1141517316 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/delta-ldebug-feat01.diff
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1141517414 Q * phreak`` arion.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net
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1141517490 J * bitriot ~spk@s142-179-181-190.ab.hsia.telus.net
1141517494 J * sannes ~ace@simula-084.simula.no
1141517504 J * teukka ~tmatilai@backport.ri.fi
1141517504 J * waldi ~waldi@bblank.thinkmo.de
1141517504 T * xenon.oftc.net http://linux-vserver.org/ | latest stable 2.01, 1.2.10, 1.2.11-rc1, devel 2.1.0, exp 2.{0.2,1.1}-rc10 | util-vserver-0.30.210 | libvserver-1.0.2 & vserver-utils-1.0.3 | He who asks a question is a fool for a minute; he who doesn't ask is a fool for a lifetime -- share the gained knowledge on the wiki, and we'll forget about the minute ;) 
1141517508 J * lonewolff lonewolff@adleman.lonewolff.info
1141517512 J * lilo ~lilo@cpe-24-167-94-255.houston.res.rr.com
1141517515 J * phreak`` ~phreak``@styx.xnull.de
1141517527 J * harry ~harry@d515321D1.access.telenet.be
1141517527 J * sladen paul@starsky.19inch.net
1141517529 J * micah ~micah@69.90.134.205
1141517535 J * meebey meebey@booster.qnetp.net
1141517541 J * rick ~rick@3bier.xs4all.nl
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1141517942 J * Loki|muh loki@satanix.de
1141517993 J * micah ~micah@69.90.134.205
1141517998 J * cohan ~cohan@koniczek.de
1141518182 J * PerlLaptop ~stuart@203-206-78-108.dyn.iinet.net.au
1141518552 J * waldi ~waldi@bblank.thinkmo.de
1141518568 J * meebey meebey@booster.qnetp.net
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1141523779 J * kaen ~kaen@c-24-19-213-66.hsd1.wa.comcast.net
1141523790 M * Bertl welcome kaen!
1141523924 M * kaen quick question, "vserver myserver suexec steve /bin/bash" does not work, but "vserver myserver suexec 503 /bin/bash" does (number instead of name) if that that way it's supposed to be? or if my configuration missing some referqance to passwd?
1141523946 M * Bertl where is steve defined?
1141523964 M * Bertl on the host or inside the guest?
1141523973 M * kaen 'steve' is a user listed in the passwd file of both the host and vserver, with the same ID #
1141524004 M * Bertl sec, let me check the syntax for the command
1141524064 M * kaen I can use the user #, and that'll work for me, but I expected user name to work
1141524140 M * Bertl yup, the scripts use --uid so it will only work with the uid
1141524163 M * Bertl you might change that, but I'm not sure 'which' user will be used then
1141524260 M * kaen I suppose in the Linux/Unix world, "user id" is almost always the number, not the name specifically.
1141524291 M * Bertl yes, but I can understand why Enrico (the tool maintainer) decided to use the numeric id
1141524325 M * Bertl it's not quite clear which file should be used for name->uid conversion
1141524345 M * Bertl (file or database that is :)
1141524385 J * tam ~tam@nettam.com
1141524392 M * Bertl welcome tam!
1141524437 M * kaen I set the usernames/ID's to sync in both the vserver and the host, because file system permissions on the shared mounted drive appear to work based on the numerical ID.
1141524465 M * Bertl yes, everything is based on numerical ids
1141524486 M * Bertl the name <->uid mapping is just userspace syntactic suggar
1141524514 M * kaen I was wondering, if you had a shared mounted drive, and the host left a userid unspecified, if a root on the vserver could add/change a user id to match a host user, and get access to unintended files?
1141524569 M * Bertl depends on how the drive is shared and whether you use tagging or not
1141524602 M * kaen 'tagging' is a feature of... the kernel?, the filesystem?, vserver?
1141524618 M * Bertl the vserver part of the kernel
1141524632 M * Bertl it allows for 'context aware' files
1141524657 M * Bertl i.e. uid=1 in context 2 is different from uid=1 in context 3
1141524680 M * kaen what about linking the passwd files of the host and vserver, so that they are always synced? ... ah, that's why I turned on extended attributes for reiserfs then
1141524680 M * Bertl without tagging, they are identical
1141524983 M * kaen I guess the worst part, was that when I tried to suexec by name, it ran the process as root... If the parameter passed is not correct it should return an error or something, not run as root =)
1141525046 M * Bertl yeah, would be good, please file a bug report to savannah (you might call it a feature request if you prefer :)
1141525378 M * kaen is the savannah login thingy self-signed?, firefox gives me the 'Unable to verify as trusted' warning
1141525409 M * Bertl hum, maybe ... but I'd doubt that
1141525444 M * kaen maybe 'cause this machine is still firefox 1.0.7 =P
1141525449 Q * monrad Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1141525456 M * Bertl could be ...
1141525501 M * Bertl hmm, no, seems it is self signed
1141526450 J * mkhl mkhl@200-148-41-120.dsl.telesp.net.br
1141526486 M * Bertl wb mkhl!
1141526581 M * kaen well, rebooting to test my new scripts...
1141527147 J * rmoriz ~roland@moriz.name
1141527167 M * Bertl welcome rmoriz!
1141527176 M * rmoriz hi
1141527672 Q * kaen Read error: Connection reset by peer
1141531647 J * itamarjp ~itamar@200-233-136-115.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br
1141531657 M * itamarjp hi
1141531670 M * Bertl welcome itamarjp!
1141531717 M * itamarjp Bertl, Can you help-me to downgrade a size of a disk-image ?
1141531766 M * Bertl hmm, just remove unneeded stuff ...
1141531801 M * itamarjp but this donīt free space on host machine, only in the guest
1141531823 M * Bertl well, the guest is on some host filesystem
1141531839 M * Bertl and if you have many guests, you can also unify them
1141532241 J * matta ~matta@c-68-81-35-243.hsd1.pa.comcast.net
1141532251 M * Bertl wb matta!
1141532429 M * Bertl okay, I'm off to bed now ... have a good whatever everyone! cya tomorrow!
1141532436 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
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1141535410 J * kaen ~kaen@c-24-19-213-66.hsd1.wa.comcast.net
1141535583 M * kaen which tool do I want to look at to make the host/vservers all see each other as independant devices over ipv4? so that they can connect to each other as peers...
1141535861 M * kaen bah, using the wrong tool, nmap must work at a lower level or something
1141537865 Q * kaen Read error: Connection reset by peer
1141538014 J * kaen ~kaen@c-24-19-213-66.hsd1.wa.comcast.net
1141538102 M * kaen If I need to redirect incoming connections from a priv. port (80) to an unpriv. one (8080) would I want to run iptables within the vserver? (the vserver has it's own IP address)
1141538213 M * kaen ahh, I guess you can't run a per-vserver iptables anyway...
1141544069 Q * kaen Read error: Connection reset by peer
1141544611 J * kaen ~kaen@c-24-19-213-66.hsd1.wa.comcast.net
1141544708 M * kaen turns out my problem was I was using iptables REDIRECT target to warp ports around, instead of DNAT like I should have, REDIRECT always changes the destination IP to the primary IP address of the interface (the host)
1141544734 M * kaen ...and knowing is half the battle.
1141546377 M * Hollow kaen: you cannnor run iptables inside a vserver nor have you interfaces for each vserver, the network stack is not virtualized (yet)
1141546409 M * Hollow all networking happens on the host, and each vserver is limited to a subset of the IPs of the host
1141546741 M * kaen yep, got that figured out, iptables is running on the host (only) I was using it to redirect port 80 to port 8055
1141546862 M * kaen I was just accidently changing the destination IP to the host IP in the process
1141548947 Q * kaen Read error: Connection reset by peer
1141551919 J * bonbons ~bonbons@83.222.39.180
1141552516 J * dothebart ~willi@xdsl-213-196-243-250.netcologne.de
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1141558706 J * derjohn ~derjohn@80.69.37.19
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1141559192 J * SiD3WiNDR luser@bastard-operator.from-hell.be
1141559265 J * doener ~doener@i5387C20F.versanet.de
1141560082 J * lilalinux ~plasma@h1-gw.of.net-lab.net
1141560238 J * Dr4g ~Dr4g@82-40-43-245.cable.ubr06.uddi.blueyonder.co.uk
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1141561007 J * Agora servihoo@88.121.65.119
1141561129 M * Agora People in USA are stupid and fat! By the way, is anyone selling "USA flag" toilet paper anywhere? 
1141561141 M * Agora Here are 101 good reasons to hate USA and yanks! 
1141561147 M * Agora 'America' is equal to USA! Yeah, sure! 
1141561149 M * Agora Anti-crypt campaign 
1141561155 M * Agora Barney
1141561160 M * Agora "Bigger is better" hystery 
1141561166 M * Agora Comics Code 
1141561171 M * Agora Communist persecutions 
1141561176 M * Agora Constant trivial laughter and "wow", "yeah", "yipe" etc. 
1141561182 M * Agora Destruction of the native american culture 
1141561187 M * Agora Disney, disneylands, sissy disney tv shows and movies etc. 
1141561192 M * Agora Dollars and "you can have and do anything if you have money" 
1141561197 M * Agora 50% of yanks believe that 20% of their budget goes to developing countries! (Actually, this is true, only it's more than 20% - soldiers, depleted uranium bullets, missiles, bombs, CIA operations, propaganda, training of future terrorists, etc...) 
1141561203 M * Agora Fundamentalist christians and other religious crackpots 
1141561208 M * Agora Hollywood movies 
1141561214 M * Agora Hypocrites: they go to church because everyone else does, they don't really know anything about their stupid religion... 
1141561219 M * Agora Hysteric attitude 
1141561225 M * Agora Internet censorship 
1141561230 M * Agora Marvel comics 
1141561234 M * Agora McDonalds and other shit food chains 
1141561241 M * Agora National anthem, it's so stupid! Even russians have a much better one! 
1141561245 M * Agora Nirvana (that lousy band) 
1141561252 M * Agora Nuclear weapons 
1141561255 M * Agora O.J.Simpson "trial" 
1141561261 M * Agora PC, bill gates and micro$oft 
1141561264 M * Agora Political system with two parties; just like in the ex-Soviet Union, only worse 
1141561271 M * Agora Pollution of air, water, earth and everything 
1141561278 M * Agora Power rangers 
1141561285 M * Agora HEY MOTHER FUCKERS
1141561295 M * Agora Ragdoll and persian cats, they are sick perversions of nature, spoiled by yanks 
1141561300 M * Agora Rodeo - torturing animals 
1141561306 M * Agora I FUCK AMERICANS
1141561312 M * Agora Stupid AOL yank kids trashing the net 
1141561319 M * Agora Swimming pools everywhere - horrible waste of water and energy 
1141561326 M * Agora Their average IQ approaches their shoe size (in US units). 
1141561334 M * Agora They stick their noses in other people's business - but only if there is something to gain, like oil! World police, yeah sure! What about East Timor? 
1141561554 Q * Agora Quit: http://www.moncybersite.com Site D'entraide informatique :-)
1141561567 J * Agora agora@88.121.65.119
1141561772 A * daniel_hozac wonders what channel he stumbled in to.
1141561827 M * Wonka this is #vserver. HTH. HAND. :)
1141561964 Q * Agora Quit: http://www.moncybersite.com Site D'entraide informatique :-)
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1141562042 M * daniel_hozac it seemed like #politic-ranting.
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1141566421 M * Hollow poor minds :)
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1141566945 J * mkhl mkhl@200-148-41-120.dsl.telesp.net.br
1141567034 J * ntrs ~ntrs@68-188-37-15.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com
1141568844 J * liquid3649_ ~Viper0482@p549763C5.dip.t-dialin.net
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1141569428 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1141569433 M * Bertl morning folks!
1141569452 M * Hollow morning Bertl 
1141569607 M * bonbons morning Bertl, Hollow
1141572302 M * FaUl well - isn't /etc/inittab used on vservers?
1141572317 M * FaUl i'd just added SV:123456:respawn:/usr/local/bin/svscanboot and it won't work 
1141572616 M * bonbons FaUl: that depends on how your guest is started
1141572616 M * Hollow depends on the init style
1141572656 M * bonbons you need plain init style so that an init process is launched (and that one will use inittab)
1141574206 J * monrad ~mikkel@213083190131.sonofon.dk
1141574407 J * shedi ~siggi@inferno.lhi.is
1141574791 M * FaUl ok, works now
1141577753 M * Bertl okay, off for dinner .. back later
1141577759 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
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1141578809 J * cehteh foobar@cehteh.homeunix.org
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1141588117 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1141588125 M * Bertl back now ...
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1141597519 J * michal` ~michal@www.rsbac.org
1141599458 M * Skram Long Time not talk.
1141601011 M * Skram hello?
1141601059 M * daniel_hozac wow, 2.6.15 is getting more releases than 2.6.16-rc.
1141601203 M * michal` hey
1141601211 M * michal` i'll be a bit offtopic ;)
1141601314 M * michal` could you recomend me some nice colocation with possibility to rent server from them (please continue on priv, not on main channel, let's not go into marketing bullshit)
1141601389 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: hmm? new 2.6.15 release?
1141601417 M * Bertl indeed ...
1141601437 A * Bertl .o( good that I compiled 2.6.15.5 a few hours ago :)
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1141602435 J * marl ~matt@84.92.193.226
1141602524 M * marl hi folks, can anyone tell me if its posible to get vserver build to use a local copy of packages for debian? i want to save having to downlaod the same packages again and again
1141602805 M * daniel_hozac -m http://apt-proxy.../ ?
1141603042 M * marl so use file:////var/packages/ ?
1141603070 M * daniel_hozac i guess that might work too, if you really don't want to set up and apt-proxy.
1141603156 M * marl im currently building a server to act as an apt repo at the moment, but im making it a full i386 mirror, and its going to taek AGES to get it all LOL