1142899613 J * lilalinux__ ~plasma@dslb-084-058-194-207.pools.arcor-ip.net
1142900033 Q * derjohn Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1142900049 J * derjohn ~derjohn@dslb-084-058-194-207.pools.arcor-ip.net
1142900053 Q * lilalinux_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1142900849 Q * harry Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1142900982 Q * cehteh Remote host closed the connection
1142901072 J * cehteh foobar@cehteh.homeunix.org
1142901113 M * cehteh mhm i should add this network/channel to my bouncer when experimenting with X-drivers and restarting the client often :P
1142901132 M * Bertl might help :)
1142901148 M * cehteh well .. i think i am finished for now
1142902831 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: when are you supposed to use system_utsname vs. vx_new_uts(name)?
1142902947 M * daniel_hozac kernel space/messages vs. userspace?
1142903041 A * Bertl is waiting for cscope to get the index done ...
1142903053 M * coocoon good night to all 
1142903059 M * Bertl night coocoon!
1142903080 Q * coocoon Quit: KVIrc 3.2.0 'Realia'
1142903178 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: well, vx_new_utsname is the virtualized version, it should be used where guests can access/receive data
1142903192 M * daniel_hozac right.
1142903221 M * Bertl vx_new_uts(x) is a macro for accessing substructs there
1142903251 M * Bertl so, in general, all kernel log messages do not need that, unless they would go to the virtual syslog
1142903299 M * Bertl all syscall and sequencer printfs which produce userspace output should use the virtualized versions
1142903330 M * daniel_hozac that's what i thought.
1142903420 M * Bertl okay, do we get that wrong somewhere?
1142903699 M * daniel_hozac hmm, fs/exec.c:format_corename
1142903836 M * doener_ in sound/core/info_oss.c, arch/xtensa/kernel/syscalls.c and a bunch of those sys_{sunos,sh,...}.c files system_utsname parts might get into userspace... (2.0.2-rc12, but I guess nothing changed there in the more recent rcs)
1142903867 M * Bertl hmm, right, sounds like we should add a few macros there
1142903906 M * Bertl (that was regarding coredump)
1142903912 P * matta 
1142903917 M * doener_ thought so ;)
1142905222 Q * flock Remote host closed the connection
1142905542 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: isn't 2.6.16-vs2.1.1-rc13 missing #include <linux/vs_pid.h> in kernel/timer.c?
1142905602 M * daniel_hozac hmm, no... i wonder why that wasn't applied.
1142905648 M * daniel_hozac oh, i see. nevermind.
1142905659 M * Bertl np
1142905679 N * doener_ doener
1142905738 F * ChanServ +o doener
1142905747 F * ChanServ -o doener
1142907948 M * doener Bertl: btw, what do you think about using configfs for Linux-VServer? good/bad/useless/plain stupid?
1142908099 M * Bertl thought about it some time ago .. haven't had a deeper look though
1142908143 Q * gerrit Read error: Operation timed out
1142908228 M * doener I'll try have mess around with it then... maybe I'll manage to blow it up :)
1142908239 M * doener that's for later though... off to bed now
1142908243 M * doener good night!
1142908247 M * Bertl okay, have a good one too!
1142908259 Q * doener Quit: leaving
1142908746 J * matta ~matta@71.224.125.126
1142908858 J * matt1 ~matta@71.224.125.126
1142909248 Q * matta Read error: Operation timed out
1142911334 J * harry ~harry@d515321D1.access.telenet.be
1142911447 Q * tokkee jupiter.oftc.net keid.oftc.net
1142911447 Q * SiD3WiNDR jupiter.oftc.net keid.oftc.net
1142911447 Q * waldi jupiter.oftc.net keid.oftc.net
1142911447 Q * Hunger jupiter.oftc.net keid.oftc.net
1142911610 J * Hunger Hunger.hu@Hunger.hu
1142911610 J * tokkee tokkee@casella.verplant.org
1142911610 J * SiD3WiNDR luser@bastard-operator.from-hell.be
1142911610 J * waldi ~waldi@bblank.thinkmo.de
1142912033 J * jufo jufo@ZYYYMKCCLV.dsl.saunalahti.fi
1142912069 M * jufo hello do you have any stats about how many small vservers you can run on one fast hardware?
1142912090 M * Bertl hey jufo!
1142912127 M * Bertl well, we have some 'older' results where lycos did succeed putting more than 150 'working' guests on a dual PIII box, IIRC
1142912160 M * Bertl while still having good response times inside the guests
1142912164 M * cehteh that is just *very* dependant of the actual usage and hardware
1142912164 M * jufo ok something like 100+ on new pretty good hardware is "ok"
1142912182 M * jufo what kind of loads did they have
1142912195 M * Bertl yes, for example folks who are doing game servers have stopped around 15-20 guests max
1142912223 M * cehteh databases, PHP and other active content engines drain CPU
1142912237 M * Bertl if you use a minimalistic guest (i.e. sshd only for example) I'd say you can reach around 500 guests :)
1142912252 M * cehteh if you just serve static pages there should be no problem
1142912268 M * Bertl and it's not only CPU usage, much more important is memory and disk I/O
1142912273 M * cehteh yeah
1142912357 M * cehteh with actual dual, quad or more processors .. decent hardware raid and some tens of GB ram it could be even more than 500 i think
1142912374 M * cehteh but at some point such wont really make sense anymore
1142912405 M * cehteh better use more smaller machines then you also can get failover capabilities
1142912441 M * jufo yep good hardware is a key for success
1142912456 M * Bertl good kernel and driver tuning too :)
1142912468 M * jufo ok thanks for the info, i must go now ZzZ
1142912474 M * Bertl k, cya!
1142912487 Q * Dr4g_ Read error: Connection reset by peer
1142914054 Q * harry Read error: Operation timed out
1142915680 Q * lilalinux__ Remote host closed the connection
1142916790 J * harry ~harry@d515321D1.access.telenet.be
1142918079 Q * matt1 Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1142918773 Q * brc_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1142919048 Q * nokoya Read error: Connection reset by peer
1142919058 J * nokoya young@hi-230-82.tm.net.org.my
1142920083 J * DataCompBoy ~datacompb@217.8.236.1
1142920089 M * DataCompBoy Hello again! :)
1142920132 M * DataCompBoy People, give me again URL to howto configre vserver to share IP of host?
1142920418 M * cehteh if you dont configure an ip, then the root host's ip is used if you mean that
1142920429 M * Bertl works out of the box, but probably you just want to share/redirect certain ports 
1142920464 M * Bertl i.e. redirect port 8080 to guest X port 80 or so
1142920638 M * Bertl anyway, I'm off to bed now ... so have fun and cya tomorrow!
1142920644 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
1142920677 Q * tokkee helium.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1142920677 Q * SiD3WiNDR helium.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1142920677 Q * waldi helium.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1142920677 Q * Hunger helium.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1142920677 Q * DataCompBoy helium.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1142920677 Q * cehteh helium.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1142920677 Q * derjohn helium.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1142920677 Q * lonewolff helium.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1142920677 Q * k3mper helium.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1142920677 Q * shuri helium.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1142920677 Q * Greek0 helium.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1142920677 Q * mkhl helium.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1142920677 Q * ntrs_ helium.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1142920677 Q * Wonka helium.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1142920677 Q * yang helium.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1142920677 Q * alexx helium.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1142920677 Q * click helium.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1142920677 Q * SNy helium.oftc.net arion.oftc.net
1142920744 J * DataCompBoy ~datacompb@217.8.236.1
1142920744 J * waldi ~waldi@bblank.thinkmo.de
1142920744 J * SiD3WiNDR luser@bastard-operator.from-hell.be
1142920744 J * tokkee tokkee@casella.verplant.org
1142920744 J * Hunger Hunger.hu@Hunger.hu
1142920744 J * cehteh foobar@cehteh.homeunix.org
1142920744 J * derjohn ~derjohn@dslb-084-058-194-207.pools.arcor-ip.net
1142920744 J * lonewolff lonewolff@adleman.lonewolff.info
1142920744 J * k3mper ~maio@mail.progamers.cz
1142920744 J * shuri ~shuri@64.235.209.226
1142920744 J * Greek0 ~greek0@85.255.145.201
1142920744 J * mkhl ~mkhl@200-148-41-221.dsl.telesp.net.br
1142920744 J * ntrs_ ~ntrs@68-188-37-15.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com
1142920744 J * Wonka produziert@chaos.in-kiel.de
1142920744 J * yang ~yang@cpe-213-157-253-172.dynamic.amis.net
1142920744 J * alexx ~alexx@proxy.ikse.net
1142920744 J * click click@ti511110a080-3151.bb.online.no
1142920744 J * SNy 731e95ba45@bmx-chemnitz.de
1142920751 Q * SiD3WiNDR Remote host closed the connection
1142920771 J * SiD3WiNDR luser@bastard-operator.from-hell.be
1142920829 M * DataCompBoy wow! cewl split:)
1142922224 J * gerrit ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1142924072 J * Dr4g ~Dr4g@82-40-44-47.cable.ubr06.uddi.blueyonder.co.uk
1142924923 J * coocoon ~coocoon@p54A06358.dip.t-dialin.net
1142924935 M * coocoon good morning to all
1142924986 M * DataCompBoy Morning, coocoon!
1142925083 M * phedny morning :)
1142925356 M * Soekris morning
1142925630 M * coocoon soekris: morning what will u do with zimbra
1142925796 M * Soekris Hosting my mail
1142925832 M * Soekris Zimbra is a realy great mail solution. Supper flexeble 
1142925858 M * coocoon i have seen that they also have a "administering a user account" right
1142925864 M * Soekris verry nice layout and to manage but is verry havvie
1142925875 M * DataCompBoy Soekris: why not exim? with vexim?
1142925897 M * DataCompBoy I have set up yesterday exim+vexim+dovecot -- and very happy now :)
1142925906 M * Soekris DataCompBoy: that are mail servers. this is messaging solution. with a nice gui
1142925915 M * Soekris DataCompBoy: see the flash on the www.zimbra.com
1142925932 M * Soekris shared calander enz 
1142925933 M * DataCompBoy vexim with nice gui too :D
1142925941 M * DataCompBoy + openwebmail -- so its going great!
1142925954 M * Soekris zimbra is more like exchange
1142926001 M * Soekris I you get a phone number in youre schreen. zimbra reconice that and when you clik you dialing that number white your voip/softphone
1142926043 M * Soekris But is kind hard to install :D
1142926110 M * coocoon ah ok, i have heard from it a n few days ago
1142926114 M * coocoon thanx
1142926168 M * Soekris The extral zimlets are cool. you can program them and you got additional functionality on you're sever
1142926171 M * Soekris server
1142926309 M * Soekris i go to work tjow
1142926319 M * Soekris ore brb
1142926416 M * coocoon ciao
1142927648 M * Soekris hello
1142927668 M * DataCompBoy :) welcome back!
1142928316 J * ||Cobra|| ~cob@146.50.22.204
1142929593 J * ntrs__ ~ntrs@68-188-37-15.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com
1142929713 Q * ntrs_ Read error: Connection reset by peer
1142929723 Q * mkhl Read error: Connection reset by peer
1142929750 J * DataCompBoy2 ~datacompb@217.8.236.1
1142929868 Q * DataCompBoy Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1142930265 J * KLFMANiK ~mann@people.uvt.tuke.sk
1142930291 Q * michal` Quit: kernel update
1142930394 Q * shedi Quit: Leaving
1142931158 Q * harry Read error: Operation timed out
1142931489 M * waldi daniel_hozac: the debian packages includes one
1142932552 M * Soekris  su - zimbra
1142932553 M * Soekris could not open session
1142932562 M * Soekris Knows some where where i must search
1142932623 M * DataCompBoy2 google don't know
1142932633 M * DataCompBoy2 getent passwd zimbra
1142932635 M * DataCompBoy2 getent shadow zimbra
1142932640 M * DataCompBoy2   -- does that works?
1142932642 M * Soekris getent ?
1142932653 M * DataCompBoy2 yes, you have it :)
1142932707 M * Soekris i don't have shadow
1142932723 M * DataCompBoy2 only passwd?
1142932731 M * DataCompBoy2 you have disabled shadows in system?
1142932757 M * Soekris I have done nothing. But i wil look if i can in stall it.
1142932768 M * Soekris install it
1142932778 M * DataCompBoy2 have your passwd line looks like
1142932783 M * DataCompBoy2 zimbra:x:....
1142932784 M * DataCompBoy2 or
1142932789 M * DataCompBoy2 zimbra:bla-bla:....
1142932790 M * DataCompBoy2 ?
1142932809 M * Soekris zimbra:!!:500:500::/opt/zimbra:/bin/bash
1142932841 M * DataCompBoy2 grep zimbra /var/log/auth.log | tail -n 3
1142932855 J * mkhl ~mkhl@200-148-41-221.dsl.telesp.net.br
1142932900 M * Soekris I don't have auth.log
1142932912 M * DataCompBoy2 then, check messages
1142932919 M * Soekris zimbra su(pam_unix)[23618]: session opened for user zimbra by (uid=0)
1142932938 M * DataCompBoy2 :[ ]
1142932944 M * DataCompBoy2 why, then, "could not open session" ?!
1142932957 M * Soekris I don't know. 
1142932991 M * DataCompBoy2 su - zimbra -c id
1142933022 M * Soekris id is 500 ?
1142933032 M * DataCompBoy2 no, "id" as word.
1142933039 M * Soekris su - zimbra -c id
1142933040 M * Soekris could not open session
1142933056 M * Soekris 21 04:23:50 zimbra su(pam_unix)[23729]: session opened for user zimbra by (uid=0)
1142933063 M * Soekris yes the time is not write
1142933086 M * Soekris not good
1142933415 M * DataCompBoy2 i'm pass...
1142933422 M * Soekris :(
1142933462 M * DataCompBoy2 agh!try su - zimbra -s /bin/zsh
1142933597 M * DataCompBoy2 and check 'getent group 500'
1142933672 J * shedi ~siggi@tolvudeild-200.lhi.is
1142933811 M * DataCompBoy2 people, who what frontend server use for vservers' web?
1142933819 M * DataCompBoy2 nginx? pound? squid? apache?
1142933846 Q * shedi Quit: 
1142933919 M * mnemoc pound here
1142933936 M * DataCompBoy2 have you tried others? why selected pound?
1142933976 M * mnemoc because it's light, handles the SSL it self and works like a charm :)
1142933990 M * DataCompBoy2 nginx
1142933995 M * mnemoc on one case i have squid between the pound and the application server
1142934008 M * mnemoc i haven't tried nginx
1142934077 M * mnemoc apache is a fat cow
1142934101 M * mnemoc and squid is only useful if you want cache
1142934150 M * DataCompBoy2 yes, using apache for only proxy is not good...
1142934154 M * mnemoc pound (and maybe nginx) fit perfectly on my lighweight (pure dietlibc) host 'OS'
1142934169 M * mnemoc neither squid for only proxing
1142934179 M * DataCompBoy2 why not lighttpd ?
1142934192 M * mnemoc i have lighttpd on a few *guests*
1142934198 M * mnemoc to run PHP stuff
1142934225 M * DataCompBoy2 you thing lighttpd better than apache ?
1142934252 M * mnemoc depends on the goal
1142934277 M * mnemoc fo static i use gatling, for php lighttpd and for the rest apache
1142934304 M * DataCompBoy2 dynamic site with only php and static
1142934312 M * mnemoc lighttpd
1142934320 M * DataCompBoy2 why?
1142934325 N * DataCompBoy2 DataCompBoy
1142934333 M * DataCompBoy i
1142934336 M * mnemoc performance
1142934341 M * DataCompBoy i'm new to apache-alternatives
1142934345 M * mnemoc and weight
1142934348 M * DataCompBoy :)
1142934360 M * mnemoc apache is to heavey for such a simple task
1142934370 M * DataCompBoy does i'm will lost something on move to lighttpd?
1142934397 M * mnemoc depends on how complex your apache configuration is
1142934449 M * DataCompBoy mod_rewrite in generic
1142934529 M * mnemoc uhm
1142934560 J * shedi ~siggi@tolvudeild-200.lhi.is
1142934568 M * mnemoc lighttpd has it's own rewrite module
1142934582 M * mnemoc but it's not much like apache's
1142934588 M * DataCompBoy incompatible?
1142934615 M * DataCompBoy I'm want to move several services with minimal requirements of hands
1142934645 M * mnemoc i guess on the rewrites you would need to invest a bit more
1142934663 M * mnemoc but placing pound on front you can do that smoother
1142934716 M * DataCompBoy all my sites are php-only, so i'm thinking about move to php-fcgi with simpler webserver. and selecting between nginx and lighttpd...
1142934724 M * DataCompBoy on frontend already going to put pound:)
1142934785 M * DataCompBoy lighttpd able to handle vhosting -- i'm not needed in that
1142934792 M * mnemoc i don'T know if nginx suppor rewrites :)
1142934800 M * DataCompBoy support.
1142934805 M * DataCompBoy via pcre, on regexps
1142934814 M * DataCompBoy also incompatible with apache :D
1142934855 M * DataCompBoy nginx able to update core, change config without stopping of work:)
1142934871 M * mnemoc i know i could trust lighttpd in your case, but i'm not sure about nginx... i always saw it as something closer to 'pound'
1142934904 M * mnemoc try and tell me :)
1142934923 M * DataCompBoy :) ok, thanks. will stick with lighttpd
1142934935 M * DataCompBoy and will wait on nginx up to 1.0.0 :D
1142934940 M * DataCompBoy it 0.3.4 now :D
1142934948 M * mnemoc :p
1142934961 M * mnemoc that's better than 0.0.3 :)
1142934979 M * DataCompBoy nginx work well on rambler :)
1142935016 M * DataCompBoy its created by one man. so -- i think, community-created lighttpd be better:)
1142935056 M * mnemoc ack
1142935073 M * DataCompBoy ok, thanks! :D
1142935129 M * DataCompBoy agh, btw: pound use multithread/multiprocess of multiplex technology?
1142935250 M * mnemoc yes, one thread with two file descriptors for connection
1142935361 A * mnemoc miss mod_svn for lighttpd :(
1142935371 M * DataCompBoy f..k! mod_svn!
1142935378 M * DataCompBoy I needed it...
1142935392 M * mnemoc so you need to keep on apache
1142935397 M * KLFMANiK Hello, i'm using abount 2 years vserver 1.x with kernel 2.4.x - now 1.2.10 and 2.4.31 .... but now i want to switch to vserver 2.0.x and kernel 2.6.x ... some servers working fine, but i have one question: bind9 in my 'old' vserver is compiled with --disable-linux-caps ... is this still needed in vserver 2.x and kernel 2.6.x ??? or it's independent on vserver version?
1142935419 M * DataCompBoy or, move all repositories to separate context and svn.* to apache
1142935431 M * DataCompBoy KLFMANiK: yes
1142935448 M * mnemoc KLFMANiK: bind always need to be compiled with --disable-linux-caps to work as a decent application
1142935449 M * DataCompBoy or you can patch bind, so it will use caps only when this possible
1142935497 M * DataCompBoy mnemoc: pound able to proxy based on host: header?
1142935500 M * mnemoc or better, use powerdns instead of the crap from ISC
1142935508 M * mnemoc DataCompBoy: of course
1142935514 M * mnemoc DataCompBoy: using patterns ,-)
1142935529 M * KLFMANiK mnemoc: thanks
1142935543 M * DataCompBoy mnemoc: bind are good for me:) I was have loot of problems with several other lightweight dnses... and return back to bind
1142935552 M * DataCompBoy stability and speed.
1142935554 M * mnemoc KLFMANiK: powerdns can read the zone files from bind without troubles
1142935576 M * mnemoc DataCompBoy: i use djbdns+some patches :)
1142935580 M * KLFMANiK DataCompBoy: thanks ... so i can move to 2.x
1142935590 M * mnemoc KLFMANiK: good choice
1142935614 M * DataCompBoy mnemoc: agh! yes, djbdns looks good, right. but I don't want to touch now anything:)
1142935674 M * mnemoc DataCompBoy: that'S why it's good to look for good alternatives to the 'standard' applications before starting the projects :)
1142935684 M * DataCompBoy :D
1142935726 M * DataCompBoy "ExtendedHTTP" needed for dav_svn work correctly?
1142935798 M * mnemoc DataCompBoy: uhm?
1142935807 M * DataCompBoy at pound config
1142935816 M * mnemoc you need dav, but pound support it
1142935830 M * DataCompBoy WebDAV only? ExtendedHTTP can be left off?
1142935845 M * mnemoc i think so, try :)
1142935851 Q * KLFMANiK Quit: thanks for bind9 help
1142935855 M * mnemoc i have never seen 'ExtendedHTTP' before
1142935892 M * DataCompBoy at top of 'pound.conf': ## allow PUT and DELETE also (by default only GET, POST and HEAD)?:
1142935923 M * mnemoc i doubt
1142935939 M * mnemoc try wthout :)
1142935984 M * DataCompBoy agh! one problem: i prefer split configs to chunks... :( pound unable to handle includes
1142936036 M * mnemoc you can always 'gewnerate' your .conf from a bunch of chunks :)
1142936052 M * DataCompBoy :]
1142936073 M * mnemoc for x in *.confchunk; do cat $x; done > pound.conf   :p
1142936083 M * DataCompBoy yep. i'm already done that :D
1142936235 M * DataCompBoy ooops. pound log into syslog only?!
1142937367 J * meandtheshell ~markus@85-124-33-73.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at
1142938224 J * matta ~matta@71.224.125.126
1142938471 J * brc_ bruce@20151168080.user.veloxzone.com.br
1142938917 Q * brc_ Quit: Killed by gemini (Requested by panasync)
1142938993 M * mnemoc let me see if i did something on buildtime for that...
1142939064 J * brc bruce@20151168080.user.veloxzone.com.br
1142939130 M * mnemoc --without-log and --disable-daemon 
1142939158 M * DataCompBoy mnemoc: forget, i'm on nginx already:)
1142939170 M * mnemoc :)
1142939188 M * mnemoc DataCompBoy: do you speak russian?
1142939195 M * DataCompBoy yup
1142939200 M * mnemoc good
1142939205 M * mnemoc what: akselerirovannoye proksirovaniye means?
1142939219 M * DataCompBoy Accelerated Proxing
1142939234 M * mnemoc thanks :)
1142939251 M * DataCompBoy nginx use multiplexing method of handle
1142939257 M * DataCompBoy one process for all
1142939295 M * mnemoc that'S cheaper
1142939309 M * DataCompBoy yes. much cheaper, much faster
1142939449 J * Smutje_ ~Smutje@xdsl-87-78-84-111.netcologne.de
1142939462 M * dev_ DataCompBoy: are you in russia?
1142939469 J * lilalinux ~plasma@dslb-084-058-194-207.pools.arcor-ip.net
1142939477 M * DataCompBoy dev_: yes, @novosibirsk
1142939488 M * dev_ ohh...
1142939496 M * DataCompBoy sibiria, with bears on streets :D
1142939509 M * dev_ ha ha
1142939518 M * dev_    
1142939523 M * DataCompBoy looks like you too :D
1142939525 M * dev_ vezde you nas tut medvedi :)
1142939536 M * DataCompBoy or you from msk-office of swsoft?
1142939540 M * dev_ yup
1142939559 Q * Smutje Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1142939559 N * Smutje_ Smutje
1142939576 M * dev_ DataCompBoy: ti developish ili prosto ispolzuesh vserver?
1142939623 M * DataCompBoy dev_ just started use of it, but already made some prihiheshechek for :D
1142939655 M * DataCompBoy nss_vserver: auth module for host-based ssh/login auth into vservers
1142939656 M * dev_ prihiheshechek? :)
1142939659 M * DataCompBoy like virtuozzo :]
1142939671 M * DataCompBoy íó "ïðèõèõåøå÷êà". ÿ íå çíàþ êàê ïåðåâåñòè. ìîæåò, "ðþøêà"?
1142939676 M * dev_ :)))))
1142939704 M * phedny what character encoding is that?
1142939716 A * DataCompBoy bb in 10 min
1142939721 M * dev_ a pochemu ti ne uzaesh openvz? :)
1142939722 M * DataCompBoy phedny: win1251, sorry, will not repeat
1142939741 M * dev_ hope it didn't crashed others IRC clients :)))
1142939745 M * DataCompBoy dev_: not shipped with debian :)
1142939750 M * dev_ i vse?
1142939752 M * phedny DataCompBoy: I just wonder, because I'm working on an essay about character encodings :)
1142939771 M * dev_ ono i tak stavitsya na debian... hmmm... interesno...
1142939846 M * coocoon HM WE ALL TALKING IN ENGLISH
1142939964 J * pagano ~pagano@lappagano.cnaf.infn.it
1142940208 M * dev_ coocoon: we were talking about bears :)
1142940365 M * coocoon ;-)
1142940574 J * the_hydra ~a_mulyadi@202.59.168.5
1142940600 M * the_hydra hello
1142940805 M * phedny DataCompBoy: about nss_vserver.. that can be used so I would be able to login to host SSH daemon with eg. username root@www-server and then get a root shell in the www-server vhost?
1142940917 M * Hollow may a username contain @?
1142940948 M * phedny Hollow: I was reading http://linux-vserver.org/HowtoHostAuth
1142940957 M * phedny but I'm not sure I understand it correctly
1142940958 M * DataCompBoy dev_: yes, but linux-vserver installed easy :)
1142940976 M * DataCompBoy phedny: yes, you right
1142940983 M * DataCompBoy Hollow: yes, may. and works fine.
1142940988 M * Hollow ok..
1142940989 M * Hollow ;)
1142941000 M * DataCompBoy If your client doesn't allow to use names 'root@vserver', you can use 'vserver-root' 
1142941009 M * Hollow yeah, jsut read it
1142941024 M * phedny this is exactly what I need
1142941027 M * DataCompBoy i'm use telneat -- it allows use @.
1142941047 M * DataCompBoy phedny: that is exactly what lot of people need :D virtuozzo have that feature only in paid part
1142941048 M * phedny because I don't want SSH server on my webserver vhost, I now login to host and then "vserver www-server enter"
1142941054 M * Hollow DataCompBoy: i'd use linux :)
1142941061 M * Hollow telneat seems a windows app :o
1142941079 M * DataCompBoy you right. i'm use windows as desktop, and tuxes on servers :D
1142941091 M * Hollow heh
1142941109 M * phedny I've got Windows on a notebook, while servers and desktop are Linux (don't want to pay for another license)
1142941539 Q * meandtheshell Remote host closed the connection
1142942709 Q * pagano Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1142942815 M * DataCompBoy phedny: o, there small problem, if your vserver contain dashes in name. You can't log into with username www-server-root, only root@www-server
1142943190 J * DataCompBoy2 ~datacompb@217.8.236.1
1142943442 Q * Dr4g Quit: Leaving
1142943544 Q * DataCompBoy Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1142943609 N * DataCompBoy2 DataCompBoy
1142943683 N * DataCompBoy DataCompBoy2
1142943699 N * DataCompBoy2 DataCompBoy
1142944235 J * Viper0482 ~Viper0482@p5497725E.dip.t-dialin.net
1142944243 M * DataCompBoy Welcome, Viper0482!
1142944483 Q * the_hydra Quit: 
1142944651 M * DataCompBoy what will be with hardlinked files, if I run chxid -c vs -R /vservers/vs ?
1142944684 M * DataCompBoy all links in all other vservers of that file will be unreadable ?
1142944696 J * meandtheshell ~markus@85-124-36-218.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at
1142944709 M * DataCompBoy Welcome, meandtheshell!
1142944719 M * meandtheshell hi
1142944727 M * DataCompBoy do you know,
1142944730 M * DataCompBoy what will be with hardlinked files, if I run chxid -c vs -R /vservers/vs ?
1142944732 M * DataCompBoy all links in all other vservers of that file will be unreadable ?
1142944746 M * DataCompBoy or that file left with xid==0?
1142944804 Q * shedi Quit: Leaving
1142945232 J * shedi ~siggi@tolvudeild-200.lhi.is
1142945312 P * Roey Leaving
1142945445 J * pagano ~pagano@lappagano.cnaf.infn.it
1142945525 J * DataCompBoy2 ~datacompb@217.8.236.1
1142945720 Q * DataCompBoy Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1142945727 N * DataCompBoy2 DataCompBoy
1142945736 P * DataCompBoy 
1142945741 J * DataCompBoy ~datacompb@217.8.236.1
1142945751 J * mountie ~mountie@CPEdeaddeaddead-CM000a739acaa4.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com
1142945855 M * phedny DataCompBoy: thanks for noticing it :)
1142945942 M * DataCompBoy for perfomance purpose, on get<db>nam_r i'm split name on @ or - and try to use word before - or after @ as name of vserver
1142945964 M * DataCompBoy may be I should add trying of several configurations...
1142945975 M * DataCompBoy but will think about later:)
1142946020 M * phedny I may also consider renaming the vhost to something without a dash :)
1142946063 M * DataCompBoy and not use usernames with dashes -- because then user-name@vhost will be threated as user named "name@vhost" on vhost named "user" :D
1142946092 M * DataCompBoy syncshadows method doesn't have that limitation
1142946180 M * phedny on the www-server vhost all non-root accounts have shell set to /bin/false so that shouldn't be a problem at all :)
1142946214 M * phedny and I make usernames only alphanumericals
1142946544 J * f_ ~f_@83-215-237-2.seek.stat.salzburg-online.at
1142946556 Q * f_ Quit: 
1142946574 M * brc which tecnology virtuozzo uses ?
1142946590 M * DataCompBoy brc: for host auth?
1142946612 M * DataCompBoy I dunno, i'm only know that this are closed module, not released with openvz
1142946712 M * brc ok
1142946721 M * DataCompBoy afaik, virtuozzo use only user@host format.
1142946777 M * DataCompBoy ... i think, nss_vserver should not propogate username with dashes / ats in, for security reason
1142947222 M * DataCompBoy where to set caps?
1142947237 M * DataCompBoy can I change caps on fly, without restart of vserver?
1142947354 Q * mnemoc Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1142947375 M * brc no
1142947597 M * DataCompBoy so, how to enable "CAP_SYS_NICE" ?
1142947797 J * mnemoc ~amery@user4-2.tutopia-dialup.ifxnw.cl
1142947821 M * weasel CVE-2005-4418 only affects userland tools and CVE-2005-4347 only 2.4 kernels if I understand the DSA correctly, right?
1142947934 M * DataCompBoy looks right
1142948383 M * daniel_hozac waldi: and where would i get that?
1142948903 J * michal` ~michal@www.rsbac.org
1142949003 J * harti ~hw@83-215-237-5.seek.stat.salzburg-online.at
1142949299 M * waldi daniel_hozac: svn://svn.debian.org/kernel/dists/trunk/linux-2.6/debian/patches
1142949349 M * daniel_hozac waldi: vserver-xen-clash.patch, i assume?
1142949392 M * waldi no, this is only a part of it
1142949554 M * daniel_hozac so where's the rest of it?
1142949561 M * waldi in the same directory
1142949576 J * doener ~doener@i5387ED3E.versanet.de
1142949640 M * daniel_hozac got a name for me?
1142949664 M * doener James Brown
1142949670 M * daniel_hozac lol
1142949796 M * daniel_hozac waldi: or is it all in xen-tree-merge?
1142949833 M * waldi daniel_hozac: you need vserver, vserver-xen-clash and the xen-tree-merge patch
1142949850 M * waldi the vserver patch is not upstream
1142949859 M * daniel_hozac waldi: well, i was looking for a delta as i already have xen and vserver.
1142949918 Q * DataCompBoy Quit: Õðÿï
1142950027 M * waldi daniel_hozac: so? what is your problem than?
1142950345 M * daniel_hozac waldi: so there is nothing in the Xen code that needs to be patched wrt. vserver?
1142950352 M * waldi no
1142950389 M * daniel_hozac ok then.
1142950877 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1142950884 M * Bertl morning folks!
1142950915 M * phedny good day
1142950924 M * coocoon hello bertl
1142950930 M * phedny and it's 3:20 pm over here :)
1142950947 M * doener morning Bertl 
1142950951 M * harti morning bertl
1142951012 M * doener phedny: that's UPT (universal personal time), morning is when you get up ;)
1142951105 M * phedny no difference for me -- I'm awake between 6 and 10 every day; mostly around 7:30
1142951125 M * daniel_hozac i wish i could sleep 20 hours per day.
1142951142 M * daniel_hozac ;)
1142951176 M * phedny be carefull wath you wish for
1142951761 M * Bertl okay, off for now .. back later ...
1142951769 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
1142952999 Q * matta Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1142953614 Q * harti Quit: Leaving
1142953829 Q * shuri Quit: Quitte
1142953897 M * weasel hmm
1142953922 M * weasel can I assign whatever number I like in CTL_KERN for KERN_VSHELPER?
1142953939 M * weasel since in .16 the number 72 is already taken I changed it to 73
1142954100 M * doener weasel: in include/linux/sysctl.h? Bertl has chosen 17 for 2.6.16 there
1142954164 M * weasel does it matter?
1142954213 M * weasel as long as it's unique I mean
1142954392 J * matta ~matta@c-68-32-239-173.hsd1.pa.comcast.net
1142954468 M * doener i don't think that it matters
1142954765 M * weasel good, that makes two of us :)
1142954807 M * doener I guess you're porting the patch to 2.6.16? Is Bertl's version not working for you?
1142955254 Q * ||Cobra|| Remote host closed the connection
1142956160 Q * weasel Quit: reboot
1142956238 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1142956242 M * Bertl back now ...
1142956262 M * doener wb
1142956278 M * Bertl tx
1142956679 M * Bertl doener, daniel_hozac: btw I got a report that the 32bit compat interface fails on x86_64 with 0.30.210 when setting limits, probably related to unlimited being misinterpreted ... anybody interested in looking into it?
1142956841 M * doener I'll take a look... will take some time though, as I didn't install vserver stuff after my distro change, yet
1142956970 J * doener_ ~doener@i5387DC60.versanet.de
1142956981 M * doener_ ah, great... my daily disconnect...
1142957017 M * Bertl well, better than every hour or every 10 minutes :)
1142957059 M * doener_ heh
1142957078 M * doener_ hm, let's check if the nick-linking works now...
1142957099 F * ChanServ +o doener_
1142957107 F * ChanServ -o doener_
1142957120 M * doener_ :)
1142957172 Q * doener Killed (NickServ command used by doener_)
1142957179 N * doener_ doener
1142957284 M * michal` Bertl: What The Hack video presentation by Bertl <- what's that ?
1142957304 M * Bertl that is a video taping of my presentation on WTH :)
1142957328 M * Bertl 'What The Hack' was the event
1142957378 M * coocoon have seen it very good ;-)
1142957412 J * restill ~restill@c-24-11-171-10.hsd1.mi.comcast.net
1142957420 M * Bertl hey coocoon! wb restill!
1142957431 M * restill Hello
1142957437 M * coocoon hello
1142957460 M * coocoon bertl next time i will see u live in böblingen
1142957466 M * coocoon ;-)
1142957544 Q * pagano Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1142957553 M * Bertl great! looking forward to it!
1142957606 M * coocoon Bertl: the util-vserver-30.210 doesn't work on fc5, also vserver build failled with fc3, therfore, must I try to install special util-vserver-build-0.30.210-2.fc5.i386.rpm?
1142957625 M * coocoon I mean building fc5 guests failled 
1142957673 M * Bertl wasn't there some discussion on the ML about modifying some entries for fc5 (as it is relatively new)
1142957732 M * Bertl coocoon: and what precisely do you mean with 'util-vserver-30.210 doesn't work on fc5', do you get issues when compiling it? or when using it? or just that the 'vserver build' fails for certain distros?
1142957837 M * coocoon bertl: yes i have seen it  "Mirrors not fully functional"
1142957902 M * coocoon ah ok maybe now i know the error moment please
1142957921 M * coocoon ---> the 'vserver build' fails for certain distros? but i must try other thing
1142958021 M * coocoon ok now it works, sory everytime forget that i have disabled dynamic context
1142958058 M * Bertl you forgot to specify the context id? :)
1142958061 M * coocoon shame on me
1142958066 M * coocoon yes
1142958075 M * Bertl okay, that pretty much explains it
1142958198 M * coocoon most times after asking something i found it by myself
1142958224 M * Bertl well, better than not at all :)
1142958326 J * harry ~harry@d54C2508C.access.telenet.be
1142958358 M * Bertl welcome harry!
1142958392 M * Bertl Hollow: ping!
1142958578 J * weasel weasel@asteria.debian.or.at
1142958594 M * Bertl wb weasel!
1142958631 A * michal` looking for some nice tool for merging two large pieces of code
1142958673 M * michal` will be trying to apply vserver on rsbac sources, but doing it and fixing rejects isn't very productive.
1142958696 M * michal` do you Bertl know some better tools than vim + find to do it ?
1142958732 M * Bertl git has some nice merging capabilities
1142958750 M * Bertl also breaking down the patches into minimal hunks can help a lot
1142958852 M * michal` hm, our team (but not me) is using svk
1142958859 M * michal` and it has smerge, will ask them
1142959186 M * michal` 294M    linux-2.6.15.6-vserver-2.0.2-rc13
1142959186 M * michal` 980K    linux-2.6.15.6-vserver-2.0.2-rc13-rsbac-1.2
1142959194 M * michal` link trick is great :]
1142959210 M * Bertl yup, definitely :)
1142959397 Q * shedi Quit: Leaving
1142959720 M * michal` k, looks like i'll use that svk
1142959724 M * michal` *drama*
1142959750 M * coocoon bertl:  want to ask again, we discussed yesterday shortly about the perfomance issue of a host with more vservers, u told to use vhashify, but in the documentation, as i have understood, this will only be used for less use of the diskspace
1142959792 M * doener a sideeffect is that shared-libraries are only loaded once
1142959801 M * coocoon right
1142959857 M * Bertl coocoon: an important fact is also the inode cache
1142959866 M * coocoon but it is independent from running programs in the guests
1142959883 M * Bertl files are cached by inode. hard links have only _one_ inode, regardless of the number of links
1142959900 M * Bertl if you have 100 guests, with 1000 files each
1142959908 M * Bertl and roughly 800 files are 'shared'
1142959927 M * coocoon ah ok
1142959929 M * Bertl then you have 100000 files in the non-unified case
1142959947 M * Bertl and 20800 in the unified one
1142960056 M * coocoon but if i have different guest dists, and wanted to tarball the templates into /vservers folder, but have set the vhashify in the /etc/folders, so is it possible to set all links there also for non rpm distros
1142960138 M * coocoon with different names
1142960143 M * coocoon i mean
1142960247 M * coocoon thats mean i only remove the files into the /vservers directory
1142960278 M * coocoon and retarballed the files there, but the settings in the /etc/vservers folder stays
1142960282 M * coocoon is this possible
1142960301 M * coocoon -into +from
1142960335 M * Bertl you can tar up unified guests quite fine, you can also unpack them and reunify them at a different location
1142960375 M * coocoon ah ok so i must make a script, which reunify them
1142960396 M * coocoon after unpacking
1142960396 M * Bertl basically vunify/vhashify will do that
1142960417 M * Bertl but you need to configure/setup it properly
1142960452 M * coocoon thats the point
1142960565 M * Bertl well, should not be too hard, for vhashify you need the store and for both you'll need the (prune)pathes
1142960707 M * coocoon because of there are no informations in the templates only in the "script folder" /etc/vservers/foo, so i must set  different vhashify pathes for each distro, is it possible in this way
1142960726 M * coocoon ?
1142960782 M * Bertl well, yes, but you can also make some educated guesses which apply to all (most) distros
1142960805 M * Bertl e.g. you want to unify binaries and libraries (on non CoW versions)
1142960812 M * coocoon right that is another possibility
1142960827 M * Bertl so pathes like /bin /sbin /usr/bin /usr/sbin /lib /usr/lib
1142960847 M * Bertl will be excellent candidates, and should cover at least 50%
1142960871 M * Bertl /usr/share and /usr/info might be another good choice
1142960989 M * coocoon non CoW versions which ones
1142961020 M * Bertl the devel branch has CoW (copy on write) link breaking support
1142961031 M * coocoon never heard of it
1142961038 M * Bertl so if you enable that there, you can unify/hashify the entire guest
1142961051 M * Bertl even config and log files, they will be copied when necessary
1142961124 M * coocoon ok thanx a lot i must think and read about it the next chalemge thanx a lot
1142961151 M * Bertl you're welcome! have fun!
1142961931 M * Hollow Bertl: pong
1142961949 M * michal` timeout ;p
1142962315 M * michal` Bertl: will have to wait two weeks, sorry :(
1142962346 M * michal` even beeing _very_ strict on diskspace usage i have run of it
1142962353 M * Bertl michal`: np, take your time :)
1142962363 J * exp[a] ~USERNAME@eserv.comex.ru
1142962370 M * Bertl welcome exp[a]!
1142962372 M * michal` i'm waiting for a nice LaCie usb drive to arrive
1142962482 M * phreak`` Bertl: got a second ? :)
1142962517 M * Bertl phreak``: sure
1142962558 M * phreak`` Bertl: mind taking a look at http://dev.gentoo.org/~phreak/{super.c.diff,jfs_imap.c.diff) ?
1142962626 M * Bertl hmm?
1142962657 M * phreak`` yeah :) thats against 2.6.17-git :)
1142962691 M * Bertl and what am I supposed to see there/do with it?
1142962720 A * Bertl *confused*
1142962723 M * phreak`` Bertl: see if it's thats what you've done :)
1142962789 M * Bertl hmm, you are backporting the jfs stuff, is it that?
1142962819 M * Bertl I'm lost, please explain it to me ...
1142962833 J * Dr4g ~Dr4g@82-40-44-47.cable.ubr06.uddi.blueyonder.co.uk
1142962838 M * phreak`` Bertl: yah, I'm trying to figure out how to correctly adapt it to linux-git :)
1142962857 M * Bertl did they change anything in jfs?
1142963069 M * phreak`` Bertl: yeah, Linus merged shaggy's changes (see http://www.kernel.org/git/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=88dcb91177cfa5b26143a29074389a2aa259c7cf)
1142963150 M * Bertl ah, nice, even contains my ext2 attributes :)
1142963189 Q * Dr4g Read error: Connection reset by peer
1142963227 M * phreak`` Bertl: heh :)
1142963241 J * Dr4g ~Dr4g@82-40-44-47.cable.ubr06.uddi.blueyonder.co.uk
1142963271 M * Bertl yeah, nice stuff, now I understand ...
1142963294 M * Bertl patches look fine for me, but you should test them nevertheless with the testfs.sh
1142963355 M * phreak`` sure :)
1142963358 M * Bertl (you might have to 'adapt'/backport the attr stuff from 2.1.1)
1142963367 M * phreak`` will do that tomorrow :)
1142963376 M * Bertl should only be a few changes/flags there to make it work
1142963691 Q * entroposcope Quit: Ping timeout
1142963734 J * entroposcope ~entroposc@user-0c992og.cable.mindspring.com
1142963786 M * phreak`` Bertl: no sendfile issues on 2.6.16-vs2.1.1rc13
1142963856 M * Bertl excellent! thanks a lot!
1142963874 M * doener Bertl: rc13 has both patches, right?
1142963878 M * Bertl yep
1142963881 M * doener k
1142963889 M * Bertl the READ/WRITE and your return fix
1142963894 M * phreak`` Bertl: nah, no problem :)
1142964262 M * Bertl dev_: congrats, the broken out version of the 2.6.16 release looks good!
1142964400 J * ddlp ~niko@64.34.35.35
1142964406 M * Bertl welcome ddlp!
1142964422 M * ddlp hi Bertl ... long time!
1142964427 Q * restill Quit: Leaving
1142964442 M * Bertl ddlp: yeah, how is it going?
1142964447 M * ddlp hi micha
1142964457 M * ddlp s/micha/micah :)
1142964478 M * micah hi ddlp 
1142964489 M * ddlp Bertl: goo, i was traveling and ofline... but the vserver kept on running 
1142964505 M * Bertl +d
1142964553 A * ddlp is catching up
1142965014 M * Bertl good catching up then :)
1142965101 M * ddlp Bertl: thanks
1142965208 J * shedi ~siggi@inferno.lhi.is
1142965219 M * Bertl welcome shedi!
1142965228 M * Bertl okay, off for now ... back in a few hours ...
1142965233 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
1142965247 M * shedi hello Bertl_oO 
1142966388 Q * derjohn Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1142966400 J * derjohn ~derjohn@80.69.37.19
1142967073 Q * derjohn Quit: by(t)e
1142967661 J * lilalinux_ ~plasma@h1-gw.of.net-lab.net
1142967893 Q * lilalinux Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1142968714 Q * Plux Quit: 
1142969141 M * Soekris hello
1142969154 M * Soekris I have a new problem.
1142969166 M * Soekris ntpdate -u nl.pool.ntp.org
1142969166 M * Soekris 21 Mar 14:25:29 ntpdate[20338]: Can't adjust the time of day: Operation not permitted
1142969176 M * Soekris I'm root at my vserver
1142969322 M * doener Soekris: well, you don't have the necessary capability, as it usually is harmful
1142969340 M * doener the vserver's root user could just set the clock to anything useless...
1142969354 M * Soekris ok 
1142969373 M * Soekris i wil check how i can do that
1142969390 M * doener why do you want to do that anyway?
1142969404 M * Soekris because the time is not good
1142969420 M * doener adjust it on the host?
1142969430 M * Soekris the host is good
1142969465 M * doener then you have the wrong tz in the vserver... the system clock should be set to UTC, everything else is done via tz setup
1142969532 M * Soekris Ok it clear
1142969747 M * michal` yep
1142969758 M * michal` if host is good there is no other way
1142969770 M * michal` vserver does not virtualise time ;p
1142969774 M * michal` (yet ? ;)
1142969795 M * daniel_hozac virtualizing time doesn't make sense as you already have the timezone functionality...
1142969804 M * michal` yep, i know, just kidding
1142969834 M * daniel_hozac i know you know, just wanted to clarify ;)
1142969842 M * michal` k]
1142969849 M * michal` imagine a giant logo on vserver page
1142969857 M * michal` "we virtualise time"
1142969862 M * michal` people would buy it ;p
1142969892 M * daniel_hozac lol
1142969924 M * doener hey, could I get my 48h day then?
1142969935 M * doener ;)
1142969944 M * michal` you not, but your guests could ;p
1142969950 A * michal` is for 96h day
1142969960 M * michal` believe me i have use for such
1142970110 P * Dr4g Leaving
1142970469 Q * teukka Read error: Connection reset by peer
1142970488 J * teukka ~tmatilai@backport.ri.fi
1142971387 M * SiD3WiNDR haha
1142971392 M * SiD3WiNDR virtualizing time++
1142971405 M * Soekris SiD3WiNDR: hello
1142971429 M * Soekris alles goed ?
1142971433 M * SiD3WiNDR sure
1142971439 M * Soekris ?
1142971447 M * Soekris Oh goed L:d
1142973083 J * bonbons ~bonbons@83.222.39.180
1142973590 M * blizz are there any problems with raid-1 running on the host system?
1142973599 M * blizz i think there's nothing realted to vserver but maybe..
1142973633 M * [PUPPETS]Gonzo afaik no
1142973647 M * daniel_hozac software RAID-1?
1142973648 M * [PUPPETS]Gonzo I run a few guests on a raid1 (softraid) host
1142973671 M * blizz hardware raid
1142973680 M * blizz i think linux doesnt even know about that does it? ;-)
1142973685 M * daniel_hozac indeed.
1142973695 Q * Viper0482 Quit: bin raus, 
1142973698 M * blizz okay, than sorry for the stupid question ;-)
1142973740 M * [PUPPETS]Gonzo there are many more much more stupid questions ;)
1142973762 M * blizz sure heh
1142973999 Q * eyck Quit: leaving
1142974457 J * eyck eyck@81.219.64.71
1142975366 M * mugwump moinmoin
1142975752 N * weasel test
1142975770 N * test weasel
1142976620 Q * Geert Remote host closed the connection
1142977579 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving
1142977774 Q * exp[a] Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1142977790 M * mugwump Bertl_oO: when you're back iO can you help me again with my lkml delivery problem? 
1142978117 M * blizz An error occured while executing the vserver startup sequence; when
1142978117 M * blizz there are no other messages, it is very likely that the init-script
1142978117 M * blizz () failed.
1142978125 M * blizz init script inside the vserver?
1142978143 M * daniel_hozac blizz: yes. it looks like your configuration is weird though.
1142978171 M * blizz most likely, just killed the debian's root directory and installed another distro into it
1142978247 M * daniel_hozac no, i mean, those parentheses are supposed to contain the command used to start it.
1142978277 M * blizz right, i also tohught that
1142978290 M * blizz but the only thing i did was replacing /vservers/toast
1142978316 M * daniel_hozac ls -l /etc/vservers/<name>/apps/init/style
1142978339 M * blizz yup, i created that file and it contains "sysv"
1142978340 M * blizz right?
1142978424 M * daniel_hozac does the guest have a /etc/init.d/rc or /etc/rc.d/rc?
1142978467 M * blizz nope, /etc/rc is the init script
1142978483 M * blizz so setting cmd.start should help?
1142978512 M * blizz yep..
1142978570 M * blizz nice, its up :-P
1142978577 M * daniel_hozac cool.
1142978620 M * blizz so cmd.stop should countain /etc/rc.shutdown ;-)
1142978690 M * daniel_hozac if that's what your distro uses, seems like a good idea.
1142978725 M * blizz yeah, yeah.. enough of the stupid question ;-) (not really.. lol)
1142978762 M * coocoon blizz: which distro
1142978780 M * blizz crux linux
1142978786 M * blizz fyi, http://www.crux.nu/
1142978945 M * blizz ok, one more problem left (at least..), i set an interface in /etc/vservers/<name>/interfaces/0/, dev eth0, ip bla bla, prefix 24, but if i open an sshd there and want to reach it from outside i only get the one from the host system
1142978949 M * blizz so i think i missed something..
1142978999 M * daniel_hozac you forgot to bind the host sshd to the host's IP address.
1142979012 M * daniel_hozac edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config on the host and set the Listen correctly.
1142979034 M * blizz ohhkay, it doesnt know about it's ips ;-)
1142979035 M * daniel_hozac ListenAddress, i mean ;)
1142979051 M * blizz yep yep, :-)
1142979056 M * daniel_hozac the host is not limited.
1142979105 M * blizz mhh, but i got a 2.4 vserver around and everything is bound to INADDR_ANY and it also works.. do i have to set interfaces/<num>/name then? or is it sth special?
1142979108 M * blizz would be more comfortable..
1142979179 M * daniel_hozac guests are limited, the host is not.
1142979185 M * daniel_hozac has never been.
1142979218 M * daniel_hozac there are some legacy scripts that will run certain host services in a chbind, but using the appopriate facilities for that is much better.
1142979225 M * blizz yeah, but i only think there must be some way to let the guest bind to 0.0.0.0 and it will point to his ip only
1142979228 M * blizz mhm
1142979244 M * daniel_hozac yes, all guests can bind to 0.0.0.0 and it will only bind to their IP addresses.
1142979263 M * daniel_hozac the _host_ cannot bind to 0.0.0.0 without using all the IP addresses though.
1142979282 M * blizz oh damn
1142979287 M * blizz i didnt listen *lol*
1142979289 M * blizz im sorry
1142979307 M * blizz now that was stupid :P
1142979314 M * blizz pardon me :-)
1142979514 J * Aiken ~james@tooax6-023.dialup.optusnet.com.au
1142979778 J * rootx ~rootx@224-26.connection.cz
1142979797 M * rootx fujtajbl vespolek :D
1142979851 M * doener channel language is english
1142979855 P * coocoon So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish!
1142979877 M * rootx girls don't like boys (& linux too) cuz girls like cars & money :D
1142979953 M * doener if you say so...
1142979965 M * rootx doener: jj (jj == yeah yeah)
1142980005 M * rootx a little bit silently is here..
1142980009 M * doener so girls probably don't like Linux-VServer either, right?
1142980029 A * Wonka wants a girl who wants him...
1142980032 M * rootx doener: maybe, i don't sure, but thing so
1142980064 M * doener well, usually the channel is on-topic... and that causes it to be quite silent sometimes...
1142980104 M * rootx doener: don't belive to any topics :D
1142980150 J * coocoon ~coocoon@p54A06358.dip.t-dialin.net
1142980173 M * doener there's #offtopic for all the other stuff...
1142980239 M * rootx doener: just take it easy, i'm just joking
1142980239 A * mnemoc is married, has 2 daugthers, 3 sisters, 4 sisters-in-law and 6 nieces. and most of them use linux
1142980326 P * meandtheshell 
1142980377 M * rootx mnemoc: it looks as just very disciplined family :D
1142980463 M * mnemoc :)
1142980567 M * mnemoc well, it's not disciplined at all
1142980792 P * rootx So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish!
1142980884 J * Dr4g ~Dr4g@82-40-44-47.cable.ubr06.uddi.blueyonder.co.uk
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1142983180 J * Smutje_ ~Smutje@xdsl-84-44-246-136.netcologne.de
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1142983284 N * Smutje_ Smutje
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