1141862960 M * phycho ty
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1141870922 J * lost_eps ~lost_eps@216.235.146.165
1141871102 M * Bertl welcome lost_eps!
1141871138 J * anonc ~anonc@staffnet.internode.com.au
1141871287 M * Bertl wb anonc!
1141871401 M * anonc hola bertl
1141871414 M * anonc how are things going for you?
1141871475 M * Bertl well, I'd say quite fine, if there wasn't that faulty raid :/
1141871506 M * anonc oh? one what machine? (/me consults the irc archives)
1141871586 M * Bertl nah, a customer server, nevertheless unfortunate ...
1141871618 M * anonc hardware just ain't what it used to be
1141871673 M * Bertl yeah, I remember back then, at the university, we had a failing hard disk (after 10 or 12 years of operation) and we managed to fix it by replacing a capacitor :)
1141871713 M * Bertl (we actually replaced it on site :)
1141871722 J * matta ~matta@c-68-81-35-243.hsd1.pa.comcast.net
1141871763 M * anonc its a bit like everything mechanical now - cars that need a laptop to fix and so on
1141871974 M * Bertl yeah, well, hardware is getting cheaper and cheaper
1141871994 M * Bertl not that I really want to complain, as this make more and more hardware affordable ...
1141872020 J * monrad ~mikkel@213083190131.sonofon.dk
1141872247 M * lost_eps hey guys, where is a URL that explains how to use the fakeinit line in the /etc/vservers/foo.conf (just finished using the Fedora Core 4 Howto)
1141872331 J * Smutje_ ~Smutje@xdsl-84-44-246-191.netcologne.de
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1141872434 N * Smutje_ Smutje
1141872579 M * Bertl lost_eps: hmm, maybe you should change the guide ...
1141872599 M * Bertl lost_eps: there is no foo.conf in recent configs ...
1141872706 M * Bertl lost_eps: here you find the config which is used now, including the various flags: http://www.nongnu.org/util-vserver/doc/conf/configuration.html
1141873017 M * Bertl lost_eps: if the howto is editable (don't know which one you are referring to) I'd suggest to update it or at least put a note there
1141873866 M * lost_eps thank you Bertl
1141873938 M * Bertl lost_eps: what kernel/tools do you currently use?
1141873986 M * lost_eps 2.6.15.4-vs2.0.2-rc10 / util-vserver-0.30.210
1141874035 M * Bertl okay, so the tools are recent, and you probably want to use a new style config with them
1141874040 M * lost_eps I'm wanting to respawn the svbootscan for qmail ran from the inittab. I read somewhere you have to enable the fakeinit line to get the inittab to workright
1141874062 M * Bertl okay, you actually want to set the initstyle to plain
1141874076 M * lost_eps yes
1141874077 M * Bertl (which starts an init process inside the guest)
1141874082 M * lost_eps correct
1141874121 M * Bertl and you probably want the info_init (fakeinit) set, so that it appears as pid=1
1141874127 M * Bertl (which is the default)
1141874174 M * lost_eps yes
1141874210 M * Bertl okay, I assume you do already have a guest, yes?
1141874216 M * lost_eps that is correct
1141874235 M * Bertl and for whatever reason (read howto :) you have a single file config for that?
1141874349 M * lost_eps there is a vservers.conf other than that no actual config file for the vserver
1141874388 M * Bertl hmm, how was that guest created?
1141874440 M * lost_eps vserver qmail1 build -m yum --hostname=qmail1.johnhall.cc --interface qmail1=eth0:192.168.0.1/24 -- -d fc4
1141874458 M * Bertl ah, great, so you already _have_ a new style config
1141874471 M * lost_eps ok, cool :) haha
1141874488 M * lost_eps dont know the difference between new and old style yet :P
1141874492 M * Bertl you just missed the --initstyle plain there, but that is no big deal, as you can simply add that 
1141874518 M * Bertl you config is directory based, and located somewhere in /etc/vservers or so
1141874527 M * Bertl the top directory is the name of your guest
1141874532 M * lost_eps yes
1141874550 M * Bertl if you search the 'Flower Page' (the one I pasted above)
1141874564 M * Bertl for the key word 'plain' or 'sysv'
1141874584 M * Bertl then you'll find the proper path where to put that 
1141874604 M * Bertl i.e. something like /etc/vservers/<name>/apps/init/style IIRC
1141874653 M * lost_eps got it.....thanks :)
1141874698 M * Bertl you're welcome!
1141874800 M * lost_eps beautiful......that did the trick
1141874808 M * lost_eps I appreciate it
1141874882 M * Bertl have fun! feel free to hang around! don't hesitate to ask questions (see topic)
1141874909 M * lost_eps :)
1141876872 M * lost_eps ./msg Bertl you still around?
1141876880 M * Bertl yup :)
1141876930 M * lost_eps playing with the qmail setup. It spawns a process called svscanboot which starts the qmail processes
1141876940 M * lost_eps starting the vserver works great
1141876952 M * lost_eps stopping the vserver hangs until it times out
1141876961 M * lost_eps http://www.johnhall.cc/vserver.txt -- what it looks like
1141876998 M * lost_eps not asking for qmail advise.....but I believe it is related to vserver configuration as it does not act this way in a non-virtual server
1141877002 M * Bertl yepyep, not unusual ... 
1141877026 M * Bertl thing is, your guest us supposed to get rid of running processes on shutdown
1141877046 M * Bertl it actually does that 'except' for the svscanboot (as it seems)
1141877064 M * lost_eps right
1141877067 M * Bertl you might consider adding a specific 'kill' script for that one
1141877105 M * Bertl alternatively, you can use the devel branch which alows you to set a flag, which kills off running processes when reboot is called (without the timeout)
1141877114 M * lost_eps ya, that is the problem. as soon as the system sends a kill to it, it respawns (as it is supposed to) by means of inittab
1141877120 M * Bertl or you can simply accept the timeout (which can be configured)
1141877170 M * lost_eps I may have to play with the timeout then. That *could* be a work around
1141877208 M * Bertl as I said, the 'typical' real system just reboots in this case, regardless of the running processes :)
1141877220 M * lost_eps true true :)
1141877231 M * lost_eps fair enough
1141877286 M * lost_eps I assume the timeout would be set somewhere in the /etc/vservers/VSERVER dir?
1141877326 M * Bertl yes, or as default for all guests, check the flower page for the location, 'timeout' might be a good search term
1141877351 M * lost_eps k, will do
1141877353 M * lost_eps thanks again
1141877358 M * Bertl np
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1141879820 J * rs ~rs@vol75-7-82-229-177-124.fbx.proxad.net
1141879909 M * rs re
1141880137 M * Bertl wb rs!
1141880170 M * rs thx
1141880934 M * Bertl okay, off to bed now .. have a nice whatever everyone! cya tomorrow!
1141880939 M * Bertl night rs!
1141880945 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
1141880953 M * rs night bertl
1141881591 J * matti_ matti@linux.gentoo.pl
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1141884881 J * rs ~rs@vol75-7-82-229-177-124.fbx.proxad.net
1141884881 J * Geert geert@geert.irssi.be
1141884881 J * meebey meebey@booster.qnetp.net
1141884881 J * Loki_muh loki@213.133.125.66
1141884881 J * sladen paul@starsky.19inch.net
1141884881 J * michal` ~michal@www.rsbac.org
1141884881 J * lonewolff lonewolff@adleman.lonewolff.info
1141884881 J * teukka ~tmatilai@backport.ri.fi
1141884881 J * samuel_ ~samuel@levinux.UQAR.UQUEBEC.CA
1141884881 J * rmoriz ~roland@moriz.name
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1141894530 J * pagano ~pagano@lappagano.cnaf.infn.it
1141895269 M * harry anyone here?
1141895273 A * harry has a q
1141895548 M * harry how can i set routes per virtual server?
1141895566 M * harry e.g. i have 1 physical interface on which the host runs
1141895578 M * harry 192.168.28.0/23 with its own gateway
1141895585 M * harry this is eth1
1141895597 M * harry on eth0 i now have 10.33.113.0/24 with its gateway
1141895611 M * harry and 134.58.10.0/26 with its own gateway
1141895616 M * harry on eth2 i have other networks
1141895634 A * harry wants traffic from the correct subnet to go over the correct interface/gateway
1141895653 M * harry AND... i don't want a primary ip address on the interfaces
1141895694 M * harry is there some doc where i can find a howto? (or do i just have to do it with advanced routing stuff?
1141895744 M * harry + linux-vserver page is down (since yesterday)
1141895977 M * SiD3WiNDR works fine here
1141895981 M * harry how?
1141895986 M * SiD3WiNDR the page I mean ;)
1141895997 M * harry ah'
1141896009 M * SiD3WiNDR and yes, I bet it's iproute2 you need
1141896020 M * harry yes
1141896027 M * harry but do i have to set it up manually ?
1141896062 M * SiD3WiNDR yeah
1141896067 M * harry and how do i make sure that, when i shut down the last network, it doesn't remove the route
1141896089 M * SiD3WiNDR that I don't know
1141896097 M * SiD3WiNDR by putting it into the startup scripts of the vservers needing it?
1141896107 M * SiD3WiNDR then it gets run every time making sure the route is there when you need it
1141896109 M * SiD3WiNDR (or so)
1141896125 M * SiD3WiNDR I don't have any special routing requirements on any of my vserver boxen
1141896147 A * harry has vps'es on different networks/different vlans/different interfaces
1141896160 M * harry : 10:10 lois ~ ;host linux-vserver.org
1141896160 M * harry ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
1141896298 M * harry dns is failing!!!!! ;)
1141896535 M * SiD3WiNDR toml@galaxy:~$ host linux-vserver.org
1141896536 M * SiD3WiNDR linux-vserver.org has address 207.253.4.250
1141896536 M * SiD3WiNDR linux-vserver.org mail is handled by 10 mail.linux-vserver.org.
1141896537 M * SiD3WiNDR :>
1141896562 M * harry weird
1141896566 M * harry so, your name is tom :)
1141896575 M * SiD3WiNDR aw, shush :p
1141896880 M * harry grmbl... doesn't work here :s
1141896966 M * daniel_hozac http://archives.linux-vserver.org/200311/0470.html
1141897190 J * shedi ~siggi@tolvudeild-204.lhi.is
1141897332 M * teukka harry: ns4.linux-vserver.org is not responding, but other 4 are working
1141897756 M * harry then why doesn't that resolve here?
1141897902 M * doener_ harry: does "host linux-vserver.org ns1.linux-vserver.org" work?
1141898450 J * rs ~rs@vol75-7-82-229-177-124.fbx.proxad.net
1141898577 Q * rs Quit: 
1141898812 J * rs ~rs@vol75-7-82-229-177-124.fbx.proxad.net
1141899529 M * SiD3WiNDR doener_: how would that, if he cannot resolve the domain where you're pointing it to for ns ;)
1141899716 M * doener_ SiD3WiNDR: i once had dns problems where my isp's server just didn't reply to the query, but asking the authorative server directly worked
1141899795 Q * Aiken_ Quit: Leaving
1141899819 M * doener_ SiD3WiNDR: ah, ok, yeah, stupid... using the ip address of the nameserver is probably a little more useful...
1141900035 M * SiD3WiNDR ;-)
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1141901702 J * wibble wibble@vortex.ukshells.co.uk
1141901704 M * wibble hello!
1141901716 M * wibble long time no see!
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1141902692 J * coocoon ~coocoon@p54A05AB7.dip.t-dialin.net
1141902698 M * coocoon hello
1141902700 M * coocoon morining
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1141904711 J * FireEgl Atlantica@Atlantica.IRCNut.Com
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1141904981 J * michal` ~michal@www.rsbac.org
1141905371 M * coocoon does anyone know this error message http://pastebin.com/592439
1141905489 J * pagano_ ~pagano@lappagano.cnaf.infn.it
1141905529 Q * pagano Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1141905566 M * coocoon it occures during vserver stopping process
1141905876 J * rs ~rs@office.dailymotion.com
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1141908862 J * hw ~hw@83-215-237-5.seek.stat.salzburg-online.at
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1141910214 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1141910218 M * Bertl morning folks!
1141910664 J * michal` ~michal@www.rsbac.org
1141910718 J * pagano ~pagano@lappagano.cnaf.infn.it
1141911017 M * hw morgen bertl! hier ist harti von domaintechnik
1141911045 M * coocoon morning bertl
1141911047 J * phycho ~phycho@ext-gw.darktech.org.uk
1141911065 M * coocoon bertl:  does anyone know this error message http://pastebin.com/592439
1141911159 M * Bertl hey coocoon!
1141911184 M * wibble don't suppose anyone has the latest .deb files for utils-vserver for sarge lying about?
1141911217 M * Bertl wibble: have you tried google?
1141911259 M * Bertl coocoon: well, that is not really an error
1141911288 M * coocoon bertl: ok so it doesn't matter
1141911291 M * Bertl coocoon: basically it means that your guest did not shut down completely. often some tasks stay alive although they ought to be killed
1141911306 M * coocoon bertl: ok thats fine
1141911319 M * Bertl coocoon: you might get a hint from recent tools which should give you a list of processes
1141911329 M * Bertl you can then add some scripts to kill them properly
1141911432 M * pagano hi bert :)
1141911541 M * coocoon bertl: ok maybe I will do this :-) I have a question to ur cool step-by-step guide cleaning up init scripts: Does that match to all distirbutions or only to debian ditros
1141911733 M * coocoon bertl: because of getting everytime this error message vxW: xid=104 messing with the procfs
1141911766 M * Bertl coocoon: it applies to all sysv based distros
1141911772 M * coocoon bertl: disabled all services at deb distros and redhat distros, but all times gettiong this error
1141911782 M * coocoon bertl. ok so I must have a look at them
1141911791 M * Bertl and this is very likey a script which 'checks' something :)
1141911801 M * coocoon bertl: could this leed to the iptables errors I also get
1141911830 M * coocoon bertl: I checked it, there were no iptables rules if there is no vserver started
1141911840 M * coocoon bertl: +led
1141911947 M * Bertl well, yes, I'd suggest to add an echo before and after the guest startup
1141911966 M * Bertl e.g. something like echo "---" just to verify that it really comes from the guest
1141912005 M * coocoon bertl: here are some rules if vservers are started http://pastebin.com/592552, it looks like that there are too many same rules
1141912065 M * pagano bert and all, a question : if a service into virtual machine produce a kernel panic the machine goes in kernel panic completely right?
1141912235 M * cehteh yes
1141912253 M * cehteh well services shouldnt cause a kernel panik .. thats a kernel bug then
1141912286 M * Bertl pagano, cehteh: yep
1141912417 M * dev hi
1141912420 M * dev Bertl: are you here?
1141912427 M * Bertl dev: yup, what's up?
1141912513 M * dev have you measure fairness of your scheduler? we were unable to force any fairness... i.e. VPS with 10 running processes eats ~10x times more than another high prio VPS
1141912522 M * dev ... eats CPU...
1141912533 M * dev maybe we do something wrong?
1141912559 M * Bertl maybe, what is your config, and what patch version do you use?
1141912598 M * dev patch-2.6.14.4-vs2.1.0.diff
1141912621 M * Bertl well, it's an older one, but it should work fine for limited scheduling
1141912624 Q * matta Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1141912633 M * coocoon Bertl: sorry for asking but I do not know where to set the echo command, should I integrate into the pre-start script, or where and also I have no answer about it how to program it
1141912650 M * dev what is limited scheduling? you mean there is no any fairness, only cpulimits?
1141912680 M * Bertl dev: in that version, it's just a hard-cpu scheduler
1141912700 M * dev it was taken from http://www.13thfloor.at/vserver/d_rel26/v2.1.0/ where can I find more recent version then? :)
1141912723 M * Bertl ah, so you are not monitoring our development that closely :)
1141912739 M * Bertl http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/
1141912776 M * Bertl but if you wait a few hours, then rc11 should be out
1141913099 M * Bertl dev: would be nice if you could report back anny issues you encounter :)
1141913147 Q * Bertl Quit: Reconnecting
1141913149 M * dev ok, I will wait for it
1141913177 J * Bertl herbert@212.16.62.52
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1141920652 M * harry okay
1141920654 M * harry Bertl: here?
1141920658 A * harry is sick of this...
1141920659 M * harry http://pastebin.com/592767
1141920667 M * harry why, o why can't i remove this dir!!!!
1141920670 M * Bertl yep, I'm here ...
1141920674 M * harry hmm...
1141920731 M * Bertl what are you trying to do? the pastbin page looks very confused :)
1141920774 M * harry nothing... it's ok now :s
1141920780 M * harry i was being stupid ;)
1141920784 M * harry nevermind :)
1141920790 M * Bertl ok
1141920835 M * harry i thought it was the same problem as always, that i couldn't remove the vserver dir
1141920843 M * harry but it's normal, because it was still mounted
1141920962 M * harry hmm... okay
1141920975 M * harry now i need to know how i can get different filesystems in there...
1141920988 M * harry /dev/mapper/vservervg-ftpservlv on /vservers/ftpserv type reiserfs (rw,attrs)
1141920989 M * harry /dev/mapper/vservervg-ftpservhomelv on /vservers/ftpserv/home type reiserfs (rw,attrs)
1141920992 M * harry /dev/mapper/vservervg-ftpservuploadlv on /vservers/ftpserv/home/ftp/upload type reiserfs (rw,attrs)
1141921006 M * harry how do i make them visible inside that ftpserv server?
1141921019 M * harry (which manual is it? ;))
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1141921071 M * Bertl you ahve to mount them in the proper namespace
1141921093 M * harry i know... but where is it documented on how to do such things?
1141921097 M * Bertl the easiest way is to use the config for that (i.e. the fstab file)
1141921146 M * Bertl http://linux-vserver.org/Namespaces
1141921196 M * harry tnx
1141921518 J * stefani ~stefani@superquan.apl.washington.edu
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1141924748 P * c0d3r 
1141924753 M * Bertl welcome Duckx!
1141924762 M * Bertl hey stefani!
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1141925728 M * stefani hey
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1141927320 M * Bertl okay, off for now .. back later ...
1141927325 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
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1141930393 J * matta ~matta@c-68-32-239-173.hsd1.pa.comcast.net
1141930393 J * michal` ~michal@www.rsbac.org
1141930393 J * wibble wibble@vortex.ukshells.co.uk
1141930393 J * Geert geert@geert.irssi.be
1141930393 J * meebey meebey@booster.qnetp.net
1141930393 J * sladen paul@starsky.19inch.net
1141930393 J * teukka ~tmatilai@backport.ri.fi
1141930393 J * samuel_ ~samuel@levinux.UQAR.UQUEBEC.CA
1141930393 J * rmoriz ~roland@moriz.name
1141930467 J * meebey_ meebey@booster.qnetp.net
1141930467 Q * meebey Read error: Connection reset by peer
1141930477 J * sladen_ paul@starsky.19inch.net
1141930489 Q * rmoriz Read error: Connection reset by peer
1141930493 J * rmoriz ~roland@moriz.name
1141930558 Q * sladen Read error: Operation timed out
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1141930756 J * Loki|muh loki@satanix.de
1141932873 J * doener_ ~doener@i5387DB82.versanet.de
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1141932975 Q * doener Read error: Connection reset by peer
1141933048 Q * Dr4g Read error: Connection reset by peer
1141933050 J * Dr4g_ ~Dr4g@82-40-44-190.cable.ubr06.uddi.blueyonder.co.uk
1141933292 J * michal` ~michal@www.rsbac.org
1141934300 N * sladen_ sladen
1141934816 J * woosa ~hwc@62.84.76.106
1141934987 N * woosa MrSK
1141935009 P * MrSK 
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1141936218 J * phycho ~phycho@ext-gw.darktech.org.uk
1141936876 Q * entroposcope Remote host closed the connection
1141937078 J * entroposcope ~entroposc@user-0c992og.cable.mindspring.com
1141937329 J * lost_eps ~lost_eps@216.235.146.165
1141937482 M * lost_eps Hi all, I want to do a COW (Copy on Write) to save disk space and time when creating a new vserver. Can anyone verify if vunify/vhashify is the current way of going about this?
1141937602 M * daniel_hozac just cp -al /vservers/{a,b} should do it.
1141937642 M * lost_eps excellent, thank you
1141937742 M * daniel_hozac assuming all the files are already marked as unified.
1141937800 M * lost_eps great
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1141938303 J * cinix ~cinix@69-163-32-140.lndnnh.adelphia.net
1141938459 M * cinix Is there a way to allow a vserver the ability to manage a tun/tap interface? i'm running util-vserver 0.30.204
1141938497 M * cinix I set an interface where I only specified an ip, but I'm still riddled with SIOCS errors
1141938515 M * daniel_hozac /dev/net/tun, ~hide_netif in flags, CAP_NET_ADMIN in bcapabilities.
1141938621 M * daniel_hozac oh, and only one directory in interfaces/, with 0.0.0.0 as the IP address.
1141938621 M * cinix thanks! let me try that. i'm in the vserver atm so I'll be rebooting
1141938627 M * cinix ah ok
1141938715 M * cinix what should I specify for a device for that ip? the tun device?
1141938743 M * daniel_hozac is the tun device setup by the host?
1141938766 M * cinix no
1141938797 M * daniel_hozac anyway, remove dev and touch nodev.
1141938800 M * cinix it tells me I haven't specified a device if I only have an ip set, with no device specified
1141938840 M * daniel_hozac thus, touch nodev.
1141938850 Q * cinix Remote host closed the connection
1141939864 J * cinix_ ~cinix@69-163-32-140.lndnnh.adelphia.net
1141939893 M * cinix_ Thanks! Took me a couple trys, not placing things in the right spot, but everythings working now.
1141939911 M * cinix_ thanks again, off to play
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1141941673 J * comfrey ~comfrey@h-64-105-87-234.sttnwaho.covad.net
1141942015 M * lost_eps daniel, earlier you said the cp -al would work for COW assuming all files were already marked as unified. Is this what the vunify utility is for?
1141942486 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1141942492 M * Bertl evening folks!
1141942516 M * lost_eps evening
1141942587 M * Bertl lost_eps: so already doing CoW stuff?
1141942604 P * stefani I'm Parting (the water)
1141942605 M * lost_eps haha......trying
1141942677 M * Bertl are you working on a provider setup or just for your private servers?
1141942717 M * lost_eps right now it's installed on my laptop (workstation) playing around. but eventually probably a provider setup
1141942972 M * lost_eps it's one of those things that you want to slap yourself later because it was so easy, but trying to get an understanding how to mark the files as "unified" as daniel_hozac mentioned earlier
1141943524 M * Bertl yeah, most linux-vserver things are _too_ easy, folks always try to find complicated solutions, not seeing the direct approach :)
1141943759 M * lost_eps the page says vhashify is vunify's sucessor.......does this mean it should be used *instead* of vunify now?
1141943779 M * Bertl it basically replaces the vunify
1141943796 M * Bertl it's a generalization of the process
1141943831 M * lost_eps ok
1141943834 M * Bertl vunify does look at file pathes and tries to match them (i.e. find identical files)
1141943854 M * Bertl vhashify does not care about the pathes, it uses hash values and a hash store
1141943933 M * lost_eps gotcha
1141944425 M * Bertl doener_: ping?
1141944655 J * Aiken ~james@tooax6-038.dialup.optusnet.com.au
1141944721 M * Bertl morning Aiken!
1141944782 M * Aiken hi
1141944935 Q * FireEgl Read error: Connection reset by peer
1141945195 M * Aiken Bertl how do you capture data from an apparently spontanious reboot where nothing if shown on the console and nothing in the log
1141945274 M * Bertl Aiken: probably not at all ... but enabling all kind of debugging and having a serial console which records every printk is a good start
1141945329 M * Aiken I am getting no where with 2.6.16-whatever
1141945427 M * Aiken netconsole is not up to the task
1141945567 M * Bertl well, netconsole is nice, but it fails in so many cases ...
1141945590 M * Bertl get some usb serial dongle and attach it to another machine 
1141946470 M * Aiken I found enough part to make a null modem cable
1141946488 M * Aiken can serial console handle a 3 wire cable or does it want a full on null modem cable?
1141946615 M * Bertl it can, but having handshake improves reliability
1141946628 M * Bertl you know the links to the schematics I have online?
1141946672 M * Bertl http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Null-Modem/
1141946694 M * Aiken no need, just found my proper cable, don't have to make one after all
1141946702 M * Bertl even better :)
1141947015 J * phycho ~phycho@ext-gw.darktech.org.uk
1141947096 M * Bertl welcome phycho!
1141947164 J * FireEgl Atlantica@Atlantica.US
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