1143504060 M * Bertl okay, off to bed now, please provide more input .. will look into it tomorrow ...
1143504066 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
1143504086 M * brc_ Bertl_zZ: i found that on securityfocus
1143504094 M * brc_ hold
1143504107 M * brc_ i though you knew about it
1143504162 M * brc_ http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/17180
1143504570 J * matti matti@linux.gentoo.pl
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1143505948 J * restill ~restill@c-24-11-171-10.hsd1.mi.comcast.net
1143505975 M * restill daniel?
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1143510665 J * virtuoso_ ~s0t0na@shisha.spb.ru
1143511153 J * matta ~matta@71.224.125.126
1143511404 J * Smutje_ ~Smutje@xdsl-84-44-246-129.netcologne.de
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1143512173 J * Aiken_ ~james@tooax8-045.dialup.optusnet.com.au
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1143530206 J * ||Cobra|| ~cob@pc-csa01.science.uva.nl
1143530916 J * Hollow_ ~hollow@home.xnull.de
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1143533791 J * yarihm ~yarihm@84-74-23-214.dclient.hispeed.ch
1143534114 J * cehteh foobar@cehteh.homeunix.org
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1143534257 J * yarihm ~yarihm@84-74-23-214.dclient.hispeed.ch
1143534575 M * weasel WTF is Oliver Welter and why does he think sending test mails to mailinglists is ok?
1143535209 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1143535213 M * Bertl morning folks!
1143535526 M * Bertl brc_: hmm, doesn't seem relevant to me at all .. first, nobody knows what or how to exploit (except maybe for enrico), second it's fixed since 0.30.210 (which is basically required for all newer releases)
1143535549 M * Bertl (let me rephrase this: nobody know if that can be exploited at all :)
1143537100 M * doener_ I don't even get what the actual problem _might_ be ;)
1143537216 M * Bertl to be honest, I do not get that either, but I guess enrico knows
1143537286 M * Bertl telling from the security awareness Enrico has, I'm pretty sure there is something (theoretically exploitable), and he reported the issue ..
1143537342 M * Bertl very likely related to the unfortunate 'enter' again
1143537387 M * Bertl btw, something which came to my mind recently is, shouldn't we check for non elf executables and such?
1143537494 J * bonbons ~bonbons@83.222.39.180
1143537891 M * doener_ hm?
1143538069 M * Bertl well, the various binary formats ...
1143538106 M * Bertl some of them might actually invoke kernel stuff and/or use different mechanisms, circumventing the virtualization
1143538175 M * doener_ ok, that's sth. I know absolutely nothing about.
1143538342 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving
1143538352 J * bonbons ~bonbons@83.222.39.180
1143538358 M * Bertl wb bonbons!
1143538386 M * bonbons thanks Bertl
1143538937 M * bonbons Bertl: are there some news regarding COW?
1143539056 M * Bertl yes and no ... first, as you discovered, there was a minor bug in the CoW detection
1143539077 M * Bertl i.e. IUNLINK was sufficient, where IUNLINK + IMMUTABLE should have been required
1143539092 M * Bertl (this got fixed in my tree)
1143539135 M * Bertl now, did you upload the strace -fF of the chmod (and maybe touch?) yesterday?
1143539150 M * Bertl had some nasty disconnects, not sure I got everything
1143539274 M * bonbons I pasted results here, but will redo the complete tests (especially regarding IUNLINK [ | INNUTABLE ] part)
1143539325 M * bonbons could you tell me what effect IUNLINK and IMMUTABLE (should) have alone and in combination
1143539348 M * Bertl yes, it is separated in several categories ... 
1143539375 M * Bertl first, IMMUTABLE alone and in combination makes files immutable (i.e. unchangeable)
1143539421 M * Bertl the IUNLINK is an 'extension' flag, which basically 'inverts' immutability on the 'unlink' (rm) operation
1143539467 M * Bertl now, both in combination with a link count > 1 are called unified files
1143539486 M * Bertl this is (should be) also the criterion for CoW links
1143539556 M * Bertl does that clarify things?
1143539596 M * bonbons It clarifies a part, just missing the 'IUNLINK' alone :)
1143539634 M * Bertl well, alone it does the same, it _inverts_ the immutability for unlink
1143539646 M * Bertl so basically it gives you a file you can _change_ but not remove
1143539669 M * bonbons ok
1143539671 M * Bertl (not really used right now)
1143539720 M * bonbons will do some tests based on this and provide you appropriate straces
1143539732 M * Bertl excellent, TIA!
1143539801 M * bonbons I think I will even write a small program which tests all open/chmod/chown/ch... function I think of, kind of test-cow
1143539831 M * Bertl that would be really great!
1143539846 M * Bertl you might want to have a look at this .. *searching*
1143539902 M * Bertl http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/BME/fstest-0.03.tar.bz2
1143540251 M * bonbons should be helpful :)
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1143541215 J * h01ger ~holger@bone.digitalis.org
1143541267 P * h01ger 
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1143542108 J * lilalinux ~plasma@h1-gw.of.net-lab.net
1143543058 J * matta ~matta@71.224.125.126
1143543071 M * Bertl wb matta!
1143543142 J * f_ ~f_@83-215-237-2.seek.stat.salzburg-online.at
1143543149 M * Bertl welcome f_!
1143543164 M * f_ Hello Bertl :)
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1143543506 J * cehteh foobar@cehteh.homeunix.org
1143543840 J * harti ~hw@83-215-237-5.seek.stat.salzburg-online.at
1143543843 M * harti welcome
1143544030 M * Bertl hey harti!
1143544607 Q * Dr4g Quit: Open Source Development :: http://dynamichell.org
1143545568 J * Viper0482 ~Viper0482@p549754EF.dip.t-dialin.net
1143545800 J * bragon ~bragon@sd866.sivit.org
1143546425 J * matt1 ~matta@71.224.125.126
1143546429 M * Bertl wb bragon! matt1!
1143546609 M * matti ;-p
1143546622 M * matti Highlight... ;-p
1143546624 M * matti Hello Bertl :)
1143546722 Q * matta Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1143546747 M * Bertl hey matti!
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1143546977 M * bragon Hello :)
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1143549246 M * Bertl okay, for those who want to play/test, here is the initial version of vcmd (universal vserver syscall test tool) it is supposed to allow to send any supported syscall command with data arguments and evaluate the results ... let me know if you find any bugs
1143549252 M * Bertl http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/TOOLS/vcmd-0.01.tar.bz2
1143549284 M * Bertl (we probably want to compile it with diet too, but I didn't bother yet)
1143549339 J * cryo ~say@217.146.242.85
1143549617 Q * cehteh Quit: Client exiting
1143550376 M * Bertl uhm, as a matter of fact, I should try tools before I publish them :)
1143550485 M * Bertl updated in place with a version which gets the syscall args right :)
1143550521 J * GNUcifer foobar@cehteh.homeunix.org
1143550526 M * Bertl welcome GNUcifer 
1143550531 M * bonbons idea looks good, to be tested :)
1143550566 M * Bertl for example:
1143550569 M * Bertl ./vcmd  -i 2 -dBAC ctx_create -- -- grep  VxID /proc/self/status
1143550660 M * Bertl or maybe this one ...
1143550666 M * Bertl ./vcmd  -i 2 -dBAC ctx_create .flagword=0x0200000010 -- ps auxww
1143550680 M * harry Mar 28 14:57:50 ftpserv nmbd[13957]: [2006/03/28 14:57:50, 0] lib/interface.c:load_interfaces(225)
1143550683 M * harry Mar 28 14:57:50 ftpserv nmbd[13957]:   WARNING: no network interfaces found
1143550685 M * harry what can i do about that?
1143550692 M * harry samba inside a vserver
1143550720 M * Bertl fix nmbd or use old fashioned aliases
1143550727 M * bonbons hm, what is the index (-i)?
1143550728 M * harry how do you do that?
1143550750 M * harry how do you fix nmbd?
1143550759 M * harry or how do i set oldfashioned aliases?
1143550764 M * Bertl bonbons: -h says 'id value' :) it's the vserver argument
1143550780 M * Bertl bonbons: maybe we should rename it to -I or so :)
1143550793 M * Bertl harry: the aliases are simple
1143550813 M * Bertl harry: just stop the guest, add a 'name' entry into each of your interfaces/* dirs
1143550819 M * bonbons but I don't get which ID it is... xid/nid?
1143550840 M * Bertl bonbons: whatever is required, the syscall only has an _id_ argument
1143550844 M * harry Bertl: hmm... no thanks
1143550857 M * harry apparently, just adding the correct netmask did the trick (so not /32) ;)
1143550874 M * Bertl ah, great, so that is a fix to nmbd then
1143550889 M * harry uhu :)
1143550890 M * Bertl (although not to the code itself)
1143550918 M * Bertl ah, found the first 'bug'
1143550933 M * Bertl well, second after the syscall desaster :)
1143550972 M * harry ?
1143550978 M * bonbons ok
1143550988 M * Bertl harry: was @all/bonbons
1143551006 M * harry ah :)
1143551024 M * Bertl bonbons: line 78 actually wants 1LL instead of 1
1143551033 M * Bertl so that the following works too:
1143551038 M * Bertl ./vcmd  -i 2 -dBAC ctx_create .flagword=^33^4 -- ps auxww
1143551175 M * Hollow_ Bertl: here's the exploit info: http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/17178
1143551181 M * Hollow_ ar, crappy nick.. brb
1143551183 Q * Hollow_ Remote host closed the connection
1143551193 J * Hollow ~hollow@home.xnull.de
1143551201 M * Bertl hmm, /nick?
1143551224 M * Hollow well, it's faster, my client does all nickserv things..
1143551287 M * Bertl This issue is exploitable only by local users who have superuser privileges or have the CAP_NET_ADMIN capability.
1143551296 M * Hollow ok
1143551305 M * Bertl so no problem for Linux-VServer here, OpenVZ probably has issues
1143551321 M * Bertl (unless they fixed it beforehand)
1143551942 J * matta ~matta@71.224.125.126
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1143552376 J * id23 ~id@p54A04E61.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
1143552385 M * id23 hi #vserver
1143552388 M * id23 hi Bertl 
1143552397 M * Bertl hey id23!
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1143553748 J * michal` ~michal@www.rsbac.org
1143553915 M * Bertl wb michal`!
1143554388 J * virtuoso_ ~s0t0na@shisha.spb.ru
1143554589 M * Bertl wb virtuoso_!
1143554620 J * matta ~matta@c-68-32-239-173.hsd1.pa.comcast.net
1143554635 N * virtuoso_ virtuoso
1143554639 M * virtuoso Hi Bertl 
1143554896 M * Snow-Man 2.0.2 going to be released sometime? :)
1143555013 M * Snow-Man And has -rc14 been confirmed to fix the sendfile() bug? :)
1143555061 M * Bertl Snow-Man: yes and yes :)
1143555099 M * Snow-Man Bertl: Alright...   Will 2.0.2 be released today? :)
1143555176 M * Bertl nope
1143555180 M * Snow-Man :/
1143555195 M * Snow-Man Guess I'll have to live with -rc14 for a while then. :)
1143555239 M * Bertl hmm, well, maybe rc15 will be there soon :)
1143555277 M * Snow-Man Well, if I'm going to upgrade some servers of mine it has to be done starting in about 12 hours.
1143555297 M * Snow-Man (The production systems are being brought down for a network upgrade so I'm trying to piggyback a kernel upgrade on that downtime)
1143555328 M * Snow-Man Need some time to patch & compile things and get everything prepared, of course.
1143555341 M * Bertl makes sense, let me see what we have in the queue for 2.0.2
1143555347 M * Snow-Man k, thanks.
1143555377 J * Smutje_ ~Smutje@xdsl-84-44-184-45.netcologne.de
1143555394 M * Snow-Man 2.6.16.1 was just released so I was looking to move to that (from 2.6.16-rc4 or so, from back when we thought 2.6.16 would come out before we went live again :)
1143555429 J * Dr4g ~Dr4g@82-40-202-68.stb.ubr06.uddi.blueyonder.co.uk
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1143555483 N * Smutje_ Smutje
1143556149 Q * ||Cobra|| Remote host closed the connection
1143557837 J * FireEgl Atlantica@2001:5c0:84dc::
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1143560622 M * harry anyone here?
1143560651 M * Bertl yup
1143560681 M * harry aha
1143560682 M * bonbons Bertl: I have my test-app + output :) [upload in progress]
1143560686 M * harry how do i start vservers at boot?
1143560692 M * harry what's teh best way to do it?
1143560696 M * harry write a script myself?
1143560705 M * harry some config stuff?
1143560709 M * harry is there something pre-made?
1143560714 M * micah harry: what distro?
1143560723 M * Bertl there are two runlevel scripts packaged and installed with util-vserver
1143560730 M * harry micah: who cares :)
1143560742 M * harry Bertl: aha, what are their names? ;)
1143560750 M * Bertl one is the vservers-default the other vservers-legacy
1143560766 M * Bertl the first one will auto-start all guest with a 'mark' entry of 'default'
1143560788 M * Bertl the second one will start legacy guests (configured for boot)
1143560790 Q * cryo Remote host closed the connection
1143560805 M * micah harry: put the word 'default' in /etc/vservers/<vserver-id>/apps/init/mark
1143560823 M * Bertl yep, that should do the trick with new-style guests
1143560838 M * Bertl micah: tx for saving me the time to lookup the path
1143560861 M * Bertl micah: btw, we should try a few more things on hppa, no?
1143560878 M * micah yeah, I can never remember that full path :)
1143560894 M * bonbons Bertl: http://homepage.internet.lu/BrunoP/vserver/CoW-test for the results (2.6.16rc5-vs2.1.1rc13), source code will go to v-u SVN (src/test subdir)
1143560904 M * Bertl micah: though it makes pretty sense once you read it
1143560910 M * micah Bertl: yes we should do more hppa stuff, when would be a convenient time for you?
1143560937 M * Bertl we could do a few test right now (if you like) and I should have some time later this evening ...
1143560986 M * micah ok, I need about 10 minutes here before I can, but then I'll be able
1143561003 M * Bertl bonbons: looks good, seems you could make some use of the BME teststuff, yes?
1143561015 M * bonbons do you care if I take a few lines from fstest.c? _err_name, err_name(), report()
1143561043 M * Bertl bonbons: no, not at all, it should be GPL, probably just forgot to write that there
1143561098 M * Bertl micah: okay, should be fine, IMHO we have only a few tests left, will install/reboot the new kernel
1143561116 J * GNUcifer foobar@cehteh.homeunix.org
1143561119 A * harry allways pro-newstyle :)
1143561120 M * bonbons Ok :) for now I only test with regular files, maybe a test with fifos, devices and sockets should be added later
1143561141 M * Bertl they are excluded from CoW unification
1143561156 M * Bertl (because that simply doesn't make sense in the first place)
1143561185 M * daniel_hozac restill: sorry, i've been sleeping on and off for the past 24 hours...
1143561188 J * cryo ~say@psoft.user.matrix.farlep.net
1143561199 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: got a cold?
1143561202 M * daniel_hozac restill: i'll start downloading now, if it's ok with you?
1143561221 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: not quite, i was trying to normalize my sleep cycles.
1143561233 M * daniel_hozac but, well, that didn't work :)
1143561253 M * Bertl ah, was just my first idea, because I caught one myself ...
1143561307 M * matta bertl...
1143561311 M * matta you bounce my mail
1143561324 M * matta I had to respond to the OVZ guys regarding their claim about Xen
1143561332 M * matta it means no less love for you :)
1143561337 M * Bertl naah, that's my MTA if ...
1143561366 M * matta <herbert@13thfloor.at>: ncorrectly built binary which accesses errno or h_errno directly. Needs to be fixed. s212.16.62.50 does not like recipient. Remote host said: 450 <unix.easyadmin>: Helo command rejected: Host not found Giving up on 212.16.62.50.
1143561370 M * matta it's my qmail config
1143561374 M * matta oh well, no big deal
1143561384 M * matta i'm sure you'll see the message instead of getting a dupe of it
1143561397 M * matta basically they claimed xen was >20% overhead
1143561400 M * Bertl 450 is temporary, no?
1143561406 M * matta and we know that's not true...
1143561424 M * matta in short:
1143561440 M * matta OVZ claim xen has >20% overhead...
1143561446 M * Bertl but, unix.easyadmin doesn't exist, so most spam filters will block you
1143561446 M * matta I think the Xen guys would disagree with you on this.  Xen claims <3%  overhead on the XenSource site.  Where did you get these figures from?  What Xen version did you test?  What was your configuration? Did you have kernel debugging enabled? You  can't just post numbers without the data to back it up, especially when  it conflicts greatly with the Xen developers statements.  AFAIK Xen is  well on it's way to inclusion into the mainstream
1143561457 M * matta yeah, it's my bad qmail config
1143561475 M * michal` xen is _very_ fast, definitely less than 3% overhead
1143561475 M * matta I also cc'ed xen-devel on my response
1143561484 M * michal` and also very unstable too ;p
1143561488 M * Bertl lol
1143561497 M * matta yeah, but the OVZ guys are so persistent to prove all their methods 'correct'
1143561518 M * matta are they more agreeable with you now bertl or is is you/sam/eric vs ovz ?
1143561531 M * Bertl matta: why not join their IRC channel and tell them that?
1143561558 M * michal` Bertl: does 2.6.16 works for you on powerbook ?
1143561564 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: aren't most of them on here already? :)
1143561579 M * Bertl matta: I don't know, I tried a peace treaty with kir, but not sure it is holding/working ...
1143561587 M * michal` radeonfb is broken again - just like it was with 2.6.14 but in another way ;]
1143561596 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: atm, I don't think so ...
1143561603 M * matta I think OVZ is still good software, as long as they maintain it themselves... I see nothing but fighting on the public lists
1143561608 M * Bertl michal`: well, I have a patch now :)
1143561615 M * michal` expect problems ;]
1143561628 M * Bertl michal`: powerbook working fine here
1143561641 M * michal` btw, oldconfig wasn't able to figure out all differences, what has caused its ownn set of problems
1143561666 M * michal` from what i've been told from eysterday, some PB's works, some cannot boot, gues where i am ;p
1143561684 M * Bertl what issues do you see with the pb?
1143561714 M * Bertl for the radeonfb stuff search lkml for 'funny framebuffer fonts on PowerBook'
1143561725 M * michal` linux kernel (after setting framebuffer) cannot switch to it, hence i'm freezed into that white screen just before switching into linux output
1143561735 M * michal` open firmware fb seems to be working
1143561748 M * Bertl ah, okay, then this is definitely different
1143561750 M * michal` ppckernel-dev already got info about that and it was confirmed
1143561757 M * michal` yes, seen that thread !
1143561796 J * doener ~doener@i5387FF2F.versanet.de
1143561826 M * Bertl welcome doener!
1143561842 M * doener hey Bertl 
1143561865 Q * doener_ Killed (NickServ command used by doener)
1143561879 M * michal` hey doener oryginal :]
1143561886 M * michal` and gobye doener clone ;]
1143562023 M * bonbons Bertl: bug in test-app => new output (still missing a check for appearing ${X}? files)
1143562514 Q * Dr4g Quit: Open Source Development :: http://dynamichell.org
1143562617 M * Bertl bonbons: yeahm you should remove the \0251 files before each test
1143562649 M * Bertl bonbons: and check for them afterwards (max 16 possible for now) they are not supposed to remain
1143562655 J * Dr4g ~Dr4g@82-40-202-68.stb.ubr06.uddi.blueyonder.co.uk
1143562660 M * bonbons Yep, but they are also created by the tests <- therefore the required test!
1143562663 M * Bertl i.e. any such file is some kind of error
1143562677 M * Bertl s/error/bug
1143562677 M * michal` http://lkml.org/lkml/2006/3/24/202
1143562690 M * michal` ^^ virtualisation talk or will it become just a flame ?
1143562749 M * Bertl can become anything :)
1143562821 M * micah Bertl: ok, I'm ready to do some more hppa!
1143562837 M * michal` micah: are you hppa hardware man ?
1143562837 M * Bertl still fighting with the parisc ... btw
1143562844 M * micah michal`: definately not
1143562855 M * michal` isn't hppa == parisc ?
1143562857 M * Bertl michal`: the debian 'install scripts' for the kernel seem very bogus
1143562873 J * coocoon ~coocoon@p54A05D73.dip.t-dialin.net
1143562878 M * michal` definitely not sth to relay on...
1143562879 M * coocoon hello to all
1143562880 M * micah michal`: yes, but I do not know hppa/parisc very well at all, I'm just helping bertl test
1143562884 M * Bertl Checking for ELILO...No
1143562886 M * michal` i see
1143562888 M * Bertl Checking for LILO...No
1143562894 M * Bertl Should I make a bootdisk? (y/N) 
1143562898 M * michal` :P
1143562910 M * Bertl neither of those have I seen on parisc lately :)
1143562926 M * SiD3WiNDR on sparc there is no make install :)
1143562953 M * michal` feel free to shoot me, but if someday you could test rsbac (i'll assist, provide patch, instruction,s whatever) on this hardware ... ? ;]
1143563014 M * Bertl michal`: sparc or parisc?
1143563021 M * michal` the only non x86/x86_64 hardware we've got to test on was just the one i've managed to find (mips once and ppc daily)
1143563034 M * michal` both of them if possible
1143563042 M * michal` the only sparc i've got was broken actualy :/
1143563081 M * Bertl well, I have a parisc (hppa) here, it's just not easily accessible
1143563103 M * michal` (we have nice hppa and sparcs and even zSeries on my university, but they prefer to let them stay untouched than for example gimme one day access)
1143563108 M * Bertl but I'm trying to move it somewhere to make it more accessible
1143563110 M * michal` even as/400 ;p
1143563123 M * michal` ok, nothing urgent, when it will be we might try
1143563145 M * michal` since anything can happen during boot or later, it is important to have hardware close
1143563167 M * Bertl michal`: not for the parisc, it has a complete service monitor
1143563175 M * Bertl i.e. remote console and power management
1143563177 M * michal` nice thing
1143563189 M * michal` well, it was just designed to be a server
1143563248 M * Bertl I have no sparc and mips atm, x86_64 sometimes
1143563255 M * michal` i have tested on mips
1143563264 M * michal` we've found out some problems and fixed them
1143563271 M * michal` plenty of hardware on mit ;]
1143563278 M * michal` and i know some man from mit
1143563279 M * Bertl Greek0: was doing test on mips
1143563285 M * Bertl *tests
1143563299 M * michal` so he was bringing various machines to his house and testing on it ;p
1143563335 M * Bertl we should definitely share resources for testing here
1143563358 M * michal` great idea, for most projects hardware resources are the problem
1143563361 M * Bertl well, I'm still looking forward to the rsbac/pax/vserver kernels
1143563383 M * Bertl Linux parisc 2.6.16-pa5-vs2.1.1-rc14 #1 SMP Sat Mar 25 23:56:58 CET 2006 parisc64 GNU/Linux
1143563387 M * Bertl btw :)
1143563392 M * michal` i've got a new disk and plenty of space for linux so will try :]
1143563401 M * michal` nice
1143563443 M * michal` ok, have to run now, but will ping you about that idea later
1143563497 M * Bertl okay, great!
1143563521 M * Bertl michal`: okay, 11 still fails, but that's something related to the machine/env/userspace tools as it seems
1143563995 J * shedi ~siggi@inferno.lhi.is
1143564021 M * Bertl hey great, the vcmd tool works out-of-the-box on parisc :)
1143564216 M * bonbons Bertl: new output with notification about those 'bug'-files
1143564229 Q * coocoon Quit: KVIrc 3.2.0 'Realia'
1143564371 M * restill daniel?
1143564758 M * Hollow dum di dum :)
1143564868 M * Bertl bonbons: okay, seems to match my tests so far, tx, ah, when/where is the tool available?
1143564954 M * micah Hollow: I'm wondering what sorts of user-space tweaks you've done to util-vserver
1143565172 M * Hollow hm?
1143565546 M * micah Hollow: oh I'm just looking for what sorts of things gentoo has done for userspace
1143565668 M * Hollow ah, the patches..?
1143565946 M * bonbons Bertl: binary: http://homepage.internet.lu/BrunoP/vserver/cow    source: v-u 1.0.4 branch
1143565960 M * micah hollow: well, I am not sure what the patches are, thats why I'm asking :)
1143566046 M * Bertl bonbons: that's not a good url for me :/
1143566055 M * Hollow micah: http://dev.croup.de/proj/gentoo-vps/browser/util-vserver/patches
1143566345 M * Hollow bonbons, daniel_hozac: FYI: i have just commited a a whole bunch of basic xmlrpc and httpd stuff to vserver-utils trunk
1143566365 M * Hollow see also http://phpfi.com/109826
1143566377 M * Bertl okay, back later ... cya
1143566383 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
1143566483 Q * FireEgl Quit: Bye...
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1143567678 J * liquid3649_ ~Viper0482@p549763A5.dip.t-dialin.net
1143567772 M * daniel_hozac restill: pong
1143567854 J * Loki|muh loki@satanix.de
1143568127 Q * Viper0482 Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1143568133 J * lilo_ ~lilo@lilo.usercloak.oftc.net
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1143570466 M * phedny I read about a fake uptime thingy, but it doesn't seem to be enabled by default
1143570477 M * phedny also I cannot seem to find how to enable it
1143570526 M * eyck wtf....
1143570527 M * eyck Warning: Executing wildcard deletion to stay compatible with old scripts.
1143570545 M * eyck ... and then it deletes my main interface and cuts me off from remote machine....
1143570560 M * eyck ...and that is not a very bright/smart behaviour
1143570564 M * eyck ..i think...
1143570797 M * doener eyck: the message is because util-vserver does "ip addr del x.x.x.x" without specifying a prefix... iproute doesn't like that anymore
1143570852 M * doener but usually it only deletes an address that actually fits the x.x.x.x part... it's just that when you have 1.2.3.4/8 and 1.2.3.4/24, a random one is chosen for deletion
1143570895 Q * pusling Read error: Connection reset by peer
1143570968 M * eyck hmm, 
1143570977 M * eyck but why does it delete the address????
1143570994 M * eyck I usually have 2-3 vservers sitting on one address... 
1143571008 M * eyck stopping one kills off the others? by design?
1143571051 M * SiD3WiNDR since when can servers share an ip address? :p
1143571058 M * eyck since forever
1143571088 M * eyck and new-ng-networking was supposed to improve the situation even further
1143571090 M * SiD3WiNDR methinks it will generate quite a bunch of problems on your network if 2 macs are advertised for the same ip address
1143571103 M * SiD3WiNDR do note I said servers, not vservers
1143571123 M * eyck are you sure you know what you're talking about?
1143571126 M * SiD3WiNDR yes.
1143571130 M * eyck check again.
1143571141 M * eyck ...and now? are you sure?
1143571142 M * SiD3WiNDR !!!!!!!!!
1143571151 M * SiD3WiNDR yes.
1143571156 M * eyck oh my...
1143571163 M * eyck this is going to take a loooong time...
1143571178 M * eyck so, let's start from the beggining...
1143571186 M * SiD3WiNDR noone asked for an explanation you know
1143571203 M * eyck  for what?
1143571222 M * daniel_hozac eyck: touch /etc/vservers/<name>/interfaces/*/nodev
1143571246 M * eyck daniel_hozac: ok, what will that do?
1143571265 M * daniel_hozac it will disable the address addition/removal.
1143571308 M * eyck well...
1143571319 M * eyck now I've got no networking in vserver..
1143571389 M * eyck OK, it works. thanks.
1143571561 J * pusling pusling@195.215.29.124
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1143572734 Q * liquid3649_ Quit: bin raus, 
1143573264 M * daniel_hozac restill: i can't connect.
1143573642 J * SamiiR ~Who@host-84-9-61-51.bulldogdsl.com
1143573651 P * SamiiR 
1143573871 J * Viper0482 ~Viper0482@p549763A5.dip.t-dialin.net
1143574246 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p54B4D21B.dip.t-dialin.net
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1143574405 J * shedi ~siggi@dsl-220-183.hive.is
1143576568 Q * Viper0482 Quit: bin raus, 
1143576987 M * bonbons Bertl_oO: URL to source: http://dev.croup.de/proj/vserver-utils/browser/branches/1.0.4/src/test/cow.c (uses ./test.h and libvserver). The binary URL works for me
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1143577501 J * pusling pusling@195.215.29.124
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1143578817 J * comfrey ~comfrey@71-214-82-240.ptld.qwest.net
1143580091 Q * matta Read error: Connection reset by peer
1143580105 J * matta ~matta@c-68-32-239-173.hsd1.pa.comcast.net
1143581084 M * restill checking
1143581678 Q * restill Ping timeout: 480 seconds
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1143582063 M * doener did you use the same source directory as before? if so, please do "make maintainer-clean" and "autoreconf -fi", then try to configure again
1143582068 M * doener sorry...
1143582227 J * Aiken ~james@tooax6-119.dialup.optusnet.com.au
1143582247 J * restill ~restill@c-24-11-171-10.hsd1.mi.comcast.net
1143582580 J * bragon ~bragon@sd866.sivit.org
1143582904 M * daniel_hozac restill: any chance you could build util-vserver-0.30.210-10.fc4 too?
1143583076 M * daniel_hozac restill: and possibly the FC5 packages?
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1143583960 J * _nokoya young@hi-230-82.tm.net.org.my
1143584088 J * bragon ~bragon@194.242.113.96
1143584186 Q * k3mper jupiter.oftc.net quasar.oftc.net
1143584186 Q * nokoya jupiter.oftc.net quasar.oftc.net
1143584186 Q * sladen jupiter.oftc.net quasar.oftc.net
1143584186 Q * mef jupiter.oftc.net quasar.oftc.net
1143584186 Q * anonc jupiter.oftc.net quasar.oftc.net
1143584186 Q * mugwump jupiter.oftc.net quasar.oftc.net
1143584190 N * _nokoya nokoya
1143584204 J * sladen paul@starsky.19inch.net
1143584204 J * k3mper ~maio@mail.progamers.cz
1143584217 J * mugwump ~samv@watts.utsl.gen.nz
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1143584870 J * mef ~mef@targe.CS.Princeton.EDU
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1143585349 J * coocoon ~coocoon@p54A05D73.dip.t-dialin.net
1143585353 M * coocoon hello
1143585369 M * harry yoew
1143585511 J * rusty ~rusty@rev.193.226.233.193.euroweb.hu
1143585524 M * rusty hello guys
1143585545 M * rusty is there stable vserver patch for linux kernel 2.6.16? :)
1143585578 J * bragon ~bragon@sd866.sivit.org
1143585590 Q * lilalinux Remote host closed the connection
1143586540 M * daniel_hozac rusty: there's 2.0.2-rc14.
1143586623 M * rusty thanks
1143586887 M * rusty :)
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