1143590556 Q * mkhl Quit: 1143591087 J * comfrey ~comfrey@71-214-82-240.ptld.qwest.net 1143591643 Q * coocoon Quit: KVIrc 3.2.0 'Realia' 1143591815 N * Bertl_oO Bertl 1143591827 M * Bertl back now .. finally .. 1143592099 J * FireEgl Atlantica@Atlantica.US.TO 1143592225 Q * FireEgl Quit: 1143592779 M * Bertl okay, guess I'm off to bed then .. more tomorrow ... 1143592788 M * Bertl have a good whatever everyone ... cya 1143592795 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1143593021 Q * matta Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1143593566 J * alexx ~alexx@proxy.ikse.net 1143594115 M * restill daniel_hozac: Get it all? 1143595044 J * matta ~matta@71.224.125.126 1143595092 Q * comfrey Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1143596674 J * FireEgl Atlantica@Atlantica.US.TO 1143597056 Q * restill Quit: Leaving 1143597555 N * lilo_ lilo 1143597936 Q * GNUcifer Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1143599716 J * Smutje_ ~Smutje@87.78.99.111 1143599822 Q * Smutje Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1143599822 N * Smutje_ Smutje 1143601123 J * Hmmmm ~Hmmmm@221.135.51.19 1143602003 Q * yang Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1143602325 J * matt1 ~matta@71.224.125.126 1143602589 J * yang ~yang@cpe-213-157-253-172.dynamic.amis.net 1143602667 Q * matta Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1143603363 Q * nokoya Read error: Connection reset by peer 1143603421 J * nokoya young@hi-230-82.tm.net.org.my 1143604060 J * virtuoso ~s0t0na@shisha.spb.ru 1143605171 J * matta ~matta@71.224.125.126 1143605634 Q * matt1 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1143605654 Q * matta Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1143605862 J * matta ~matta@71.224.125.126 1143607221 M * micah Hollow: does gentoo automatically set the chroot barrier when you emerge the util-vserver source? Or is it set automatically somehow? 1143608474 M * Hollow micah: no, iirc you have to set it 1143608990 M * micah Hollow: ok, might be good to add that step to this docu: http://dev.croup.de/proj/gentoo-vps/wiki/VserverHowto 1143609030 M * Hollow yeah, the version in the wiki has to be updated anyway.. 1143609038 M * Hollow probably i should just link to the original one 1143609156 M * Hollow fyi: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/vserver-howto.xml 1143609162 M * Hollow the last chapter is new 1143609460 M * micah oh yeah i was just looking at that! :) 1143609540 M * Hollow well, the ebuild tells you to set the barrier.. but you're right.. many people don't read these messages ;) 1143609609 M * micah i was just looking at the debian post installation script and see that it does a setattr --barrier on $VROOTDIR, but i dont think that is even sufficient 1143609626 M * micah because some people will have symlink'd that directory, and doing setattr --barrier on a symlink doesn't set it properly 1143609634 M * Hollow indeed 1143609647 M * Hollow i think it's best to let the user do it 1143609733 M * Hollow in gentoo you can configure the vrootdir during installation.. anyway.. 1143609874 Q * FireEgl Quit: Bye... 1143609907 M * Hollow afk for breakfast 1143613617 Q * Hmmmm Quit: Ex-Chat 1143613897 Q * Dr4g Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1143615133 J * cehteh foobar@cehteh.homeunix.org 1143616923 J * Dr4g ~Dr4g@82-40-202-68.stb.ubr06.uddi.blueyonder.co.uk 1143617788 J * coocoon ~coocoon@p54A05C41.dip.t-dialin.net 1143617795 M * coocoon morning to all 1143621809 Q * Loki|muh Read error: Connection reset by peer 1143621809 Q * pusling Read error: Connection reset by peer 1143621809 J * pusling pusling@195.215.29.124 1143622096 J * Loki|muh loki@satanix.de 1143622501 J * lilalinux ~plasma@80.69.35.186 1143623028 Q * Loki|muh Read error: Connection reset by peer 1143623028 Q * pusling Read error: Connection reset by peer 1143623035 J * Dr4g_ ~Dr4g@82-40-202-68.stb.ubr06.uddi.blueyonder.co.uk 1143623043 J * pusling pusling@195.215.29.124 1143623319 J * Loki|muh loki@satanix.de 1143623497 Q * Dr4g Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1143628190 Q * cehteh Remote host closed the connection 1143628549 J * cehteh foobar@cehteh.homeunix.org 1143628778 Q * Loki|muh Read error: Connection reset by peer 1143628784 J * Dr4g__ ~Dr4g@82-40-202-68.stb.ubr06.uddi.blueyonder.co.uk 1143629054 J * Loki|muh loki@satanix.de 1143629232 Q * Dr4g_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1143630343 Q * doener Quit: leaving 1143631845 J * Cru ~mindwarp@turbodiesel.e.de.wahlich.com 1143631918 M * Cru morning 1143632071 M * Cru I just crashed 2.6.16-vs2.0.2-rc13 by running strace -f on a CentOS Apache - is that a known issue? 1143632084 M * Cru inside a vserver, of course 1143632132 M * Cru I cant try to reproduce this as the system is remote and takes reboot fee 1143632503 J * nsar ~nsar@alasondro.ath.forthnet.gr 1143632510 M * nsar hello 1143632536 M * nsar can i ask help with the vserver project cause it's giving me a strange error complaining about bash 1143632554 M * nsar i am trying to make a test vserver using the fc3 rpm packages localy 1143632831 Q * nsar Quit: 1143633193 Q * coocoon Quit: KVIrc 3.2.0 'Realia' 1143633642 Q * Aiken Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1143634041 M * daniel_hozac Cru: interesting... which CentOS? 1143634085 M * Cru 4 1143634095 M * Cru just posted to the ML 1143634135 M * Cru read there, it is few more detailed 1143634248 M * Cru but I assume this not to be a RH/CentOS specific problem 1143634283 M * Cru this happened after I upgraded the host to vs2 1143634324 M * Cru it was a RH9 guest, held "up to date" with fedoralegacy.org RPMs 1143634400 M * Cru the RH9 system brought up the same behaviour - I first thought this was a NPTL problem and played with LD_ASSUME_KERNEL etc. and upgraded to CentOS after that did not help 1143634646 M * daniel_hozac Cru: you know that -rc14 fixes sendfile, right? 1143634726 M * daniel_hozac btw, have you planned to add FC5 vps-* packages? 1143634727 M * Cru have not checked this, will try later ;) 1143634766 M * daniel_hozac i think i've got diffs somewhere... 1143634777 M * Cru I did not build FC5 guests until now, but I expect the FC4 packages to be working as they are on FC5, too 1143634804 M * Cru are there working FC5 rules for vserver-build? 1143634828 M * daniel_hozac no, the FC4 packages do not work. 1143634843 M * Cru because of networkmanager or sth like that? 1143634868 M * daniel_hozac NetworkManager shouldn't be in the smallest set of packages... i generally remove it from my servers. 1143634879 M * daniel_hozac and i have a patch for FC5. 1143634882 M * daniel_hozac guests and host. 1143634901 M * daniel_hozac http://cvs.hozac.com/viewcvs/*checkout*/util-vserver/fedora-5/util-vserver-0.30.210-fc5.patch?root=rpms&rev=1.7 1143634929 M * Cru ah, okay 1143634949 M * Cru if I get time, I will try it later 1143634971 M * daniel_hozac i guess the gpgkey lines might have to be modified. it's currently a q'n'd hack. 1143634986 M * Cru but I have got another strage problem, maybe you have got an idea what this could be: 1143635013 M * Cru I have a server system running, currently still vs12 on a Debian Woody 1143635047 M * Cru after several months uptime, it started having a huge load 1143635052 M * Cru up to load 170 1143635062 M * Cru but there are no processes running 1143635082 M * daniel_hozac lots of processes in D state? 1143635103 M * Cru CPU time seems to be nearly completely eaten by systime 1143635125 M * Cru even with all vservers stopped and only very few processes running on the host 1143635174 M * Cru I first thought for a kernel rootkit, but the kernel is monolithic and does not even have module support, thus placing a rk would be very hard 1143635194 M * daniel_hozac http://daniel.hozac.com/vserver/vps-dev-fc5.patch http://daniel.hozac.com/vserver/vps-fakepackages-fc5.patch 1143635255 M * Cru I also replaced sshd, bash, procps by clean files but I also found no processes hidden by filtered output 1143635315 M * daniel_hozac that sounds really weird. 1143635320 M * Cru after a few hours, the system worked like this never happened (without reboot) and a day later at different time it started again, even rebooting did not help as it started to continue at once it was up 1143635330 M * Cru it is - I suppose a interrupt problem 1143635337 M * Cru but there is nothing in dmesg 1143635367 M * Cru the interrupt counters do not show problems, too, the CPU is 37° so it is not throttled by the board 1143635434 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1143635438 M * Bertl morning folks! 1143635445 M * Cru morning bertl 1143635455 M * daniel_hozac morning Bertl! 1143635466 M * Cru daniel: you dont have a clue either, right? ;) 1143635481 M * daniel_hozac not really, no. 1143635520 M * Cru I will replace the RAID controller, I think 1143635523 M * Bertl what's the issue in short? 1143635542 M * Cru Bertl: nothing vserver-specific, I assume 1143635555 M * Cru just very weird behaviour of a server system 1143635603 M * Cru it isnt even cheap hardware - it is an Intel entry-level server board, P4-2800 and a 3ware RAID 1143635610 J * restill ~restill@c-24-11-171-10.hsd1.mi.comcast.net 1143635628 N * restill restill-afk 1143635664 M * daniel_hozac Cru: so, can i expect a fc5-vps repo coming soon? :) 1143635721 M * daniel_hozac the patches above makes them work here. 1143635783 M * Cru sure, FC5 is in the pipe, people are currently determining what packages can be removed from the repo as Hans de Goede moved some of them to the Fedora Extras etc. 1143635823 M * Cru the results will be rebuilt and repo will get updated 1143635888 M * Cru it is just device-mapper that needs to be removed? 1143635940 M * daniel_hozac yeah, it's required now. 1143636027 M * Cru what does require it? maybe we shall remove that too - I can not imagine a situation where I may use device-mapper from inside a vserver... 1143636056 M * daniel_hozac e2fsprogs-libs ;) 1143636082 M * Cru uh 1143636093 M * daniel_hozac so no, you don't want to remove that too 1143636116 M * Cru well, one may rebuild the e2fsprogs-libs without that dependency ;) 1143636148 M * daniel_hozac you could also rebuild all the packages depending on it to not do that anymore. 1143636176 M * daniel_hozac doesn't mean that it makes sense :) 1143636217 M * Cru e2fsprogs inside a vserver does not make any sense at all 1143636244 J * mkhl ~mkhl@200-153-181-80.dsl.telesp.net.br 1143636338 M * daniel_hozac yeah, well, libcom_err.so is quite heavily used. 1143636419 M * Cru I meant the progs 1143636470 M * daniel_hozac initscripts requires that. 1143636488 M * Cru could be patched ;) 1143636495 M * Cru thats just for fsck etc. ;) 1143636501 M * daniel_hozac yep. 1143636503 M * Cru okay, forget about that ;) 1143636576 M * Cru http://naturidentisch.de/packages/fc5-vps/ 1143636596 M * Cru ups, forgot to rename the files 1143636620 M * Cru done 1143636787 N * Dr4g__ Dr4g 1143636875 M * daniel_hozac same vps-dev package? 1143636883 M * daniel_hozac that won't work. 1143636900 M * Cru hmm, why? 1143636908 M * daniel_hozac because udev is required. 1143636916 M * daniel_hozac ergo the vps-dev-fc5.patch above. 1143636930 M * Cru ehseems I missed that 1143636933 M * daniel_hozac (along with allowing the package to build as non-root, because, well, who builds as root?) 1143636976 M * Cru we build in vservers ;) 1143637020 M * daniel_hozac as do i, but i still test build things before sending it off to the build system. 1143637273 M * daniel_hozac and wouldn't it be nice to be able to remove that pesky CAP_MKNOD from bcapabilities? 1143637307 J * insomniac ~insomniac@slackware.it 1143637308 M * insomniac hi 1143637312 M * daniel_hozac hello 1143637396 M * Cru you are right, I will use your patch as it is 1143637501 Q * brc_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1143637539 Q * phreak`` Quit: leaving 1143637570 J * phreak`` ~phreak``@134.68.220.30 1143637608 M * Cru daniel: what about "Provides: udev" and preserving udev's directory structure? 1143637828 M * daniel_hozac hmm? 1143637925 M * daniel_hozac initscripts require udev >= 078-1 1143637961 Q * TheSeer Quit: Client exiting 1143637965 M * daniel_hozac and what directory structure are you talking about? 1143638221 M * Bertl welcome insomniac! 1143638332 M * insomniac Bertl: thank you :) 1143638375 M * Cru daniel: sure, but they do not really use udev 1143638383 M * Cru i meant /dev/udev/... 1143638391 M * Cru aeh, /etc/udev/ etc. 1143638410 M * daniel_hozac Cru: i'm not sure i understand what you're getting at. 1143638446 M * daniel_hozac you need to have a versioned provides with a version higher than 078-1. why would you want to provide the directory structure at all? 1143638509 M * Cru okay, I will simply try later 1143638663 J * matt1 ~matta@71.224.125.126 1143639012 Q * matta Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1143639395 M * Cru daniel: I removed vps-dev until I investigated the possibilities 1143639471 Q * Loki|muh Read error: Connection reset by peer 1143639730 J * Loki|muh loki@satanix.de 1143639871 Q * Loki|muh Read error: Connection reset by peer 1143640031 J * Loki|muh loki@satanix.de 1143640182 J * Viper0482 ~Viper0482@p549763A5.dip.t-dialin.net 1143640354 J * coocoon ~coocoon@p54A05C41.dip.t-dialin.net 1143641092 Q * Loki|muh Read error: Connection reset by peer 1143641374 J * Loki|muh loki@satanix.de 1143642311 J * glen_ ~glen@elves.delfi.ee 1143642353 M * glen_ hi. i can't seem to able to specify unlimited openfiles for vserver 1143642385 M * glen_ i should add to rlimits/nofile word 'inf'. right? 1143642490 M * Bertl should be unlimited by default, but 1143642503 M * Bertl usually the host has certain limits (on most distros) 1143642516 M * Bertl and some of them are 'inherited' to the guests 1143642526 M * Bertl what does ulimit -a show on the host` 1143642533 M * Bertl s/`/? 1143642589 M * glen_ well i can do 'ulimit -n unlimited' in host, but not in vserver 1143642651 M * Bertl glen_: that depends on the capabilities you have, but basically what happens if you stop the guest, then do the ulimit -HS -n unlimited and start the guest again? 1143642678 M * Bertl I would assume that your limits inside the guest are lifted after that 1143642687 M * glen_ ahaa. i do this on host: 1143642687 M * glen_ # ulimit -HS -n unlimited 1143642687 M * glen_ bash: ulimit: open files: cannot modify limit: Operation not permitted 1143642712 M * Bertl so probably you hit a kernel limit here too 1143642736 M * Bertl which in turn means that there are only soandso much resources available 1143642753 M * Bertl (note: most of them can be raised via sysctl and/or sysfs) 1143642778 M * glen_ i'll try with numbers. not inifnity 1143642803 M * glen_ oh yeah. nice. worked :) 1143642819 M * Bertl now, if you have your guest auto-started, just make sure 1143642828 M * Bertl to raise the limit in the auto-start script 1143642851 M * Bertl btw, for files probably this one is relevant 1143642859 M * Bertl sysctl fs.file-max 1143642859 M * Bertl fs.file-max = 309910 1143642882 M * Bertl (which seems to be the upper limit on my system :) 1143642931 M * Bertl FYI, the -H or -S mean hard and soft limit 1143642990 M * daniel_hozac Cru: what's wrong with the approach in my patch? do you want udev in your vservers? 1143642995 M * glen_ hmm. looks like the problem is elsewhere. ie samba inside vserver complains via nss_ldap that can't connect to ldap server. so i tought to rise nofile limits 1143643021 M * glen_ but looking at /proc/virtual/.../limit then all limits are infinitive and none of them has been hit 1143643033 M * Bertl glen_: check that the services use the proper IP address 1143643048 M * Bertl glen_: note that 127.0.0.1 will be remapped to the first assigned IP address 1143643072 M * glen_ Bertl: well it works most of the time. so it can't be ip address issue, but rather resource problem. IMHO 1143643089 M * Bertl okay, good point 1143643103 M * glen_ oh, btw. i had this situation 1143643124 M * glen_ that i had configured samba as interfaces = INTERNAL IP, 127.0.0.1 1143643136 M * glen_ and it bound to INTERNAL IP and some random ip, which was PUBLIC IP 1143643162 M * glen_ so its' vserver issue, not samba problem binding to completely wrong when it failed to bind to 127.0.0.1 (as i didn't had that interface in thatr vserver)? 1143643204 J * Smutje_ ~Smutje@xdsl-87-78-18-28.netcologne.de 1143643223 M * glen_ ok. i'l switch my interfaces/0 and 1, so that 0 is internal ip and 1 is public ip, just in case :) 1143643307 Q * Smutje Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1143643307 N * Smutje_ Smutje 1143643410 M * Cru daniel: no, I want to get rid of udev ;) 1143643476 M * daniel_hozac Cru: umm, i don't understand. my patch allows you to get rid of udev. 1143643491 M * Bertl okay, back later ... 1143643520 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1143643672 Q * coocoon Quit: KVIrc 3.2.0 'Realia' 1143644247 Q * matt1 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1143644663 M * Cru daniel: sorry, had only a short look at it, will have a closer look when I am at home 1143645480 J * matta ~matta@c-68-32-239-173.hsd1.pa.comcast.net 1143646540 Q * mkhl Quit: 1143647107 Q * Loki|muh Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1143647160 J * Loki|muh loki@satanix.de 1143647820 Q * Dr4g Quit: Open Source Development :: http://dynamichell.org 1143648609 J * bonbons ~bonbons@83.222.39.180 1143648675 J * FireEgl Atlantica@Atlantica.Tcldrop.Org 1143650196 J * Dr4g ~Dr4g@82-40-202-68.stb.ubr06.uddi.blueyonder.co.uk 1143650218 J * brc_ bruce@20151195198.user.veloxzone.com.br 1143651358 Q * mire Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1143651418 Q * Dr4g Quit: Open Source Development :: http://dynamichell.org 1143651575 Q * cehteh Read error: Connection reset by peer 1143651900 J * mire ~mire@187-166-222-85.COOL.ADSL.VLine.verat.net 1143653014 Q * brc_ Quit: BitchX: the ONLY bug-free client 1143653058 J * brc bruce@20151195198.user.veloxzone.com.br 1143654092 J * liquid3649_ ~Viper0482@p54977771.dip.t-dialin.net 1143654527 Q * Viper0482 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1143655632 J * cehteh foobar@cehteh.homeunix.org 1143656749 N * restill-afk restill 1143657398 J * mkhl ~mkhl@200-148-41-90.dsl.telesp.net.br 1143658162 M * blizz is there a limit on how many ttys a guest can aquire? 1143658261 Q * cehteh Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1143658643 Q * liquid3649_ Quit: bin raus, 1143658833 M * daniel_hozac blizz: /dev/pts/X? not as far as i know. 1143658867 M * blizz mhh nice, thank you 1143659066 Q * mire Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1143659125 J * mire ~mire@187-166-222-85.COOL.ADSL.VLine.verat.net 1143660333 J * dearaujo ~dan@pixpat.austin.ibm.com 1143660374 P * dearaujo 1143660640 J * ensc_ ~irc-ensc@p54B4E695.dip.t-dialin.net 1143660698 N * ensc_ Guest5502 1143660742 Q * ensc Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1143661052 J * Dr4g ~Dr4g@82-40-202-68.stb.ubr06.uddi.blueyonder.co.uk 1143661608 J * prae ~benjamin@sherpadown.net 1143662123 J * coocoon ~coocoon@p54A05C41.dip.t-dialin.net 1143662728 J * dearaujo ~dan@pixpat.austin.ibm.com 1143662814 M * dearaujo can anyone tell me the benefits of NGNET....? 1143662830 M * dearaujo vs the current method (which is...?) 1143662922 M * daniel_hozac seeing how NGNET doesn't currently exist, i guess that's sort of hard to say ;) 1143662935 M * dearaujo :) - let me rephrase 1143662942 M * daniel_hozac but it's meant to be a virtualization of the network stack. 1143662948 M * dearaujo what _will_ the benefits be 1143662964 M * dearaujo sure - but how does that improve the current model? 1143662971 M * daniel_hozac whereas right now guests are just limited to a subset of the IP addresses, and all of the networking happens on the host. 1143662972 M * dearaujo out of curiousity 1143662990 M * daniel_hozac it would, for instance, allow guests to have their own iptables. 1143662996 M * dearaujo ahhhhh 1143663087 M * dearaujo any other benefits? 1143663112 M * dearaujo sorry to prod - curious as to why ppl say OpenVZ has this advantage over Vserver :) 1143663173 M * daniel_hozac maybe you should ask them :) 1143663186 M * matta OVZ has a product to sell :) 1143663192 A * dearaujo heads to the openVZ room... 1143663197 M * daniel_hozac personally, i'm happy with the current networking. 1143663208 M * matta if you go by what they say, they have an advantage over every other competing technology.. 1143663220 M * matta possible. 1143663225 M * dearaujo lol - marketing is everything... 1143663255 M * dearaujo i found networking easier to configure in Vserver... 1143663262 M * dearaujo then with VZ 1143663276 M * dearaujo set up was more direct as well 1143663285 M * dearaujo just my view... 1143663362 J * Aiken ~james@tooax6-226.dialup.optusnet.com.au 1143663936 J * doener ~doener@i5387FC81.versanet.de 1143663997 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1143664301 J * IovaykInD ~IovaykInD@ool-182fa0ea.dyn.optonline.net 1143664315 P * IovaykInD 1143665616 Q * coocoon Quit: KVIrc 3.2.0 'Realia' 1143666259 M * glen_ neat. i was able to make vslogin + nss_vserver working 1143666278 M * glen_ altho i made vslogin executable only vserver group. so it's not so fatal as it's readme says 1143666290 M * glen_ -rwsr-x--- 1 root vserver 7.1K Mar 29 23:59 /sbin/vslogin* 1143666302 M * daniel_hozac what is vslogin? 1143666309 M * glen_ http://linux-vserver.org/HowtoSSHLogin 1143666356 M * glen_ altho it puts weird utmp entry in guest ($VSERVERNAME-$USER), imho should be just $USER: 1143666362 M * glen_ test-roo pts/1 00:05 0.00s ? ? - 1143666654 M * daniel_hozac so, modify it ;) 1143666712 M * glen_ maybe there's good reason for it. i don't know :) 1143666745 M * glen_ i don't yet understand what the gecos field has to do with authentication 1143667322 M * blizz is it possible to set flags and caps without rebooting? :P 1143667552 M * glen_ i noticed that altering interfaces which are nodev, i can enter running vserver with new network settings without rebooting ;) 1143667711 M * doener glen_: yep, but enter _only_, all existing processes still have the old settings 1143667784 M * glen_ yep. but i can restart single procs and they inherit the new ones? 1143667799 M * doener yep, should work 1143668351 J * Dr4g_ ~Dr4g@82-40-202-68.stb.ubr06.uddi.blueyonder.co.uk 1143668374 Q * Dr4g Read error: Connection reset by peer 1143668389 Q * Dr4g_ Read error: Connection reset by peer 1143668406 J * Dr4g_ ~Dr4g@82-40-202-68.stb.ubr06.uddi.blueyonder.co.uk 1143668875 Q * ntrs Quit: Leaving 1143669027 N * restill restill-afk 1143669710 M * bubulak /n 1143669762 Q * sladen Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1143670143 J * sladen paul@starsky.19inch.net 1143670550 M * daniel_hozac glen_: and only with old utils, i.e. util-vserver 0.30.210 won't do that. 1143670597 M * daniel_hozac blizz: yes, see vattribute --help 1143670687 Q * prae Quit: Pwet 1143670762 P * dearaujo 1143671614 Q * bubulak Remote host closed the connection 1143671946 J * bubulak ~bubulak@cicka.wnet.sk 1143673931 Q * matta Ping timeout: 480 seconds