1144022532 Q * insomnia1 Read error: Connection reset by peer 1144022566 J * insomniac ~insomniac@slackware.it 1144023769 Q * michal` Ping timeout: 481 seconds 1144024535 M * daniel_hozac Cru: ping. any news on vps-dev for FC5? 1144025212 J * virtuoso ~s0t0na@shisha.spb.ru 1144030174 Q * mkhl Quit: 1144030928 J * shedi ~siggi@inferno.lhi.is 1144031624 Q * inflation Quit: leaving 1144031691 Q * matta Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1144031721 J * levin_ debian-tor@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net 1144031825 N * levin_ levin 1144031839 M * Bertl hey lilo! 1144031946 M * daniel_hozac i guess they really didn't like that april fools, huh? 1144031960 M * Bertl yeah, probably backfired a little ... 1144032232 Q * Soekris Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1144032236 Q * levin Quit: 1144032290 J * levin ~lilo@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net 1144032757 A * levin waves to Bertl 1144032782 A * Bertl waves back 1144032924 A * levin has a new irc nickname 1144032927 A * levin is not lilo anymore 1144032938 M * levin apparently OFTC is now certified lilo-free, so I had to change 1144032940 A * levin hides 1144032950 M * Bertl lol 1144032963 A * levin scratches his head and resolves not to think much about it 8) 1144032968 M * Bertl they really didn't like the prank 1144032978 M * levin yeah, they *really* didn't like the prank 8) 1144032984 M * levin or maybe it was the prankster 8) 1144032991 A * levin was a bit surprised 1144032996 M * Bertl although I have to admit that it wasn't that bad ... 1144033016 M * levin I didn't think so....I certainly didn't expect to get that whole massive response thing 1144033053 M * levin otoh, I'm not sure how long I was klined....apparently they just rendered my nick unusable 1144033066 M * levin maybe they took the klines off relatively quickly 1144033084 M * levin erm, nobody saw fit to inform me of the details 8) 1144033153 M * Bertl next week, everything will be forgotten ... 1144033178 M * levin yep, I suspect so 1144033229 A * levin makes a note, no more April Fools pranks on OFTC 1144034030 J * MRWo0fer ~MRWOof@65.98.20.60 1144034038 M * Bertl welcome MRWo0fer! 1144034042 M * MRWo0fer Hey bert 1144034044 M * MRWo0fer lookign for u 1144034050 M * MRWo0fer do you know a way to convert uml to verserver? 1144034068 M * Bertl hmm, I'd say, just copy it somehow 1144034077 M * Bertl (i.e. tar or dump or rsync) 1144034090 M * MRWo0fer no way to move or mount the image 1144034093 M * MRWo0fer somehow 1144034103 M * MRWo0fer i mean it is an .img file 1144034112 M * Bertl don't know too much about the UML images 1144034118 M * MRWo0fer basically 1144034121 M * MRWo0fer a dd of a workign system 1144034127 M * daniel_hozac if you can mount -o loop mount it, it'll work fine. 1144034129 M * Bertl but if you can _access_ them on the host, you can copy/use them 1144034143 M * MRWo0fer you can but not a running one 1144034148 N * [PUPPETS]Gonzo _Gonzo_ 1144034162 M * MRWo0fer once it is running if you mount it -o loop you can corrupt it 1144034180 M * Bertl okay, so you stop it, mount it (as loop) and be done then 1144034198 M * MRWo0fer mount as loop 1144034201 M * MRWo0fer and move the data into the vps 1144034208 M * Bertl precisely 1144034216 M * MRWo0fer for 35 or so 1144034219 M * MRWo0fer that will take a LONG TIME 1144034230 M * Bertl or you keep the loop mount 1144034236 M * Bertl (and use that directly) 1144034247 M * MRWo0fer now that is interesting 1144034250 M * Bertl but you will lose the unification and such 1144034255 M * MRWo0fer right 1144034267 M * MRWo0fer but vserver performs better though even with out unificiation than uml 1144034308 Q * FireEgl Quit: Bye... 1144034387 M * Bertl what filesystem is it? 1144034393 M * Bertl (the uml) 1144034401 M * MRWo0fer ext3 1144034439 M * Bertl how large are the .img files in average? 1144034444 M * MRWo0fer 4 to 40gb 1144034450 M * MRWo0fer depending on the client 1144034452 M * MRWo0fer mostly 4gb 1144034477 M * Bertl so using dump/restore on them would probably take 5mins each 1144034488 M * MRWo0fer umm 1144034489 M * MRWo0fer interesitng 1144034494 M * MRWo0fer i should test that out 1144034507 M * Bertl and you could then start and test the guest, and if it works, you can remove the .img 1144034537 M * Bertl if you have enough space, you can also automate the process (mount/dump/restore) 1144034963 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: okay, if you like to test, here is the 2.0.2 version of the rlimit fix 1144034977 M * Bertl http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/delta-rlimit-fix01b.diff 1144035009 M * MRWo0fer umm 1144035205 J * ntrs ~ntrs@m115e36d0.tmodns.net 1144035571 Q * levin Quit: leaving 1144035731 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: any ETA on -rc15s? 1144035850 M * Bertl test compiling now 1144035907 M * daniel_hozac ok, cool. 1144036420 M * MRWo0fer bert: the question is which is better vserver or openvz 1144036647 M * Bertl MRWo0fer: I can't tell you, as I do not know the details for openvz 1144036746 M * Bertl MRWo0fer: would be interesting to do some comparisons if you got the time 1144036782 M * MRWo0fer I would have thought a man in your position would have done it by now 1144036818 M * Bertl well, I look at the code from time to time, but I didn't spend any time on benchmarking openvz 1144036848 M * Bertl and I haven't seen any benchmarking for that yet either 1144036920 M * Bertl according to their web page it must be really bad, but according to their claims in the channel it is _much_ better than Linux-VServer of course :) 1144036937 M * MRWo0fer haha 1144036959 M * MRWo0fer so how does freevps compare to vserver i knwo freevps was based onit 1144036992 M * Bertl yes, FreeVPS is an early spinoff, not sure it is still maintained though 1144036998 M * MRWo0fer it is 1144037004 M * Bertl Alexey and Say seem to do other things now 1144037010 M * MRWo0fer spoke to igor before 1144037030 M * Bertl hmm, who is igor? 1144037045 M * MRWo0fer one of the bosses 1144037046 M * MRWo0fer over there 1144037052 M * MRWo0fer the old owner of it before they sold to comodo 1144037085 M * Bertl you seem to know a lot more details than I do :) 1144037140 M * MRWo0fer i try to stay informed 1144037156 M * Bertl good, what do you know about Linux-VServer :) 1144037308 Q * ntrs Quit: Leaving 1144037568 M * MRWo0fer not much 1144037570 M * MRWo0fer which is why i am here 1144037577 M * MRWo0fer i tried it when jacques was messing with it 1144037587 M * Bertl three years ago? 1144037592 M * MRWo0fer yea 1144037602 M * Bertl k, a lot of stuff changed since :) 1144037616 M * MRWo0fer i was the one who btiched at cpanel to develop taht half done vserver contorl panle 1144037617 M * MRWo0fer :) 1144037668 M * Bertl here is an (outdated) overview of the features we added since 1144037669 M * Bertl http://linux-vserver.org/Release+FAQ 1144037693 M * MRWo0fer mos tof that is above my head 1144037738 M * Bertl basically the 2.6 version is a complete rewrite, except for some small parts in the networking 1144037807 M * MRWo0fer what happened ot jacques all that time ago 1144037847 M * Bertl I don't know the details, but he had personal issues, and wasn't able/willing to maintain the project any longer 1144037874 M * Bertl he is still providing the guest for the wiki page and releases tools now and then 1144037895 M * Bertl hasn't shown up here for a long time though 1144038176 M * Hollow morning 1144038252 M * Bertl morning Hollow! 1144038292 M * Hollow hey Bertl! a lot of fixes appeared.. 1144038326 M * Hollow oh wow, a scheduler monitor? 1144038524 M * Hollow Bertl: hm, i think you told me already why it isn't a good idea, but why do we have no syscall to get the scheduler settings? 1144038885 M * Bertl well, we can have one, no problem with that actually 1144038943 M * Bertl the question is, why would you like to read those values at all? 1144039024 M * Hollow well... to see how the csheduler was configured? 1144039052 M * Hollow i just thought the schedmon is exactly that, but it seems more something like the history tracing, right? 1144039060 M * Bertl yup 1144039092 M * Bertl and I'm not sure if it is a good thing to add that now, so it will not be in rc15 :) 1144039100 M * Hollow hehe, ok 1144039146 J * f_ ~f_@83-215-237-1.seek.stat.salzburg-online.at 1144039217 Q * f_ Quit: 1144039238 M * ray6 FreeVPS is alive? I recently looked it up and they had prebuilt kernels for RedHat 7.3 available as newest %-) 1144039313 M * ray6 but OK, newest release is 5 days old :) 1144039358 M * ray6 hmmm. Must have been on some strange page the other day 1144039413 M * Bertl really, somebody should sit down, try all those and write some kind of report with benchmarking and such 1144039445 M * Bertl of course, comparing RH 7.3 kernels with 2.6.16 is probably not that easy 1144039496 T * Bertl http://linux-vserver.org/ | latest stable 2.01, 1.2.10, 1.2.11-rc1, devel 2.1.0, exp 2.{0.2,1.1}-rc15 | util-vserver-0.30.210 | libvserver-1.0.2 & vserver-utils-1.0.3 | He who asks a question is a fool for a minute; he who doesn't ask is a fool for a lifetime -- share the gained knowledge on the wiki, and we'll forget about the minute ;) 1144039502 M * Bertl *rc15 1144039531 M * Hollow i like this one: http://www.freevps.com/tracker.html would be very nice to have sth liek that too 1144039533 M * ray6 Bertl: I'm not sure if benchmarking is the main/only concern. I guess for example vserver and freeVPS will have about the same performance :) OpenVZ should have or they did something wrong :) Xen will always be slower on various things. VMWare too :) qemu will lose :) 1144039536 M * Bertl (still against 2.6.16, but should be fine for 2.6.16.1 too) 1144039554 M * ray6 I think more interesting would be a comparision of Features/abilities 1144039572 M * ray6 FreeVPS for example claims to have better Scheduling and RAM management options IIRC 1144039579 M * Bertl ray6: well, somebody should check that they didn't get it wrong though :) 1144039654 M * ray6 Bertl: sure, one can try that out. But still performance today isn't the main point in many applications anyway. Might be in some. Ressource usage could be another one, for example UML is slower than xen but needs less ressources (to some point) still offering most of the features 1144039692 M * Hollow Bertl: i'd love to do a comparision, but not before june due to abitur, and i'm lacking testing hardware too.. 1144039820 A * ray6 has enough testing hardware and enough abitur :>> but no time also :) 1144039834 M * Hollow :P 1144039844 M * Hollow well, i'd have plenty of time then 1144039854 M * ray6 Hollow: in your dreams :) 1144039864 M * Hollow so? 1144039884 M * Hollow i have about 4 months of free time to fill 1144039911 A * ray6 started working for an ISP those days and then almost had no time for university :) 1144039923 M * Hollow i don't work for anyone.. 1144039930 M * Hollow (except for myself) 1144039938 M * ray6 luckily the ISP went bankrupt so I had a few weeks to finish the diploma :) 1144039982 M * Hollow heh 1144039987 M * ray6 no, I think I never again had so much spare time as before the abitur :) 1144040010 M * Hollow well, i'd say 2-4 weeks are needed to move to berlin, but still 3 months to fill ;) 1144040050 A * ray6 would mainly be interested in a comparision of features. Find distinctive things one soloution can do that others can't... 1144040260 M * ray6 but of course a little bit of benchmarking shouldn't be a real problem. Benchmarking is easy. The art lies in interpreting the results :) 1144040296 M * Hollow you're very welcome to send some test hardware :) 1144040674 M * ray6 the ones I don't need are not really worth the shipping :) 1144040720 M * Hollow yeah, sounds familar :) 1144040871 M * Bertl okay, off to bed now ... back later 1144040877 M * Bertl have a good one everyone ... cya 1144040883 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1144040897 M * ray6 n8 Bertl... Hm, I'll stay up 'til 8, got to do some phonecalls :/ 1144041387 M * Skram hey all 1144041392 Q * cryo Read error: Connection reset by peer 1144041393 M * Skram anyone have problems with syslog-ng? 1144041405 M * Skram :( 1144041418 M * Skram Error opening file /proc/kmsg for reading (Operation not permitted) 1144041418 M * Skram Error initializing configuration, exiting. 1144041424 M * Skram what is the fix, i used to know it 1144041425 J * cryo ~say@psoft.user.matrix.farlep.net 1144041675 M * Hollow Skram: syslog-ng.conf: remove /proc/kmsg entry 1144041693 M * Skram the whole line? 1144041718 M * Hollow depends whats in the whole line... just the entry for kmsg.. 1144041723 M * Hollow the rest should be ok 1144041747 M * Skram there we go 1144041747 M * Skram thanks 1144042538 M * Hollow rc15 in portage + 0.30.210-r7 including some fixes.. off to school now 1144043225 M * Skram :( 1144047254 M * Hollow back already.. 1144048098 Q * are|afk Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1144048483 Q * softi42 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1144048536 J * ourseven ~ourseven@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net 1144048852 N * ourseven ourseven_ 1144048957 N * ourseven_ ourseven 1144049112 J * softi42 ~softi@p549D6B5D.dip.t-dialin.net 1144050406 Q * weasel Quit: Changing server 1144050408 J * weasel weasel@asteria.debian.or.at 1144050648 Q * weasel Quit: Changing server 1144050652 J * weasel weasel@asteria.debian.or.at 1144051220 J * id23 ~id@p54A000B2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1144051235 M * id23 morning #vserver 1144051317 J * Smutje ~Smutje@xdsl-84-44-243-116.netcologne.de 1144053174 Q * id23 Quit: Leaving 1144053701 J * ||Cobra|| ~cob@pc-csa01.science.uva.nl 1144054816 Q * mountie Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1144054883 J * mountie ~mountie@CPEdeaddeaddead-CM000a739acaa4.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com 1144057590 J * the_hack_webber ~thw@masq-0ac901.wittig-technologies.com 1144057610 J * id23 ~id@p54A000B2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1144059624 Q * id23 Quit: Leaving 1144060408 J * FireEgl Atlantica@2001:5c0:84dc:: 1144061520 J * phreak`` ~phreak``@134.68.220.30 1144062016 J * yarihm ~yarihm@84-74-23-214.dclient.hispeed.ch 1144062945 N * _jake- jake- 1144064095 J * chirp ~chirp@202-169-194-76.megapass.world-net.co.nz 1144064586 J * harti ~hw@83-215-237-5.seek.stat.salzburg-online.at 1144064856 Q * weasel Quit: Changing server 1144064859 J * weasel weasel@asteria.debian.or.at 1144064967 Q * weasel Quit: Changing server 1144064970 J * weasel weasel@asteria.debian.or.at 1144065016 Q * weasel Quit: 1144065016 J * weasel weasel@asteria.debian.or.at 1144065037 Q * chirp Quit: Leaving 1144066724 J * Viper0482 ~Viper0482@p54977F42.dip.t-dialin.net 1144066847 Q * mire Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1144066934 Q * Viper0482 Remote host closed the connection 1144067536 Q * lonewolff Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1144068842 Q * weasel Quit: Changing server 1144068845 J * weasel weasel@asteria.debian.or.at 1144069095 J * meandtheshell ~markus@85-125-229-196.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at 1144069750 J * insomnia1 ~insomniac@slackware.it 1144069750 Q * insomniac Read error: Connection reset by peer 1144069972 J * Viper0482 ~Viper0482@p54977F42.dip.t-dialin.net 1144072624 J * matta ~matta@c-68-32-239-173.hsd1.pa.comcast.net 1144074641 Q * harti Quit: Leaving 1144075033 J * Dr4g ~Dr4g@80-195-53-145.cable.ubr06.uddi.blueyonder.co.uk 1144075526 Q * MRWo0fer Read error: Connection reset by peer 1144075967 N * insomnia1 insomniac 1144078103 J * restill ~restill@24.11.171.10 1144078654 J * click click@ti511110a080-4050.bb.online.no 1144080195 J * doener ~doener@i5387C5B4.versanet.de 1144080592 Q * doener_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1144081258 J * bonbons ~bonbons@83.222.39.180 1144081838 P * the_hack_webber 1144081995 Q * ||Cobra|| Remote host closed the connection 1144082748 Q * ourseven Remote host closed the connection 1144082889 J * lonewolff lonewolff@adleman.lonewolff.info 1144083090 J * ourseven ~ourseven@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net 1144083638 J * Bernd ~Hans@dslb-084-057-138-240.pools.arcor-ip.net 1144083863 Q * Bernd Quit: Verlassend 1144085189 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1144085214 M * phedny Bertl: :) 1144085238 M * Bertl hey phedny! 1144085305 M * Bertl welcome ourseven! 1144085518 M * phreak`` morning Bertl :) 1144085637 M * Bertl hey phreak``! somehow you got kicked when lilo pulled his prank, yes? 1144085714 M * phreak`` Bertl: nah, seems like the screen session went psycho :) 1144085723 M * Bertl ah, okay ... 1144085736 M * phreak`` or probably the host irssi was running rebooted ;) 1144085780 M * phreak`` _rc15 seems to run quite well :) no sendfile isses so far (and no other of course) :) 1144085787 M * phreak`` *issues 1144085912 M * Bertl good! 1144086019 M * phreak`` hrm, but somehow it don't get any mail of the lkml :| 1144086094 M * Bertl a vserver bug? :) 1144086138 M * phreak`` nope :) but still something pretty wrong 1144087110 P * Dr4g Open Source Development :: http://dynamichell.org 1144087821 Q * FireEgl jupiter.oftc.net venus.oftc.net 1144087821 Q * trash jupiter.oftc.net venus.oftc.net 1144087914 J * FireEgl Atlantica@2001:5c0:84dc:: 1144087914 J * trash trash@databerlin.org 1144088645 M * ray6 reeee... moring Bertl :) 1144088652 M * Bertl hey ray6! 1144088666 M * ray6 heared anything from Jule? 1144088669 A * ray6 not so far 1144088704 M * Bertl nope, nothing here either 1144088967 M * ray6 do you BTW know how clean Vserver and xen patch coexist currently? Anybody using this actively? 1144088991 M * ray6 I patched them together shortly after WTH but xen3 wasn't in a usefull state that time :) 1144089271 M * Bertl well, waldi and kilian are working on that for debian 1144089286 M * Bertl and IIRC somebody else did one not that long ago 1144089288 M * daniel_hozac i haven't had a chance to test my xenU kernels, but they compile. 1144089290 M * ray6 having any difficulties? 1144089300 M * Bertl nope, not as far as I heard 1144089328 M * ray6 daniel: that's about how far I got last time, too :) IIRC one or two things to add to the xen patch and then it compiled clean through 1144089376 M * Bertl should not be any problem, you only need the arch support 1144090304 P * meandtheshell 1144090858 Q * bonbons Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1144091069 J * bonbons ~bonbons@83.222.39.180 1144091125 M * Bertl wb bonbons! 1144091185 M * bonbons Hi Bertl! got disconnected... 1144091831 Q * yarihm Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1144093356 M * Snow-Man uhhh, funny question, but, like, you can't see the IPC stuffs (semaphores, shared memory, etc) across different vservers, can you? 1144093400 J * kir_home ~kir@64.119.159.226 1144093470 Q * kir_home Quit: 1144093572 M * Bertl Snow-Man: no, they are 'isolated' 1144093612 M * Snow-Man Good. Apparently that's not true for FreeBSD 'jails'. 1144093989 M * Snow-Man Wow, that's whacked, apparently that's a 'feature'. 1144094012 M * Bertl well it can be seen as one ... jsut depends on what you want to do 1144094040 M * Snow-Man eh, I think it's either "no sysv inside jail" or "system-wide sysv" 1144094056 M * Snow-Man I wouldn't consider that a feature, more like a work-around for poorly implemented jails. :) 1144094114 J * michal` ~michal@www.rsbac.org 1144094159 M * Bertl welcome michal`! 1144094172 M * matti :) 1144094215 M * Bertl hey matti! 1144094287 M * matti Hello Bertl. 1144094288 M * matti ;] 1144095119 Q * Viper0482 Quit: bin raus, 1144096670 J * nebuchadnezzar ~nebu@zion.asgardr.info 1144096673 Q * Smutje Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1144096679 M * Bertl welcome nebuchadnezzar! 1144096690 M * nebuchadnezzar Bertl: quite a long time ;-) 1144096706 M * nebuchadnezzar I try to use vs2.1.1-rc15 on an UltraSparc 64 1144096716 M * Bertl great! 1144096724 M * nebuchadnezzar I get wait(): No child processes on start 1144096730 M * nebuchadnezzar I found this http://linux-vserver.org/sparc64 1144096741 M * nebuchadnezzar is this always available ? 1144096753 M * Bertl do you plan to do some testing with 64 and 32 bit on that machine? 1144096779 M * Bertl I would be interested in investigating and fixing all sparc related issues but we have no hardware available 1144096780 M * nebuchadnezzar well, 64 bits kernel and 32 bits userspace 1144096818 M * nebuchadnezzar is that ? or do you speak about mixing 32 and 64 bits usersparce ? 1144096820 M * nebuchadnezzar ho 1144096824 M * nebuchadnezzar I run debian 1144096844 M * Bertl well, at least in theory, you can have 64bit userspace with a 64bit kernel too 1144096873 M * Bertl and, by default, the userspace tools expect to be the same as the kernel, otherwise you fall into compatibility mode 1144096886 M * nebuchadnezzar 64 bits userspace is not really usefull, exept for some applications, it's the debian way of doing on sparc64 1144096894 M * Bertl which is also supposed to work quite fine, but as I said, not that much tested 1144096921 M * Bertl you can have 64bit and 32bit guests on such a system 1144096940 M * nebuchadnezzar ok, I want to have juste one debian guest to run for now :-) 1144096959 M * Bertl okay, just asking :) 1144096984 M * Bertl what tools do you use, and when exactly do you get the wait() issue? 1144096992 M * nebuchadnezzar Bertl: but I can make some tests, that's a 2x1.02GHz with 2Go of RAM 1144096998 M * nebuchadnezzar so on more guest is not a problem 1144097045 M * nebuchadnezzar ok, the host is in sid, I use util-vserver 0.30.209-2 from debian, a vanilla 2.6.16 kernel with 2.1.1-rc15 patch 1144097050 M * nebuchadnezzar the guest is sarge 1144097063 M * Bertl okay, let's update the tools first 1144097069 M * nebuchadnezzar (I know normally we do in the inverse way) 1144097077 M * Bertl micah: do we have a shiny9/10 version for debian yet? 1144097106 M * micah Bertl: shiny10 and -rc15 were uploaded into the archive last night 1144097119 M * Bertl great, can you point nebuchadnezzar to them? 1144097132 M * micah Bertl: probably not all mirrors have sync'd it up yet, let me see if I can find it somewhere 1144097145 M * nebuchadnezzar thanks a lot folks to respond so fast and so nicely :-) 1144097158 M * Bertl you are very welcome! 1144097171 M * nebuchadnezzar does it help to see my .config ? 1144097188 M * Bertl not at the moment I guess 1144097196 M * Bertl basically _all_ configs are fine :) 1144097272 M * nebuchadnezzar I wonder about enabling legacy 1144097300 M * Bertl let's see how the 'new' tools do, and what the testme.sh resturns with that 1144097312 M * nebuchadnezzar ok 1144097316 M * Bertl then we look into config and the rest 1144097336 M * nebuchadnezzar I idle 2mn, I need to clean my screen :-/ 1144097379 M * micah ... still looking for a mirror with the updated packages 1144097425 M * micah ah, this is sparc? 1144097445 M * micah I only have i386 right now, the build network isn't that fast 1144097476 M * Bertl source package maybe? 1144097489 M * micah yes, that could be built on a sparc 1144097513 M * micah its here right now: http://people.debian.org/~micah/ 1144097528 M * micah let me see if I can find a sparc box to build a binary 1144097574 M * Bertl I guess nebuchadnezzar will be able to build it, no? 1144097665 Q * lilalinux_ Remote host closed the connection 1144097671 M * nebuchadnezzar I can dpkg-buildpackage 1144097719 M * micah great 1144097730 M * micah nebuchadnezzar: you can get the files from the URL above 1144097833 M * Bertl the testme.sh should? be part of the package, but you can also get it here: 1144097837 M * nebuchadnezzar it's done 1144097851 M * Bertl http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/SCRIPT/testme.sh 1144097886 M * micah Bertl: yes, testme-0.15.sh is part of the package (as is testfs-0.13.sh) 1144097888 M * Bertl upload the output of that one, and the output of 'vserver-info - SYSINFO' somewhere 1144097900 M * Bertl micah: great work! thanks a lot! 1144097924 A * micah sings beetles...its getting better all the time 1144097974 J * mire ~mire@48-166-222-85.COOL.ADSL.VLine.Verat.NET 1144098027 M * Bertl welcome mire! 1144098153 M * nebuchadnezzar ok it's building 1144098289 M * nebuchadnezzar I suppose the warning are ok ? 1144098302 M * nebuchadnezzar :-) 1144098302 M * Bertl most are 1144098317 M * nebuchadnezzar src/rpm-fake.c:481: warning: ISO C forbids conversion of object pointer to function pointer type 1144098360 J * lilalinux ~plasma@dslb-084-058-205-003.pools.arcor-ip.net 1144098372 M * Bertl interesting ... daniel_hozac didn't you hack on that code? any ideas? 1144098389 M * nebuchadnezzar do you need a build log ? 1144098432 M * Bertl doesn't help me, others are doing the tools, but probably it's harmless 1144098527 J * rusty ~djforrada@86.35.124.246 1144098528 M * rusty hello guys 1144098551 M * rusty i want a load the drbd kernel module inside the vserver 1144098554 M * rusty :) 1144098571 M * rusty bardirofs:/# /etc/init.d/drbd start 1144098571 M * rusty Starting DRBD resources: Can not load the drbd module. 1144098571 M * rusty bardirofs:/# modprobe drbd 1144098571 M * rusty modprobe: QM_MODULES: Function not implemented 1144098571 M * rusty modprobe: QM_MODULES: Function not implemented 1144098571 M * rusty modprobe: Can't locate module drbd 1144098581 M * rusty what is the problem? 1144098606 M * rusty is there any working solution for this problem? 1144098652 M * Bertl seems like module loading is either disabled or your tools (module) are too old 1144098652 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1144098663 M * Bertl btw, did you compile the drbd stuff for/into the kernel? 1144098675 M * nebuchadnezzar ok, everything is at http://www.asgardr.info/~nebu/vserver/ 1144098714 M * Bertl great! tx! 1144098761 M * rusty Bertl: i have a newest vserver and drbd 1144098766 M * Bertl nebuchadnezzar: which dietlibc version is taht? 1144098769 M * rusty the drbd is compiled as module in kernel 1144098789 M * Bertl rusty: and did you install the modules? 1144098797 M * rusty which modules? :) 1144098802 M * nebuchadnezzar dietlibc-dev version 0.29-10 from debian sid 1144098812 M * Bertl rusty: well, the drbd for one ... 1144098841 M * Bertl nebuchadnezzar: okay, and now what error do you get when you do what exactly? 1144098851 M * Bertl nebuchadnezzar: btw, the testme and info looks quite fine 1144098867 M * nebuchadnezzar I do a vserver virtual start 1144098877 M * nebuchadnezzar I'll give you the output 1144098887 M * rusty Bertl: i copyied the /lib/modules* to the vserver's directory.. and on "mother" server i can modprobe drbd :) 1144098897 M * Bertl nebuchadnezzar: okay, use --debug too (in a second run) 1144098914 M * Bertl rusty: ahh, you are trying to load the module inside a guest? 1144098919 M * rusty yeah 1144098920 M * rusty :) 1144098923 M * Bertl rusty: that won't work :) 1144098938 M * Bertl rusty: and in general that isn't what you want either 1144098944 M * micah bertl: 0.29-10 dietlibc version incorporates the parisc fixes (FYI) 1144098945 M * nebuchadnezzar http://www.asgardr.info/~nebu/vserver/vserver_start_debug.txt 1144098952 M * Bertl micah: tx 1144098984 M * Bertl rusty: typically you want to place the guests on a drbd device, which you do on the host 1144099264 M * rusty oh i'am stupid 1144099265 M * rusty :( 1144099285 M * Bertl don't worry, folks are too used to vmware and uml stuff 1144099313 M * daniel_hozac nebuchadnezzar: from the shell that you're doing the vserver ... start, what does grep SigIgn /proc/self/status show? 1144099327 M * Bertl nebuchadnezzar: could you just for a test create a new guest with the following commands: 1144099332 M * ray6 Bertl: who lets his UML users load modules?! :) 1144099355 M * nebuchadnezzar Bertl: SigIgn: 0000000000000000 1144099446 M * Bertl vserver sarge01 build -m debootstrap --context 42 -- -d sarge -m ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian 1144099978 Q * lilalinux Remote host closed the connection 1144100022 M * rusty Bertl: bardirofs:/dev# mknod /dev/drbd0 b 147 0 1144100026 M * rusty :( 1144100034 M * rusty is this an another problem?û 1144100044 M * Bertl again inside the guest? 1144100046 M * nebuchadnezzar Bertl: it give me the same with sarge01 1144100062 M * daniel_hozac nebuchadnezzar: what does /usr/sbin/vnamespace --new -- /usr/sbin/vserver ----nonamespace --debug mvirt start say? 1144100066 M * rusty Bertl: yes :) 1144100081 M * Bertl rusty: again, you don't want device nodes inside the guest 1144100099 M * Bertl rusty: you should already have them on the host, just mount the filesystem for the guest 1144100118 M * Bertl then put the guest onto that drbd based filesystem and be done 1144100130 M * nebuchadnezzar daniel_hozac: wait(): No child processes 1144100166 M * rusty can i put "/dev/drbd0" on mother server 1144100169 M * rusty 's fstab? 1144100178 M * Bertl nebuchadnezzar: what about: /usr/sbin/vnamespace --new -- true 1144100185 M * Bertl rusty: yes, for example 1144100203 M * nebuchadnezzar Bertl: the same 1144100226 M * Bertl rusty: or if you like the vserver tools to mount it for you, you can also put it into the fstab in the guest config tree 1144100253 M * Bertl nebuchadnezzar: could you strace -fF that and upload the output too? 1144100266 M * nebuchadnezzar yes 1144100268 M * daniel_hozac vnamespace doesn't use wait(), ever... 1144100283 M * daniel_hozac that must be coming from your shell. 1144100286 M * Bertl maybe a kernel issue 1144100370 M * nebuchadnezzar strace -o vnamesprace.trace -fF /usr/sbin/vnamespace --new -- true ? 1144100378 M * Bertl yep 1144100415 M * doener daniel_hozac: sure it does, in exitLikeProcess 1144100446 M * nebuchadnezzar I need to kill the strace process 1144100460 J * mkhl ~mkhl@200-148-40-113.dsl.telesp.net.br 1144100493 M * nebuchadnezzar Bertl: I get a Zombie vnamespace 1144100500 M * nebuchadnezzar 9131 pts/0 Z+ 0:00 | \_ [vnamespace] 1144102254 M * nebuchadnezzar 1144102257 M * nebuchadnezzar oops 1144102280 M * daniel_hozac can you kill -CONT 19129? 1144102298 M * nebuchadnezzar it does nothing 1144102563 M * nebuchadnezzar snif 1144102593 Q * matta Read error: Connection reset by peer 1144102614 M * nebuchadnezzar if you have some instruction for me to execute, highlight me, I'll do that tomorrow after my work 1144102755 M * Bertl okay, will do so 1144102795 M * nebuchadnezzar If you need a shell account it can be possible 1144102802 M * nebuchadnezzar the machine is not in production 1144102803 M * nebuchadnezzar :-) 1144102871 M * nebuchadnezzar good night 1144103016 M * daniel_hozac good night! 1144103029 M * nebuchadnezzar merci 1144103031 M * nebuchadnezzar oops 1144103032 M * nebuchadnezzar thanks 1144103066 M * nebuchadnezzar ho, does http://linux-vserver.org/sparc64 helps you ? 1144103096 J * mids mids@mids.student.utwente.nl 1144103114 M * Bertl welcome mids! 1144103181 M * mids hi Bertl 1144103255 M * mids been a while; time to take a look at vserver again 1144103420 M * Bertl good 1144107246 M * derjohn daniel_hozac, http://linux-vserver.derjohn.de/bind9-packages/README.txt 1144107375 M * daniel_hozac i've been meaning to do something similar for Fedora. 1144107418 M * derjohn FCE or what was it called :) ? 1144107455 M * daniel_hozac nah, just in my own repo. 1144107476 M * daniel_hozac FYI, the upstream bug number is 15929 1144107533 M * derjohn well, if my packages does what I expect it will do, I may ask one of the DD to make an upload to Debian contrib (or press thumbs that you patch get integrated into Debian ot the upstream - any feedback from there already?) 1144107542 M * derjohn ah, k 1144107748 M * daniel_hozac oh, i did slightly update the patch before submitting it to ISC too, making it a bit more generic. 1144107752 M * daniel_hozac http://daniel.hozac.com/stuff/bind-9.3.2-caps-when-available.patch 1144107793 M * derjohn BTW: Can I see somewhere on the host, if a guest requests a CAPABILITY it doesnt get in some kinf of log? That would be nice in order to follow why things on a guest dont start ... 1144107813 M * daniel_hozac no. 1144107899 M * derjohn argh, I gonnd build the package again. :/ 1144107913 M * derjohn daniel_hozac, did you change the wiki ? 1144107920 M * daniel_hozac no, not yet. 1144107923 M * derjohn (refer to the new patch?) 1144107933 M * derjohn daniel_hozac, TODO ;) 1144107943 M * daniel_hozac i'll do it now while i remember ;) 1144107951 M * derjohn hehe ... 1144108056 M * daniel_hozac there. 1144108129 Q * doener Quit: leaving 1144108140 M * derjohn fine :) 1144108157 M * derjohn I have the change the Debian Bug/Wish ... 1144108171 M * derjohn The new patch really runs cool? 1144108181 M * derjohn tested against both cases? 1144108195 M * daniel_hozac well, i actually don't think i have tested it at all yet. 1144108219 M * daniel_hozac but the old patch worked, and it was more complex than this one ;) 1144108225 M * derjohn but you used the old and new one inside a guest? 1144108245 M * derjohn meaning: You didnt test the new one yet? 1144108268 M * daniel_hozac right. 1144108298 M * daniel_hozac i'll do it right now if i could just find my BIND checkout... 1144108415 M * derjohn i'll build my .deb now and test ;) 1144108720 J * matta ~matta@71.224.125.126 1144108727 M * Bertl wb matta!