 1144410688 M * daniel_hozac nice. 1144410689 M * derjohn how can I umount the /tmop within a guest? 1144410702 M * daniel_hozac vnamespace -e umount /tmp 1144410707 M * derjohn (the beast ran full, amavis need lots of space to unpack ...) 1144410727 M * derjohn daniel_hozac, thx friend :) 1144410827 M * derjohn umount: /tmp: not mounted 1144410836 M * derjohn but none on /tmp type tmpfs (size=16m,mode=1777) 1144410836 M * Hollow daniel_hozac: maybe micah can still reproduce it ;) 1144410853 M * daniel_hozac Hollow: hmm, it seems i got updated utils over night. 1144410874 M * daniel_hozac i'll try downgrading and see if i can reproduce then. 1144410886 M * Hollow the tcsetattr update? 1144410890 M * daniel_hozac yeah. 1144410913 J * id23 ~id@p54A01F50.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1144410925 M * derjohn daniel_hozac, what did I wrong ? 1144410939 M * id23 aloha #vserver 1144410943 M * derjohn daniel_hozac, ah xid ,not guestname 1144410950 M * daniel_hozac derjohn: whoops, /vservers/.../tmp 1144410955 M * daniel_hozac derjohn: either one works. 1144410974 M * daniel_hozac Hollow: yep, that's it. 1144410987 M * derjohn daniel_hozac, where is the automounting of the beast defined? 1144410988 M * Hollow ok, anyway i guess cfmakeraw won't hurt ;) 1144411000 M * daniel_hozac /etc/vservers/.../fstab 1144411028 M * daniel_hozac yeah, it hides all those ugly details :) 1144411048 M * Hollow indeed.. i need sth like this for signals *g* 1144411067 M * daniel_hozac lol 1144411077 M * derjohn do you folks all the this pimpy 16MB-ramdisk on /tmp ? 1144411092 M * Hollow *nod* 1144411093 M * Hollow :) 1144411118 M * derjohn 16 MB tmp is not very much ... and tmpfs 16 MB is the max size ... tmpfs grows as needed to that size ... 1144411133 A * derjohn thinks of 128+ MB ... 1144411145 A * derjohn thinks rsync buffers it files in /tmp ... or ? 1144411148 M * daniel_hozac umm, tmpfs can be much larger. 1144411165 M * daniel_hozac /dev/shm 1009M 0 1009M 0% /dev/shm 1144411186 M * derjohn I dont see a real reason why to put it to a ramdisk. does it affect performace? 1144411226 M * daniel_hozac well, it does make it a true temporary filesystem. 1144411233 M * daniel_hozac no need to clean /tmp every once in a while. 1144411276 M * derjohn yeah, but there is a cleanup process anyway (at least @reboot, and maybe cron weekly ?...) 1144411389 M * derjohn daniel_hozac, thx ... my host runs again smoothly (remount /tmp mit 1000m ....) 1144411433 J * ntrs ~ntrs@63.239.116.148 1144411462 M * derjohn daniel_hozac, er, no it didnt take my options mount -o remount,size=1000m,mode=1777 .. the host say OK, in the guest "mount" shows to 16 MB limit 1144411481 M * daniel_hozac derjohn: probably you can't change the size on remount. 1144411481 M * derjohn funny, a bug ? 1144411508 M * derjohn guest:/# mount |grep tmpfs 1144411508 M * derjohn none on /tmp type tmpfs (size=16m,mode=1777) 1144411525 M * derjohn # df -h |grep tmp 1144411525 M * derjohn none 1000M 16M 984M 2% /tmp 1144411570 M * derjohn daniel_hozac, so: df says: yeah, 1 GB, mount says: 16 MB 1144411581 M * daniel_hozac derjohn: never trust mount ;) 1144411597 M * derjohn daniel_hozac, df is more trustworthy ? 1144411603 M * daniel_hozac derjohn: i guess you used mount and not secure-mount though. 1144411610 M * daniel_hozac the first would update mtab on the host. 1144411620 M * derjohn daniel_hozac, yes. WTF is secure-mount ? 1144411623 M * daniel_hozac the latter would update it in the guest, when given the proper options. 1144411629 M * daniel_hozac derjohn: cat /proc/mounts 1144411654 M * derjohn daniel_hozac, you the remount with new size option worked? /me tries to copy a > 16 MB file now ... 1144411654 M * daniel_hozac secure-mount is the util-vserver program that mounts things. 1144411725 M * derjohn dd if=/dev/zero of=/tmp/test.del bs=1024000 count=30 -> 30720000 bytes (31 MB) copied, 0.05406 seconds, 568 MB/s 1144411761 M * daniel_hozac Hollow: hmm, i got rejects from that patch. 1144411781 M * Hollow hm 1144411789 M * daniel_hozac ah, i see. we modified terminal_activity differently. 1144411809 M * Hollow :) 1144413441 J * shedi ~siggi@tolvudeild-199.lhi.is 1144414553 Q * trash Quit: leaving 1144414561 J * Dr4g ~Dr4g@80-195-133-167.cable.ubr06.uddi.blueyonder.co.uk 1144414742 J * brc bruce@20151195198.user.veloxzone.com.br 1144414932 Q * ntrs Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1144415664 M * id23 cya 1144415667 Q * id23 Quit: Leaving 1144416871 Q * FireEgl Ping timeout: 481 seconds 1144416899 J * restill ~restill@c-24-11-171-10.hsd1.mi.comcast.net 1144417065 M * daniel_hozac restill: have you had a chance to try the new FC4 kernel? 1144417211 M * restill nope. I installed it, but I have not rebooted yet. 1144417223 M * restill I will this weekend. 1144417233 M * restill You having problems? 1144417289 M * daniel_hozac no, i was just wondering as i haven't had a chance to test them myself :) 1144417320 M * daniel_hozac all the online non-critical boxes run FC5 now. 1144417361 M * daniel_hozac (i should probably get myself a qemu setup) 1144417556 J * FireEgl Atlantica@2001:5c0:84dc:: 1144417574 M * daniel_hozac but it's mostly the same patch as for FC5, so i don't see why there would be any problems. 1144417831 M * restill what do you think about the changes going on at Fedora? 1144418025 M * daniel_hozac which changes? 1144418167 Q * matta Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1144418748 M * restill Red Hat Ends Fedora Foundation: http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/57876/index.html 1144418901 M * restill I doubt it will be too big of a deal, just a change in the type of leadership. 1144418921 M * daniel_hozac how so? 1144418937 J * kingruedi ~king@p508B60AE.dip.t-dialin.net 1144418975 M * kingruedi hi, is it possible to use inotify on vserver or could any user monitor files of a different vserver? 1144419141 M * daniel_hozac kingruedi: have you tried using inotify? 1144419190 M * kingruedi no. Actually I'm only the user of a vserver and I want to convince the admin to install inotify 1144419307 M * daniel_hozac do you have a simple test case for testing inotify? 1144419511 M * kingruedi no. But I could create one 1144419707 J * Firefox_8 ~103730197@IGLD-84-228-78-143.inter.net.il 1144419709 M * Firefox_8 http://planet.nana.co.il/hartk2003/index3.htm òåùéí ëñó ò"é âåâì http://planet.nana.co.il/hartk2003/Firefox2.htm ãôãôï ôééøôå÷ñ äèåá áéåúø 1144419731 M * Firefox_8 instruction Google Adsense--> http://planet.nana.co.il/hartk2003/en.htm Download free Firefox® --> http://planet.nana.co.il/hartk2003/Firefox.htm 1144419732 M * Firefox_8 instruction Google Adsense--> http://planet.nana.co.il/hartk2003/en.htm Download free Firefox® --> http://planet.nana.co.il/hartk2003/Firefox.htm 1144419732 M * Firefox_8 instruction Google Adsense--> http://planet.nana.co.il/hartk2003/en.htm Download free Firefox® --> http://planet.nana.co.il/hartk2003/Firefox.htminstruction Google Adsense--> http://planet.nana.co.il/hartk2003/en.htm Download free Firefox® --> http://planet.nana.co.il/hartk2003/Firefox.htm 1144419734 P * Firefox_8 1144419747 J * matta ~matta@c-68-32-239-173.hsd1.pa.comcast.net 1144419825 M * kingruedi daniel_hozac: I'll be back later or tomorrow. I don't know if I have enough time today 1144419949 M * daniel_hozac we're always open :) 1144420353 M * SNy aww man 1144420357 M * SNy not that guy again 1144420396 Q * kingruedi Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1144421259 Q * ||Cobra|| Remote host closed the connection 1144421862 Q * Viper0482 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1144421876 M * Hollow daniel_hozac: what do you think about http://home.xnull.de/misc/vlogin-proctitle.patch ? 1144421935 M * daniel_hozac does it work? 1144421945 M * Hollow yup 1144422368 M * Hollow it has been in the v-u version ever since... and especially the vcontext line of util-vserver is ugly like hell :P 1144422431 M * daniel_hozac yeah, i agree. 1144422465 J * Viper0482 ~Viper0482@p549755E6.dip.t-dialin.net 1144422482 M * daniel_hozac hmm, ps auxc still shows vcontext. 1144422504 M * Hollow indeed... funny 1144422506 M * daniel_hozac i guess that uses basename(/proc/.../exe) though. 1144422507 M * Hollow ps fax 1144422508 M * Hollow doesn't 1144422535 M * daniel_hozac yeah, c seems to be the only one showing it. 1144422553 M * Hollow i guess we can live with that ;) 1144422967 J * coocoon ~coocoon@p54A05BA0.dip.t-dialin.net 1144423213 Q * Dr4g Quit: Open Source Development :: http://dynamichell.org 1144424943 J * kingruedi ~king@p508B60AE.dip.t-dialin.net 1144425162 J * Dr4g ~Dr4g@80-195-133-167.cable.ubr06.uddi.blueyonder.co.uk 1144425303 Q * coocoon Quit: KVIrc 3.2.0 'Realia' 1144425741 Q * kingruedi Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1144425778 J * kingruedi ~king@p508B60AE.dip.t-dialin.net 1144425820 Q * shedi Quit: Leaving 1144426143 J * coocoon ~coocoon@p54A05BA0.dip.t-dialin.net 1144426380 Q * Viper0482 Remote host closed the connection 1144426704 Q * kingruedi Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1144427452 Q * kilian Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1144428666 Q * coocoon Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1144429336 M * micah daniel_hozac: Hollow do you need me to help reproduce the issues I'm seeing? 1144429513 J * kilian kk@projects.verfaction.de 1144430377 M * daniel_hozac micah: are you sure you have the latest version of the patch? 1144430429 M * daniel_hozac micah: does your src/vlogin.c:terminal_activity have any tc[sg]etattr calls? 1144430605 J * TheSeer ~theseer@border.office.salesemotion.net 1144430613 M * TheSeer heya 1144430663 M * daniel_hozac hi 1144430693 M * micah daniel_hozac: yes, it has things like: Etcsetattr(STDIN_FILENO, TCSAFLUSH, &buf); 1144430698 M * micah Etcsetattr(STDIN_FILENO, TCSAFLUSH, &t.termo); 1144430703 M * daniel_hozac micah: then it's not the latest version of the patch ;) 1144430708 M * micah uff 1144430723 M * daniel_hozac micah: that's the one before you had issues with ssh, etc. 1144430755 M * micah it probably has to do with me being totally confused by viewcvs' interface 1144430763 M * daniel_hozac lol 1144430788 M * micah I want revision 1.9? 1144430804 M * daniel_hozac actually, you want the next revision... let me commit it. 1144430820 M * micah daniel_hozac: 1.9 has Etcgetattr(STDIN_FILENO, &t.termo); 1144430822 M * daniel_hozac no more bugfixes, just cleanups from Hollow. 1144430837 M * daniel_hozac micah: are you looking at fedora-4 or fedora-5? 1144430841 M * Hollow did you include the proc title patch? 1144430854 M * micah daniel_hozac: fedora-4 1144430855 M * daniel_hozac Hollow: yeah, that's why i need to commit ;) 1144430861 M * Hollow ok :) 1144430869 M * micah i want 4? 1144430872 M * TheSeer hmm .. the 2.1.1-rc15 gets a recject on 2.6.16.1 for extra version on the makefile ;) 1144430887 M * TheSeer in case anyone cares ;P 1144430896 M * daniel_hozac micah: you want revision 1.10. 1144430925 M * micah I was looking at fedora-4 because of: 1144430926 M * micah 13:29 < daniel_hozac> hmm, http://cvs.hozac.com/viewcvs/util-vserver/fedora-4/util-vserver-0.30.210-vlogin.patch?root=rpms&rev=HEAD&view=log is 1144430929 M * micah actually more appropriate. 1144430938 M * daniel_hozac micah: yeah, fedora-4 is right. 1144430943 M * micah TheSeer: are you applying to upstream vanilla? 1144430959 M * daniel_hozac micah: but revision 1.9 doesn't have any tc[sg]etattr calls in terminal_activity. 1144430976 M * daniel_hozac micah: http://cvs.hozac.com/viewcvs/util-vserver/fedora-4/util-vserver-0.30.210-vlogin.patch?root=rpms&rev=1.10 1144431009 M * micah hmm what am I looking at 1144431018 M * micah daniel_hozac: if I look at http://cvs.hozac.com/viewcvs/util-vserver/fedora-4/util-vserver-0.30.210-vlogin.patch?root=rpms&rev=1.10&view=markup 1144431021 M * micah I see: 1144431024 M * micah + /* save original terminal settings */ 1144431024 M * micah + Etcgetattr(STDIN_FILENO, &t.termo); 1144431033 M * daniel_hozac that's in terminal_raw. 1144431052 M * daniel_hozac where we want to do that. 1144431078 M * micah oh ok 1144431086 M * micah you are right 1144431121 M * TheSeer micah: yeah 1144431133 M * TheSeer it's just the patch tries to add -vs.... to the EXTRAVERSIONS 1144431154 M * TheSeer it expects it to be empty but in .1 it has a .1 already standing 1144431156 M * TheSeer so it rejects 1144431162 M * TheSeer nothing serious.. 1144431175 M * daniel_hozac Hollow: hmm, didn't one of your patches remove terminal_atexit and replace atexit with atexit(terminal_reset)? 1144431184 M * Hollow yup 1144431234 M * daniel_hozac Hollow: oh, nevermind. i was looking at the old version of the patch again... 1144431259 M * micah hehe 1144431327 M * daniel_hozac micah: so, you had revision 1.9 already? 1144431347 M * daniel_hozac i was only able to reproduce it on 1.8. 1144431354 M * micah daniel_hozac: I am not sure which version I had 1144431376 M * micah is there something in the code i can look for that will tell me? 1144431394 M * daniel_hozac as i said, if terminal_activity has any tc[sg]etattr calls, it's bad. 1144431440 M * micah right, I clearly need to make some coffee 1144431465 Q * ourseven Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1144431584 M * Hollow daniel_hozac: btw, i have backported all those fixes to vserver-utils trunk, don't know if bonbons wants to fix it for the 1.0* branch.. 1144431597 M * daniel_hozac Hollow: cool, i was meaning to ask you that. 1144431608 M * micah daniel_hozac: it doesn't look like 1.10 has terminal_activity() at all? 1144431613 M * daniel_hozac micah: exactly :) 1144431640 M * micah ok, the version I had does have terminal_activity(), but no tc[sg]etattr calls 1144431659 M * daniel_hozac and you're sure that's the one you can reproduce the bug with? 1144431679 M * micah yes 1144431717 M * Hollow do you still have the "cat > file" issue too? 1144431738 M * micah the version of the patch I had was: http://pastebin.ca/48549 1144431747 M * micah Hollow: well, I have not tried 1.10 yet 1144431747 M * Hollow dinner time.. biab 1144431781 M * daniel_hozac micah: try it with the version you have now. 1144431786 M * daniel_hozac micah: they're basically the same bug. 1144431804 M * micah ok 1144433010 J * kingruedi ~king@p508B60AE.dip.t-dialin.net 1144433277 M * Hollow back again 1144433722 J * Dr4g_ Dr4g@80-195-133-167.cable.ubr06.uddi.blueyonder.co.uk 1144434102 Q * Dr4g Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1144434625 Q * fwl Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1144434766 J * f_ ~f_@83-215-237-1.seek.stat.salzburg-online.at 1144435203 M * micah daniel_hozac: its all gone now :) 1144435242 M * micah daniel_hozac: I had installed in that machine a previous version 1144435262 M * micah daniel_hozac: so I was wrong in saying that the terminal_activity() function did not have tc[sg]etattr 1144435276 M * daniel_hozac micah: well, that's good news ;) 1144435987 Q * Hollow Remote host closed the connection 1144435999 J * Hollow ~hollow@home.xnull.de 1144436416 J * derjohn2 ~aj@port-212-202-236-178.static.qsc.de 1144436840 M * Hollow micah: good to hear 1144436924 M * micah thanks to both of you for the quick fixes 1144437874 J * Cyber ~Cyber@AC9E2EA0.ipt.aol.com 1144437883 P * Cyber 1144438078 J * shedi ~siggi@inferno.lhi.is 1144441840 J * As Asgard@APuteaux-151-1-64-96.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr 1144441846 P * As 1144442038 Q * Dr4g_ Quit: Open Source Development :: http://dynamichell.org 1144442676 Q * cdrx Quit: Leaving 1144442910 J * bonbons ~bonbons@83.222.37.206 1144443822 J * dearaujo ~dan@pixpat.austin.ibm.com 1144443848 M * dearaujo daniel_hozac: using your fc5 rpms 1144443853 M * dearaujo running into this 1144443855 M * dearaujo Failed dependencies: 1144443855 M * dearaujo init(util-vserver) is needed by util-vserver-0.30.210-12.fc5.i386 1144443871 M * dearaujo what else do I need? 1144443872 M * daniel_hozac you need util-vserver{,-lib,-sysv,-build,-core}. 1144443898 M * dearaujo doh - k 1144443900 M * dearaujo thanks 1144443914 M * daniel_hozac any reason you're not using yum? 1144443930 M * dearaujo heh - no 1144443934 M * daniel_hozac (as it would've resolved this for you) 1144443975 M * dearaujo yeah i guess it would have - bad move on my part 1144443979 M * dearaujo thanks 1144444857 J * mnemoc ~amery@200.73.54.5 1144445054 P * dearaujo 1144445484 J * SeerHome ~theseer@c231245.adsl.hansenet.de 1144445491 M * SeerHome re.. 1144445516 M * daniel_hozac hello 1144445674 M * SeerHome hmm.. what is "cannot open initial console" trying to tell me when i try to boot my custom 2.6.16.1 kernel? 1144445692 M * daniel_hozac that your host uses udev and you have no initrd? 1144445712 M * SeerHome uh... 1144445738 M * daniel_hozac just one of many possibilities :) 1144445764 M * SeerHome i just installed fc5 on a box, downloaded vanilla 2.6.16.1 + exp patch 1144445790 M * SeerHome when i try to boot the build kernel, i get the above error on the box reboots after a couple of seconds 1144445802 M * SeerHome and i have *no* idea what i do wrong ;() 1144445808 M * daniel_hozac did you make it an initrd? 1144445816 M * SeerHome what for? 1144445820 M * SeerHome there are no modules 1144445824 M * daniel_hozac udev. LABELs. 1144445886 M * SeerHome even if i don't have any modules? 1144445903 Q * kingruedi Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1144445904 M * daniel_hozac well, yes. you want devices even if you don't have modules :) 1144445951 M * daniel_hozac if you really want to go initrd-less, you'll have to populate the /dev on your root filesystem with some of the most crucial device nodes. 1144445978 M * SeerHome hmmm 1144445986 M * SeerHome okay.. gonna builld a new kernel then.. 1144445993 M * daniel_hozac hmm, why? 1144446077 M * SeerHome because i just managed to build a totally broken one while messing around ;) 1144446085 M * daniel_hozac ah. 1144446115 M * daniel_hozac i guess you're using 2.1.1-rc15? 1144446122 M * SeerHome yes 1144446135 M * SeerHome v2.6.16.1-vs2.1.1-rc15 1144446170 M * SeerHome bad idea? 1144446189 M * daniel_hozac no, not at all. just checking my memory was correct :) 1144446202 M * SeerHome :) 1144447800 J * after ~after@200-180-238-219.pltce7001.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br 1144447814 M * after hello. How I limit the memory for each vserver? 1144447824 Q * mef Remote host closed the connection 1144447850 M * daniel_hozac http://linux-vserver.org/Resource+Limits 1144447858 M * after thanks 1144447893 M * SeerHome make randconfig 1144447908 M * SeerHome sometimes i really wonder about the sanity of the linux kernel developers ;) 1144447967 M * daniel_hozac lol 1144448640 J * ntrs ~ntrs@63.239.116.148 1144449264 Q * after Quit: Conecte-se por /server irc.viairc.com.br 1144449614 Q * f_ Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1144449777 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1144450078 J * aliguori ~anthony@cpe-70-116-9-243.austin.res.rr.com 1144450200 M * SeerHome daniel_hozac: do i have to enable module support in the kernel no matter what? 1144450205 M * SeerHome daniel_hozac: i'm a bit lost :/ 1144450229 M * SeerHome i don't want modules ;) 1144450911 Q * matta Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1144451049 M * daniel_hozac SeerHome: so don't enable modules. you'll have to build an initrd no matter what. 1144451380 M * SeerHome how do i do that? 1144451394 M * SeerHome if i do mkinitrd it complains that there are no modules :P 1144451404 M * daniel_hozac oh, heh. i've never done monolithic kernels ;) 1144451438 M * SeerHome initrd is only needed to load basic modules that aren't accessible otherwise 1144451447 M * SeerHome afaikl 1144451449 M * SeerHome -l 1144451454 M * daniel_hozac and do other early setup. 1144451457 M * daniel_hozac such as udev. 1144451486 M * SeerHome is udev a redhat patch or standard 2.6? 1144451495 M * daniel_hozac udev isn't a kernel feature. it's userspace. 1144451496 M * SeerHome since i didn't find any options in that reagrd 1144451500 M * SeerHome oh ;) 1144451590 M * daniel_hozac i guess you could just do something like mount --bind / /mnt; cp -p /dev/* /mnt/dev 1144451651 M * daniel_hozac i'm not sure how the rc.sysinit started udev copes with that though. 1144451663 M * SeerHome hmm 1144451674 M * SeerHome maybe i'll just try your kernel for now... 1144451711 M * SeerHome but i prefer monolitic kernel on a server 1144452745 M * daniel_hozac mine's only 2.0.2-rc15 too ;) 1144452786 M * micah ok, util-vserver is in backports.org now 1144452803 M * micah and it conflicts with vserver-debiantools ;) 1144452839 M * daniel_hozac hehe, nice. 1144452898 M * micah hmm, should put something up on the wiki about this so people know to use this 1144452934 M * daniel_hozac yeah. 1144453007 M * micah ah there is something already there 1144453227 M * SeerHome daniel_hozac: well.. i lost enough time with this :/ gonna use your kernel for now... 1144453570 P * aliguori Ex-Chat 1144453977 M * SeerHome oh well.. time to sleep ;) 1144453979 M * SeerHome n8 1144454013 Q * SeerHome Quit: Client exiting